We Got Friends Review: $69.95 a month “Nitroline” pyramid
We Got Friends fails to provide ownership or executive information on its website.
A corporate address in Carson City, Nevada for We Got Friends LLC is provided.
This address belongs to Eazy Bit Start LLC. Eazy Biz Start sells LLC formation services to “protect yourself from liability”.
We Got Friends marketing videos are hosted by David Dubbs and Val Smyth. The pair appear to be running the company.
Smyth first popped up on BehindMLM’s radar in 2015 as co-admin of Total Takeover.
Total Takeover was a relatively short-lived recruitment scheme. A few months after launch Total Takeover collapsed.
Later in the year Smyth returned with The Elite Networker, another recruitment-driven opportunity.
In 2016 Smyth launched Mentoring Millionaires, a combination pyramid gifting scheme.
Smyth’s last BehindMLM appearance was Legends VIP Network in August 2019.
Legends VIP Network was a pyramid scheme built around pirated stream content. From what I’ve been able to piece together, Legends VIP Network collapsed sometime in 2022.
David Dubbs (right) made a name for himself in Bellamora.
Bellamora shut down in 2011, prompting Dubbs to continue on as a marketer focused on lead generation.
This primarily takes place via The Conversion Pros, of which Dubbs is the Chief Marketing Officer.
The Conversion Pros provided leads for MLM scams, culminating in owner Ron Pope being part of the CashFX Group Ponzi launch team in 2019.
Pope’s role within CashFX Group has never been publicly clarified. He’s widely seen as a co-founder of the company, extending as far as a silent owner/executive.
The Ponzi side of CashFX Group collapsed in November 2021. The pyramid side of the scam continued into early 2022 but by mid year had also collapsed.
Through The Conversion Pros, Dubbs ran marketing training for CashFX Group Ponzi recruiters.
I thought this ended in January 2022. Turns out Dubbs was still coaching CashFX Group Ponzi scammers into mid 2022, the videos have just been deleted.
Whether Dubbs himself participated in CashFX Group as an investor is unclear. Given his close proximity to Ron Pope, it’s highly likely.
As opposed to pretending We Got Friends is based out Nevada, Val Smyth and David Dubbs operate from Canada and Nashville, Tennessee respectively.
Read on for a full review of We Got Friends’ MLM opportunity.
We Got Friends’ Products
We Got Friends has no retailable products or services.
Affiliates are only able to market We Got Friends affiliate membership itself.
We Got Friends affiliate membership provides access to 100 leads a month.
Here’s Val Smyth’s description of the leads, taken from a February 2023 We Got Friends marketing webinar:
Every month you have 100 leads guaranteed. Opt-ins, opt-ins, people that are looking to make three to seven thousand dollars a month in an online business. Possibly even using their cell phones.
You’re gonna get all fields of information. Time, date-stamped, first name, last name, email address, cell phone numbers.
You can use the leads for everything and anything. It doesn’t have to be for here (We Got Friends).
We Got Friends affiliates are also provided access to a “Digital Hacks Video Training Library”, as well as discount savings apps.
We Got Friends affiliates are able to sell leads to retail customers, however this has nothing to do with the MLM opportunity.
We Got Friends’ Compensation Plan
We Got Friends charges affiliates $20 plus $69.95 a month.
These fees are used to pay recruitment-based commissions and bonuses.
We Got Friends pays recruitment commissions down three levels of recruitment (unilevel):
- level 1 (personally recruited affiliates) – $30
- levels 2 and 3 – $5
We Got Friends pays residual commissions via a binary compensation structure.
A binary compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a binary team, split into two sides (left and right):
The first level of the binary team houses two positions. The second level of the binary team is generated by splitting these first two positions into another two positions each (4 positions).
Subsequent levels of the binary team are generated as required, with each new level housing twice as many positions as the previous level.
Positions in the binary team are filled via direct and indirect recruitment of affiliates. Note there is no limit to how deep a binary team can grow.
At the end of the weekly pay period, We Got Friends affiliates earn 25% of sales volume generated on their weaker binary team side.
Once paid out on, volume is matched against the stronger binary team side and then flushed.
Any leftover volume on the stronger binary team side carries over into the following pay-period.
We Got Friends pays a Matching Bonus on residual commissions earned by personally recruited affiliates.
The Matching Bonus percentage is not disclosed.
Global Loyalty Bonus Pool
We Got Friends takes an undisclosed percentage of company-wide fee volume and places it into the Global Loyalty Bonus Pool.
The Global Loyalty Bonus Pool is shared between We Got Friends’ “top performers”. Presumably this criteria is tied to direct and indirect recruitment.
Joining We Got Friends
We Got Friends affiliate membership is $20 one-time plus $69.95 a month.
We Got Friends Conclusion
While the pirated streaming side of Legends VIP Network collapsed last year, the company’s website is still up.
On said website you’ll find Legends VIP Network has been repurposed to shill, among other things, “biz opp leads”.
This change occurred in late 2022. Reading between the lines; We Got Friends is a continuation of this shill, selling The Conversion Pros leads through We Got Friends.
The problem is We Got Friends is a $20 and then $69.95 a month pyramid scheme.
Leads can be sold to retail customers but, as noted, this has nothing to do with the MLM opportunity.
We Got Leads as an MLM opportunity can be broken down as follows:
- pay $20 and $69.95 a month
- recruit others who do the same
- get paid
This is a classic MLM pyramid scheme, in line with every MLM opportunity Val Smyth has launched over the years. And with the CashFX Group Ponzi collapsing, David Brooks has come along for the ride.
You might have come across We Got Friends being pitched as “We Got Friends Nitroline”.
Nitroline refers to an automated marketing system, likely pulled from The Conversion Pros.
As with all MLM pyramid schemes, once affiliate recruitment dries up so too will recruitment commissions.
Unless new victims are found, those at the bottom of the We Got Friends pyramid will eventually stop paying their $69.95 a month.
This will see those above them stop getting paid, and eventually also stop paying their $69.95 a month.
Once enough affiliates stop paying their monthly fee due to lack of recruitment, We Got Friends collapses.
Math guarantees the majority of participants in a pyramid scheme lose money.
Update 24th October 2023 – We Got Friends has collapsed. Val Smyth is now reportedly funnelling victims into Got Backup?