Is iPro Network a proxy for OneCoin’s US Ponzi scammers?
OneCoin, being the Ponzi scheme that it is, was never going to risk launching in the most tightly regulated market in the world.
Despite stringing early OneCoin investors along with promises of a US launch, the charade was quietly dropped in October, 2015.
Spear-headed by Sal Leto, Maurice Katz and other affiliates, US OneCoin recruitment went underground.
While publicly OneCoin wasn’t operating in the US, through offshore shell companies and bank accounts, unofficially US residents were still being recruited into the scheme.
OneCoin management were of course fully aware this was going on, but money is money so they turned a blind eye to it.
Fortunately having to go through that many hoops to join an MLM opportunity sets off alarm bells in all but the most determined Ponzi scammers. And so recruitment of affiliates in the US ground to a halt.
That killed off recruitment commissions, with the situation further deteriorating when OneCoin cancelled all Ponzi ROI withdrawals back in January.
Unable to recruit new victims or cash out their Ponzi points, OneCoin’s US investors desperately began looking for a way out.
Enter iPro Network.
iPro Network is basically a snapshot of OneCoin in its current state, and it’s accepting signups from US residents.
This didn’t go unnoticed by OneCoin’s abandoned US affiliates, who set out to strike a deal between the two companies.
In late January, US-based OneCoin affiliates held a conference call to ‘clarify where we are and where we are going in terms of those of us in the United States‘.
Sal Leto and Maurice Katz — our leaders at the top in the U.S. — have made an arrangement with a company which will not have the challenges we have had with OneCoin in the U.S.
That company is iPro Network, purportedly run by Armando Contreras.
Dr. Ruja is being highly cooperative in a transition. The compensation plan is even better (although closely modeled after OneCoin).
At the time (January 2017), Sal Leto (right) was purportedly in Bulgaria to meet with OneCoin management.
Sal Leto is in Bulgaria to talk directly with Dr. Ruja regarding our future in America, so this is part of the feedback.
What you may have seen on Facebook and the internet … even a video last weekend of our OneLife CEO Pablo Munoz making a statement at last weekend’s Sweden conference that OneCoin will not be introduced into the United States.
We saw (at) the Oct 1st convention in Bangkok that OneLife was going to visit four cities in America, but things have changed.
To minimize risk to getting the IPO approved, they are not going to launch in the U.S.
This only speaks to the deception OneCoin will need to pull to get an IPO listing. The company has only announced it will apply for a listing in an Asian exchange.
This is likely to be in a country with little to no regulation of foreign companies.
From Sal Leto himself, this is apparently the deal he has struck with OneCoin management.
Onelife CEO Pablo Munoz said to me that he is not comfortable accepting funds from a country with is only in a prelaunch phase.
So Sal subsequently told Ruja that Munoz is not offering good solutions for us.
Dr. Ruja said she will provide the genealogy of all the downlines so the structure can be transferred to another company.
Networking side (within OneCoin): Building and recruiting. These are two activities no longer allowed. If you got in before now, you got lucky.
They (OneCoin) are about to be audited. Going on a major stock exchange, probably the biggest in Asia. Cannot have transactions in countries (you) do not do business in.
Sending money from a restricted country from the US, they (OneCoin) will not accept it.
We cannot (continue to) falsify company forms. If you are a U.S. citizen, you can’t say you live in another country. People who got in this week, they are fine.
Starting next week, if selling in a restricted country that will be grounds for termination.
Really, at this point any doubt OneCoin aren’t intricately aware of who their US affiliates are should be put to rest.
Looking to the future, here’s how Leto sold his OneCoin deal to the US affiliates on the call.
The priority first is to take care of the people who have put a lot of money in… they will be okay!
(Edit: so much for “buying education packages”)
What Ruja did speaks highly of her. I told her there will be a lot of people who only have contacts in the U.S., she respects that.
She said that for our team only, she is willing to provide the full genealogical database to our team.
Don’t have to start over, just pick up where they left off… as an exit strategy.
Steve Gotberg, another US OneCoin affiliate, also added:
Think we might be able to keep the (OneCoin) ranks you have earned. So two programs side bys ide.
Can just about use the same PowerPoint (presentations) because (iPro Network) will be that similar.
According to Leto, iPro Network is “based in the UK” and has a “US MLM attorney”
who will be publicly displayed on their (iPro Network’s) website.
The attorney has a lot of experience with MLM, U.S. government, etc. They want to operate by U.S. standards with its heavy regulations.
At the time of publication there is no mention of an attorney, US or otherwise, on the iPro Network website.
Alexa currently estimate that 94% of all traffic to the iPro Network website originates out of the US.
As per iPro Network affiliate communications, shell companies used to launder funds into OneCoin from the US are now being repurposed for iPro Network investment.
Cash & personal checks are not accepted.
Make your cashier’s check payable to:
Beneficiary Name: Fintact Solutions Group, LLC
Beneficiary Address: 118 Vintage Park Blvd., #W-418, Houston TX 77070
Beneficiary Customer Support: (702) 907-2887
Beneficiary Account Number: 5248738816
Bank: Wells Fargo Bank, N.A.
Bank Address: 420 Montgomery, San Francisco, CA 94104
WIRES INSTRUCTIONS FOR ORDERS OVER $1000 ONLY:
Beneficiary Name: Fintact Solutions Group, LLC
Beneficiary Address: 118 Vintage Park Blvd., #W-418, Houston TX 77070
Beneficiary Bank: Wells Fargo Bank N.A.
Bank Address: 420 Montgomery, San Francisco, CA 94104
Beneficiary Checking Account Number: 5248738816
ABA (Routing Number): 121000248
Swift Code: WFBIUS6S
So there you have it. With the blessing of OneCoin management, the scheme’s top US investors are going to have their own crack at Ponzi fraud through iPro Network.
No matter how you cut it, investing in Ponzi points is a securities offering. All the baloney about education packages and such, go back over what Sal Leto and friends discussed on their call.
Nobody is worried about not being able to access copy and paste PDF documents. All they’re worried about is losing their money and the value of their OneCoin points.
That’s what is and always has been purchased by OneCoin affiliate investors. With the same now being true of iPro Network (by admission of iPro Network’s own affiliates, the two scams are identical on the back-end).
Meanwhile iPro Network does not appear as a registered company on a search of the SEC’s Edgar database.
How long before the SEC catch wind of iPro Network and take action remains to be seen.
with onecoin approaching its end in slow-motion, ruja and poor pablo have no intention of getting tangled up in the USA. they’re probably happy ending their feeding frenzy with food off the tables of the impoverished in africa, south america and asia.
so, they’ve handed over onecoin US affiliate data to the top affiliates there in a trade-off, so that they can makeup for their losses in onecoin by scamming people in ipro-network?
i guess onecoin affiliates will be given some free procoins or something, and be told to reinvest in ipro-network and make some money.
clearly, ipro-network is selling investments without SEC registration, but scammers are probably feeling safer now, in the regulatory environment under the trump presidency.
If they had put all this effort into a real business as this time they’d probably be profitable and you know… allowed by law.
What you’re seeing is backroom deals. IPRO probably has a sweetheart deal with Ruja-mama, i.e. “since you can’t sell stuff to the US affiliates, why not give us the data, for considerations to be named later?”
Nah, a leopard can’t change its spots. They ONLY know of this way to make money (by taking it from others).
OneCoin promotion in US: imgur.com/a/0CiXJ
So the one coin top ponzi pimps (Ken, joby, Tom and the rest) are jumping up and down about the IPO and subsequent stock market float (lol) that they claim is going to happen.
Does this not sound like a carbon copy of the way UFUN was pushed just before it imploded? Joby was pushing that one too, can anyone else confirm which pimps in one coin were also in UFUN?
Joby Boughey texted his team the following on WhatsApp:
Lol.
Best guess, this is the whitepaper he’s talking about:
procommerce.io/static/site/img/whitepaper_V1.1.pdf
Um, a whitepaper is just a txt document. Pay some guy on Fivver to rewrite an existing one and off you go?
What does that have to do with OneCoin using a MYSQL database?
iPro Network’s Terms & Conditions are a straight copy, apart from a few essential name changes, of the Terms of Use of a website called Namanaliri.com.
Namanaliri appear to me to be an entirely legitimate company selling essential oils. I don’t suppose the owner will be too happy about having his material ripped off by a bunch of scam artists.
RE: OneCoin whitepaper
I’m sure it will be signed with the author (READ: plagiarist’s) REAL NAME, right?
I infiltrated a 30minute phone conversation with OneCoin scammer Jason Richard Mangan on Monday night, only revealing my identity half way through the Call.
I somehow managed to keep him in the phone for another 15 minutes, in which he started that he and other Onecoinists were moving over into “ProCoin,” which he was surprised I knew anything about.
I mentioned that (his friend) Tom McMurrain had also been promoting this. He told me that ProCoin kicked him out due to his criminal history and multiple ponzi affiliations. Lol.
Several of us had warned the development team of him in a bitcointalk forum. Earlier, we had also, along with bitcoin luminary, Brock Pierce, Pitt pressure on Grant Cardone TV to cancel his show, “The *CON-Profit.”
even scams like swisscoin and dascoin have published ‘whitepapers’ and that does not prove their coin is real or that they’re not running ponzi scams.
steemit.com/swisscoin/@mestyz/swisscoin-white-paper
zukiewicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/dascoin-white-paper.pdf
if ruja can have a fake blockchain and a fake exchange, why can she not have a fake whitepaper?
ruja is such a faker, all she needs to produce a ‘whitepaper’ is a large roll of toilet paper.
awww, a scammer getting chucked out from a scam! that’s like hitting the rock bottom in the scamworld!
mcmurrain is trying to put a brave face on it:
i guess mcmurrain will have to spend a lot of money to travel to and build a downline in pakistan. he still hasn’t found the guts to step into india [after onecoin arrests here], and is trying to zoomcast his way into indian wallets.
Well, The People’s Bank of China (PBOC) has been testing of a national digital currency based on the same underlying technology as Bitcoin. If they do launch it, kiss OneCoin bye-bye in China.
I just remembered that China has basically shut down OneCoin there when they reaided and arrested the major promoters.
Time to Play – “Fun and Games with Tom McMurrain”
If you have a sense of humor (and didn’t invest in OneCoin), you have got to laugh at some of Tom McMurrain’s lame-ass posts.
Like this one:
Hmmmmm…..did Tom actually just compare investment advisors with OneCoin to all of the information available ON investing via Google?
This is “fake news” – let’s fix it.
“If Tom McMurrain is your financial advisor…. history tells us with 100% certainty that you WILL BE broke.”
Source: Search Google (haha) for “Tom McMurrain convicted felon”
You’re welcome!
BTW, a few facts to consider:
In this post, Tom suggests that Google is a Financial Advisor. He also tries to minimize the value of Google to the end user – consumer looking for information on any given topic.
——> More on this later <——-
But, but, but good ole Tom isn't selling investments in Bitcoin.
He's pushing OneCoin, and Educated experts say it doesn't even qualify as a CryptoCurency (no blockchain, etc). Plus, it's not even available in the USA.
Furthermore, who in their right-mind sends spendable US Dollars to Bulgaria in hope of getting a 1000 percent return on their investment? AND…….who would stoop so low as to profit from selling the OneCoin scam/investment to their friends, family and social media contacts?
Well, Tom McMurrain, Kevin Foster, Sarah McGee, Ken Labine can answer the second question. The real question is how long until they have to ANSWER for their actions?
We have seen what happens when CryptoCurrency Ponzi Schemes offer their coins on the "open market" and it's NOT a pretty picture.
Remember YoCoin? It traded at over 30 cents per coin the week after the MLM launch and now trades at around 1 penny.
If one of your MLM fraudster friends convinced you that YoCoin was going to the be the "next Bitcoin" and you invested say… $10,000 the first week, your investment would now be worth about $333.
Yocoin (YOC)
$0.009557 (7.54%)
0.00000821 BTC (5.25%)
When your coin is traded on the open market, it all comes down to "supply and demand". On Wall Street, they call it the "bigger fool" mentality.
If you were fool enough to invest in YoCoin at 30 cents, you would need to find an even BIGGER FOOL to pay more in order to make a profit.
The same thing will happen to all of the digital accounts at OneCoin once the coins are available on the open market (if, like Italy just did, they aren't shut down first).
How long will Tom McMurrain be able to keep his investors from researching what's going on now with OneCoin.
It's crashing worldwide and the SEC doesn't play games. Tom is trying to limit the number of complaints from his investors. He knows that the regulators here in the USA will only move against the OneCoin fraudsters AFTER the complaints reach a certain level.
OneCoin keeps increasing the value of their fake coin in order to keep the investors happy. Ignorance is bliss.
If OneCoin investors understood basic math, their current state of bliss would quickly turn into:
"I wonder if what they are saying about OneCoin, Tom McMurrain, Ken Labine, Kevin Foster and Sarah McGee is true? Honey……did you wire our money to Bulgaria yet? You did? Shit! We're screwed!"
Let's have some fun with the math…..
"The launch of the new blockchain also marked an increase in the amount of coins available to ensure improved usability and market capitalization.
The total amount of mineable OneCoins increased from 10 000 coins per block in the old blockchain to 50 000 coins per block in the new blockchain, adding up to a total of 120 billion coins."
Source: NOLINK://onecoin.eu/en/news/onecoin-annual-review-%E2%80%93-2016
120,000,000,000 coins x € 9.85 = € 1,182,000,000,000 Yes, that's € 1.182 TRILLION!
So, Tom McMurrain actually thinks that as of today…..OneCoin is worth more than TWICE that of Google?!
Thanks Tom. You're a complete idiot. So noted!
Kevin Foster, OneCoin Ponzi Pumper, is now promoting iPRO Network. He posted pictures of the Denver, CO event and you can clearly see the iPro Network poster with companies like Amazon, Walmart, Best Buy, Shopify and eBay dislayed to add credibility to their ponzi scheme.
I wonder how these companies will respond to their name being used to cheat people out of their hard earned money?
We’ll soon find out 🙂
Here’s a short list of the main promoters:
Kevin Foster
Maurice Katz
Crystal Marie Spath
Bob Byrum
I know Sarah MaGee just wants to help people and prays to God that they take advantage of this unbelievable investment.
She post and brags about all she is doing and can afford to buy … is she claiming all this income to the IRS?
I am sure her tax returns will be looked at when the s#!t hits the fan. Could end up being a Looooong vacation In the clink.
@ Rockfish – – good question!
It will be interesting to see what happens after the FEDS move against the promoters of OneCoin here in the USA.
With Zeek Rewards, the investors who got in early enough to earn a profit were given a chance to “settle” with the regulators by returning about 50% of their profits. I assume they had to claim the other 50% on their taxes.
Tom McMurrain, Sarah McGhee, Carl Wilt, Kevin Foster and others are probably hoping the regulators don’t seek criminal charges against the promoters. IMO, they see their “downside” as having to give back only 50% of the profits.
My advice to them all – – don’t spend all of ill-gotten gains. Keep about 50% ready for the eventual “claw back.”
But be careful, after you play this game 2-3-4 times, the regulators might just get the picture and call you out for what you are – – a scammer who deserves to be punished for cheating people out of their hard earned money, retirement funds, college funds and savings.
top onecoin fatcat affiliates are dropping off like flies on a daily basis now.
over the last few days we heard that daniel grenon, david imonitie, moyn and monir islam, zain khan. touhid rehman along with the whole ODT gopro team, had all dumped onecoin.
today there’s talk of edward hartley leaving onecoin too:
apparently hartley announced his departure from onecoin via a zoomcast but i couldn’t find it.
a commentator ‘julla’ on murrobs has also reported on hartleys departure:
Ed Hartley has DEFINITELY left Onecoin. With a cautious and silver tongue he confirmed it without actually annunciating those precise words and asserting evidence of quoting the fact today. Hartley DID state that he has “been learning about CRYPTOCURRENCY lately…”
He actually went so far as to bring on “character witnesses” today, as he asserted (to those unaware, perhaps) that he has spent his career in this industry building a solid reputation and building massive teams, and *helping people; as some individuals who’d known him some time testified.
Hartley felt it relevant to make it a point to say that there’s NO WAY that he’s going to throw that away ‘WITH ANY COMPANY, whether it’s this company that company or whatever company (referencing that he ‘has walked away from large incomes before if he thought the company was … doing the wrong thing or moving in the wrong direction’).
He went on state that he is going to continue making sure that his kids go to the best college and that he promotes the truth and solid opportunities.
He was jovial but less than directly forth-coming. He reiterated to people that he has never ‘cross promoted’ or stole others downlines (I missed the earliest part of the call which sounded like there’d been a lot of rumors, fighting, accusations and shit-talking).
He told people that he can leave, not leave, or otherwise do whatever he wants and not have to report his personal business to anyone.
He said that anytime he wants, he can make a few calls to some CEO’s, tell them to deposit funds into his bitcoin account, jump in a plane, grab a hotel and go on a speaking tour with little to no effort at all. Because he’s already paid his dues, he reminded people, unlike some of the kids in their 20’s, 30’s, etc. getting into this exciting industry for the first time.
He’s known and He’s not worried about it, he said. He’s wanted for his abilities to both motivate, edify and quickly build teams and negotiate positions.
Ed chose not to answer a few of Touhid Rahman’s personal questions, such as to whether he was currently promoting something else.
Like I said, Hartley was guarded but nevertheless loquacious, and one of the quotes he made towards the end of his dialogue is this:
“Cryptocurrency has a much bigger mission than any one person or any one company.” He was also clear that he LOVES cryptocurrency and is very excited about it.
When he said he hold crypto, he mentioned legit ones (as I recall), and either he or Touhid (possibly both) “hoped” Onecoin MEMBERS would make it a successful company and get it in a right path towards merchants and success…
In whole, Hartley said A WHOLE LOT without really saying anything that couldn’t be interpreted to have any number of various “inconclusive meanings or insinuations” (and he even noted that this was all on the record and recorded).
Eventually, he let it be known that he would be exciting the call. After wishing everyone love and best of luck, and specifically saying “you need to do what is right for YOU, not anyone else” (and also saying that, “I’m not gonna bad-talk anyone or anything, I just do my thing…”).
He told Touhid that, ” I’m outta here now, and am not sure exactly how you might choose this (Touhid was also rather gentle on the subject, but made it clear he would not be promoting the OneLife concept because he didn’t believe in the “direction” the company was going,” etc) so whatever you have to say or if this conversation takes any sort of turn, well that’s on you.
For what it’s worth, both Touhid and Ed came across as entirely “genuine,” and “natural,” as well as “supportive” for their team (to the extent that they insinuated they possibly could be). Although there was a very clear understanding that both walked very lightly around any specific and real issues.
At one point earlier Ed had said SOMETHING cryptic (as “julla” in MurroBBS described) to the affect of, “if you guys only knew what I knew about the highest levels of done of these MLM’s…. you couldn’t imagine (chuckles).”
To me, this SEEMED to be mention of some of the criminal power and elements/ maneuvers and goings ons at the Tier 1 Level. Maybe even threats (?) – but that’s just me knowing what I know and imagining what details about what I know he knows, first hand.
Anyway, I”d say that we can say ba’bai to Onecoin UK, regardless of what may have been alluded to in previous comments. I’m thinking this may be all it takes.
Pakistan must be attacked next and bookmarked with the same truths and proof that apparently metastasized within the ODT U.K. Ranks this week.
The cancer is terminal and it’s everywhere within the body of Onecoin. We just need to feed every limb strategically until the body dies, part by part.
that’s the thing with these career pyramid/ponzi scheme scammers. they are sweet talkers to the power of 10!
somehow, when their scam schemes begin to collapse, they all find ‘genuine’ reasons to start dropping off one by one, while managing to convince their audience that they’re the bestest sweetest nicest people on earth.
the reason they’re leaving is because they are not making money anymore and/or the regulators are watching.
there are only two things these scammers are in love with – their bank balances and their own well fed asses.
@anjali – you will recall a (naive) content I made in a BMLM thread many many months ago…. I’m thinking around March/ April let year …in which I spoke in the phone with serial scammer and CONVICTED ponzi fraud artist (*ARTIST), Tom McMurrain….
My FALSE interpretation of him AT THAT TIME was rust he was a “swell guy.”
At that time (last year, 11 months ago) I just thought he was a dumb and misguided OneCULT recruiter.
LITTLE DID I KNOW that if you were a victim of his during the last DECADE, as Just hastened to follow his INVESTMENT ADVICE, than you would be ….at least 87.5% of you would be …STRUGGLING to even break even (and MANY would have lost SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNTS OF MONEY do he could feed his ducks on his acreage and farm, and he wouldn’t give a shit because hee and his ducks were entirely well fed, while you lost your ass.
Tom McMurrain is a SERIAL CON-ARTIST with a history of financially RAPING his victims with impunity (outside of the time when he fled U.S. Prosecutors for months, started some bizarre “Noni Fruit” scam in Panama, was extradited back to the USA and had to face the music.
IT IS PUBLIC RECORD that McMurrain PLEAD GUILTY TO PONZI FRAUD and spent 68 months in a Federal Penitentiary for that (in a 7 year 3 month sentence) and was ordered to repay $7.5 MILLION DOLLARS to the VICTIMS he had embezzled money from by WILLFUL FRAUD.
What’s rather hilarious is that I believed that the civil liability was $7,500,000.
When SCAMMER, “Investment Banker,”Tonya Lawrence,” foolishly copy/ pasted what she had sent Tom, from my private LinkedIn message to her, in which I have her the opportunity to come clean, and NOT get her name and her documented PROOF of birth seeking unlicensed Securities in the U.S., illegaly, via OneCon, and giving her the chance to DENOUNCE the INVESTMENT FRAUD she was perpetuating, she feebly attempted to offer me a “pseudo warning” to stop “harassing her,” when I had done no such thing, by defininition, other than presenting facts that her interview with serial scammer and U-Fun/ U-Token (motto: ” The Future of Money”) was promoting an OBVIOUS pyramid scheme, she sent me a cute little “cease and desist” notice. TWICE.
In the NEAR future, it will be fun to note whether the SEC, IRS or FBI, which I promptly reported her to, will actually describe to her the fact that she can lose her husband’s license to sell investments in USA because she’s that stupid.
What was I taking about? Tom McMurrain?
Yeah. He’s one of the ONLY prior in OneCon who has an elementary understanding of blockchain and crypto. He is in my Top 10 Hall of Shame Awards.
In criminal Court, I will look forward to testifying against him and pricing that despite him actually KNOWING the basics of cryptocurrency (and 100%, and without ANY DOUBT, lying through his teeth and MANIPULATING what he KNOWS are LIES), him promoting it anyway, and him actually PURPOSEFULLY CONVEYING AND SPREADINGV LIES and Disinformation for the goal of personal financial gain by knowingly using trickery and manipulation of well known FACTS in order to connivingly extract the dollar bills from his VICTIMS back pockets and checking accounts, in order to Fred his ducks, etc., with his 100% ill-gotten gains, via theft, embezzlement, accomplice to Wire Fraud, and anything else that will gain him the next 20 years in prison, which hee do righteously DESERVES.
I can’t wait!
I would like to see him, as well as documented SCAMMERS, Joby Boughey and Ken Labine, absolutely CRUCIFIED in criminal court fur their manipulation of facts and their flagrant disregard for CRUCIAL information, which they have CONSISTENTLY twisted and manipulated as otherwise, to further entangle their victims, whom they are the direct beneficiaries of, into folloeing their purposeful lies of known and logical red flags, which of conveyed in even half truths would cause any investor to flee.
@Oz – I have HEARD that recent cases may be able to hold them criminally liable and accountable for 3rd Degrees manslaughter charges if these criminal truth detractors lead to the chronic Shame, Depression and suicides from birth MASSIVE fiscal losses, embarrassment and SHAME that these certifiable heartless thugs inflict upon their peons?
Any cases that can be referred to in US, UK or worldwide in which charges we’re filed against suicide responsibility in criminal Court s?
I think they’d have a hard time pinning someone down on getting someone to invest, unless they practically forced them to.
You can be mislead into investing in something, but at the end of the day it’s your own decision (which is where liability falls apart). I’m not personally aware of any existing cases (usually it’s poor people in third world countries that commit suicide).
I’m not a lawyer though so take that for what it’s worth.
@TimTayshun You can certainly forget about the UK. Shouting “jump” at someone standing on the edge of a building is not a crime here.
If you harrass someone until they commit suicide you can be charged with harrassment, if you defraud someone who commits suicide you can be charged with fraud, but as for the act of suicide, well, the clue’s in the name.
I’m not a lawyer either but I don’t believe that “third-degree manslaughter” is a recognised legal term.
“Third degree murder” appears to be a US term for “voluntary manslaughter” (e.g. a “crime of passion”). Below that is “involuntary manslaughter” “second degree manslaughter” or “fourth degree murder” which covers things like accidentally running over someone in your car.
Classically “third degree murder” is a misnomer because manslaughter is **not** murder, but that’s American English for you.
I suppose doing something which leads someone to commit suicide could be considered “third degree manslaughter” but you’re essentially making up an entirely new crime.
I expect you could sue under civil law (especially in the US) but to prosecute someone for a criminal offence the relevant Government would have to pass a law declaring it as such.
Hey Oz,
My lawyer is ready to file in Denver against them.
Fintact Solutions/iPro Network’s money laundering company did not send me my refund check as promised. My bank will file a chargeback with the Wells Fargo account for this scam company asap.
(Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempt removed)
You’re paying a lawyer to recover $153?
Ufun
I SEE THERE WAS A REQUEST TO ESTABLISH WHAT AFFILIATES WERE INVOLVED IN THE IUPO AND SHUT DOWN OF uFUN BUT CAN’T REALLY SEE ANY ANSWERS . I AM PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN ESTABLISHING EUROPEAN FRAUDSTERS SUCH AS PETER SHAW AND PEHR KARLSSON FOR AN IMPENDING COURT CASE HERE IN IRELAND .
Please post info .. Thanks
it was comment no 6
@Char
I am a lawyer.
One year later what is happening with this coin scheme?
I don’t know but the image I linked in #5 is still the most funny marketing OC has ever had anywhere on the planet and it took Place in US (bigger than Facebook, Microsoft and Apple).
(Image originates from Twitter)
twitter.com/derose/status/753374638990917632
Yeah! Company 100x bigger than FB, MS, Apple… forgot to put its own name and logo on this leaflet!
For anyone else who happens to read through the comments, the point in the original post was that OneCoin “does not operate” in US (i.e. being a Ponzi scheme they couldn’t pass any of the regulations required) while in the real world the marketing takes place.
So rather unsurprisingly they – ahem – “forgot” to print their name and logo. 😀
I would like to know how many coins I have, like I enrolled since March 24 2017 with a $ 153.00.
I hope to get the answer by email . Thank you.
The same amount as you enrolled with?
Although if you don’t have access to the coins, does it really matter?
AND NOW this guy Sal leto has gone onto his NEXT SCAM project Auvoria Prime.
There are several things that are BIG no no’s for me. 10 the business does NOT have a real office, it is housed in a VIRTUAL office.
2) The company website is ONLY registered until Jan. 1st 2021 (They ONLY bothered to register it for one year, Why bother paying for more years if you already know that you will be out of business in a year or less? right?)
3) They say that their bot will treade for you with your forex account. BIG NO NO with the SEC as You NEED a 2nd party trading license before you can TRADE someone elses money! WHICH THEY DO NOT HAVE!
OH and they are NOT a registered business with the SEC! NOPE that’s enough for me!