Golden Scratchie Review: Scratchie app & recruitment
Golden Scratchie is an opportunity offered through IAM Corp, with the company hosted off the IAM Corp website.
IAM Corp do not provide any contact details on their website, but the company’s terms and conditions do state that
The provincial courts located in Vancouver, British Columbia shall be the exclusive jurisdiction and venue for any lawsuit or action with respect to this Agreement.
Whether or not that means IAM Corp are based in Canada or not is unclear.
Suggesting they might not be is the domain registration information for “iamcorp.eu”, a domain cited in the IAM Corp Terms and Conditions which redirects to their primary .com domain.
The .eu domain is registered to Eurasia Finance Ltd. through an address in the Isle of Man (UK).
Further research reveals a number of holding companies and businesses offering registrations exist at this address, suggesting IAM Corp has no actual presence there.
Cited as the CEO of IAM Corp is Peter Karroll (right), with a quote attributed to Karroll on the IAM Corp website reading:
People pay us for the privilege of their computers talking to our computers. This is the perfect business conversion model.
On his LinkedIn profile Karroll lists his location as Vancouver, suggesting that if the company is not registered in Canada, then that’s at the very least where it’s being run out of.
On his IAM Corp bio, Karroll is credited with professional ties to the music, entertainment and online gaming industries. I wasn’t able to find anything specifically related to MLM however, suggesting IAM Corp (and Golden Scratchie) are his first MLM ventures.
Read on for a full review of the Golden Scratchie MLM business opportunity.
The Golden Scratchie Product Line
Even though it’s billed as an “opportunity”, Golden Scratchie is listed as a product on the IAM Corp website.
Golden Scratchie is our fabulous entry-level affiliate product – your doorway to the diverse, exciting and highly profitable world of IAM. Think of it as a Golden Opportunity
The actual Golden Scratchie product appears to be a gambling app, through which can win
electronic “toys” such as iPhones, iPad Air’s, and TV’s through to luxury weekend getaways, travel packages, cruises, cars and so much more!
Each month affiliates pay a Golden Scratchie subscription fee, which is bundled with 400 points.
A go on the scratchie app costs either $1, $2 or $5, with 10 points = to $1.
Put simply, each month a Golden Scratchie affiliate has $40 of virtual currency to spend on IAM Corp’s scratchie app.
The Golden Scratchie Compensation Plan
The Golden Scratchie compensation plan sees affiliates pay $40 for a matrix position.
This position is then put in a 5×6 matrix, with commissions paid out on the recruitment of new affiliates.
A 5×6 matrix places an affiliate at the top of the matrix with five positions directly under them (level 1):
The subsequent levels of the matrix are created by multiplying positions on the previous level by five.
This means the second level of the matrix has twenty-five positions, the third one hundred and twenty-five and so on and so forth down a total of six levels (19530 positions).
Commissions are paid as positions in the matrix are filled, with positions filled via the direct or indirect recruitment of new Golden Scratchie affiliates.
How much of a commission is paid out is determined by what level of the matrix positions are filled:
- level 1 (5 positions) = $8 per position filled
- levels 2 to 5 (25, 125, 625 and 3125 positions) = $2.50 per position filled
- level 6 (15,625 positions) = $7 per position filled
As Golden Scratchie affiliate fees charged are monthly, so too are commissions paid out through the matrix.
Joining Golden Scratchie
Affiliate membership with Golden Scratchie is $40 a month
Conclusion
The core of the Golden Scratchie income opportunity is to pay $40 a month and then recruit as many affiliates who do the same.
Nothing is sold to retail customers, with 100% of the revenue paid out in commissions sourced from monthly affiliate membership fees.
This pegs Golden Scratchie squarely in pyramid scheme territory, which is hardly considering IAM Corp’s own compensation plan appears to also be recruitment-focused.
I’m not entirely sure what the relationship between IAM Corp’s compensation plan is and that of Golden Scratchie, but your basically looking at a $100 to $5000 buy in and then you go and recruit others.
As far as the product goes, scratchies are gambling, so anyone promoting Golden Scratchie needs to take into consideration any applicable gaming licenses that might apply.
The Golden Scratchie page itself has absolutely no information on gambling or gaming licenses whatsoever.
Other than that, seeing as the Golden Scratchie MLM opportunity has nothing to do with the app, there’s not really much point getting into it much further.
Success in Golden Scratchie will require a ton of recruitment, with the scheme collapsing once recruitment of new affiliates slows down.
Without a sizeable downline, it’s doubtful anyone’s going to be coughing up $40 a month – which spells kaboom for Golden Scratchie’s future.
Lotteries (which includes scratchers) are prohibited in most locations in the US.
And their servers are in Lansing Michigan.
Tsk, tsk, tsk.
On their site they claim to have generated over 1 billion dollars in revenue!
Is this claim revenue generated through affiliates?
I can speak to LOTTERY comment above. I am signing on to IAM-Social Club so I have investigated it thoroughly.
This Golden Scratchie is 100% a sweepstakes, not a lottery. The contest rules comply with USA law and International law as they apply in various countries. Here is the info in USA on sweepstakes;
Regarding the claim to generating over 1 billion in revenue, this is not only through affiliates. Some of it was via Network marketing and brand building such as social media, contesting, sweepstakes, television, live events, etc.
The Principle of IAMCorp Peter Karroll has been over 4 decades as a successful entrepreneur in entertainment industries. The claim on the website speaks to his accomplishments, and involvement in building a huge entertainment juggernaut.
I don’t think anyone can deny Peter Karroll’s abilities to operate a successful organization and with so many MLMs collapsing because they are operated by MLM recruiters and not operators Peter Karroll brings some great concepts and strategies in IAMCorp.
Anytime you have a guy who has his real world experience in operations, marketing, brand build, and in the market segments that IAMCorp is in you would be smart to give a listen and see for yourself.
@Charles
If you’re going to call it sweepstakes, does that mean a set number of scratchie sessions have been generated on the Golden Scratchie backend?
When does it reset? Are participants notified when the system resets? Are they notified how many games are left to be generated before the reset?
What if I purchase spins and don’t use them, the system would have to wait for me to use them just incase one of my spins was a winner would it not?
Paper scratchies have set winners on the cards, virtual scratchies are algorithm generated on the fly (using whatever settings have been punched in) – there’s a difference.
So given that’s not what is mentioned on the website, IAM Corp is being intentionally disingenuous by claiming it has generated a billion dollars in revenue.
The above, taken from the IAM Corp website, obviously implies that IAM Corp affiliates have generated over a billion in revenue. Slimy marketing usually doesn’t get you far in MLM.
Um, completely off topic but:
It gets you a hell of a lot farther than trying to sell actual products to real customers.
Just sayin.
The Juggernaut typically crushed its devotees. 🙂
From Wikipedia:
If you have to PAY for a spin, it’s a lottery, not a sweepstakes.
California sweepstakes rules as per Department of Consumer Affairs:
dca.ca.gov/publications/legal_guides/u-3.shtml
You paid a monthly fee for the points. That makes it a lottery. Don’t bother arguing “the points came free with the membership”.
Which kinda makes me doubt on what sort of “investigation” you really did.
no, the jagannath rath yatra is not some ‘suicide fest’:)
if some unlucky overexcited ‘devotees’ got themselves crushed in some accident, lets not blame the jagannath juggernaut for it.
it’s a heavy wooden chariot pulled by devotees, and gathers momentum and oops it has no brakes!
You guys are really thowing it against the wall to see if it sticks 😉
Here is reality. The game Golden Scratchie does not require a fee to play. This makes it a social game. The fact that it comes with prizes makes it a sweepstakes.
We did not make a billion dollars in MLM “yet” this is a factual statement as we have said and continue to say that you are following successful entrepreneurs by join IAMCorp..
The types of revenues we refer to are public information and came as a direct result of our concepts, hard work, innovation, and combining various entertainment products together to take an already successful company up to a Billion dollar valuation.
This is fact and nothing to dispute there.
The Network Marketing world is filled with marketers who are inexperienced in Operations. This is where we come in above much of the competition. We Operate and we have been doing operations for many years.
The companies are real. the products are real, the innovation is real and more than anything, I love it when people fall all over themselves to try to diminish the accomplishment of others.
This is because perhaps they have not had the guts or the staying power themselves to build anything great. Easy to sit back and take pot shots in forums, nothing new or innovative there fellas. But what we are coming is is a very fresh and well put together approach to a fantastic combination of digital products, digital delivery and solid conservative business operations.
This makes the organization a great opportunity short and long term. so Oz and the group, please have your fun at my expense, I have been here before, and doubters and naysayers are like the wind, they blow by the doors while we remain solid and real.
(Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempts and attempt to take conversation offsite removed)
So why are affiliates charged $40 a month?
Where does the money to pay the prizes come from?
And nowhere along the way did it strike you that having no retail offering and paying out commissions on the recruitment of new affiliates places you in chain-recruitment pyramid scheme territory?
Must have missed it between all that ego stroking going on hey…
From the Golden Scratchie website:
Clearly, POINTS are needed to play the cards, and you BUY points with $$$$.
Your “explanations” aren’t fooling any one when it directly contradicts the official website.
here is what the official FB page of golden scratchie says:
so you have to Pay to Start and Yet it’s Free? what’re you saying peter karrol?
there is a video on the official FB page of golden scratchie which goes – do you have 40$, do you know 5 people who have 40$ and want to win fabulous prizes and 100,000$ a month…blah blah.
so yes, complete pyramid selling and inviting recruitment and offering easy money.
actually, the people whom you call the ‘doubters’ and ‘naysayers’ are the ones who will be saying ‘i told you so’ after all your hot air burns a hole in the pocket of your participants, and you run out the first door you can find.
whoa peter karoll, remember we are on the internet, and we all can get information for free, so stop the bullshit already.
you are not running a sweepstakes, what you are running is an illegal lottery.
a lottery has three parts:
1] Prizes
2] Winners Chosen by Chance
3] Consideration
if your program has all three elements you are running an illegal private lottery.
the first two points are not up for argument in golden scratchie, as they are self evident.
you are trying to skirt the third point of ‘consideration’ by making a misrepresentation that – ‘The game Golden Scratchie does not require a fee to play’.
golden scratchie requires participants to pay 40$, in order to be able to win the prizes. golden scratchie encourages ‘referrals’ and pays for them.
don’t kid yourself, and don’t fool us, mr karrol, you are no sweepstakes at all.
do you have a license to run a private lottery?
Gentlemen, This is a great little club with just us 4 contributing. I love it!!
I have to debunk your theories above and I do so with great appreciation for you giving me this opportunity to really bring out our amazing message and products to the anticipating members of the Network Marketing Community.
I have received countless messages and calls telling me that IAMCorp is what this business needs, a real operational company with long and success driven experience so they can safely do their jobs of marketing products.
This should answer your creative writing above. Love it, really you three should get together and do an MLM novel, bring it to me I’ve done some major book publishing deals in my time for writers 😉
Here is the Golden Scratchie and IAM-40 Products:
Golden Sratchie is a social game, does not require a fee to join or win. it is a lead generator marketing tool to acquire people who are into social gaming. No cash changes hands what so every.
So you can sign up at Golden Scratchie game iand before you pay for the IAM-40 you are awarded free play points. You are by law not required to pay to play or win prizes.
This is completely legal that we give away prizes for a person to give us their contact info and register with us so we can tell them about our products. Not Gambling.
The Iam-40 package is a license to our “Fully Automated Marketing System”. It is $40 per month. This gives them a business operations in a box. Very similar to the model of if you rented corporate office services with office, boardroom, secretary, etc.
Only our system gives you Customer Service, Technical Service, Accounting, Payment Systems, Marketing Tools, Banners, Affiliate tracking codes, Legal compliance, Sales and Marketing training and our sales team will assist you in expanding your network of sales people in your area.
Our promotion offer below says that everyone can pre-order Andi who signs up at the IAMSocial Club (also known as the Golden Scratchie Social Club) at a $120 discount from retail price.
The social club also includes a facebook game called Cruise Club Casino. this is also free play game. As you can see this is a real product and real value built into the system and offer.
If a person sells the Fully Automated Marketing System to one or more marketing people they earn commission based on their sale and their teams revenues, it is a commission based on the licenses sold. for example if you sold 1 license you would earn $8.00 commission Level 1.
If your people sold licenses you earn $2.65 commission etc (Levels 2-6). etc. You can build out a network of license sales where you can earn money from selling the Fully Automated Marketing System as a product.
Everyone who pays $40 is automatically supplied the Fully Automated Marketing System which is a virtual business in a box.
If you sell an “Andi” the product below at full retail price of $249.00 you earn about $75 per unit and the person who was your lead distributer earns $7.50 or 10% of your sale. This is a typical product and commissions system.
The IAM-40 gives you a product to sell called the “Andi”. Android version of Apple TV.
IAM 40: Fully Automated Marketing System – Entry Level (Matrix Commission System)
IAM Social Club
License to distribute “Andi”
“Andi” – Introductory offer of $120 pre-order discount on signup
Cost of IAM-40 is $40 on registration and $40 per month for as long as you wish to use the Fully Automated Marketing System.
The name of the device is “Andi”. After all “Andi” is an Android.
With Andi – Your TV becomes the screen for your Android smartphone.
With Andi – You can get rid of Cable TV bills forever.
Andi has Quad-core power – your Android Phone becomes your game controller.
Andi is Revolutionary – Replaces Cable, Netflix, iTunes, Xbox, Play station, your favorite games on your Android phone are now BIG SCREEN HD, capable of 4K.
Andi is less than ½ price of the U-Box for this offer. Works anywhere you have Wi-Fi
Andi PRE-LAUNCH SALE Price is $199.00 with a commission paid on this sales price of 30% / $60. After the $129.00 and $199.00 Specials the Retail Price is $249.00.
SPECIAL PROMOTION WITH GOLDEN SCRATCHIE ENROLLMENT you can pre-order 1 Andi per Customer at the promotional price without signing up for the Fully Automated Marketing System. WHAT A VALUE!!
HERE IT IS……. WAIT FOR IT…. ARE YOU READY…
WHEN YOU ENROLL IN THE GOLDEN SCRATCHIE YOU CAN PRE-ORDER “ANDI” FOR $129.00 LIMITED ONE TIME, SIGNUP OFFER.
OZ, ANJALI, K.CHANG (Really?) OZ, ANJALI & K.CHANG? No Real Names; Ok I’m having a bit of fun with you three. Lets get on a telephone call and make it a public conference call with thousands of marketers with the 4 of us.
You guys can bring your theories and I will bring REALITY!! Are you ready, lets do this. We will advance Market it worldwide and I’m sure it will drive more business to you Blog.
Best wishes
Peter Karroll
Why are affiliates charged $40 a month then?
You really think a token amount of free points negates the fact that MLM affiliates partcipating in the MLM opportunity have to pay $40 a month?
Anything outside of the MLM opportunity is irrelevant and doesn’t change the fact that it costs affiliates $40 a month to play Golden Scratchie.
That matrix is tied to the $40 a month fee which is tied to playing Golden Scratchie. $40 a month is not free.
If “fully automated marketing system” is bundled with affiliate membership (an MLM income opportunity), then you’re selling affiliate membership. No ifs or buts.
And if you’re selling affiliate membership, that’s chain-recruitment and pyramid scheme territory.
Can we stick to discussing Golden Scratchie without the waffle?
Oh and you’re selling a piracy box too. Good grief, you’re a bit late to that game. I think I’ve reviewed no less then four or five new streambox startups over the past few months.
hey, what about gentlewomen?
also we don’t run a recruitment club here, so stop bashing us for being just three.
all of your balderdash, did not address the question of why you are a sweepstakes and not an illegal private lottery.
you run the alleged ‘sweepstakes’ and people pay you money for ‘this or that’. that’s ‘consideration’ no matter what ‘head’ you put it under ie “Fully Automated Marketing System” or ‘TV box’:
can you read ^^??
i just have to repeat what oz said :
your’e going the whole hog ain’t you mr karroll. you want to be illegal in multiples!
law is a Theory too, and when enforced, becomes a Reality!
Can you tell me how I can sign up and play Golden Scratchie for free, i.e., without being directed to a “Distributor sign up” page?
Also, where is it clearly stated on your site that “no purchase is necessary” to play Golden Scratchie?
including a few ‘free points’ does not dilute the fact that participants have to pay to enter your golden scratchie sweepstakes.
the law in the US [where the iam corp server is] and canada [which is iam corps chosen legal forum], state that sweepstakes participants who join for free should not be disadvantaged in any way, compared to participants who purchase something from the sweepstakes promoter.
the golden scratchie web page says:
this clearly means participants who pay more, have better chances of winning. free participants are the most disadvantaged. this makes your alleged ‘sweepstakes’ illegal.
so, adding free points and being technically correct will not help you skirt the law.
also, canada has a special ‘skill test’ for sweepstakes, winners have to answer skill questions before winning the prize. is this mentioned on your golden scratchie opportunity page?
also in which countries is your sweepstakes available? US sweepstakes are limited to a US audience and sometimes canada too.
similarly canadian sweepstakes are availale to canada and maybe in US too. so i hope you are not running an illegal international sweepstakes.
here are some of the international sweepstakes rules you are up against:
Canada: When running a promotion in Quebec all materials must be available in English AND French. This includes rules, promotional ads, posters, entry forms, web sites, etc. And when you run a sweeps all winners must pass a basic skill test (usually a math problem) to claim their prize.
Sweden: In Sweden, all games of chance (sweepstakes and instant wins) are banned
Ireland: In Ireland, all games of chance (sweepstakes and instant wins) requiring purchase are banned unless a sponsor is a non-profit charity.
Italy: In Italy, you must have your promotion registered, bonded, and have your rules reviewed by Italian counsel – plus you must involve a public official in winner selection. As if that were not cost prohibitive enough, you must also collect all of your sweepstakes data in Italy.
so, you cant just set up a sweepstakes website, and attach a recruitment scheme to it, and set off to sign up the world.
golden scratchie provides no information at all about how the sweepstakes work and to whom it is available. this is a clear sign of a sweepstakes scam.
hit enter too soon & can’t edit..hmmmm
anyway….the point I was trying to make is I didn’t join Golden Scratchie & pay $40. to PLAY….I paid to EARN & have the Legal right to sell their products & EARN Commissions from those sales.
A few years ago I joined 1 of many FREE online casinos… (Ozedit: Waffle about non-MLM casinos removed)
By recruiting other affiliates.
You don’t have the legal right to participate in chain-recruitment schemes.
Oh and please don’t post recruitment spam with your ref link again.
Go read about the Burnlounge case. Its members pay $7.95 a month to be “Mogul” and supposedly earn from music sales. And FTC nailed them as pyramid scheme since to get ahead they also have to buy membership packages too.
The fact is it doesn’t cost $40 for them to do paperwork to let you sell VIRTUAL scratchies. Thus, a good chunk your $40 is clearly going toward the virtual scratchies, all your denials aside.
Bull****. Backoffice doesn’t cost $40 a month to operate unless include far more functionalities. Even AWeber’s overpriced mailing list / autoresponder only costs $19 a month.
Peter Karroll, really? You had to resort to making fun of my name? Seems you’ve read too much “badass” propaganda.
Amway was sued (when it was still Quixtar) by pushing affiliates to pay for training and sales tools (to the tune of hundreds) and settled by paying tens of millions.
consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/11/amway-subsidiary-settles-lawsuit.html
Your “$40 a month” system is no different than YTBI’s scheme. They charged few hundred to start and $50-60 a month to use their reservation system. Most people never made enough from selling travel to make any money, most came from recruiting.
YTBI eventually went bankrupt after being sued out of multiple states including California.
At least YTBI’s reservation system, Rezconnect, really links up to SAABRE and can book flights. Who knows what the heck your little system does besides your fancy words?
I keep seeing vague references to all sorts of experience associated with IAMCorp (and with Mr. Karroll) but I can find no specifics, either on the company’s website or via Google search.
A conspicuous lack of specifics accompanied by puffery (check and check). Red flag already. CEO shows up to spout what he thinks looks like what a real businessman would type, yep. We’ve seen this before.
Sorry, but it’s pretty obvious what you’re running here, if it isn’t some sort of pyramid scheme which on its face it appears to be, then you have the WORST PR instincts ever.
Rule #1 of not making an ass of yourself in business is: Hire someone to handle your corporate image for you.
People scrutinize your grammar, spelling, etc. any flaw will be revealed. You need someone to audit every tweet, every post made by someone in an official capacity. The CEO doesn’t post.
Next, let’s talk about how crazy it is to graft an MLM comp plan onto a lottery and be surprised when people on this very site are calling it a pyramid scheme. Surely there are business models which don’t have any negativity associated with them which could have been explored?
In any case, no, we are not going to just take your word for anything.
Guys, help me out here. In your opinions is this an absolute stay away from product/opportunity?
Gavin have you even read any of the above comments? Or you just looking for someone to say go for it?
You can’t be thinking this will work at all.
Uh, YEA!
Lotteries are ILLEGAL almost everywhere in the world unless ran by governments.
GS themselves intentionally (or not) spread misinformation about how they are sweepstakes (cost no fee to enter) vs. lottery (cost $$$ to enter).
That should tell you that they are in such a legally gray area they had to “fudge” to justify their own existence, which should tell you it’s EXTREMELY RISKY, even WITHOUT paying any attention to the merits of their own argument, which is itself, quite weak (trying to claim that the monthly fee comes with “free” play tokens, which is itself, a fudge).
How exactly do they arrive to a $Billion dollars evaluation?
So this boils down to a Lucky5 coupled with Jetbox? How original and way before everyone else 😉
The number of people who have invited me to scratchcard opps this month suggests its just another way to exploit the desperate into slavery for the owners benefit.
Also the number of people who have offered me the TV Box opp is about the same for this month as well. Co-incidence? I think not!
The thing that always makes me think twice about these opportunities is the licences required to run this kind of system are just not that easy to obtain, so i’m guessing it will be a pay us and we’ll make up some bs about not being allowed to run this in your country and close down with no refunds (read the terms of liability).
And again this question has not been answered but How can something be free when you are required to pay for it through the purchase of points?
Because the answer is… Hey, look, a puppy! 🙂
I think Peter considers the points to be worthless but really as they were an origin of money he has it backwards.
“You pay for points not for the game!!” The Game is free because the points are worthless 😛
So either he’s trying NOT to see it, i.e. willful ignorance or he knows and is trying to distract people from seeing it, thus “Hey, a puppy”.
There’s some information up on this ANDI Android stick now including a chart where they claim the competing devices don’t have CPUs or GPUs: iam-andi.com/specs/
Since they don’t say what SoC (System on a chip) it is I’m going to have to guess based on experience.
There are 2 SoCs they could be using for 4K video on Android, the Marvell Armada, or Nvidia Tegra X1.
Both SoCs contain the CPU, GPU and support chips (like Wi-Fi). Both SoCs cost less than $50 in bulk. Which really makes me wonder how they’re selling these for $249 when other 4k capable Android boxes/sticks are in the $50-$100 range.
The chart is also very deceptive when it comes to games and software: If you are running Android (It doesn’t even say WHICH version of Android it runs, which makes a difference for games because of the GLES version!) you are going to be running Android games.
You will have exactly the same games available as Amazon’s FireTV. Any Android game can be installed. If they have 1000 games pre-installed, they’re 1000 games from the Google Play store.
This isn’t going to replace an Xbox or Playstation anytime soon, though. NONE of the popular console games are released for Android. That, and using your tablet or phone for a controller is a less-than-ideal control scheme.
It doesn’t even begin to compare to the experience of playing a game on a dedicated controller designed by a company with decades of gaming experience.
There isn’t one thing I can see about ANDI which sets it apart from any other 4k Android TV stick which can run KODI.
If you really want one of these, and I think the usefulness is being exaggerated by IAMcorp affiliates, you’re better off buying one of the cheaper units which isn’t paying for a comp plan with marked-up prices.
The 4K capable ones are worth about $100-125 USD. You can find them on Amazon already with the same specs, and thus same argument applies.
Pay twice the price, then recruit others who are also stupid enough to pay twice the price in order to make money.
i bought a ANDI took 4 months to get it and now that i have it it doest not work.
i have went over and over with tech about it my voltages is to low or high my sygnal is to weak. i have proved all that not to be true.
you dont have a call in help line i have to wait for a call from you.
i gave the andi to my son he is programmer and builds games for different companys he says why dont you just link your phone to your tv. thats all you have dad and the games are all old free games on the internet.
He also said its so limited why dont you get a roko there they can do all this and lots more with no limits plus they work with toll free number to call.
Thats odd Billy.
I bought one and it took 2 days to arrive. I had problems at first because my internet was not fast enough which support had helped me to establish and how to remedy it, so I called my provider as recommended and they showed me how to increase the speed from 2 meg to around 8 meg. It works fine now.
I thought it was a good thing sending in a tech request to the other side of the world and having them call me at an agreed time rather than me ring them and be on hold or possibly incur charges etc.
I’ve been able to watch all the usual channels that I previously had on a paid subscription and a lot more. I can pretty much watch any tv channel in the world.
It’s saved me a lot of money in tv costs and I’ve been able to take it to family and friends houses for us all to watch football matches and films together that previously we would not have been able to do.
What is roko? Do you sell it Billy?
Just looked up Roko and why would you want to use that? On the Andi I have been able to watch every channel on Sky for free including movies, sports etc.
Well, “Andy Smith”, let’s pretend for a moment that you’re not just an affiliate shilling for the company.
A serious answer to your question is that Roku TV is significantly less expensive than the overpriced Andi, and probably a lot less likely to stop working as the services are licensed properly.
KODI is great, but ultimately it’s relying on access to pirated content, which tends to get removed fairly often.
Yes I am an affiliate, but that is irrelevant regarding my response to Billy or anything else really. Yes I may well be biased, but what I have said is true.
I wouldn’t say significantly less expensive if you are going to buy the top Roku option which is the one closest to the Andi although the spec is not a patch on the Andi.
Everything that you seem to have access to on Roku is available via Kodi from what I believe are licensed streams. Yes I agree if you use Kodi to stream content such as pay per view for free, then the streams do get removed often. Just because the Andi is capable of doing that does not make it an inferior piece of equipment.
I just wanted to respond to Billy because his story sounds difficult to understand especially when the games are brand new as well although you have access to thousands of games.
I think his son just looked at some of the preloaded games rather than what it is actually capable of. Just my opinion from my experience of having similar issues at first.
First off, $200 is significantly more expensive than $149, 25% more expensive.
Since there are no independent reviews of Andi, all we have to go on are the few specs IAMCorp has released, so making a direct comparison is a bit hard.
We don’t know, for instance, what the SoC or support chips are, or how much RAM the thing has. What GLES version? What version of Android?
We’re comparing a well-reviewed and trusted brand, Roku, (which can run KODI, btw) aginst a virtual unknown. But is it really an unknown?
Google GamePop. It was a failed gaming stick made by BlueStacks, and it bears more than a passing resemblance to Andi, even down to the curated games it had. It didn’t get reviewed very well.
Oh, and it cost less than Andi, which is strange if they’re the same thing.
ANDi was created from the gamepop. Not the same thing, just the template really and then greatly improved.
So far there are more sales of ANDi than of apples offering. No doubt you will get to see many testimonials soon.
Yeah, see, we’re just supposed to take your word for it that it’s “improved” over the GamePop. Don’t have any actual specs, do you?
Betting you can’t back up the “more sales of ANDi than of Apple’s offering” claim, either. Careful, if you are an affiliate that’s pretty close to enticement.
Testimonials, particularly those from affiliates who have a vested interest in sales of the product, are virtually useless as measures of the product’s quality. Independent reviews by trusted tech review sites using transparent methodology are much more useful. Funny how there are none of those for ANDi.
For that matter, why didn’t the company proudly proclaim that it was based on the GamePop? If you have a brand which had reviews and press, why wouldn’t the company want the free mindshare?
Oh right, because most of the reviews weren’t very good. In fairness, though, that’s because Android media devices and microconsoles are a hot mess.
If I am provided with a review unit I’d be happy to do a breakdown of the hardware and software. It would be educational as you don’t seem to have specs to work with.
No, I’m not interested in the company. Android is my field, I’ve worked on a few of the microconsoles, so I’m well-acquainted with the subject matter. I’m curious to see if my hunch that ANDi is just a white-labeled GamePop is borne out.
Yeah so Andy Smith, I’ve been chuckling about the idea that ANDi which has virtually no marketing could outsell an Apple product which has a multi-million dollar marketing campaign.
Ran the query through Google Trends, which measures search volume. It’s used by marketing companies to determine what people are interested in.
Not looking good for ANDi, mate. google.com/trends/explore#q=IAMCorp%20ANDi%2C%20AppleTV&date=today%2012-m&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT%2B7
It might be you’re parroting what you were told by your upline or in a training call, but bear in mind the danger of using it to try to sell the product. It is not even a grossly exaggerated claim, it is pure fiction to say that ANDi outsold AppleTV.
Exaggerated or made-up claims of value or sales volume are enticement. If you care about ethics or staying out of trouble, don’t go there.
Just had someone post a conference call in one of my facebook groups about their latest launch last month.
Peter Karroll’s name rang a loud bell, when I saw it, and not in the best way.
Our friend Google brought me here.
Why latest launch? Sorry, I thought this company was established in 2004.
BTW this is on their latest website:
That suggests 2002 as a start date and of course now off-shored in British Virgin Islands.
Who though are Wickham Financial Limited (BVI)?
More digging needed.
No idea, how correct this information may be, but shared anyway:
sbo.net/scam-sportsbooks/olympian-group/
According to this there was a security breach and Peter Karroll was CEO at the time, and I quote from the above link:
Then this statement issued by Peter Karroll on why it was closed:
sportsbookreview.com/sports-betting-news/olympian-group-releases-statement-sportsbook-closure-5874/
Makes interesting reading.