Wiseling collapses, withdrawals stopped a week ago
On February 15th Wiseling stopped honoring affiliate withdrawal requests.
Rather than immediately report on Wiseling’s collapse, I thought I’l let this one play out for a bit.
The day after Wiseling stopped paying withdrawals, the actor playing CEO Matias Lappo announced a 20% bonus on new investment.
This alone set off alarm bells, but of course by then it was too late.
The announcement promised withdrawal functionality would return within 72 hours – which put us roughly at February 19th.
On February 18th Wiseling support sent out a message informing affiliates that the planned February 19th withdrawal date was still on track.
February 19th came and went and still Wiseling withdrawals remained disabled.
On Telegram it was then announced that withdrawals would now resume on Monday.
Cue Sunday night, and instead of re-enabling withdrawals Wiseling took its website offline and deleted its YouTube channel.
Wiseling’s official Facebook account was disabled around the time withdrawals stopped.
As I write this Wiseling’s official Twitter account and Telegram channel is still up.
Wiseling taking their website offline coincides with a message a few hours ago, hinting at a “blame the regulators” exit-scam.
Bearing in mind this is just before Wiseling deleted its Telegram account;
We are only limited to Telegram for now. Due to the ongoing issues.
All these are parts of the new SEC regulations we are currently trying to adjust to. Stay calm.
I can categorically state there have been no new SEC regulations to speak of.
As per our published January 2021 review, Wiseling is a Ponzi scheme. And Ponzi schemes are illegal the world over under current regulations (typically wire and securities fraud).
So what’s actually happened between now and February 15th?
Wiseling collapsed on February 15th. Starting with the nonsensical claim they’d signed a contract with the Central Bank of Finland, they’ve been feeding their affiliate investors baloney.
Because on the backend they’re creating as much distance between stolen funds and their investors as they can.
That’s all this is.
Wiseling is believed to be run by Russians/Ukrainians and/or scammers in South-east Asia.
Wherever they’re operating from, the scammers behind Wiseling have followed a pretty typical Boris CEO marketing plan.
That is, hire some schmuck to play CEO, put out a few videos and watch the money roll in.
Alexa traffic analysis reveals Wiseling website traffic flatlined around mid-December, which for a Ponzi scheme is the beginning of the end.
Based on Alexa’s traffic estimates, Wiseling’s victims are primarily from South Korea, the US and Pakistan.
Imagine investing in Wiseling and having to watch BTC go from $48,900 on February 15th to $57,400 today.
@Oz, I can still see “Wiseling Chat Official” -Telegram channel. It has over 15300 members.
Their Youtube channel is gone though.
Is the account(s) they were communicating through gone though?
Matias Lappo and Elias Mattila are the admins here, and this is still up.
I’m not sure if there’s another official channel.
I saw an affiliate complaining the Telegram was down on TrustPilot.
Their both Telegram channels are still up atm when I’m writing this. So that part of your article is incorrect, but I’d suspect it becomes correct quite soon.. 😀
I’ll leave it till I wake up. If it’s still up I’ll put in an edit.
Unfortunately, this has happened.
Almost hurts to watch, but here is a sucker making almost 12 BTC ($580 000+) investment to Wiseling on February 16th:
You can see at the end of the video that this person had made several big invstments even before that deposit.
Here are the latest screenshots from both official Telegram groups, so those are definitely still up as writing this.
If we accept it is ponzi, and adapt our expectations and make good investment plan, during 7 months of Wiseling there was nice chance for nice profit.
The hilarity continues. Matias Lappo’s Finnish passport was proved to be fake (–> https://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/wiseling-review-daily-returns-ponzi-scheme/#comment-434451), and now discovered that there is also a picture of his Finnish ID card circulating:
The lousy scammers didn’t even bother (or understand) to make his national identification number match with the one in his passport (110783-123K vs 110783-237A).
And both are invalid as genuine Finnish natioanal identification numbers anyway.
So is our money gone.
On Telegram this official announcement was just released. They apparently need a few more days more.. 😀
Your money was gone the second you handed it over.
Putting aside there’s no “new SEC regulations”, the problem is:
Has nothing to do with securities law. You can’t legalize a Ponzi scheme after the fact.
Ah, so this is why these fake identity documents are surfacing:
It’s all bullshit but wonder if Facebook are clued in enough to call it.
Please can anybody provide the telegram link,I don’t care if they are Ukraine or Russians all i want is my hard earned money and that of my team. it’s 3:54 am here and I can’t even close my eyes.
if they had good intentions why not communicate this distruptions in service to the leaders so it will be communicated to the members??
Your money is gone. A Telegram link isn’t getting it back.
The only intentions Ponzi scammers have is to steal your money. Sorry for your loss.
@Samie check message #6 above. There are the 2 Telegram channels listed.
There is a fb group “wiseling & online capital investors group” with some info including a passport pic for Mattias Loppo…. also some bs of wiseling coming back with new server…
Many posts not in english but worth a look…
The official telegram accounts have been deleted and then quickly taken over by scammers. The announcement channel is created on the 16th of February.
The new “CEO” and CFO account as well. The official support person has deleted their account, and theres already a new one trying to gain some profit over already hurted ppl.
This one was run by a very organized, experienced group of scammers. Reminiscent of Cashbery. Definitely of Russian/Ukrainian origin.
With all the conferences and webinars, Matias Lappo can easily be arrested and charged to court wherever he runs to.
He had done a lot of harm to people.The FBI should be involved in this!
New Wiseling related press release published by FIN-FSA:
In addtion, Bank of Finland’s head of communications tweered this:
Lets cross our fingers and hope wiseling is straight on its words to update the website and continue biz in a few days.
There’s a huge panic in the Wiseling Telegram groups. Desperate Wiseling members are contacting the finnish police, their local Finland embassies, Fin-FSA, even the Bank of Finland.
Here’s one email reply from the finnish police circulating in the groups:
Also directly tweeted from the official Twitter account of the Bank of Finland:
And a press release:
Why, so they can steal more of your money? Don’t be a sap. If they “continue,” it will only be to try to squeeze more money from you and other victims.
They’ll promise to reactivate your account for a fee or something similar. Don’t fall for it; they’re scammers.
They stole my money promising 20%. Stole all my money.
I got scammed the money of about $9,000.00 blame myself for falling to scammers. I am so sad it hurts.
I think I am going to contact CBC and let others learn from this.
I can not see anything.
Somebody reacted very quickly …
Michael Lucas from the Dumb and Dumber team made an announcement in his Telegram group..
Very short video [1:18] from February 21, 2021
Heh, not surprising what kind of people are still defending Wiseling in Telegram. While most Wiseling members have started to accept the reality, 1 OneCoin scammer who obviously also promoted Wiseling wasn’t happy that people linked news from Finland..
A croatian OneCoin scammer Alen Krizman was busy still defending Wiseling in Telegram while at the same time running his Telegram group “OneCoin Talk”, although nobody is talking in his “OneCoin Talk” Telegram group anymore. Seems he disabled the chat due to too much critique..
This Alen Krizman is truely a next level idiot..
I needed a sleep-in after last night. Catching up on Wiseling now, give me a bit.
The fraud actor “Lappo” appeared about an hour ago when writing this at the official Wiseling Telegram channel to answer some questions and calm members down.
The answers are just jaw dropping in their arrogance really..
At the same time the scammers seem to be dispersing the members’ cryptoassets.
Here’s allegedly one of the Wiseling main addresses being emptied:
The fraud actor’s excuses seemed to work for some, but definitely not for all members.
He probably is a bit nervous as members are really furious and want to find him, and it’s expected Europol/Interpol will be looking into this too.
According to Petteri Järvinen, members have also appeared at the lounge of the Regus hotel office in Helsinki, looking for the Wiseling office, in vain of course.
^ ERC-20 Token Transfer Events of the address in question shows better what happened.
I kinda figured Wiseling’s Boris CEO had done a runner. The written Telegram messages were too different.
This confirms it:
Whoever is running the Telegram accounts is tied to Wiseling’s owners (if not the admin owner themselves).
Petteri Järvinen visited the Wiseling “office” address, the Regus office hotel. Of course nothing there.
Helsinki Police in Finland has officially started to investigate Wiseling:
Wiseling scammers filmed their office videos in Saint Petersburg Russia in Smartcorner.ru premises which offers “Coworking space in the center of St. Petersburg”.
^ Filming in St. Petersburg Russia, while claiming they were in an office in Finland, by the way.. 😀
I saw the new police statement but wasn’t going to report on it because it was a rehash.
Who figured out the Russian office location?? That combined with the “no links to Finland, and there are presumably no Finnish citizens related to this company” is worth documenting.
Given the amount of organized Boris CEO videos we see, has to be an organized crime syndicate targeting crypto. There’s just too many all using the same formula.
I bumped to the russian location on Telegram Wiseling chat (not in the official groups). Some russian Wiseling member posted the smartcorner.ru connection.
Kudos to them for doing the homework. Good to see Russians pulling their weight instead of just doing the scamming.
I take it English isn’t widespread or they’d be active here 🙁
what do we do now to recover our money back?
Jump on a plane to St. Petersburg and start door-knocking?
Ponzi schemes are a one-way street. You don’t get your money back. Sorry for your loss.
Wiseling-search in google shows image of their previous “address” in Helsinki, also comments from farsi-writing “investors”.
Wiseling only ever had addresses in Finland on paper. It is run by Russian scammers, likely from St. Petersburg.
Wiseling send a communication saying they are back. Changed the website (Ozedit: removed) and to set up an account and migrate the previous investment, you need to deposit 250S.
This seems like the perfect finish line for a on going big scheme! What do you think? Thanks
That’s a classic reload scam.
If it came from a previously used Wiseling communication channel it means they’ve sold your data to other scammers.
Added this comment to some Youtube videos.
Some facts: Wiseling registered in Finland: YES.
Wiseling hq is in Finland: NO.
Wiseling has a deal of Visa& Mastercard with Bank of Finland: NO.
Matias Lappo is a finn: NO, there’s no person of that name in Finland.
His videos of Wiseling hq were filmed in Russia: YES.
Wiseling is a scam: YES.
Investors have lost their money: YES.
Police is investigating Wiseling as fraud in Finland: YES.
Thats what known as the recovery scam where you get sold/handed to vultures to extract anything else they can.
Any updated news about Wiseling? Is there a class action lawsuit that we can join? Please let me know. Thank You!
No update. Your money is safe in Russia.
Re. class-action, who are you going to sue? You gave bitcoin to randoms over the internet.
There is no recovery. Sorry for your loss.