Paycation Review: Another Traverus MLM reboot?
Paycation appear to have launched in early 2014 and are based out of the US state of Texas.
The company claims on its website that it
works with Xstream Travel to provide members professional training to become a Referral Travel Consultant or a Certified Travel Consultant. Xstream Travel is a 12 year old licensed and bonded travel agency.
Listed as CEO of Paycation on their website is David Manning. Manning (right) first popped up on BehindMLM’s radar as the CEO of Xstream Travel and Traverus.
Traverus have a reputation for supplying travel services to a number of recruitment driven MLM schemes, with The Vacation Network being the one that first brought Manning to our attention.
Launched by former Traverus executive Richard Vincenti and marketed as ‘a one time investment of $150.00 and $12.00 per month to qualify you to earn commissions‘, sometime between now and March 2012 the Vacation Network seems to have collapsed.
Read on for a full review of the Paycation MLM business opportunity.
The Paycation Product Line
Paycation themselves don’t have any products, retailable or otherwise. The company are themselves an affiliate of a “group of travel partners”, with affiliates of Paycation only able to market membership to the company itself (which provides access to these third-party travel partners).
The Paycation Compensation Plan
The Paycation compensation plan largely revolves around the recruitment of new affiliates. Travel commissions are available but are mostly dwarfed by the affiliate recruitment components and associated commissions.
Paycation Affiliate Membership Ranks
There are five affiliate membership ranks within the Paycation compensation plan. Along with their respective qualification criteria, they are as follows:
- Executive – must have purchased Referral or Certified Travel Consultant affiliate membership and have recruited at least three Referral or Certified Travel Consultant affiliates – recruit at least six affiliates (three or more of which must be Referral Travel Consultants or higher)
- Regional Executive – recruit six affiliates (at least three of which must be Referral Travel Consultants or higher)
- National Executive – recruit ten affiliates (at least six of which must be Referral Travel Consultants or higher)
- International Executive – recruit fifteen affiliates (at least three of which must be National Executives in three separate unilevel legs)
- Presidential Executive – recruit twenty affiliates (at least three of which must be International Executives in three separate unilevel legs)
Travel Commissions
When Paycation customers or affiliates book trave services through third-party companies they are affiliated with, Paycation receives an affiliate commission.
Referral Travel Consultants receive 65% of this commission. Certified Travel Consultants receive 75%.
Note that no commissions are paid on airfare only bookings.
Recruitment Commissions
Paycation affiliates earn recruitment commissions when they recruit new affiliates into the business. How much of a commission is earnt depends on how much the newly recruited affiliate pays in membership fees.
A $10 commission is paid on the recruitment of an Independent Affiliate ($30) and $25 on the recruitment of a Referral Travel Consultant ($99.95) or Certified Travel Consultant ($199.95).
A $10 commission is also paid out on the acquisition of customers, with a customer account costing $39.95 upfront and then $29.95 a month.
Coded Bonus
The Coded Bonus is only available to Referral and Certified Travel Consultants.
It pays out $10 on the recruitment of new affiliates after the first two. If any of these affiliates go on to recruit new affiliates of their own, their first two recruited affiliates are “coded” to the affiliate who recruited them (along with the $10 commission).
This continues down an unlimited number of recruitment levels, always coding the first two recruited affiliates and $10 Coded Bonus to the original recruiter.
Coded Bonus Match
The Coded Bonus Match pays out a 150% match ($15) on all Coded Bonuses paid out to a Paycation affiliate’s first two recruited Referral or Certified Travel Consultants.
After the first two, a 100% Coded Bonus Match is paid on all Coded Bonuses paid out on subsequently recruited Referral or Certified Travel Consultants.
Unilevel Commissions
The first type of residual commissions in Paycation are paid out using a unilevel compensation structure.
A unilevel compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a unilevel team, and places every personally recruited affiliate directly under them (level 1).
If any of the level 1 affiliates go on to recruit new affiliates of their own, they are placed on level 2 of the original affiliate’s unilevel team. If any level 2 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 3 and so on and so forth down a theoretically infinite number of levels.
Paycation pay out a flatrate 8% commission on membership fees paid by recruited affiliates in a unilevel team, paid out down an infinite number of recruitment levels.
Matching Unilevel Bonus
A matching bonus is available to all Referral and Certified Travel Consultants, paying out a 100% match on all unilevel commissions paid out to personally recruited Referral or Certified Travel Consultants.
Matrix Commissions
The second type of residual commissions paid out in Paycation use a 3×7 matrix compensation structure.
A 3×7 matrix places an affiliate at the top of a matrix, with three positions directly under them (level 1):
Each of these three level 1 positions branch out into another three positions (level 2) and so on and so forth down a total of seven levels (29,523 positions).
Matrix positions are filled via the direct or indirect recruitment of new affiliates, with each filled position generating a monthly commission.
How much of a commission is paid out depends on what level of the matrix a filled position falls on:
- Level 1 – $2
- Level 2 – $6
- Levels 3 and 4 – $2
- Levels 5 to 7 – $8
Paycation affiliates must also qualify to earn commissions on all seven matrix levels, as per the following qualification criteria:
- recruit at least one Referral or Certified Travel Consultant – unlock levels 1 to 4
- recruit at least three affiliates (any rank) to unlock level 5
- recruit at least six affiliates (any rank) to unlock level 6
- recruit at least ten affiliates (any rank) to unlock level 7
Note that once a Paycation affiliate qualifies for commissions on level 6, they also receive a 10% matching bonus on matrix commissions earnt by their personally recruited affiliates (min $30 commission must be paid out to trigger the bonus).
Business Builders Bonus
The Business Builders Bonus is only available to National ranked affiliates or above, and kicks in after a Paycation affiliate has recruited seven affiliates.
The bonus pays out an additional 5% on the sales volume generated by an affiliates eight and onwards personally recruited Referral and Certified Travel Consultant affiliates.
Lifestyle Bonus
Under the Lifestyle Bonus, International Executives receive a $600 a month cash bonus. International Executives receive $1000 a month.
Joining Paycation
Affiliate membership with Paycation is available in one of three options:
- Basic affiliate membership (Independent Affiliate) is $29.95 a month
- Referral Travel Consultant affiliate membership is $99.95 and then $59.95 a month
- Certified Travel Consultant affiliate membership is $199.95 and then $59.95 a month
How much an affiliate pays in affiliate membership fees has a direct impact on commission eligibility and payouts through the Paycation compensation plan.
Conclusion
Whereas it’s nice to see travel commissions Paycation make through their affiliate agreements shared with their affiliates, unfortunately it’s quite obvious that most, if not all, of the revenue generated by the company is going to be sourced from affiliates.
At $39.95 and then $29.95 a month, I think it’s safe to assume retail activity will be minimal to non-existent within the company.
Further supporting this is the fact that nearly all of the commissions and bonuses paid out in Paycation’s compensation plan revolve around affiliate recruitment and payment of monthly affiliate fees.
How much an affiliate pays in fees directly affects many of their commission payouts and where they don’t, affiliate recruitment quotas apply. In this sense Paycation is no different to the scores of collapsed MLM travel-niche pyramid schemes that have come before it.
The $10 – $25 commissions on the recruitment of new affiliates alone drag Paycation squarely into pyramid scheme territory.
With Traverus services many of these opportunities over the years, I suppose it should come as no surprise that CEO David Manning himself is now launching his own travel-niche opportunities.
There’s clearly an emphasis on signing up as a Referral or Certified Travel Consultant (paying more in affiliate fees), and then recruiting others who do the same.
As with all recruitment-driven schemes, once those at the bottom cannot find anybody to recruit they will stop paying their monthly membership fees. This means those above them stop getting paid and then they too stop paying their fees.
This effect trickles up the company over time until it triggers an irreversible company-wide collapse.
To whom this may concern… It has been brought to my attention that my name was mentioned here on this website regarding Paycation Travel.
Let me start off by saying I did work closely with David Manning and his wonderful staff. I had worked with David for over 4 years after my successful marketing system with YTB (Vacation Media), which had over 20k monthly paying members.
My years with working with David had been a privilege and an honor to say the least. He truly is a remarkable man, an excellent speaker and great business minded person.
When David released Xstream Travel, which was a private label booking engine and travel club. I asked him to create one for me which I was reselling for a mere $150 per year. I did have a matrix on the back end for those who wanted to participate in it. But, it was not required.
After a year I close the Vacation Network to start my new venture that Troy Dooley reviewed (Skin La-La). I have since retired from the MLM industry due to health reasons. My ten year in the business was probably the greatest time of my life.
I see that when someone becomes successful that all you reporters love to pick apart companies. All I can say is that David’s company has probably been the longest company that is still in business and with his new crew of leaders: Rick Ricketts, Donal Bradley, Lori Spears, Shawn Manning & Mark Campese with him.
I don’t think anyone is going to stop them. I know Donald & Rick Ricketts from YTB and I can only say, watch out travel companies.
I wish David all the luck in the world, he deserves it!
I remain,
Richard Vincenti
Thanks for clarifying things Richard.
I will say that the recruitment-based white-label travel deal + MLM is well on its way out.
The last few that have launched have fizzled out well shy of six months.
1) YTB ain’t exactly an association to be proud of, as they’ve been chased out of 3 states as pyramid schemes and is now… dead (as of last year)
2) There really isn’t any profit in the travel industry to support MLM. Airlines were down to 1% profit a while back. Southwest and budget carriers may be able to eek out 5%, but typical MLM business needs 50% margin to payout commission.
So “watch out” indeed. This is, as they say, “meatball sundae”.
IMHO, of course. You decide for yourself.
I viewed Troys’ “review” and I must say it was nothing short of an infomercial. He loves the products he has not tried but since he has females living in his household he’s sure the products are great.
This guy also reviewed Zeek and not only found it legit, endorsed it too. Let’s not forget that shills are paid.
“No one has ever gone broke underestimating the stupidity of the American people”.
Troy Dooly is legit. If you watch all of his videos on Zeek Rewards you will see that he is. I can’t stand people that tell half truths to sway people in their thinking.
As far as paycation, I’m doing research on the company right now and so far seem like the best travel company in mlm.
The SEC didn’t seem to think so.
That video where he stopped Dawn Wright Olivares from answering whether or not they used new affiliate money to pay off existing investors “because the answer would be out of compliance”, is cemented in MLM history.
Troy Dooley is the reason I joined Zeek. I was new to the Rev share bs and thought Troy was legit.
A lot of us lot a ton of money in Zeek. He said he wasn’t getting paid showing up to the events etc. I think he’s a bigger dirt bad than Paul Burkes. Never trust anything he says.
I check here and get the opinions on this site for every venture I think I might join. IF I knew about this site before Zeek I could have saved a lot of money and friendships. Thank you behindmlm!
Troy Dooley is the reason I didn’t.
Dooley and legit should never be used in the same sentence, unless there is a “not” somewhere in the middle.
SCAM, SCAM, SCAM. Anyone that knows anything about the travel profession knows this is nothing but a MLM or pyramid scam.
Please don’t fall for this and if you did please contact the police so these people can go to prison where they belong.
Holds up Carlos, first I’m not a member of paycation mostly because the compensation plan. .. well let’s just say I’ve seen better) but don’t be so quick to say scam, there is nothing wrong with mlm or pyramid.
In fact if you have a job, you are apart of a pyramid probably at the bottom or at most a manager (half way up) maybe even the owner (at the top) either way employees work the hardest and get paid the least and are at the bottom of the pyramid.
network marketing and multi level marketing is the business of the 21st century, ask Robert Kyosake, and these people should not go to jail, if anybody should is your boss.
^^ 1990 called, they want their scam excuses back.
There’s nothing wrong with MLM but there’s definitely something wrong with pyramid schemes.
There’s evidently clearly something wrong with you too.
Is that Robert “Rich Dad” Kiyosaki, the guy who f***ed over two partners (first, his co-author Sharon Lector CPA, then The Learning Annex, who made him famous by booking him Madison Square Garden)?
Is that the same Kiyosaki who’s an Amway drone under Bill Galvin (even thanked Galvin in Rich Dad book) but found it more profitable to sell books than Amway?
Kiyosaki is a hack and barely serves as “inspiration”, little else. Don’t use him for “predictions” or cite him as an “expert”.
MLM is a marketing method, but it’s NOT taking over the world.
Mlm marketing is a great strategy to sell a service or product but the problem is the recruitment process has no filter but a price of entry which is always bad. Its no different than buying a job/self employment opportunity.
The energy you put in building a network of affiliates would be better used towards starting your own company. But the problem with that is most people who want to start a business know little to nothing about supplying a valuable product or service which in return leads people to working for someone or something else.
Thats why mlm is so attractive but the problem is the affiliates are focus on the product but getting someone to join the network and pay a fee.
From my research i conclude that Paycation would be great for someone that actually wants to be a travel agent and wouldn’t push the recruitment unless someone with high interest wants to do the same.
Theres absolutely no way that you can get over 2k people to pay that monthly fee consistently for years. The vast majority of people in america need a real job that pays.
If your smart then you would build a business that grows into a major company with dedicated culture and passion for the company. Mlm are for hustlers looking for the next hot move.
Bottom Line they aren’t travel agents, and take note real trained professional travel agents are coming after them!
They won’t be around long… legislation is coming and we are going directly to the tour operators and cruise lines to stop sell to these type of entities.
When a company has to devote so much time trying to explain that it’s not a pyramid scheme or some other scam, you can be sure that it’s a pyramid scheme or scam.
These types of companies prey on the uneducated and the gullible. They make what you’re doing sound very sophisticated to draw you in, but if it was really such a “sophisticated” job, they wouldn’t “hire” everyone and anyone to do it!
I put “hire” in quotes because you aren’t really hired. You pay them for the opportunity to make money for everyone above you by bringing more suckers just like you.
To a real professional travel agent how do you become a real professional travel agent?
Twyla Warren – I have been a travel professional for three years. I started with CLIA’s Accredited Cruise Counsellor, then Luxury Cruise Specialist, Master Cruise Counsellor, and Elite Cruise Counsellor certifications.
I am also Certified Travel Associate with The Travel Institute. Three years of training and sales, and I still have much to learn. This business is learning new things every day. Sites I recommend are:
cruising.org/training-certification/agent-certification
thetravelinstitute.com/certification/
One more for you Twyla
nacta.com/
Indeed a reboot…
In review The Vacation Network Review: Join, recruit, earn
(see nolink://behindmlm.com/companies/the-vacation-network-review-join-recruit-earn/) there are some screenshots of landing page of these travel discount portals…
And now look at 54s of this video on the site supporting Paycation:
nolink://projekt5000.cz/
Do you see the same content as there was 3 years ago? I do…
Adding to previous…
I saw compensation plan of Paycations. None of 9 ways “how to get paid” is based on retail product (travel services) distribution. All compensations are based only on recruiting of (paying) members.
IATA, the Airline Industry Group, will tell you…
iata.org/training/Pages/index.aspx#&&Value=Travel+Agency
My friend just got her IATAN card and she did that with Paycation. She also has had a CLIA for over a year with Paycation.
Paycation is the networking side of the traditional travel agency 13 year old Xstream Travel.
They get CLIA cards for just $49.00. They sell travel and sell the opportunity to own your own travel business. Xstream Travel & Paycation.
^^ Cool story brah. Now what about the recruitment commissions they pay out?
Thank you K STARR for letting the skeptics know that with Paycation you are a REAL travel agent. Outside the MLM marketing, you make commission on travel sales just as a brick and mortar travel agency would, up to 75% of the commissionable sale.
Training is available for most of the major cruise lines and tour companies.You almost get all the travel agent discounts and can go on FAM trips.
The company also has special discounted trips for it’s affiliates.
Outside the MLM marketing?
Yeah… Paycation affiliates are paid to recruit new affiliates.
You can’t cherry pick parts of the business and misrepresent it. Regardless of whether or not Paycation has anything to do with real travel agents, the recruitment-driven aspect of the MLM side of the opportunity cannot be ignored.
do the commissions earned from selling vacations, pay the commissions of paycation reps?
no, the commissions paid to reps come from the investments of recruited reps.
adding a third party product, with piss poor margins, just creates a sheen of legitimacy, for laypersons, who do not understand MLM law.
don’t try it here.
Paycation is not a scam so I am a little confused as to why some people say that it is.
I am with paycation and I totally love it! I hold training classes online for new agents as well as I train them on the client systems.
Paycation which is apart of Xstream travel is a wonderful company as well as it is a fantastic way to make additional residual income for your family. #Happy #Travels
@Jessica
Probably because of the lack of travel commissions paid out, in favor of affiliate recruitment.
There is another travel/vacation internet business company that is on prelaunch called ProTravelPlus. I am looking forward for review of this company in the near future.
I hate innocent people being scam by scammers. Paycation is absolutely a pyramiding scheme and I an so sorry for those people who are involed is rebooted company.
Statistically, I have not seen an industry like this that goes beyond more years. The life span is less than 2 or 3 years.
Paycation is the best company out here with a great product – travel and our travel club, AND a great compensation plan.
We are part of a licensed, bonded, award-winning, tried and true travel company. I am busy selling travel daily and am paid very good commissions on it!
There’s nothing legitimate about recruiting affiliates and ignoring travel altogether.
You’re also paid commissions to recruit new affiliates, who are paid to recruit new affiliates etc.
It’s a lousy product. People are paying $$$ to receive commissions on other people buying memberships.
There is no margin in travel to sustain such a comp plan. Any money you got are from the people you recruited.
Go look up “profit margin” for airlines, cruises, and hotels for 2014 and 2013 for yourself.
How are you getting paid when the travel industry isn’t making much money? Hmmm?
K Chang, I am a traditional travel agent. Been an agent full time since 2007 and I make a very good living at it.
Not sure where you are getting your stats and figures to justify that the travel industry isnt making much.
I am not a paycation agent but was browsing around doing some research and saw your comment and it made me chuckle because there is great money in travel.
I know for a fact that paycation agents are focused solely on recruiting because you rarely hear them mention travel bookings or bragging about how much they are making from bookings. They do however brag about recruiting numbers frequently.
@ a real travel agent
I’m a member, not crazy about recruiting. Having travel benefits and booking travel peeked my interest.
But how are we not really travel agents when we have IATA #s?
I’m with paycation and you are right. Most are focused on recruiting. I am very much interested in booking and am learning on my own pretty much.
Admittedly that was information from a couple years back. It would have recovered somewhat since. I’d say probably about 2010/2011 era.
You’re going to find the travel-side of the business pays peanuts compared to chain-recruitment, which is why you’re in the minority focusing on it.
Either you’ll also focus on the pyramid scheme machine or get out at that point.
FWIW, figures directly from IATA:
And for the hotel industry, as per Sageworks, 5% profit margin 2013:
So how’s your profit again? 🙂
Hi. First off, I’ve been running my travel services business for about 2 years now and just recently joined Paycation last month.
I would like to say that as a business owner, there are a lot of perks in signing up for Paycation.
The services offered (flights, accommodations, cruises) are definitely competitive if not really cheaper than when we go the conventional route. Sometimes, the prices between the published rates, the wholesale discount rates, and the rates we get through Paycation (and in effect through Xstream Travels) are significant in the way we price our travel packages.
This directly affects our bottom lines as travel agents. I can significantly reduce my prices and make it more appealing to my clients without sacrificing profit. Surely, this should be taken as a point for Paycation.
In my humble opinion, there is some legitimacy to the product/service as it does provide means for small and medium sized travel agencies to better deals for their businesses.
That small fact is often forgotten amidst the issue of people connected with Paycation earning a lot more through recruitment.
Personally, I don’t aggressively recruit people to join not because I think it is a scam but because I didn’t intend to use it for MLM payouts.
I use the Paycation site to get the best possible deals for people that I service for. In that sense, joining it does make business sense for me.
I know that there are a lot of backlash for businesses that promise revenue based on recruitment and I could understand that many of us would immediately dismiss MLM based services as scams.
However, it all boils down to how we maximize the use of the services provided in relation to your personal preference. For people like me who is not driven by the urge to recruit people to the business, Paycation and the system used by it to book travel essentials has value.
Would I actively recruit people to the business? Probably not, and that is because I have no interest in the MLM side of Paycation.
Would I recommend the system for someone who is interested in starting a travel business? Definitely.
There is significant upside to the system that allows actual travel agents to earn a decent amount for a minimal fee. It has less hassles and allows the user to dictate the pace and direction of his/her business.
Thanks and best regards,
Ryan
The only one of relevance being recruitment commissions paid on the recruitment of new affiliates.
Not forgotten, just completely irrelevant. When the majority of commissions are paid out on recruitment in an MLM opportunity, whatever it’s attached to doesn’t matter.
By all means, but then why have the attached recruitment commissions?
getting paid to recruit new affiliates. You cannot skirt around this in MLM.
I joined the company about a month ago, I actually stumbled upon Paycation doing research on another direct marketing travel company for a friend and the company sparked my intrest, so I was not “recruited”.
In my findings the company has a two legitimate products:
1) First is a home based business opportunity selling travel through a host agency.
This is the service we pay $69.95 a month for. It is a legitimate service.
Is the the best deal out there? No. Is Xstream the best host agency? Probably not, but for what I want (to sell travel) it offers a very low start-up with the option to get paid to recruit others interested in a home based travel business (or travel club membership).
If someone is serious about a home based travel business and works at it, the $880.00 per year is a good investment. if you can’t make $880.00 in a year then it wont matter who you use for a host agency.
You can make that back booking just 2 or 3 7 day cruises, not to mention the money you can save booking your own travel as a travel agent. Instead of paying to advertise to recruit agents, Xstream Travel (Paycation) compensates agents to recruit new agents.
The compensation comes from the initial signup and monthly subscription to the host agency service. I do not see what is not legit about that. Bottom line is if you use the service it’s worth it, if you don’t it’s not.
2) Second is the “Travel Club” As with the host agency service, the Travel Club is only good if you TRAVEL…Joining a travel club and going on one short vacation per year is like getting a Sam’s Club membership and only shopping there 1-2 times a year.
If you don’t make use of it, it is not worth it. If you spend more than $5,000 per year on travel/vacations then the vacation club is worth it.
The fact that you can join as a Travel Agent, and benefit from the Travel Club (or vice versa) makes Paycation unique among MLM travel companies which is why I joined.
The 3rd aspect is the Network Marketing opportunity. We all know that there are “MLM’ers” always on the watch for the next big thing and jump from opportunity to opportunity.
After doing my research into MLM (I am new to this) I estimate a 97% fail rate across all MLM companies in general if your not using the product/service and depending on recruiting (and your down line recruiting) alone.
I am getting into this to sell travel. My goal is to cover my business costs and cover the costs of my personal travel with the income I generate SELLING TRAVEL. Since I own a marketing business (my full time “job”), I feel I can also market to potential Work-From-Home travel agents.
Commission on recruiting 2-3 new agents per month will cover my monthly subscription, effectively making my business “free” whether my down line recruits or not, not to mention creating a stream of residual income.
I have no illusion about making money recruiting, which is why I view any commission/residual income as a bonus to selling travel.
I personally would like to see Xstream put more emphasis on selling travel as a home based business and less on recruiting and invest in a better cruise booking engine (what they have sucks, but you really don’t want your customers booking online anyway as the commissions are much less) For me, each person I recruit as a travel agent is competition.
The company claims they have agents earning 6 figures just booking travel, I’d much rather go that path since I would be the one in control of my income and not have to depend on myself and those in my down line recruiting.
^^ You could have cut the marketing waffle and just stated:
As it stands you can completely ignore travel and treat Paycation as a chain-recruitment scheme.
You yourself admit they are not competitive, so realistically the only users of the service are going to be affiliates – who are only using it because they get paid recruitment commissions.
Not Paycation affiliates…
Where did I say Paycation was not competitive? I only stated that they were not the lowest cost host agency solution (some host agencies less some are free some are more, some offer better splits, some worse) perhaps they are not the best host agency (some offer better training, some offer better marketing material).
HOWEVER, when I look at the total package (low start-up, reasonable monthly fee, competitive splits, decent training, fair marketing material, a good travel portal and the “recruitment scheme” Paycation was the best choice for me.
No other host agency or MLM travel club offers what Paycation does, at least from what I was able to find.
It’s apparent that you have some kind of hangup with reps getting paid to recruit. Recruiting cost time or money or both and there is a value to that.
Paycation pays a $50-$70 bonus from the $149.95 initial fee, that is basically a finders fee. What’s the issue with that?
Should the bonus come out of thin air? Any residual income (a whopping $3 bucks to start) comes from the monthly fee…I guess in all your infinite wisdom you feel that monthly residual should come where? Oh, right, thin air.
If I sell a 69.95/month home based business opportunity/travel club membership, then my commission/residual should come from the $69.95, which it does.
I’m not selling the opportunity to profit off the travel booked by my down line. I’m selling a home based business opportunity that cost 70 bucks a month to be part of. (But it is my understanding that travel commission overrides from my down line will soon be part of the compensation plan as well, which should make you happy).
Just because Paycation charges 70.00/month for something you can get for less or free (a host agency to book travel and earn commission through) does not make it a scam. I can do my own taxes for free, does that make H&R Block a scam?
I have a $50 set of dumbbells, walk 3 miles a day, watch what I eat and do pushups to stay in shape, does that make gym memberships and personal trainers a scam?
In network marketing there either needs some kind of recurring fee or an overpriced product (ie Herbalife Vitamins) for reps to make money off those they recruit. I prefer the former.
So what if Paycation wants to pay the whole $70 bucks to the reps for recruiting and building an organization, they are making a 25-35% commission off the travel booked by over 20,000+ agents as of now (and any clients their agents book travel for).
One thing is almost certain, 95% of the agents will do some kind of travel themselves and will almost certainly use their travel agent “creds” to do it and Paycation will profit from it, which they are entitled to do.
Paycation director of travel (Lori Spears) in one of their videos did state they have agents earning over $100K per year just booking travel.
They mention a church pastor that books cruises for his church earning 6 figures just on cruise bookings…must be a pretty big church or a church full of cruise fanatics, but that’s what they claim.
The company has a cruise coming up in October and I estimated that if all the cabins that are reserved get booked there is an approximate $125-$150KK commission involved in that cruise alone.
As I stated, I am in this to sell travel, and will recruit people that want to sell travel..But anyone I recruit is just found money
Right here:
The only thing Paycation has going for it is the recruitment scheme.
Paycation doesn’t have agents, the travel discount company might but that’s not Paycation.
And how depressing, yet again religion is being used to tout the MLM underbelly…
Then fact remains, you can sign up with Paycation and get paid to recruit new participants – ignoring travel altogether.
Until that is addressed, nothing else matters (least of all the silly non-MLM comparisons we’ve all heard before).
Not being the best does not equate to not being competitive, the fact that you cant figure that out shows that your overall reasoning is flawed. McDonald’d (Ozedit: is not an MLM company.)
You can buy a gym membership (Ozedit: at a non-MLM company, which is entirely irrelevant.).
I agree 100% with you that if the product is not used, then this company will not last. Paycation/Xstream’s survival is dependent on travel commissions as it appears the bulk of the monthly fee goes to compensation plans.
But here is what I see:
25,000 current associates spending $3000.00 per year in commisionable travel = $3.4 million for Paycation in commission alone. Then tack on $100 per year of the $780 in monthly fees, thats another $2.5 million, then the $40 annual renewal fee, another million.
That’s 7 million. Now assume that Paycation grows to 100K+ associates, that’s around $30 million in profit for Paycation if only their associates book the equivalent of a one week Disney trip for 2 adults and 2 children per year.
I have a friend that spends $20-$30K per year on cruises. He will be using me for his next and subsequent cruises. Just from him alone I will cover my costs and bank about $1500 for the year.
I’d be a fool to sell him on the idea of booking his own cruises to make a $70 bonus and $3/month commission off him, but the truth is for less than $800/year he could save himself about 3K on just his cruises, that does not include international airfare he can save on as well.
The money I will make off booking travel for friends/business associates will more than cover my costs and my personal travel (I plan to take 3-4 cruises off the profits of this little side business)…If I make a few extra dollars recruiting some agents, that is just icing on the cake.
^^ What you predict is irrelevant. Right here, right now this is just another recruitment-driven travel niche MLM opportunity.
The travel discounts are third-party and available elsewhere, leaving only the recruitment opportunity.
And there is your problem. They are not selling. They are SPENDING MONEY. They are the customer, not affiliate.
You’re starting to make Paycation sound like Herbalife. Perhaps you should stop and think about what you wrote more carefully.
Right here, right now I am able to book travel and earn commissions only available to travel agents thru my affiliation with Xstream Travel/Paycation and I pay $70/month for that opportunity.
Consumers cannot earn a 16% discount on a Carnival Cruise, but I can earn a 16% commission. Therefore I can either profit by booking a cruise for others or get “paid” to book a cruise for myself. This is not available to consumers.
The only thing irrelevant is your “knowledge” of this company and how they operate. If what your saying is true then every single travel agency in the world (Ozedit: is irrelevant, because we are only talking about the MLM ones.)
What you’re able to do doesn’t negate the fact that right here, right now I can sign up as a Paycation affiliate, pay a fee and then get paid to do nothing more than recruit others who sign up as affiliates and pay this fee.
In MLM this is a problem. Token compliance (“but you can do this/but you can do that”) does not cancel out chain-recruitment commissions.
Anything that is not MLM is entirely irrelevant to this discussion.
Continue to delude yourself but don’t pull the “you guys don’t know what you’re talking about” cop out, that’s just weak.
You need to read more carefully Oz…What I wrote was a “worst case” meaning that out of 25,000 associates NONE booked any travel for others and only $3K per year for themselves…
I’m certain that I am not the only one out of 25,000 booking travel for others, so my guess is Paycation will earn much more and agents will save/earn more in travel commisions.
That is the whole point of Paycation. You can make money booking travel for others and save money booking travel for yourself.
If you can’t between the 2 save or earn at least $800 per year, then this opportunity is not for you or you will have to recruit. In my case it will be profitable whether or not I choose to recruit.
I’m not interested in “scenarios” and “predictions”.
Right here, right now I can sign up as a Paycation affiliate and get paid to recruit new affiliates – completely ignoring travel and the sale of anything to retail customers in the process.
Historically the travel MLM niche has had next to no retail, with the majority of commissions paid out on affiliate recruitment.
If Paycation wishes to be different, why pay out recruitment commissions at all?
Why not instead pay out a commission when affiliates use the travel discounts.
Oh right, because then nobody would get paid and the scheme would collapse.
is a waste of everybody’s time.
If Paycation was about travel they’d have no need to pay recruitment commissions, which is chain-recruitment and a regulatory no-no in the US.
Oz I believe the difference is, from what I could gather, is that other travel MLM companies were simply “travel clubs” whereas with Paycation/Xstream there is a legitmate host travel agency.
Using WorldVentures as an example (and I am not trashing WV, just showing the difference) all there is a travel club. Yeah you have a booking engine, but you earn no commission, only “points”…and the “Dream Trips” are really not much to talk about, which is why they dont show the pricing…and the “price guarantee” is bogus as it is impossible to book an “exact” trip.
With Paycation I can NEVER use the travel club NEVER book travel for myself and NEVER recruit a single agent and still earn an income. If that is not legit, then what is?
And what is wrong with recruiting and getting paid for it? Paycation can either pay TV, radio, newspapers, magazines, and search engines millions to help them recruit or they can “keep it in the family” and recruit from within. What’s wrong with that?
The test to determine an MLM companies legitimacy is if the product can stand on its own WITHOUT the need to recruit. The business opportunity they offer passes that test.
A home based travel consultant is a legitimate career and there are plenty of other non MLM host agencies doing the same thing as Paycation, the only difference is that they use “traditional” methods to recruit agents.
My guess is, as with any business, that the failure rate will be the same whether or not the agents are recruited via MLM or traditional means.
I’d have to think that Priceline’s legal team looked into Paycation’s business practices before giving 20,000+ reps access to their booking engine and affiliate program.
it’s nice that you are so enthusiastic about paycation, but i think you don’t understand MLM that well.
paying commissions on recruitment in MLM is ILLEGAL. in MLM commissions can Only be paid on Products Sold.
the paycation Membership is Not A Product.
really? will people be buying membership to paycation if the recruitment scheme was not available?
the travel packages are a third party offering and not the ‘product’ of paycation.
How many times I got to say it? What you can and can’t do doesn’t negate recruitment commissions being paid out.
In MLM? Everything.
That’s false, otherwise every product-based pyramid scheme would therefore be legit.
You can’t pay straight recruitment commissions on affiliate membership in MLM, period. When you do so you enter chain-recruitment territory.
What Priceline did or didn’t do has nothing to with Paycation offering recruitment commissions in their MLM business opportunity.
Furthermore anyone can “access” Paycation’s opportunity, it’s open to the general public. Priceline didn’t give anyone “access” to anything.
Nope. You’d think that Travelocity would have vetted TVI Express before letting TVI Express use their booking engine and affiliate program too, and TVI Express was indeed declared illegal in countries all over and Tarun Trikha was arrested in India after conning his way into China, Indonesia, the US, and Philippines, not to mention India itself.
Basically, you are ASSUMING that other people would do your due diligence FOR YOU. That is a very dangerous assumption… for you.
We’re not discussing how legitimate is the backing.
We’re discussing how legal it is as a MLM, and the answer is “not very” due to commission based on recruitment. Your persistent in not addressing the issue can be termed “willful blindness”.
Two words: PYRAMID SCHEME. Look up “Koscot Interplanetary” for the case that defined pyramid scheme in the US. You can’t pay commission on recruitment, PERIOD. If Paycation does this, they’re a pyramid scheme, no MLM.
Just looked it up: that’s the regular rate for the individual agent if the host agency has 100+ agents. if you only have like under 25 agents you need to pay $99 a year.
And you’re supposed to earn $5000 in commissions a year to keep the CLIA agent membership. Wonder how many Paycation folks earn that?
cruising.org/membership-center/clia-membership-matters-more-ever
K. Chang – Your persistently not addressing that Paycation does not pay commission for recruiting, they pay commission on the 69.95/month host agency fee/travel club membership they offer.
If you do your due diligence it states on the CLIA website that the $5000 commission requirement can be waived at the host agencies discretion. It’s amazing how selective you guys are at “facts” you present.
Apparently they would be. There are many other host agencies out there that cost anywhere from free to over $150/month, if they are doing it without MLM I am sure Paycation/Xstream could too.
I joined with the intention of NOT selling the opportunity and earning a commission, but the fact that the option is available along with the other factors discussed previously is why I chose Paycation.
Just curious as to which one of you “experts” have the credentials (ie law degree) to be able to emphatically state that what this company is doing is illegal…My guess none of you.
If for whatever reason I am wrong and AG’s start running Paycation out of town, I am really not worried about it. I’ll just move to a “legal” host agency and sell travel thru them. Until that times comes you “experts” speculate on the companies legality to keep yourselves amused.
Which is attached to affiliate membership (the income opportunity).
Pseudo-compliance won’t get you very far here. Recruitment commissions are recruitment commissions, and Paycation are very much paying them.
yes, see, signing up people as ‘members’ at 69.95/month, and paying commissions on that is Recruitment Commission’.
membership is NOT a product. paying commission on membership is illegal and makes the business a pyramid scheme.
eg: you can become a member of herbalife by a payment of approx 100$. NO commission is paid on this membership. this membership fee is refundable. this is LEGAL.
are you getting it, or will you just drown us in long posts about this and that?
(Ozedit: Snip, we’re well aware of “MLM Law”. Recruitment commissions (chain recruitment) is illegal in the US.)
(Ozedit: Chain recruitment schemes are illegal in the US. We get it, you can stop spamming now.)
And where did you dig up that little gem, Joe ??
Just because you post something with an air of authority doesn’t make it factual or true.
Here’s another definition for you:
See that “unsustainable” and “primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme” ????
That would be “primarily” as in:
Pyramid schemes are illegal in every state of the USA BECAUSE they are unsustainable, despite what the promoters of such schemes may promise or what product the scheme may purport to sell.
I posted a link to an article law firm that specializes in MLM law but the moderator found it necessary to “censor” it…The “air of authority” thing goes both ways.
Here is the link again. Read it and come to your own conclusion:
mlmlaw.com/law-library/guides-reference/multilevel-marketing-primer
The fact that it can be waived doesn’t make it any less a requirement. And if the agency waives just about everybody, they are making a mockery of CLIA’s regulations, as waivers are supposed to be EXCEPTIONS due to extenuating circumstances (like this guy’s really close, he did 4500…)
Maybe YOU should go ask CLIA or Paycation how many agents does Paycation/Xstream have under CLIA’s agency membership, and how many of them are waived.
Wouldn’t you want to know for sure that do Paycation people really sell that many cruises… or are they just waiving everybody?
Pretty sure they are waiving everyone and CLIA is allowing it so I really dont care…I have no illusions, this is all about dollars..$50 x 20,000 Paycation members = $1 million for CLIA, they wont say no to that.
I really don’t care what other agents are doing, in fact I hope the suck at marketing their travel business and are more caught up in the MLM aspect…That means more potential travel clients for me… 😉
Membership fee is not commissionable.
–Kevin Thompson, the MLM Attorney @ NOLINK://thompsonburton.com/mlmattorney/2010/09/01/training-fees-and-monthly-service-fees-be-careful/
Please read up on MLM law and best practices before trying to debate us on it.
Thank you moderator for allowing the link. After reading the article I personally believe Paycation operates legally, maybe in a “grey area” but still legal.
Of course just like anything that is not 100% “cut-and-dry” the laws regarding MLM are open for interpretation and will vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.
My interpretation is that if earning income or benefiting from a product or service is not contingent upon recruiting additional participants, then it is not an illegal pyramid scheme.
There really is nothing more to be said other than do your own research and come to your own conclusion.
i mean, all of us talking to joe here, have said as much.
he just wont stop!!
hey joe, go learn MLM. it’s not about who is an expert about what, its about the LAW which is available to all of us !
Thanks K Chang…Very interesting and just goes to the support the whole “interpetation” thing. The author states that compensation paid on monthly fees “may” or “can” be a problem “if a regulator takes exception”. He does not say it “is” a problem and does not quote any law or statue to support the legality one way or the other.
I did read up on it and came to the conclusion that Paycation operates legally.
While it may not not be “best practice” there is nothing to indicate to me that what Paycation is doing is illegal. This is just my own opinion and interpretation.
Most people here are already familiar with that source, but it hasn’t been referred to in a very long time.
I can agree to use that source. It’s relevant enough, but what does it support? You should at least identify the relevant sections and what we can find there.
Section I.B “Is your program Multi level” seems to be relevant enough for YES or NO.
Section I.C “Elements of a pyramid” seems to be relevant enough.
Section I.D “Important issues” seems to have some relevance, e.g. the part about sale to end users.
(Section II is about buying clubs, so we can limit the scope to section I)
So what happens when that friend gets approached by their other friend who is also a paycation affiliate?
That friend is offering to save them 2k a year. What kind of friend will they think you are?
I mean anyone can sign up, right? There are no territories, special skills, and as you pointed out, no major start up costs.
Or, if those friends have grandchildren, they should sign up and consider that 2k savings a college fund gift. Why give it to you?
Yes, each person you recruit is competition. Very true! So why associate yourself with an MLM?
Also, you already posted you’re aware of the 97% failure rate. Have you really thought this through Joe? Curious, what type of person signed you up and their plan? Do they know the same people you know?
The dictionary defense, eh? Sorry, but you will need to explain how you think this supports your belief that Paycation is legal.
You don’t get to turn in an encyclopedia for your essays in school. Similar rules here: explain your viewpoint rather than sounding like a pompous ***.
Nowhere in that section says you can pay commission on membership dues, BTW.
@Joe
Countering this is every product-based pyramid scheme shut down by regulators over the years.
You’re slowly getting there, acknowledging that having recruitment commissions and a service “is in the grey” (which is nothing to be proud of).
Next step is realizing having a service/product doesn’t make you any less of a chain-recruitment pyramid scheme (they all have products/services these days).
That’s cut any dry, with the only people insisting otherwise being participants of such schemes.
Cmon guys, Joe used his “feels” and “interpretations” and “opinions”. Don’t you know that trumps product-based pyramid scheme caselaw and regulatory advice?
When someone in an MLM opportunity has to resort to “Look I hear your concerns, but we operate in what I believe to be the grey”, run.
So you choose to ignore advice of a lawyer, because in your purely amateur opinion he didn’t explain it to YOUR satisfaction.
Thanks for your honesty in that you admit you have NO CLUE on what you’re talking about.
I was a member of World Class Network(WCN) durly early 90s selling travel.
One of the reasons that WCN closed down and weren’t able to continue was FTC got involve and saw that WCN reps were making money from recruiting reps even before they start booking any travels.
I started learning about what MLM/Network Marketing/Direct Selling and the legality. I’m now with a company who service electricity/gas, not only a Network Marketing company, it’s also a licence Public Utility on each state that they service in.
Yes, there is an initial fee and monthly fee to start, but NO reps get paid or even a penny without anyone gathering customers. If we are, then that is a definition of an ILLEGAL PYRAMID SCHEME.
In addition, my company is a DSA (Direct Selling Association) affiliate who are the WATCHDOG of the MLM/Network Marketing/Direct Selling companies globally making sure the companies are fair to both consultants and also for customers and also not operating an illegal pyramid scheme which is making money once a new rep gets in the business.
DSA is like a BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU of MLM/Network Marketing/Direct Selling. They have the highest code of ethics that all affiliate members have to follow.
If a company is not a DSA affiliate it’s a RED FLAG.
Paycation is not affiliate with them. I did look at Paycation compensation plan and yes, reps get paid monthly residual income even without booking any travels.
If a company can survive without selling products/services and all reps make residual income then this is a RED FLAG.
All kinds of compensation plans should be the result of selling products/services to a consumer and not from selling the opportunity!!!!!
In my conclusion, there is a HUGE flaw on Paycation’s comp plan and it’s a matter of time that FTC will get involve unless this company change otherwise.
I consider myself a Network Marketing Professional and company like this makes our industry look bad.
I’m a full time dad and i have thousands of consultants in my organization with an average of 20 customers each who pay their bills every single month which in turn monthly residual income for my family every single month.
Customers purchasing products/services every single month is the result of monthly residual income in a legitimate MLM/Network Marekting/Direct Selling company….. PERIOD!!!!
I just took 10 min to read all of these comments, pros and cons, I think everyone should just go book travel in whatever company you want.
There will always be MLM’s, get over it and earn some money, especially in this economy.
Secondly, no company is perfect and wait and see what happens. I am quite sure some of you of are trying to bash Paycation, would love to have some of the people in your organization.
Obviously, I am in Paycation, I book travel, I have a CLIA card, will earn my IATAN in the next year as I continue to book groups, cruises, etc and also I recruit others to do the same.
So if you want to research, etc., knock yourself out, but I am earning a living. Thank you very much.
Neither of which addresses the chain recruitment taking place in Paycation.
Why? Paycation’s business model is not unknown. We know the comp plan and we know affiliates are getting paid to recruit new affiliates.
Wait for what exactly?
Obviously. Nobody else is going to defend the scheme.
Seemingly without a conscience. Good luck with that.
But are you complying with your state’s own requirements, such as California’s “Seller of Travel” program? And if you sell to California, are you registered?
NOLINK://oag.ca.gov/travel
It’s not as simple as you say it is. It never is.
Some of you on here are talking about the Paycation compensation plan like it’s a secret, Yeah the plan does show how you get paid and it may be off recruitment what I’m getting at is it’s no secret.
PAYCATION EXECUTIVE AND STILL MOVING “UP” THE RANKS
This, ladies and gentlemen, is why you don’t make up things in your head and try to build discussions around them.
That that doesn’t concern you is… disturbing.
Thanks for admitting that even though you don’t give a **** on whether Paycation is legal or not, you’re going at it AS IF IT IS ILLEGAL PYRAMID SCHEME by emphasizing recruitment.
I’m sure company just LOVE comments like this from its reps.
I am not sure why people keep saying paycation gives you 75% commission on travel bookings because that is not true.
A friend of mine joined paycation and booked a trip for me. I found a deal on travelzoo for Tahiti (flight from LA + 6 nights hotel for $1257/person, amazing deal). So I asked my friend if he could find something cheaper.
After 2 days of research he came back to me with the exact same deal. But I booked through him since he was a friend and it would help him out.
So i booked for two people, came out to $2500. He got $62.50 in commission. Basically since they don’t get commission for flights they only get commission on the part of the package that is the hotel (which was about $400 probably not the exact number).
So of the $400, 75% goes to xtream travel and 25% goes to paycation. Of the 75% that went to xtreme travel, xtreme travel gives you 10% of that as commission.
So 75% of %400 is $300, and 10% of that is $30…the trip was for 2 people so $30 X 2 = $60 which is the commission he received.
I already know this is a pyramid scheme because you can make money based solely on referrals, you don’t need to sell product which is the definition of a pyramid scheme (if you google pyramid scheme you will see this definition on several federal/government websites).
Basically when you join you become a travel consultant (NOT a travel agent so don’t call yourself one) and you receive an IATA number which you use for your bookings.
My question is…… I already have a well paying job but I have a passion for travel and would LOVE to get experience booking vacations.
I’m not worried about loosing a couple hundred dollars and I could use this as a home business to write off on my taxes. I figure once the pyramid collapses and the company closes I could use the experience I gained to start my own business in the travel industry.
I would NOT refer anyone, I would solely be concerned with just booking travel. So if FTC closes this down or deems it illegal, would I get fined or be in any serious trouble for being a part of it?
That’s the only thing I’m concerned about, otherwise I would join just for the experience on the travel booking end.
I cant believe that Paycation is still around. I thought for sure it would have collapsed by now.
Joining Paycation does not make one a “travel agent”.
What about being a member of NACTA and this for people in California and Florida:
So all these people selling travel in California need to “pay taxes”…….. that is interesting.
California is broke, so I’m sure that taxing these so-called travel agents would be of high priority for Sacramento!
If that’s all you’re interested in then surely you can find a less risky alternative?
How is Paycation been doing? I don’t see affiliates spamming travel certificates anymore in Facebook.
BBB says things aren’t looking to good.
bbb.org/dallas/business-reviews/travel-clubs/paycation-travel-in-allen-tx-90554122
Joe. Are u still in paycation? I am being recruited now.
All of Your comments made me WANT to do this, even More! But would like to know if you are successful in it and still feel the same.
You should defintely update your article and notice that Paycation is still around and thriving.
We have been in partnership with Priceline for about 2 years now. This is a 63B company.
Now I know alot of people have done their “so called” research about us but I dare you to get more indepth as a 63B company would do if its wants to maintain their credibility in the travel arena.
It was definitely entertaining reading this from start to finish….thinking this company would have collapsed by now. But like Ive heard, you arent making any moves if you dont have haters hoping for your downfall.
Good day!
Alexa statistics to the Paycation domain reveals a sharp decline since 2015. For a recruitment-dependent business model, that’s not thriving.
Signing up to a third-party affiliate network != partnership.
youtube.com/watch?v=faLBZ6njzOc&nohtml5=False
They seem pretty happy with the partnership. Ill leave this as my last comment. I have trips to book!! Have an amazing rest of your day!
Again, signing up with an affiliate program != partnership.
pricelinepartnernetwork.com
Anyone can sign up, subject to approval. Signing up Paycation as a Priceline affiliate is all Paycation’s owners have done.
Rick Schneider is misrepresenting Pacation being an affiliate of Priceline as a “partnership”. I suppose you could call it that, but let’s not pretend the two businesses are working together in any capacity other than an affiliate relationship.
And you didn’t address the visible decline in Paycation’s website activity. Once recruitment hits a critical threshold, kaboom.
As an aside, what’s with the fake headlines he makes up from USA Today?
“Hey guys, here’s a newspaper. I’m not gunna blow smoke up your ass by reading you Paycation headlines that don’t exist.” And the Paycation affiliates in attendance lap it up (lol).
LOL!!! “Anyone can sign up, subject to approval” What does that mean?? Thats like saying anyone can date Beyonce….subject to her approval! You’re basically saying anyone can fill out the application but not ANYONE can become a partner.
And the funny thing about it is that you really think its all about recruiting! Xstream Travel (the traditional travel agency) funds most of the compensation portion of the business…not recruiting. Thats why we are able to pay some of the highest commissions in the industry. Not all about getting people “in”.
And we all knew that it really wasnt the headline…but I guess you dont believe in positive thinking and afformations.
Priceline ask in the application for an estimate on how many hotel booking you can provide them with each month. That implies they’re looking for established marketers.
Anyone can otherwise fill in the form to apply, it’s publicly available.
That’s all Paycation’s owners did, fill in the form and sign up as a Paycation affiliate. Because Rich Schneider is friends with someone in Paycation management, he comes along to their events to drum up business.
1. Proof?
2. Travel profit margins are notoriously low. If travel commissions alone were sustainable, there’d be no need to charge affiliates monthly fees.
But seeing as the majority of commissions paid out by Paycation are recruitment-based, they have to.
Right, you do you and I’ll stick to the facts.
Full disclosure: I am a Paycation rep.
There are a few things missing from this discussion. The first has to do with the benefits of becoming a rep even without seeking to operate a business as a recruiter, a travel agent, or both.
Those who complete the training, which is set to be improved dramatically on Monday, are able to access travel agent rates and get commission when booking their own trips. They also have access to member only trips, which are typically discounted 25-40% off the regular price. The opportunity to take FAM trips also open up a world of possibilities for independent travel.
Another is that Paycation and Xstream are highly regarded by travel vendors. Among the companies and organizations represented at the company’s convention earlier this month were CLIA (mentioned by a non-Xstream agent above), Norwegian Cruise Lines, Carnival, Tours for the World, and Priceline, all well regarded businesses within the industry.
Finally, Paycation Plus now offers additional services that can be sold to retail customers. These include identity protection, home security, and more.
It’s fair to have your own views on the company, but the discussion would not be complete without this information.
This is “missing” from the discussion as, in light of recruitment commissions being paid out, is entirely irrelevant. One part of the business doesn’t cancel out another.
What does internal consumption have to do with recruitment commissions?
What does being highly regarded travel vendors have to do with recruitment commissions?
Signing the company up as an affiliate with third-party merchants has no bearing on Paycation paying recruitment commissions.
How so? Nothing you added changes the fact Paycation’s primary source of revenue is affiliate fees, which it uses to pay recruitment commissions with.