Wiseling Review: Daily returns Ponzi scheme
Wiseling operates in the financial services MLM niche. The company provides a corporate address in Finland on its website.
This address is a virtual office site owned by Regus.
Heading up Wiseling are co-founders Matias Lappo and Elias Mattila. Or at least those are the names given to the actors representing them.
Matias Lappo is the admin of Wiseling’s official Facebook group. Lappo’s Facebook profile was created in November 2020 and has no content.
Lappo regularly appears in Wiseling marketing videos. These videos are staged in what are obviously rented office spaces.
Lappo has a European accent but I wasn’t able to discern the dialect (it doesn’t appear to be the usual eastern European variety).
In any event, put all of this together and Lappo presents as a strong Boris CEO candidate.
Like Lappo, Elias Mattila had a Facebook account created to promoted Wiseling through.
It was recently deleted.
Beyond the initial photoshoot for Wiseling’s website, Mattila doesn’t appear to exist.
Wiseling representing it is based out of Finland has already attracted the attention of local authorities.
On November 26th Finland’s Financial Supervisory Authority issued a Wiseling securities fraud warning.
FIN-FSA has reason to suspect that the company offers investment services in Finland without appropriate authorisation.
At the time of publication Alexa ranks Wiseling’s top sources of website traffic as South Korea (31%), Haiti (9%) and Pakistan (8%).
As always, if an MLM company is not openly upfront about who is running or owns it, think long and hard about joining and/or handing over any money.
Wiseling has no retailable products, with affiliates only able to market Wiseling affiliate membership itself.
Wiseling’s Compensation Plan
Wiseling affiliates invest USD and bitcoin on the promise of advertised returns.
USD Investment Plans
- Fiat – invest $50 or more and receive a 0.8% to 1.3% daily ROI for 16 days
- Medical Industry – invest $500 or more and receive a 2.7% daily ROI for 180 days
- Forex – invest $3000 or more and receive a 1.1% to 1.6% daily ROI for 24 days
- Stock Market – invest $15,000 or more and receive a 1.3% to 1.8% daily ROI for 30 days
- Commodity Exchanges – invest $50,000 or more and receive a 1.5% to 2% daily ROI for 36 days
- IT Industry – invest $50,000 or more and receive a 3% daily ROI for 200 days
- Futures Market – invest $150,000 or more and receive a 1.8% to 2.4% daily ROI for 42 days
Note that the plan names are just that, names. They have nothing to do with investment activity or any relation to how return revenue is generated.
Bitcoin Investment Plans
- White – invest 0.01 BTC or more and receive a 2% daily ROI for 100 days
- Red – invest 5 BTC or more and receive a 2.4% daily ROI for 100 days
- Black – invest 15 BTC or more and receive a 2.7% daily ROI for 100 days
Wiseling pays referral commissions via a unilevel compensation structure.
A unilevel compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a unilevel team, with every personally recruited affiliate placed directly under them (level 1):
If any level 1 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 2 of the original affiliate’s unilevel team.
If any level 2 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 3 and so on and so forth down a theoretical infinite number of levels.
Referral commissions are paid as a percentage of funds invested based on the following qualification criteria:
- Status 1 – sign up and invest and receive a 4% referral commission rate
- Status 2 – generate $2000 in downline investment volume and receive a 6% referral commission rate
- Status 3 – generate $15,000 in downline investment volume and receive an 8% referral commission rate
- Status 4 – generate $60,000 in downline investment volume and receive a 10% referral commission rate
- Status 5 – generate $300,000 in downline investment volume and receive a 12% referral commission rate
- Status 6 – generate $750,000 in downline investment volume and receive a 14% referral commission rate
- Status 7 – generate $1,500,000 in downline investment volume and receive a 16% referral commission rate
- Status 8 – generate $4,000,000 in downline investment volume and receive an 18% referral commission rate
- Status 9 – generate $15,000,000 in downline investment volume and receive a 20% referral commission rate
- Status 10 – generate $30,000,000 in downline investment volume and receive a 22% referral commission rate
- Status 11 – generate $60,000,000 in downline investment volume and receive a 24% referral commission rate
- Status 12 – generate $100,000,000 in downline investment volume and receive a 27% referral commission rate
Referral commission rates are coded, meaning a maximum of 27% is paid out on all Wiseling investment.
This works by paying the referring affiliate (the affiliate who recruited the affiliate investing), the referral commission that corresponds with their rank.
E.g. If the referring affiliate was Status 7, they receive their 16% referral commission rate.
This leaves 11% still to be paid out (27% – 16%).
The system searches upline across the unilevel team for the first Status 8 or higher ranked affiliate.
Once found, they receive their referral commission percentage, minus the percentage already paid out).
E.g. if the next highest ranked affiliate paid out was Status 10, they’d receive 6% (22% minus 16%), leaving 5% still to be paid out.
This process continues until a Status 12 affiliate is found, which closes referral commissions on that investment (i.e. the full 27% referral commission is then paid out).
Note that if the referring affiliate is Status 12, they receive the full 27% referral commission and nothing is passed up.
Wiseling affiliate membership is free.
Wiseling is your typical MLM Ponzi scheme.
The company represents involvement in “fiat currency, cryptocurrency and industrial assets”, but provides no verifiable proof.
Instead Wiseling affiliates are fed fictional generated returns on social media:
Being a passive investment opportunity, Wiseling’s MLM opportunity constitutes a securities offering.
Wiseling is not registered to offer securities in any jurisdiction. Therefore at a minimum, Wiseling is engaged in securities fraud.
The referral commissions Wiseling pays out are tied to recruitment, adding an additional pyramid layer to the scheme.
As with all MLM Ponzi schemes, once affiliate recruitment runs dry so too will new investment.
This will starve Wiseling of ROI revenue, eventually prompting a collapse.
The math behind Ponzi schemes guarantees that when they collapse, the majority of participants lose money.
Update 22nd February 2021 – Following withdrawals stopping on February 15th and now its website going down, BehindMLM has called Wiseling’s collapse.
Update 26th February 2021 – Wiseling has deleted its YouTube channel. As such I’ve remove the previously linked marketing video in this article.
I must have had 10-20 requests to review Wiseling over the past few months.
Their referral commissions page on their website details single-level commissions, so I marked Wiseling as non-MLM.
Buried in the FAQ section of their website however is details on the coded nature of the commissions. I wasn’t aware of until a reader emailed in and insisted Wiseling was MLM.
Apologies over the timeliness of this review.
Listening this “Matias Lappo” speaking(youtube.com/watch?v=cs2-Tsk7pUg), there is no way he is a Finnish native.
For a person supposedly born and raised in Helsinki, he doesn’t have even remotely Finnish accent (or Swedish which the other native language for Finns).
What is even more telling, he doesn’t pronounce his “own” name like a Finnish speaker would, and butchers “hyvää päivää” like a person who has just hastily learned some Finnish phrases for a tourist trip.
In this video (youtube.com/watch?v=eO-DuE1gNAU) “Mr Matias Lappo” even introduces himself as something that sounds like “Lapin Martez”. Yeah, close enough. 😀
At the 0:14 timemark of the video, a certificate given to the company is briefly and partly shown, and you can see that it has CEO’s surname “Stewart” on it.
Here (youtu.be/NFK0RiNTddw?t=94) “Mr Lappo” intoduces what looks like the “Elias Mattila” guy as “Ales”.
Judging by his speech (and looks), no chance that Ales/Elias is a Finnish native either.
The cringe/awkwardness factor in the Wiseling videos is very strong. Pretty low-effort, low-quality scam.
The scam does seem to have some real connections to Finland though.
Wrede & co Oy is a local law firm that provides services for these criminals. Wiseling Oy is a limited liability company formed in mid 2020.
It’s a shell company because the business registry info shows that its not in employer register and “prepayment register” which practically means that it doesn’t have any employees — bear in mind that Mr, “Lappo” claims tht the company has hundreds of employees.
The only principal given is a board of directors member Ville Santeri Varis — probably some local alcholic paid to be as the nominee.
No CEO registered which is a major red flag. (asiakastieto.fi/yritykset/fi/wiseling-oy/31387607/yleiskuva)
The app info on Google Play (play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wiseling.app) says that the company addess is
which is an old apartment building in Lauttasaari, Helsinki.
Incredible that there are people stupid enough to give money to these lousy scammers.
I can confirm what Semjon said. The ‘finnish’ ceo can’t pronounce his name correctly and not even consistently, and says the common hello like an immigrant who just had the first finnish language course.
This was pretty funny. Thanks for the Friday night laughs! 😀
Wiseling Ponzi live:
Looks to be mostly Asian and African investors. Few European looking types too.
The Wiseling scammers claim that the investments are insuranced, and as a proof for it have circulated this photo of “certificate of liability insurance” given to Wiseling Oy by “Parker and Lawson Group” — for no less than $500 000 000.
You can see a copy of it here: nairaland.com/6234818/online-trusted-legit-site-daily
To buttress the credibility of that document, they went all the trouble to create a shell company in Britain(opencorporates.com/companies/gb/12706525 and/or opencorporates.com/companies/gb/12697380) and a website for it: parker-lawson.com
It’s funny that the “Parker & Lawson” companies are incorporated in late June 2020, but the insurance certificate they claim to have given to Wiseling Oy is dated 1st of June — so before the comany even existed. Another major screwup for these really lousy scammers.
But the good thing about the “Parker&Lawson” charade is that it may give hints about who are really behind Wiseling.
The parker-lawson domain is hosted on same ip as “gamestech.io” was, see: domainbigdata.com/220.127.116.11
Gamestech.io (web.archive.org/web/20200501131143/https://gamestech.io/) was a short-lived gambling based Ponzi with somwehat similair MO , see:
So after Gamestech failed, these same scammers set up a a new one with Wiseling.
PS. in the very beginning of this video (youtube.com/watch?v=ThQibgNqLsU), “Matias Lappo” may have accidentally revelead his real origins which is Italy (or Romania) — see his “stupid me, why did I almost expose myself” -reaction after greeting in Italian.
Wiseling contact page (wiseling.com/contacts) says its address is Itäkatu 1-5 3rd and 4th Floor, 00930 Helsinki, Finland.
This is the address of Office Hotel service Regus: regus.fi/workspace/finland/helsinki/helsinki-itis
Wiseling Oy has its postal address at c/o Wrede & Co Oy which is a law firm, it’s clear they don’t have any permanent office in Finland.
Data from “Finder” reveals that Wiseling Oy has 1-4 person personnel, far from the 300 what mr. “Lappo” claims.
Finder lists 2 people in the board of directors:
Ville Santeri Varis, member of the board
Melina Eva Antonia Bröckl, reserve member of the board.
Melina is a 27 years old woman from Finland who has studied in Sweden, and at least according to her FB still lives in Sweden. She has an active public finnish phone number though.
Anyway, seems like a stooge..
“Mr Lappo” claims here that he was born in Helsinki Finland, grew up there, and has 2 degrees from University.
Laughing my as* off!!! 😀
If this guy was born and grew up in Helsinki, I’m the king of Finland. 😀 😀
Don’t know if this means anything, but noticed when “Mr Lappo” was giving an 1 on 1 interview, suddenly “Wiseling Support” becomes audible accidentally and starts speaking russian in the middle of the interview.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this support was there to listen and giving real time instructions to “Mr Lappo” how to answer the questions.
Nice catch lol. Russians at it again.
You can see the moment the actor shits himself and completely loses his train of thought till he’s rescued.
At least they’re spending more on actors with less Russian sounding accents I guess.
Yeah, russians were behind Gamestech.io and seems this one as well.
Google’s cache still shows “parker-lawson” when you check gamestech.io from it: webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://gamestech.io
And Parker&Lawson provides the fake “certificate” for the Wiseling as Semjon pointed out in message #5.
Russian scammers just about confirmed..
Hey Lappo, do some finnish language video, I wanna hear.. 😀
This fake Lappo, my guess is from Denmark or Latvia.. As Latvian he would speak and understand russian fluently.
Wiseling is a fraud investment company. I was unable to withdraw my money back.
It says they have 24/7 hour chat line, yet they never reply to any requests when attempting to withdraw your money.
Be aware and be careful please. I am not trying to promote any company or my own company, just giving everyone a warning if they want to invest with wiseling.
Jen, ANY company or individual offering a daily return is running a scam. Do not be deceived by fancy videos or slick websites. Just stay away.
The same is true of weekly and monthly payouts, particularly if they exceed what banks are offering several-fold.
You learned a hard lesson about scammers. Believe me, there are a lot more of them out there. Be smart. Keep your wallet firmly shut.
Hi, I’d like to make one correction. That specific person nominated as board member is not a local alcoholic, but just a victim of identity fraud. Sincerely, that specific person. 🙂
Well, I’m not a teetotaler either but I think you got the point.
I had absolutely no idea of this before person from Helsinki Police Department contacted me and asked if I’m aware of this and needless to say, I wasn’t.
I made a claim for correction and now my name has removed from the Trade Register.
tl;dr: It IS a scam and apparently you can be a victim of this even you didn’t invest any money.
Petteri Järvinen notified me that Santeri Varis also Tweeted about his identity being stolen and used in this Wiseling scam:
I’d guess it’s very likely the same kind of identity theft happened to the “reserve member of the board” Melina Bröckl. I notified her via Whatsapp but she didn’t answer yet.
Anyway, can somebody get this Mr. “Lappo” CEO fraud person arrested already..
Santeri Varis is a non-alcoholic hard working engineer whose identity was stolen somehow for this.
He received a call from Finnish police asking about his relations with this company.
A new investigative article about Wiseling confirms that Melina Bröckl’s identity was also stolen:
As the article corraborates, everything about Wiseling seems to be brazen fraud.
So we going with Russians pretending to be Finns? Dubai, Ukraine etc. etc.
Hi Jen, in order to withdraw your profits from Wiseling, you need to have a crypto wallet such as wirex (only use a top reliable crypto wallet).
On the wiseling website, you need to enter the correct external crypto wallet address under settings – wallet, then you need to save this, and enter your financial password.
Then go to Finances – withdrawal, and withdraw your money.
This is beyond hilarious. Now the fraud actor fake finnish scam CEO mr. ‘Matias Lappo’ announces that they have created contract with Central Bank of Finland and EU, regarding their new Visa and Mastercard connections. 😀
Jesus Christ this whole announcement is like from a comedy show. LMAO!
Finland’s authorities: Wiseling is committing securities fraud and is illegal.
Also Finland’s authorities: Hay guyz, our central bank just signed a contract with Wiseling!
Really testing the gullibility of bottom of the barrel South Korean Ponzi investors here…
Yeah let’s see what happens when the Wiseling ponzi investor idiots give their full credit card details to these scammers..
Pretty sure there will be money withdrawal to a bank account all right, but not that way what the ponzi investors are hoping for. 😀
Wiseling scam CEO interview with the dumb and dumber team on February 15.
So these are the types of people swallowing Wiseling’s marketing BS.
Say no more, say no more.
^ Michael Lucas, the other team leader of this Dumb and Dumber -team says in the comments when people ask is the company reliable: “I have 259k in Wiseling is that trust?”
LOL! This team lead even looks like the older version from the Jim Carrey movie.. 😀
I made a critical comment there yesterday, but of course it was removed.
And of course the members are already complaining about withdrawal problems.
I can kinda understand that some people were fooled by Onecoin, but to be fooled by this BS Wiseling and trusting this complete fake-finnish fraud actor, who first appeared in the Internet in 2020. That’s beyond all levels of stupidity.
The obese idiot on the right in that video (Mike Lucas) is such an enthusiastic promoter of one SCAM after another that I started a thread on him in 2018 at Realscam:
I have a friend who wants to put 10,000USD in Wiseling to take advantage of the 5% daily return. Jeeeee I guess people that stupid actually do existed.
Amoz_N_Andy thank you for you kind and honest words.
Invest – I wasn’t asking you for feedback regarding how to withdraw money from wiseling. So please stop promoting this scam and be an honest person.
Heh, Michael Lucas has now made this video interview private…
Wiseling withdrawals have been disabled since Feb 15th. Ready to call an exit-scam when the “we signed a contract with Bank of Finland” lie goes nowhere.
Jen, your friend is being taken in by the BIG LIE. It’s when a claim is so outlandish that it’s hard for the victim to believe there isn’t some truth to it. 5% a DAY? A deal with the Central Bank? They couldn’t say that if it wasn’t true, right? Sure they could.
Even if your friend did come out ahead (haha!), it would be money stolen from someone else. That’s how Ponzi scams work.
The other way they work is what you’ve experienced: your “earnings” are just numbers on a screen. When you try to actually withdraw them, strange problems crop up.
The request says “pending” for days or weeks. Or they ask for more proof of identity (phony KYC – know your customer). Or fees. Or demand you recruit someone else to “qualify” for payment.
Or they skip the delaying tactics and just disappear altogether.
And thank you for your kind words, Jen.
There is now a picture of Matias Lappo’s Finnish passport circulating, see:
This is a rather well made forgery, but it’s obviously a forgery because:
– No 10 year passports have been granted in Finland since 2006. (is.fi/matkat/art-2000001129856.html) . The maximum is currently 5 years.
– The look of the passport doesn’t match the ones granted in 2017. The passport should look the one pictured in this article: mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/kuvat-talta-nayttaa-suomen-uusi-passi-lapin-luonto-kuvittaa-sivuja/6168336
Instead, the passport looks like the 2006-2012 version of Finnish passport, see the pic: tekniikkatalous.fi/uutiset/pidatko-kasissasi-maailman-vahvinta-passia-suomen-passi-on-kayttokelpoisimpia/02f45979-dabc-385b-b299-22aabe8c01af)
To add icing on the cake, a commentator in Petteri Järvinen’s blog claims to have made inquiry to Finnish Digital and Population Data Services Agency to check if a person named “Matias Lappo” exists, and they replied that no such person exists:
The good news is that law enforcement can probably use the passport picture to find out who this “Matias Lappo” really is. The passport they used for the forgery can also give clues which organized crime group is behind the fraud.
This passport charade is probably their response to the fake-Finn allegations.
It’s amusing how scams like OneCoin and Wiseling etc. can “leak” passport documents of their CEOs/founders.
Registering with regulators and getting an audit to operate legally? Ohhhh noooooo!
Apparently withdrawals are being turned on on Monday. If not I’m calling Wiseling’s collapse (withdrawals stopped Feb 15th).
Heh, Wiseling official Youtube channel disappeared…
Here seems to be a screen capture of Wiseling Telegram group where “Matias Lappo” says they are limited to Telegram now due to the new SEC regulations to which Wiseling is trying to adjust.. 😀
Calling it now then, Wiseling has collapsed. There are no new SEC regulations.
Trying to finish this Lyoness review then sleep. Will get to it first thing in the morning.
“wiseling.com” is now down too. They pulled the plug.
Lol. Guess it’s going to be a late night for me 😀
Instagram, Facebook, Youtube, website gone.
I guess it’s fair to call that a collapse.
The passport picture is exactly that. A picture of a passport. Using Photoshop, I can become the citizen of any country within half an hour or so. These images are all over the internet and I don’t see much of a lead there.
Finnish police is likely treating this as mereley a case of identity theft and thus have little incentive to do anything.
Not that it makes any difference anymore, but the finnish personal ID number in the fake Matias Lappo passport is also invalid: 110783-237A
The last figure, the so called check figure “A” is invalid, so it’s not a valid ID. How surprising. With a little more effort they could have had that correct, but I guess they didn’t bother.
Does anyone have any info on why wiseling shut down there website and all social media, apparently they are telling affiliates that due to new sec regulation they have to take down social media while they Are adjusting to new regulation.
Firstly what does the US SEC have to do with the regulatory body in findland??
Because it’s a Ponzi scheme. Read the review.
There is no new regulation. The Securities and Exchange Act has been around since 1933.
Nothing. Wiseling also has nothing to do with Finland. You’re being Ponzi finessed.
Wiseling is back darling.
Thanks. Bet your money isn’t though!
edit: Nope. Still 521 error here.
Confirmed. 521 in US also.
Edit: Trustpilot is awash in complaints that the website is down also. Looks pretty worldwide to me (lots of broken-English posts from other countries).
Listen Please Investors. Wiseling CEO Matias Lappo and Vice Chairman Elias Mattilla. Are Major Frauds. They Are Just Clones Of Impersonation.
This is Major Scam. They Took over 92,570 Investors For Hundred of Millions Of Dolllars. A Well Orchestrated Scam.
Here is The Problem: Mike Lucas and Mike McDonald are in the United States. They were Paid Off by Matias Lappo and Elias Mattilla to Allure Investors.
These Individuals Reside in the United States and are in other Scams that they Promote with a Series 8 License. It’s Fraud. Sure under A Fake MLM License.
They continue to Invest in Companies like Quibtech and Beurax. The Deal is these Fake Online companies hire these so called MLM Leaders Selling a Security without A License.
These Promoters such as Mike Lucas and Mike McDonald. They Just Rip Out the Referral Money. They Never Invest into the Scam. They just Allure Investors with Online
Just MLM Recruiting PImps alluring Investors To Get Slaughtered. It’s a Way of Life.
Please People go to Law of The United States And Interpol. It’s Sickening. Just a Nest Of Crooks. They out there to Scam Everyone.
Any Wiseling investor must report Wiseling to their local police authorities as well as reporting to the FBI. These scammers will be caught.
Unfortunately most authorities, if they investigate at all, are going to follow Wiseling’s trail to Russia and then give up.