Principe’s harassment injunction hearing delayed till Dec 22nd
Initially scheduled to take place on December 1st, the hearing on Principe’s harassment injunction motion has been delayed.
On November 16th a joint stipulation was filed requesting the December 1st hearing be continued to December 22nd.
The parties do not enter into this stipulation for the purposes of delay but instead do so because they reasonably believe that, if the hearing is continued, they may be able to resolve the issues presented in the motion without requiring the Court to issue a ruling on the motion.
The parties’ respective counsel have discussed this matter and reasonably believe they may be able reach a stipulation concerning a compromise on the relief sought in Plaintiff’s motion, thus potentially allowing Plaintiff to withdraw parts of or the entire motion.
Details of the negotiations between the two parties have not been made public as at the time of this update.
On November 17th Chris Principe filed a reply to Timothy Curry’s response filing.
In it Principe’s attorney argues
- an injunction order would not restrain Curry’s protected speech
- social media posts are not protected public speech
- Chris Principe is not a public figure or limited public figure
- OneCoin allegedly being a Ponzi scheme and Principe’s alleged promotion of it is not a matter of public interest and
- if the injunction is granted, Curry will “remain free to discuss OneCoin”
One argument in particular struck me as odd, if not outright false, in Principe’s reply.
In the filing Principe’s attorney asserts there’s ‘no evidence that Principe has voluntarily injected himself into a public issue‘.
Curry has submitted no admissible evidence demonstrating that Principe voluntarily inserted himself into any controversy.
The only uncontroverted fact concerning Principe’s involvement and its founder is that Principe’s magazine, Financial IT, featured a photograph of Ruja Ignatova on its cover and in an article in February 2016.
There is no evidence on record that any controversy surrounding OneCoin existed when the February 2016 Financial IT article was published.
And all of Curry’s allegations of the continued promotion of OneCoin are not supported by admissible evidence.
As a result, Principe cannot be said to have injected himself into any controversy.
BehindMLM’s published OneCoin review is dated September 23rd, 2014. It currently has 1372 comments and to date has well over a hundred thousand views.
Using February 28th as a benchmark (we covered the PR disaster on February 20th but I’m unsure exactly when the Financial IT issue in question was published), that’s seventeen months prior to February, 2016.
BehindMLM alone had published forty articles covering OneCoin’s Ponzi shenanigans globally, during which four regulatory warnings were issued (Bulgaria, Finland, Sweden and Hungary).
OneCoin also cancelled their US launch, amid fears of a regulatory investigation into their Ponzi scheme.
But uh yeah, totally no “controversy surrounding OneCoin” prior to February, 2016.
The fact of the matter is that by February 2016, OneCoin was a well enough known Ponzi scheme on the radar of multiple regulators. By featuring Ignatova on the cover of Financial IT and continuing to appear at OneCoin events, Principe very much “injected himself into a public issue”.
To be clear this isn’t support of Curry’s conduct towards Principe, I’m just simply pointing out glaring flaws in Principe’s filing.
Stay tuned for an update on the December 22nd hearing.
Update January 4th, 2018 – On January 3rd Chris Principe’s motion for a harassment order was denied.
Update 12th April 2018 – As per a March 30th agreement, a settlement between Chris Principe and Tim Curry has been reached.
By all accounts, Chris Principe continues to promote Onecoin and OneLife Network as recently as last week, traveling to Kuala Lumpur to do so.
In Kuala Lumpur last week, in addition to speaking PUBLICLY, as a PUBLIC FIGURE (or limited PUBLIC FIGURE), whom it would be assumed based on his self-inserted prominence, frequency and duration of support, that a majority of an alleged 3.3 million members (based on the company’s own numbers), Principe was the sole delegate who, whether appointed or volunteered, dedicated an hour onstage during a Q&A to attempt to answer questions from Onecoin/ OLN members regarding numerous Onecoin/OLN related issues.
This included, among numerous other questions, “how ‘going public’ might affect Onecoin price (on a presently Simulated, broken or non-distant “blockchain”).
Principe, a self professed veteran banker (amongst other titles), proceeded to issue false comparisons and analogies, for which Amy banker would have the fiduciary responsibility to comprehend, conflict with reasonable and universal principles of economics – such as by comparing the value of hard assets (specifically chairs/ “furniture”) in a pre and post ‘public offering’ scenario, with that of an “internal” and “dictated” “price” of a (highly questionable and negatively scrutinized) digital asset (Onecoin), both pre and post entering a free market economy.
In contradiction to the value of the aforementioned “chair,” a cryptocurrency price determination is set and defined by supply and demand, and what such an open market would determine as the TRUE value of the alleged digital asset (an unproven but alleged “cryptocurrency”).
Furthermore, despite the Plaintiff’s claim that, “Curry’s allegations of the continued promotion of OneCoin are not supported by admissible evidence.”
“As a result, Principe cannot be said to have injected himself into any controversy;” when Chris Principe, at another recent Onecoin/ OneLife “Leadership Summit,” stated in front of a similar audience of predominently Onecoin investors that,“… WE will win that case. WE will stop that …particular person (that would be yours truly).
And then WE will go after ALL the particular people after him…” ….HE definitely can be said to have “injected himself into any controversy” – if not already in numerous incidents prior to viewing himself on equal terms in interest and alignment with the Onecoin/ OneLife scandal, currently under criminal investigations around the world, banned in numerous countries already, and fined €2.6M in Italy for illegally practicing pyramid sales …in addition to dozens of other Onecoin specific government, banking and watch-dog warnings, internationally and nearly 85 related arrests in approximately 7countries on 3 continents …etc.
For me, Principe was previously no more than a relatively small piece of the massive Onecoin fraud “puzzle.”
Since Principe took it upon himself, perhaps with additional financial and other support from top Onecoin leadership, which is both alleged and evidenced, interest in him and his exact role became more interesting to me.
With Principe having been former “Vice President” of Trade Solutions Group’ and worth his long-time friend and business partner, Herve Lacorne having established and Registered the Domain of the first of several payment rails via “Gift Codes” to top Onecoin leadership, first through the “menu2moon.com platform (Registered to Herve Lacorne and Trade Solutions Group on November 30, 2015), as well as other, possibly many, similar such payment rails (Juha Parhiala’s http://www.Papa1coin.com being another), I discovered that Chris Principe has likely been significantly more deeply involved, presumably both on the banking side of Onecoin/OLN, as well as on the promotion side, than I would have ever imagined.
Tim HAVE YOU MANAGED TO WORK OUT HOW THE SCAMMERS MADE EXTRA PROFIT ON DISCOUNTED GIFT CODES AND HOW FAR DOWN THE CHAINS IT WENT?
ANY CHANCE OF AN ORGANISATION TREE -AT ITS HEIGHT AND NOW?
Bangkok this weekend and no doubt no more light to be shed on the ICO etc other than delay and bullshit.
Remember last years Christmas party message from Rujamama—-10 million members, 1 million merchants and a coin price of 25 Euros. SO ALL TARGETS NOW OFFICIALLY MISSED!!!
I had the opportunity to speak to some blockchain techies last week regarding OneCoin and they had no doubt whatsoever that there was no blockchain whatsover -i didn’t ask them about chairs though so it will be interesting how Principe images this analogy in court.
If any one can take a video of Peter Shaw please post as I have the feeling this will be his last public record as he has been to ground for the last six moomths but hasnot lefy yet -like Karlsson and Wahlroos are suppopsed to have done.
Must be difficult to launch an ICO through an exchange with over 28 million chairs.
BY THE WAY HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT OC IS STUCK AT 3 MILLION AFFILIATES AND NOT RISING — IS ANYONE BUYING?
Tim, have you seen this video?
(Ozedit: Video removed from YouTube as of October 28th, 2018)
At the end of the video it is shown that Mr. Principle has signed a copy of his now-halted FinFuture magazine (presumably from late 2016) to a high profile OneCoin scammer with the text “So pleased that you are with us. Best success to you going forward”.
It was signed in his absence so he had probably “injected himself” into OneCoin Dubai office recently prior to the shooting of the video.
Today OneCoin top scammer Chris Principe appeared on stage during the OneLife Mastermind event in Bangkok.
Principe starts at timestamp -2:58:00
Principe is in Bangkok today at the Onecoin event. Even posed for a pic with my friend as one of the ‘celebrity’ Onecoin reps.
Couple of videos from Mastermind 2017 event in Bangkok:
So, OneLife is trying to organize the leadership again somehow. Very little anything new. Frank Ricketts is supposed to be now some “captain” what ever that means..
Konstantin Ignatov – OneLife Mastermind 2017
Sebastian Greenwood introduces the “new captain” Frank Ricketts – Mastermind 2017
OneLife Mastermind 2017 – Frank Ricketts – “The new captain”
OneLife Mastermind 2017 – Chris Principe
I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE SEEKING AN EX COURT COMPROMISE WITH PRINCIPE OTHER THAN POTENTIAL RISK OF AN ANGRY JUDGE. iF YOU SETTLE OUT OF COURT WILL YOU SIGN ANON DISCLOSURE?
@cryptokill – I’m not settling out of court. Hell no!!
I’m agreeing not to contact Principe directly (ie., phone call, email, LinkedIn messaging, social media, adding him directly to the WhatsApp official Onecoin Victim Support Group to answer angry victims questions, etc). That is all.
I have no interest in signing a non-disclosure. I seek justice for Onecoin victims. And I seek to expose Onecoin and its scammers publicly, particularly too the cryptocurrency and FinTECH community (and Law Enforcement, of course).
Lot of empty seats. Few hundred in attendance?
This is what I was concerned about:
i also am facing a jury trial in the new year from the scammers and like you I hope to bury the plaintiff.
The shame is that these law cases have helped keep the scam going and give the trolls some kind of stupid defence.
Hopefully Principe will be the first to lose in an open transparent court -what has happened to Bjorn’s case, Jennifer’s and the german guy cos they appear to have just gone quiet?
@cryptokill – RE: “what has happened to Bjorn’s case, Jennifer’s and the german guy cos they appear to have just gone quiet?”
WHAT do you think!?
Onecoin SCAMMERS realize “The Streisand Effect” and DON’T DARE move litigation forward!
A.) it’s a publicity nightmare (as Onecoin is a KNOWN SCAM) which any Law Office understands could publicly humiliate them., based on operations alone.
B.) the stigma associated with “representing” KNOWN FRAUDSTERS probably doesn’t appeal to most Legal Firms – unless they are willing to stain their reputation.
C.) what would it accomplish?
Onecoin fraud and its SCAMMERS are WELL REPRESENTED throughout Social Media at large. What is the long-term advantage of a “Legal Firm” aligning PUBLICLY with the top promoters of am OBVIOUS SCAM, whom they would be trying to defend of obvious scam is obvious, and international government rulings and DECREES state as much?
well yes so that presumably explains that none of these alternative cases have been pursued(?) but this is not the case with you and at the moment is not for me. What differentiates us is that both our cases are being pushed forward by individuals.
Having said that I believe that OC will be financing these cases Corporately or through significant upline leaders. in the case of John Barrett here in Ireland he has said it was Pehr Karlsson and Peter Shaw). However, if they do so for the loss of the cases is actually another matter!!!!!,
I imagine Principe will have some kind of assurance contract or surety whilst Barrett will just be hung out to dry as he is only significant in his own narcissistic judgments.
Strange decisions but ultimately this will and has not stopped legal practices such as Carter Ruck (UK)and Gerald Kean in Ireland making money! It goes with their territories and there are enough dodgy plaintiffs to keep that particular segment of the market to be concerned about stained reputations It accomplishes revenue and that is exactly what the main upliners do as they have rubbish reputations but sip their pina coladas on their retirement homes -well at last until the next business opportunity comes along!
I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO YOU WINNING YOUR CASE AND METAPHORICALLY BREAKING PRINCIPE’S BACK IN COURT
So wait… Is Frank Ricketts now the CEO of OneLife or what does this “captain of OneLife Network” mean?
(Pablo Munoz was supposed to be the CEO of OneLife but he just magically disappeared and erased his LinkedIn history clean of all mentions of OneLife/OneCoin.)
They propably would make an official announcement if they have appointed a new CEO. Nobody wants the position this close to the end so they just invent a sham title to imply some position of leadership.
Kari is an “ambassador” which is another sham title, now they have captain. Next in line is DR. Zafar who is to be appointed as a “caliph of OneLife Network”.
Usually only board of directors have the authority to appoint CEO. It is my understanding that Mr. Greenwood doesn’t have any official position in the company. “Master distributor” title usually refers to a kind of special status reseller so I quess he is officially just a “super-IMA”.
Ricketts explicitly denied that he has accepted any formal management role.
IF ANYONE CAN DRAW OUT THE ORGANISATION CHART IT MAY BE VERY USEFUL AS OUR REFERENCE POINT
Corporate structure and heads of Departments .
Distribution and Affilaite Structure
When started ,when running hard (2016) and now that it is imploding
Ruja was Corporate head, Dilkinska was head of Legal /Compliance, Chris Smith was Head of Communications, Ludbrooke was Head of Learning.
Greenwood describes himself as Master Distributor 1 , but Juha and Karlsson were up there too.
Now let us start filling up from there—let us start with other known Corporate positions
Nothing like transparency
Ps I may be very wrong on titles and names so please add /amend as you wish
That was a really strange announcement to make at a OneCoin event.
It’s almost like Ricketts is addressing regulators and not the audience in front of him.
My take on OneCoin is Ruja and her mob run the show from behind the curtain. Greenwood and Parhiala have top affiliate positions and in exchange host events blahblahblah.
Kari Wahlroos is the same, but his position(s) are further down (probably right under Parhiala/Greenwood).
Ricketts is the same, the mob want him to implement in OneCoin what he did with OPN/SiteTalk. That is collect a ton of money on false promises (already done) and in return provide worthless points/shares/tokens etc.
Frank Ricketts is or was a “BLACK DIAMOND”? I found this:
Frank Ricketts is also the owner of onesitetalk.eu – with the same address as the IMS in Greven with a german telephon-number:
great -keep filling in the names including Corporate.
Peter Shaw WASUBNDER karlssson and thwy recruite.
great -keep filling in the names including Corporate
Peter Shaw was under Karlsson and they recruited John Barrett and Frankie Lawler to start Ireland
Peter Shaw was very instrumental in starting UK and one of his first recruits first recruits was Yasir Mirsam(?) He intoOduced him another 20 or so “LEADERS” at the London Conference’..
BTW–Did Kari and ShaW turn up in Bangkok?
Hasn’t stopped Carter-Fuck.
Future business from other scammers?
You appear to have missed the fact that the baddies hire lawyers too.
OneCoin is still going strong despite years of warnings from every regulator under the sun and negative coverage from a number of online sources and UK tabloids. None of their top henchmen have been arrested. This suggests to me that their lawyers are doing a pretty good job.
If I was a scammer looking for a lawyer to represent me in court, or to send out scary cease-and-desist letters, I’d be thinking to myself “Why don’t I use the guys that OneCoin used”?
The only way OneCoin’s lawyers would have their reputation stained is if the promoters were arrested, and sentenced to a longer prison sentence than they would have gotten anyway, due to poor advice from their lawyers. I rather doubt that’s going to happen.
I don’t know if this has any significance, but I just found that the Facebook account of “Kari Wahlroos – OneLife Ambassador” is not accessible anymore. This is the account he used for OneCoin/OneLife promotion.
His personal account NOLINK://www.facebook.com/kari.wahlroos is still available.
One Life Newsletter…
Prof. Scammer i’d say is back on the stage again.
Kari did not for sure. Shaw was on the event poster but I did not find proof of his presence in Bangkok.
Shaw WAS however present at THE ONE Event, one week earlier in Kuala Lumpur. He is the new Crown Diamond!
And a poster in Bangkok:
Aaaand Kari is out due to misbehaviour: imgur.com/a/n8IdE
^ Yes that annoucement is in OneLife BackOffice Information Center:
Complete text of the announcement:
Followed by two messages on his personal Facebook page:
– “After succesful meetings in Manila – next stop is Dublin!”
On to his next scam probably.
Somebody is executing a bugout plan.
SO A PIECE OF SCUM HAS LEFT THE SCAM.
they are now starting to destroy each other like cannibals -WHILST WAITING FOR NEW LEADERS TO BE RETRAINED -ISN’T THAT WHAT LUDBROOKE WAS HIRED TO DO BUT HE JUST TURNED OUR TO BE AN AMBASSADOR AND NO CORPORATE TRAINER FOR THE LAST 6 MONTHS OR SO.
I AM DELIGHTED AND LOOK FORWARD TO MORE RUBBISH LEAVING OR DEFECTING BY CHRISTMAS.
Ps I PRESUME THIS WILL DELAY THE OFC, IPO, ICO, PUBLIC OFFERING YET AGAIN.
PPS time to erase your FACEBOOK PHOTOS WITH WITH kari.
His KariWahlroosAmbassador FB page is back online.
Didn’t they abandon the office way back?
Arens and the gang looked like they were in the middle of packing up and shredding documents in that Zafar video from a few months ago.
Yes, but this seems to be further verification.
The german article from yesterday:
On December 8 NOLINK://pacermonitor.com/public/case/21058933/Chris_Principe_v_Timothy_Curry has been updated with two new documents:
– DECLARATION of Chris Principe in support of NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION for Preliminary Injunction Order Against Harassment
– Exhibit 1 – Twitter Examples
@TimTayshun, or anybody else, can you publish these?
RE: Chris Principe Lawsuit – my first known USA Onecoin/OLN victim, a struggling retiree on limited Social Security and low pension, who used us2moon.com to make her payment of >$13,000 USD last year to top Onecoin scammers has just contacted me, and she has evidence and proof of payment!!!!
As a reminder, Chris Principe is (or was?) Vice President “and PARTNER” for Trade Solutions Group – the Registered Domain owner for us2moon!
In addition to having watched numerous YouTube videos including those of Principe promoting Onecoin/OLN and others speaking about and featuring his infamous Ruja Ignatova cover REPRINT ISSUE, her upline consists of such notable names as Jason Richard Mangan and Kevin Foster.
So, that’s a nice early Christmas present for me 🙂
Merry Christmas, Chris! Shit’s starting to unwind!
As a reminder, check out the proud plaintiff who represents (or represented?) the payment channel which facilitated and lead this victim to invest nearly a year’s worth of her paltry state and repellent earnings into a Ponzi scheme which Principe still appears to be touring the world with: financialit.net/magazine/financial-it-springsummer-issue-2014
The Federal Court Hearing for Chris Principe’s silly little Motion for Injunction/ Restraining Order against me today went swimmingly 🙂
The only thing I’m bummed about is the likelihood that stolen Ponzi funds paid for an expensive and seemingly completely wasted day for the advancement of Principe’s frivolous Lawsuit.
I’ll refrain from any specific details for the time being, as Judge Staton will be making an official ruling/ statement regarding the Motion this coming week.
The Plaintiff’s Attorney threatens to appeal it, however the grounds for doing so appear to be quite …challenging (more Ponzi funds needed?)
An interesting question Judge Staton posed to the Plaintiff’s Attorney, which seemed to take him aback was, “Do the Defendant’s communications primarily concern the Plaintiff’s involvement in Onecoin?”
Principe’s Attorney seemed to stammer, responding something to the effect of …uhhh…mmm ..they largely do. (Or similar).
Judge Staton’s official statements concerning Principe’s injunction will be made public early next week. I’ll leave it at that for the moment.
Looking forward to the good news which we should ensure is distributed very widely-together with reminding investors how to taKe uplines for civil action and lodge complaints.
Good to hear this, Tim.
I checked the docket earlier today for an update. Guess the hearing hadn’t happened yet.
Hoping the best for you Tim. What a frustrating situation to be in. These scammers make me sick.
@Oz – the Hearing was yesterday at 2:30pm in Santa Ana in the 14th floor of the Ronald Reagen Federal Building.
Principe’s Attorneys FAILED to get the injunction they sought.
Judge Staton will post her ruling beginning of next week. The Official decision will be outlined therein, I imagine worth any other notes, commentary or citations.
Here’s what is posted. Since I don’t understand exactly how everything works, my interpretation of events is my interpretation only.
Therefore, many comments should be taken as someone observing and present, but some of the legalese and procedure is outside the scope of what I may or may not competently be able to interpret.
Sounds like the Judge gave the impression at the hearing that the injunction would be denied, but no official decision yet as per that docket.
Will check back late next week. Thanks mate.
Yep. That’s it exactly.