Principe files for harassment order in OneCoin Ponzi PR lawsuit
Not content with filing a frivolous lawsuit over lost Ponzi PR earnings, Chris Principe has now filed for a “Preliminary Injunction Order Against Harassment”.
Principe claims defendant Tim Curry is ‘threatening him and accusing him of criminal activity in the foulest, most vitriolic language possible‘, and has asked the court to silence him.
In his motion Principe describes himself as a “consultant in transaction banking, finance and technology”.
He doesn’t mention his direct involvement in promotion of the OneCoin Ponzi scheme.
For the most part Principe rehashes issues in his original complaint, primarily that Curry is harassing him over Twitter.
The failed Skyway Capital Ponzi PR deal is also brought up (which Principe attributes to Curry’s actions). Part of that also includes BehindMLM’s published Skyway Capital review.
As he’s done before, once again Principe materially misrepresents BehindMLM’s classification of Skyway Capital as a Ponzi scheme.
Due to Skyway’s relationship with Principe, Skyway was also identified as a Ponzi scheme by BehindMLM and Curry.
Skyway did not want to be associated with Principe because of the adverse effect it would have on Skyway’s business, reputation, and ability to find investors.
Skyway canceled its agreement with Principe in 2017 because Skyway found statements by Curry on the Internet linking Principe directly as a promoter of a Ponzi scheme and Skyway did not want to be associated with Principe.
As has been pointed out before, BehindMLM reviewed Skyway Capital in August, 2016.
In our review we concluded Skyway Capital was a Ponzi scheme because like all Ponzi schemes, they used newly invested funds to pay existing investors an advertised 22% ROI.
Principe and his involvement in the promotion of OneCoin was not mentioned anywhere in the review. Nor was it a factor in determining the likelihood of Skyway Capital operating as a Ponzi scheme.
But I digress. Other than that inaccuracy as far as BehindMLM’s Skyway Capital review goes, the rest of Principe’s motion focuses on communications directed at him by Curry.
After this action commenced, Curry sent Principe a request to connect with him on the social networking site LinkedIn.
The request was accompanied by a message:
“I’m going to help put you in jail . . . In my opinion, you are a STUPID MOTHERF****R for f***ing with me, you piece of sh**. [W]ait for it!”
Principe has declined or ignored these requests.
However, whenever Principe declines them, Curry sends another request with another harassing message.
Similarly, when Principe ignores them, they expire after thirty days, at which point, Curry sends a new one.
In addition to sending messages on LinkedIn, Curry has been tagging Principe in a barrage of harassing Tweets.
In addition to sending messages on LinkedIn, Curry has been tagging Principe in a barrage of harassing Tweets.
For instance, on September 8, 2017, Curry sent Principe Tweets at 4:05 a.m., 4:07 a.m., 4:10 a.m., and 5:29 a.m., to name a few.
On September 18, 2017, Curry sent Tweets at least at 2:27 a.m., 9:02 a.m., 9:12 a.m., 9:16 a.m., 9:22 a.m., and 9:43 a.m.
On September 19, 2017, Curry again unleashed a series of Tweets, and on September 20, 2017, Curry Tweeted at Principe at least at 7:09 p.m., 7:29 p.m., and 7:35 p.m.
Many of these Tweets also copied the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Federal Bureau of Investigation and include:
- “U attack ME for EXPOSING UR ASS??? I won’t stop EXPOSING YOUR ASS until UR in JAIL”;
- “Tell your attorney, Howard Kroll, I’m calling you an accomplice to PONZI, ON THE RECORD!”;
- “FEDS! Follow ALL DRAMA by searching ‘Chris Principe’ on this site [website]”;
- “HEY FEDS!!! FOLLOW THE WIRE FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING TRAIL!”;
- “U guys must already have SEVERAL of these intl economic criminal in your Watch list.”;
- “FOLLOW THIS THREAD TO FIND ECONOMIC CRIME. PLEASE TAKE ACTION.”;
- “That’s correct I have dates n which Principe met w/ OTHER OC scammers to fund his case”;
- “Chris Principe appears 2B a serial scam opportunist who’ll enable Money Laundering opportunities to infamous criminals”;
- “You’re going down too, scammer. Enjoy while you can.”;
- “I WILL B TESTIFYING AGAINST U N FEDERAL COURT WHEREIN U R THE DEFENDANT & THE SEC IS THE PLAINTIFF U A**HOLE! WASTE MY TIME!? F-YOU!”;
- “Better seek a new career, because this industry DOESN’T WANT YOU SCAMMERS!”; and
- “Scammers get kicked out of ‘blockchain events.’ Sorry Chris Principe, you scamming pieced shit! Someone figured you out!”
Not withstanding Curry doing himself no favors, his frustration over defending a frivolous (suspected) proxy lawsuit likely indirectly funded by OneCoin.
These are but examples of the near-daily barrage of messages, which are taking up a significant amount of Principe’s time to sort through to reach legitimate messages.
And forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but blocking an account on Twitter and LinkedIn is surely a trivial procedure?
Principe has been using Twitter since 2009 and therefore
enjoys a wide following.As a result, Curry’s harassing messages are being disseminated to a broad audience.
Curry has also begun posting images of Principe and bragging about how Principe has been un-invited from events due to Curry’s comments and postings.
If all Curry is doing is pointing out Principe’s connection to Ponzi schemes, is it the association or Curry’s public broadcasting of it to blame?
In addition to LinkedIn and Twitter, Curry is also allegedly contacting Principe via phone.
Curry has begun using the mobile phone messenger application WhatsApp to broaden his efforts to bombard Principe with harassing messages on his mobile phone.
As an example, Curry has added Principe to a group chat message titled “OneCoin Victim Support.”
Curry is barraging Principe with messages at all hours, including the early morning and the middle of the night and is encouraging the 160 other people he has added to the group chat to do
so as well.These messages contain the same type of untruthful and vile allegations and comments contained above.
Again, surely leaving the group and blocking Curry over WhatsApp is a trivial procedure?
Despite obvious remedies to his complaints that for some reason have not been explored, Principe claims Curry’s actions have caused him “significant emotional distress”.
The irony of reciprocal emotional distress filing a frivolous lawsuit for lost Ponzi PR earnings meanwhile seems entirely lost on him.
In response to the filed motion for an injunction, Curry details OneCoin’s Ponzi business model and Principe’s involvement in the promotion of it.
OneCoin has defrauded and harmed people worldwide out of their money, and if not banned, is the subject of warning and investigations.
All of Curry’s publications regarding Principe relate to Pinrcipe’s relationship with OneCoin.
Principe has traveled throughout the world to personally endorse OneCoin in front of crowds of potential investors.
He has also been featured in OneCoin videos distributed by OneCoin worldwide.
In these videos, he is presented as a financial expert, with credible and valuable advice, who endorses OneCoin.
These videos featuring Principe are used to lure people into investing into OneCoin.
Principe has allowed himself to be used in promotional piece(s) put out by OneCoin on the internet.
And here’s where things get really interesting.
Despite his OneCoin promotional efforts being the root cause of Principe’s alleged professional reputation losses, he’s still actively appearing at OneCoin events.
What’s more, it appears Principe has since revealed the true nature of his lawsuit against Curry.
In a recent appearance in August 2017 in Vietnam, speaking to a group of OneCoin investors and potential investors, Principe talked about filing a lawsuit in federal court, to stop a person from spreading “disinformation” about OneCoin.
I’m sorry, what? I thought this whole lawsuit was about Principe’ facing public ridicule and income loss over false connections between him and OneCoin.
(Principe) addressed the OneCoin crowd and himself as “WE”.
He also talks about going after other people that are spreading “disinformation” about OneCoin.
Apparently Principe’s lawsuit is actually about protecting OneCoin’s reputation.
It is statements like this from Principe that primarily fuel speculation that, in one way or another, OneCoin management are behind and funding his lawsuit.
In his defense Curry cites freedom of speech and his First Amendment right to call Principe out.
A preliminary injunction forbidding a person from publishing any false and defamatory statements on the internet was constitutionally invalid as prior restraint due to lack of trial or determination of the merits.
Also raised as a defense is Principe’s placing of himself directly within the OneCoin “controversy”.
Principe has willingly, openly, and aggressively, placed himself in this controversy.
Although Curry’s speech may be coarse at times, his right to challenge and inquire outweigh Principe’s freedom from annoyance.
This is especially true since Principe has chosen to align himself with a business steeped in public controversy and criminal investigations.
Within the context of Principe’s appearance at OneCoin events and use of his image in promotional material, Curry argues he should be classified a “limited public figure”.
Public figures have less need for judicial protection because of their greater ability to resort to self-help.
“Public figures usually enjoy significantly greater access to the channels of effective communication and hence have a more realistic opportunity to counteract false statements than private individuals normally enjoy.
Trouble is, Principe can’t deny his involvement in OneCoin. It’s fact and not up for dispute.
Failing that, Curry argues Principe has not met the standard for an injunction.
Specifically a lack of evidence showing Curry’s allegedly defamatory statements were made ‘with knowledge of their falsity or with reckless disregard of their trust or falsity‘.
Principe again can’t provide evidence disproving Curry’s claims because… well, they’re true.
A hearing to decide Principe’s motion has been scheduled for December 1st. Stay tuned…
Update 2nd December 2017 – The hearing for Principe’s harassment motion has been delayed till December 22nd.
Update January 4th 2018 – On January 3rd Chris Principe’s motion for a harassment order was denied.
Update 12th April 2018 – As per a March 30th agreement, a settlement between Chris Principe and Tim Curry has been reached.
Principe is delusional, but that Curry fellow needs to get a life, me thinks. How whiny can one get?
As strange as it may seem to some people, there are more than a few good people to whom a multi million / billion dollar fraud being perpetrated on the naive and gullible is worth exposing, ESPECIALLY when those whose job it is to prevent such fraud seem to be unable or incapable of doing so.
@BMLM
I want to share the specific and, frankly, shocking video clip of Chris Principe on-stage in Phu Quoc, Vietnam from his recent OneLife “Leadership calling himself and Onecoin “Success Summit” this August.
He identifies himself, Leaders and other scammers/ members as “WE.” This happens NOT once. Not twice. But 3x(!!!)
It begs the question can “WE” be interpreted as anything else??? NOPE! The ONLY answer that makes sense is what everyone in the building has in common: collectively “We” are: “Onecoin/ OneLife Network. “WE.”
SOURCE: youtube.com/watch?v=xPmHk7R7048
TRANSCRIPT:
**Also, what sort of “kind assistance might Principe be referring to if not money?
According to an anonymous informant who has given myself and a team investigating this invaluable information in the past, which has been relayed to Authorities,Chris Principe was in London just prior to being in Sweden at some Onecoin related Leadership event, back around April of this year, “to meet with around 25 ‘Top Leaders in order to raise money to file a lawsuit again you!”
He went on to say that the Attorney Principe is working with is well known and not cheap.” This informant stated that one of the Islam brothers committed 25,000.
Additional contributions are alleged to have come from Tom McMurrain, Juha Parhiala, and Kari Wahlroos, specifically, but others Onecoin Top Leaders (including defected ones).
Presumably, this would leave a paper trail, unless, ironically, paid in actual cryptocurrency – something Kari Wahlroos has used, instead of Onecoin to add both a McLaren and Ferarri to his already ridiculous sports car collection, purchased with stolen ponzi funds. SEE: delfi.lv/auto/zinas/foto-latvijas-dzeltena-ferrari-turetaja-lepojas-ar-jaunako-pirkumu-sarkanu-mclaren.d?id=48785299
McMurrain, I would assume, because I’ve given him a lot of hell for continuing his scamming career financially raping his victims, which put him in prison for 68 months for PONZI FRAUD back a bit over a decade ago.
And also, because McMurrain is one of the only people in Onecoin (now CoinMD Ponzi) who has any decent understanding of crypto, yet continuously lies through his teeth about such elementary knowledge (bitcoin being “a company,” etc).
Parhiala, I would assume, because of the DIRECT banking channels which were set up for him through the website: Papa1coin.com (now disabled) in the Registrant name of Trade Solutions Group – for which Chris Principe was (is?) Vice President of, with CEO/ Partner and friend, Herve LaCorne.
whois:
The “TECHNICAL CONTACT” and “ADMINISTRATIVE CONTACT” is also the same: LaCorne & Trade Solutions Group.
While Chris Principe has mysteriously erased all his affiliation and history from his LinkedIn, the internet doesn’t forget, and ironically, neither does Financial IT!
SEE IMAGE:image.isu.pub/140421064559-0a1c5934380c8cdb503d75e931367547/jpg/page_1.jpg
^^^ooopsie!
Trade Solutions Group had also registered several additional websites in the “moonlearning series” which funneled new recruits money and Team Leaders payments up the pyramid chain towards the top, such as:
*us2moon.com is (now was) registered to Principe’s business partner: Herve LaCorne / Trade Solutions Group
*The whois info and the website itself was JUST scrubbed from the internet within only the past 4-6 days!!! Is someone trying to cover their tracks, you might wonder!?!?
Timing wise, us2moon.com was registered on November 30th, 2015. This would have been just one month before we began seeing teasers of the Ruja “Winter Issue” coming out, which eventually was reverted to “February.”
Info linking it to TSG is preserved HERE: siteleaks.com/www.us2moon.com
And a “Onecoin Partners Support Page” explains:
According to comment #36 in this BMLM article: https://behindmlm.com/companies/onecoin/onecoins-china-unionpay-cards-disabled-public-exchange-denied/ (see also comment #22 for Principe interviewing LaCorne …actually much great info here)
– jpy.jp2one.com is (now was) registered to Principe’s business partner: Herve LaCorne / Trade Solutions Group (Japan).
All of these sold so-called “Gift-Codes” and did so at a mark-up, cause Trade Solutions Group and its employees/ partners who brokered the deal surely had to get paid. Right?
On page 41 of Fin-Future (Chris Principe’s OTHER magazine with Ruja Ignatova on the cover), which only produced a single issue back around August of last year, Herve LaCorne is again featured in a 2-page article followed by a full page/ full color advertisement for Trade Solutions Group.
Herve’s article is preceded by an article alleged to be authored by Ruja Ignatova, herself (although it sounds like Chris, which I’m working on further evidence for – see pages 30-34), and is followed by a full page/ full color advertisement for OneWorld Foundation (Ruja’s likely money laundering “charity” also under investigation, by UK Charity.org).
The Ruja article and OWF ad is followed by an article from Mufti Abdul Kadir Barkatulla, titled: “CRYPTO-CURRENCIES AND ISLAMIC FINANCE: HOW DOES SHARIA VIEW CRYPTO-CURRENCIES?” The mufti was also in attendance the event which helped procure a brief Sharia Compliance CEert for OC’s Coin(un)Safe Program.
Surprise, surprise! Chris Principe was a keynote speaker at this *The Abacus Ethical Investments Leadership Summit on Islamic Finance & CryptoCurrency SEE: ifccleaders.com/single-post/2016/08/02/1st-IFCC-Leadership-Summit-makes-History
*Note: on IFCC website image above, Chau Nguyen (pictured 2nd from left) is the CEO of OlePay. OlePay has also used various payment rails, same as or similar to the “moonlearning” and “trident” series to enable payments to “Yocoin,” a pump and dump altcoin with recruitment, covered by BMLM on Jul.23, 2016, as well as other alleged scams.
Interestingly, OlePay offices and Trade Solution Group offices are located within the same building in City of Industry, California. I believe this is no coincidence.
I have many images of Principe, LaCorne, and Nguyen both together at various events, as well as separate with such interesting folks as Nigel Allan, Bjorn Thomas, with the alleged and infamous Christian Hegglesen(sp?) (whose image is not confirmed because he is quite elusive), but also each of them with Sebastian Greenwood, Juha Parhiala and other Onecoin Top Leaders/ other scammers.
There also seems to exist a significant connection between Trade Solutions Group and Sal Leto and his side-kick Maurice Katz. Katz is alleged by an informant to (have been) the banker or “buffer” between Juha Parhiala and Herve LaCorne. Leto, of course a Pro-Coin Founder who admitted to acquiring Onecoin USA victim distribution lists directly from Ruja to start that gig.
PROOF: onecoin-eu.quora.com/Did-US-OneCoin-Recruitment-Go-Underground-iPro-Network-Proxy-Scam
Anyway, following the page 35-38 Sharia article is ANOTHER full color/ full page advertisement for Onecoin directly (page 39). Chris “I never got paid by blah, blah, blah…” Principe also fails to mention the fact that he published TWO covers of convicted criminal Ruja and such asvertisements, in his Complaint against me.
HERE IS THE FULL ISSUE: juvo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/FinFuture-TheForum-InaugurationIssue-Oct2016.pdf
The deeper I dig, the more I wonder if Onecoin is not a collaborative ponzi designed and run by some of those mentioned in this comment, along with these crooked bankers, or if the bankers, like Principe, joined in the fun later. Either way, a few things are for sure:
Chris Principe was VP or a business partner with Herve LaCorne at Trade Solutions Group during the time us2moon.com was registered to be used for Onecoin Gift Codes and payments rails (and who knows what else), as Onecoin banks began shutting down increasingly.
Chris Principe began publishing plans for the Ignatova cover almost immediately thereafter, and despite many of us here writing Consumer Advocacy letters, emails and/or phone calls; *which he ignored.
*NOTE: if anyone else who wrote FinanceShell IT a letter back then and can retrieve it, I need it 😉
Trade Solutions Group didn’t establish Onecoin payment rails NOT to financially profit from victim’s losses (Onecoin was an obvious scam since the beginning and these guys had to have known it, otherwise why the fake magazine and sticking with it for the past 2 years?)
Here is my final gem: VIDEO OF CHRIS PRINCIPE AND HERVE LACORNE (TRADE SOLUTIONS GROUP) BOTH TOGETHER …PROMOTING ONECOIN ONSTAGE IN CAMBODIA!!
youtu.be/6HI122OyStQ
Becomes more and more diabolical for every day.
Tim, you are doing a great job to fight against these diabolical people. Please take good care of your self.
@Littleroundman
How does bombarding a scammer with silly messages full of effing and jeffing help expose them?
Obviously Tim is the good guy here but sending all these messages doesn’t help his case and was a waste of time he could have used to build evidence against Principe or uncover other scammers.
The fact that Principe could have blocked his messages is not a very good defence. If brought up in court Principe can say that it would have been a waste of time as Tim would simply have registered another account.
Would that be the response of the lazier side of marketers? If we didn’t have people like Curry calling out what we see as pretty obvious then these Scams would be free to run rampant.
Besides we all know and knew what OneCoin was before it even made the news as a ponzi but the problem was nobody else knew.
Also is Pincipe so dumb as to not know how to block people harassing him from social media? Maybe he is looking for attention. Who knows for sure?
Either way if you join something before researching it and then pimp it to a lot of people only to find it called out for what it is then you can expect to receive backlash. This is on Principe and no-one else because he knew exactly what he was getting into the day he joined.
If you are referring to those who seek the truth to be revealed as ‘whiny’ you need to make sure you never get involved with this type of scheme because your hopes of justice are slim with that attitude.
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I have been threatened with lawsuits stemming from John Barrett -a low level Pioneer who started OneCoin here in Ireland in January 2015.
Eventually with mediation he agreed to a financial settlement for his various debts and actions -including coercion and attempted blackmail but pulled out of the settlement in September 2016 indicating that his back was being covered financially by his two uplines -Karlsson (who appears to have defected)and Peter Shaw who originally grew up in Ireland, lived in Holland but is now beyond easy reach in Thailand.
Threatened writs started in December 2016 from a celebrity lawyer here in Ireland -Gerald Kean (Look him up for his current list of difficulties with the Law Society, Tax man and drink driving etc.
Barrett left Ireland in early 2017 for Portugal after he was doorstepped by a newspaper regarding his OneCoin and his previous activities with Banners Brokers which went belly up owing millions over here.
He successfully gained a temporary high court injunction which he certainly could not afford to cover so the issue now is whether he will get further financial resources from the same sources etc for a recent writ for defamation that he has served.
MAYBE THE LEADERS STILL HAVE A POT WHICH IS BEING DWINDLED BY THE LIKES OF PRINCIPE AND BARRETT?
Surprisingly, OneCoin has, in the last week offered me my original investment moneys back as a “gesture of goodwill” after I appeared on a popular radio show (Liveline rte 1 October 11th 2017) for which I am seeking some clarification eg why am I asked to provide KYC documentation for educational products and pointing out that I have received hate emails and threats and have no intention of sharing my address with any one associated with OneCoin who could not keep confidentiality through their uplines.
We want Tim to win against Principe and indeed I am not up to speed with the alleged German case and also Bjorn’s case in Scandinavia.
Any shareable updates?
Definitely not the route I would have gone, but this is Tim’s first, and probably last, scambusting adventure.
Being that Tim is a fan of legit cryptocurrencies, I think his passion tends to lead to a bit of overzealousness.
I really don’t think he was prepared for the extraordinary amount of frustration that comes with knowing something is a scam and then having to watch authorities do absolutely nothing for months or years, if ever.
Just naming names when it comes to scammers puts you at risk of frivolous lawsuits like the original one Principe filed, but tagging and messaging scammers who clearly aren’t interested in engaging opens you up to additional headaches like this suit.
I won’t be surprised if Tim is ordered to cease any further interaction with Principe on the social media front, but I don’t see it having any negative impact on the primary case.
Oh please.
You watch too much TV.
@malthusian… Curry’s language is exactly my point. Where I reside, as an example, he could be brought up on Privacy&Communication charges for his f-bomb tirades; I am certain there are other States with similar statutes.
Being a crusader is one thing, stooping to the level of the O’coiners quite another.
@LRM/ Malthusian
@ChrisBailey
@viribusunitas:
I do not have a bunch of “dummy” accounts laying around. Nor do I create multiple accounts to cloak myself when addressing people promoting the Onecoin scam (or Bitconnect or others).
I use MY accounts and my accounts alone, which is: TimTayshun both on FB and Twitter (@ezCoinAccess).
“TimTayshun” is a an old DJ moniker which I adopted as my “handle” over a decade ago beginning on MySpace, FYI.
However, to that point, a bunch of idiot OneCULTists have created numerous fake profiles in my name across social media and the internet, including LinkedIn (I had removed), Twitter (their admins are unresponsive), YouTube (along with a video attempted smear campaign), a website which hilariously tried to besmirch me but does the opposite IMO: tim-tayshun.com, and at least a dozen others, including FourSquare and scattered sites around the world.
Having the promoter of a billion dollar fraud company, presumably financially backed by $100M’s plus in stolen Ponzi funds, frivolously sue you in Federal Court for publicizing consumer advocacy information to warn the general public about an OBVIOUS #KleptoCurrency scam is insanely stressful and a gross injustice!!!
In trying to assist and prevent victimization by these scammers, I myself became a victim. So, sorry if my texts don’t read like a Jane Austin quote.
It’s equivalent to running across the street to prevent a purse snatcher from stealing from am old lady and facing a jay-walking ticket for doing so TIMES 1,000!
Couple that with fielding messages and phone calls from victims like Layla Bogen, who invested £52,400 which she had shocked away for the past 20years, little by little, and hearing the desperation and depression in her voice, and you might imagine that emotional out-lashes against her and so many others If their perpetrators willful complicense and outright endorsement of such fraud can reach a boiling point.
Sure, hindsight is 20/20. But I’m human, I Have emotions, I’m frustrated with this scam still robbing people and I’m sick of people like Principe who either don’t care about or actually aim to take advantage of naive or under-educated victims, falsely using the appeal of CRYPTOCURRENCY to Do So.
Witness and Victim Declarations are in:
pacermonitor.com/public/case/21058933/Chris_Principe_v_Timothy_Curry
Been there, done that…. over a decade ago.
As a moderator on a now defunct anti-scam forum I helped gather names, addresses, loss amounts, etc. to be forwarded to every authority we felt might take some action.
I mostly communicated with victims through the messaging system but still had to take in the stories. One member was the sister of a die-hard believer/promoter of the scam. Her sister had talked their retired parents into sinking much of their retirement funds into it shortly before it crashed.
Good bye retirement…. back to work go the senior citizen parents.
For others: Homes were lost. Families were torn apart. Lives were ruined.
Guess what…. nothing was ever done to the owner other than a slap on the wrist notification from the Indiana securities division.
It was one of the larger ones back then, but pales in comparison to the size of today’s scams.
If you have a heart and a soul, unlike so many of the scammers you’re fighting, it tears you up inside. Personally, I’m still not fully recovered.
Do not forget Tim is acting under his identity just as you (spoken in religous or law terms) would suppose anybody to do.
Easy it is talking shit behind troll ids or kind of anonymous accounts that make you say the worth of shit. or sell the worst of shit.
btw where was that first evidence of oc being a real cryptocurrency?
Even with a “Free Trial” account you have to pay 5 USD per document. Can we get these documents somewhere for free?
@OneCon Expert
I’ll try to upload these to a cloud tonight so they can bee shared.
I downloaded the November docs into a folder at goo.gl/N8K7f4
I think I shared to folder correctly so you could view the docs in it.
Getting docs from pacer.gov/ is $0.10 but currently you aren’t charged unless your account goes over $15 in a quarter.
@Tim
WELL DONE WITH WHAT YOU ARE PREPARING FOR AND CHASING IN THESE LAST MINUTE DECLARATIONS.
Principe has probably chosen to send the harassment claim now to stress you so important to allow yourself time to think and prepare the logic /detail of your defence.
The law will look for logic and detail in your defence which will be balanced by the jury also seeking to appreciate your motivations and caring emotions.
TAKE IT AS EASY AS YOU CAN AND GET OFF THE NET–focus on dec 2nd.
Regards
@Chris Bailey: thanks, I have downloaded the November docs before your post disappeared. Great that a number of people have the guts to speak out.
@OneConExpert …. You’re welcome.
I edited the post a couple times to make sure the hyperlinks weren’t active, which apparently put it into moderation. It will probably turn back up.
Again, the folder I put the November docs in is goo.gl/N8K7f4
Onecoin’s relationship with another unregistered charity is allegedly drawing scrutiny from the U.K. Charity Commission according to the following blog.
As I read this and recall, if true, this would seem to be in addition to their investigation into One World Foundation (OWF), which fan-boy Chris Principe has published a full cover/ full page advertisement for in Fin-Future Magazine, in addition to his other Onecoin/ OLN related print promotions and support for the scheme. The fun never ends!
(Ozedit: Link removed, see below)
@Tim Removed that charity blog link as all they did was copy and paste our own article on it: https://behindmlm.com/companies/onecoin/onecoin-laundering-funds-through-unregistered-charity/
A long anticipated 40 min. MAJOR TV News Special on Onecoin FRAUD Titled: Laurent Louise and the Devil’s Coin” will be broadcast next Wednesday, Nov. 22nd, on Radio Télévision Belge de la Communauté Française (RTBF), the Belgium Govt’s own Public Broadcasting Organization, which (I believe) will be broadcast *throughout Belgium, France, parts of Canada, and elsewhere (*citation needed)!
HERE IS THE TEASER (translated from French):
SOURCE: rtbf.be/auvio/detail_devoir-d-enquete?lid=110202
I’m hoping Principe makes a cameo appearance. That would be classic! Hahaha
Chris Principe may not like that we have a November 2016 video of him sitting with fellow Onecoin scammers including “Dr.” Mohammed Zafar (who BMLM just reported his YouTube channel being revoked for violation of YT policies) and Florian Andris discussing Onecoin values and forming a comparison of Onecoin coin price and company value being greater than Wal-Mart, Apple and Alibaba combined.
Not much opposition from Principe to them throwing out a minimum $75 – the lowest “conservative price” prediction in 3years, as “guessed” by an expert panel of renowned economists… errr …I mean OneCULT members contributing to the LiveStream comments.
Thereby, according to their scientific methodology, once the total circulation cap is reached (for the fake/ non-distant coin) the company would be worth “at least triple” of what Alibaba [$435B], Apple [$546B] or Wal-Mart is worth at …at a cool €8.4 TRILLION euro.
While Principe may have begun to SOFTLY make a few lite clarifying interjections, he maintains his composure (and “grin,” mind you) amidst the obtuse economic deductions and implications of a few “clown hats” in upper management (or binary winnings, at least).
Principe clearly let’s them run with the premise of the video without strong noticeable opposition; which is that both Onecoin value and the company itself will become (or is already??) the biggest and most valuable company on the planet.
SOURCE (abbreviated for length): m.youtube.com/watch?v=u6oZ4gDhpws
An important observation to note is that Principe, onstage and at numerous Onecoin/ OLN events, has described the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank’s propensity for printing money and focused in many cases on the definition of and effects of “hyperinflation” to OneCon audiences (full of potential recruits and “re-“investors), is not strongly opposed.
In this video clip Principe is CLEARLY confronted with inflated numbers and knowledge of the fact that a 2.1 billion “fixed” and “finite” total cap of (fake) coins was both hyperinflated and was never “fixed” and “finite” from what OneCULT marketed when he published his FIRST Ruja Ignatova cover for FinanceShell IT Magazine (Feb 2016 [January REPRINT]).
The fact that he was a keynote speaker at the “CoinRush” event on June 11th (London), just prior to Ruja taking the stage and announcing the coming 5700% hyperinflation and coin dilution plan for the “new blockchain” – which never happened) on October 1st; which was magically proposed for the announced “coin doubling” of OneCon account holders; coupled with this video, his “Movers of Our Financial Future” 2nd cover (also featuring Ignatova on a second magazine he published around October 2016) …and finally, the fact that he continued promoting OneCon Ponzi fraud for at least an additional year thereafter, demonstrates that he was cognizant of OneCon hyperinflation mechanisms defying basic principles of economics/ Supply & Demand, dilution and hyperinflation somehow having zero effect on the Onecoin KleptoCurrency PRICE dictated by Ruja’s and the whole scheme.
While Chris Principe’s career as a “banker” seems to be pretty well documented, it is unclear whether he is registered with the SEC or a state securities regulator (a little help?).
However, if so (and possibly otherwise), he would maintain a “fiduciary responsibility” regarding his “economic or investment advice” (as I understand).
As such, a few relative questions and their definitions come to mind:
Do financial advisors have a fiduciary responsibility?
“Investment advisors registered with the SEC or a state securities regulator are fiduciaries, subject to the duty of loyalty and due care with their clients. They are typically compensated by asset management fees and are expected to act in the best interests of their clients.”
What are the duties of a fiduciary?
“A fiduciary duty is the highest standard of care. The person who has a fiduciary duty is called the fiduciary, and the person to whom he owes the duty, is typically referred to as the principal or the beneficiary.
If an individual breaches the fiduciary duties, he or she would need to account for the ill-gotten profit.”
The next contents which I will bring to light in this FRIVOLOUS lawsuit is Principe’s direct involvement in Onecoin payment channels via Trade Solutions Group (of which he appears to have ATTEMPTED to bleach from his social media).
Have fun with that one, Chris!
Tim, I warned you a long time ago about your derogatory use of language coming back to bite you.
Ad hom attacks are irrelevant ego self-massage and only weaken your position. Keep calm, state your case clearly and politely and resist the temptation to indulge in the childish name calling.
From looking at your recent posts, seems like you’re still enjoying being silly, but good luck to you in any case 😉
@DRT
I’ve never been thrust into such a strange quantum reality wherein black is argued to be white and white black. It’s an emotional rollercoaster many magnitudes greater than any other I’ve been on.
Couple that with REAL PEOPLE losing REAL MONEY and falling into deep depression and desperation, which directly affects their own family and friends (which are situations communicated to me regularly) and it becomes impossible to avoid becoming angry at individuals misleading their fellow human beings into turmoil for their own gain.
Thank you for the input. I’ll focus on presenting the evidence needed for my case and to the proper authorities.
tim maybe this helps a bit, all the best.
sorry Oz a bit off topic but not totally 🙂
i.4cdn.org/pol/1493993226750.jpg
Chris Principe’s COMPLAINT FOR DEFAMATION
This is bullsh*t, Twitter does not work this way. If you follow a person, you’ll only see tweets posted BY that person himself, NOT tweets aimed at that person.
Chris Principe’s COMPLAINT FOR DEFAMATION
Funny fact: the “Interview with an American financial expert on SkyWay technology at InnoTrans 2016” (i.e. Chris Principe) is still visible on the official YouTube channel of SkyWay Capital English, published on September 29, 2016.
NOLINK://youtube.com/watch?v=FX2KJx9zVuM
I believe that interview was the first. After that they dropped him.
Another, now FORMER, ambassador of the OneLife/OneCoin family, Ed Ludbrook from New Zealand, recently changed his LinkedIn profile for the third time in six months. Because we saved his LinkedIn page several times, it is possible to compare the versions.
Version saved on 10 May 2017:
Version saved on 15 August 2017:
Version saved on 23 September 2017:
Current version:
It is obvious that with every version, he tries to distance himself further from the company and downplays his role. Not only changed his role from Chief Sales and Marketing Officer/ Asia Ambassador to just “Consultant”, he now explicitly accuses the “CEO” of having misled him.
“I was misled by the CEO and have deep concerns over the company.”
This can imo only refer to OneCoin Founder and Visionary “Dr” Ruja Ignatova.
Another (subtile, but meaningful) difference is, that in the first three versions the last month of his involvement was October 2016, currently it’s September 2016. But we all know what happened on 1 October 2016, the OneLife Mastermind event in Bangkok, Thailand, with the launch of OneCoin Blockchain SIMULATOR Version 2.
Ed Ludbrook was one of the keynote speakers, on stage with Global Master Distributor Sebastian Greenwood.
Some epic fail quotes:
YouTube link: NOLINK://youtube.com/watch?v=lKJ5cjBKCJE
Tweets with Screenshots: NOLINK://twitter.com/OneCoinInsider/status/932162144677842944
Why can’t these ex managment just acknowledge OneCoin is operating as a Ponzi scheme.
We know it, they know it… after using their credibility and reputations to lure who knows how many victims into the scheme, the least they can do is come clean.
@Oz… $hit always stinks, but then again some people think theirs doesn’t.
Well that pretty much sums up his mathematical capabilities.
There are 194 sovereign states on the planet (or 196, depending on whether or not you count in disputed countries like Palestinian territory). And even then to operate in every country you’d be operating in countries with severe international restrictions on business such as North Korea and Syria, as well as countries with ongoing civil war like Afghanistan, Sudan and Somalia.
(And then at least two more, probably Antarctica and Arctic ice cap, LOL.)
That’s one brave networking company!
Simple,
They want to remain in the scamming business by appearing to have left before the proverbial hit the fan.
“Yes, it’s a fraud, but I quit as soon as I realized, so you can trust me when I recommend the next one”
@OneCoinInsider
Something else significant happened on the October 1st date, allegedly (and according to several sources): This was the precise date in which Ruja stripped Ludbrook’s Titles from him and he went from “Asian Ambassador” literally to IMA – he even joked about this on his LinkedIn header!
Ruja, the figurehead of the great deception wanted “yes men, like Kari,” who would go or and do their job and not ask questions.
My sources pinpoint that the October 1st Bangkok Event was where it was confirmed for Ed that a blockchain did not exist. His demotion was a direct result of him “asking too many questions” for more evidence and being denied access or being lied to in the face by Leadership, including Steinkellers and Ruja – and him knowing it.
According to sources (and I don’t mean to sound Gerlachy here, but we get interesting Anonymous tips, as well as tips from people who are simply terrified to come forward by name), Udo Deppisch is alleged to have stated, “who needs blockchain if you have members and *merchants who believe in it as money?”
Since Ludbrook didn’t know the first thing about cryptocurrency (although I had reached out personally to offer to educate him – but was stonewalled and ridiculed, and literally called “a jealous Bitcoiner hater [etc.]” and was brushed off).
I thought that if I could get him on Skype I could both illustrate what blockchain is and its structure, purpose and how it works – which would destroy the illusion of Onecoin having one.
As I recall, the first time I reached out was not very long after the Bangkok event (although I hadn’t yet been informed of the above story or have knowledge that Ed was no longer Asian Ambassador).
By Jan/ February 2017 there we’re rumours from several sources that Juha Parhiala, in Thailand, had beefed up his armed security due to some attempts (at least 2) being taken on his life (pissed high-level investors, allegedly).
Likewise, Sebastian Greenwood was allegedly in the same boat, hiding and jumping from hotel to hotel.
This had apparently gone on for art least 2-3 months (As the story goes), before Juha was able to reach an agreement/ settlement with his debtors whom had purchased massive OLN packages and had figured out the scheme was a fraud/ fake crypto scam.
In February 2017 at a Leaders Meeting, Juha was allegedly *heard telling another leader, “Milk it while you can.” (*note: I referenced this information much earlier this year here)
I later reached out to Ed again maybe around March 2017. Dropped him some hard truths and again challenged him to discuss blockchain. Of coarse, he evaded the invitation.
However, his voice, videos and presence began to slowly fade over the next month or two, and he had completely phased himself out within another 2 months maybe – to start an “ICO Marketing Company.” Uggh.
This was the mass exodus period.
@Tim
Here is something very interesting for your case: youtube.com/watch?v=lPUOA7HSi-4
A guy is showing around OneCoin offices in Dubai. At the end (around 3:30 mark), head of the office Vilisara (?) presents him with a special gift – a copy of FinFuture magazine, signed by Chris Principe particularly for him. The dedication goes:
I found this: “ED LUDBROOK – C.L.O OneCoin” from August 2016:
de.share-your-photo.com/0d8e658f51
Thanks Melanie. It looks like that hyperlink is not valid anymore, but I found it here as well: youtube.com/watch?v=5a_MLTIT1wI
Video saved 🙂
@Garden – RE: “Dear Dr. Parwis (sp?),
So pleased that you are with us!
Best of success to you going forward
– Chris Principe”
“SO PLEASED YOU ARE WITH US”
– Chris Principe.
Well, there’s even more “We”
Lovely. Great find!
Preceding today’s Belgian Govt Broadcast TV Special Report on Onecoin scam, it looks like Russian Public Broadcasting Channel may have best them to the punch, with a 17 minute Special on Onecoin (which also touches on BitConnect).
ANY ONE SPEAK RUSSIAN WHO’S WILLING TO TRANSLATE (or has translation software) TO PRODUCE THE TRANSCRIPT?
Source: youtu.be/K16tLLnUMGQ
Correction: Onecoin Belgian TV Special airs in 24hours.
In YouTube:
– click on gear (wheel) bottom right
– “Subtitles/CC”
– “Russian (auto-generated)”
– again “Subtitles/CC”
– “Auto-translate”
– select “English”
1 Russian Ruble = 0.017 US Dollar
MORE SMOKING GUN TO TSG/ ONECOIN PAYMENT CHANNELS!: Chris Principe and Herve LaCorne (Trade Solutions Group – TSG) both promoted Onecoin, calling themselves “Banking Experts” with 20+ years experience.
TITLE: Chris Principe , Publisher , Financial IT 21/05/2016 (video)
SOURCE: youtube.com/watch?v=6HI122OyStQ
FULL TRANSCRIPT:
VIDEO BEGINS ABRUPTLY WITH PRINCIPE:
Chris Principe:
“…We’d like to see that the cryptocurrencies continue to grow. We’d like to see that these are something that is accessible to everybody.
That they’re not something limited by govt’, by borders, by …value. WE’D like to see that Onecoin IS the value …. and that everything else matches up to Onecoin – all the other currencies.” (applause)
Herve LaCorne:
“I was gonna share a little bit of my experience and the experience today was obviously during the first song, Disruption.
And, uh, that’s how I feel about Onecoin. And that’s why its one of the reasons that its slowly accepted by the banking community. Because of fear …but.. but .. but.. I see there’s a Huge opportunity for Onecoin ..uh ..and a huge differentiator compared to other cryptocurrency.
We live in a world where it takes 3 days for a payment to cross borders. You have to wait for New York to open for a dollar payment.
Or …uh … different currency in different places. Uh ..and we move into an environment where, um, y’know, where bitcoin was one of the leaders. uhh, bitcoin has a lot of challenge that Onecoin doesn’t have.
And, uh, my first experience with Onecoin was sitting in the Uber taxi, in, uh, London. And as I’m coming back from meeting with traditional banker(s) and traditional global payment platform, I’m sitting with this Uber driver who’s asking what I do, I tell him that I’m in the financial world, he says, ‘I wanna get a loan. And this loan I want to have it to buy my car, and, uh, buy some Onecoin.’
And that got me thinking, looking, saying, ‘This is One key difference in Onecoin.
It is the people … the community …which is a global community… whether you’re in China, Vietnam, London, Thailand …you have a huge community of people that support that currency and that will take it way beyond expectation.”
And it took me a little while to realize that. And I say, there’s, uh, we have a job of …as a technology magazine and as bankers to educate the Govt and bankers to really understand the value and power of Onecoin. And, that’s what I enjoy doing.”
Chris Principe:
“Thank you for that (to Herve). One of the things I’d like to say to everyone here, is that we’re really at the beginning of this.
And I’d like to thank everybody in this room, because YOU GUYS, everybody out here, are the true Pioneers, the ones that are stepping up ahead of everybody, the ones who are innovative enough to see the potential.
So, really, give yourselves all a hand as the Pioneers who are changing the financial world. (applause) … And we can(‘t ?) be looking at, as Mr. Herve said, where payments take a long time. WE can be looking at, in the future, where payments are immediate, thanks to Onecoin. WE can look at payments being a lower cost, thanks to Onecoin.
Today, in the world today, what we see is when people make payments to people, generally the poor paying the poor, you pay a high price. Its a tax on the poor.
Onecoin eliminates that. It eliminates things like foreign exchange fees. It eliminates things like banks deciding when you get your money. It eliminates things like when governments decide to get your money.
And, by the way. As we saw recently in China, and I know we have a very impressive chinese contingent here. When the govt decides to devalue their currency ….everybody gets hurt.
*****If you’re in Onecoin, your value stays true. You don’t lose your value. So, the benefits, WE’RE just starting to see. And WE’RE going to see that that grows and that continues.
And again, thank you very much, all of you, for being Pioneers, in the new financial world.
****(TT IMPORTANT NOTE)!!! This Speech was prior to Onecoin devaluing their own currency from 2.1 billion coin cap to 120 billion coin cap – a dilution or hyperinflation of 5700% – illustrating that Principe knew FOR SURE that Onecoin became even more of a scam, yet promoted it for at least 15 additional months AFTER this speech!
(cont.)
Herve LaCorne:
“As Chris mentioned, eliminating …uh …uh ..by-passing some of the financial institutions is a challenge …to be accepted, but it is inevitable. I mean I started in banking when there was no internet.
There was no mobile phone …I had one of the bigger block mobile phones. And it takes time. And if you look at the journey, that has happened over the past year and a half with banking …with Onecoin.
It’s amazing how quickly, and the performance of this ..uh ..currency and company. So, and, this is all y’know, to the credit of Mr. Juha (Parhiala), Sebastian (Greenwood) and Dr. Ruja, uh, that have done an outstanding job in building a huge community, and building the future of the currency …and the future of payments.
Chris Principe:
“And I think uh now I’d like to thank Mr. Herve for his comments. As a banking expert with more years we care to mention in experience, he’s able to see this ahead of a lot of the other bankers.
Bankers are slow to move. Myself, after spending more years than I care to remember …even couple years more than you (Herve) .. in the financial industry, We can see where the future is going. And you guys are the future.
So, we’d like to close by thanking you again, and being able to take part in some of this. And that uh TOGETHER, we’re going to go down that road of seeing the financial community being a community for the people, thanks to Onecoin.
Herve LaCorne:
Thank you very much.
(end)
Reminder: This Event took place almost exactly 2 months after Financial IT had published the February “Ruja cover” REPRINT issue of the original January “Garreth Richardson” cover/ issue.
Trade Solutions Group used some (potentially all?) of the “MoonLearning.com” various websites (most specifically: us2moon, papa1coin and jpy.jpy.com) to facilitate payment to Onecoin Leaders and scammers.
Presumably, setting up these payment rails were not done soley from the kindness of their hearts and altruism towards Ignatova and a future “cryptocurrency” they believed in.
Trade Solutions Group registered their first Domain linked to Onecoin payments on November 30, 2015.
Complete version: NOLINK://youtube.com/watch?v=CIx7zGpJoUU&feature=youtu.be&t=2717
ONECOIN Event in Cambodia 21.5.2016 ( with Vietnamese text)
Another video with Chris Principe from January 2017:
youtube.com/watch?v=drJvDkezubc
@Melanie & OneCon Expert: But Chris Principe’s Complaint only mentions the London Event and Financial IT cover? The more you seek the more you find.
Principe, who has “never been paid by Ms.Ruja Ignatova or Onecoin Limited,” according to the Complaint; and who is not sponsored by (blah, blah, blah) Onecoin Sure has coveted a lot of territory, particularly in Asian countries, speaking about, endorsing and promoting not only Onecoin, but specifically One Whirled Foundation and its suspected money laundering fraud.
The more I dig into Principe, the more I realize that the #2 promoter from USA may be much much more deeply seeded in this scam!
I sure hope FBI, SEC and Dept. Of Justice is all over this blog. Its literally a gold mine! Hopefully by the time I see Principe face to face, he’ll be in an all Orange suit South connected and matching silver bracelets!
@ Timothy Curry
A video from March 2017 called: “Financial IT Magazine Chris Principe on OneCoin and Dr Ruja Ignatova !”
youtube.com/watch?v=_thtCjJdWmQ
So uh, I don’t think Ted Nuyten realized Randy Gage is rubbishing OneCoin…
businessforhome.org/2017/11/randy-gage-speaks-out-against-cryptocurrency-network-marketing-companies/
Ruja on the phone and the article disappearing in 3…2…1…
If he doesn’t realize it, Ted is really very very stupid, it’s so obvious.
But as the header says “BY TED NUYTEN” he must have posted this article himself. Hilarious.
hahaahaa!! Well, if so, maybe he can record it for POE (Proof of Existence).
When you’re mostly copy and pasting PR press-releases for content, it’s easy for the occasional “ruhroh” to slip through the cracks.
“Financial IT – Chris Principe habla de Onecoin (subtitulos español)”
youtube.com/watch?v=jRONzz3gulY
Never expected too see something like that on BS for Home. I got the page archived, in case Ruja makes a call 😀
nolink://archive.fo/tftCC
Maybe Ruja’s already used her phone call allowance?
HAHAHA!
#49 btw is a beautiful short description of onecoin scam!
nope.
that sly shyster nuyten is slyly shifting his position on onecoin, with his first shot being fired from randy gage’s shoulder.
soon it will be – hey, i just present facts as they are presented to me. that bulgarian bi*** ruja misguided me!
if nuyten thinks he can get away with pretending ‘innocence’ after a lifetime of being in the MLM business, he should know the world is smarter than that.
igor krnic, top recruiter and the Great Defender of onecoin, has posted a comment under the BFH gage article complaining that:
really krnic? so gage paid ted nuyten to publish an anti onecoin article? and ruja pays ted nuyten to publish pro onecoin articles?
krnic should address WHY ted nuyten, who’s been playing the role of ruja’s lapdog to perfection for the last couple of years or so, is suddenly publishing anti onecoin articles on his site under his own name?
but no, instead krnic storms off to his own website where has set up a ‘debate’ defending onecoin, and posts an article refuting gage’s article with Silly arguments like:
^^^fullon dimwit arguments rehashed by onecoiners again and again and again.
so, krnic and all the peoples of the onecoin world – why has ted nuyten published an anti onecoin article? want to uh, think for a change?
igor krnic is also claiming that onecoin is being run by a secret management team, because the world is so unkind and tends to kick the ass of anyone who gets himself employed by onecoin:
hmmm, a ‘transparent’ company who’s founder is on permanent maternity leave and secret management – the exact configuration of a genuine company!
In a reply to Tim Tayshun’s post Igor Krnic wrote this on his onecon-debate site:
Interesting.
So Ruja Ignatova herself, on stage during the OneLife Mastermind Event on 1 October 2016, shouting
did not convince him. Hilarious.
Sure.. What kind of logic is that?? Heisenberg’s Coin?
Also long you don’t look in the box it has both states?
Existent and non-existent at the same time?
Truly hilarious 😀
Yeah, the mafia. We’ve known that for ageeeeeeeeeeeeees.
Inbe4gerlach.
it’s the [un]certainty logic of high quantum fools also called onecoiners.
the blockchain reveals itself in their special version of reality which is super powered by ruja’s high IQ [ it’s like over 200 gazillion or something!]
but their cunning little blockchain is not visible to poor little you because you’re sooo in the wrong reality.
take a quantum leap of faith….
That’s Russell’s Teapot case. In short it calls:
That is 100% correct – it is impossible to prove something like that wrong, but that does not mean it’s true either! The person who makes the claim needs to also provide the evidence or the claim can be considered baseless.
Same with oneCoin blockchain; lot of reasons to believe it does not exist and it is the responsibility of the OneCoin Ltd. to provide the evidence supporting its existence.
Well, well, well, look who just popped up at Onecoin/ OLN latest big Event “The ONE,” in Kuala Lumpur! Chris Principe himself!
SOURCE: youtube.com/watch?v=y-D9mEVXo48 [15:20]
I’m dumbfounded!
Tim. Get a feeling P’s brain is filled with hay. Complete fool.
RE:”Laurent Louis and The Devil’s Coin” –
If not already posted, here’s the full Onecoin investigation/ TV Special (40 minute segment in French) from RTBF: Belgium’s Public Broadcasting Channel:
wuweitactic.com/2017/11/26/rtbf-onecoin-laurent-louis-et-la-monnaie-du-diable-24-11-2017/
RTBF – OneCoin, Laurent Louis and the Devil’s Currency is on YouTube:
NOLINK: youtube.com/watch?v=woJjrL-Aoa4
For English subtitles:
– Click Settings (gear/wheel bottom-right)
– Subtitles/CC
– French (auto-generated)
– Subtitles/CC (again)
– Auto-translate
– English
@Onecoin Insider – “RE: Click settings…”
This does NOT work on Android, which I rely on during extended periods occasionally. Thank you though.
We found the source of Chris Principe’s infamous “When I first heard about OneCoin, I thought it was either a scam or a pyramid scheme” quote.
It is displayed in a OneCoin State of the Nation YouTube video, presented by Paul Smith, published on 25 February 2016.
NOLINK://youtu.be/DnGYzUV_tHk?t=53
The Bank of Portugal (Banco de Portugal) issues a warning against OneLife Network Limited, OneCoin Limited and One Network Services Ltd (Google Translate from Portuguese):
NOLINK://bportugal.pt/comunicado/entidades-nao-habilitadas-receber-depositos-ou-outros-fundos-reembolsaveis-onelife
There is an English version as well: NOLINK://www.bportugal.pt/en/node/245884
Thanks for the heads up, on it.
Unbelievable! Chris Principe continues making an extended commitment to his ponzi promoting as a celebrity/ “banking expert,” in the absence of any Corporate Leadership, at this week’s big Onecoin/ OLN “The ONE” Event.
Hilariously, at “The ONE OLN Business Workshop Nov. 28, 2017,” YESTERDAY, in Kuala Lumpur, Chris Principe is seen on video at the Event doing a solo Q&A/ AMA on-stage in front of a crowd of Onecoinists.
After rattling through his “bio,” with focus on banking, software, entrepreneurship and consulting credentials, etc; clearly meant to instill authority and trust in himself as a figurehead; he states that he speaks at numerous banking, FinTech and “cryptocurrency events” around the world, and also claims to be “involved in two blockchain companies.”
QUESTION: Is he or is he not counting Onecoin under this umbrella? And what are these two “cryptocurrency companies” he speaks of?
Note: About 2-3 months back he was involved as an “Advisor” on a project called “EximChain,” but he was apparently kicked out of that (for obvious reasons, assumedly). I believe “Onecoin Countdown” (or “Crypto Xpose”?) on Twitter reported that he was additionally barred from a Keynote Speaker position at “Blockchain West,” this coming March, presumably as a direct result of his long-term promotion of and double magazine cover stories on Bulgarian criminal, Ruja Ignatova and the obvious Onecoin scam.
Anyone paying attention knows that Onecoin is increasingly the butt-end of so many jokes in the cryptocurrency space, and essentially the “measuring stick” by which how “scammy” a person, project or ICO can possibly get.
“BitConnect” and Onecoin, specifically, are the main two punchlines for heckling or demonstrating naivety of “newb” investors across social media which is crypto related. …Oh, Financial IT and Fin-Future were also axed in both incidents above in relation to their project and event, respectively
The Q&A kicks off quickly with Onecoin/ OLN victims in the crowd actually asking some half-way decent questions, finally! Principe suggests that the first questioner’s friend “in finance,” and dual resident of USA and Japan, who pointed out at least one red flag, may be able to join Onecoin despite it clearly not operating in USA.
Principe says that OLN made a decision “at this time” not to be in the U.S. market. Principe, deflecting the obvious, says that he thinks that ” a lot of the reason for this has to do with what U.S. Regulations will be.”
He says that, “at that point then the company will know better how to enter the U.S. market.” Lol!
He goes on: “And. They. For instance, the banks, not only in the US but globally, are also within the same position.
The banks want to understand what the Govt. Regulations for cryptocurrency will be, before they can enter this market.” – HELLO!?!?
“Cryptocurrencies” are borderless. And the company, Coinbase (the Exchange) brokers exchanges in cryptocurrencies, from the USA with multiple cryptocurrencies with fiat currencies in 32 countries and with bitcoin transactions and storage in 190 countries, and has formed partnerships with Dell, Expedia, Time Inc., the New York Stock Exchange USAA and several banks. So, thanks for the B.S. there, buddy!
Of course, Principe is forced to choke or avoid several questions, but also to reveal internal OLN contradictions and false comparisons about all things Onecoin.
At 34:00 the “banking expert and consultant” is sure to assert his version of economic principles regarding “what will happen to the value of the points when the coin goes Public,” etc.
In a priceless analogy, he compares Onecoin to the price of “Chairs” before and after a furniture company “goes public,” stating he doesn’t see a reason why such an event would have affect on price.
Notwithstanding that the Onecoin IPO has been officially abandoned (and ICO in limbo – actually, “Don’t call it an ICO” according to Sebastian Greenwood, but rather, “Public Offering”), Principe flounders through the first question: “Does Onecoin really have a blockchain” ironically suggesting some non/barely existent corporate person should field that tough one (then waffling into some closed source mining “tech” soliloquy), and on to the second question, “Is there any good news about the IPO?”
SOURCE: youtube.com/watch?v=Jk-VMbrAa0Q
funny note: video is aptly categorized under “comedy”
Ironically, Principe spends several of the final minutes of the video discussing “criminal activity,” how he doesn’t like it and how to prevent it through centralized systems (ie., Onecoin), and blockchain, etc.
The video closes with the host (Simon Le? – watched from my tiny phone screen) stating that they “have a date with Chris Principe next year (at the event).”
So, sure doesn’t look like Principe is planning on slowing down his roll, promoting a fake crypto-ponzi scam anytime soon.
Hilarious! Like a Bedtime story.
I wonder if he believes what hes telling. Suppose he will appoint himself to the CEOpost soon.
Oh, I suppose he forgot they were supposed to only sell education, not cryptocurrency? 😀
@MOI
WHAT IF he is/ was and always has been? Lol. (I’m not instigating that, but daaamn! What sort of parallel universe does this character live in??). I’m flabbergasted.
@ Timothy Curry
I found this from Ari Widell on Twitter:
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@Melanie – (RE: Principe scammer getting removed from Blockchain West Event) – nice. Maybe it was Ari who first posted it. I dunno.
@Oz – Sorry for the long transcript, again, but wow. Holy CRAP! Do these people realize that this weekend, at the same event Chris Principe spoke at, Sebastian GreedWould LITERALLY just told EVERYONE that they’re SCREWED!?!?!
I know this was briefly mentioned in another thread, but though it is relative here, in contrast to Principe’s promoting. So, here’s the transcript of the end of Sebastian’s shocking presentation, starting at around 20 minute marker:
SEBASTIAN GREENWOOD (QUOTE):
SOURCE: youtube.com/watch?v=5kzJUQb0-GQ
A whole lot of “free’s” and “funerals” here. Wonder if he’s planning on taking a runner too!?!
This quote: “And we gave you a *FREE project. So congratu-hahaha-lations” is one of the most diabolical things I think I may have ever have heard/ seen in my life! Wicked!
It’s just Principe’s involvement in OneCoin scam biting his ass. It might also be possible that Blockchain West received some letters of unrecommendation about Principe.
I would not be surprised if there was more than one event in addition to Blockchain West turning its back on Principe in the future.
NEW DEVELOPMENT! @OneConExpert – RE: Principe quote (about fake blockchain): “When I first heard about OneCoin, I thought it was either a scam or a pyramid scheme. After researching further and getting an opportunity to interview Dr Ignatova, I was absolutely impressed with the technology backing OneCoin and their blockchain…”
Sorry Chris, I’ve been following a story out of China over the past week, trying to make some sense of it. Well, today, according to this headline, it looks like Xunlei Subsidiary Claims Parent’s OneCoin Project Is an Illegal Fundraising Scheme That Does Not Use Blockchain.>
“Chinese internet giant Xunlei Ltd. [NASDAQ:XNET] has been fighting with its big data subsidiary, who said that Xunlei’s OneCoin cryptocurrency project does not use any blockchain technologies and is part of a system to illegally raise funds.”
More from SOURCE: yicaiglobal.com/news/xunlei-subsidiary-claims-parent’s-onecoin-project-illegal-fundraising-scheme-does-not-use
@Oz – If you follow the story, you’ll see that unless they’ve been talking about a different “Onecoin” this whole time and different One Cloud, etc.; which I initially believed to be the case, the scale of deception to which shady Onecoin fraud promoters will go to attempt false legitimization is astonishing!
To push such a facade at this level to affect a major stock price to move significantly requires high level co-operation, some of which we can only guess. Earlier this week I was trying to find some connection, potentially, with Li Dexin or others, but had limited time to dig that channel, due to other more pressing projects.
More on Xunlei controversy:
SOURCE: technode.com/2017/11/29/xunlei-stock-price-slipped-1/
And: “A forgotten Chinese tech company is making waves on NASDAQ after announcing its “not an ICO” coin”: technode.com/2017/11/23/xunlei-nasdaq/
I’m still not 100% clear whether or not this is the same “Onecoin.” Stay Tuned as we try to sort this out.
Just being careful here but there is some indication that Xunei’s one coin isn’t Ruja’s OneCoin. I’m seeing a lot of comments on Seeking Alpha about Xunei, a lot of it negative. For a quick thumbnail on the company:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xunlei
Without claiming to come to a conclusion my guess here is that this isn’t OneCoin related, it could just be one of the stupidest possible name use mistakes in recent memory.
A recent SA article of interest: seekingalpha.com/article/4126488-xunlei-significant-regulatory-trouble-avoid
Zero evidence that this Xunei OneCoin is related to the Bulgarian scam version.
Other than the OneCloud coincidence, I haven’t been able to link Xunlei to the Bulgarian OneCoin either.
Xunlei has been popping up on my radar for the past few weeks. I have no idea how two companies can have OneCoin and OneCloud but it appears to be the case.
@Oz & etc – …add to that the “no blockchain” and “ICO that’s not an ICO” and you have a pretty compounding coincidence. Lol.
Yeah, it’s quite remarkable in the grand scheme of things.
no wonder we are called haters. tim you have a major case this week. keep calm.
@cryptokill – it’s been pushed back to the 22nd, which is great considering all the new Kuala Lumpur material from this week alone! Lol!
This is the news I read directly from Chinese site was Xunlei (迅雷 trans: Rapid Lightning) is launching a cryptocurrency called 玩客幣 (trans: player’s coin) which will be a part of a reward for players to keep their FastDownloader installed (which will do some “mining” in the background).
The naming may be unfortunate. Xunlei’s cloud storage device is apparently named OneCloud, so someone dubbed their player’s coin “OneCoin”.
It’s NOT related to Rujamama’s OneCoin.
@Kasey Chang – thumbs up and thanks for the clarification. As Oz also observed earlier, it’s something I saw begin to make its rounds a week and a half ago or so.
The Source listed in Comment #81 actually used an image of “our Onecoin” – likely due to the same 4 anamolies mentioned in more recent comments.
I wonder why nobody punched him in his face at that moment?
Pretty sure it will happen. People should know now that they got screwed 100% by the OC bosses, who bought sports cars and yachts and houses with their money.
Time to wake up. It’s so disgusting. I hope they all rot in prison.
Timothy Curry linked to this video in comment #74:
youtube.com/watch?v=Jk-VMbrAa0Q
Now I’m very disappointed, because I have to read:
The same with the video in comment #79:
youtube.com/watch?v=5kzJUQb0-GQ
But this video with Chris Principe still exists. He stands alone on stage in Kuala Lumpur:
share-your-photo.com/4055411607
share-your-photo.com/e51f2a0434
youtube.com/watch?v=JN1GidpEa1o
Uploaded by Geri Savini, the bankrupt serial scammer who fled Europe to Paraguay:
share-your-photo.com/43c6b5633f