My Advertising Pays threaten to sue Tara Talks blog
My Advertising Pays is in trouble.
The scheme just ticked over the average two-year collapse mark, and recruitment of new investors has all but bottomed out:
For a Ponzi scheme that requires a constant stream of new investment to pay existing investors out with, this is a disaster.
In an attempt to distract their investors from the obvious, My Advertising Pays started crapping on about “My Advertising Pays v2.0” back in October last year.
That’s gone nowhere and so Deese and the gang need something new to distract their investors with. Cue threats of a lawsuit against Tara Talks.
For those unfamiliar with the blog, Tara Talks loosely follows the MLM underbelly.
They’ve been highly critical of My Advertising Pays, which the scheme is now evidently looking to blame for the decline in new investors.
Erroneously titled “My Advertising Pays sues Tara Talks”, a post on the My Advertising Pays corporate blog exhibits more sabre-rattling than substance.
For months TaraTalks has been on a campaign to destroy MAP’s reputation, undermine its integrity, and tarnish MAP founder, Michael Deese’s, standing as a business owner and veteran of the United States Air Force.
Despite numerous pleas by MAP, TaraTalks has failed to retract her false statements and has continued to defame MAP and Deese through her online blog.
MAP has decided that now is the time to fight back.
Citing unnamed “corporate counsel”, My Advertising Pays claim to be ‘in the process of initiating a federal law suit in the Northern District of Illinois alleging libel, interference with business relationship, and false light claims‘.
Filing a lawsuit is pretty straight forward though, there’s no real “process” about it. Either you’ve filed it or you haven’t.
My Advertising Pays continue on to present “the law” and “defamation”.
Due to the fact that TaraTalks is an online blog, the residency of the individual hiding behind the computer screen is unknown.
Therefore, MAP is bringing a federal law suit founded upon diversity jurisdiction.
Unless I’m missing something, My Advertising Pays citing diversity jurisdiction, when they acknowledge they don’t know where the author of Tara Talks resides, makes little sense.
In order for diversity jurisdiction to apply, complete diversity is required, where none of the plaintiffs can be from the same state as any of the defendants.
A corporation is treated as a citizen of the state in which it is incorporated and the state in which its principal place of business is located. (Wikipedia)
Furthermore,
though an alien (foreign national) who has been granted the status of permanent resident status used to be treated as a citizen of the state where the alien is domiciled, recent law has eliminated this language from the code and added language specifically denying diversity jurisdiction in a claim between a citizen of a state and an alien permanent resident.
Diversity is determined at the time that the action is filed, and on the basis of the residency of the parties at that time.
Put simply and from what I understand, My Advertising Pays can’t file a diversity claim and at the same time acknowledge they have no idea who or where the author of Tara Talks is domiciled.
Onto defamation…
As a general legal principal, defamation is the publication of false claims about another.
Under Illinois law, in order for a party to successfully bring a defamation claim they must prove the following:
a.) that the Defendant made a false statement about the Plaintiff;
b.) that the false statements were published (spoken or written) to a third party;
c.) when making the statements, the Defendant either knew the statements were false or had reckless disregard for the truth or falsity of the statements;
d.) and the publication damaged the plaintiff’s reputation.
Because TaraTalks has attacked MAP’s business and has spread false statements covering a wide array of topics from business to personal, MAP and Deese will bring both libel per se and libel per quod claims against the Defendant.
Again, note the use of future tense. This is sabre-rattling at its best.
With regards to defamation, My Advertising Pays is a Ponzi scheme.
This is easily proven by analysis of the source of funds My Advertising Pays use to pay off existing investors.
I know, you know and My Advertising Pays know it sourced from new investment.
This is key to identifying My Advertising Pays as a Ponzi scheme.
With that established, is calling My Advertising Pays out for being a Ponzi scheme defamation?
Ignoring diversity jurisdiction issues, discovery would force My Advertising Pays to provide accounting. Such to the effect that it would be easy to demonstrate the flow of money within the scheme.
Discovery would also reveal how much has been invested globally, how much has been paid out to Simon Stepsys and friends, and more importantly: The total Ponzi liability My Advertising Pays has racked up versus what’s actually in their bank accounts.
Proving securities fraud is relatively straight forward with ad-credit Ponzi schemes such as My Advertising Pays. There’s no retail, an advertised ROI is readily provable and all funds used to pay out are sourced from new and existing investors.
In addition to the two (2) libel claims, MAP and Deese will also bring a claim against TaraTalks for tortious interference with business relationships.
In essence, this claim will allege that TaraTalk’s false comments caused MAP affiliates to terminate their relationship with MAP or prevented potential MAP affiliates from becoming members.
To successfully plead tortious interference, a Plaintiff must prove: the existence of a valid business relationship or expectancy; knowledge of the relationship or expectancy on the part of the interferer; an intentional interference inducing or causing a breach or termination of the relationship or expectancy; and resultant damage to the party whose relationship or expectancy has been disrupted.
This one’s pretty straight-forward. A “valid business relationship” in a Ponzi scheme?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Lastly, because TaraTalks has spread vicious lies about founder and CEO, Michael Deese, he, in his personal capacity, will be brining a false light claim against TaraTalks.
TaraTalks has made numerous attacks at Michael Deese’s character and integrity alleging that he has corrupt morals and has defrauded MAP affiliates.
Anything else pertaining to Mike Deese and Advertising Pays is irrelevant, as confirmation in a US court that My Advertising Pays is a Ponzi scheme leaves him with far bigger problems than hurt feelings.
In an effort to proceed with honesty and transparency in mind, MAP is endeavoring to create a forum in which MAP affiliates can submit questions or express their concerns regarding the ongoing lawsuit.
MAP’s corporate attorneys will be responding to questions posted on the forum, as well as, providing brief updates of the proceedings as litigation progresses.
It is of the utmost importance for MAP affiliates to feel as if they have a voice in this matter and know that the attorneys handling this matter are working diligently to advocate on their behalf.
And as for My Advertising Pays’ unnamed corporate lawyer? Previous My Advertising Pays sabre-rattling has seen them engage the Illinois lawfirm Hart & David LLP.
Whether or not Hart & David LLP are still representing My Advertising Pays is unclear.
In any event, if this isn’t all just fictitious baloney, which I strongly suspect it is, do we really need a refresher course on what happens to attorneys who go into bat for Ponzi schemes?
Gerry Nehra and Kevin Grimes are shining examples if further research is required.
Underscoring My Advertising Pays’ sabre-rattling is of course the fact that they fled the US late last year.
Amid concerns regulators would shut them down for what is obviously an unregistered securities offering, My Advertising Pays abruptly cancelled their US business operations in October. The scheme subsequently went on to shaft their US investors with slashed ROI payouts.
My Advertising Pays ruse sees them feign legitimacy by being an advertising company. The US is the largest advertising market in the world, coming in at over double the ad spend of China.
So, is a global Ponzi scheme really going to sue a blogger using US litigation that makes little sense given the circumstances?
My money’s on “no”. Still, this is the MLM underbelly and stranger things have happened.
sure haha. believe it when i see it!
looks like tara talks is not in the least bothered about this ‘impending’ litigation:
soon we will hear about how ‘haters’ caused the demise of MAPS, and because mike deese ‘cares’ so much about his MAPS flock, he is launching a brand new opportunity!
“Threaten to sue” is also a sign of desperation on part of many schemes about to fold.
Zeek was going all Gestapo with “Zeek Squad” hunting down “violators” left and right, and even that Interim CEO was claiming they “dealt with” somebody at the credit union who leaked that Zeek is not credit-worthy or something like that, and of course, they tried to silence me and my Hubpages hub.
Medifast, founded in 1980, retaliated against several critics in 2010 with a lawsuit that included Tracy Coenen (forensic CPA / fraud investigator), Robert Fitzpatrick (pyramid scheme alert), William Lobdell (LA Times), and Barry Minkow (various).
Minkow himself was convicted of stock manipulating and fraud in 2011 but other three were solid reporters. Medifast sued all four, and when ruling came down in 2011 dismissing all but Minkow from the suit, Medifast appealed repeatedly, but when another ruling came down in favor of Tracy Coenen Medifast settled with the others.
It’s interesting to note that in 2012 Medifast subsidiary was slapped by FTC with false advertising.
In HYIP ponzi apologist terms,that would be “haterZ“
The last thing MAPS wants is to have their accounts checked!
Yeah Mike Deese and MAP are going to sue. Too funny. Let’s see:
1. Mike Deese lives in Mississippi,
2. There are two, count them 2, US Federal District Courts in Mississippi,
3. This alleged case is filing in Illinois,
4. Illinois is an anti-slap state,
5. MAP is registered in Anguilla,
6. Mike admits he knows not where TaraTalks lives,
7. The MAP blog website has two links: one for attorney and one for counsel, and both of them are blank.
So on what grounds does Mike Deese and his crack attorney make them think they can sue TaraTalks in Illinois, let alone anywhere in the U.S.?
This is nothing more than a distraction to get the MAPsters minds off all the problems MAP is having so complaints won’t go flying to the authorities.
Can’t you just see “Discovery!” Now that would be worth paying admission for if it happened.
a MAPS affiliate from canada published a video on feb 15th, 2016, to explain how MAPS shutting down its US business was a blessing in disguise.
the gist of video is that US banks randomly freeze the accounts of legitimate businesses without cause, and the govt agencies just want all the money in the bank accounts of the business. and you cant fight back because litigation is time consuming and expensive, so you have to just hand them the money and shut the business down.
so, MAPS just wanted to avoid being caught between the banks and the govt agencies and dumped its US business!
the truth is of course, and which this video refuses to address, is that MAPS is a ponzi scheme which was afraid of being shut down and litigated against in the US, the affects of which would reverberate across all other countries where MAPS does its ponzi business.
Looks like it’s soon going to be a great time to get into the MLM underbelly as two of the largest MLM schemes, OneCoin and MAPs – collapse. MMM Global is approaching it’s end as well, if not already collapsed.
Which means new MLM schemes will rise to replace the collapsed schemes, right?
Will somebody let me know when the next OneCoin or MAPs launches?
Look like the legal threat has worked. Taratalks blog has removed My Advertising Pays – scam
Perhaps it’s just temporary, or maybe she had to because she doesn’t actually own her blog.
She does have this post up though… taratalkstoday.blogspot.com/2016/02/my-advertising-pays-scam-newspapers.html
At least her My Advertising Pays LIES video is still up on YouTube.
Well, Jens Steyaert launched his StartRevShares Ponzi and when it failed miserably out of the gate, has promised a re-launch and is promoting his ADZcoin.
I doubt it will get as big as OneCoin, but you can bet this won’t be the only one trying to replace OneCoin. Of course the new coin will be legit and better than OneCoin…cough, cough.
Update from Tara: “the page is currently ‘down for maintenance’.”
And none of the other pages are!
Probably a Google DMCA takedown. She’s on Blogger, after all.
ADZcoin appears to be a real crypto-currency unlike OneCoin, because of this the potential is there for a ton of people to adopt it. OneCoin is/was more a company scrip than a cryto-currency because OneCoin decided the price and quantity of their OneCoins.
Are there any schemes launching as a result of MyAdvertisingPays faultering? If you know of any, can I have some names? Same for OneCoin “response” schemes?
Uh for what purpose? This is starting to drift offtopic…
Because we want to know what will be the next OneCoin and MyAdvertisingPays!
Right. Well that’s offtopic, so um that’s that then.
Ok Oz, I guess I will have to find what the next OneCoin and MyAdvertisingPays are somewhere else.
the ‘My Advertising Pays – scam’ page is now back up on Tara Talks.
chang may be right, that it was a google DMCA takedown. i guess MAPS has not sued tara talks in the ‘takedown’ period and so the pages are back up.
according to the FB page ‘my advertising pays – scam’, MAPS has now rolled out a mandatory compliance course for affiliates in the form of a book costing 50 euros.
MAPS is getting desperate for funds now, and the end is near. desperate MAPS recruitment events are being organised in europe, with simon stepsys encouraging people to buy more and more ‘packs’.
lord help the poor suckers who will feed their funds into MAP’S dying flames. they may well be the last bunch of idiots to lose their money to MAPS.
MAPS has rolled out its version 2, with reduced earning possibility and continuing complaints from participants that their accounts are blocked and they cant log in.
the alexa ratings of MAPs shows an uptick since the launch of V2, but i don’t see it sustaining for long, as word has gotten around about MAPs being a pyramid/ponzi scheme.
alexa.com/siteinfo/myadvertisingpays.com
an event scheduled for june 4th in london has been shifted to an unknown secret venue, as the the initial event organisers cancelled the MAPs booking upon doing some due diligence on the scheme.
there are reports that MAPs organisers in germany are also having problems hosting events, as they are being kicked out of venues and have to either cancel or shift their event locations.