MyAdvertisingPays Review: $49.99 Ponzi investment scheme
MyAdvertisingPays (commonly abbreviated as “MAP”), launched in late 2013. The company was originally advertised as being based out of the US, but within a month of launch appears to have “relocated” to Anguilla.
A Google search on the provided corporate address reveals multiple businesses using the same address. This is typical of virtual office space.
As such, MyAvertisingPays’ being located in Anguilla appears to be in name only, indicating a lack of belief in the company’s business model will stand up to the regulatory scrutiny in the US.
Named as CEO and Founder of MyAdvertisingPays is Mike Deese (he also goes by “Michael Deese”). Deese is based out of the US state of Mississippi (where MyAdvertisingPays is actually run out of), and circa early 2013 was an affiliate of Rocket Cash Cycler:
Rocket Cash Cycler was a matrix-based pyramid scheme that charged participants $315 to join, and then paid them $5000 when enough new recruits had joined.
In the article “Get to know Mike”, posted on a marketing blog set up to promote Deese and MyAdvertisingPays, Deese hints that he’s been repeatedly burned by opportunities that have collapsed:
I would work so hard to create a reliable income and help others do the same, only to have the business shut down and take all of our collective hard work with it.
Deese doesn’t explicitly mention which businesses he was an affiliate of. In another blog post, titled “Why MyAdvertisingPays will Succeed Where Many Others Have Failed”, Deese demonstrates some knowledge of the Ponzi and pyramid scheme underbelly of the MLM industry, specifically referencing Zeek Rewards, Profitable Sunrise and Fortune High-Tech Marketing.
Whether or not Deese was an affiliate in any of those programs however, is unclear.
I was unable to find any mention of Deese running any other MLM companies, indicating that MyAdvertisingPays is his first attempt at running a company.
Read on for a full review of the MyAdvertisingPays MLM business opportunity.
The MyAdvertisingPays Product Line
MyAdvertisingPays has no retailable products or services. The company does market three “solutions” on its website, however visitors must sign up as an affiliate before they can purchase anything.
Once an affiliate has signed up, they are then able to purchase advertising credits, which can be used to display advertising on the MyAdvertisingPays website. Some of these ads are also shown to MyAdvertisingPays affiliates, who are required to view them to qualify for a daily ROI.
The MyAdvertisingPays Compensation Plan
The MyAdvertisingPays compensation plan revolves around affiliates signing up and then investing in $49.99 “credit packs”.
Each credit pack is invested in on the promise of an advertised $60 ROI. Taken from MyAdvertisingPays’ FAQ:
The cost for one Credit Pack is $49.99. This product also has a profit-sharing element attached to it. Each Credit Pack you purchase will return you $60 over time.
To qualify for their daily ROI, MyAdvertisingPays affiliates ‘must click on 10 ads daily‘.
MyAdvertisingPays don’t guarantee a minimum daily ROI, but do specify that the amount they can pay out is determined by how much new affiliate money flows into the business:
Payouts depend on the volume of sales. At times, volume will be higher than others, so ones earnings will vary accordingly.
“Sales” of course being code for affiliate investment in credit packs.
Referral commissions are offered on credit pack investments made by recruited affiliates, paying out a 10% commission.
This is apparently extendable to 18%, however MyAdvertisingPays do not provide specific details on their website. They do however indicate that the increase is tied into the number of new investors an affiliate brings into the scheme:
All you have to do is introduce others to M.A.P.
I’ve also seen some social media talk about referral commissions being tied into membership levels:
Anyone anywhere can achieve the 10% referral commission level without paying for any Membership Levels!
This indicates the possibility of referral commissions being determined by how much a MyAdvertisingPays affiliate pays in membership fees.
Joining MyAdvertisingPays
Affiliate membership to MyAdvertisingPays is $24.99 annually.
Free membership is available, however free affiliates can only earn referral commissions (by getting other to invest).
Conclusion
Using the familiar advertising credit + Ponzi scheme business model, MyAdvertisingPays simple shuffle new affiliate money around to pay off existing investors.
The screenshot below, taken from an advertising video that plays on the MyAdvertisingPays website, spells out the Ponzi nature of the business even further:
Affiliates buy in at $49.99 a pop, are given some busybody work to do (click ads), in return for a 120% ROI ($60).
In an effort to differentiate itself from your standard Ponzi scheme, MyAdvertisingPays has come up with some baloney about a “reserve fund”:
Does M.A.P. have a reserve fund?
Yes! Aside from the initial reserve fund provided by the Company, a portion of all incoming funds are re-directed to a reserve fund ensuring level payouts continue over the long-term.
The truth of the matter is that all Ponzi schemes launch with a reserve fund, otherwise they wouldn’t be able to initially pay out the >100% ROIs all Ponzi schemes offer.
The problem is what happens when that reserve fund runs out? No matter how much money a Ponzi scheme starts with, the “paying out more money than is initially invested” business model guarantees all Ponzi schemes will run out of money sooner or later (once new investment dries up).
What happens then?
Kaboom!
Update 7th April 2016 – In an effort to reduce ROI liability, My Advertising Pays has introduced monthly fees for affiliates.
- Entry – no cost and capped at 14 active investments
- Casual – €10.99 EUR a month in fees and capped at 75 active investments
- Professional – €26.99 EUR a month in fees and capped at 250 active investments
- Free Time – €55.99 EUR a month in fees and capped at 500 active investments
- New Lifestyle – €99.99 EUR a month in fees and capped at 1000 active investments
My Advertising Pay’s new affiliate fees represent ROI clawbacks of almost €1200 EUR annually.
- Casual – €131.88 EUR paid back
- Professional – €323.88 EUR paid back
- Free Time – €671.88 EUR paid back
- New Lifestyle – €1199.88 EUR paid back
Other than My Advertising Pays affiliates earning less money, there doesn’t appear to be any other changes made to the company’s compensation plan.
Mike Deese and Simon Stepsys are at the top of this ponzi and are raking in the money through referee’s My Advertising Pays (MAPS) is a scam through and through.
The numbers do not add up in regards to ad packs and how money is generated. And if any money is generated, a large sum goes to Stepsys and Deese a well as large processing fees.
Those in the ponzi scheme are completely brainwashed, due to greed and are in complete denial that this is a ponzi. What is even more scary many who have joined MAPS are former convicted internet scammers like “Stepsys” who made a lot of money through the fradualnt company called “Banners Brokers”
People stay AWAY from My Advertising Pays, you will lose money.
^^ from wikipedia.
Since My Advertising Pays pays its affiliates from the interest invested by the affiliate instead of coming from new members, by definition MAPs is NOT a ponzi scheme. Dave (Ozedit: spam removed)
Interest? Yeah… rightio.
MAP takes new affiliate investment and uses it to pay off existing affiliate investors. The same as every other ad-credit based Ponzi scheme out there.
Interest… lol.
spot on Oz…Dave whoever you are….you need to ask yourself….do you feel safe in this business because you dont have a real clue how map works…
If people did not join map for a whole day, do you think you would get any profit share….I dont think so which means no new money to pay members so its a ponzi simple as
Dave is right, this is not a Ponzi scheme. It is an illegal pyramid.
Until the day maps closes no one will know if it is a ponzi scheme or not.
Business models determine whether or not an MLM opportunity is a Ponzi scheme, not whether they are shut down or not.
MyAdvertisingPays, by virtue of its business model (compensation plan), fits the definition of a Ponzi scheme.
Anyone claiming otherwise is in denial and most likely hoping to recoup their initial investment and profit before the scheme collapses.
Case in point…
What money do you get paid with if you were in a job for a retail shop… obviously you get paid from new customers coming into the shop to buy your stuff….
obviously this is what people classify a ponzi scheme, getting money from new people coming into the business… apply this to the shop example and you will see that it’s the same model
why are people so ignorant….
Uh, retail “shop” customers aren’t investors looking for a ROI.
Fail.
Seeing as you appear to be a pretty good example, you tell us.
Oz thank you for explaining why MAP is a scam. Many people know it’s an illegal ponzi (cough – Stepsys and Deese) but don’t care that they defrauding people .
No worries the authorities will catch up with them just like they are doing with Stepsys, who has a court case pending for defrauding people in the now defunct Banners Brokers.
People DO NOT INVEST IN MY ADVERTISING PAYS!
You may need to review… MAP has grown, and is compliant, it is no ponzi scheme,, it pays not enough lol.. and it does not advocate referring, the referral program is ACTUALLY OPTIONAL!
Sales as you put it are not implied affiliate investment,only as you put it … and you know why people buy into this ??? His advertising works..;..
You would not have a referral comission unless referred them to this… you do not get as in some ponzi scemes a payout for signing up… it is on their random purchase of advertising in whatever form they choose AND the ten percent will hardly break the bank
I do not see that ? but please inform us.. I have sent this to Mike Deese the Admin..
For me I am building a business her not MAP But through the advertising that MAP delivers…it is like no other..
I understand why you bring scammers down.. but Mike Deese I believe has opened a great site, and has integrity, has done interviews with a few people.. perhaps you should request one to see where he is at with his program
More investors ! not a Ponzi scheme.
Affiliate money goes in, affiliate money is paid out to earlier investors. Of course it’s a Ponzi scheme.
Optional recruitment of new investors != not a Ponzi scheme.
So? Admin still takes new affiliate money and uses it to pay off existing investors. That’s what makes it a Ponzi scheme.
Horseshit. You’re there for the Ponzi ROIs.
Advertising other Ponzi schemes to fellow MAP Ponzi investors != legitimate advertising.
is running a stock-standard advertising credit Ponzi scheme. Your beliefs are neither here nor there.
And to Lorraine one thing about online posts and these sites is that when one person posts everyone believes it and runs with it….
Mike Deese is a decent human being..
I was always aware of Stepys but I have seen his training and the way he has helped so many achieve… he is not a scammer.. just duped by online programs like so many others but he was the better marketer…. the bigger name! and the well known figure for the program… who to target and to align with the actual scammer?
I could respond and say how some of the earners have no recruits at all? how do they earn …
MAP has taken some large outside advertising partnerships.. oh and there are more to come…. that is why I say you need to interview him??? and with these the revenue has increased… there is acutally no need to recruit at all if you dont want to….
We just enjoy the services he provides … it is damn good.
New affiliate investor money is used to pay off existing investors. Ponzi 101.
No they haven’t. Ponzi 102.
No there aren’t. Ponzi 103.
Why? Deese telling us he uses existing investor funds to pay of existing investor funds doesn’t make the Ponzi scheme any realer. It’s defined by the business model.
Which is taking new affiliate funds and using it to pay off existing investors.
Here endeth the lessons.
oh yes there are would you like to know more from Mike?
Interview him…how can you say no he hasnt? I can see the outside resources happening?
Business model revenue in: defined by advertising purchases members are paid percentage daily as rebates
All new affiliate funds of course are added to the mix.. but not as in the way you are twisting it…….
it is revenue in …. advertising purchases… totally optional and members are paid a very small percentage daily as compared to other programs which of course go under very quickly….
I finish here but I see your job is not done ..
I investigate scams too for a living.. you will not know of me because I have to keep a closed profile.. but I know all about ponzis etc.. and every site that is online…. so go with that and look some further
I know you are stubborn by nature
I missed this part
They are paid a rebate back on their advertising , think of how much google fb, etc are earning from you, billions!
this is the same but instead you will receive a rebate back for using this service it is not outlandish it is a reasonable rebate.
Yo, you want to assert your bullshit claims about advertising, said bullshit needs to be backed up.
It’s alright chief. You and I both know how Ponzi schemes work.
Yep. Affiliate money invested and used to pay off earlier investors. Classic Ponzi.
Call it a mix, call it whatever you want. It’s a pool of new affiliate funds used to pay off existing investors.
How much of a Ponzi ROI is paid out daily is irrelevant.
Well, chalk this up as a colossal failure then. Advertising credit based Ponzi schemes are a dime-a-dozen.
Horseshit. Google and Facebook have legitimate advertisers.
Not Ponzi pimp investors looking to rip off those who invest after them.
I liked this phrase so much I’ve quoted it twice.
Neck-deep in Ponzi rhetoric and trying to pass himself off as some sort of scam investigator. Good grief.
The Advertising rebates are good but you know what… my primary business has grown because of my advertising with MAP.. That is what you cannot get your head around!
No, and I don’t care about your “what” either.
You’re in a Ponzi scheme, nobody cares about your excuses.
oh yes there are would you like to know more from Mike?
Interview him…
Why this needs to come from the top right? you want it from the top nothing else?
Hmmmm so you wont even try?
Hmm you would be surprised.. at who you are talking to but thank you for your time will pass comments on to Mike..
Perhaps others will look to do their own due diligence than just one source
Your comments give you no credibilty because you do not want to investigate further or have a future interview with the admin of MAP, that to me says you just take online info and make assumptions that can sometimes be dangerous.
What’s your primary business ??
Recruiting people into ponzis, pyramids and get-rich-quick schemes ???
If I want to buy your product, where would I find this “advertising” ?
I am promoting a health product and the company has won many awards , I sell on ebay and it is a very successful product line . I also promote marketing sites… this advertising would depend on the advertising I chose at the time to promote …. they have a few options….
Recruiting people into ponzis….etc… what is your meaning??
You’re the one spouting BS. You back it up. Stop hiding behind Deese’s skirt.
To prove your bullshit for you? Like I don’t have better things to do.
I couldn’t care less. A Ponzi pimp is a Ponzi pimp is a Ponzi pimp.
By all means. But anyone who goes over MAP’s compensation plan and thinks using new affiliate funds to pay off existing investors is legit, is delusional.
What’s there to “investigate”?
MAP takes new affiliate funds and uses it to pay off existing investors. Case closed, it’s a Ponzi scheme.
If Mike Deese is misrepresenting his Ponzi scheme on the MAP website then we have even bigger problems.
Gotta love the elusiveness.
Maybe you have to interview Mike Deese to find out what his pimps are pushing.
SORRY Your comment here …please consult the program , admin before presuming anything else?
All I see is that you attack any one who opposes your postings you are not open to reason and dont see why? No not to prove my Bs as you put it but to affirm what you first posted…
many things change once a site goes online and I dont hide under anyones skirts… dont try and get out of that one by throwing that at me
FOR ME and perhaps your readers… you have lots to investigate… you post when a site is in beta? then dont follow up…
that for me I would be looking for.. but I have had enough of this… if you need a contact with Mike you know where to find me
AND
I DONT HIDE UNDER ANYONES SKIRTS!
Exhibit A: MAP compensation plan
As was written in the review, “Sales” of course being code for affiliate investment in credit packs.
You can’t even see the giant Ponzi infront of your eyes (or in the interest of recouping your investment, choose not no).
Selective vision?
MAP’s compensation plan is done and dusted. It’s a cookie-cutter ad-credit Ponzi scheme.
Under his skirt?
OOOOOOOOH,
there’s a line in there, but I’m gonna leave it right alone.
All I see is
No I am not greedy and I like his advertising … job done!
Which one did you look at? we have no guidlines here ?
No not a cookie cutter ..shows how little you know has been put into this business…..
This comment just shows your unprofessional manner…no comment necessary…
And what is that Roundman since you now published this?
Never mind,
it’s an anatomical impossibility anyway
You and I both know you wouldn’t be investing with MAP if it wasn’t promising you Ponzi ROIs.
The comp plan that was available at the time of publication. If it’s no longer available, that’s understandable. Ponzi admins often engage in cover-ups after a BehindMLM review is published.
That of course does not change the business model itself, which remains the same. That in this case being an obvious Ponzi investment scheme.
Blahblahblah, advertising credits used to front an obvious Ponzi scheme. Seen it what must be hundreds of times before.
Look, I get this is your first rodeo… but other than playing the Ponzi pimp persona to a ‘t’ all you’re really doing at this point is embarrassing yourself.
Nobody outside of the Ponzi industry takes crappy advertising credit schemes like this seriously.
(Ozedit: Stay on topic. Protip: Complaining about a conspiracy theory against you and spitting the dummy in your next comment will be marked as spam)
Sorry HONEY , I look at you at think why dont you take your job more seriously?
If people are being informed by your posts they should have up to date information right? Follow ups? Etc?
Well actually they do ..47,000 members take it seriously…
I’m only going to say this one more time:
Is Deese misrepresenting his Ponzi scheme on the MAP website?
This review is based on the publicly available business model: use new affiliate funds to pay off existing investors.
Like I said, nobody outside of the Ponzi industry takes crappy advertising credit schemes like this seriously.
Ok AND I am saying I dug deeper… it is all there….
Just think what you are saying about it being a ponzi… find out where the revenue is coming from .. and then we are clear
You dug deeper than the publicly available business model presented on the MAP website?
Riiiight.
It is all there chief, in its Ponzi glory entirety. MAP takes new affiliate money and uses it to pay off existing investors.
Done and done. According to the MAP business model and compensation plan, it’s coming from new affiliate investors. The same as any other Ponzi scheme.
You dug deeper than the publicly available business model presented on the MAP website?
And it is not a cookie cutter site ,it is a uniquely programmed site
I told you what I do…. and I look deeper , much more I find out more about the background,people and finances of these ..but the unique ones I look at too as there is a history there…I spend a lot of time to get what I want to find out,
And yes I always go deeper than the website itself ,that gives very little at most.
It’s a cookie-cutter business model that hundreds of advertising-credit Ponzi schemes have used before it.
As for the website itself, the source-code mentions “K2 Plugins”, which is used for Joomla websites. Joomla is a CMS.
The following text appears on the signup page:
“Uniquely programmed” my arse. It’s a copy-paste job.
To establish whether or not a business is a Ponzi scheme one need only look at the business model. Whether or not the owners make you feel warm and fuzzy inside is neither here nor there.
Do You know any thing about script …?
sorry your following does not hold up .. I am very familiar with Joomla script and the plugins.. and of course they will be accredited to certain people
cannot comment here on a off the cuff script annotation.
I mean which page, where did you take this from ..screen shot etc?
I will ask my programmer if need be but really you are wasting time
I know that publicly available scripts from ten years ago aren’t deployed on “uniquely coded” websites.
You’re full of shit.
Your comment give you no credibility because you did not refute ANY of the facts presented as is. You simply imply there’s more to the story without explaining what. In other words, you’re just full of innuendos.
wow let the peole in maps speak for themselves if they are been reaped of or not. why do people envy people?
at the end of the day you got something to sell yourself cause u will have to prove which business is perfect as your are perfect you havnt sin before so you can throw the stone at the man.
Why? This is a review of the MAPS business model. What investors have to say is neither here nor there.
Ponzi schemes “reap” everyone except early investors. It’s not a question of “if”.
Dunno, don’t care.
Nope.
No I won’t.
No but I can throw stones at blatant Ponzi schemes. Seen plenty of those.
Thankyou, come again.
I told a friend of mine, and member of MAP, about this review of MAP and that he should go look at it. He did. Then, he made this video to refute the information posted here and then uploaded to YouTube (Ozedit: video link removed), but I don’t see a comment from him.
Would you take the time and respond to this video?
@Stan
From the video:
That’s the opening, which sounds like just another Ponzi scammer whinging. To top it off about halfway he launched into the typical bait and switch and starts spamming.
This article is based on the MAP compensation plan and business model, you can’t get any closer to the source than that. All quotes are cited, either from the MAP website itself or linked third-parties.
Anytime your friend says “I don’t know where he got that from”, that’s an admission he cannot explain the blatant Ponzi aspects of the business. It’s a strawman attempt to question the source of the article rather than to address the material itself.
Basically your “friend” really wants to push the MAP spam he’s attached to the second half of the video, using the bait and switch of pretending to address the BehindMLM review.
Feel free to address any of the concerns raised in the article, but please don’t link to poorly presented Ponzi investor videos.
We’ve heard all the excuses, nothing justifies a blatant Ponzi scheme. Your friend is just clutching at straws to try and get you on board.
“But you’re just buying advertising” has already failed in court (see AdSurfDaily).
MAPS take new affiliate funds and use it to pay off existing investors. The only “advertisers” are affiliates, internal funds shuffle up to earlier investors = Ponzi scheme.
And how *would* they know if they’ve been scammed of not? What if they’ve been scammed but they won’t admit to themselves?
Do you ask a drug addict what’s his opinion of his dealer? (answer: depends on whether the addict needs a hit or not)
Thus, your answer really makes no sense, and thus, you can’t have came up with it on your own, as you’re clearly not an idiot. You must have LEARNED IT from an idiot.
When is Simon Stepsys getting arrested
I remember when he was selling his Banners Broker panels to local people for cash when he couldn’t withdraw money from BB.
I don’t know who is worse… him or Faith Sloan
Sonny Clarkson there is enough evidence out there to due diligence on Simon Stepsys, he is a convicted farudster, The UK office of fair trading have twice convicted him for selling a programme to unemployed people which didn’t exist.
He is currently being sued for fraud for selling illgal panels in the Banners Broker Ponzi scheme/ Sonny, you are brainwashed and you will end up worse off if you continue to invest in this company .
I just want to say time will tell, we will fix it on time!
Fix what exactly? The business model is a Ponzi scheme.
From MAPS FAQ Page ….
I just purchased one or more Credit Packs and I am seeing little to no profit-share earnings in my account!
The numbers don’t add up.
1 CP costs 49.99 (plus payment processor fee, 5.51 for me), so that is actually 55.50 for my CP.
For my “free” 30 days I averaged 26c/day for my first 18 days, then just .0225 cents/day for the next 12 days.
For 7 of my 30 days I earned 0.00 (nothing)
So, at the end of 30 days I have Lifetime Profit Share Earnings of $4.95. Now to earn anything more on my Credit Pack I have to purchase a basic membership for 24.99 for 12 months.
OK. Lets see –
Credit Pack 55.50 (all in)
Basic membership 24.99
Total Cost 80.49
Now divide $60.00 by .26 per day (assumes my profit share will return to the average of my first 18 days – but no guarantee!)and it will take 230-231 days just to earn $60 (Max payout per Click Pack), and I am still out 20.49.
In actual fact I only net about $4.50 on my Credit pack, but that does not account for processing fees to get payment, which if the same as the fees to purchase would mean I lose $1 on the Credit Pack plus $24.99 on my membership cost.
At the end of 231 days I need to shell out another 55.50 for another Credit pack to keep earning, then of course at the end of 365 days I have to renew my basic membership for another 24.99.
The only way to (maybe) make money with this program is to sucker in all your friends and family and earn referral commission. How much are you prepared to spend getting referrals?
The numbers just do not add up!
Nobody has invested after you yet. They don’t have any money to pay you with until that happens.
What a excellent open forum of discussion this has been in relation to MAPs…
Oz,as always Mate you have NAILED yet another PONZI!!
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK WITH EXPOSING THESE SCOUNDREL’S AND THERE PONZI SCHEME COMPENSATION PLANS….
ok well after reading this hole thing i laugh i dont care what you call it i have made way more money than what i spent on it ( for the packs) and i have no one under me.
no need so i make a happy profit without having to invite or get others to sign up and for not making anything on your pack for the month.
well if you read there updates the server was basically down due to new server being built and since the site has gone back up i have had constant profit.
Make sure you put some of it towards your education.
Perhaps in time you’ll learn there’s more to life than your own hip pocket and ripping off those who join something after you.
MAP is a Ponzi scheme through and through! It relies on new money coming in to pay members the profit share. Where else does the profit share come from?
Who in their right mind pays for banners when you get them for free when your a member? the only money comes from re-purchasing (compounding is frowned upon even though they put a quote from Einstein in their sleezy presentations) and membership fees.
Apparently Mike Deese has a corporate sponsor that brings in a significant amount but doesn’t say who it is? Massive red flag!!!
1)if a company pumped a ton of money in your company then surely they will want big advertising space right?
2)No company exists in the first place! That is probably the reason he doesn’t say.
Mike himself is probably a fall guy for whoever really set up MAP. My suspicions are around Mark Ghobril and think he is heavily involved somewhere.
Tony Booth who is an executive lies about his past. Says that for 25 years he has been successful in bricks and mortar. A quick 30 minutes on google tells a very different story.
Truth is these scammers can’t hide from their pasts and soon the truth about MAP will be exposed and shut down!
I am a member of MAPS and I invested $800 into it since January 2014 and have only one refferral under me which I have received $800 in commissions from. So let me do some sums below…
I have withdrawn $2000 from MAPS and so my profit is around $1200.
It is a scam, a Ponzi scheme, a pyrimed scheme and on and on people rant. I see and read this all the time in forum and on review websites from people coming up with assumptions about maps without joining first to see and experience if it really does make money or not. My experience is it is a very simple way to make money from clicking just 10 ads a day.
My experience from joining is I cannot fault the program or the company beaucse they are delivering on their promise by paying me every 20 minutes.
Will it last in the long run? I do not know, but all I know is I am in profit and making money while the sunshines.
Referring to C. Terry’s post that the sums do not add up…. They do add up if you buy 10 or more credit packs because you will be in profit quicker.
It would work with one credit pack as well but it would take a long time to recoup your money back and move into profit, but that would only happen if you kept buying more credit packs from the profit because on one pack you would only make a $60 return.
Just look at the bigger picture, for example in a bank the interest on $50 is not as much as it would be on $500.
S’long as your making money, f’em right?
You don’t need to join a Ponzi scheme to identify one. MAPS is a Ponzi scheme based on its business model (compensation plan), whether people join it and where “it makes money” is neither here nor there.
All Ponzi schemes pay out until new investor funds dry up, then they go kaboom.
I was always aware Oz there was a chance it might fail one day if people stopped putting money in but I still took a chance on it and so far it has worked out as quite a good little investment, but like I say I have no idea how long it will last and if it does fail one day then I would still have made money.
So really I am not over worried about it going, but would rather it stayed and carried on making me money of course.
Oh, that’s good then,
as long as YOU’RE not worried, why would anyone else be concerned about those poor suckers who joined after you and whose hard earned is keeping you in profit.
HYIP ponzi players are such caring and sharing folk, aren’t they ??
Oh, and, before you drag out your well worn copy of the Ponzi Players Book of Rationalization and Justifications
No, every member of MAPS doesn’t know it’s a gamble / should know better / shouldn’t have invested more than they can afford to lose / shouldn’t trust people
You and others like you are ripping people off – end of
Littleroundman I am not trying to rip anyone off and would rather MAPS never went under and the way it is currently going I cannot see this happening anytime soon, with MAPS going from strength to strength with over 80,000 members (all the ones who are buying credit packs are all making money).
My credit packs are making me more money at a faster rate now than they did when I first joined in January 2014.
On the 13th December 2013 MAPS was launched and on the 13th December 2014 it was a year old and it would not surprise me if it was still here on the 13th December 2015.
I am still positive about MAPS and making money every 20 minutes while others stand back with caution. “The Proof is in the pudding with some people in MAPS making $100’s per day”.
The problem Is people are very quick to put MAPS down as some kind of scam without hard proof or evidence. I am living proof that MAPS makes money along with 1000”s of others members.
making money in a ponzi!! unheard of! MAPS must be the uniquest idea to hit planet earth since the last meteor!
silkywizard, instead of being silly, read the review of MAPS above, and convince everybody that it is not a ponzi. don’t brag about the money you make, that is MORE proof of a ‘fraud’ than anything else.
Well then, you’re doing a bloody good job without even trying.
If we forget the rest of the nonsensical ponzi players rationalizing and justifying you’re trying to introduce into the situation, Oz explained the truth of the matter clearly in the first post of this thread:
Today, tomorrow, this week, next month ??? Who knows. But, rest assured, it WILL happen
In the meantime, you ARE stealing from the pockets of those who joined after you.
Own it.
I don’t think we’re talking about the same thing here?
MONEY is normally something we can use directly to buy goods or services in a normal market (buy groceries, pay bills, etc.). If stored electronically, it will be stored in a bank account.
You’re talking about something that is electronically “paid out” and stored in a back office (not a bank account), something that cannot be used directly to purchase goods or services in a normal market, it can only be used to buy “Credit Packs”?
Forget withdrawals for a while. Withdrawals will of course require real money. But the “money” you were talking about there seemed to be more similar to monopoly money than to real money?
The operative word is “some”. And if you leave your money in, that may not be you.
Ugh, another “numbers on the screen = money” moron.
Exhibit A: Maps business model. They take new affiliate investment and use it to pay off existing investors.
It’s a Ponzi scheme.
Hi All,
M_Norway…. It is not monopoly money or electronic money, I am talking about REAL money because so far I have withdrawn money directly into my bank account which is more than I have put in. Also there is a product and that is called advertising, I will explain more about that below.
I honestly do not see myself as stealing from others, I see it as an investment where I am making money from the profit earned by the operator/MAPS which is shared out to the members who have bought advertising credit packs.
All MAPS profits come from the advertising they sell. All the credit packs bought give you advertising space and you can also pay extra money if you wish, for example banner adverting which goes towards the profit which is also shared out among it’s members.
I am very aware and not blinded to the fact if the members of MAPS stop buying advertising space it will go bust. This is no different to any other company who sell advertising space.
MAPS has 80,000+ members and growing, so I can not see the company closing down anytime soon, which is good news as it is a great adverting platform.
Finally I would request you control your anger towards me and refrain from call me names like moron and making accusation that I am being silly just because I disagree with you about MAPS being a Ponzi company.
You have withdrawn money DIRECTLY from the back office into you own bank account?
You didn’t need to send a “withdrawal request” to MAP first, and then have to wait some time before the money was transferred to an e-wallet / sent to your bank account?
If you can withdraw money DIRECTLY (without any type of “withdrawal request”), then you can also use your back office to pay your ordinary bills, e.g. utility bills.
If you cannot pay anything DIRECTLY (anything outside the system itself), then you’re not talking about real money. Real money can be used DIRECTLY to pay bills, transfer to other bank accounts, be withdrawn as cash from an ATM. You won’t need to send “withdrawal requests” to a third party first.
Monopoly money can be used inside the game of monopoly to pay for different “valuables”. They will be worthless outside that game, i.e. when the game ends.
Neither the grocery store nor the bank will accept that type of “money”. But PEOPLE may accept it as “real money” if they don’t know the exact difference. You can easily trick people to believe it’s real money, e.g. by replacing it with real money when people request withdrawals.
If all the profit comes from advertising, why do they need money from you and other investors?
To make it simpler …
* MAP isn’t a bank
* Your back office isn’t a bank account
If you receive something to your back office as a “payout”, you can be pretty sure it isn’t real money. It can be a PROMISE to pay you an amount of money if you send a “withdrawal request”.
Real money won’t need any “withdrawal requests” before it can be used to pay for something. You can always use it DIRECTLY to pay for goods or to pay bills.
Monopoly money won’t need “withdrawal requests” either, you can use it DIRECTLY inside a game, but only inside the game. If payouts CAN be used directly inside a system but CANNOT be used directly outside the system, you can be pretty sure it’s a type of monopoly money.
Ok maybe the terminally was wrong.
The money is requested from MAPS to be withdrawn. I have two choices to send it to, Solid Trust Pay or VX Gateway.
When the money arrives at Solid Trust Pay I can then withdrawal the money to my bank account.
With VX Gatewway once the money arrives I can request the money to go into my paypal account or to my bank account.
So you are right, MAPS is not a bank and yes the money is not mine until it is in my bank account.
The best way to look at it is with company shares where they have a value but it is not real until they are sold and the money is in your bank account.
By the way once I request the money from MAPS it can go throught straight away and sometimes it might take a few hours. So the pay out is relatively fast.
Really? Where? If this is true (which it’s not) why aren’t walmart, lowes, home depot, sears, etc. advertising there and reaping the money also? ASD and Banners broker all made the same claims and they are lies.
Where can we, the general public, see these ads on the web (without joining this scam)?
@Silky
What you “see” is irrelevant, because stealing from those who join after you is exactly what you are doing.
Nah, comes from affiliate investment. You invested and then you steal from those who invest after you.
Whatever is bundled with said investment (advertising credits in this case) is irrelevant.
Purchases don’t deliver ROIs, investments do.
“stop buying advertising” = “stop investing”.
I suppose at least you can see it’s a Ponzi scheme, albeit in a pseudo-compliance round-a-bout way.
Yeah, but all Ponzi schemes collapse. Their ROI liabilities aren’t getting any smaller.
Whether they offer a product or not is irrelevant. All modern Ponzi schemes bundle some sort of product or service with their investment.
The issue here is the offering of unregistered securities, which MAPS very much are guilty of.
Then the “money” in your back office is a type of monopoly money. You can reinvest it DIRECTLY and buy more worthless “Credit Packs”. That will prevent you from withdrawing too much real money too early, and prevent MAP from running out of money too early.
It will also give the investors the FEELING of earning money, the FEELING of being paid each day or week. It will keep many of the investors happy for a long time, without costing anything substantial.
When stored in e-wallets, the money still can’t be used DIRECTLY to pay bills. It can be used to load a debit card, or it can be requested transferred to other payment processors, or it can be requested transferred to a bank account, or it can be requested sent as a check.
So third party e-wallets do indirectly hold money. The money isn’t in your possession yet, but you can request to get it paid to where you want without asking MAP first. It means the third party e-wallets are different from your back office, but they’re not bank accounts.
But how do they make a profit when people are using monopoly money to pay for “Credit Packs”? That can’t be very profitable for a business? 🙂
It will make the monopoly money LOOK more like real money and FEEL more like real money. It will also prevent people from withdrawing too much real money too early. But it can’t be very profitable for the business?
I don’t use e-wallets, so I don’t know what’s normal time either. Some programs can have 2 or 3 weeks delay, some can have weekly withdrawals, some can have hourly withdrawals, etc., and they all can be normal.
The purpose of delaying withdrawals is to make sure enough money is coming IN first before paying anything OUT. So you should watch out for changes.
Whip – If you go onto the MAPS website you will see banner ads which the general public can click on.
Oz- I am buying advertising not stealing money… NO one is stealing from anyone by buying advertising space.
Now as I have already explained this. MAPS is like any other advertising business, it will go bust if no more advertising is bought. No different from Google or Yahoo etc. This is not unique to MAPS.
I have already explained this and have said I’m making more money from each credit pack faster now than I did when I first started. This is because there are 80,000+ members in MAPS and it does not take much maths to work out why this would be bringing in a lot of money from members buying advertising credit packs and banner advertising.
So unless you are a member your comment “Their ROI liabilities aren’t getting any smaller”. is something you cannot possibly know as a 100% fact. My experience is telling me a totally differently story and that is the money being earned is on the increase.
I am not sure why you think they are offering securities because MAPS are selling advertising space and not securities.
This is the problem when someone does not join MAPS and thinks they know all the facts. In this case it has lead you to think something is worthless without knowing or having the true facts at hand, like I do.
Now let me explain the credit packs are used to advertise any business opportunity you wish. The reason why it works so well when advertising on the MAPS website is because you are advertising to like mined business opportunity seekers.
No different to advertising a new cat toy in a cat magazine. The reason for advertising in that magazine would be because it would be the right audience.
M_Norway – Money goes into my available balance on my MAPS account. That money is available to me to send my Solid Trust or VX Gateway.
MAPS have never taken any longer than a few hours to pay out from my available balance. So no, I do not believe they are holding onto any money before paying out.
Yes there can be delays with PayPal and Solid Trust because if you are a new customer and for their protection they can withhold money for 48 hours or even 2 weeks sometime, but this is normally what PayPal do to new customers, but it seems Solid Trust Pay do not do this.
you have yourself described an investment contract, which is a security. MAPS is not registered with the SEC to sell securities. this is fraud 1.
the credit packs you buy are bunkum products which are not generating any income from advertisement. all the money in MAPS is from new investors . this is a ponzi and this is fraud 2.
if you’ve reached 80,000 members then your’e ripe to be noticed by the regulators, or ripe to go bust.
I was talking about the VALUE in a normal market, not the PRICE you have paid for the “Credit Packs”. The “Credit Packs” are only “worth” something inside the system itself, where people are buying them because of the prospected ROI.
Or do you seriously buy them because of your own desire to own them, use them, consume them, play with them, look at them, give them away as presents, etc.? 🙂
I estimated the value to be “worthless” in a normal market. They cost almost nothing to produce, and have a very limited function for people in general.
The only ones bringing in any fresh money from the outside will be the new investors?
* You buy ads, but you don’t pay with real money?
* You click on ads, but you don’t pay for that either?
New investors will pay real money IN as an initial investment. e.g. $500
* They will get worthless “Credit Packs”, e.g. 10 units.
* “Credit Packs” will pay a ROI after some time, e.g. µ$600
* Monopoly money can be reinvested, e.g. 12 units
* New “Credit Packs” will pay a ROI, e.g. µ$720
* Monopoly money can be reinvested, e.g. 14 units
* New “Credit Packs” will pay a ROI, e.g. µ$864
* Monopoly money can be reinvested, e.g. 17 units
(µ$ = currency symbol for monopoly money)
The system described there doesn’t need any real money to work. It will only need real money coming IN from new investors to support withdrawals for the old ones.
People will FEEL they’re earning money, FEEL that their investments are growing. So the system is primarily designed to keep inexperienced investors happy, while the company can keep their money for as long as possible.
@silkywizard
Purchases do not deliver an advertised ROI. Investments do.
You are investing in unregistered securities and stealing funds from those who join and invest after you.
“Advertising businesses” do not pay cash ROIs to their customers.
Given you can’t actually purchase advertising, the above makes little sense.
Advertising space does not pay out a cash ROI, investments do.
MAPS are not registered with the SEC, thus in the US they are offering unregistered securities.
It’s not rocket science. Drop the *wink wink nudge nudge* pseudo compliance crap.
I have decided this will be my last contribution to this article on My Advertising Pays.
MAPS does not need to be regulated by the SEC because it does not hold money to be invested on behalf of it’s members or clients.
MAPS shares out its profits and does not give interest on the money they have or invest any of the money it brings in, into stocks, shares, bonds and so on in order to make a profit for the members of MAPS. Unless it does that it does not have to be a regulated by the SEC.
Please read the SEC website for further clarification.
Ponzi companies are illegal and if MAPS was a Ponzi company it would be closed down by now but as already explained they share the profits of the company out so this does not classify them as a Ponzi company and any investigation from the authorities would clear them from any wrong doing.
M_Norway – Again as I have said they are not worthless advertising products on the MAPS website because people in MAPS use them to promote their business opportunities and the report backs from the members are they are having a good success rate from the advertising.
To me worthless means useless and this is far from useless advertising if you are getting sales from the advertising like I have.
* You buy ads, but you don’t pay with real money?
Yes you do pay for ads and the money comes from your adverting profits and money put into MAPS from your Solid Trust Account or VX Gateway account.
* You click on ads, but you don’t pay for that either?
Yes you do as explained above.
MONOPOLY MONEY??? – I think you are missing the point because when I receive my share of the profits it goes into my available money and this money can be used to buy more adverting or can be withdrawn into my Solid Trust Pay or VX Gateway account. This means it is real money because you can withdraw it or spend it on more advertising.
OZ – You are investing in unregistered securities and stealing funds from those who join and invest after you.
As explained above MAPS does not have or own any unregistered securities because it does not hold money to be invested on behalf of it’s members or clients.
For further clarification on the above paragraph please take a look on the SEC website where it explains it all in great detail.
Again as I keep repeating I make my money from the profits and not from stealing money from other members coming in after me.
“Advertising businesses” do not pay cash ROIs to their customers. –
Yes that is correct and that is because they keep their profits instead of sharing them out. MAPS is an advertising business which does share out the profits instead of keeping it.
*Given you can’t actually purchase advertising, the above makes little sense.
Yes I do buy advertising and as explained above, – I pay for my advertising from my adverting profits or money from my Solid Trust account or VX Gateway account.
Please do not take my word for it, go and read about it on the SEC website about what “unregistered securities” are because if you did your research like I did, you would know that MAPS is not selling any unregistered securities.
Finally I would like to thank you all for this debate which I have enjoyed being involved in, even if we clearly have not agree on most points.
MAPS is selling investment contracts which are securities.
read up on ‘Investment Contracts’ and come back.
don’t you run away!!
@silky
Of course it does. They are offering unregistered securities to US citizens.
Which comes from affiliate investors, and is paid out to affiliate investors based on the amount they have invested.
Says who? The world is full of Ponzi schemes that haven’t been shut down.
Right, you just deposit fairy wings on the promise of an advertised ROI.
Cut the crap son.
You invest and steal from those who invest after you.
Again, cut the crap son.
Purchasing products and services does not pay out a ROI, investments pay out a ROI.
And why don’t you read up on AdSurfDaily, as you’re clearly utterly clueless or shamelessly deceitful when it comes to Ponzi schemes.
My money is on the latter.
Best of luck with the scamming.
Wouldn’t it be better if, unlike you, people read it AND comprehended what they are reading.
I gotta tell ya, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more complete misreading of securities and investment laws and the role of the SEC in regulating them.
That’s probably a good idea. 🙂
The advertisers don’t pay for the “Credit packs” with real money. They pay DIRECTLY from the back office (except for the initial purchase). And the back office doesn’t hold any money?
The only ones paying for them are the participants themselves. So the total amount of money MAPS can pay OUT (withdrawals) will be limited to the amount the investors have brought IN themselves from the outside.
Initial investments will bring in fresh money.
Reinvestments of “profits” won’t.
BTW, you have been in MAPS since January 2014? Why are you still referring to “report back from members” when you have your OWN experience with how it works for you personally?
And you neglected to answer the rest of the question. ‘Closed loop advertising’ is not advertising.
And I have yet to see any legitimate business have an issue with paypal. scammers don’t want to link a bank account to become ‘verified’ by paypal due to their illegal activities. It’s just that simple.
I called it “monopoly money” because most people know how it works. It’s a type of money you can use inside a game only. You can’t use it to pay for groceries or pay bills.
Since the back office isn’t a bank account, it can’t be used for real monetary transactions. It means most of the internal transactrions must be about monopoly transactions.
If you took all of your “available money” plus 50c shopping, you still wouldn’t have enough to buy a decent cup of coffee
…and I just spat MY coffee out everywhere reading that ^^
These are all false and liable comments. I know very well Simon Stepsys. In fact many years ago Simon Stepsys recommended me a business online when he could not get the answers from the owner of the company, Simon told me to request a refund from the company. I did and I got my money back, other people believed in the company and they lost their money.
Simon Stepsys is a honest man with a son and a partner. Simon would not sponsor if he does not believe in the company. Simon is not responsible on Banners Brokers failure.
I just want to remind people, anyone can get scammed even in a job. If people are dishonest, they can deceive you. Simon Stepsys and myself are honest people who want to help people to succeed.
This is a real business. I have withdrawn $300. They money went into my paypal and I received the money into my bank account.
That is fact because I recorded a video.
Hahaha, good round of exchanges here. My verdict… IT’S A TIE!
Bottomline… everything in life is a gamble. We venture into anything that promises good fortune. We rise and fall but get back up and move on with life. We deal with failures like humans fighting for survival every moment of our lives.
@Paolo
What a stunningly convincing argument.
Try removing Stepsys’ dick from your mouth. He’s a serial Ponzi scammer and you’re quite clearly one of his scamming minions.
There’s nothing “honest” about Ponzi pimps. And whether you made any money or not in one of the scams he participated in is neither here nor there.
@daking
The only “verdict” here is that My Advertising Pays is a Ponzi scheme, by virtue of its business model.
That’s the bottom line, not a bunch of Ponzi smoke and mirrors crap.
Paolo which online scam did Simon Stepsys tell you to get Chargeback from?
How many people have you or Stepsys helped build an income over $20,000/yr that has lasted more than 2 years?
How can either of you, help ANYONE, when neither of you even know the definition of “residual”, let alone have had ANY success AT ALL at obtaining it yourselves?
Right from the beginning of this article – improper and shallow view being made missing out crutial infomation I quote “MyAdvertisingPays has no retailable products or services. ” you have NOT looked in the quality traffic being sold here, just like google/yahoo/bing all sell traffic, this is a marketable product. enough said.
Quality of traffic… in a Ponzi scheme?
Asserting there’s any quality of traffic in a Ponzi scheme where participants are required to view supplied ads to qualify for ROIs is assinine.
Ponzi advertising isn’t marketable to anyone except Ponzi investors. Legitimate third-party advertisers aren’t interested.
Having been with the site for about 5 months now I have come to the conclusion its a scam. The advertising is garbage, I have spent the equivalent of thousands of dollars on the “advertising” and while i have made a couple of sales, it is largely ineffective.
All you have to do is take one look at the home page and ask yourself “Is this site selling enough banner ads and guaranteed visitors to cover the over one million dollars it has paid out to members in the last year”
The only possible answer is no freaking way. I have not seen one legit business advertising the entire time i have been using it, its just scams within scams. The only way this works is new investor money is being used to pay out that scum bag Simon Stepsys and all the other old investors.
If you are involved in this i would suggest you get your money out now while you still can.
Did’t you find it suspicious that all the braggers of big money never have their autopurchases ‘active’ but tell everyone that they must repurchase?
How are they ‘making’ money if having to repurchase is the only way to do it? See my point?
Everyone in the system is repurchasing til they max out the credit packs at 1200.
The quest to get to 1200 credit packs is constantly being rammed down your throat so you will keep your money in the system, even though the vast majority of people will never get there.
Yes the only way to make real money in this is to get referal commissions. As for the auto-purchase feature it is my understanding that this hasnt been working, however i may be wrong, and i am sure as hell not going to buy another credit pack to find out.
Great bit of info on the difference between a ponzi scheme and a truly illegal mlm scam. thanks for bringing this to my attention.
Just a quick update. MAPS hasbeen registered as a UK based company with Mike Deese being the company CEO.
This was deliberately done by Deese in order to prevent SEC investigating the company. We now know that SEC would have closed MAPS down as it follows a ponzi business model.
Deese has no day to day running of the company, however Tony and Lynn Booth , Simon Stepsys, Richard Mead, Shaun Smith are heavily involved in running this ponzi scheme
Where do you get your information from Lorraine?
Last one out please put the lights out:
patrickpretty.com/2015/03/09/part-2-myadvertisingpays-scheme-referenced-in-telexfree-related-class-action-complaint-that-alleges-racketeering-a-zeek-tie-too/
I’m in direct contact with one of the mentioned major players..
Does anybody want me to ask them a particular question?
And I’ll post reply here……..(BigNerd is not my real name lol)
Sure BigNerd.
Ask them who the major corporate advertisers are that are advertising with MAPS that allow them to generate the tens of millions of dollars in revenue required for MAPs to be a real business.
The sheeple are posting actual pictures of their new houses and cars now.
They truly believe they are going to make millions and that MAPS will never end.
Registration in UK takes 2 hours and can be done for a few hundred Euros at most. Doesn’t stop SEC investigation though.
Illegal’s still illegal no matter what corp identity one uses.
Seen it many times before on all the various scams. Bling-flashing is how you get more sheeple to sign up, being a perverted form of peer pressure. I.e. “everybody else is doing it, why not you?”
HeHe, or:
or even:
It’s time for the regulators to take notice and zone in then.
Lots of people are buying luxuries they aren’t going to be able to afford to keep once MAPS ends.
MAPS was registered in missisippi,USA in september 2013, as my advertising pays LLC, but the status of the filing is dissolved.
the address provided in the US registration, is mike deese’s home address which is a low income neighborhood.
mike deese is a former airforceman and postal worker. before MAPS he was pushing some cycler scams.
the MAPS website sets him up as some wizard internet marketeer, but his background totally negates that. he seems to be set up as a fall guy.
in march 2014, MAPS was registered again in the USA, as a limited company, with a SERVICE address at
so, MAPS is NOT out of reach of the SEC, in my view.
MAPS was registered in the UK on march 6th,2014, by Michael Everette Deese. the registration address is just a brass plate business address, which has 48 businesses registered at the same address.
now that MAPS has been named in a class action suit of telexfree, in the US, the SEC cannot possibly ignore it, after it has been brought to public attention through a court filing.
i will not be surprised if MAPS is already under investigation in the US.
yeah right, simon stepsys, is such an honest man, that he got an ‘honorable mention’ in none less than the British Parliament itself.
as far back as 2001, when stepsys was still immersed in ponzi scams, this is what a parliament member said on record:
last year, in 2104, a facebook page dedicated to the banners broker scam, had asked net losers to contact the ‘office of fair trading’ in the UK, as they had promised to look into stepsys activities again, if they received complaints.
there are already FB complaints that MAPS may be on the downturn. this is as good an opportunity, as any other, to contact the fair trading office.
remember the public has a very loud voice today, due to the the internet and access to information, a few complaints is all it takes to pull down these scammers, who have been at it for decades.
look at achievecommunity, worldwidesolutionz, bringhomethebacon, in recent times, these ponzis have been brought down, in part due to complaints by just a few people.
nothing scares ponzi scammers more than threatening to complain to the authorities!
Except the self-deluded ones like the UFUN folks, who kept on claiming that Thai DSI had “cleared” them back in 2014 and will do so again despite arrests few days ago.
And except the scammers who want to use the “authorities” as the boogeyman to a) keep the sheeple in like and b) to set the stage for shutdown and run off with whatever’s left in the bank.
i hope i’m not spamming but i’m just finding such a goldmine of information about MAPS which can help people like paulo, who seem to be smitten by simon stepsys and MAPS.
there is an FB page dedicated to exposing the MAPS fraud which is specifically targeting simon stepsys: facebook.com/pages/My-Advertising-Pays-Scam/788704724492200?fref=ts
in 1999, a british high court passed an injunction against stepsys, ordering him not to participate or promote fraud schemes. this seems to have had minimal impact on mr stepsys, who is all over youtube promoting MAPS:
webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20140402142426/http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/freedom_of_information/FoIA-responses/2011/Press_release_18_99.pdf
alexa traffic ratings, sees an approx 50% reduction in popularity of the MAPS site. this is a good indication of impending demise.
ponzis depend on recruitment, and slow down in traffic is a direct reflection of reduced recruitment. there was huge ‘drop’ in oct 2014, and the company has not recovered since.
alexa.com/siteinfo/myadvertisingpays.com
as it is, with all stalling ponzis, the management is therefore all set now, to inject something ‘exciting and new’ to asspaddle all their members into bringing new recruits, into a dying MAPS.
there’s some crock about ‘targeted ad’s, which is in beta testing, and increased rates for packages.
what’s the point in ‘targeting’ closed loop ponzi ads? the target audience remains the same, ie the ponzi participants!
listen up MAPS promoters, you’ve had an approx one year run. that’s like ‘good’ for a ponzi scheme. time to pull down the shutters, the public is getting peeved with you already. run stepsys run.
And it’s time for… stupid MAP meme!
Only a ponzi scheme would pick a guy who died being shot full of arrows, as “bound for glory”, and pick a tag that involves tricking people.
amlmskeptic.blogspot.com/2015/05/scam-absurdities-stupid-meme-passed-on.html#more
The end is near.. site been down most of the day.. cant do withdraws because crisis in family.. stepsys map group gone to secret.. and strict orders to remove all income claim screenshots…
Bye Bye Baby.
They’ve made it easy to locate the top 1% of the “net winners” once legal authorities step in:
simon.macmate.me/Site_84/The_TOP_1.html
i have seen and looked up resources on both sides. still not satisfied.
i have seen popular companies being advertised internationally. Apple, Five Guys and many notable american ads are shown. i see strange but popular foreign companies being posted.
the loop ads (MAP subscriber posting their own) does not generate money (stupid) makes people think it is ponzi.
facebook does not allow any MAP website to be posted there due to spamming.
i do earn money by posting popular companies and see huge rewards. it is win-win for everyone.
i do withdraw immediately and as fast as i buy more CP. i do not see electronic money transfer any problem.
the problem was to set up a cloud bank (VXGateway) that takes a few days just like i did with paypal. just pain in the ass. nothing to do with MAP
i just made a withdrawal a few minutes ago. it was pretty fast. it isn’t slowing down…
It will only become a problem when you don’t withdraw payouts, but reinvest “back office payouts” directly into some new “investment units” of any type.
Many people don’t know the difference between a back office, internal ewallets, external third party ewallets and bank accounts. Only the last one will contain any money (electronic money or credit).
You see those ads being posted, but do those companies pay MAP anything for it?
You have realized that. “Internal ads won’t generate any income or profit for the company”.
Will those external “interational companies” ads generate any income or profit for MAP? Those ads can be fake, can’t they?
Clicking on 10 ads per day won’t generate any profit in itself. MAP will need to have someone paying for that exposure. Currently the only ones paying money in to MAP are the affiliates themselves purchasing advertising credits.
The booster credit did show people clicking to check out the website. thus the source has to pay MAP.
same way with youtube. i earn money the same way. i see MAP extended the concept as youtube with better strategy of return.
that is where i see you are wrong. if you click on looped ads, you will notice no return.
if you click on company ads, you will notice return. there is no uniform value in return.
it depends on the contracts MAP has with companies. that is growing because of growing traffic and interest in MAP.
closed loop ‘advertising’ is a fraud (this is the exact same this as adsurfdaily and banners broker scams) and always will be.
If I do a search for a legitimate product, maps is not in any search result. you people are paying yourselves at a very, very slow pace.
There is absolutely NO outside revenue coming in which IS what makes it a ponzi.
If there is, prove it – and not with scammer gibberish. Real, verifiable facts only.
Merely the existence of “company ads” doesn’t prove there’s ENOUGH of them to be generated the supposed income you all are getting.
ZeekRewards was the same way: there’s never enough auctions to be generating all the profits being “shared”.
And the company will never tell you how many “company ads” they are getting and for how much, as they will claim it’s “trade secret”.
But if that doesn’t bother you, well, it’s your money. You can flush it, burn it, spend it… But giving it away to people you can’t even count on to tell you the truth? It’s your money.
Do you contact those companies first to get an agreement about payment for those ads? Or do you simply send them a bill afterwards, e.g. “I have generated 1,000 clicks on one of your ads, please send me a huge amount of money”.
Profit will usually come from a payment. Clicking ads won’t generate any profit if nobody pays for it.
Either you or I must have misunderstood something here.
This guy brags about being in the top 1% income bracket in the world on his Facebook Timeline; but, this isn’t going to end well:
youtube.com/watch?v=MQRNS0cRBD8&feature=youtu.be
Only happens if his world is a ten-block radius from his house.
I hope MAPS publish real accounts or some verified stats at least to show money from external advertisers. I know adhitz paying maybe $100 per day but when u consider ss drawing out thousands per day (on his EIGHTEEN PERCENT REFERRAL COMMISSION) its hard to see maths adding up.
MAPwinner you are NOT seeing ads on the traffic exchange from external advertisers as you need credit packs to post these and I can tell you apple or any company is buying credit packs.
When you see ads for a big company it will be someone affiliated with that company wanting referral commission if u buy.
Lets just admit it, maps is a ponzi, get in early and cash out, its a game play it like one.
@K Chang
Right. LOL!
He does plan on becoming a millionaire by the end of the year and dares anyone to tell him he can’t:
facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=986568201374870&set=a.170468946318137.36234.100000650987726&type=1&theater
This is where you miss it. You don’t need to buy credit Packs before you can advertise on MAPs.
Any registered person can fund his/her advertising account directly from a credit card and use the fund to buy any form of adverts; banners, flash, pop up etc.
What does that to do with investing and then getting paid with subsequently invested funds?
As long as MAPS operates as a Ponzi scheme, whatever else you can and cannot do in the business is irrelevant.
The advertising credit path is well-worn Ponzi territory, you aren’t fooling anyone.
simon stepsys is on a roll these days with MAPS. time to stalk him!
well, there’s already an FB group stalking simon stepsys pretty professionally and causing ‘torturous interference’ in his ponzi day to day life 🙂
this was reported on june 18, 2015:
what’s gonna happen to stepsys poor new badass bentley!!
now this a complete fun riot!
apparently stepsys wanted to host a mega MAPS gala on july 4th, 2015.
he booked his old haunt the cumberland hotel for the event.
the guys at My Advertising Pays – Scam, emailed the hotel about stepsys ponzi activities.
cumberland cancelled stepsys booking!
on june 26th, stepsys ran and booked the holiday inn hotel, regent park.
the guys at My Advertising Pays – Scam, emailed the hotel about stepsys ponzi activities.
holiday inn hotel cancelled stepsys booking!
panting and furious, stepsys ran and booked the park plaza hotel.
the guys at My Advertising Pays – Scam, emailed the hotel about stepsys ponzi activities.
park plaza hotel cancelled stepsys booking!
net result: june 4th MAPS gala got CANCELLED!!
^^hahahaha.
moral of the story: those who scam through the internet, shall hang by it.
It’s sad and pitiful if these people think MAPS is “teaching them the fundamentals of internet marketing and paying them to learn and perfect their skills”:
facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=995356403829383&set=a.170468946318137.36234.100000650987726&type=1&theater
Hi is there a review on BLM regards traffic monsoon, another ponzi scheme similar to MAPS, cheers.
Traffic Monsoon were single-level commissions last time I checked, ie. not MLM (but still quite obviously a Ponzi scheme).
Ok thanks, still a con though, the bloke who ‘runs ‘ its is apparently well known con artist, why people give them money ill never know!
Aren’t maps single level commissions? Thought you only got referal money from direct referrals rather than loads of levels deep.
There’s likely a matrix structure behind the ad pack ROIs.
Referral commissions otherwise are indeed single-level.
this is the ASA ruling:
asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2015/7/Simon-Stepsys-Success-International-Ltd/SHP_ADJ_300740.aspx#.VaX4o6RViko
now, obviously simon stepsys is the owner of ‘simon stepsys success international’, and this is what his FB page says 13 hrs ago. he has taken the ASA’s suggestions to heart and is now blatantly asking people to buy more packs and refer more people :
fat lot of good the ASA ruling achieved!!
complaints should be made to the UK securities regulators, and not toothless ASA.
I personally don’t think it’s fair to expect an Advertising Standards regulator to address the Ponzi scheme issues.
that’s true. reporting stepsys to the ASA was a wasted effort by somebody.
stepsys has registered a new company in june 2015, and may have some fresh ponzi plans afoot:
according to the activist FB page ‘my advertising pays – scam’,
the company ‘my advertising pays’ has not filed its accounts this year, and have been issued with a notification to a ‘strike off action’ of the Companies House.
Companies House is a UK govt body that:
facebook.com/788704724492200/photos/a.788752914487381.1073741828.788704724492200/1099109866785016/?type=1&theater
Which source did you use there?
It looks like you have quoted a shill source?
MyAdvertingPays – Scam (Facebook) has a different version.
It starts like this:
The so called “ruling” in your post focused 67% on Simon Stepsys’ arguments, and then it jumped directly to the conclusion (33%).
i used the ‘straight from the horse’s mouth’ source which is the ASA itself ie:
asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2015/7/Simon-Stepsys-Success-International-Ltd/SHP_ADJ_300740.aspx#.VaX4o6RViko
do you think this^^ is a shill site?
according to wiki, this is how the ASA works:
i think what you found on ‘MyAdvertingPays – Scam’, may be a part of the ‘complaint’ made to ASA.
I’m not understanding why the ASA would care that MAPS is a Ponzi scheme either.
The MAPS Domain name is registered with Go Daddy and their website is hosted by dottrend.com, both in the USA.
VXGateway.com is one of their payment processors. They have a policy against money laundering and crime.
And, SolidTrust Pay “will suspend any account that is found to be involved in any fraudulent or malicious activity.”
Nope, but I didn’t recognize it as a source for your quote. It looked like you had quoted something from a shill source.
Your quote goes like this:
The decision has the following parts:
I had serious reason to believe that it had been picked up from a shill site, because it only focused on one side of the story. It didn’t identify that more relevant parts were missing.
stepsys is so uber cunning that he has not only registered a new company called Master Key Associates Ltd, but has moved to ‘strike off’ or dissolve his old company ‘simon stepsys success international’.
this is because ASA ordered ‘simon stepsys success international’ to refrain from false advertisement, about MAPS being a source of easy money, where people could earn without investing or referring.
since stepsys wants to continue his lying thieving ways, he will just do so on his new company website.
this is from ‘My Advertising Pays – Scam’s’ Page:
facebook.com/788704724492200/photos/a.788752914487381.1073741828.788704724492200/1100709066625096/?type=1&theater
also, should MAPS investors start worrying about why MAPS is not filing it’s accounts with the Companies House, UK? are they planning a slow motion death?
Frank Calabro Jr is going to be focused on his pain when MAPS collapses or law enforcement steps in:
facebook.com/frankiecalabrojr/videos/vb.100000650987726/999387753426248/?type=2&theater
Frank Calabro Jr has turned into the American version of Simon Stepsys:
facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1006206372744386&set=a.170468946318137.36234.100000650987726&type=1&theater
Are the MAPS participants really so ignorant that they don’t realize this guy is stealing approximately $30,000 monthly from them?
They all seem pretty happy about it.
they high five all the thieves that are stealing from them. Hell, they think getting back half of what they put in on a screen is ‘making money’.
The MAPS website has been offline for about 3 hours now.
Here’s the actual down time:
isitdownrightnow.com/myadvertisingpays.com.html
The website is up now.
That wasn’t a very good indicator that I posted; but, the MAPS website was down for 23 hours. Let the games begin…
(Ozedit: Sunday Times subscription link removed)
Here is the full version
thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/business/money/Consumer/article1599470.ece?shareToken=73b99919f6389d0ae11857cd0dcb1f74
i think the UK regulators will step in now.
the cup overfloweth, so to speak.
The party is over for USA participants:
myadvertisingpays.info/2015/10/the-most-important-update-ever-released
let the hilarity ensue. How many will have the balls to go after deese to get their money back? his 6 month excuse gives them plenty of time to run. They allegedly ‘make so much money advertising’ there should be plenty to settle up right now.
Seems like this is already doing a “runner” to go and leave all the US members hanging in the wind as they switch currencies.
If business is as good as he says in the link above. Why not just stop taking new members and continue to pay the original USA members?
I think the heat of being in the USA is what the real issue is here.
So I don’t know if he can hide or not with this move.
Hi all,
I am french and I would like to know why MAP leave USA?
Because they are offering securities and aren’t registered with the SEC.
The offering of unregistered securities is a crime in the US and so MAP abandoned ship.
Article updated with news of new My Advertising Pays affiliate fees.
Investors will now make almost €1200 EUR less annually.
Myadvertisingpays has left it’s members in South Africa in big confusion and conflicts since none of them has anything going on.
MAP moved from Dollar to Euro, dumping American market for European market.
The company refunded over $2m to American members to close their accounts (those that wished to do so), and this was concluded in less than a month.
The new policy is that the money you make remains with the banks for a month after which you can withdraw it. The month has passed and withdrawals are back.
I just withdrew my first 500 Euros. I guess haters can continue to hate.
I have been with MAP since July 2014, and there has never been any reason to doubt the company. I withdrew my capital in full just before the switch-over to Euro.
Everything I withdraw now is raw profit. Whoever does not want to participate in MAP will always have an excuse for not doing so.
^^ Got to love a shameless Ponzi pimp.
Best of luck with the scamming.
From 31 August 2016 Map Is Closed, Traffic Sharing Is Not Distribuited Any More, So Hope You Have Removed All Your Money Because Is All Lost!
mapevents.info has gone…The Booths have sanitised their FB pages and CHJ is pimping other ponzis, and all meetings cancelled
I read most of the post above but I am not satisfied. Some people claim MAP to be a ponzi scheme and others do not.
Ok I agree that it looks like ponzi, in that case where are the people who suffered losses from this company?
All that I see is some people who did not participated in MAP claiming that it is ponzi. Where are the real people who participated but lost their money in the process.
Side Note: I am not a member of MAP. Just doing some research.
No they don’t.
Using newly invested funds to pay a $60 ROI on $49.99 investments is a Ponzi scheme. There’s nothing to claim, it is what it is.
People don’t like to broadcast they’ve been scammed, it’s difficult to accept. And in any event, whether or not a Ponzi has collapsed yet or not is irrespective of it being a Ponzi.
A business model (compensation plan defines a business as a Ponzi scheme, not whether or not you’ve personally heard from victims.