Daisy AI Review: EndoTech launches securities fraud opp
DAISY is a portmanteau of “Decentralized AI System”. The company’s full name is Daisy AI.
Daisy AI is presented as an offshoot of EndoTech, a company whose website domain was registered in February 2018.
Despite not existing online till 2018, EndoTech claims on its website it was founded in 2012. The company pitches itself as a crypto trading bot firm, based out of Israel.
That said, the corporate address provided on EndoTech’s website appears to belong to a restaurant.
Heading up EndoTech is co-founders Anna Becker and Dmitry Gushchin.
Both have LinkedIn profiles that claim they are based out of Israel. Notably absent are employment histories.
From what little there is online about Becker, she seems to have spent the last few years coasting from one failed cryptocurrency project to another.
Dmitry Gushchin doesn’t appear to have any online footprint whatsoever. This is because he intentionally misspells his name on EndoTech’s website.
Gushchin’s actual surname is Gooshchin.
Other than playing chess a decade ago and selling “high-class antennas” through his company Fractom, Gooshchin doesn’t appear to have done anything professionally significant since.
I assume that like Becker, Gooshchin reinvented himself as a cryptocurrency expert sometime over the past few years.
Read on for a full review of Daisy AI’s MLM opportunity.
Daisy AI’s Products
Daisy AI has no retailable products or services, with affiliates only able to market Daisy AI affiliate membership itself.
Daisy AI’s Compensation Plan
Daisy AI affiliates invest funds on the promise of a daily return.
There are ten Daisy AI buy in investment tiers:
Returns are calculated based on how much a Daisy AI affiliate invests. Specifics aren’t provided but a Daisy AI marketing example depicts a 3% daily ROI:
The rest of Daisy AI’s compensation plan rewards affiliates for recruiting new affiliate investors.
Daisy AI affiliates earn 5% of buy in fees paid by personally recruited affiliates.
Daisy AI pays residual commissions via a 3×10 matrix.
A 3×10 matrix places an affiliate at the top of a matrix, with three positions directly under them:
These three positions form the first level of the matrix. The second level of the matrix is generated by splitting these first three positions into another three positions each (9 positions).
Levels three to ten of the matrix are generated in the same manner, with each new level housing three times as many positions as the previous level.
Eacy Daisy AI buy in level operates as an independent matrix tier. Affiliates can only earn residual commissions on buy in tiers they have bought into.
E.g. if you sign up at the $100, $200 and $400 tiers and recruit someone who buys in at $800, residual commissions on the $800 buy in will be paid to another affiliate who has bought in at $800.
With that qualification criteria in mind, residual commissions are paid out as a percentage of buy in investment, based on what level of the matrix the affiliate buying in is placed:
- matrix levels 1 and 2 – 4% of $100 to $6400 buy in tiers, 2% of $12,800 to $51,200 tiers
- matrix levels 3 to 8 – 3% of $100 to $6400 buy in tiers, 1.5% of $12,800 to $51,200 tiers
- matrix levels 9 and 10 – 4% of $100 to $6400 buy in tiers, 2% of $12,800 to $51,200 tiers
Note that to unlock level three of any buy in tier matrix, the following additional qualification criteria applies:
- to unlock matrix level 3 recruit three affiliates and generate $1000 in personally recruited affiliate buy in revenue
- to unlock matrix level 4 recruit six affiliates and generate $2000 in personally recruited affiliate buy in revenue
- to unlock matrix level 5 recruit nine affiliates and generate $4000 in personally recruited affiliate buy in revenue
- to unlock matrix level 6 recruit twelve affiliates and generate $8000 in personally recruited affiliate buy in revenue
- to unlock matrix level 7 recruit fifteen affiliates and generate $16,000 in personally recruited affiliate buy in revenue
- to unlock matrix level 8 recruit eighteen affiliates and generate $32,000 in personally recruited affiliate buy in revenue
- to unlock matrix level 9 recruit twenty-one affiliates and generate $64,000 in personally recruited affiliate buy in revenue
- to unlock matrix level 10 recruit twenty-four affiliates and generate $128,000 in personally recruited affiliate buy in revenue
These amounts seem steep but are presented as universal matrix level unlock requirements (across all buy in tiers).
Finally, if an affiliate unlocks a matrix level from level 3 in their first thirty days, they unlock the next tier as a bonus.
E.g. if you unlock level 3 within thirty days of signing up then level 4 is unlocked as a bonus.
If a Daisy AI affiliate unlocks all ten matrix tiers within their first thirty days, they receive a share in 1.1% of company-wide buy in investment.
Update 22nd March 2021 – Following Daisy AI’s launch flop a few months ago, there’s talk a relaunch either happening or happening soon.
A significant change is there being a 3×10 matrix attached to each Daisy AI investment tier.
Affiliates can’t buy in at the higher tiers unless they’ve bought in at the lower tiers first. /end update
Daisy AI affiliates are paid a 10% match on residual commissions earned by personally recruited affiliates.
Note that the match is only paid on matrix levels that an affiliate and their personally recruited affiliate have both unlocked.
Daisy Infinity Club
The Daisy Infinity Club pays a match on returns paid to downline affiliates.
The Daisy Infinity Club is tracked via a unilevel compensation structure.
A unilevel compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a unilevel team, with every personally recruited affiliate placed directly under them (level 1):
If any level 1 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 2 of the original affiliate’s unilevel team.
If any level 2 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 3 and so on and so forth down a theoretical infinite number of levels.
The Daisy Infinity Club pays 1% on returns earned by affiliates directly and indirectly recruited into an affiliate’s unilevel team.
A 100% ROI match is paid on the first Daisy Infinity Club qualified affiliate in each unilevel team leg. 50% is paid on the second.
Note that to qualify for the Daisy Infinity Club, a Daisy AI affiliate must either:
- generate $1,000,000 in downline buy in volume within their first thirty days; or
- generate $10,000,000 in downline buy in volume (no time limit).
Up to 50% of required buy-in volume can be counted from any one unilevel team leg.
Part of a Daisy AI affiliate’s buy in is put towards a trading account.
It sounds like this account generates an addition ROI but this isn’t clarified in Daisy AI’s marketing material.
In any event, the Trading Bonus pays a percentage of funds withdrawn from the payment of “trading rewards”.
Exact percentages are tracked across the same 3×10 matrices used to pay residual commissions (same level unlock criteria too):
- level 1 – 3.5% match
- levels 2 to 10 – 1% match
Daisy AI runs a share pool funded by new investment.
Affiliates receive shares in the pool based on how much they sign up with:
- buy in for $100 and receive one share
- buy in for $200 and receive three shares
- buy in for $400 and receive seven shares
- buy in for $800 and receive fifteen shares
- buy in for $1600 and receive thirty-one shares
- buy in for $3200 and receive sixty-three shares
- buy in for $6400 and receive one hundred and twenty-seven shares
- buy in for $12,800 and receive two hundred and fifty-five shares
- buy in for $25,600 and receive five hundred and eleven shares
- buy in for $51,200 and receive one thousand and twenty-three shares
Joining Daisy AI
Daisy AI affiliate membership starts at $100.
Full participation in the attached income opportunity costs $102,300.
Note that Daisy AI only accepts tether (USDT).
Update 3rd January 2020 – Since launching Daisy AI is reported to have switched to TRON. /end update
Daisy AI pitches its MLM opportunity as an “equity crowd funding model”.
That’s scamspeak for “AI trading”, which in turn is MLM crypto scamspeak for “Ponzi scheme”.
Basically there’s nothing in Daisy AI that you haven’t heard before. The same trading bot bullshit every MLM crypto scam comes up with:
Her teams of AI scientists have more than 20 proprietary AI systems in operation and serve as the AI investing backbone of trading at more than 150 investment firms across the United States, Europe and Asia.
When all they’re doing is recycling invested funds.
Taking a step back, quite obviously Daisy AI is offering passive returns. I’m not going to even touch the equity rubbish because neither Daisy AI or EndoTech are publicly listed companies.
MLM + passive returns = a securities offering.
Be it Israel or anywhere else in the world, neither EndoTech, Daisy AI (or any other company name derivitive), Anna Becker or Dmitry Gushchin/Gooshchin are registered to offer securities.
This means that at a minimum, Daisy AI and anyone promoting it is committing securities fraud.
Fully aware of what they’re doing, Daisy AI offers up the following laughable pseudo-compliance:
Purchasing the Daisy Crowd Fund packages is a contribution to the equity crowd fund for the Daisy ai development and not a trading investment.
Endotech is giving both shares of stock in the company and profit sharing from trading results, to each contributor as crowd funding rewards.
Daisy AI and EndoTech can call their passive returns whatever they want. At the end of the day affiliates deposit funds on the representation of passive returns, however convoluted the wording may be.
Oh and there’s also this:
Always amusing when scammers trip on their own nonsense.
The link to EndoTech is interesting, not because of waffle marketing but because it appears to be a standalone non-MLM trading bot scheme.
We develop and distribute high performance, AI driven trading strategies and bots.
It’s the usual con, hook up your trading account and we’ll generate passive returns for you.
If I had to guess that scam is on the rocks and so they’ve decided to go full MLM and launch a reload with Daisy AI.
Alexa currently estimates a whopping 96% of traffic to EndoTech’s website originates out of Spain. There’s probably something in that, as opposed to two nobodies running the show out of Israel.
Regardless, you know how this ends. Math guarantees the majority of Ponzi investors lose money when said Ponzi inevitably collapses.
Daisy AI and EndoTech won’t play out any different.
Update 26th January 2021 – In response to the implication that Anna Becker’s former ties to The Financial Commission lends legitimacy to Daisy AI, The Financial Commission has put out a statement distancing itself from Becker.
Update 15th July 2021 – With the launch of Daisy token, Daisy AI has initiated the shit token phase of its exit-scam.
Serial scammer Vitaliy Dubinin interviewing Dmitry Gushchin/Gooshchin in somebody’s basement:
(Ozedit: Vitaliy Dubinin video link removed, see #5 below.)
Look who’s involved in the promoting as well; Eugene Limbix aka Network Maniacs aka Elysium Allstars
Thanks for the review. I thought it was a ponzi when I first heard of it a month ago but could not find anything on it and I checked here first. This is my go to site to check on scams!
Vitality talking with Adam Rubin: (Ozedit: Vitaliy Dubanin video link removed, see #5 below)
The video Alex posted didn’t last long, deleted within hours of being posted here.
edit: lol, the video I linked to in #1 is also gone. Hi Vitaliy!
Another scam that’s over before it began?
This Adam Rubin appears to be a principal in scheme (VP of Tech in EndoTech).
Sounds South African to me. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s running things.
I believe the numbers on the website of Endotech aren’t correct. I found a review about the bot. The bot has generated a loss of -18% after 2 months.
If those results are accurate then no wonder they’ve gone the MLM Ponzi route.
Crypto buzz words, easy pickings.
First of all thank you for the review of D.AI.SY very informative as always. You wrote that Anna Becker seems to have spent the last few years coasting from one failed cryptocurrency project to another.
If possible I would be very interested to hear which projects these were.
I can’t cite complete information that led to me to that (I’d have to really dig through my browser history), but from memory it’s anything EndoTech has been involved in prior to launching their ETBot earlier this year.
Stuff like this:
Pareto token is one of them. That was from a marketing video Becker did in 2017.
Basically every crypto project EndoTech has been involved in prior to 2020 has flopped.
So they launched ETBot, which also flopped.
Now they’re launching Daisy AI, an MLM crypto Ponzi.
All big scammers are on board.
Ankur Agarwal, Simon Hardy, Eugene Limbix, Steve Lawson, Brendon Parker, Frank Calabro Jr. The list is sooo long.
Ok, I’ve reviewed the information and just want to get some feedback.
I googled Dr. Becker and there is some information on her other than the linkedin, see:
Also some linkedin profiles are set “private” where you have to join to connect and view the person’s information.
What I’ve learned is that you have to do your own due diligence, I’m not sure if this is legitimate or not but I would say do your own research. To me it’s like a Minister interpreting scripture but you never pick up the bible to fact check.
Regarding the address location being at a restaurant, if you google the address and the building, it appears to have multiple businesses at this site. I know in the states, in the downtown areas there are multi bank buildings with restaurants and other businesses located at the same address, just different unit numbers.
I’ve never been into MLM’s, so I’m a novice. However, they are claiming to go public in 2022. You don’t even have to refer, just get in on investing in stock in the business. How well established is the business, that’s more research for me. I wish I had got in on Microsoft, Apple and these other tech companies.
All I’m recommending is that you do your own research. If this business and plan is not legal, why are they not being reported to shut them down before they even launch?
May you all find success in whatever path you choose to take. Stay healthy and be safe!
I came across this in my own research. Didn’t bother including it because it had nothing to do with Daisy AI, EndoTech or their plunge into securities fraud.
Also you can try to visit that Sherpa website, only to find it doesn’t exist. Another failed venture to add to the list.
The provided address is that of a restaurant. There’s no suite/unit number or distinction from the restaurant’s street address.
Regulation of scams is up to regulators and law enforcement. That doesn’t mean you can’t identify a Ponzi scheme like Daisy AI based on its business model.
If you’re in the US, you can check the SEC’s Edgar database and verify that neither EndoTech, Daisy AI or Anna Becker are registered to offer securities in the US.
Rabu Gary who has Facebook group called United Investment Group International says he has team of 700k for start on Dec. 15. He is heavily promoting on FB.
Found this: youtu.be/0oIaxxYfNA0
Not sure who the interviewer is, maye you guys know who he is?
They claim she solved a 30 year old mathproblem and was teaching her fellow studens when she was 20.
Something like that there would surely be articles about or an announcement from her university.
I also found her on this page b42.ai, this is a beautyproduct page.
That’s a reupload of Vitaliy Dubinin’s video. The one he deleted from his own YT channel within 24 hrs of this review going live (#1).
Yes Rabu Gary states that as far as investing they have different rules in different countries. He states that since these investments are not based in the US the SEC can’t touch us!
I don’t know if that’s true or not. I feel like maybe he’s leading people down a dangerous path.
A lot of people may lose a lot of money because of him.
Every civilized country on the planet regulates securities in the same manner.
Either you are registered with financial regulators or you are operating illegally.
Daisy AI is not registered anywhere because it’s a Ponzi scheme.
First and foremost potential victims should be concerned that math guarantees the majority of Ponzi investors lose money. Whether the SEC shuts down your scam or not is secondary.
found this also: youtu.be/WBLeaLLu2BQ
I cant find the adresses on their sites anymore, where is the restaurant located?
So despite all the hype nonsense about Anna Becker and her aI gEnIuS!, Daisy AI is just another Jeremy Roma trading bot scam?
What’s the female equivalent of a Boris CEO?
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The provided Daisy AI corporate address is/was Tuval 30, Ramat Gan 5252242 Israel.
This is my go to site to check on scams!
Love how people love to impersonate Ari.
Another scam promoted by Shohan Bowala!
Coleen makes a reference to: financialcommission.org/dr-anna-becker-founder-sherpa/
A few checks on financial commission.org quickly reveals it is not a bona fide financial authority but a scam company set up to appear so. A check via companies house in uk reveals one of the companies is in fact a dissolved company.
I’m currently researching this project and found something that I’d like to share for consideration.
On the EndoTech website, in Anna Becker’s profile on the about page, they mention a book, Bayesian networks (ASIN: B005X5AYC6) of which Anna Becker is a co-author.
This book is available on Amazon in French, Anna Becker is also listed as author (click the ‘& 1 more’ link).
One of the other authors is Patrick Naïm, who is also on LinkedIn.
I have approached him via LinkedIn messaging and asked him about Anna Becker, sent him some links and asked him if he could identify the person as Anna Becker.
Below is his reply:
My thoughts are what some random on LinkedIn says has nothing to do with Anna Becker, Daisy AI and EndoTech committing securities fraud.
Legitimacy via association isn’t a thing. If you’re committing fraud it is what it is.
Yes Jeremy Roma is pushing this hard.
Acording to him Endotech reached out to him and they came up with the referalprogram together.
I only checked one of the adresses on the endotech webpage, had to dig a little in my search history but i searched for this adress. Sigalit 8, Ness Ziona, Israel
Im pretty sure this was the only Israeli adress listed, there was also one for an international office which im pretty sure was in the uk. But i found another in the us from some other page but i cant find it again.
It seems you are basing some of what you say on the assumption that they don’t have a trading bot.
While it may not be a primary source, I know at least 2 people who are in contact with companies and people who have and are using Endotech’s bot to trade.
Heck, even Gemini, the crypto exchange, lists Endotech in their trusted institutions: gemini.com/institutions
Contrary to other scams of the sort, the trades positions will be transparent and verifiable, so trades are happening. And you didn’t mention in the article that 50 %of one’s deposit will go in the trading bot’s pool, and 70% of profitable trades will be earned by participants.
And unlike other scams, they don’t have 99.9% positive trades. But they are overall in the green. It’s only people with a million-dollar budget who could get access to the bot before.
One other thing, you say the packages are paid in tether, this is not true. It will be paid in TRX and using the Tron blockchain.
And this is a recent article praising the project, from a reputable source: (Ozedit: spam removed)
Your research is is complete B.S Dr. Anna Becker also helps the U.S government to shut down scam companies, so if this were to be a scam she’d have to shut her billion dollar company down.
lmfao so do yourself a favor and pay yourself on the back for to knowing what you are talking about.
Actually you’re assuming there is a trading bot. Daisy AI has failed to prove it has a trading bot by filing legally required audited financial reports with regulators.
There is no reason for an MLM to commit securities fraud. The only reason it happens is when the company isn’t doing what it claims to be.
Also the existence of a bot isn’t evidence of external revenue being used to pay withdrawals. Bullshit stats provided in your scam backoffice are also not evidence of external revenue being used to pay withdrawals.
There is no substitute for legally required audited financial reports.
Legitimacy via association isn’t a thing. What Gemini links or doesn’t link to has nothing to with EndoTech and Daisy AI committing securities fraud because they are running a Ponzi scheme.
Literally paid marketing spam:
Please don’t try to pass off scam spam as independent media interest. And again, legitimacy via association isn’t a thing.
That’s a change they’ve made since I published the review. I’ll add an update, thanks.
1. Prove it.
2. This has nothing to do with Daisy AI and EndoTech committing securities fraud because they are running a Ponzi scheme.
Regulators shut down Ponzi schemes. Scam owners exit-scam with your money.
Sorry for your loss.
If the bot was real and can make those great returns on investment then the people that run it would never need new people to invest. They could just become wealthy off of their own investment.
Since it’s an mlm with a matrix comp plan and you need a VPN to join in the usa and because of my first point. It is a scam ponzu scheme.
It is a bit odd but, it is not a Ponzi scheme.
I am familiar with this MLM investment structure and your desire to completely offset the hype with your own lying hype is not fair.
Rather than call it a Ponzi scheme, explain what it really is and explain that a 3 x 10 forced matrix just might be very difficult to follow and if you don’t follow what is necessary to make money then you most likely will not make money.
You are lying when you call this a Ponzi scheme and the DAISY marketers are overhyping. Why do you feel it necessary to lie?
Seriously, you seem to be smart enough not to have to lie to get your point across
Daisy AI isn’t a Ponzi scheme because it uses a matrix, it’s a Ponzi scheme because new investment is used to pay returns.
The MLM side of Daisy AI makes it a pyramid scheme because there is no retail.
Nothing worse than an ignorant know-it-all who, in fact, knows nothing.
i think too for this project is ot goigno away, but the endotech bot are functional and the profits are reale.
about daisy i’m not so excited but the earn is variable depending the daily trading revenue from the bot.
i think that this networkers buyed like other people endotech’s license and they wnated launch a business like they know… with MLM system.
at the end i want to know the information you told about anna becker and the team, because you badmouth about they but you don’t provide any information that support your argument.
Cool. Prove it with audited financial reports.
Well yeah, if you don’t read the review and ignore the facts. Sure.
Total scam. 5 months max. Bye bye Daisy scam.
The same people supporting this Ponzi are the same people that said Bitclub Network was not a Ponzi.
I know a matrix comp plan does not make it a ponzi scheme but companies that use a matrix are scammy.
If you have to tell your friends to join but only invest money they don’t mind losing then it’s a scam.
Wow…I am so confused about this all. I have recruited several people tti do this and now I am skeptical.
I have just been looking for more information and ran across this.
So if we pull out our money before the 2 months, do you think we will be ok OR is just the mer investment going to flop.
Your money is gone the second you invest. What you’re asking is whether there’ll still be new suckers recruited after you to steal from.
All MLM Ponzi schemes collapse when recruitment tanks. Unless you have a group of morons under you giving you money in every scam you promote, gambling on when that happens is idiotic.
Well. I did not know this was a Ponzi so now I have to get my money back and advise my team.
Thank you because I am a single mom and I was praying for this to work to better our lives.
Also, I don’t steal from anyone. I only showed people the opportunity.
Like I said your money is gone. Any money you “get back” will be stolen from someone else.
Welcome to the reality of MLM Ponzi schemes.
Things ain’t looking too promising in d.AI.s.y. Nation
I have an acquaintance who’s been trying to sell me on the idea of investing in D.AI.SY but I read your review and the subsequent comments and told him that I decided to pass without going into much detail.
He responded by sending me an IBT article (which I won’t link) by a Thomas Herd which seems to be a paid promotional article rather than objective analysis.
Thomas Herd seems legit but his primary CV credit is digital marketing so….? Any thoughts Oz? I really respect your analysis. Thanks!
I addressed a Daisy AI scammer trying to pass the IBT paid marketing as legit coverage in #29 above.
Your gut instinct was correct.
It’s a bit of a mystery to me why they are trying to raise money from small investors, starting at $100 a pop, considering they already own all the money in the world, and then some. According to their own numbers.
states that their AI bot generates an average annual return of 814.2%. That must be the average over the years they’ve been trading, so since 2012.
Let’s assume they started trading on January 1st, 2012, with a very modest starting capital of only $100,000.
After nine years of making 814.2% a year on that, as of December 21st, they would be worth $44,603,706,824,426.
Which is considerably more than the world’s total narrow money supply, and about ten times the total amount of money in circulation in physical coins and banknotes, worldwide. So you may not have noticed it yet, but Endotech already owns all the money in the world.
Quite a remarkable feat for a company that operates out of a restaurant basement, and is run as a sideline by a guy who until recently only sold antennas.
Passingby, I love your astute observation!!!
I, seriously, had about $6,000+ which I intended to sink into this venture until I discovered this site.
THANK YOU, OZ!!!! I am so very grateful!
I am still on their private boards, and the $100 donors feel they will be making hundreds of thousands of dollars in a matter of days.
Only a few people have dared question the scheme, and the masses are simply shocked the rest of us don’t want to become overnight millionaires!
Again, I am enjoying the comments on this site. It truly gives me a peace regarding my change of mind!
I just feel badly for those (often those most in need of their funds) who are going to be left high and dry and sorely disillusioned.
Repeating again, thank you, Oz, for doing all of your due diligence!
Thanks for the support!
German serial scammer Joerg Wittke, well known from BitClub and Jubilee Ace is on board with at least 81 Accounts in his downline.
Great developers: the famous technology does not work with a simple binance wallet.
These victims and scammers never learn. It’s the same recycled ponzi schemes that wait for Peter to put up his money so that some of it can be paid to Paul.
Then they wait for Paul to put up his money so that some of it can be paid to Suzy.
Wash, rinse, and repeat.
Has nothing to do with trading cryptocurrencies.
Meanwhile, the ponzi owner/runner is investing most of that money skimmed off the victims to trade the currencies for his/her own benefits/gains.
I noticed you started this discussion way before Christmas and this project was initially meant to launch somewhere around the 24th of December but for some strange reasons it was pushed to the 4th of January 2021, and again for some strange reasons it was put on hold until further notice.
I now know the reason why, thank you OZ, this has been busted before it even started.
You have saved millions of people our there who were ready to pump in thousands into this DAISY, what a good name spoilt by greedy scammers.
WOW! I was just presented this by a friend and was on the verge of pouring cash in.
Read your breakdown and all the comments. No go with me. Thank you!
I just got off the line after speaking to a guy who was promoting this opportunity but at the same time was warning me to do my own research.
Thankfully, sharing the presentation with a few friends lead me to do my research and I am thankful to all the comments here.
Staying safe with my money – however small it may be.
Daisy was supposed to launch today at 10 am Pacific time. The system crashed and the launch failed.
The payment system they are using is Tron link using Tron cryto currency. It is a complicated system for regular people that have never dealt in crypto.
Can’t even set up a basic website with a Ponzi script.
bUt No WoRrIeS gUyS wE aRe Ai TrAdInG gEnIusEs LuLz!
Who said the owner has to invest the skimmed / stolen funds anywhere?
That wouldn’t be the smart thing to do would it?
This made me snort laugh!!!!
The vast majority don’t bother. For good reasons: it’s a pretty universal rule that the small minority of Ponzi operators who do try and run some genuine interest-earning scheme with the money they’re stealing, show themselves to be disastrously bad at it.
Bernie Madoff was smart enough never to do any trading at all. He simply kept all the money that came in a single bank account, on which he wrote checks when people wanted to withdraw.
When he personally came into some extra money through an inheritance, he didn’t even invest it in the shares he pretended to be trading, he bought some boring, safe, fixed-return Treasury paper. (He couldn’t do that with his investors’ money of course: he needed to keep that liquid so he could always pay withdrawals.)
The first Ponzi I ever followed the news about, and which started my interest in the subject, was that of a man called Reed Slatkin.
His case was very amusing, because he almost exclusively ripped off his fellow Scientologists, all of whom consider themselves to be much more intelligent than mere “wogs” (the derogatory term Scientologists use for non-Scientologists).
He actually dabbled in the stock market for real (although speculating on entirely different shares than the ones he lied about dealing in to his investors).
The trustee commented in his final report that if only Slatkin had put all the money he got in a standard savings account instead, there’d have been considerably more left for him to recover.
A lot of the money hadn’t even been stolen, it had simply evaporated through his disastrous share trading.
One is also reminded of Mirror Trading International: the only demonstrable forex trading they ever engaged in, for a brief while right at the start of the scheme, according to their broker at the time resulted in huge losses.
Awkward dinner table conversations for Australian-Greek Scientologists hey…
That one was lost on me, but Wikipedia to the rescue. In Australia, “wog” is a derogatory term for (among others) a person of southern European appearance or ethnicity, like the Greeks.
Thank you Oz. Now I know how to insult people on a whole new continent. Whee!
Interestingly, the endotech-daisy web site offers a WhatsApp number that according to countrycodeguide
which belongs to Australia.
+61 is Australia-wide. No legit reason for scammers in Israel to be using an AU WhatsApp number.
Oz why don’t you give an objective review about Daisy?
Like it’s easy to say that something is a scam but yet you’re not providing and references to back your talk. Post some links.
You said the same thing about hyperfund which so far seems legit. (Ozedit: derail removed)
I just put in a token sum to see how far this goes… lol.
Why? I already did, you’re commenting on it.
Provide links to what? When I was researching this the scammers hadn’t even set up a website yet.
Daisy AI’s compensation plan and committing securities fraud makes it a Ponzi scheme.
You can go find links to the Securities and Exchange Act and what not if you need them.
Oh, you think “bUt I’m GeTtInG pAiD!” is due-diligence. Sorry for your loss.
Did some research found Rabu from Fb group has made over a million since Daisy launch. Not sure how many people are above him though, in this matrix.
Last time I checked over 21 million had been put into the matrix since it’s launch. Most people are getting small returns less then 5% of original investment.
Another thing I have noticed the wallet they are required to use is changing for deposits. So believe this is a huge marketing scheme by a couple companies.
(Ozedit: derail removed) My only issue with your review is how you portray Dr. Beecker. You said you didn’t cite her other professional accomplishments because it didn’t relates to this.
When you’re investing money everything someone has done relates to it. She does have an impressive background and that’s not hard to find on the internet. (Ozedit: snip, more derails removed)
Becker is a scammer running a Ponzi scheme. Her background doesn’t change this fact.
Legitimacy via association isn’t a thing. If you wish to discuss bitcoin or anything other than Daisy AI committing securities fraud because it’s a Ponzi scheme, do it somewhere else.
And if you wish to make claims about what Daisy AI is or isn’t doing, prove it with legally required audited financial reports.
They don’t exist, because Daisy AI is a Ponzi scheme.
“Cryptoqueen” Ruja Ignatova had an impressive academic background. Now she’s in hiding (or sleeping with the fishes) and her OneCoin Ponzi scam has imploded.
Elizabeth Holmes graced the covers of major financial magazines (and unlike with Ignatova, they were not paid ads). She gave a TED talk on her company’s amazing, ground-breaking technology.
She hired a board of directors who were a who’s-who of movers and shakers, including two former US Secretaries of State.
Her company once had a valuation of $9 billion (with a “b”), and she owned half of it. Look up “Theranos” to see how that worked out.
These and many other similar stories (read about Bernie Madoff sometime) are why Oz repeatedly reminds everyone that legitimatacy by association is not a thing.
Very well-said, Amos_N_Andy.
I am surprised more people aren’t commenting. From what I’ve heard, 55 thousand people joined D.AI.SY in the first four days.
Now, they are planning relaunch 2.0 with a reset of their 48-hour spillover and 30-day goals. They predict millions will join, and ALL errors will now be non-existent when it comes to registering, getting paid, etc.
Also, what are people’s thoughts on this article???
Ars Technica: Treasury nominee Yellen is looking to curtail use of cryptocurrency.
Relaunch = Ponzi already collapsed. The suckers in it will keep quiet because they’re hoping to scam people through the relaunch.
Re. that article, heavier regulation of rampant MLM crypto securities fraud is welcome.
A message from Daisy
I’m so glad I read this I always search online for reviews it was hard to find but I did.
I was considering on joining the videos well done I thought but I had such a hard time finding anything on this.
I’ve fallen prey to this crap before snd have been badly burned in the past. Thanks for the review I almost bought into it.
If you don’t want to be burned again, remember this:
Never, ever join a system where you are offered a daily, weekly, or even monthly return on your investment. They are ALWAYS scams. Always.
If you are offered a reward for recruiting others into the system, it’s even worse. Run far, far away.
Whether they offer cash, tokens, altcoins, whatever, they are always scams. You don’t even need to look them up.
How can YOU make the most of this time before Go Live to massively increase your earning capacity?
BY KEEPING YOUR MONEY IN YOUR POCKET.
LOL!!!! Great advice!
I paid into Daisy a few weeks ago, I am assuming I cannot get my money back at this point?
I was waiting for the launch and they keep pushing it back.
Maybe, maybe not, if you are lucky and can get your money out – do so.
And then never pay your money into another obvious Ponzi again.
My parents got scammed by this and I’m honestly devastated for them.
I tried telling them not to get pulled into something like this because they would just be in way over their heads.
They of course have been working nonstop and have had hard lives and just wanted the best for our family so they were easy targets.
>_< It honestly breaks my heart because it’s always the people who are so incredibly desperate who throw caution to the wind and end up believing in these types of scams.
No matter how much my gut was telling me it wasn’t legit, they just wanted to believe in it.
Thankfully I did some research and found this site and your post has made them see the light, thank you so much for all your research.
I was able to stop them from investing more money into it to get to the higher levels.
It’s disgusting though because my mom was telling me that there are a lot of elderly or extremely desperate people in the group she was in who don’t know enough about these types of things and then get sucked into it at the thought of having an easier life.
It just breaks my heart and I hope even more people find out about your site and don’t make the same mistake again.
Again thank you very much!
our life was ruined by this scam.. i tried to stop my family into entering this way back december but they still waited for it to have it’s launch and invested the money that should’ve been used to pay our BILLS!
and now we’re basically finished.. we have no money left to save us… we’re full of debt.. and about to lose our electricity this february..
i hope a miracle could happen and someone could save us 🙁
i have 0 trust in their so called ”reLaunch” not only that we don’t even have any time left to wait for it to happen 🙁
That’s heartbreaking!!! I so wish you could have found this website earlier…..
Zero trust is the correct amount. They are only trying to string their victims along with false hopes. This can go one of two ways:
1. A relaunch happens, and some of the victims part with more of their hard-earned money and never see a dime in return. Maybe a few more suckers get roped in.
Oz calls these events “reboots,” because they are basically restarts of the same scams. They rarely last long before collapsing again.
This scenario can repeat multiple times; usually each relaunch lasts less time than the previous one.
2. The relaunch never happens. The launch date gets pushed out repeatedly, so long as the scammers can play it out and rope in more victims, most of whom are thinking they are getting in on the “ground floor” of some wonderful new enterprise.
To learn more, go to the search window at the top of this page and look for “reboot.”
For an extreme example of scenario #2, look for “OnPassive.” (OnPassive wasn’t a reboot per se, but its promised launch date has been pushed out many times, and plenty of victims still believe they’re going to get rich off of it.)
For your family’s sake, I hope they have taken this hard life’s lesson to heart.
Remember: if it sounds too good to be true, IT IS. Best of luck; I’m so sorry for your loss.
Any re-launch yet?????
EndoTech doesn’t need to run their own opp now. They collecting fees from iGenius investors.
Was going to invest in this but it’s way to complicated for me but looking like a scam with all these delay will take a pass now after seeing this site.
These articles are pointless because people “dumb” or “smart” are going to do what they want to do.
If they want to risk their money for a “possible” nice reward, then so be it. It’s no different than going to the Casino and gambling. (Ozedit: derails removed)
1. If these reviews were pointless you wouldn’t be here shilling your Ponzi.
2. Ponzi schemes have nothing to do with casinos or gambling. Ponzi schemes are illegal and mathematically guarantee you’ll lose money to admins and scammers who invested before you.
They got a white paper now so a shitcoin/token on the way…
I am/was doing due diligence on DAISY AI. Behind MLM saved me from a huge mistake with Beurax–THANK YOU!
I hope I can help inform as many people as possible about the DAISY AI ponzi scheme BEFORE they steal money from millions of unsuspecting people!
DAISY AI had a “soft” launch in January 2021. According to what I saw on a replay of a webinar supposedly done in Dubai last week, more than 50,000 people were signed up by the “leaders” included in the “soft” launch.
More than US$1 million were paid in as of last week. I have links to the webinar replay and the SlideShare deck.
They are planning a major launch in mid March. No doubt hundreds of thousands of people will be pulled into this scam as there are likely hundreds of so called “leaders” ramping up to promote it! Many fresh out of Beurax!
What can be done to slow down and/or stop these crooks? Their pitch is VERY enticing and they are pushing it hard as a long term play!
By the way they are funding via TRON wallets with USDT only, which has its own issues.
I wish I had found this website sooner! I just got burned with Beurax. Thank goodness it wasn’t a lot of money.
I also joined Forsage before the first of the year not knowing what that was totally about and the recruiting aspect of it. I invested a few thousand there. Live and learn.
A friend tried to get me into D.AI. SY and I was like no thanks! I’m good.
Fresh burns from Beurax like many. I thought I was smart enough to get out before the crash. I wasn’t.
D.AI.SY is just another pile of crap. Just buy crypto from a real exchange and hold it. Do your research on any crypto and use sites like tradingview to learn about the technicals of any stock or crypto.
Good luck to all and be smarter than I!
FYI… Team Valknut is a group of MLM freaks that will try to get you into any Ponzi Scheme they can.
Cory Reynolds seems to be their leader in arms. If I ever find this guy I will get my money back straight from him.
Cory Reynolds was the one who tried to scam me into Beurax as well! He has been involved in the DAISY/ENDOTECH scam/ponzi scheme from the beginning and will profit big time when/if it “relaunches” between now and March 21st!
Reynolds lives in or near Sherwood Park Alberta Canada according to info discovered.
From what has been learned he had a network of about 1500 people who “invested” (and LOST) more than US$3M in Beurax! Reynolds withdrew BIG money out of Beurax before it crashed and has already profited from DAISY! He is shameless and in tight with Jeremy Roma and Mo Kumarsi.
PLEASE get the word out to EVERYONE you know who may be in or considering this DAISY scam.
There is no real company behind it since, in their words, it is a blockchain “smart contract” totally anonymous and can not be modified once activated so everyone is secure (A TOTAL LIE!).
Even though the disclaimer on every one of their presentation pages says “not available in the US” thousands of their victims live in the US and are told to use a VPN to bypass US access restrictions to access the daisy.global back office.
Some info suggests government regulators in the US, UK, EU & Israel are at least aware of and investigating the DAISY/ENDOTECH ponzi scam.
Hopefully they are successful in stoping it from relaunching and catch the scammers!
Sooooo, today is the 27th. I thought the re-re-relaunch was to occur by the 22nd or 23rd. Has anyone heard an update?????
DAISY RE-LAUNCH UPDATE:
Daisy “re-launched” today (March 30th) for existing members to upgrade their Tiers at 4:00A EDT.
New members were suppose to be able to register & upgrade their Tiers starting at 10:00A EDT.
However, that has been delayed until 4:00P EDT as of the time of this post. There must have been some issue that caused the 6 hour delay.
Hopefully everyone reading this stays clear of this scam!
FROM DAISY OFFICIAL “HYPE” COMMUNICATIONS CHANNEL:
DAISY RE-LAUNCH UPDATE 2:
Daisy became available for new victims to register and upgrade tiers at 4:00P EDT today March 30th (6 hours later than originally announced). However, new members are only able to purchase Tiers 1-4 at present. They are doing “maintenance” on Tier 5 and say upgrades to Tier 5 and higher should be available within 12 hours.
Jeremy Roma sent a message to leaders saying 10,000 new members joined in the first 10 minutes of the re-launch.
PLEASE KEEP YOUR MONEY IN YOUR POCKET AND AVOID GETTING STUNG BY THE DAISY PONZI SCAM!
Translation: someone screwed up preloading admin and top recruiter positions so they need a bit more time.
OMG I just put $300 there yesterday !!! Any chance I get recover something at least ? 🙁
Sure. As a responsible investor you know exactly who you transferred your $300 to right?
Just ask them for it back. No worries.
Beeing scammers, will they refund me ?
Why did you transfer $300 to scammers?
Ponzi scammers want to keep the illusion alive as long as they can extract as much as they wanted, so sometimes they’ll refund(if enough other suckers join) or continue paying out for a time.
So the short answer is – they might.
Because I did not make proper research here and was advised that this would be big. One learns from mistakes, right ?
Right. Be they scammers or otherwise though, being a responsible investor you know who you transferred your $300 to?
Just ask them for refund.
I’m almost sure it’s lost. It was paid automatically via tronlink interacting with a smart contract.
I should have known better… Thanks for the support.
Has or will anyone make an money on this?
tried to undertand how the tiers and spillovers work way to complicated for me.
Everyone on FB seem to buying but not understanding what?
MLM Ponzi scheme = admins, early investors and top recruiters steal money.
Everyone else (you and your friends on FB) = sorry for you loss.
DAISY RE-LAUNCH UPDATE 3:
“Maintenance” on the Tier 5 smart contract was finally completed at 10:03A EDT today (March 31st) after MULTIPLE push backs starting at about 10:00A EDT yesterday at re-launch for new victims.
It appears the entire 10 Tier (each with its own 3X10 forced matrix) Daisy pyramid scheme is now open to suck in misinformed people.
PLEASE NOTE: If you or anyone you know & care about is promoting Daisy (in the US in particular) you would do well to consult with an attorney who is experienced in securities fraud and/or International financial law.
I have done so and shared the info with people I care about!
I am glad I only put $100 in just to test it out. This has been a fiasco from the start.
I never got my downline put into this site. Certainly a disaster.
Walter – why on earth would you put in “$100 to test it out”.
That’s like saying “I’ll only put my hand in the fire for 10 seconds”.
Can you not see you have just handed over an easy $100 to fraudsters? Basically you are encouraging criminal activity. Stop it!
Tony, would you mind elaborating a bit more regarding your comment about consulting an attorney?
The information truly is for a friend….. the man who tried to get me involved, and who plans to be at Level 9 within the next 30 days!
I must admit…. I look at him differently now, knowing he is making money off the backs of so many who are being ripped off and fed a bill of goods!!!
An attorney will just tell you “yeah, it’s an obvious scam, and you should report your friend to the police”. They’re not going to do anything else, it’s none of their business.
Doesn’t matter whether they’re experienced in securities law or international financial law or not, even a third-rate conveyancer will be able to understand why Daisy is a scam. So can the average fishwife with no legal knowledge whatsoever.
If you really need convincing that Daisy is a scam and have a bit of a problem with authority-worship, then it may be worthwhile to get an attorney to tell you the same thing that anyone who isn’t a scammer will also tell you.
But it would be much wiser to start trusting the facts instead of what people with law degrees tell you. Trusting authority over facts is how people fall for scams.
@Carol, the bottom line of the opinion I received from the attorney who took a close look at Daisy & Endotech is that ANYONE promoting Daisy to anyone in the US in particular can be persecuted for securities fraud. This likely applies to other jurisdictions as well.
@Malthusian by getting a legal opinion I was able to stop (or at least delay) several people I care about from doing what @Carol’s friend is doing.
It was the only way to get their attention because they were so blinded by the Daisy hype & misinformation.
@OZ, thank you for writing this “Daisy AI Review: EndoTech launches securities fraud opp” review!
Everything your wrote back in December 2020 and your comments since are right on target! It helped me avoid this Ponzi scam and I continue to hope it helps many more people as well!
They put this money stealing to a new level looks like: prnt.sc/111ok2g
LASTLY!!!!! IN 48 HOURS DAISY HAS DONE ANOTHER 50M IN CROWD FUNDING, BREAKING EVERY RECORD IN THE HISTORY OF PEER TO PEER MARKETING!!!!!! LETS REACH THAT 1B IN 120 DAYS!!
(Boy….someone is certainly lining their pockets!!!)
I decided to do it because a bunch in my downline were getting all hyped up about it and were going to jump in.
I was hesitant and told them let me do it first to test it out and see what happens. I dont care losing 100 bucks.
This turned out to be a good thing because it probably saved a few thousand dollars from others.
Please take the time to view this presentation. She outlines the expected return when investing with Daisy.
Average: 250%. Best: 500%
(This was sent to me regarding Anna’s most recent video…..I can’t get the link to post, though.)
I doubt people will get 20% back on their initial investment..
If there’s any Smart Contract program that has been very honest with their promises and transparent in their actions, it’s Daisy
The amount which goes into the crowdfunding aspect is clearly stated. The amount which goes into trading too is clearly stated. Twice, Dr Anna has shown live trading in Binance which corresponds exactly with what is shown on members dashboard. Trades are also audited by independent bodies
This certainly is not a Ponzi scheme, I know one when I see it
Bullshit. If Daisy AI was honest they’d be upfront about running a Ponzi scheme in which the majority of participants would lose money. And you wouldn’t be here lying about Daisy AI not being a Ponzi scheme.
Not withstanding neither Daisy AI or EndoTech are registered to offer securities in any jurisdiction. This is the play of scammers, not HoNeSt AnD tRaNsPaReNt companies.
Calling a Ponzi scheme crowdfunding is pseudo-compliance. Still a Ponzi scheme.
There is no trading. Still a Ponzi scheme.
Social media marketing is not a substitute for filed audited financial reports. Still a Ponzi scheme.
Nope. Not a single audited filing with a single financial regulator. Still a Ponzi scheme.
Time for a visit to the optometrist. There’s a good chance you’re blind.
Greed can do that to certain people.
Have you seen anything on the “undefined error” story?
Were supposedly a member named their wallet undefined error and so was getting the referrals from people coming in? And as a solution to this they “cut” the account and proposed donating the stolen money to charity?
Idk about you but how on earth is that not fishy as hell?
Like. If you found stolen money from a “member of the community” and have taken control of the account and can now decide were the momey goes then
1. What is to stop you, who apparently has the power to freeze and distribute momey from any account, from doing that to everyone’s account? And
2. If you habe the stolen money then WHY NOT GIVE IT BACK TO THE PEOPLE WHO IT WAS STOLEN FROM?! Why on earth would you even suggest giving it to charity?
Sounds like a novel way to skim off the top. dEcEnTrAlIzAtIoN!
This guy, Graham Laurie, (aka CashMaster) has put in over $100K into DAISY: youtube.com/watch?v=bAEg5-CUOGo
The Belgian FSMA issued a warning with regards to (among others) Endotech last week (fsma.be/en/warnings/watch-out-companies-offer-trading-software-expert-advisors).
Thanks for that. About time the EndoTech crackdown began.
Hi. Someone shared with me information about Daisy (yesterday) and I’ve started my own research.
Reading your post, in that sense, it’s an instrument to crowdfund an AI project…Endotech as a company manages the AI Project, and it seems the first thing is that Daisy is not a company, it’s a smart contract placed on Tron Blockchain, and y are using BOTs to invest the funds they are collecting through the smart contract (Daisy).
So, Endotech was founded in 2012, and the smart contract site started recently. This said I have some initial doubts.
I was as able to find the LinkedIn profile of Anna Becker and Dmitry Gooshchin without any problem. Obviously, it doesn’t mean it’s relevant for a decision…
Failures, well all entrepreneurs have their own failures inventory :-). Regarding the forced matrix… I need to make some numbers, at a first look I’m not very clear.
Anyway, there are 2 things that are warning in my head right now. I found the location zone but not the exact address of Endotech….
I also saw the traffic to the website mainly comes from Spain… I will continue with my research in order to get a better understanding…
This is as stupid as:
iT’s NoT aN mLm CoMpAnY, iT’s A cOmPeNsAtIoN pLaN!
MLM Ponzi schemes need new recruits or kaboom. Cue a matrix to pay commissions on recruitment.
How does one make a request to have initial deposit returned and account cancelled …
They sure do make it difficult to communicate with anyone….thanks.
Ponzi schemes don’t offer refunds for what should be obvious reasons.
Oz, was this response meant for Aka Wilfrid on the GSPartners thread? He asked about the ease of getting a credit card (I just responded myself).
Ah yeah it was. I must have hit reply on the wrong comment. Thanks!
I want my deposit back from this MLM scam…. all I see are events to recruit recruit and recruit…
If it was really what they say it is, there would be no GREAT NEED to recruit as they are now…. Very frustrating….
how the hell can I reach the company? This is a pure MLM company… and they seem to be hiding. Nothing more nothing less…
I will commence procedures right away to report them to authorities… unless they refund me 100%….
Thieves do not return money to victims unless forced to by the justice system. This happens in only a small percentage of scams because there are just too many thieves out there; the authorities lack the manpower to go after every scam.
Look up “reporting financial crime in [your country]” on Google and report Daisy to your local authorities. Just don’t count count on anything happening as a result; consider your money gone and move on.
Use this as an important life lesson: do not turn your money over to strangers, no matter how slick and charming they may seem.
Of course they will “seem” trustworthy; that’s what scammers do. But NO legitimate investment pays out on a daily basis. Or weekly, for that matter.
And if they promise returns that amount to more than a few percent per year, it’s a scam.
No one who can earn 3% per day needs or even wants outside investors. In 200 trading days, 3% daily return compounds to 370 times the initial investment. $10k would become $3.7 million in a year, and $1.36 BILLION in two years.
Why go through the hassle of setting up and running a complex MLM if you can invest your seed funding instead and become a billionaire in less than 2 years?
The answer is: you wouldn’t, so they are lying when they say they can pay 3% per day.
(Oz calls this “failing the Ponzi sniff test,” because it’s so obvious they are just paying 3% per day to early investors from newly-invested funds.
It’s called a sniff test because you don’t need to pick up a turd and examine it to know it’s a turd; you can smell it from far away.)
Sorry for your loss.
Glad to help! You might want to nuke #s 133 and 134 (and this one) since they no longer have context. Cheers!
AMOZ appreciate your reply and totally agree with all that was written….Cheers !!!
If you know names of recruiters or higher ups, report them to the authorities.
Find as many people as you can in the same boat, try to convince authorities to do some digging.
It’s a SCAM, Whole your deposit will be taken from you automatically. Fake figures will appear.
It every Legit company you can withdraw your deposit at any time – here not, you can only add.
Stay away from them as they are fake and big time SCAM Crowd.
Its a SCAM big time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stay away….Put your money directly in crypto’ intead of these bozzos…you have been warned 😉
Michael Faust happily putting his face on video for yet another scam he’s involved with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vatkDKE9lU
Anyone else interacted with Edward Wingate?
I tried to upload my message history with an investor/Ponzi scheme recruiter based in Australia, but I don’t think this site liked the size and it is lost.
Email me at (removed) and I’ll send you screenshots of our conversation history on LinkedIn.
This guy was shady af and some of the content in the emails could be of value to you.
He name drops other people in the organisation, and goes into detail around the nature of the scheme and how he would profit of a $25k hedge from me.
…which I said as a gag to rile the guy up.
He also called me and, after I rejected this, called me “a fucking smart arse”.
Contact form link is on the top right of every page.
Can’t promise anything but I’m happy to go over information sent in. If it’s relevant I’ll likely put an article together around it.
edit: It got picked up by the spam filter. Gimme a sec to go through it.
OK, thanks for sharing that. Interesting read. Not really something I’d put an article together around though.
This stood out to me:
That’s complete bullshit. This guy is representing he has a finance background?
EndoTech is illegal in the US because it’s an unregistered securities offering. Thing is EndoTech isn’t registered to offer securities in any jursidiction, so at a base level it’s operating illegally around the world.
This has nothing to do with “margin lending” or any other nonsense excuses.
Should have asked Edward for audited financial reports. If he has a finance background he’ll know any company offering securities is legally required to provide them.
DAISY is a MLM company PERIOD !!!!!!! I should have known better…
But it’s not the first time and luckily I never put in more than I can afford to lose…
What other company does not give you an opportunity to ask questions to the principles while they keep promoting the hell out of this????
I would like nothing more but to see these people pay for what they are doing…I will stick to my crypt portfolio moving forward …Cheers !!!
Wow!! It’s amazing on how many views everyone has… one saying you can only put money in and not getting it out another saying will last 3 months tops!
I’ve been n this since it’s started I’ve made money I continue making money I’ve taken money out…so sorry you all feel the way you do!!
I’m excited it’s grown crazy and on top we now have our own token!! Pretty awesome… and it’s just getting started
And so it begins…
Thanks for the update.
I would never put money into a system that is advertised by the well-known OneCoin scammer Dusan Torbica from Serbia with his own link:
A quick look into the past. The following screenshot shows the OneCoin scammers Dusan Torbica, Konstantin Ignatov and Igor Krnic from left to right (with arrows):
MAJOR SCAM !!!!! STAY AWAY .. They are all a piece of shit…. especially the one always moderating the updates…. his smile alone tells me he is a pure scammer…
I wonder how these individuals can live with what they do knowingly scamming others for their benefits…
It appears the “exit scam” for Daisy AI may be approaching! Traffic to the website has been dropping pretty significantly.
Interested to know on this forums perception of D.AI.SY now.
They’ve just launched their Forex project which is a highly regulated market and so does this now offer some validation?
Securities fraud with crypto is the same as securities fraud with forex.
MLM + securities fraud = scam
SCAM !!!! PERIOD !!!!!
Damn, you are so on point about Zeniq and Daisy, why can’t you see the value in CFX? I know “it’s too good to be true.”
LOL I almost like you now. LOL I called those scams out when they first launched also.
(Ozedit: derails removed)
There’s no difference between Zeniq, Daisy and CashFX Group. Nothing that’s not superficial dressing, they’re all Ponzi schemes.
Same underlying business model of come up with a bullshit ruse and steal money from people who invest after you.
Classic case of “everyone loves BehindMLM, until we review your scam”.
You mean Jeremy Roma? Oh man indeed, here’s a guy to hate everything about. Always overhyped, always overexcited, snake oil salesman pur sang.
Their “super intelligent AI trading” has been performing extremely poorly by the way.
Total, total BS scam.
The Daisy coin AND the Uplift coin are now at .12cents. It opened and went up to $8 then straight down for the next 6 months.
Everyone thought this coin would make them millionaires but they CANT cash it in.
They are also getting worthless Endotech stock for WHEN THEY GO PUBLIC., which will be NEVER.
Thank you. I am still doing research on this program. I wonder how can scam or Ponzi scheme can run for this long.
I also found their registration of 2012:
Certificate of incorporation != date Daisy AI was launched.
Also Daisy AI collapsed unless I’m mistaken, or they rebooted it.
Oz, they are still going. I have MANY friends being scammed by Angel Lee, who spent time in jail already for fraud.
The worthless coin is at .02 cents, it goes up slightly when they make a big recruiting push. I’m guessing they are close to $50m by now and pushing hard.
I passed when I was told you need a VPN because it’s illegal in the US and you have to use TRON which is also garbage.
Most have no idea what it’s really about or how it works, they are just recruiting and don’t care. Very sad, people are going to lose thousands, some hundreds of thousands.
Paying people in stock still for when they go public, sure, like that will happen. Now touring that Earnst and Young are auditing them.
EY is just as bad, last year they paid $100m fine for fraud they committed.
There is a great video going through the scam I’ll find it and post it as well. God help all of these people.
Here is the video that goes through the scam… youtu.be/41Wn7m5JQoY
Thanks. I’ll have a look tomorrow and report back.
edit: I have to watch a YT video from “turdgurl”… seriously? FML.
So I got around to watching today. This has already been covered on BehindMLM.
The link between EndoTech and iGenius is covered in BehindMLM’s iGenius review.
The linked video is from 5 months ago and I made it as far as [6:13].
It would appear that Daisy is still a thing.
Wes Garner and Lisa Marie Holt, long term scammers and terrible people, are promoting it.
Apparently Daisy are sponsoring the whole of the Vietnamese football league according to Wes.
In reality it seems its a small tournament they have set up.
They are flying out to Vietnam for the Daisy Dragan League, it starts on the 2nd January.
It seems that a fair few have signed up, one bragging about how she has invested £20k and is showing numbers on screen going up.
I don’t speak fluent Ponzi so I am not too sure about why numbers go up on screen, think it may still be a trading bot, but they will all be very rich soon. They have already made lots of money but are keeping it there for 8 months before withdrawing.
I thought they were still waiting for launch when it died yet here we are two years later.
Two years of reports of people who lost lots of money and people are still falling for it.
I do usually feel a little bit bad for people who fall for this but with all the information there is on Daisy I just have a stunned expression on my face.
I learned over the holidays that my father-in-law has “invested” over $100k in this Daisy thing and is planning to go to Dubai in a few months.
He has a spreadsheet showing numbers going up at close to 4.5% return per week. Sounded about 10 times too good to be true, so I did a little digging and found your website – thank you!
I did go to the daisyapp website and watched some of their Forex AI presentation dated Oct. 2022. Near the beginning of the video the presenter speed-reads a lengthy disclaimer.
In the disclaimer it states, “Not available in all countries including the US.” My question is whether my FIL is breaking any laws by using a VPN to access this app or if he encourages others in the US to the do the same?
Thank you for the work you put into this site… clearly law enforcement/regulatory agencies don’t have the time and resources to cover all these MLM “opportunities.”
I’ve never heard of anyone getting in trouble for using a VPN to access one of these scams. Lousing their entire investment is common but that isn’t what you asked.
Its a fucking scam….how do I know….I have been in it for over 1 year and have seen absolutely no progress at all….
STAY AWAY YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED…. P E R I O D !!!!!
I’ve been in D.AI.SY for over a year as well. Granted the Crypto side hasn’t performed as well as hoped but the Forex has massively delivered.
Only one pool of invested funds to pay out from.
That is from 2020 – But Daisy seems to be very active !!
Do you have more information ? In which sense is it collapsed ?
Daisy AI has collapsed a few times since launch. They keep rebooting and dums dums keep signing up to lose money.
Have been approached to participate…. found your site very interesting and wish to receive follow on comments on Daisy.