Daisy Forex collapses, reboots with EndoTech AI crypto grift
Just over a year after it launched, Daisy Global’s “Daisy Forex” has collapsed.
A third reboot of the Ponzi scheme has been announced, with EndoTech coming up with a new crypto AI trading grift.
Investments into Daisy Forex were locked earlier this year, following a decline in passive ROI payments.
This coincided with traffic to Daisy Global’s website collapsing:
With a reduction in new investment to keep the scam going, Daisy Global’s third reboot, simply dubbed “Daisy 2.0”, has been pushed back till September 1st.
In the meantime Daisy Forex investors are unable to get invested funds out.
On a July 1st Daisy Global webinar, founder Jeremy Roma told investors their Daisy Forex accounts would remain open until they posted a profit.
It’s expected the accounts will at some point be converted over to “Daisy 2.0” accounts after September.
In the meantime, Daisy Global is desperately trying to drum up new investors in South Africa, Europe and Asia.
Roma appears hesitant to hold any marketing events in the US and Canada, as these two countries have the most active financial regulators.
Daisy Global began as Daisy AI in 2020. The first iteration of Daisy Global’s Ponzi went through a long drawn out collapse, eventually culminating with a “daisy token” exit-scam in 2021.
In early 2022 Daisy Global launched “Daisy Forex”, which lasted more or less a year.
Daisy 2.0 sees Daisy Global return to its original crypto trading ruse – with a new Endotech AI trading grift.
EndoTech is run by Anna Becker and Dmitry Goohchin.
Originally EndoTech was represented to be operated out of Israel. Today there are no contact details provided on EndoTech’s website.
The money laundering side of EndoTech is believed to be run from Dubai.
The relationship between Daisy Global and EndoTech is not unlike the recently collapsed Traders Domain Ponzi scheme.
In addition to directly soliciting investment, Traders Domain had several smaller MLM Ponzi schemes also feed into it.
Investview, dba iGenius, is a US MLM company that feeds into EndoTech.
Investview has been under SEC investigation since at least early 2022.
The similarities between Traders Domain and EndoTech are unlikely to be a coincidence.
Behind its founders, Disgraced MLM veteran Holton Buggs was the top net-winner in the Traders Domain Ponzi scheme.
Buggs and Roma go way back to mushroom coffee MLM Organo Gold (now Organo).
Buggs and Roma began their transition to crypto fraud in 2018.
Buggs would go on to launch multiple MLM Ponzi schemes he fed into Traders Domain. Roma launched Daisy Global and feeds it into EndoTech.
Buggs’ Ponzi schemes collapsed in early 2023, following Traders Domain’s collapse in late 2022.
Daisy Global has collapsed twice already. Its third reboot hinges on how much longer EndoTech can keep its new AI trading bot ruse going.
Investment is currently being solicited into Daisy 2.0 on the promise of ~5% a week. Nothing will actually be paid out though till September.
Ponzi reboots typically don’t last as long as their predecessors. What that means for Daisy 2.0 though has yet to play out.
Roma does travel back to the US from time to time but is believed to spend most of his time hiding out in Dubai.
Update 12th December 2023 – Daisy’s EndoTech AI crypto trading reboot has collapsed.
Oh my how the mighty have fallen. My upline in Hyper brags about his amazing returns received from daisy.
He probably does withdraw a lot as he probably has a massive downline from the church he is affiliated with as well as all the people pulled over from hyper.
Will probably invest more too in daisy 2.0 as he is fully into ponzi schemes. makes a living off it, gets in early and starts withdrawing early. That is the game.
I think he may be directly under jeremy actually, so he got in before launch.
when I initially questioned jeremy;s integrity and was met with ” I think you are looking for guarantees”.
Hi there. How often can such a scheme collapse? 2 years ago it was Daisy coin exit (today uplift).
“According to Alexa traffic analysis, the number of visitors to Daisy AI’s website has likely been in decline. For a Ponzi scheme, this is the road to collapse.” (BehindMLM 2021)
As often as new investment runs dry.
It’s all bullshit except what is actually withdrawn, which is less and less with each reboot.
Saw this posted the other day…….
I think the second paragraph sideways range……. means tits up, and waiting for the next entry conditions means……. waiting for new suckers to join to replenish the empty pot lol.
When will people realize that there is no AI or trading bots in any of these schemes.
Might as well try your luck and place trades using your own capital on the open markets. Might as well lose your own money than allow some grifter to lose it on your behalf.
You may even get luck and win some. At least you will be in control and not some grifter who is skimming the cream off the top of everyone’s accounts and living the life up in dubai with your capital.
Maybe they could try subscribing to Holton Bugg’s Ibuumerang Ellev8 trading platform for $179 a month. I mean what could possibly go wrong lol.
I swear, it seems like every other scam I read about on here, always involves the usual crooks like Jeremy Roma, Holton Buggs and Rabu Gary who’s touting Daisy like crazy bragging about a 1,000% return in only a year.
That would be great if true and of course you could make a withdrawal……. But good luck with that lol.
If the forex was so fantastic why not create an EA that connects to your own broker MT4?
They charge a performance fee even though 50% of your tier goes to the company and upline. Have you noticed the increased promotion in momentum packs…
Nowcrypto is outperforming forex so now new investments go into crypto. Wake up people !! If their trading was so successful why do they want you to invest in fake mining packages?
Imagine they actually used those tens of millions of funds, tied to a regular broker, that is registered, and hired an actual to trade?
This hype of Ai that everyone is buying into mist be the biggest scam of the century. Suddenly all these scam companies are making bots that never turns profits. Yet the users continue to buy into it.
Every time a scammer running a trading bot has traded it typically results in multi-million dollar losses.
This is from the various SEC filings we’ve seen from trading bot schemes they’ve gone after.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t it go a bit like this:
Daisy/Endotech Crypto……. There is No AI, No bots, people just get suckered into investing with promises of obscene returns.
Pot runs dry, so then it’s a reboot Daisy/Endotech Forex……. There is No AI, No bots, people just get suckered into investing with promises of obscene returns.
Pot runs dry again, so we’re back with another reboot to Daisy/Endotech Crypto……. There is No AI, No bots, people just get suckered into investing with promises of obscene returns.
Holy fuck!……. talk about wash, rinse, repeat lol.
You would think so but not in the world of crypto MLM.
Top tier shills are brainwashed into believing that the Ai in its current state is being deployed on the largest exchanges and moving million of dollars worth of trades.
What a mess!
Ponzi alright! I never got paid the $700 plus dollars for bringing in people.
And, on top of that, my upline scammer SEAN RASMUSSEN is a con artist too who tricked many of us by buying into his accounts he had under himself… ALPHA, BETA, CHARLIE and most likely more. .
Each victim paying from 1500 to well over $3 grand under him so that he would hit the very top position… his promises were “watch the thousands drop into your accouts”….
well the only account where thousands fell into was his own account. LIAR SCAMMER THIEF!
Hi I have a question. What is the reason that ponzi schemes do months long, sometimes years long, exit scams coming up with excuses such as hacker attacks and technical works?
If the scammers are going to flee to Dubai anyway, why not just disable withdrawals outright and pack it up?
I hear that this is to ‘create distance between their victims’. But I don’t see how that makes sense.
The victims don’t stop being victims just because a few months pass, and trying to prevent police reports seems to be a pointless exercise too as they can just flee straight away.
In fact, why not flee first and then disable withdrawals rather than spending months making excuses?
People who participate in crypto Ponzis are dumb as dogshit.
Exit-scam stall for 3-6 months and most of them have moved on to lose money in other crypto Ponzis.
Yes I get that but what’s the need to even stall in the first place?
If I’m a scammer and my scheme is about to collapse, the first thing I will do is flee to Dubai before disabling withdrawals.
Why even waste time making excuses and stalling? Who cares what the people I scammed think or do?
The more time wasted the less complaints are filed and the harder law enforcement’s putting together a case becomes.
Think of it like detectives at a crime scene on the night of a murder vs. getting a tip and being at the same place six months after the fact.
Yes I get that too but these people are fleeing to Dubai anyway right?
What does it matter how many reports they get or how good the case is if they are in a safe location where they can’t be extradited?
Nobody lives in Dubai forever.
So why do they flee in the first place? If your whole goal is to prevent a case being built against you then no need to flee.
On the other hand if you can’t avoid arrest then you need to flee. And leaving Dubai in the future won’t make them any less guilty so will be arrested.
So if they were safe enough to be able to travel around in future, then no need to flee in the first place right?
Not prevent, delay.
Crypto Ponzi admins aren’t much smarter than their victims.
Yes I am stupid too as I invested some money in S Group which has stopped paying recently. I was initially convinced for a number of reasons.
They say funds are locked while they are audited. They also say they are taking down names of people spreading panic and will shut down their accounts when the audit is over, so they will probably shut down my account.
S Group is an MLM but there are a couple of things that set it apart that convinced me it was legit.
Firstly, the founder Vadim Mashurov is a well known IT tech entrepreneur in Ukraine who worked with American game development companies as well as Google.
He also launched a social media promotion company called Instime which involves network marketing but was legitimate and helped promote instagram accounts, and their technology was bought by a Chinese company.
So I figured Vadim Mashurov is unlikely to be a scammer and wouldn’t want to tarnish his name since he is already a successful businessman.
Secondly, S Group doesn’t just have forex but also has a medical cannabis direction.
Vadim Mashurov has shown their cannabis farm in Switzerland and are soon going to launch physical cannabis products. So I figured well seeing as there is a physical product, it won’t be a ponzi.
They also started real estate and a well known Russian building developer had been in talks with Vadim Mashurov.
Vadim Mashurov also showed everyone the forex trading accounts, and showed on Instagram that he had a meeting with forex brokers.
So you can see there are a lot of things that make it look legit. As weird as this sounds, I hope it is a scam because if it isn’t then I will be banned and lose out on making money. So I hope it is a scam.
But yeah based on all these things, do you think there is a chance it is not a scam?
There is no audit. Invested funds are used to pay withdrawals till collapse.
Everything after that is marketing bullshit.
Yes, I would say 99% chance this is the case. But I still can’t believe that an actual well known businessman who had a legitimate business before this would do this when he was already making millions legitimately before.
And they have their own cannabis plant and everything, so physical products.
They are going to have another tour of the facility at the end of the year. Not sure how they are going to continue one part of the business whilst scamming on the forex part.
#25 Exer, https://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/exer-vip-club-review-viridi-coin-medical-marijuana-pump-dump/, also said that they owned a cannabis plant and arranged trips to visit the plant.
Members found out the hard way that Exer was a scam. So a cannabis plant is no guarantee that it is not a scam.
I see. Did they actually have a physical plant though or did they only say they did?
this happens all the time. I personally know of lawyers, business people, millionaires, money managers, company owners, successfull people, who eventually become greedy and jump on the mlm/crypto mlm bandwagon.
They are the ones who appear to legitimize the scam. People get sucked in and cry in diselief when the thing starts to collapse.
Wow, I just never considered someone would ruin their own name just to get richer when they’re already rich. What sold me was the physical cannabis facility, the fame of the founder, and the fact they showed forex trading accounts.
If you search S Group on Youtube you can find all their videos supposedly showing their economic activity.
Videos on YouTube isn’t proof of anything.
When it comes to investment opportunities, if there’s no audited financial reports filed with regulators assume it’s all bullshit.
Basically they showed their trading accounts with the broker which had $414 million dollars.
just numbers on a screen. If they cant prove that the funds actually exist , even so they must be regulated.
Which broker did they use? Didnt Xifra also claim at one stage that they were manufacturing cannabis products, just before they collapsed ?
See #30.
They only care about money. And its easy for them to play stupid, and say that they were also scammed, as they have been pretending from the beginning.
Never trust anyone who says that they make money from passive income, no matter how famous or rich they may be.
But they actually opened the broker account of the trading company in front of everyone.
Also, they say they have a license from New York Department of financial services and showed a picture of it. If I can find it can I share it and you can tell me if it looks legit?
See #30.
OK, please look at this link and scroll to the bottom and they show a certificate. Is it legit? And please delete the comment after looking at it in case people click on this and believe it
(Ozedit: link removed)
It’s a Swiss incorporation certificate for the shell company SSG Holdings AG. It’s meaningless.
Securities in Switzerland are regulated by FINMA. Shell incorporation != registering with FINMA.
And even then, registering with FINMA only covers Switzerland. Any other country you’re soliciting investment in you need to register with too.
Anway this article is about Daisy. Not sure how we started discussing S-Group. There are S-Group articles if you wish to discuss the company further.
Oh sorry I didn’t see the other article before I commented. I was trying to search about audits.
And by the way I wasn’t talking about the Swiss certificate. If you scroll all the way down there is a certificate from the New York Financial services authorising them to operate in the US.
Securities in the US are regulated by the SEC. Registering a Delaware shell company with the NY Dept of Financial Services means something in New York but only if audited financial reports have been filed.
You can call up the NY Dept of Financial Services and verify nothing has been filed. Notwithstanding legally required SEC registration.
Is it possible they obtained the certificate through illegitimate means?
Sure. Register shell company in Delaware with bogus details. Register shell company with NYDFS. Get certificate and upload to website.
It’s all meaningless.
The SEC’s Edgar database is publicly searchable. That’s the one that counts across the US.
To be clear, nothing is stopping Ponzi schemes registering with the SEC but it ups the risk of a regulatory enforcement action considerably.
S Group was (Ozedit: derails removed, see #38)
You can be a very successful businessman making millions and still be stony broke. All you have to do is borrow lots of money and then gamble it away or waste it.
The larger your income is, the more broke you can become. Because people who have more income can get bigger loans.
You can found a company and sell it for many millions and not actually have that much in the bank afterwards (especially after paying the tax bill), because you might only have a relatively small shareholding after selling shares in exchange for start-up investment and splitting the rest with co-founders.
You never, ever, have any idea what someone’s finances are like, no matter how successful or otherwise they appear to be on the outside. Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.
Bad times.
The new crypto ai that was launched on July 1st, an error was found in 1 of the 70 AI experts which means the system did not execute the trades.
The crypto builders and achievers bonus pools are now being extended until September 2025, as those pools are using the new ai.
Not sure as it didn’t say, but I believe that also puts the hedgefund back to September 2025 so nobody can withdraw their initial investment until then.
It definitely hasn’t crashed as hard as a ponzi with no new investment, it’s definitely something to do with 1 of the 70 ai things only getting 6 months worth of trade history instead of the year that the other 69 got.
Wes Garner and Lisa Marie Holt who are promoting this have gone awfully quiet on Daisy. Except for all the groups they are admins of where they are trying to squeeze every last penny out of their victims.
It’s all about Camhirst 3dcp which is a rather delightful ponzi which is all about 3d house printing. It’s nice to have a ponzi with a difference. It even has a shitcoin.
It’s so laughable that I have no sympathy for anyone donating their money to it.
You need to check your facts, Daisy Forex has not collapsed, and there has never been a time when you could not contribute to Daisy Forex.
Moreover Daisy Forex has returned a profit of 1011.82% since last April of 2022, there has NEVER BEEN a losing week or a losing Month in Daisy Forex.
Also Forex withdraws land in your wallet every Monday without fail… i am currently enjoying a 385.72% return on my contribution…
@Alice
Lulz, the Ponzi AI is fighting back.
@reg
The second a Ponzi scheme stops paying out = collapse.
Of course. Milk the gullibles for as long as you can. Standard Ponzi “feature”.
Which you can’t withdraw. Sorry for your loss.
do you lie to your parents with that mouth sir, i just withdrew $1000 yesterday from Daisy Forex trading profits.
(Ozedit: derails and abuse removed).
While amusing, getting butthurt at me won’t change the fact Daisy has collapsed.
We already know the ROI has plummeted and your investment is locked. Stealing whatever little new investment is still coming in isn’t going to last much longer.
Daisy wouldn’t have to keep coming up with excuses if new dummies were still investing.
To the guy that successfully withdrew $1000 from his DAISY account yesterday. Why don’t you call up Jeremy Roma, Avinash Nagamah, Rabu Gary or Bonnie and Clyde/Lisa Marie Holt and Wes Garner.
I’m sure all of them will have some other amazing opportunity for you invest in like robots that can build homes in less than 72 hours lol.
A more competently-run scam would have the guy faking the return results toss in a handful of down weeks.
People are still holding on to hope that things are going to change.
Some are having problems accessing their accounts.
Wes Garner and Lisa Marie Holt are pretending they are leaving the country, I’m guessing to avoid angry investors.
Lisa Marie Holt has had her Facebook account deactivated for fraud, so hopefully she’s gone for good from Facebook and won’t be able to scam any more people.
They both make a living from referrals so that should decrease immensely.
Is this it then, can anyone from daisy confirm or deny that this is now the case ?
Withdrawls issue on some accounts, probably and then limit withdrawals on the accounts with smaller in value networks, then make slower moves on the the bigger ones until nothing more can be paid out and bigger accounts have managed to cash out much larger sums than what they have put in.
Will they launch a new token ?
Friday I requested funds withdrawal from Daisy Forex for the first time and today I recieved my funds $ 2.400,00 without any problems.
If you really received money from a collapsed Ponzi then I’m the President of the US. As you can see, my name is not Joe Biden, and the reality is, I don’t even hold US citizenship.
Your Ponzi has collapsed, your money is gone, and your withdrawal story is just a lie to convince admins to give you a chance to withdraw peanuts. Sorry for your loss.
mr #55, its real easy to tell somebody that he is lying without any proof. I invested a small amount in daisy last year nothing much.
When I found this rumours I want to get something out, I tried friday to make a withdrawal and did recieve the funds this afternoon. If you dont believe me I can email you a screenshot of my tron wallet that wil support my statement.
What proof do you have for your statement or are you only accusing people without any ground what so ever?
The proof is that Daisy Forex has collapsed. New withdrawals in Daisy 2.0 cannot be made until September, as per official marketing presentations. It’s not September yet. So… yep, lies.
Sorry for your loss.
First of all, this is not rumours, this is fact. Besides, I caught you lying once again. If you invested “nothing much” that you can afford to lose in a Ponzi, why did you feel the need to get money out? That doesn’t make any sense.
Repeating a lie doesn’t make it true.
I can make a fake screenshot about me having trillions of dollars in five minutes. Don’t expect me to fall for this old trick.
*checks notes*
It is in fact not September.
Daisy Forex’s Ponzi collapsed. Maybe they’re stil letting some withdrawals go through (recruitment).
Point is, Daisy Forex collapsed. Coming on here to shill about withdrawals doesn’t change that.
Ok Kir you are clearly just an idiot who only wants to hear himself shout and call everybody else a liar.
I did not say that daisy did or did not collapse, i jist said that i recieved money today. I cannot care if you dont believe me.
How pathetic.
Repeating a lie doesn’t make it true.
Well if you don’t care, then why do you respond and try to convince me that you got paid? Here’s a tip – if you don’t care, you simply do not react. Otherwise it’s quite opposite.
They are unlocking unlimited momentum packs in September for both forex and crypto.
The crypto ai isn’t working so trading will be taken over by humans.
Most victims are now seeing that it’s bullshit, so they can be taught, eventually.
Wes Garner is calling all the victims stuipid who have said it’s a scam. Apparently they didn’t listen to the call yesterday which must have told them all they would still get rich.
Some others are still sticking up for the scam. That is the bit I don’t understand. They have taken all of your money and you have received nothing back, at this point it’s obvious.
One of the victims just said that now they are using human trades instead of AI that the name of the company should be changed to D.S.Y.
Is there any update regarding this project?
My friend is constantly increasing the investment in Daisy and I afraid of the outcome he might face.
Withdrawal works?
Whether “withdrawal works” now is irrelevant to Daisy being a Ponzi scheme in which the majority of investors have and will continue to lose money.
They are switching back to forex, all crypto funds will be transferred to forex.
In 3 months the crowdsourcing will be over so you will be able to withdraw your initial investment.
You need to forget all the other times they have said this.
You can now join Daisy for a little as 100 usdt.
I’ve seen a couple of complaints about not being able to withdraw but nothing confirmed.
There is a big event in Dubai in February 2024 so it must be super legit as no scammers would go to Dubai ever.
Wes Garner has decided that trying to act like Andrew Tate will bring him success so is being rude and offensive to everyone.
Given that he looks like a giant ugly baby he’s not quite nailing it, though him viewing Tate as a rule model tells you everything you need to know about his personality.
So crypto is out and forex is in.
So it’s now been crypto, forex, crypto, and now back to forex.
You need to get in before Feb 2024 as after that you can’t join.
Now cryto is out and buying Brazilian Footballers is in!! Can’t wait to hear what you have to say on this.