Confirmation of Ruja Ignatova’s arrest yet to surface
As I write this, official confirmation of Ruja Ignatova’s arrest has yet to surface.
Reports out of Germany are conflicting, with authorities yet to issue an official statement.
A few media publications have syndicated the initial Nbox article, but only the Gerlach Report and MLM Worldwide have published new information.
According to the Gerlach Report Ignatova was arrested in relation to an ongoing fraud investigation in Bielefeld.
Gerlach report claim Ignatova is being held in a “transport cell” at Stadelheim prison in Munich.
Ted Nuyten, who is believed to have received large sums of money from OneCoin and its affiliates in exchange for favorable coverage on BusinessForHome, was quick to dismiss Ignatova’s arrest as “fake news”.
In a Facebook post published the day after news of Ignatova’s arrest broke, Nuyten claimed his unnamed ‘sources (had) confirmed the news is NOT true.‘
Offering up a bit more information is a November 6th article from MLM Worldwide, who bill themselves as a direct selling online magazine.
In the article MLM Worldwide claim to have contacted the German law firm Schulenberg & Schenk.
Shortly after Germany’s top financial regulator Bafin announced an investigation into OneCoin in mid 2016, Schulenberg & Schenk were hired to publish a legal opinion on the company.
Not surprisingly, Schulenberg & Schenk’s legal opinion completely ignored the OneCoin’s Ponzi business model and claimed the company was legal in Germany.
OneCoin also engaged Schulenberg & Schenk were also used by OneCoin to go after rival Ponzi scheme, SwissCoin.
Despite Schulenberg & Schenk’s one-paragraph legal opinion stating the company was legal, earlier this year in April BaFin banned promotion and operation of OneCoin across Germany.
After news of Ignatova’s arrest broke, Stephan Schulenberg purportedly told MLM Worldwide they’d phoned Stadelheim prison and
can confirm that our client Dr. med. Ignatova was not detained there.
A telephone conversation with the public prosecutor’s office in Bielefeld also revealed that there is nothing there about an arrest and no arrest warrant (has been issued).
If Ignatova wasn’t arrested, why Schulenberg & Schenk didn’t just reach out to her directly is unclear.
Tim Curry separately reached out to German authorities on Monday and they wouldn’t confirm or deny Ignatova’s arrest.
The Gerlach Report meanwhile are insisting Ignatova’s arrest is not “fake news”.
The publication asks, “If Ruja Ignatova is indeed free, why does not she show herself?”
The fact is that the events at the airport in Munich have been confirmed by several sources.
The detention in the women’s detention center was also confirmed by The Gerlach Report.
It is also true that the investigating authorities have to date issued “no official press release”.
The Gerlach Report has learned this is due to “determination-technical reasons”.
Apparently, Dr. Ruja Ignatova – in an attempt to reduce her own expected punishment – (is delivering information on) the national (OneCoin) heads.
She is said to have already pointed out at first interrogations that “she has done everything to prohibit the fraudulent activities and actions of sales”.
Here, the “service instructions” of the fraud network were cited.
Whether this argument will work remains questionable.
Earlier today Jan Faber, Editor-in-Chief at the Gerlach Report, asserted the credibility of the publication’s reporting;
We stick to our story. Our sources are reliable. German news outlets will report once more information will be released.
Being a German story, this has broken on The Gerlach’s Report’s home turf. If this turns out to be another Macau debacle, maybe it’s time to reevaluate the publication’s publishing policy?
That said The Gerlach Report didn’t initially break news of Ignatova’s arrest, that was the Bulgarian publication Nbox.
Since then though the Gerlach Report have very much run with the story though and made it their own.
Personally, unlike Ted Nuyten, I’m skeptical but at this point not ready to dismiss either side. BehindMLM is just reporting what’s out there as it breaks.
Pending further information coming to light, I myself haven’t insisted Ignatova has or hasn’t been arrested.
The things that do strike me as strange though are:
- Ignatova failing to issue a statement or recording despite news of her arrest breaking almost four days ago
- both Schulenberg & Schenk and The Gerlach Report claiming access to what would be an ongoing operation pending charges filed
- unnamed sources cited by Nbox, Ted Nuyten, The Gerlach Report and MLM Worldwide
I also haven’t ruled out the possibility that Pierre Arens may be cooperating with authorities following his abrupt departure last month, although that’s somewhat of a tangent.
Stay tuned…
Update 9th November 2017 – The Munich General Police Commissioner and Bielefeld and Munich Public Prosecutor’s Offices have each denied Ignatova was arrested last Saturday.
in it’s latest article about onecoin, the gerlach report alleges that the legal firm Schulenberg & Schenk does not do criminal law and are not representing ruja ignatova, and hence could not have accessed any information either from the detention center or the prosecutors office:
uh, so okay, if germany has such tough ‘data protection’ procedures in place, how is the gerlach report accessing all this information?
gerlach report doesn’t have a reputation as a serious news publisher, so it’s claims are questionable.
gerlach also reports that it contacted MLMonline which wrote back that stephan schulenberg had responded to their query on facebook:
jon faber, the Editor-in-Chief at the Gerlach Report, actually came on here and stood behind gerlach’s reports? boy, he’s really putting himself out there in case gerlach finds itself in a legal mess!
here are gerlach’s latest ‘claims’:
gerlachreport.com/news/mit-anwaltlicher-hilfe-die-echte-onecoin-verarsche
meanwhile what’s wrong with rujamama and whereto has she disappeared? mama has no sympathy for her little affiliates who are confused and afraid from all the conflicting reports about her arrest? 🙁
all she has to do is smear on some dark red lipstick and wear a low cut blouse and jiggle a bit on a video to calm down her babies.
how difficult is that?!
I’m all for asserting a law firm isn’t going to be able to receive information without consent of the accused (which would have to mean Ignatova was arrested and is being detained for representation to be confirmed), but as you point out that introduces the paradox of how then did the Gerlach Report obtain confirmation to the contrary?
That and if Schulenberg & Schenk are representing Ignatova, why did they have to confirm anything to begin with? They’d have been informed shortly after she was arrested.
And if Ignatova wasn’t arrested, why didn’t they just get in contact with her directly?
None of it adds up.
What a genius Exit strategy off That company, They Will make a ‘closed behind the door deal’ and keep loads of the money, most funny word of 2017: ” OneCoin white paper”.
The top distributors are on the Beach in Cambodia relaxing with the locals.
Ted Nuyten&Gerlach are happy with the website hits because of this shit storm, governments are happy because loads of money disappear from the mattresses into Digital Tokens hmmm, take your popcorn and relax and Enjoy this movie, just wondering How all those people would claim their money.
Andreas Åhlin-Lietzow is one of the few onecoin affiliates [jose gordon is another] who have posted on FB that they have contacted ‘sources/channels/corporate’ and can confirm that ruja ignatova is not arrested.
now Lietzow is claiming that onecoin has informed the police about the fake reports in gerlach and sued it:
he also claims that a video of ruja will be published soon:
well then, be alert for an impending booby fest.
OneCoin hasn’t sued anyone. Instead of getting in contact with OneCoin corporate (a bunch of Ponzi scammers operating in the background who are only interested in keeping the charade going), has anyone got in contact with Ignatova herself?
There’s video footage of Ignatova holding lavish parties on her $15 mill yacht. Don’t tell me she wouldn’t have squashed this claim within 24 hours if she was able to.
One of the fools suing would be the best possible outcome for those wishing to see the fraud end.
Sadly, it simply ain’t gonna happen.
The worst thing any of them could do is pay for a threatening letter from a pet lawyer.
Let’s not forget Bafin investigators have publicly pegged OneCoin investor losses in Germany at $424 million dollars. The company itself is outlawed.
But uh yeah, OneCoin are just going to file lawsuits in Germany hey. No worries…
the FB page ‘Ruja Ignatova – Onecoin the Future of Payments’ which i suspect is connected to ruja directly, has no new post since oct 29th.
checking post history over the last two months, generally there are new posts every couple of days at least, with the longest gap being about 5 days a couple of times.
between the 29th of oct and today at 7th nov, a gap of nine days seems longish…..
Well Åhlin-Litzow is indeed a retarded ponzipimp. Lashing out at gov institutions. Fighting for “The truth” on onecoin wiki page.
Hes the swedish version of ken labine. Alot more pathetic. Jobbles. No money. Living secondhand in a basement. Doing shit poor webpages for fast food thaifood.
after all that money laundry, finally arrested? This is epic at least, applause the UE for such jerk crap, pretty IDIOTIC, doing this just now!.
Here’s my pet theory. Some German cop has gone way above his pay grade by arresting Ignatova, and Ignatova’s connections are pulling all the strings they can to get her quietly transferred to Bulgaria on the basis the scheme is run there and it’s the Bulgarian government’s problem. Once there she can be equally quietly released for “lack of evidence”.
Germany won’t charge her, because prosecuting the OneCoin scam would open too many cans of worms in the Bulgarian government.
And the German state is not going to embarrass its fellow European Union member Bulgaria and endanger the EU project just to go after some two-bit scam that no-one has heard of outside ethnic minority enclaves.
The German authorities would rather they hadn’t arrested her in the first place, but now they’ve got her, they can’t release her onto German streets, because it would make them complicit when the scam collapses.
So Ignatova is being kept as comfortable as possible while German and Bulgarian officials figure out what to do with her. Hence all the silence and the “we can neither confirm nor deny”.
My bet is that after a few weeks of wrangling Ignatova will be back on her yacht, the whole thing will be declared fake news in a OneCoin newsletter, and whichever luckless cop arrested her will spend the rest of his career directing traffic.
(Ozedit: This has nothing to do with Ignatova’s arrest)
@Malthusian
Ok, that’s science fiction 😀 Cops in Germany can’t simply arrest someone like they want.
Unless Ruja wasn’t robbing someone at the Munich airport, there has to be a warrant of arrest signed by a prosecutor to arrest her.
That German authorities wouldn’t act because they are afraid to “endanger the EU project” is more than ridiculous.
First: German prosecutors simply don’t care about politics.
Second: arresting the head of a Ponzi scheme of another EU member State who’s got connections to high functionaries of his country would not have any influence on the stability of the EU. This is simply absurd.
@all – correct me if I’m wrong, but Ruja has citizenship in Bulgaria, Dubai and Germany. I doubt she could’ve operated Waltenhoffen Gusswerks without it. Therefore, Germany would have every right too keep and prosecute her there. Furthermore, she and her father Plamen Ignatov were jointly convicted on No less than 24counts of fraud in Germany(where she claimed, presumably under oath in April of last year that she “lives on a fixed salary of €3500 in Dubai.” While her probation (which has slightly different conotation under German Law – more correctly a *suspended sentence, if I recall) was only a year and 2 months, she is CLEARLY guilty of violating said probation while commissioning the crimes of Money Laundering, wire fraud and pyramid/ Ponzi sales, and probably a litany of other economic crimes.
So, IF SHE IS CAPTURED(???), than they should be able to throw the book at her – unless they’re looking to unravel the real culprits above her, which is where it gets scary.
Are there still ignorant Onecoin members promoting this mess and believing it’s real? How stupid are these people!
Jack
Definitely It’s real that’s why members joining every day becoming One COIN Big COMMUNITY
dang.
you just gave the gerlach report a nice little coverup story to publish, in case ruja hasn’t been arrested!
what we published about ruja’s arrest was TRUE. but the german police quietly drove her across the border in the dead of night because they got a phone call from bulgaria
though, i do recall that during the time the ufun ponzi scheme was being shut down by thailand, the promoter daniel tay and top promoters fled to malaysia, because ufun ‘very possibly’ had the protection of the son of the prime minister of malaysia. malaysia never took any action against ufun promoters.
so hey, who knows what-all can happen in this world?
ponzi schemes + politics = anything is possible!
@oz POST 13
-Please transfer to the alternative eg which I assume is the sham ICO thread.
THANKS
My post was slightly tongue-in-cheek. Santa Maria makes good points, and I wouldn’t actually be surprised if the Germans do charge her.
However, this silence invites speculation. Ignatova has disappeared for well over a week. A quick Google suggests that if the German police arrest you, they must bring you before a judge by the following day. Surely if she’d been before a judge it couldn’t be kept secret?
If Ignatova was arrested over a week ago, then by now she should have been either a) released b) charged and bailed c) charged and remanded in custody. If she’d been released it would be all over OneCoin social media, and if she’d been charged it would have been officially announced by the German authorities.
For her to have disappeared for so long suggests she is “co-operating with the authorities”. Perhaps she is cutting a deal, or perhaps she has been told to sit tight while someone cuts a deal for her.
after being strangely quiet on the subject of ruja’s arrest, ken labine has suddenly sprung to life, emboldened by the alleged statement of Stephan Schulenberg (of onecoin’s law firm Schulenberg & Schenk):
duh, labine, you onecoiners are such fatheads!
whoever said ruja had been arrested in china, UK or india?
china and india had arrested onecoin promoters. in the UK, the london police are investigating onecoin.
why flail around conjuring up dramatic lies?
btw, why did you have to wait for MLMonline to inform you that news of the arrest was false? you have nobody at the onecoin headquarters to give you any information? none of your top leaders have ruja’s phone number?
c’mon labine, how dumb is dumb.
@Malthusian – RE: “…perhaps she is cutting a deal…” – and would therefore be both in custody AND under Witness Protection.
@tim
Plenty of speculation around but your hypothesis above would be great .
I know you indicated some time ago who were the key players in Corporate OneCoin and also who the key distributors were /are eg Greenwood 001.
Could you now share the information on line so that we can add to their CVs eg Irina Dilkinska is not only Head of Compliance in OneCoin /OneLife but was also a founding Director of certain shell Companies in eg Fenara in Ireland.Others can add to it..
By the way what happened to Chris Smith -their Head of Communications cos there isn’t much communication.
Regards
Who the heck is Dr. med. Ruja Ignatova anyway?
Those lawyers can’t be worth much. Maybe they are accepting payment in Onecoin.
Madam don’t worry god and world people only for you you are future is world God bless you.
If German police want to share something you might find it here: presseportal.de/blaulicht/
Nothing so far about Ruja, Ignatova, Onecoin or something resembling those topics at all. And police custody court procedures are not public information in Germany so we know when we know, either she surfaces herself or the news will break that she is in police custody. It might take forever. Let’s see.
The search button seems to have an index of searchwords, and Onecoin and Ignatova is in fact autofilled inline. So something might have been there once and then been deleted.
Two more links:
multinivelzgz.com/fin-onecoin-ruja-ignatova-detenida-alemania/
mlm-worldwide.de/onecoin-cryptoqueen-ruja-ignatova-verhaftet
In Germany we call Schulenberg & Schenk so: “Rechtsverdreher” or “Winkeladvokaten”! 🙂
Nobody can tell where in the lowest depths of Hell
does the Gypsy Queen dwell
She built grand pyramids of crime
stole every nickel and dime
ruined many people’s lives
but in the end we’ll find
that in the jail she’ll die.
Now someone just make a picture of Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego except swap Ruja’s head and name in there.
Is the onelife website down? if you click on anything besides the initial page you get this error message “503 Service Unavailable no server is available to handle this request“.
I wished it’s true but I guess it’s just all made up…
If she would’ve been arrested it would be all over the German Media…
In Germany there’s always a press release by the police about arrests. But no woman was arrested at Munich airport last 4 week…
And why should she comment this story or show herself? She doesn’t comment anything. Her Lemmings do that for her.
After all any news is good news and everybody is talking about OneCoin once again… I sure hope I’m wrong…
In America, we have the county website or Vinelink to check for arrests and incarceration status. We also have Mugshots.com.
Does Germany not have something similar? It shouldn’t be this difficult. Did anyone call the jail?
There’s no such thing in Germany due to personal privacy laws…
You have the local or regional press releases mostly without names… They’re only mentioned if there’s a public interest..
didnt gerlach report claim at one time that Kari Wahlroos is/was the actual head of onecoin?!
But yeah, I dont think Ruja is in custody either. And she certainly doesnt let here pressure into making any kind of justifications.
@Kool-Aid
It’s been like that for about a week now.
@cryptokill
WordPress doesn’t have this functionality.
you mean onelife.eu? it’s working.
Net Closes Around Onecoin Scam as German Payment Processor has Assets Frozen by BaFin – coindesk.com/german-regulators-order-onecoin-dismantle-trading-system/ this is from Apr 28, 2017 I wouldn’t be that surprise they started doing something.
The real fact is “No company in the financial sector wants to be associated with Onecoin, as it will only drag their own reputation down the drain.” period.
Alexa traffic says onelife is going down the drain as well. Hope authorities stop this madness.
The Capital confirmed Ruja was not arrested at Munich airport:
https://twitter.com/Svrakata/status/928342013669453827
Sources say Ruja is still on maternity leave.
Which may or may not mean anything. I’m still waiting for real proof one way or the other.
I can’t read German, but the journalist confirms the refutation.
he says “We have official refutation that Ruja Ignatova was arrested at Munich airport.”
link there’s and photo off an email sent from Bayern Polizei: twitter.com/Svrakata/status/928342013669453827