ShareNode Review: Nasgo NSG and SNP token securities fraud
ShareNode provides no information on their website about who owns or runs the business.
The ShareNode website domain (“sharenode.com”) was first registered back in 2006.
The domain registration was last updated in August 2018. Stephen Chiang is listed as the owner, through a PO Box address in the US state of California.
Further research reveals Chiang (who also goes by “Steve Chiang” and “Steve Jiang”) and Eric Tippetts cited as a co-founders of Nasgo.
On the ShareNode website the company advises it is “powered by Nasgo”.
A press-release dated October 3rd names James Hardy (right) as co-founder of ShareNode.
Eric Tippets has been doing the rounds of the MLM training circuit for a number of years, primarily through his Rocket Recruitment app.
At least for a number of years, Nasgo appears to be Tippet’s first MLM venture as an executive.
Steve Chiang also appears to have a marketing background but is much more secretive about it.
This is from Chiang’s LinkedIn profile;
The first organization I created quickly became a 1000 member force using each others skill sets to succeed and create the template for future success.
That organization became the fastest growing organization in a US company and with those 1000 employees quickly became the #1 distributorship within a three month period.
Due to the generic nature of the name, I wasn’t able to specifically pin down Chiang’s MLM past.
James Hardy heads up eVantage Financial, some sort of insurance based income opportunity.
Alexa statistics for the eVantage Financial website suggest it has long-since collapsed.
Read on for a full review of the ShareNode MLM opportunity.
ShareNode Products
Nasgo markets NSG tokens, through which the company claims any company can launch a blockchain, digital assets and/or token instantly.
With NASGO, you can tokenize your company with no coding required.
Nasgo packages are pitched at third-party businesses as follows:
Nasgo Tokenize Basic ($995)
- blockchain registration on Nasgo platform
- token issue
- e-commerce platform (Amico) and rewards platform (VAPR)
Nasgo Tokenize Plus ($1495)
Everything in Tokenize Basic plus a published marketing press-release
Nasgo Tokenize Premium ($1995)
Everything in Tokenize Basic and Plus, plus a “preferred listing on ShareNode Business Directory”.
The ShareNode Compensation Plan
ShareNode affiliates receive commissions when they sell Nasgo’s “Tokenize” packages.
Commissions are paid out in SNG, NSG and bitcoin.
As previously mentioned, NSG is a token launched by Nasgo. SNG is a token launched within ShareNode. ShareNode uses bitcoin to pay quoted $USD commissions.
ShareNode pays commissions on NASGO Tokenize packages via a unilevel compensation structure.
A unilevel compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a unilevel team, with every personally recruited affiliate placed directly under them (level 1):
If any level 1 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 2 of the original affiliate’s unilevel team.
If any level 2 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 3 and so on and so forth down a theoretical infinite number of levels.
Using this unilevel compensation structure, ShareNode pays commissions out as follows:
Tokenize Basic
- 1000 SNP and 100 NSG to the affiliate who makes the sale
- the first leader in the downline receives 500 SNP and 50 NSG
- the second leader in the downline receives 250 SNP and 25 NSG
- five Ambassadors in the downline receive 100 SNP to 10 NSG
Tokenize Plus
- $100, 1000 SNP and 100 NSG to the affiliate who makes the sale
- the first leader in the downline receives $50, 500 SNP and 50 NSG
- the second leader in the downline receives $25, 250 SN and 25 NSG
- five Ambassadors in the downline receive $5, 100 SNP and 10 NSG
Tokenize Premium
- $200, 1000 SNP and 100 NSG to the affiliate who makes the sale
- the first leader in the downline receives $100, 500 SNP and 50 NSG
- the second leader in the downline receives $50, 250 SNP and 25 NSG
- five Ambassadors in the downline receive $10, 100 SNP and 10 NSG
Note that ShareNode fails to provide leader and Ambassador qualification criteria in their compensation marketing materials.
Reinvestment Bonus
ShareNode affiliates who reinvest earned commissions into SNP receive the following bonuses:
- if an affiliate opts to reinvest 20% of earned commissions they’ll receive a 10% bonus in SNP tokens
- if an affiliate opts to reinvest 50% of earned commissions they’ll receive a 15% bonus in SNP tokens
- if an affiliate opts to reinvest 20% of earned commissions they’ll receive a 20% bonus in SNP tokens
SNP Investment Returns
After signing up, ShareNode affiliates are able to directly invest in SNP tokens.
ShareNode set the internal value of SNP tokens, with affiliates able to receive a ROI by cashing out through ShareNode’s internal exchange.
Joining ShareNode
ShareNode affiliate membership is tied to investment in a minimum of 1000 SNP tokens.
As per the ShareNode marketing slide on the right, this information is not shared with the public.
As such I was unable to pin down what ShareNode are currently selling 1000 SNP tokens for.
This is not how a legitimate MLM company operates.
Conclusion
Nasgo is basically marketed as a blockchain platform. In a nutshell they want business to pay them thousands of dollars to use their NSG and SNP tokens.
As I write this neither NSG or SNP are publicly tradeable, meaning the value and buying/selling of the tokens is centrally controlled through Nasgo and ShareNode.
As opposed to cryptocurrency, this reduces both tokens to Ponzi points.
ShareNode and Nasgo can set the price of SNP and NSG to whatever they want.
Naturally, to keep their affiliate investors happy, the company is likely to only ever increase the value.
Investment in NSG tokens allows an affiliate to park the points with ShareNode, in exchange for daily returns in SNP.
This is effectively how a ShareNode affiliate grows their investment balance until they want to cash out.
Cashing out sees ShareNode honor ROI withdrawal requests with invested funds.
ROI revenue is represented as coming out of companies who sign up with Nasgo Tokenize Packages, however there’s no provided auditing of this.
Not withstanding if there aren’t any companies signing up, ShareNode represents they’ll still honor ROI withdrawal requests.
If you ever want to sell your SNP tokens, you can. They are
yours to allocate where and when you want to.
Unless they’re withholding that selling is only possible if another SNP bagholder buys your tokens, the ROI withdrawal money has to come from somewhere.
That leaves new investment from affiliates (who invest in NSG, bitcoin or ethereum), closing the Ponzi cycle loop.
I’d also be very surprised if ShareNode weren’t paying referral commissions on SNP investment, but I wasn’t able to confirm if they were.
In any event it should be painfully obvious that NSG and SNP tokens are securities. ShareNode affiliates are investing in SNP on the expectation of a passive return, which is interwoven with SNG tokens.
ShareNode rewarding affiliates with bonus SNP if they opt to reinvest commissions into SNP demonstrates that, despite appearing as two companies, in reality ShareNode and Nasgo are controlled by the same people; namely Stephen Chiang, Eric Tippets and James Hardy.
All three appear to be based out of California in the US. Furthermore ShareNode and Nasgo are being actively promoted across the US.
Nasgo’s marketing material claims the company has ‘a network of 4,000 representatives.‘
Alexa also cites the US as the largest source of traffic to both the Nasgo website (34%). For the ShareNode website the US comes in at second (38%), behind South Korea at 53%.
To operate legally in the US, ShareNode and Nasgo have to register their respective tokens with the SEC.
At the time of publication neither ShareNode, Nasgo, Stephen Chiang, Eric Tippets or James Hardy are registered with the SEC.
This means that on a base level, ShareNode and Nasgo are committing securities fraud.
But Oz, what about all the companies investing in Tokenize packages?
Glad you asked.
NASGO was launched in early 2018 by serial entrepreneurs Eric Tippetts and Stephen Jiang and markets its services to small-to-medium enterprises through a network of 4,000 representatives.
As above, Nasgo was launched in early 2018. Alexa traffic estimates reveal Nasgo on its own flopped:
It wasn’t until ShareNode took off in mid-August that Nasgo’s reversed an otherwise certain collapse.
What we learn from this is outside of SNP investment from ShareNode affiliates (primarily in South Korea and the US), not much is going on inside Nasgo.
Tokenize clients? What clients?
If Nasgo’s instant token platform was viable, there’d have been no need to launch ShareNode to prop it up.
As it stands ShareNode and Nasgo are one securities fraud cease and desist from shutting down.
South Korea has emerged as a hotbed for cryptocurrency fraud over the past few years (MLM and non-MLM). In the US ShareNode and Nasgo are just another fraudulent MLM cryptocurrency opportunity to throw on the pile.
True to form, ShareNode are also gearing up to spread into Vietnam, another notable hotbed for MLM cryptocurrency fraud (BitConeeeeeeeeeeeect!).
The only real money entering the companies is affiliate investment in SNP, which costs ShareNode and Nasgo little to nothing to generate.
The bitcoin and ethereum invested in SNP, sans bitcoin is paid out in commissions, is squirreled away by the three founders.
When ShareNode and Nasgo collapse or are shut down, SNP and NSG tokens evaporate and sorry for your loss.
Alternatively SNP and NSG are dumped on some dodgy public exchanges, although that seems unlikely given how hard Nasgo is pushing its token ecosystem.
Anyway even if does, nobody outside of ShareNode is interested in SNP tokens, so it’s still a sorry for your loss scenario.
The only winners here are those generating SNP and NSG tokens. A few early adopters will cash out through the internal exchange, but ultimately the majority of ShareNode affiliates will take a loss.
Update 29th April 2022 – The SEC filed a ShareNode/Nasgo fraud lawsuit on April 28th.
scammers ryan conley and frank calabro are in this. enough said.
FWIW, this guy appears to be a Taiwanese transplant to China. That would account for the two different spellings for his surname.
There is something in Steve Jiang’s Twitter feed about how they are known as “Amico” in China. But Amico in China is yet something else.
There is so much wrong with your article. You should really be more informed about how this works, what each company does and how the utility tokens work and what they do before you slander companies.
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The NASGO coin goes live on bitforex.com 1-11-2019 NSG.
I sign up to ShareNode and invest in SNP points. I wait for ShareNode to raise the internal SNP value and then I cash out.
Nasgo flopped so it should be obvious where the majority of ROI revenue ShareNode is paying out is coming from.
Anything built around that is irrelevant, as evidenced by you crapping on about “so much wrong” yet failing to point out a single error.
Wonky 6 month old Chinese exchange. And the exit-scam begins…
1st off I am not part of the executive team at Nasgo or sharenode. I do own some NSG and SNP. I do not speak for either company and only for myself.
Wrong: You don’t need to purchase 1000 snp to join sharenode. You can join for free and earn BTC, NSG and SNP by helping to tokenize SME’s
Nasgo is a decentralized blockchain technology. Eric Tippetts and Steven Chang founded it. You can tokenize your brand or business without writing a single line of code. Many already have.
Wrong: Nasgo has not failed and is going strong in Asia and USA.
Look for more Nasgo updates soon. They are very public.
I’ve provided evidence of ShareNode’s own compensation plan material. There might be a free option but it’s pseudo-compliance.
Signing up as an affiliate is tied to the purchase of SNP, as per ShareNode’s own marketing material.
You can check the Alexa charts yourself. Nasgo flopped after it launched in early 2018.
Interest only returned after they attached and launched the ShareNode investment scheme. Investors in the US and South Korea are currently keeping the company afloat.
In both jurisdictions Nasgo and ShareNode are not registered to offer securities and are thus operating illegally.
@Kasey
Amico is the e-commerce platform bundled with the Tokenize packages, not a separate company AFAIK.
Oz I really can’t believe your reviews mate. You are incensed in destroying every MLM or affiliate company that comes onboard. Everything to you is a scam mate.
NASGO is a legal company and the founder was interviewed by Nasdaq and he has appeared in various TV shows and even appeared at the United Nations and even the Jackson Family have a high stake in this as Michael’s nephew has tokenised his record label.
Did you know they are sponsoring the Super Bowl, sponsoring the Sundance Film Award and also will competing with Netflix as they are also streaming movies as well.
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You can’t legitimize securities fraud via association.
I suspect Nasgo might have launched legitimately but as evidenced by their Alexa traffic rating, the concept flopped.
The launch of ShareNode marked Nasgo’s descent into securities fraud. None of the marketing waffle you’ve come up with changes that.
Oz you are (Ozedit: derails removed)
If Nasgo was a scam to you why in the world did you buy those tokens for in the first place? You said you will sell it straight away but I know that will not happened as we don’t know your real name how do we know that you will actually do that?
Oz you are (Ozedit: more derails removed)
What I am or am not doesn’t change the fact Nasgo and ShareNode are committing securities fraud.
Learn to read please.
Sharenode and Nasgo violate a number of Securities Violations, including paying commissions to reps on investments. They clearly have no legal counsel (if they do he/she should be fired).
There token sales meet every definition of a security and they have no registration, provide no qualification, sell to non-accredited investors, no KYC compliance, serve in a broker-dealer capacity on their own tokens as well as others, and pay commissions on the sell of securities to non-licensed agents, and pay commission in a MLM structure.
Their exposure doesn’t end with security violations, the whole thing is a money grab Ponzi scheme targeting U.S. investors (in addition to others in other countries).
The people sticking up for it are in the deal and drinking the juice, and unfortunately appear to be uneducated on security laws and will likely all be the victims at the end of the day.
They sold NASGO tokens based on a $2 Billion valuation (for those that took the time to do the math), which is probably why they then soon after started saying they would be worth a Trillion dollars, joining a short list of companies to achieve that (Amazon, and Apple).
They sold a lot of people on “if they are on TV and stages they must be legit”. The fact is those were all paid events, including the “Nasdaq” video they love to promote.
Many ICO owners paid to be featured on that niche show, that in fine print says “filmed on location at NASDAQ”, it’s not a NASDAQ event.
Oz is correct in that their NASGO ICO was largely a flop, but they were able to sell people on several million dollars of token sales. (evidenced buy their public wallet and token transfers).
When the ICO market dried up, and most avoided due to securities regulations, they went back to what they appear by background to know, and came up with a smoke & mirror MLM model proven that people can sell their friends and family anything, including tokens on the promise they will make money.
There Apps have never worked or been ready or do what they implied they would do. They spend their money on marketing the tokens and “opportunity”, and have found a lot of people willing to drink the juice.
It’s not too hard for anyone educated in business to see what’s going on. It’s a classic Ponzi with no real business model that is sustainable, and they whole thing will collapse as soon as investors start having a hard time pulling money out of the system.
It appears they do have a listing coming up, but do the homework on that exchange. It’s known by everyone in the industry to be a sham bots driven exchange, generating fake trading activity.
It’s illegal model in any country and is also an MLM if you look at details. Perfect match for them.
Word of advice to those in the deal, try pulling your money out a soon as you can. And real money, not these shiny tokens that are worthless but they made billions of to hand out like candy.
Let me get this right the company staged this elaborate hoaks like the NASDAQ interview, the morning TV show and other various TV programs, sponsoring the Super Bowl ( cost millions to run it), sponsoring the Sundance Film Festival, speaking at the United Nations, setting up offices in China and getting well known companies onboard the blockchain. Wow what a way to scam people which will cost millions and millions of dollars.
Ryan you are nothing more than a hater mate and tend to be this guru educated guy but at the end you are going to look like a fool.
Wait and see what happens at the Vietnam event but then Ryan will say it is all smoke and mirrors. You just can’t debate with haters.
Nasgo and ShareNode aren’t comitting securities fraud through PR campaigns, they’re doing so via their business model. Which you continue to ignore.
Again, you can’t legitimize securities fraud via association.
Until Nasgo and ShareNode register their securities offering with the SEC and file evidence of external revenue being used to pay NSG and SNP returns, they’re operating illegally in the US (ditto any other country with securities regulation).
This should have been done before ShareNode was launched mind, not after.
Gullible Vietnamese investors will be presented the Nasgo and ShareNode securities fraud opportunity. What else do you think is going to happen?
BitConneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
@tony, you must have a lot at stake in deal.
Did you notice the Sundance is just a sponsored party, and one that they have “resold” to members to pay for and “share leads”.
You really think they sponsored Super Bowl? Read fine print, another party they will likely offset to members.
Look at member email updates on Sundance and see how they “offered” members a chance to “buy into” event and share leads.
Do you have any experience in these sports events? Anyone can sponsor a party, it’s money only, and in there case money they collect from members to pay.
verifiable proof please. not a scammer ryan conley video either who pulled this same shit lat year with the futurenet scam.
@tony-
I honestly am on your side and not against you. The tough job I have is telling a kid Santa Clause or Easter Bunny doesn’t exist. It sucks, not fun, and not something one wants to point out to someone who has money to lose if exposed.
I didn’t have the time today to explain in detail why Sharenode and NASGO is a total scam, I will tomorrow.
Bitforex 1.5 years old..one of the top ten. Sharenode is a 2 level affiliate program. NASGO is a decentralized platform…not touchable..
it’s tomorrow?
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My advocacy includes this – if you have nothing good to say of others’ business..just don’t say it… and mind your own business.. let us decide for ourselves and be accountable for own choices. We are old enough..we don’t need another naysayer in this world…there’s just too much hate in this world already. Peace, man!
And if you forgot that Nasgo is a DECENTRALIZED/ blockchain platform… who needs a physical address in the cloud, Oz? Are you really in your right frame of mind? you can’t even be consistent.. you contradict your very own “analyses”..!
In all that waffle you failed to address ShareNode and Nasgo offering illegal securities offerings. That should be where your due-diligence begins and ends.
Why, so it’s easier for you to scam people?
Any company that wants to offer securities and operate legally.
Decentralized my ass. All it’ll take is one securities fraud cease and desist and your SNP and NSG points disappear.
Stephen Chiang, Eric Tippets and James Hardy are real people. There’s consequences for real people who break the law.
From the Whois domain registration it shows that Bitforex.com was initially registered on March 26, 2013. From all practical purposes it remained on the shelf until about June of last year, and then the site was updated on December 13, 2018.
According to Alexa, there was zero activity on the website until late June of 2018. It peaked in October 2018 and has remained at or near the peak level since. It is most popular in Japan.
So this story that it is 1.5 years old is a lie. As Oz said it is a six-month old active site.
How about all you supporters start publishing factual truth instead of the made-up BS you all have been fed and regurgitate. You do your due diligence BEFORE you join a program.
The bottom line is they are operating illegally and have since their launch.
And if you believe (Ozedit: derails removed)
And where is your “due diligence” for not citing the actual SEC provision that will warrant a cease and desist?
Do you have any (Ozedit: more derails removed)
It’s called the Securities and Exchange Act. It was enacted in 1933.
Instead of chasing imaginary token riches why don’t you educate yourself.
@DSchwab-
I don’t think anyone is in on here hating. Quite the opposite, trying to point out facts to prevent more people handing over money to a scam.
1. NASGO business model failed because it was all smoke and mirrors anyway and it provides no benefit to companies. Unless said company wants a token to offer their own illegal security, but the market has wisened up and the ICO bubble has already died.
2. Sharenode and NASGO sell illegal securities, by every definition. It’s a security at its basic root by selling something to someone on implication it will go up in value, or provide income, without you having to do anything (passive). They mask this with this delegated proof of stake BS.
3. The daily ROI and stakes token value is a classic Asian MLM scam run for years, likely brought here by this Stephen Chiang guy.
4. On the calls you notice how James Hardy will never address questions to legality or securities? Refers to this “attorney” the have, no legitimate attorney would approve what they are doing (they don’t even have any paperwork of any kind of what you are buying, membership rules, KYC, nothing. This is wrong on all fronts)
5. They claim to run a billion dollar company but operate from their homes and a PO Box.
6. They are listing NSG on the dirtiest of all exchanges, google Bitforex for data on their fake trading volume bots, they payMLM commissions on trades (also illegal), and is run by another Asian scammer with a past.
7. Notice they never deliver anything on time, and after members paid for Sharenode tokens then it was “we can’t release them until VAPR launches, and VAPR can’t launch until we have 10,000 users). Read between the lines, this is all so slow down withdraws to keep more cash coming in than going out.
8. Do the simple math, up until 2 weeks ago they were still trying to get 100 businesses to tokenize, assuming they all paid the max price (which they don’t), that’s only $200k. James Hardy claims regularly the top leaders are making $100k/week. Explain that math to the rest of us not drunk on the juice.
9. Eric says they will be the next Trillion dollar company, behind guess who? Apple and Amazon. Amazing doing this from a PO Box and a couple of MLM junkies working from their houses. Trillion dollar company, how do you believe this??
10. Where do you think your money goes when you pass them money? James Hardy has said dozens of times it goes to Marketing. He’s right, more promotional speaking events and videos to get more people to give them their money. And some goes to paying out withdraws to keep they Ponzi going.
11. Vietnam is South Korea are hot beds for ROI MLM money scams, no surprise they are there. What’s amazing is they had the audacity to run this blatant of a scam in the U.S. targeting U.S. investors while two of the scammers are U.S. citizens.
12. It’s not a matter of if they will go down, it’s how long. It’s the musical chairs game with money, those at the top are cashing out while the newest victims will be left with nothing when the music stops.
lol. you’re not even trying to prove your claim he’s wrong.
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Why did you join Sharenode in the first place? Apparently it looks like you got your facts wrong about the company’s business model.
What I heard is they are heavily counseled by attorneys who advised them on how to operate legitimately.
So, I would strongly suggest that you rewrite the entire article on Sharenodes business model. You’ve got everything wrong, purported pay structure, etc….even the token names wrong.
If not, I bet they’ll be coming after you for libel, Oz. Do your due diligence before spewing out false stuff that will potentially harm many good people. (Ozedit: more derail and conspiracies removed)
Please tell me how to locate this website address?? Can anyone confirm the address is an office or just a PO box? thank you. I believe this company is acting fraudulently!
@Diane
I didn’t. You don’t need to join an MLM company to review one.
Oh really? Prove it then.
For all the whinging not one ShareNode investor has provided an alternative compensation plan.
I didn’t just make up a business model to review. The compensation plan reviewed here is from ShareNode’s own marketing material.
I’ve even provided a screenshot of the source material when discussing the secretive nature of it.
Any remotely competent MLM attorney would have pointed out the glaring securities fraud ShareNode’s launched introduced.
@lulu
ShareNode fails to provide this information to potential investors. All part of the securities fraud package.
And take the risk they’ll have to explain how “legal” their operation is in front of a court ?
The next time that happens will be the first.
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May I ask, have their been any complaints about this company? If not, then id like to ask, why do you take it upon yourself to find blood when there isn’t any?
About Sharenode, simply copy pasting their material doesn’t mean the other stuff you’re purporting about them is accurate. The pictures themselves are accurate but the rest of the stuff you’re claiming are wrong.
For example, you claim that they have their own internal exchange where they can trade/sell their SNPs. That is incorrect.
With Sharenode there is no exchange, period. First of all it’s a utility token and not an investment token.
Please educate us on the difference between the 2 and see which one makes a difference with the SEC. Also, Sharenode members’ earnings are mainly tied to the number of businesses that become tokenized, and from that process other ways of earning are generated.
Aware of the many fraudulent companies that sour the industry, this whole system was well thought out by the founders with the number 1 priority in mind being compliance.
If there is a need to further clarify their business model, please talk to them directly and im sure everything will be more clear.
This isn’t Facebook. If you post offtopic derail waffle that has nothing to do with ShareNode it’s going to either get nuked or edited if there’s enough of the comment to save.
No idea. We review any MLM company we come across with an English compensation plan.
In the instance of scams, typically by the time complaints have been filed they’ve already collapsed. Not much point publishing a review after the fact.
Same source material. From what you’ve posted you have a problem with semantics, as opposed to ShareNode’s actual business model.
Nasgo == ShareNode. You’re going to tell me Nasgo doesn’t operate an internal exchange?
Bullshit. I invest in SNP, ShareNode/Nasgo’s owners arbitrarily increase the value of SNP and I cash out through their internal exchange.
Paying a passive ROI in tokens/points isn’t exempt from securities regulation.
If that were true SNP and NSG would be worth $0. Nasgo flopped, remember?
Furthermore Nasgo and ShareNode can claim what they want. Unless they register with the SEC and provide revenue accounting audits and required disclosures that, if they lie in about they face serious legal repercussions, they are committing securities fraud either way.
And that “system” flopped. So now we have ShareNode which is just another fraudulent MLM crypto securities scheme.
DIANE DOLEMAN: Come on, seriously, the statement you made below, this whole system was well thought out by the founders with the number 1 priority in mind being compliance.
NO, the number 1 priority was scamming the victims, they knew they had to be in compliance with the SEC in the US.
If priority 1 was compliance, they wouldn’t of opened there doors and taken a penny from an investor until they were approved and registered by the SEC. THEY ARE COMMITTING SECURITIES FRAUD…..
For those of you who still believe that NAGGO/SHARENODE tokens are not a security, here is the definition of what the SEC constitutes as a security. It is called the Howey Test and it states, and I quote:
It makes no difference if you call it tokens, a loan, a widget, or whatever else you want to call it . If it meets the above conditions it is a security.
The Howey Test was the result of a 1946 Supreme Court Case involving the Securities and Exchange Commission versus W. J. Howey Company.
The court found that an investment contract is an investment of money or other tangible consideration in a common enterprise with reasonable expectations of profit derived solely from the efforts of others, i.e. investing money into a business where a profit is gained without effort on the investor’s part is a security.
NASGO/SHARENODE clearly meet the definition of a security. To claim otherwise you are being either disingenuous or ignoring reality.
By the way, can’t find NASGO/SHARENODE trading on Bitforex.com. Used the trading symbols NSG and SNP. Wonder why?
I would also be asking how many tokens did the co-founders and President of NASGO/SHARENODE offer for sale on launch. Might be seeing a classic pump and dump situation.
(Ozedit: From Lynn via email – “I just found the announcement on Bitforex that trading will be open on 1/18/19, thus why nothing found.”)
These guys just signed a deal with the goverment of china I dont think the chinese give a damn about your SEC.
Besides the SEC is shutdown because the U.S is broke. World is changing.
Naw dawg, I heard the deal was with the Easter bunny. We riding this lambo to the moon.
(looks like now ShareNode promotion in Asia has begun, here come the bullshit marketing claims…)
MOONAGE; What the hell are you smoking, deal with the government of China, seriously, you need to go see a nut doctor.
@Whip
Is this the same Ryan Conley who ran the OneCoinMillionaire.info website? Today the millionaire website is no longer available. 😀 Why?
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Ryan Conley + Frank Calabro + Moonage + NASGO/Sharenode + Chinese government
All we need now is a fairy godmother and a big bad wolf and we’d have a perfect fairytale.
Hi Oz,
In the spirit of open discussion, the back-and-forth here in the comments section feels like I’m sitting in a crowd watching a special kind of debate.
A really weird debate, in which one of the debate participants is able keep the audience from hearing statements of his opponent that he deems off-topic (or that he doesn’t want the audience to hear, or that, potentially, damage his own argument…?).
Rather than deleting them, why don’t you let them stand with a note that you feel they’re off topic? Or better yet, address them directly? Others might disagree with your opinion that they’re off-topic. This is a strikingly chicken-poop way to have a discussion, it seems.
If you cannot defend your position without selectively silencing rebuttals, your position has no value.
Will this comment survive? I doubt it.
my opinion this biz has a china mans chance if the lisk like blockchain works for real businesses.
@TexasPaul
Because nothing is worse than trying to find information on something and having to sift through waffle garbage to find it.
BehindMLM publishing a review and scammers rushing to defend it by posting anything they can think of to draw attention from a fraudulent business model has been going on since day 1. It’s nothing new, neither is my moderation of it.
As anyone can plainly see, comments that address a published review are mostly left intact and responded to. The derails ShareNode affiliates leave are either removed or edited out.
If you want to make conspiracy theories out of that, awesome. Still doesn’t change the fact that ShareNode and Nasgo are committing securities fraud.
@Oz
One single person deciding what is ‘waffle garbage’ (whatever that is) is exactly the same as one single person deciding what is ‘off-topic’. How does anyone reading this determine whether it’s ‘waffle garbage’ if they don’t ever get to see it? You’re making my point.
I can’t speak to what the SEC constitutes as a security. But I can speak to the fact that you have completely misrepresented the Sharenode compensation structure. There is nothing MLM about it, the diagram you’ve included here is patently false.
Between that misrepresentation and the fact that one side (you) gets to redact whatever element of a rebuttal that he chooses, I can’t see how anyone can take this discussion seriously.
Do what you want, it’s your website, but I wouldn’t blame those minds that aren’t changed by your approach.
Simple, if the comment has nothing to do with the content being commented on it’s off-topic. It’s not rocket science. I’ve run BehindMLM in this manner since day 1.
Don’t like it? Facebook and Twitter spam might be more up your alley.
Well then you have no business trying to argue that ShareNode’s Ponzi points aren’t a security then. Go and do some basic research first.
ShareNode rewards affiliates with tokens over multiple levels. That’s enough to make it an MLM opportunity.
Our review isn’t targeted at scammers already in ShareNode. Nothing short of time in prison will change their behaviour (Frank Calabro Jr. is a good example).
Rather our review is aimed at their unsuspecting victims, who might invest in the belief that ShareNode is a legitimate MLM opportunity.
As evidenced by yourself, there are plethora of potential investors in the MLM cryptocurrency space who are completely ignorant of securities law.
What makes it even more unbelievable is, despite not even understanding securities law and securities themselves, they’ll attempt to convince you their latest scam of the moment isn’t a securities offering.
“Herp derp I know fuck all about securities law and unregistered securities, but you’re totally wrong about ShareNode because you’re removing offtopic derail waffle”.
Case in point.
Anyway, you can either go learn what securities are and why ShareNode and Nasgo are breaking the law. Or continue to whinge about my moderation of offtopic waffle from salty scammers.
You’ve said your piece and I’ve responded. I’ll be marking anything further not directly related to ShareNode and Nasgo from you as spam.
The sad thing is that in a few days another ShareNode investor will rock up and trot out the same spiel. I’ll remove/edit the comment(s) and they’ll retreat to the Telegram/Facebook group circle-jerks “comment got deleted, free speech, MUH DEBATE OUTRAGE!” etc. etc.
Happens in every scam that gains traction.
I’ve done no such thing, please re-read my posts. I have only made the point that the compensation structure is misrepresented in your post. (Ozedit: derail removed)
Yes, two levels. The third level in your diagram is the misrepresentation that makes it look insidious.
(Ozedit: more derails removed)
The diagram is clearly provided as an example of the described unilevel compensation structure, which ShareNode uses to reward affiliates with.
The review also clearly states ShareNode’s use of a unilevel compensation structure is restricted to two levels (more than one level = multilevel = MLM).
Reading anything insidious into ShareNode’s use of compensation levels is on you.
Also note that securities fraud has nothing to do with how many levels a company uses to reward its affiliates.
Anyone in the Sharenode deal get today’s “latest announcements” and promotions?
Flat out money grab at this point. New tokens, discounted promises, still no paperwork on what you are investing in, and now this new claim they are in business with the China government (who by the way bans cryptocurrency).
This appears like the pressure to withdraw the ROI is competing with the cash coming in, so the offers get better, the claims get greater, and the disregard for rules and regs are required to keep the thebtrain on the tracks.
Start googling Sharenode MLM, Sharenode reviews, and you will see people who got sold on this sham by friends and family (the MLM model) and thought they could sell to learn they are in this weird ROI money game.
TEXASPAUL: I’m trying to figure out why your arguing any of the points with ShareNode, they never registered and were approved by the SEC which is a complete violation before accepting any funds from US residents.
Any due diligence and you would clearly know they have an MLM model and fits a Ponzi scheme model….Stop drinking the coolade and do your homework…..
I have done two things, and only two things:
1) I have pointed out that the Sharenode comp plan is misrepresented here
(Ozedit: offtopic derails removed)
False.
Thanks for making it clear you’re more interested in wasting time than educating yourself on securities law. I think we’re done here.
TexasPaul, I take it that reading comprehension is not one of your strongest suits.
Oz has explained it to you. Ryan has explained it to you. I have explained it to you how the tokens are unregistered securities and they are in violation of the SEC by not being registered with them.
They are not even in compliance with the FTC which governs the MLM Industry. by not having any retail customers, meaning people who are not part of NASGO/SHARENODE. This makes them an illegal pyramid scheme.
We can explain it to you but we can’t make you understand it, especially when you don’t want to understand it because you would know you’ve been had. And if I had to guess this isn’t your first rodeo either, and you have been scammed before.
Just an aside, but every time I see Steve Chiang, or as he is known on LinkedIn Steve Jiang picture, he reminds me of the actor in the Terminator Movie.
Can someone explain to me how a 2 Level can be a ponzi?
Ponzi schemes are built on money flowing to the top yet in ShareNode it is literally impossible… It’s 2 levels.
NASGO started almost 6 years ago funded privately with no ICO
ShareNode started because without businesses NASGO has no utilization.
You can join for free, invite one business and be an active sharenode member…
AMICO and VAPR are HUGE development projects of course it takes time and there are setbacks.. It’s not as easy to run a POS blog as yours… It has a bit more lines of code…
NASGO can’t flop if it hasn’t officially launched on an exchange. Bitforex will be the first of many. ShareNode is simply the marketing arm of NASGO. Two different companies working together.
SNP has utilization. It’s not a “hold and wait for the value to go up”. You need SNP to launch ads on other applications like AMIC, VAPR and all other applications that will launch. It is simply a advertising credit.
You spend your life shitting on companies and not doing your research… That is a sad life to live. ShareNode and NASGO are completely different companies. It’s your loss when you see everything that we will be doing.
Using newly invested funds to pay existing investors a ROI makes ShareNode a Ponzi, not how many levels referral commissions are paid out on.
A Ponzi scheme is investment fraud (new money to pay existing investors). You’re describing a pyramid scheme.
ShareNode is that too because it doesn’t have any retail sales within its compensation plan.
Actually it started because Nasgo on its own was a complete flop. Amico AND Vapr are entirely unknown outside of Sharenode.
Sure it can. Exchanges are full of flopped altcoin scams.
I invest in SNP, go masturbate in the corner and eventually withdraw a ROI through the internal exchange. SNP’s value is arbitrarily set by ShareNode, thus the ROI being entirely passive in nature.
Same owners. ShareNode == Nasgo.
Nah. The only sad thing here are the ShareNode scammers desperately avoiding the facts and coming up with excuses for financial fraud.
Always the same story with MLM crypto scams. “We’re gonna.. and then we’re gonna… wait till we…”
Stop marketing a fraudulent business model on bullshit promises and address the present reality: Nasgo and ShareNode are committing securities fraud and running a Ponzi scheme.
you wouldn’t need to be here trying to defend it if it wasn’t the scam that it is.
3 of the biggest scammers in this, conley, calabro, lawson, have all been saying this for years with all the other scams they’ve pushed.
how will this be any different since none of these 3 do ‘legitimate’?
Oz, Nasgo only just got launched (Ozedit: snip, see below)
Nasgo launched in early 2018 and flopped. Know your subject matter if you’re going to discuss it.
When you have an investment to lose if what you have been told by SHARENODE/NASGO members and promoters turns out to be false, you tend to only see one angle to their message and want to believe it.
To those who have been around the block before and seen these scams (in their various forms) it is blatantly obvious from a mile away what is taking place.
First off, research the owners of the company. All three are MLM junkies, even the Hardy guy claims to have built a successful insurance business, but that was also an MLM failure (disguised as a new business model for insurance).
Someone on this thread said (do you really think they got on TV, got on NASDAQ, got on whatever international council, all as this elaborate hoax to scam pepole for money). Answer is. Yes.
Everyone of those engagements, and their others were purchased air time and stage time. Every one of them. There is an industry of businesses, for a profit, that sell a “marketing package” to get you on camera and a stage to promote, while looking like you are as subject matter expert.
This is what they (and others) do to build “content” for Social Proof. And it worked, all of the pitches i see from members is “they are on NASDAQ, Councils, News, yada yada), instead of looking at the core of the business and the people running it. You got sold the smoke and mirrors.
As I have said before, use their own data they share on member calls. They tried to sign up 100 businesses (yet they never proved they did). This would have brought in $100k-$200k in revenue.
From that, in a normal MLM maybe the commission 50% to the field (assuming they had a legal product). That’s 50k. Then there is some profit, in this case they say they share with their investors. So you have $20k maybe.
James Hardy, on more than one occasion confirms top leaders (of the pyramid) earn $100k/month. From where does this money come from?
Where does the money come from for members to earn this daily ROI?
All over the web, their are people bragging about getting their friends to invest $5k, $10k, $25k, $100k in NASGO. Hmmm.
This weeks promotion was Token Offer in packages of $5k to $100k. Hmmmm
See where this is going? The money coming in is not revenue from sale of a product, it’s money coming in from token sales (aka investors money).
Let me ask you guys, what paper work did you get when you invested? From the comments on the web, most don’t even know what they were getting, all they know is they were investing in a company they were told was going to double in weeks, triple in a month, and be worth 100x their investment because it will be a Trillion Dollar company and you got in first.
Their own marketing materials say (image if you were in Amazon, Facebook, Uber, etc etc) the first month they launched, imagine…..
Okay, these companies all had real products, run by real management that were experienced, and did legal fund raising. These jokers are all MLM junkies running this scam from PO boxes and their homes.
Now, let’s look at these latest ridiculous claims. They signed a “deal with the China government”. What does that even mean people? So their Asian lead got on a stage with a pen with some other Asian and put on this big “ceremony signing”.
Now this week, days later, they signed a partnership with the Cambodia government? Anyone see anything odd with the video? Like they were all around this little office with guys obviously not from the government, Eric is wearing a golf shirt, there are no attorneys, not even government flags in this office.
Seriously people, it’s the movie Zoolander where I’m like “Is everyone on CRAZY PILLS here???”
To whoever said “you guys just watch what happens in Vietnam”.
yeah, what we watched is more outlandish claims, more stage signings, and immediately “special offers” on new token sales. If i was an original investor I would be pissed, because what I got then for $100k is half as much or less than what you get today for $100k.
To those of us that know better, we are watching a class Ponzi scheme already cracking at it’s foundation because their withdraw ROI is catching up with the new money coming in from new investors.
Maybe they get a little longer life because they are adding new investors in Vietnam and Cambodia, etc, but these Ponzi always crash.
Maybe Oz can post a link to the Saivian MLM. Same story, different day. Southern California guys starts Ponzi in USA preying on unsophisticated investors. Meets Asian. Takes it to China, makes a lot of money off of Asian MLM investors.
Program crashes. As they all do.
He thinks he got away with it, despite his trail and history from videos and social media posts all over the internet.
Was quiet for a while. Then BAM, government busts him for $165mm Ponzi scam.
The two Americans will go to jail (Tippetts and Hardy) and Stephen disappears in Asia. Thousands of Americans and Asians lose their money.
End of Story.
DANGER illegal ACT LAYS AHEAD: NASGO nor Sharenode DO NOT have an SEC lawyer on the team nor can prove in writing that they are in compliance with the USA LAWS and the Security Exchange Commissions SEC regulations.
They are clearly selling Crypto Currency packages with the promise of the coins going up in value – this makes their offering a Security and they are not registered with SEC NOR CAN sell security to general public, they have masked THEIR OFFERING JUST recently as selling advertising packages AND DIRECTORY LISTING but they are CLEARLY breaking the LAWS.
They are not USA Entities, A REGISTERED company or A corporations.
RED SCAM ALERT: Unlike Bitcoin, the NSG Coins and Sharenode Coins are not Minable Coins, this means NSG and Sharenode are Centralized and controlled by humans/founders and the “101 NODEs operators” in the case of NSG if that is even true.
This model has failed and was used by many ICO Scamming Companies such as Bitconnect, USITech, Bitqyck and many others to sell worthless digital tokens and coins (ShitCoins) to the public, yes these ruthless humans took the unsuspecting/uneducated investors’ money then closed shop and disappeared with millions of dollars of people’s money while laughing all the way to the bank.
So if you want to uncover a scam then follow the money trail, so I analyzed the NSG/Sharnode Tokenize Packages to see who’s pocket the REAL money goes into?
LEGENDS:
SNP Coins/Tokens = Sharenode Crypto Coin – Un-minable Centralized Coin
NSG Coins/Tokens = NASGO Crypto Coin – Un-minable Centralized Coin – 101 NODES HUMAN OPERATORS – MASKED AS BETTER than bitcoin – they actually call the NSG Godaddy of Blockchain 2.0 = WHICH IS Based on Bullshit Claims of Breakthrough Technologies that Don’t exist.
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Tokenize Basic Package – Sales Amount of $995
•1000 SNP Coins =$0 value and 100 NSG Coins@$.50=$50 to the affiliate who makes the sale – Sorry Affiliate You Just Screwed your Friend/Family out of $995.
•the first leader in the downline receives 500 SNP=$0 Value and 50 NSG@$.50=$25 – It takes a sucker to enroll a sucker
•the second leader in the downline receives 250 SNP=$0 Value and 25 NSG@$.50= $12.50 – It takes a sucker to enroll a sucker on 2nd level
•five Ambassadors in the downline receive 100 SNP=$0 Value and 10 NSG@$.50= $5xfive=$25 – It takes five suckers to enroll and screw the whole team of suckers.
SUCKERS involved in selling this Basic Package beware: none of you actually made any real money you just got NSG SHITCOINS that you can’t even off load for 90 days.
Total Payout to the entire team of suckers = $112.50 but NOT in CASH or even in Bitcoin but in NSG coins which at the current time is privately Valued by NASGO and Sharenode at $.50 but if NSG value actually drops to Zero in 90 days “the mandatory hold/lock period for selling any earned NSG” after the NSG gets listed on Bitforex Exchange then No one will make any money other than the Sharenode and the NASGO founders who received the $995 from the sucker number one and paid nothing to the other suckers involved. Now this is a nice SCAM.
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Tokenize PLUS Package – Sales Amount of $1,495
•$100 in NSG or bitcoin,1000 SNP Coins =$0 Value and 100 in NSG Coins at $.50=$50 =$150 Total to the affiliate who makes the sale
•the first leader in the downline receives $50 in NSG or bitcoin, 500 SNP Coins =$0 Value and 50 NSG Coins at $.50=$25 =$75 Total
•the second leader in the downline receives $25 in NSG or bitcoin, 250 SNP Coins =$0 Value and 25 NSG Coins at $.50=$12.50 =$37.50 Total
•five Ambassadors in the downline receive $5 in NSG or bitcoin, 100 SNP Coins =$0 Value and 10 NSG Coins at $.50=$5 =$10 x five =$50 Total
Total Payout to the entire team = $312.50 So the Sharenode and NSG Founders line their pockets with $1,182.50 selling their NSG and NSP Shitcoins.
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Tokenize PREMIUM Package – Sales Amount of $1,995
•$200, 1000 SNP and 100 NSG to the affiliate who makes the sale =$250
•the first leader in the downline receives $100, 500 SNP and 50 NSG = $125
•the second leader in the downline receives $50, 250 SNP and 25 NSG = $62.50
•five Ambassadors in the downline receive $10, 100 SNP and 10 NSG = $15 x five =$75
Total Payout to the entire team of suckers = $512.50 So the Sharenode and NSG Founders line their pockets with $1,482.50 selling their NSG and NSP Shitcoins.
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At the Sharenode event in Vietnam that I attended in Jan 2019 they were also selling other packages as above packages: but bundled with more NSP and NSG coins along with other Shitcoins such as Movie Coins and Jerome Jackson Coins selling them to the Affiliates from $2,500 to $100,000 which is their Black ONYX package.
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Crypto Word Lesson #1
FOMO TACTICS ALERT: DO NOT FALL FOR FOMO – which means Fear Of Missing Out = FOMO
If it sounds too good to be true then it probably is not legal. In the Crypto Currency World ICO scams – FOMO tactic is always used by the presenters and perpetrators in pressuring you to make a decision when you don’t have all the facts. NO TIME to Think or do proper due diligence.
FOMO, uses your fear of missing out brain (the un-logical part of your brain) to close you on scam deals based on emotions of missing out on an opportunity that’s being pitched. TRAIN YOUR BRAIN NOT FALL FOR FOMO TRAPS.
The tell-tell signs of scam trap are simple to detect: if you don’t understand the deal then don’t buy it, if there is inside circle of secrets, or limited time to act and a big push for you to buy right NOW then the sooner you walk away from the trap the better.
In Crypto world of scams usually the offerings/packages are also too complex and not easy to comprehend, and usually have many conditions, such as you must hold coins/contracts for 90 days or longer, recruit others to make money, and these layers are created on purpose to keep your logical mind busy as your emotional mind makes purchase decision – in this way the thieves will rob you clean and have the time to get away with the loot before your logical mind awakes.
These scammers use the same tactics as the street pickpockets use – they use the distraction tactics to get to your wallet.
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Rather interesting. Bitforex said that trading was to start @ 10:00 am (GMT+8) on 1/18, and I just checked entering NSG nothing was found.
James Hardy is a blowhard hypster. On his daily “training” calls, he is fond of using superlatives (NASGO will be the biggest blockchain company in the world!”) and he spends his time haranguing affiliates about buying (ie, “investing in”) tokens and earning more by signing up businesses as clients.
They claim that 100 companies had signed up to be tokenized last summer at their event in Los Angeles, but there are a total of 70 companies on the “Businesses on ShareNode” directory on their member dashboard, and none have been added in over a month.
I just checked and NSG is now trading on Bitforex.com.
As of just a few minutes ago it was showing:
24h Low 0.00002000 24h High 0.00017500
Equal to 0.00014500 BTC
We were told to invest in this. Our shares were never given to us and are still with a broker or individual acting as an agent.
This was said to go public today but still nothing online to see the value of the coin.
The only way to get our money back is to try sell our shares to other individuals as we were advised by said agent.
The affiliate who recruited you dumped their points on you. Now the only way you can cash out is to dump your shares on other unsuspecting victims.
Classic Ponzi.
Curious what price the original investors got into NASGO at?
Seems like early round was $1/token. Later was $0.50/token, seems like their Bitforex listing was a quick dump for owners (most investors if they were lucky enough to actually receive tokens were locked up).
Price likely to go to $0.01, who’s going to buy on open market when the company keeps trying to offer better and better deals to buy direct from them.
Now they are throwing in every coin and the light lamp into the package to get more cash direct.
For those that said “wait and see what happens after Bietnam event”, why don’t you try selling some of your NSG on Bitforex just to see if it’s real.
These MLM amateurs leading this scam don’t know the first thing about how to run a real ICO.
I suspect the only volume sold were their own tokens while they locked up all the investors tokens that gave them money.
And all the poor charities they used for press releases about how they were changing the world and handing out their worthless tokens for “do good”.
Here is the latest trading figure for NSG:
Whether one agrees with the assessment that NSG and SNP are securities, there certainly is concern that the affiliate program is a Ponzi scheme.
There is a comment above that SNP “value” may change according to the whims of those in control of it. Right now, the “price” of SNP has been vastly increased from 10 cents to $1. However, SNP has zero value because it cannot be sold or exchanged for either NSG or BTC (another recent change).
The reason I think the affiliate program may be a Ponzi is because
1. You have to buy SNP to participate (certainly to be “paid” in all the available ways, you must pay to play);
2. What you buy (SNP), however, has no value because you can’t sell it or trade for anything; 3. To make “commissions,” you either recruit others to also buy something worthless or close to worthless (SNP), or you can sell an advertising package to businesses and be “paid” “commissions” primary in SNP.
One of the arguments above is that ShareNode is selling securities Because SNP is tradable internally for NSG. I don’t agree with that, but I have not fully evaluated it.
The irony — if SNP were really held at a “value” of $1 and not allowed to fluctuate and not changed arbitrarily by the company, and if people were allowed to withdraw or trade SNP for a real currency, then I think the affiliate program would be less likely charged as a Ponzi.
Right now, it appears to be illegal, but it easily could be changed to avoid this problem.
If ShareNode wants to survive legal attacks, it definitely has to “sell” affiliates something of real value (it does not do so today, but it is very difficult to assess value because of the lack of specificity and clarity).
It may even need to scrap the affiliate program and focus on the thing that it might be able actually to offer — tokenizing businesses for online advertising. Then, it must pay the salespeople in a real currency with real value (in other words, make SNP worth something or pay in something other than SNP).
Any other portions “paid” to affiliates for referring businesses are so low that there’s no incentive to do the work. Thus ShareNode focuses on the SNP as the commissions, which, again, is worthless.
There are some other things I’d like to know more about if anyone can answer —
1. No one has mentioned Henning Morales. What’s known about him?
2. What is the problem with delegated proof of stake?
3. What facts underlying the comment, “The daily ROI and stakes token value is a classic Asian scam.”
There’s one and only one reason ShareNode/Nasgo is a Ponzi scheme – newly invested funds are used to pay existing investors a ROI. Although from what you’ve said that’s now been canned (???)
That argument wasn’t made in the review. ShareNode’s SNP investment scheme is a security because affiliates are investing on the expectation of a passive return (ShareNode increases the internal exchange SNP value as they see fit).
If the value of SNP was fixed at $1 and SNP not exchangeable for any other type of currency/token, then it wouldn’t be a Ponzi scheme because there’s no investment.
That said ShareNode would have been DOA if that was the case because there’d be no reason to convert USD to SNP. That and ShareNode wouldn’t have any money to pay commissions with if it was a straight $1 –> 1 SNP conversion (assuming they planned on honoring all internal exchange withdrawal requests).
You can’t put the cat back in the bag when it comes to securities fraud. It’s already been committed so the best ShareNode/Nasgo can hope for is to either terminate the opportunity altogether and/or register with the SEC and provide legally required investor/public disclosures.
Neither of these options is a guarantee that the SEC won’t investigate and go after the company for already committed securities fraud.
No idea who that is.
Nothing as far as MLM and securities regulation goes.
Asia (Vietnam, Korea and to a lesser extent Malaysia and Hong Kong) have been hotbeds for MLM crypto Ponzis for a few years now.
None of the Asian countries Nasgo is targeting at the moment (Vietnam/Cambodia) are going to investigate it for securities fraud. That’s why they’re there.
Their mistake (besides the obvious of ripping people off) is they sold this scam on U.S. investors, they can’t undo that now.
The Saivian story a great example, EJ Dalius thought by refunding US investors their money with Asian investors money, would get him off the hook didn’t work.
They committed securities fraud and Ponzi scam in America, that will come back to haunt them when Americans lose money and file complaints. They can’t unwind that, no matter what they make off of Asia and try to pay off American investors.
Securities violations are civil suit by SEC, out right Ponzi scam gets FBI and criminal attention when the fraud is big enough. That will come down to how many people were scammed and howbmuch for.
Time will tell, but if you invest in this or promote thisbyou are in a dangerous territory.
The members who bought into this farce have to be totally disillusioned with the price the “NSG Tokens” are trading at since its launch.
But then this is what you get when you launch on an obscure exchange that has only been in operation for a little over 6 months.
You can bet your bottom dollar that management is trying its best to do damage control with these results.
Anyone have any current numbers of members and companies that bought into this Ponzi?
Great thread, following daily for updates as a friends is high involved in this.
Here is some latest articles.
Looks like they signed with Palau.
businesswire.com/news/home/20190111005071/en/Blockchain-Leader-NASGO-Celebrates-%E2%80%98The-Rise-Hunt
Another FilmCoin article:
businesswire.com/news/home/20190122005975/en/NASGO-Launches-%E2%80%98FilmCoin%E2%80%99-Tokenization-Blockchain-Films-Producers
Those are just press-releases pumped out by the company.
ORLY? So where’s the accompanying announcements from said governments?
I go the cinema to watch a movie. The flying fuck does blockchain have to do with anything?
Talk about an echo-chamber hype machine. You’ll likely be able to plot pumps in NSG each time they issue a press-release.
Gullible Asians love this sort of stuff (uFun Club was another MLM crypto Ponzi that thrived on constant press-releases).
fake ‘press releases’ = always funny.
This is turning into a classic pump and dump scheme.
This might have had some life to it if it had at least come on the exchange at a minimum of 1 cent, but not at thousands of a cent.
You can always tell when a Ponzi is in deep doo-doo, but the members don’t know it. It is when they trot out their fake press releases and oh come and take a look at our shiny new thing we are offering. All designed to keep them from focusing on the failure of all the other former shiny new things.
Beware of the Hidden TRAPs and TRICKS OF SharNODE and NASGO:
When a Business Tokenize with ShareNODE buying 1 Billion Tokens they have to give for FREE 250,000,000 of their tokens to ShareNODE – These tokens will be owned by James and Butch and supposedly by NASGO so these guys then become shareholder of every business that they tokenize through the FREE tokens that they receive. So if the business then put a value of $1 on their tokens then these guys will have $250,000,000 claim against that business. This can also crash that business, by them dumping all that 250,000,000 tokens whenever they want, or demand cash settlement or FREE goods and services from that business to live like Kings… after all they control the lion share of the tokens of that business 250,000,000. WOW!!!! now don’t you or your friends fall in their clever trap.
The sad part is my friend gets invited to these meetings at expensive hotels where Eric presents his progress and makes grand promises and then asks his audience for money in exchange for ‘more of this’ and ‘a bit of that’ and ‘some of this’.
Then as mentioned before, they use this money to charter planes and take vacations to these places and come back telling their gullible investors that this is a game changer and biggest disrupt-er in modern times.
I think they keep their investors locked in by the fake incremental increases of their investments.
I asked my friend to explain this investment and couldn’t get a straight answer, to the point where I felt bad for asking.
Suspension of NSG Withdrawal Announcement:
support.bitforex.com/hc/en-us/articles/360022133212-Suspension-of-NSG-Withdrawal-Announcement
How strange. There’s nothing about a wallet upgrade on the Nasgo website or their social media profiles.
Interesting since they didn’t stop people from putting money in. Oh wait, that’s how Ponzi’s work.
Notice how all the defenders of this have gone MIA. Speaks volumes doesn’t it.
The basic idea is that the bigger a lie you tell, the more likely people will be to believe it, since it’s difficult for the honest and gullible people to accept that someone could tell a lie that huge with a straight face.
1-Ask them where is their working Exchange Wallet? After all they’ve been at this developing for more than FIVE freaking years.
2-Proof of Stake My ASS…Ask them to show you who owns and runs the 101 Staking Nodes of NSG coins? These nodes even if they actually exist are most likely owned by the founders and owners of NASGO.
That means Centralized Coins, and that means NSG coin is not Decentralized so Runaway fast before you get convinced otherwise.
3-Ask them to show you the actual businesses and people transacting or using transactions on Amico marketplace or VAPR? Don’t buy into anything unless they can clearly demonstrate by actual users, otherwise that is coming is the same trap of the ICO Scam road-map.
4-Ask them to show you their Development TEAM – Each developer should have a public profile on Linkedin.com and Facebook and/or other platforms.
5-Ask them to show you that they have a written approval from SEC and SEC blessing for taking money from USA citizens for worthless Sharenode tokens?
6-Ask them why they have a 90 day lock on cashing the NSG tokens you can ear/receive? The only real reason is for them to prolong their Ponzi SCAM.
7-Ask them to show you their company/ies NASGO and Sharenode registration certificates, Licenses, Insurance, real business location and addresses?
8-Ask them to show you their banking information, in what country, what bank?
9-Ask them to show you one business that has successfully tokenized and is using NSG/SNP tokens in their marketing their business?
10-Ask them why they take 250,000,000 tokens from each business that they tokenize? What’s the real reason, why do they need this kickback?
11-Ask them about their refund policy?
12-Ask them why they must mask selling their worthless shitcoins NSP and NSG token packages as some sort of Directory listing or Advertising package offer?
13-Ask them to give all the answers to the above questions in writing on the letterhead of the company/ies signed by the owners/founders.
14-Ask them where is Sharenode worthless/Shitcoins SNP coins will be traded, on what public exchange, at what value – after all you will be receiving them as pay as you deceiving your friends and family, you can’t even sell/cash them without dumping them on another sucker you help to entrap?
15-Ask them if their God is Money or their GOD is GOD?
Tru
The basic idea is that the bigger a lie you tell, the more likely people will be to believe it, since it’s difficult for the honest and gullible people to accept that someone could tell a lie that huge with a straight face.
@TRU hit the nail on the head. It’s comical to watch their “breaking news announcements”. Partnerships with governments, SpaceX, United Nations, Larry King. Shit, I think Eric Tippetts last week in his “an entrepreneurs life” walk on the beach cameo said he partnered with Amazon.
So we’ve heard they will be worth $1 Trillion dollars, They are next Apple, next Microsoft, next Amazon, and the GoDaddy of Blockchain.
All of this with no management team other than 3 MLM junkies. No office. No IT staff (that they can show).
Anyone else notice that Eric Tippetts writes the social media posts in 3rd person like someone staff is writing them. Anyone else find that a bit psychotic ?
Anyone else find it odd that you just send Crypto, PayPal, or wire for token purchases to James Hardy? And no paperwork. Who does this, I seriously am blown away an adult over 18 years of age has fallen for this shit show.
Can any member show they sold their NSG tokens on the exchange? That exchange is known for shady trading, including fake volumes, pump and dumps, and lock-ups so that only they and the promoters can sell out their tokens while members who bought them directly from the company (some paying $1/NSG) are locked up and can only watch this spectacle.
Every member who promotes this and gets paid commission for selling their friends and family securities are breaking the law. Reality is only the ring leaders will likely go to jail, but who wants to make money selling their family and friends a Ponzi scam and watch them lose their money.
For the rest of us this is like watching a train wreck play out on social media, I assume after Chiang and Tippetts tokenize Hollywood this weekend @ Sundance they will tokenize the Border Wall before moving onto partnerships with NATO & the Pope. I’m waiting any day for Eric Tippetts to announce he’s been nominated for the Nobel Prize, but he’ll announce it in his 3rd person voice of their Social Media accounts he runs from his phone.
I have a question hope someone can answer: Can I tokenize my business directly with NASGO without joining ShareNode? If so what is the path and costs?
I am asking this questions because when I visit NASGO.com there is no mention of ShareNode but when I visit ShareNode.com I see it is powered by NASGO.
This isn’t a NASGO support group.
You need to put your question to the organizers of the securities fraud themselves
@Tru,
Perhaps you can email the SEC?
Can anyone at Sharenode or NASGO actually explain how that indie film “launched on this breakthrough Film Coin blockchain platform”?
The producer said he wrote and filmed this like a year ago, Film Coin launched two weeks before Sundance with a website and logo.
Anyone seen a white paper on Film Coin technology? Can anyone explain how it’s changing the movie industry?
Another shiny object to distract away from all the other shiny objects they used to take in money this past year yet have zero substance or tech behind them.
Here is the NSG trading stats for today:
24h Low 0.00016559
24h High 0.00021928
24h Volume 832. BTC
Please list all the Billion Dollar companies that have shares trading in this range please.
Rather interesting trading figures today for NSG. Now they are showing trading in USD, where before they were showing the value to Bitcoin. Still the trading is down almost 8% for today:
Does anyone know if that Amico app they said was going to be ready for download at the Dolby event last November is available today?
I couldn’t seem to find it in App Store and download link from website didn’t work.
Ryan you have been vocally critical of Nasgo Sharenodes and since day one you have been calling this a scam.
Let’s look at it in its prospective. The founders have been working on this for 6 or 7 years to get it launched. They have been doing the promotional rounds like getting on TV and the famous NASDAQ interview and according to you they paid those interviews.
They even went to the Sundance film festival to launch a new blockchain movie and were interviewed by a TV show about the movie, they even did a deal with China ( according to you is fake) and host a big event in Vietnam and even have the Jackson Family involved in this.
They are now sponsoring the Super Bowl and a basketball celebrity tournament and they have even launched the NSG token in Bitforex which is actually trading.
Ryan if all this is a scam according to you then it must be a scam that cost them millions and millions of dollars.
Would you mind explaining this to all the members in this forum.
1. How much money is used to promote a scam is irrelevant. A business model defines an MLM scam.
2. It hasn’t cost the owners of Nasgo/ShareNode anything. The recipient of the majority of funds invested into an MLM Ponzi scheme is always the owner(s) running it.
@Tony-
I assume you’re in your 20’s and haven’t seen your fair share of various investment scams or you are one of the promoters who know you are making money off your family and friends who took your advice and passed their money over which you shared in.
I’ve made plenty of comments above, If you don’t see how many things are illegal and just plain don’t make any sense I don’t know how else to explain to you and I don’t draw pictures very well.
I explained above the Sundance you say they sponsored they turned around and collected the money from members to “share leads”. The Super Bowl “sponsorship” was the same, an obscure party they passed the buck off to members while they promote themselves on social media attending.
If you think they are “the” Super Bowl sponsor, now has me second guessing if you are from Cambodia and have never seen the event to know that such a sponsorship doesn’t exist.
There is a link to Jaafar Jackson, nephew of (the) Michael Jackson in that his upcoming album will be “tokenized” by “Do Something Athletic”, which will use NASGO blockchain technology.
It’s basically a fancy fan-reward system. That’s not a “link to Jackson Family”.
it’s just another reward/membership tracking tech, albeit “now with ‘blockchain'”.
@Tony-
I’m surprised being “the” Super Bowl sponsor they didn’t want a commercial or name on any official NFL Super Bowl Ads.
They did have a cool logo display at a private event, which is what I said are a dime a dozen at these events (NBA All Star Weekend, Super Bowl, Sundance, SXSW).
Look up party sponsorships, they are $7500-$25,000. Not Millions as they lead you to believe. And even the small amount to sponsor a party they still passed that cost on to members, was in the emails leading up to the events.
Whoever chipped in got to share the investors leads captured at event.
Well, the Super Bowl is now history and you can imagine my shock and surprise that NASGO/ShareNODE was not mentioned as a “SPONSOR” of the Super Bowl.
Heck, they didn’t even run ONE COMMERCIAL. Rather odd don’t you think Tony after all the hype and your claim that they were “SPONSORING THE SUPER BOWL.”
Now tell me again how many millions of dollars they spent on SPONSORING THE SUPER BOWL?
You are about to learn a very expensive lesson. You had better hope that if law enforcement shuts this down you are not one of them they go after to charge in this Ponzi.
There was some footage of their VIP booth on Facebook.
There weren’t any celebs, it looked like just affiliates the company had comped in. Nobody seemed to be using VAPR.
Yooo, Oz
Hit me up, i wanna talk to you further about your findings. Ive been fortunate to be up close with sharenode and have confronted them with some red flags ive noticed.
They def didnt like what i found. Youre not wrong in this article.. theyre shaddy AF. Hmu at (removed)
Contact button is on the top right of every page.
Anyone having issues with accessing Bitforex.com website besides me?
It makes no difference which web service (IE or Google) I use, it shows the link is connected but all I can see is a blank white page with only the little light orange box on the lower left hand side of the home page, but the link for it does not work.
Wanted to check the current trading activity for NSG.
Working here. NSG is down 20%+ in the last 24 hrs.
Currently at 0.00012165 BTC
First attempt gave me the blank page with the orange feedback icon.
Second attempt gave me the regular page, but with a “Happy Lunar New Year” message preventing access to the page proper.
Third attempt gave me the normal page view
Likewise regarding 1st & 3rd attempt earlier today.
Kirs . . . I would love to know what red flags you told the StealNode, I mean ShareNode, people about.
Many things wrong in the article and from some from the positive responders but I did not have time to read everything.
Article says no ambassador criteria. WRONG.
This has been in the back office since 11-8 2018
ShareNode – Nasgo did not sponsor the Super Bowl. Management never said this, only affiliates wrongly relayed this event. They sponsored a charity event before the SB. They also paid a fee for retired NFL players to another event.
NSG has been listed on BitForex since Jan 11th and you should have know that was scheduled to launch at the time you wrote the article.
There was never a deal done with the China government. There was a deal done with a Chinese sponsored company. Very important in itself but not the gov’t. Again someone incorrectly relaying info.
SNP price has always been in the back office since the beginning. It moved up to $1.00 and stayed there for a long time. Currently no plans for it to go up. It is an advertising credit to be used within the community and will not be on an exchange.
To date you have always been able to join for free and never required to buy any SNP or NSG. You can refer businesses and get qualified for all rewards without ever spending a dime.
There was a 90 day lock on selling bonus NSG but now it is 10% a week. Really no different than some companies with stock restrictions. Holders with bonus shares can’t sell all the first day or it would tank the price. Also earned NSG can be sold immediately.
Some aspects just starting. Amico and VAPR just launched and in beta. The first company showing how VAPR worked was at the Sundance Film Festival. This was the first case use.
More companies are regularly being added to the back office as they tokenize and supply required company information.
Yeah, except Nasgo was launched in early 2018. It flopped and didn’t go anywhere until they attached the ShareNode Ponzi scheme.
Well, the pump is on for NSG. Here is the latest trading figures:
+ 6.70% 0.00014171 BTC
24h Low: 0.00012750
24h High: 0.00014406
24h Volume: 46. BTC
It was up 13.3% yesterday, so they are definitely pumping the price. Would be interesting to see how much of this was real trading vs bot trading; as well as how many tokens the owners have dumped on the exchange to sell.
We stated:
Hiding it in the backoffice != putting it in your compensation plan material for the public.
Did Nasgo/ShareNode take action against any of these affiliates? Of course not. They were too busy planning how to spend affiliate money.
That “someone” would be Nasgo corporate:
Compliance with securities law requires disclosure to the SEC and general public.
There’s a big difference, because companies with stock restrictions have registered with the SEC to operate legally.
What happened to the celebs that were supposed to be showing off a VAPR enhanced Super Bowl? Instead it turned into “thanks for your money, look how we’re spending it!” kick in the nuts.
uh, we all know that. the rubes you’re trying to rope in though……….
@Steve-
Would we be so lucky this was Steve Chiang, or Steve Jiang, or Steve Chang, or whatever Alias..
Eric Tippetts has hours of video all over social media with numerous false statements, the China government partnership was one of many.
If you say it’s now false statements spread by your members, you are wrong. Eric and James Hardy train them on these statements, and it’s used by members to sell gullible investors on this is the next “Apple Stock”.
It’s worked, all your gullible members sell this as “they are on TV, they have partnerships with governments, they were on NASDAQ, they sponsored Super Bowl, how could they be fake….”
You guys have so much paper and video trail you may as well live up your final time as high profile as you can.
If this is Steve Chiang, my guess you are a flight away from bouncing to Asia and leaving the Nasgonation out to hang. ✌️
Great job Ryan at exposing the Nasgo/Sharenode fraudulent scam.
Whether people like to hear it or not, the fraudulent activity going on there could not be more clear, and it’s sad that people won’t listen to facts and reason. You’ve been warned about Nasgo and it’s your job to understand it.
The law is like gravity, it does not care if you understand or believe it or not, it will have its effect on you regardless of your belief or understanding. Something that the founders of Nasgo and Sharenode have not learned YET.
Remember, there really is a sucker born every minute and con artists know that. So don’t be a sucker.
If you still are unsure whether there is shady activity going on here, check out the shady pasts and links below of James Hardy and Butch Joseph Chelliah.
Keep in mind this is just what we could find in a simple Google search which usually means there is more fraud, that they have not been caught for YET.
James Hardy judgement: unicourt.com/case/ca-sd-boi-carlsbad-llc-vs-evantage-financial-a-california-limited-liability-company-324010
Butch Joseph Chelliah is a managing partner for sharenode and has been banned by FINRA (Financial Industry Regulatory Authority) for life. brokercheck.finra.org/individual/summary/4385058
Thanks Ryan and Bill for the details. Thought ’bout Nasgo & Sharenode for a while. Friends have joined & recommended I join too. Haven’t. If it sounds too good…it usually is.
Wasn’t sure about company or people in charge. Appreciate your posts &the education.
Well, NSG continues its downward slide. Latest trading results:
-6.19% 0.00011772 BTC
24h Low: 0.00011610
24h High: 0.00012575
24h Volume: 457. BTC
This should keep your mouths shut.
How do you like these apples: cryptopotato.com/sec-clarifies-tokens-sold-in-a-functioning-network-are-not-securities-what-does-this-mean-for-the-crypto-regulations/
1. This is a transcript of a speech given by one SEC Commissioner. It’s not a statement by the SEC.
2. The Howey Test is nothing new, it’s been around since 1946. It’s been cited in pretty much every MLM related case brought about by the SEC related to securities.
3. An MLM company hawking an altcoin they made up is always going to be marketed on potential lambo returns. That’s an investment contract and under the Howey Test, every MLM cryptocurrency company by design is offering a security.
4. Personally I like my apples untainted by dumb as dogshit MLM crypto scammers. Thanks for asking.
@Steve-
In case you were still standing by your comment that “management” didn’t say you guys signed a deal with the Chinese government, have you watched this video?
youtu.be/FdHtD_xwyxA
If the SEC or FBI ever did a YouTube search on Nasgo or Sharenode they would have a field day for content.
@Meg-
Oz responded respectfully. I think it’s people like you that should be held accountable as much as Tippetts, Hardy, and whatever Steve’s last name is. Trying to educate you on laws is futile, and if we believed you cared what you were selling was BS we would be as ignorant as the people you sell this scam to.
I’ll be so bold as to make a prediction here:
1.) Nasgo/Sharenode will get some traction in Asia, but not great, because believe it or not Asians have seen this scam many time before (Americans are less aware).
2.) Even though this is a total scam, the payout comp plan is not attractive enough for the Asia market, so it won’t get enough traction there to dig out of the hole you guys have created in U.S.
3.) The excuses of delayed app launches, the delay in withdraws, the delays with everything else, at some point with get all of these gullible investors and members to start asking questions that Hardy and Tippetts don’t want to answer
4.) More people will try to start withdrawing or asking for refunds, which has already started and will escalate
5.) Steve Jiang/Chang/Chiang won’t come back to U.S.
6.) The stories and promises will get even more outrageous in a final money grab attempt (which I can’t wait to see what they can possibly say that’s more insane than they already have).
7.) Then all their social media will go offline, which will be a clue they got a subpoena from SEC
8.) Then months will go by with no word, but a bunch of complaints online
9.) Then there will be an SEC and/or DOJ announcement of a case against founders
10.) All you promoters move on to next scam, another day and another dollar earned from your friends and family who don’t know any better.
Well, the pump is back trying to push the price up before the next dump. Here’s the latest trading data:
+35.46% 0.00015900 BTC
24h Low: 0.00010932
24h High: 0.00015970
24h Volume: 1,208 BTC
You’re going to do your head in tracking crypto charts Lynn. They’re so open to manipulation it’s not funny (pump and dump, not the charts themselves).
Nasgo is not an MLM company as it is an affiliate program as they have said this repeatedly. The big difference in MLM and affiliate is the structure and payment levels.
Typically affiliates only have 1 or 2 levels that company compensates the individual. A MLM however, has multiple levels for compensation for the individual and their entire downline.
Amazon (Ozedit: isn’t an MLM company and is thus entirely irrelevant. Derail waffle removed.)
You can call Nasgo/ShareNode whatever you want. MLM compensation plan = MLM company
ProTip: Two levels counts as multiple levels.
Did you actually READ the article you cited?
It says that tokens, when used NOT as standin for money, are not securities. it doesn’t say anything else.
Indeed, In July 2017, SEC came down hard on DAO tokens sold as securities (and raised over 150 million in 2016). In fact, SEC chairman told the US Senate in Feb 2017 “I believe every ICO I’ve seen is a security”.
The position has not changed since Howey Test in 1946. If you present it as an investment, then it’s a security.
I agree with K. Chang, every once in a while Hardy or Tippetts will try to drop in the conversation there is utility use for the tokens, which maybe some day they will develop one, but I would say 99% of those who invested did so on the premise this is the next Apple or Amazon stock and all the propaganda is based on passive ROI, which in every sense of the use is for getting a return on your money (investment).
Their current promotion is selling $1k, $5k, $10k, $25k, and up to $100k “token offerings”, there is no utility to them other than buy low and get ROI and the value will be worth (as Tippetts has said on video, 1,600% more by 2020).
It’s a great video of him explaining this funny math of how they will be worth $1 Trillion dollars, which includes them on-boarding 10,000 companies per day 🙂
Well, today you could see the bots in actin doing trading. The price shot straight up over 33% and then has fluctuated within a very thin margin since. The pump is on.
I don’t think that Meg read the article or any of the other members for that matter.
This is just what all the members were told to do by management to contradict all the negative information against the company. You can bet she isn’t the only one making this claim in other blogs and forums.
This is what Ponzi pimps do to try and deflect facts about their program as lies. To the faithful it works and they just regurgitate it to the masses as factual to the uninformed public.
Then management prays it will work and take the heat off, at least for a little while keeping those in the program from getting out and seeing the light. I’ve seen this countless hundreds of times over the years in every Ponzi.
One thing is certain, if she did read it she didn’t understand it.
Meg got a bit nasty so I had to nuke her last comment. Started crapping on about political ideologies and other nonsense.
Maybe this has already been answered or is assumed knowledge but why has this not been shut down yet by authorities?
Because regulation is reactive and often times painfully slow.
I was told that I could submit my website and business to nasgo and they would give me a plan to tokenize my business.
It has been 2 months and I have heard nothing.
I have asked to see exactly how they tokenize it and how that would help me and my biz, and how it looks for the other companies who have done it. Nothing Nada Zilch!!!
Scam scam scam!!!! Stay away.
Well, after the big straight run-up in price of over 33% it has now dropped over 15%. Here are the latest trading figures:
NASGO/SHARENODE portrays itself as a Billion Dollar company and is now trading its crypt-currency on the Bitforex.com exchange.
One would think that a Billion Dollar Company that has their crypto-currency trading on an exchange would appear on the Crypto-Currency Market Capitalization website, but alas that is not the case with NSG.
Also noticed that all the defenders of NASGO/SHARENODE have suddenly gone MIA. Wonder if it had to do with their claim they were “sponsoring” the Super Bowl and didn’t. They said they had a deal with China, but it exists only on paper of NASGO’s press release, and all the other claims they have made that have been a lie.
This seems to be running out of gas already. They are having a hard time of obtaining new members it seems. There are going to be a lot of people who will lose a lot of money in this Ponzi.
As stated before, I agree it was misstated in the PR that they were sponsoring the SB.
All our calls way before the event said over and over, SN is not sponsoring the SB, they sponsored 2 events in Atlanta for charity.
They did not have a deal with China but a Chinese company sponsored by the Chinese gov’t. I watched the signing.
Cali Tucker and now Craig Boyd plus Jaafer Jackson are all being tokenized to use our services. It is starting to gain momentum.
NO. Not misstated. These snake oil salesman were called out on a ridiculous lie.
??? That sounds even more ridiculous than the Chinese gov’t. Congrats….
You can keep embarrassing yourself or just get w the fact that its just another “program” that will have a shelf life limited to the caliber of Ponzi Pimp they get involved.
Surely a misstatement would have been clarified by an official statement from Nasgo/ShareNode clarifying they have no agreement with any government and didn’t sponsor the Super Bowl?
*crickets*
Who is this Steve guy?
You say we, then them, then we. Are you part of management or a promoter?
I posted a YouTube video link earlier in thread of Eric Tippetts stating for a crowd you guys were raising money from you were the super bowl sponsor and you just signed a deal with Chinese government.
This is stage you put out a correction of a false statement and offer recision for investors who want money back based on investing under false pretense.
But it’s hard to do that in a Ponzi because part of their funds were used to pay off other investors and the rest probably paid for the super bowl suite for friends.
Can’t back track statements used to take people’s money.
Here are the trading figures for NSG:
-7.79%: 0.00010502 BTC
24h Low: 0.00010103
24h High: 0.00011297
24h Volume: 300. BTC
I don’t keep up with Frank Calabro all that often but I am in his fb group. I just checked to see what he’s been saying about NSG and he doesn’t seem to be talking about it.
Instead he seems to be pimping Hashing Ad Space which unless I’m very wrong looks like an old style ad credit ponzi except it pays off in a pump and dump altcoin called Asimi.
Good old Frank, always keeps one foot in the stirrup.
I just sold some of the NSG I got from Sharenode yesterday. If it was a scam I don’t think they’d pay out anybody.
It could still be a scam but the fact that I sold like 100$ worth of NSG is a pretty goods sign. They’re supposed to launch the app the 29th or some shit.
Hopefully daddy will buy himself a new car. Awhoooooooooo
They’re not. You sold your NSG to another bagholder. The money you invest goes into the Eric Tippers holiday slush fund.
Why do you think every MLM underbelly admin has rushed to launch a shitcoin over the past few years?
You give them real money, they give you a worthless token with a bunch of bullshit promises. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Nice story, but let’s cut to the chase. How many tokens did you sell to receive $100? How much did you pay for those tokens you sold? While you may have received $100 for the tokens you sold does not mean that you made any money on the sale.
I look forward to your answering my questions. But hey it sure did sound good didn’t it.
Looks like the end is near. All the writing on the wall, and they flipped in Asia which was their only chance to make this last longer.
This Nasgive BS is final sympathy string pulled by Tippetts.
I notice Stephen Chiang is MIA and Tippetts and Hardy’s worlds about to implode.
NASGO Steve on to next Scam and The Tokenizer Tippetts is done after a few more weeks of desperate posts.
To “Steve H” FEB 21 POST – if you just do a basic google search for Cali Tucker Net worth and now Craig Boyd Net worth, and Jaafer Jackson Net worth you see that they are all near ZERO even Jaafer Jackson father Net worth is only around $4 million; So they are all really nobody to count as somebody at this stage of their careers.
So these suckered artist/singers being tokenized means nothing as an endorsement to someone that does basic check on Sharenode scam MLM coins and NASGO scam shitcoins.
You guys have missed so many promises, so many release dates, and distributed so much miss information that no one in their right mind should believe in you, I think you don’t even believe in your own bullshit anymore.
You can believe this that NO reputable music industry agent would allow their singer client to be involved with Ponzi Scams such as Sharenode and NASGO.
So it does not matter if they “All being tokenized to use our services”. As you starting to gain momentum “with nobodies!!!!”
I wrote this with no disrespect to the singers as I like and respect them all.
I believe if they were not struggling financially they would not put their careers and reputation at risk with SCAM entities such as Sharenode and NASGO.
Tru
Tippetts seems like a one man show now. Any members hear from Steve Chiang lately?
for a “billion dollar, soon to be trillion dollar” company it’s interesting the founder Tippetts is the sales person, ambassador, social media poster, lead tech, and PR.
The Mexico “Charity” cruise looked like a bust and SXSW started off with their star singer singing to an empty bar.
If you are still promoting this thing your money is going to Tippetts to fill his Bentley with gas.
Would love to hear from all those posting early on how this is the next Apple stock.
I don’t know of many new companies that start off with big celebs or fortune 500 companies using their services.
VAPR app, Steve C’s project, just launched it’s second version with lots more features to come.
I was at the charity event in Cabo. About 85 of us went to the orphanage. Donated materials, NSG and our time with projects and interacting with the children.
Hi Steve H-
Name one big celebrity or Fortune 500 company affiliated with NASGO….
That’s because they have an actual product or service that retail customers want to actually buy. Only scams have to try and bullshit their way through via association.
And as Ryan said, name one fortune 500 company using Nasgo? Not that it matters (legitimacy by association doesn’t work), but we already know Nasgo’s celebs are Z list.
I was agreeing with you. There is not any big celebs or big companies associated yet. Big companies are not even being targeted as clients.
Every interview says the same thing. SME’s are being contacted first.
Many of the big companies are already building their own blockchain programs. Small ones can’t afford what other tokenization services charge.
Shut your mouth Steve this whole shit is fucked.
Sharenode went MIA along with James hardy. We haven’t had a conference call in a month mate. Doesn’t that ring any bells???
We got scammed, get over it maybe hit the strip club. The coin is up at 67 cents today which is weird as shite.
Daddy is back from sharenode HQ. Turns out this piece of shite James hardy couldn’t even afford an office. They’re running you out of your money out of a fucking storage unit. The scenes are quite mad if you ask me.
My dad is The Who put me onto this scam. He even made me scam my hometown friends for fucks sake hahA.
e cashed out on those idiots who believed it was the next apple. Cheers to NASGO, you made daddy rich.
As for Steve Chang, we literally only hired him to be the face of NASGO. He’s a paid actor, he doesn’t know shite about crypto.
Changy just looked like the perfect Asian figurehead and you guys fell for it. Idiots, all of you.
Im off this hoe, need snort some lines off Janet Jackson’s ass (Shouts out Jaafar Jackson).
Someone asked about Henning Morales. PLEASE google him! He is a career scammer.
Look up eWorld. Scammed so many people out of their life savings.
This is his latest affiliation and his latest round of victims. Please put the word out. He is a serial scammer with no heart.
Like I said google him and you will hear nothing but sad stories of people who lost everything. Not sure how he gets away with it.
He’s been arrested, faced charges and somehow manages to get out of things. He is being watched but he uses his victims money to hire lawyers to do his dirty work.
He claims to be an author, producer, life coach on and on. Nothing but a cheat and like was mentioned above he pumps time and money into promos and events that keep hopeful investors stringing along.
He is also attaching himself to young hopefuls in Hollywood making them believe he will help make them famous. He has no conscience.
If this comment saves one person from this monster, it will have been worth it. If my link doesn’t work you can put Henning Morales and any number of words from ShareNode to dirty merchants and he will pop up.
This is a promo where he says he is going to appear at an event promoting ShareNode, Nasgo, Amico and Vapr. youtu.be/YSCsgSRgQ2c
Sadly I have a good friend who is in this and he said there are 4 conference calls a day. So who’s right?
What’s worse he knows what I do for a living and he still joined. Show’s you how good they are lying to get people to join.
Actual conference calls or four “get your gullible recruit saps to listen” pre-recorded calls?
Hi Lynn
What is it you do for a living since guy mentioned?
Ryan
Ryan, contact Oz for my email address, as I give him permission to release it to you.
My friend got back to me and said ALL calls are live calls. No recorded calls.
MoneyTeam, 1-3 live calls every day except Sunday.
None of the recorded junk calls being claimed as live calls I get from other companies several times a week.
Alert!!!! NASGO and Sharenode are abandoned projects….Their sites are up but their Apps-software/platform/ecosystems are all none functional. If you are pro these companies you need to get your head out of the sand.
Stats:
1-As of 3/18/2019 supposedly after 5 years of being in business there are only 161 businesses signed up under Sharenode, dashboard.
2-On their most recent conference calls they claim paying out millions of dollars in commissions to their affiliates, how is that possible when there are only 161 businesses listed/tokenized at a cost of $995 to $1,995.
So they must be selling their shitcoins to the uneducated, unsuspecting public. With all that supposedly legal monies received then where are their TAX returns as proof of income.
2-When you visit business.sharenode.com/ you only can find two businesses listed. Other searches for the businesses will find you nothing or dead pages.
3-NASGO coins can not be mined, that means the coins are centralized (controlled by humans) and you can not Stake in and create a Master Node the links to download their API is all end up in dead pages as are no activities on their development team site on GitHub.com since mid 2018.
4-The only thing that really works is for Sharenode to take yours/your friends hard earned money. They can give you bunch of empty promises of whats coming.
So think a bit for a moment if they have not yet created what they originally envisioned for 5 years being in business then they will not create anything substantial in the next 5 years either. What they are a Ponzi scam.
5-You can’t download any of their key promised iOS/Andriod apps, they do not exist.
6-They are not a legal entity in the USA, nor a company, just a P.O. Box and two websites.
7-They have no clearance from USA or SEC to operate legally in the USA taking peoples money and issuing them shitcoins, in the name of Advertising credit.
8-The fact is crypto market is currently too small, with less than 24 million Bitcoin Wallets reported after 10 years and 90% of those wallets hold zero to less than $100 in Bitcoin as compared to Fiat Currency market with 7.5 billion users.
So how could Sharenode Ecosystem Amico be a place that people find/buy/sell/trade with each other and 161 tokenized businesses currently listed is a joke.
Tru
NASGO: Listen to this bullshit interview pumping up this crap of a company and it’s owner:
youtu.be/2yJ8R_97IvY
Interesting FYI: NASGO volume on CoinGecko Exchange is a bit shy of $10M p/day, with a 60% price increase in last 30 days (60 days %increase is much less dramatic, but still).
So, for some reason there’s a lot of market movement. I didn’t inspect the volume any more closely than what I just reported.
Source: coingecko.com/en/coins/nasgo
Pls my lovely people is their anyway the owners of this blog can create a very trust worthy decentralized platform for investors I personaly will invest.
If this happens, if Nasgo platform is a scam I think they must be running a very big open scam they can’t get away with is too open dudes no hiding place on this.
No. Not interested.
Yet here we are. The thing about MLM scams is they have to be open. One way or another they need a constant stream of new money to survive.
I give this about another 4-6 weeks before it implodes on itself.
The only way it happens sooner is if law enforcement shuts them down. They are running out of gas.
Tru,
Steady growth of blockchain wallets. No slowdown yet.
statista.com/statistics/647374/worldwide-blockchain-wallet-users/
ShareNode is building a separate business directory with 131 listings now. The back office is 164 today. Backlog getting them in the back office.
The VAPR app is available on android and on your pc. Still in beta for sure, people adding demo PINS checking It out. pwa.vapr.app
They have never said IOS was available, even in Jan they were shooting for the end of March.
Yes, most commissions have been from sales of SNP advertising credits.
I don’t think there are any blockchain technology companies that haven’t taken years to develop.
So what have they been doing the last 7 years? They claimed this is what they have been doing for the past 7 years so this should have been rolled out immediately.
Funny how this story keeps changing isn’t it.
Then I think the owners of this blog should learn to direct project instead of killing people dreams and ideas.
contact Nasgo platform tell them how to improve their platform to look legal thank u. (Ozedit: derails removed)
Yeah sorry, I’m not into the running scams game. Do you run around telling newspapers to do whatever it is the subjects of their reporting do better too?
“Hay Mr. New York Times, instead of reporting on the criminals caught why don’t you go and rob a bank properly to show them how it’s done?
Or give the robbers tips on how to do it better for next time.”
BehindMLM reports on MLM news and publishes reviews. We don’t provide consulting to MLM companies.
The issues with ShareNode and Nasgo are detailed in the review you’re commenting on. Maybe get out of the entitled twat mindset and take some responsibility for your actions.
You invested in a scam. It’s not up to randoms over the internet to fix your fuck ups.
Has any Sharenode Member sold any NSG tokens on Bitforex exchange. I’m talking upload tokens, sell order, sold, cash in wallet.
I’m not talking sold $100 tokens sold back to company or a friend.
Even if they have, the buyer(s) will still be ShareNode/Nasgo affiliates.
There’s zero interest in NSG outside of ShareNode/Nasgo itself.
I am still waiting for someone in NASGO/SHARENODE to provide a real address for the company instead of a P.O. Box.
They claim they have an attorney advising them, but the law firm or attorney must have gotten their law degree from Hook’em, Wink’em, Cheat’em and Nod.
They operate in California but neither company name is registered with the California Secretary of State.
All one has to do is register the names with the Secretary of State and they can shut this down, unless of course those currently running the company buy the names from the registered owner. Real smart attorney advice there isn’t it.
But I especially love the comment that we are to help them out and explain to them how to operate correctly.
Hmm, let’s see….they took 7 years to develop the business. They used the brightest and smartest minds to develop their program, and they need outside help? Seriously?
If they do, then you are admitting that the two running this are totally incompetent and clueless. Not exactly the image they have portrayed now is it.
Keep the excuses coming, you are just proving our points on how this is a Ponzi.
How much do you want to bet that if you could do a search in China of Steve Chiang/Jiang his name would pop up regarding several Ponzi’s he was involved in over there?
I find it interesting that he has not been seen for more than a couple of weeks now or made any presentations during this time.
Wonder if he is still in the US or he has fled the coop for China?
I have never heard 7 years, heard 5 years many times. Nasgo officially launched a year ago March 18th. ShareNode was not developed until sometime after the launch in the summer. ShareNode in beta as the Apps are in development. Launch is mid summer on the timeline.
Lynn, maybe you can help with your “search” comments. I can’t find anything about Steve C/J They showed a pic of a team of developers a couple days ago from China.
Steve-
I would ask same question, whether it’s 5 years or 7, and as Tippetts said Millions spent on development, plus another year since ICO. What’s have they been doing all those years to yet have a finished product of anything.
That’s NASGO BS blockchain and sidechain is a $6k development cost by any number of a dozen Shenzhen China hack developers.
It has ZERO value other than push token sales and log record.
So now Sharenode is in “Pre-Launch” status, that’s a new explanation that started last week. Another MLM tactic to sell “get in Pre-Launch”, whatever that even means?
Stephen or Eric on a Live Call with someone with half a brain to expose their sorry asses is something they would never do. They hide behind 1-way conference calls with people and chat questions locked down so others can’t see them exposed for what they are – MLM scammers with zero business experience or brains.
I seriously don’t think Eric even knows what the hell the words out of his mouth even mean.
I’ve said this before and he still slips up and exposes himself. Eric is the social media poster for brand and himself, he talks in 3rd person about himself when he updates NASGO social media. That takes a special kind of crazy.
He seriously brags about himself like some NASGO in-house staff member is writing it yet he’s writing it himself. Nut case…..
32565 B. Golden Lantern, Laguna Beach, CA 92629
#173, that address is to a private mailbox rental service.
aimmailcenters.com/private-mailboxes/dana-point/19
Lynn was asking for a physical address that isn’t just a mailbox.
@Eltra Rahim,
That is the address of an AIM maildrop and forwarding center. Good luck anyone trying to find anyone from Sharenode via the address
From what I understand it’s a private mailbox center a few blocks from Eric Tippetts house.
Now this is interesting. On the Sharenode website they announce their upcoming Launch Event.
Now what is interesting to me is that this is a tech company and they can’t even get their page views correct. Yet they want people to believe they are bringing their wonderful technology to the business community and the masses.
I am glad they have taken 7 or 5 years (depending on who is telling the story) to develop NASGO/SHARENODE.
Uh, what? Please tell me their not holding an event to “celebrate” a new Facebook group or something…
ShareNode itself launched ~6 months ago. Bit late for marketing hype isn’t it?
Not only that, but you have to pay for the privilege of attending this event, and pricey too. Here’s the cost breakdown:
They are really hurting for cash. Must be hurting to pay their hosting fees. Talk about chutzpah.
They hold a launch party that they want you to attend and then charge you for the privilege of attending without knowing what it is you are buying.
I don’t think lunch is included, but then since their event detail page is missing can’t say for sure.
Ohhhhh it’s not so much a ShareNode launch party as just an excuse to flog some more SNP points.
An “investment party” if you will.
For all of you who believe that NASGO/SHARENODE is the real deal and not a scam or Ponzi, please provide your answers to these questions please:
1. Name me just one other “Billion Dollar” company that uses a P.O. Box as their sole business address;
2. Name me just one other “Billion Dollar” company that does not have its name registered with the Secretary of State Office in the state where they are headquartered and do business;
3. Name me just one other “Billion Dollar” company that has no listed bank account but has their members send their money to the president of the company when joining the program or buying their products;
4. Name me just one other “Billion Dollar” company that charges potential customers a program and product fee to participate in their launch party.
Actually I want you to name me just one legal company in answer to my questions. Remember, NASGO/SHARENODE is the one who claimed they are a “Billion Dollar” company, not me.
I look forward to your answers.
If you are still thinking about putting money into Sharenode/NASGO or suckering your friends and family in doing so, just do a Google search for Sharenode headquarters address.
Yes this bullshit billion dollar company HQ address is a freakin $30 per month P.O. Box at a mailbox center; simply copy/past this address 32565 B. Golden Lantern, Laguna Beach, CA 92629.
Google will shows you a picture of a back-alley parking lot. Really???? is this the Billion Dollar Company you are putting your hard earned money into? Wake the hell up!!!!
You have been warned by many on here so you can’t say you did not know when you lose your money.
Its peoples greed that takes away their common sense, and scammers running Sharenode and NASGO count and capitalize on peoples greed. They lie and promote using the Fear Of Missing Out “FOMO” tactic which hypnotizes otherwise rational people in becoming irrational and invest in their scam.
Remember the bigger the LIEsssss the more believable it becomes. Tru
Friend of mine who has been egging me on to become a part just recently cashed out 10k profits from 4 months of investing.
There was some concerns on this thread about whether you can actually withdraw your own money or profits, so here is the feedback.
How much of that was recruitment commissions that had nothing to do with cashing out NSG/SNP tokens?
I wonder, how long before the SEC gets wind of these guys and shuts them down?
I also fail to see the value of tokens. What am I missing?
Please encourage and invite your friend to come and post here explaining what his profits were from, and while he is at it, maybe he can answer my simple questions since it seems no-one in NASGO/SHARENODE seems to be able to answer.
I thought by now I would have multiple posts from people in this answering them, but alas not one. Your friend would get to be the first.
By the way, they have to pay the early people in to make this Ponzi look real. It would be a pathetic and obvious Ponzi if they didn’t to everyone immediately. Of course early people in are going to be paid, but from what is the real issue. Looking forward to your friend posting and telling their story.
Yes, it is all scam. They are not paying out what they have promised before. Always they try to find reasons why they don’t pay.
I am just creating a new website with all the evidences against ShareNode. I will show all the emails we got – especially from Samuel Stebbins. I am sure they are a lot of victims already.
Ben-
A website is a great idea. You can put NASGO in URL name for better SEO. Ex NASGOComplaints.com, or Nasgoscam.com
I believe you can also do a plug-in for the site where people can log their experience or complaint and sign. An example of one for a WordPress site is wordpress.org/plugins/speakout/
No substance from their management team ever to address members questions or concerns, just more “Tippetts World Speaking Tour” date announcements.
Tippetts and Hardy have said this term multiple times, which shows their arrogance.
“It’s all about Social Proof”. They have been right, if they speak at an event and put it on Social Media, people believe they are experts.
Reality is Tippetts couldn’t talk his way out of a Blockchain Paper Bag if his life depended on it, he doesn’t know what he’s talking about other than dropping a few buzz words here and there.
He can’t even explain what decentralization is to understand NASGO is not decentralized. Village Idiot.
Anyone heard how the ticket sales are going for the big launch party called Age of Influence Kick-off on Apr 8?
Is it still on? Does anyone know if it is at the Anaheim, CA Convention Center?
They have a picture of it on their website, so figured it is where they are holding it, but then with a PO Box for a company address, the picture could just be for show and the event is somewhere else.
I’d love to be a fly on the wall for this event just to see how many people coughed up the dough to attend VS how many they claim were there.
I had some concerns with a few of the earlier postings. I had to laugh at a few of these most recent postings.
The event is April 13th at the Anaheim Convention Center. Tickets are $100 at the door. I have 2 discount codes if you want to see what has been achieved and who has recently been added to the ecosystem.
(email removed)
This is not the place to market securities fraud.
So Steve, why isn’t this information available on their website promoting this event? The information I posted about the costs came directly from their website promoting this event. So how did I get it wrong? I admit I did get the date wrong in my last post, but it is the only thing I got wrong.
I was invited to attend but I have a prior commitment that prevents me from going. I would have really loved to have gone, but I’m sure they will be glad I’m not there.
But I do have a few questions for you Steve: How many tickets have they sold at each level? How many people are they expecting to attend? What is the real corporate address? Who do they bank with and the location? I look forward to your answers.
It was in Hall or room 210 A B C D . I looked it up once but not sure of the capacity and was said it was full.
I am not in CA so I didn’t attend. You had to get tickets from one of the promoters to get the promo code. I had those codes.
They have office space because you can see it from the live calls.
Thanks for that information.
So what is the address of this office space, since it exists from the live calls?
Hmm, seems NSG has restricted withdrawals again from the back office. Now I wonder why they had to do that? (It’s a rhetorical question). Seems things are not all warm and fuzzy, nor goodness and light in NSG land.
This just after their big Age of Influence Kick-off on Thursday. Guess it didn’t do well as they had hoped.
100% withdrawals on all NSG earned through commissions. Just restricted on NSG given as bonuses.
Company is changing the call service to handle much larger audiences.
ShareNode tv will launch this summer on Roko.
As warm and fuzzy as it has been in a long time. Still much to be done.
More smoke and mirrors and utter BS, and the gullible are eating it up. If you are going to tell a lie, make it a whopper. They’re lucky they can pay their hosting bill.
And they are still selling securities and are not licensed to do so with the SEC, nor are any of them licensed to sell securities with FINRA.
Also still no real physical office address other than their PO Box, and this is a billion dollar company? Too funny!
Lynn you realize BITCOIN isn’t even registered right?
ShareNode is startup why is it a surprise they are a PO box? They launched less then a year ago…
Having aspirations to go big isn’t a scam…
It’s not a security if you stay in Crypto. The moment they collect fiat it becomes a security.
Bitcoin isn’t an MLM company offering a passive investment opportunity. Why would it be registered?
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuullshit. You show me where in the Securities and Exchange Act it provides an exemption for cryptocurrency.
The Howey Test covers any offered investment, no matter the medium.
Roger, you do realize that SHARENODE OR NASGO are registered with the California Secretary of State’s office as required by law right? Or are you going to claim that since they are startup and therefore don’t need to register with the California Secretary of State?
Name me one Billion Dollar company (their claim) that uses a P.O. Box as their corporate address startup or mature company. I’m sure all Billion Dollar companies have money sent to their President, not to a bank account when people joined their program.
You can explain this right?
My God none of yous knows a dam thing about business, kinda sad considering yous are telling this story as if you are some type of Harvard grad in cracking down on scamsology. Roger is right, they don’t need to register NSG as a business because its definitely not a business.
Sharenode on the other hand is a business that needs to be registered. As for the P.O box situation, not every startup has to come out the Silicon Valley gates of hell. There’s no book on how to run the perfect business mate.
Sharenode is shit at running their business tho, idk if I could even call it that. No marketing, no mission, no actual use for NSG. If they wanted to they could really just use their whole core compentece without the NSG. hopefully this doesn’t get shutdown tho, daddy owns some NSG ;).
Uh, Nasgo token != Nasgo the company. Albeit NSG has no purpose outside of Nasgo the company.
Nasgo the company is very much a business. And if we’re being honest, let’s cut the crap;
Nasgo == ShareNode. Same company run by the same people (lulz shell companies and puppet management lulz).
Its people like you who confuse people mate. In what world does a crypto HAVE to be business? (Ozedit: snip, see below)
Nobody said it did. Chalk that up to your attempt to confuse people.
Nasgo is a business seeking to profit from their NSG platform. It is run by executive staff and has a corporate presence (albeit a PO Box) in the US.
The only confusion here is the blending of Nasgo the company (a business) with NSG the token come exit-scam cryptocurrency on your part.
it has to at least exist.
Chapo,
You are not going to try and claim that because NASGO/SHARENODE are on the Internet that they don’t have to be registered with the authorities are you?
But your claim that NASGO is not a business and therefore does not have to be registered, and also claiming in the same breath I don’t know anything about business shows how little you know about what is or isn’t a business. But thanks for the laugh.
Earth calling Steve Chiang. Where art thou Steve?
Now you don’t suppose he is out of the country fearing that if he stayed he would get arrested do you? He has been MIA for months now.
Real smart move Steve leaving Eric and James left holding the bag for this Ponzi. Wonder how Eric and James feel about being tossed under the bus by Steve to take the fall when this goes down?
Get ready for all the screaming and hollering when the websites are suddenly gone.
Major news from Sharenode Email May 3rd, Important
Wow!!!! according to the email the shitcoin NASGO ship seems to have hit the iceberg… if you have a NSG wallet you can’t use it to transfer in/out NSG coins until Q3… in other words its FREAKING FROZEN….
These scammers follow all the other shitcoin scammers footsteps before them who have done the same exact act.
First they freeze withdrawal, then they say we got served by SEC and must leave US and Canada then they close their offices/P.O Boxes in the USA/Canada, but keep their website up for a while feeding people several bulshit announcements, then after a few month they shut everything down and run away with everyone’s money as they blame SEC.
This Bullshit paragraph was hidden two third of a way down on that long email:
Tru
Don’t suppose I could get a copy of that email? I also hadn’t heard anything about the SEC.
Nasgo collapsing seems newsworthy.
@Tru
I also received an email on May 3rd but made no mention of any SEM matters.
Mentioned withdraw to personal wallet limits on NSG which I imagine is trying to control (slow down) withdrawals.
Their web traffic and logins to back office down 75% since January.
Tru, nobody likes to see things get frozen but I understand the action. NSG is being bonused at 1 million tokens a week to all the holders of SNP for about 1 year, 30 weeks about to go.
Since utilization won’t start for 1-2 months and probably not larger scale until fall is most likely the reasoning otherwise the price would be driven down by one sided selling.
You do realize that the majority of trades on Bitforex are being done by bots and not real trades, right?
The token value and volume is at least 80% fake. All you have to do is look at the straight up trading and then the straight line down to see the bots in action.
But maybe you can answer why Steve has been MIA for about 2 months now, he is no longer at events or on the calls, or if he still is in the U.S. Rather odd isn’t it for the co-founder to be MIA and is the brains behind this Ponzi.
Mate you are so quick to put words in others mouth. An educated person would read this and have a laugh.
Do not try to patronize me as if I do not know what Im talking about because I clearly never said anything about a business not needing to be registered if its on the internet, like my God where do yous come up with these things.
Like I said in ALL my posts, ShareNode is probably a scam, doesn’t mean I didn’t get in at 10 cents an SNP ;). Nasgo is a crypto currency thats free to be traded globally. Does Bitcoin (Ozedit: derail attempt removed)
Now with all of this said, im not siding with Sharenode or Nasgo so do not be quick to shut down others opinions that go against your “Godly” theories. (Ozedit: more derail waffle removed)
As has already been pointed out to you, bitcoin isn’t an MLM company offering a passive investment opportunity.
Nasgo == ShareNode.
NASGO has announced a brand partnership between NASGO and DollarStore during the “Age of Influence Tour Kick Off” event at the Anaheim Convention Center.
Furthermore, DollarStore will be running on the NASGO BlockChain.
Small steps.
No mate, thats where yous are wrong. Sharenode is not Nasgo. They are two different things. I think thats where yous get confused.
Sharenode is the MLM. Nasgo is the crypto currency that is available to buy globally.
Chapo,
I did not say that “you said it,” I said, “You are not going to “TRY” and claim….” Talk about putting words in others mouths. An educated person would have read what I said and got it with no explanation needed.
You said that: “they don’t need to register NSG as a business because it’s definitely not a business,” and that’s what I was referencing. And that is total BS. So who is the uneducated one?
But whutabut Nasgo taking over the music industry with z-grade artists? Or revolutionizing sport viewing starting with the SuperBowl? Or laundering money through dodgy Cambodian casinos?
Yawn.
When I say same thing I mean it’s all part of the same scam.
Nasgo tried to launch its own token blockchain. It flopped, hard.
So they came up with the ShareNode Ponzi scheme and to date that’s the only thing keeping Nasgo alive.
This makes Nasgo and ShareNode ripe for regulatory shutdown. They’re aware of this, hence we have continued attempts to demonstrate external revenue with signed agreements.
Doesn’t change the fact that, no matter how they’ve set it up, ShareNode == Nasgo.
NSG is the cryptocurrency shitcoin if you want to get technical. Not my fault they gave their shitcoin and company the same name.
Wonder how “excited” DollarStore was to hear the news that the company announced it was suspending NSG withdrawals until at least Q3 2019. With NASGO tanking and SHARENODE on the decline it remains to be seen how much longer they can keep this charade going.
Odd that no-one from NASGO/SHARENODE has answered the questions where Steve had disappeared to, does the company have a areal office address instead of a P.O. Box, or isn’t registered with the state of California as a business entity.
Mate when did I ever mention anything about not needing to be a registered company if yous are on the internet, I neverrrrr mentioned anything close to that.
Please point out where I said anything near that, make me laugh a little mate.
If that up there was your reference to my “trying” then my God I fear for your life. Tell me, who runs (Ozedit: derails removed)
Eric Tippets and Steve Chiang run Nasgo, the business. Who does or doesn’t run whatever else is irrelevant.
Oh good grief. I NEVER SAID YOU SAID IT. Try reading what I wrote 10 times and maybe, just maybe you will get it. I can explain it to you but I can’t make you understand it.
I don’t know if you are just trying to play dumb to defend this Ponzi or you truly don’t understand what I said. That’s your problem not mine. Everyone else got it except you.
You were the one who claimed that NASGO was not a business, not me. I merely pointed out that was total BS.
Amidst all the toing and froing, it would be easy to overlook the fact NASGO/Sharenode is a rapidly failing scheme being promoted by notorious ponzi pimps while selling unregistered securities and whose Alexa figures have fallen even further from where they sat in the graphic Oz posted above to a ranking of 666,331
While Mr “Chapo” may well feel he has “won” the argument, prudent potential investors would be well advised to stay right away.
Mate this is what you said and I quote “I did not say that “you said it,” I said, “You are not going to “TRY” and claim….”
Where did I ever “TRY”. Like come on mate you are taking the piss with that one. (Ozedit: derails removed)
Wrong again mate. They are “founders” just like BTC has Satoshi and how LTC has Charlie lee, founders are not CEO’s. (Ozedit: the word “CEO” doesn’t appear anywhere on this page until your comment. Derails removed.)
The difference being Tippets and Chiang are running an attached business sharing the same Nasgo name.
Look, I know you’re playing stupid to stretch this out but it’s getting boring.
Here’s documentation from Nasgo as a business that even you can understand:
That’s from Nasgo’s own Terms and Conditions: nasgo.com/v/terms-conditions/
Seeing as this has reached “the sky is blue, look up”, “nuh-uh!”, I’ll be marking any further claims Nasgo is not a business as spam.
@lynndel ….just so you can move on, there is a corporate office in Laguna Niguel. I work there, along with many others. I assure you I don’t work at the PO Box.
And the address is? Executive Office suite that is rented along with other companies? Do they allow visitors?
Though we don’t allow unsolicited visitors, we’ve had tons who have been invited. They come and check in with the receptionist. Then they have the choice of waiting there in the lobby, or in the upstairs or downstairs lounge areas.
If you’d like to set up an appointment to ‘visit’ please contact our concierge manager with the purpose of your visit and try scheduling a date.
@360-
For a company that puts on investment seminars and takes people’s money what reason do you give for not posting on your website where people can find your place of business?
And don’t say you don’t do investment seminars, Tippetts once again has videos online of him pitching investments.
Still ducking answering where this “office” is located. How am I supposed to find it if I don’t know where the office is? Also who is the concierge manager and how does one contact this manager? Of is this a deep dark secret too?
Based off your comments, I thought for sure you’ve done in depth research on the company. If you had, then you’d know there’s an entire team that works in the corporate office, give us a call.
Anyhow, continue on with your ranting but the whole office address issue is getting tired.
And you are still ducking answering the questions I asked. Too difficult for you to answer? So are you Eric or James?
360 says:
“there’s an entire team that works in the corporate office”
Is this office located in “Never Never Land” or is it part of “Hogwart’s School of Magic”?
You claim there is an office, staff, phone number,etc and its all legit…yet it’s this huge secret & you can’t act w a degree of professionalism and answer a simple question?
Hilarious in a sad way.
Nickel and dime scammers like 360 always good for a quick laugh but why not just answer Lynndel Edgington questions or stop embarrassing yourself & throwing tantrums.
You know how it goes when someone is trying to defend the indefensible:
“Attack is the best form of defence”
What’s the address and contact number to reach the concierge?
Since you work there it should not be difficult for you to provide this information.
You mean this one… the virtual office one from their website..?
You are full of $#1t dude… But then again we got your whif from miles away.
Hahahahaha this guy is proper banter. Obviously there is no office HQ mate. Tippets is in Hong Kong right now sipping his Peña Colada with yous money.
Im telling yous, you all got scammed and there is literally nothing yous could do about it. (Ozedit: derails removed)
Chapo,
None of the regular anti-scam posters in these comments(including Lyndell) have a dime in ShareNode/Nasgo.
As an aside Chapo:
Unless you are doing a caricature of a cheezy, 3d world imbecile in these comments…any talk of others embarrassing themselves coming from you is quite laughable.
You have set the embarrassment bar very, very high.
I am not James or Eric.
Contact the concierge manager: 949-269-7200
Thanks for the clarification that you are not James or Eric. As for the phone number, see that wasn’t so hard was it.
Rather odd that you said the office is located in Laguna Niguel but the phone is a landline in San Clemente. Now you know why the address was requested, which you still have not provided.
You do realize that it is not too comforting and highly suspicious for a company keeping their physical location a secret, right?
For a company that claims to be revolutionizing how businesses do business in the future they want to keep their headquarters location a deep, dark secret.
Mate, yous could tell yourself that all you want. The only thing that dragged yous in here has to be your share in sharenode, like myself.
The difference is yous lives depended on this scam to make you rich. I throw a couple G’s in here only because I got in a a really good time.
Of course it was a scam, doesn’t mean I couldn’t make a couple bucks off it. The risk factor was second to none.
(Ozedit: offtopic derails removed)
Lynn, Pretty simple to look up.
Laguna Niguel area code
949
Laguna Niguel, California – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laguna_Niguel,_California
Lynn, not sure what you searched for the phone.
Laguna Niguel area codes
Laguna Niguel area code
949
Lynn, Tried a couple times to copy and paste. Search Laguna Niguel area codes and the first thing that comes up is 949
Lynn, just searched and it showed 949 as the L N area code
The 949 area code covers half of Orange County, so of course Laguna Niguel would be in the 949 area code. Just as Lake Forest, Mission Viejo, Irvine, San Juan Capistrano, Aliso Viejo, Laguna Hills, Orange, San Clemente, Dana Pont, Laguna Beach, Laguna Woods, Trabuco Canyon you get the picture.
Put in the whole number and you will find it is a landline in San Clemente, not Laguna Niguel. It’s why I posted the information. Do a reverse phone lookup and you get the same info.
HAS to be ?
Does it really ?
With due diligence skills like that, it’s no wonder you’re here defending the indefensible.
Hi all,
as this thread is one of the only places that seems unmoderated (i.e. not all critical views get deleted), I’d like to point to a rather unnerving circumstance when it comes to NASGO.
They held a token sale in eary 2018 about which they are suspiciously quiet about. It was done at go.nasgo.com/home/sale/, where I invested some coins.
To this day, I see my NASGO balance there but when I put a NASGO wallet as a whithdrawl address, nothing happens at all.
Is it safe to assume that even the early beginnings of NASGO were a total scam?
Menitoning the token sale that was held in the telegram groups leads to an almost instant deletion of the message.
Anyody here who can chime in on this?
Nasgo’s initial launch was a flop. They only started making money when they began committing securities fraud through ShareNode.
Sounds like they’re not interested unless you’re part of the ShareNode crowd.
To cash out your NSG…..You have to open Nasgo wallet and transfer your NSG bonus or any NSG you earn … deposit it to BitForex ..to withdraw trade your NSG for bitcoin and you can go to bitcoin ATM machine and withdraw….withdrawal from ATM will take about 20 mins.
To their question though, can passive investors in the NASGO ICO liquidate on Bitforex or can you only withdraw active (commissions) NSG earned through Sharenode Comp Plan?
Even that seems confusing as the withdraw requirements constantly change.
Seems like there is a growing crowd that Eric Tippetts refers to as “the haters” that don’t have a platform to air their concerns.
Seems 360 has left the building. I was going to have him give me his name so I could set an appointment with him to come to the offices and chat, but can’t call the concierge manager to schedule the appointment when I don’t know your name.
I doubt if the concierge manager would have a clue who 360 is, unless of course you are the concierge manager.
And we still don’t have an address and the phone number is a San Clemente landline not a landline in Laguna Niguel.
Now you don’t suppose they don’t want me coming to visit since I exposed the location of the landline phone do you?
You can deposit from Nasgo wallet to Bitforex all NSG.
You can’t withdraw from Nasgo.
You have to Open an account with bitforex.
Send your deposit from Nasgo wallet to Bitforex.
Then trade NSG to BTC then withdraw your BTC from any BTC ATM.
I’m sorry but you guys are not listenging to what I am saying. My NSG coins are NOT on a wallet, I am TRYING to withdawl them TO a wallet(which I have created).
They are right now still credited to my NASGO Global Offering account which I used to buy these tokens in early 2018. This account is not a wallet.
That’s simply how these things work normally. You participate in an ICO or token sale, get credited with tokens on your ICO account you created for this purpose.
After some waiting period, you can specify a wallet address to withdrawl these tokens to. That part is not happening despite me assigning a valid NASGO wallet days ago.
” That part is not happening despite me assigning a valid NASGO wallet days ago.” = it’s called the long con.
You got played.
If you were talking to an accountant, he would tell you if they are not in your possession, they don’t exist, they are simply numbers on your screen.
That’s why it’s called “fraud”.
Sorry for your losses.
Sharenode is now encouraging people to not withdraw NSG from their backoffice by offering worthless 5% SNP bonuses each week and you can only withdraw 5000 NSG per week from your backoffice. Good luck with that.
The following is from their FAQ section –
In regards to the 5% bonus:
This officially started on April 26th.
The only reason a suspected Ponzi scheme stops paying out is when they’ve run out of money.
Begging investors to roll over profit on the promise of bonus worthless tokens is end-game.
When I wrote my book, I gave a list of the warning signs your investment scam/Ponzi is in serious trouble or about to close:
All you have to do is compare what is happening with NASGO/SHARENODE and see how many of these events has happened or are in the process of happening.
Hi all,
This is the beginning of the end for Sharenode/NASGO SCAM, you can’t say that you were not warned.
Today via an email I received the following notice from idecideinteractive – they are the hosting company of the Sharenode online Presentation a tool/service that all their affiliates were using.
They have shutdown their services for non payment.
Think!!! If they can’t pay their most important bills such as their online interactive presentation past due bill (and no presentation means no sales), how can they pay any of their staff, partners, affiliates or fund many promised or better said (missed promised) projects.
Guys…I am sure Sharnode/NASGO management scam team will come up with some sort of bullshit excuse such as they did not see/get the bill or accounting mistakes just to prolong their inevitable shutdown because of lack of funding in order to continue their scam.
But don’t YOU fall for any of their empty promises, bullshit and excuses.
Tru
Hi again… (in continuation of post #263)
Man, these Sharenode/NASGO scammers work fast!!! I just read an email reply to the iDecide email notice from the Sharenode/NASGO scam team, just as I’d predicted.. here is the first paragraph of their email;
All Bull crap… its a freaking joke, the Sharenode/NASGO scan team really believe that the general public are bunch of dumb-assess.
Tru
WOTOKEN is headed in the same direction as Sharenode/Nasgo. Unfortunately the MLM scam artist like TROY REDJA is promoting WOTOKEN as the new platform to make a million bucks all to put commissions in his pocket from innocent victims.
This is probably his 10th scam this year, nine have already failed. Beware and stay away from this thief and MLM crook!
Quite frankly, who cares what NASGO / Sharenode says.
They are dead in the water. Changing information providers isn’t going to make a scrap of difference.
The NASGO website has dropped 203,000 places in the Alexa rankings over the past 90 days.
THAT is why usage has dropped to 100 per day.
Nobody is interested in the silly little scam
It has been interesting watching the trading taking place on Bitforex exchange.
The pump pushed the coin to the mid-90 cent range then the dump came in and dropped it to the mid-70 cent range.
You could also watch the bots in action. A little push today to get it back to the 77 cent range, but zero takers at the 76 cent range so far.
Just wanna say you guys were correct. This scam is needs to get shutdown immediately. Nasgo/Sharenode are 100% fraudsters.
Oh ye of limited knowledge. Try getting informed with facts before you assume. (Ozedit: derails removed)
Fact: prelaunch development is just that and is still in pre-launch in 2019. Who ever said a company cannot make changes for improvement?
Know what is required to be a securities and stop speaking so foolishly.
The only fraudsters are those of you who know not what you say. Are you paid shills for you obviously don’t know where or how to find the truth!
There is no scam only in your unfounded accusations! One who knows! 🙂
Prelaunch? Nasgo launched about a year and a half ago. ShareNode itself is almost a year old.
Pretending either company is still in prelaunch is some Ash Mufareh level bullshit right there.
A passive investment opportunity, offered both through NSG and SNP tokens. Securities regulation is not rocket science.
By all means continue to be in denial about it, but spare us the “I know the real story” garbage.
You’re making excuses for scammers. At least be honest about it.
he did
is the only scam keyword one needs.
Mary you are misinformed!! You know nothing about how scams work. James and Tippetts know fully what they are doing. Now prelaunch till September?? This story is getting old and shame on you for not figuring it out by now.
Oz keep up the good work exposing this Ponzi scheme.
Mary you are misinformed!! You know nothing about how Ponzi’s work. James and Tippetts know fully what they are doing.
Now prelaunch till September?? This story is getting old and shame on you for not figuring it out by now.
Oz keep up the good work exposing this Ponzi scheme.
I cannot wait for the SEC to shut down Nasgo & Sharenode. Unfortunately all investors will be screwed.
I am not sure what the SEC would shut them down for. NSG is a security token and is on an exchange. I don’t think Nasgo ever had an ICO for their coin.
SNP is an advertising credit, will never be on an exchange.
There should be numerous developments well before Sept.
Hopefully the SEC will act first and then establish a Receiver to help get some of the victims money back, and freeze what little assets they have before they do clawbacks. Otherwise a lot of people got screwed even Mary if they run with the money.
From what I have gathered not a lot of money left to freeze. And Steve is still MIA.
I wonder if Mary drew the short end of the straw to have to come here to defend this Ponzi? Everyone else has left the building to never return again.
Mary, you might want to ask 360 and Steve H where they went and why they haven’t come back. You might want to ask them what they know that you don’t.
For running a passive investment opportunity through ShareNode.
The only way to “developments” your way out of securities fraud is to register yourself with the SEC.
SNP is not a security token and does not need to be registered.
Steve C and David K are both going to CA for 2 days of meetings as we have been told.
A post I wrote 1-2 weeks ago was never posted so I quit coming here for awhile.
Eric T. and Steve C. July 3rd.
nasgo.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/NASGO_CoverStoryDigitalCopy.pdf
ShareNode is a passive investment opportunity and very much needs to be registered with the SEC.
The vehicle ShareNode’s passive investment opportunity is offered through is neither here nor there.
Steve H stop drinking the juice!!! Seriously!!
What happened to Jaafar Jackson releasing his music exclusively on Vapr? Not easy when your app is garbage and not available in the Apple App Store! Oh and his music is on Spotify and the other streaming services.
The coin is worthless because there is no working technology!! How many more delays?? In September you’ll hear more excuses.
Whatever happened to Surf City?
Why is NSG locked up by Sharenode?? The whole purpose of decentralization is NOBODY controls that kind of stuff. The nerve of them to even use this scam and the word “blockchain” in the same sentence!! They cryptocurrency community DOES NOT need anymore scams like this.
No other exchange would even want to list NSG because it’s worthless and Nasgo would have to pay to get it listed in the first place. Not practical when the money is running dry and people are cashing out whatever NSG they have access to.
The way it works is you list a coin on a exchange and use that capital to develop. Not selling useless SNP or business tokenazation packages with no working product!!!
The Sharenode/Nasgo social media presence is not even growing and there is no activity on their GitHub or Reddit. Don’t think that’s important? Well then you know nothing about this space!!
I left the building because oz stopped letting my posts show up once I commented on your business (Ozedit: Snip, see below.)
If you wish to comment on ShareNode and/or Nasgo, you are free to do so.
Anything else is offtopic and will be removed.
VAPR is listed in the Apple store. In beta but there.
I was wondering about Surf City also. No news posted at all from that company so I don’t know if something happened with that business.
I did meet the owner back in Jan or Feb and he said they were already in the process of hiring workers for a summer opening.
QI wonder how on Earth Ryan Conley had not had a lawsuit or prosecuted or in jail.
He has been involved solely in Ponzi scam for the past couple of years, laughing his way to the bank.
he’s a government mole now.
This was a comment left by a reader:
Which lead to:
???
Where are all the juice drinkers now??
James Hardy has your money and you’re never getting it back!
So Oz and Dave…where and when can we view the outcome of the court case?
Not sure. Superior Court records aren’t part of Pacer so I can’t track them.
That and I have no idea what Hardy’s probation hearing is about.
After trading in the 82-85 cent range, the price now has fallen to 57 cent range. A steady downward slide until today when it dropped almost 7%. Guess the bloom is off the pumpkin and people are waking up to the scam.
Time for the bots to kick in and pump this price back up for at least one more go around before total collapse.
I figured the price would fall also sooner than now. It held up quite well for months.
Some are selling to take some money off the table, I have not sold any.
Until utilization of different businesses start it may well fall more.
Businesses have no fees until sales are made. When sales are made the fees will start utilization of NSG.
Ryan Conley has been scamming people for a lot longer than ‘a couple of years”. Is more like 10 years.
Bitclub is OK though I still get paid from that every day after 4 and a half years. Without recruiting anyone and simply mining Bitcoin I have made over half a million from a $30,000 investment so far and is no reason it will not keep going.
Mainly due to the increase in Bitcoin price by 50 times I guess but still very good.
If price had stayed the same about $200 I would have mined at least $10,000 but probably much more as there would not have been nearly as much competition.
Russ Mercer the guy behind Bitclub is a good guy. Conley should have just stuck to that.
Sounds like your windfall had nothing to do with BitClub Network.
In fact unless I’m missing something, you’d have made far more just buying $30,000 worth of BTC outright.
Observation of the month, so far, Oz!
I don’t understand why people keep bringing up Ryan C.
Anyone can join. He is not management. I have not heard his name since the Vietnam event back in Jan. He is never on any of the calls.
Slowly moving forward. Tokenized businesses are getting their wallets.
A new page has been added starting to show some of the businesses, ambassadors, influencers and account managers. By no means the final version of this information.
Steve H-
What’s your role in the company? Always so quick to jump to defense of company and adjust your defense to align wirh the excuses and delays company gives as if you were part of management (or maybe Stephen C)
You make intelligent comments, more so than the typical juice drinkers on here, which tells me you are part of the scam not a typical member who got scammed and don’t know any better.
Ryan
Ryan, I am not part of management. I am on most calls and an account manager in training so I do see how the company is evolving to a certain extent.
ShareNode is not selling SNP to members anymore. Referrals earn members SNP and btc if a business tokenizes. That has always been in place with the recent addition of business referrals NOW earning SNP even if they don’t tokenize.
This is a short window until the new back office and new app technology is in place.
Steve
Sharenode is just another scam in a sea of real innovation currently in the crypto community. There are far better crypto choices and even they might not even survive.
Steve
You seem to be in the fold, maybe you can answer these simple questions:
The company has supposedly signed up 100+ companies to tokenize, of which over 50% is paid in commissions.
That’s $50k-$100k in revenue. They supposedly pay that out weekly in commissions. Where do you think this money comes from?
How is the company valued at $1 billion? (According to Tippetts)
Where does the money come from to pay out commissions they claim is $100k+ for some of the “leaders”?
Why is there not a published office location?
Tippetts has hours of YouTube video content soliciting investments from Americans, why not register offering with SEC?
Why no paperwork when you invest telling you what you invested in?
Why always in pre-launch mode for 2 years now?
Why does Tippetts write the Facebook posts in 3rd person talking about himself when he is actually the one writing the posts?
Why is the Founder Steven Chiang off all social media and no return to the United States?
The Apps developed (sort of) have no use or uniqueness, but yet took over a year to develop?
Does NASGO or ShareNode publish their financials to investors?
Does NASGO or ShareNode issue 1099 or tax documents to investors or members who received taxable income (commissions)?
What value did NASGO bring to Jafaar Jackson besides promise to make him millions in a token raise?
Same question, but for that female artist Tucker.
Why is their an MLM comp plain tier to an investment program?
Why did James Hardy suggest people wire him direct forninvestments?
Why is NASGO and ShareNode not registered as companies or have company bank accounts when they do business and raise money in USA?
What is Eric Tippetts qualification running a “billion dollar tech company”?
Am I only person that thinks Tippetts has an unbelievable gift to say an entire story without making any actual sense? His story of opening the world to do business sounds like the Internet. His claim to use satellites to bypass firewalls may be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard
Is Eric Tippetts really Derek Zoolander?
Don’t understand the question.
Not the value of the company but the sidechain tokens issued to businesses as I understand it. (According to Tippetts)
Most of these commissions were in the early days. SNP were bought with btc and btc was paid as commissions.
Don’t know. I can see they are in an office setting on many of the calls.
ShareNode is just over a year old. They just announced this morning the tentative timeline for 3 of the first 4 phases of rollout. 1st just starting. 2nd in the 4th qtr and 3rd 1st qtr 2020.
Some people just talk like that. You have never seen that before. I don’t know why he does that.
Steven was in CA last month for 2 days of meetings.
This has been very slow. David K. and his team is developing the software for businesses and members for months now. Supposed to start being rolled out before the end of the month.
NO, SNP purchased is not an investment as it can’t be sold for returns. They are advertising credits that will start to be used in the near future.
Not that I know of as commissions that have been paid are in btc which is constantly changing in value. It is the members responsibility to keep track of their btc trades when they sell them.
Couldn’t say, his posts have just started to appear on VAPR. Still in beta.
Same question, but for that female artist Tucker. Same.
Don’t understand the question. Their comp plan is the least MLM structured that I have ever seen. What are you referring to?
Don’t know all the particulars here other than there was no payment system on the site initially. I did buy some SNP this way and the SNP was immediately put in my account.
They are registered but not in the USA. Don’t know about bank accounts.
Again, I am not part of management and these answers are as I have learned them.
Numerous posts on how the ShareNode website on Alexa ranking fell and fell. Check out the last 90 days. Up 20,000 from 90 days ago and about 75,000 since mid June.
The NEW! Profiles page for Influencers, Brand Ambassadors, and Account Managers started just after the low. Businesses are also starting to be added. This is a temp page until the new site is rolled out.
Steve H- I sympathize for you, and i understand you’re brand loyalty and you probably have some money at stake so this “must work” for your money and people you referred.
I think my points were pretty clear, you gave an answer to some but didn’t really address the issue at point.
Whether you know it or not, Tippetts and Chiang raised money as investments from people all over the world (including the USA) based on their projection their company would be worth $1 Trillion dollars and investors would earn 1,000x their investment, they said “verbatim” that it was like investing in Apple in Steve Jobs garage. But all their statements were false.
This is an issue with regulators who enforce investment schemes in the USA.
At that time, they were running an MLM Ponzi scheme and promising crazy returns and said they ere the next Apple and GoDaddy and Microsoft and 2nd “Trillion Dollar Company” behind Apple.
Do you understand how ridiculous this is for a second? If you don’t, i go back to my original statement you are ripping off your friends and family off for money and pretending you “believe” in the cause.
Their ICO price put the company at a Billion dollar valuation, yet they take in a few hundred thousands dollars in revenue. I can tell from your comments this is all above your head or pay grade as they say.
I’m not against you, i feel sorry for you if you are really a believer still in their program.
Do you reside in the USA or are you an APAC member?
I was not involved in the early days of Nasgo. Did not get involved until ShareNode became part of the program. I have of course heard the story of the potential of the company to be like apple or Microsoft from the beginning.
I have heard the same from a dozen other companies. Anything is possible.
Yes, the revenues have been small as about 400 businesses have joined and the low current fee doesn’t even cover the cost of setup.
Some technology is in beta and the main back office software is still in development. Many companies are waiting for proof of concept with some use cases.
I believe there are too many people contributing their efforts to the many aspects of growing this business to not have some level of success sooner than later.
We all hate waiting for results. There have been many stumbling blocks and the next couple months should be interesting.
I am from the USA.
Steve H: You say that NASGO/Sharenode is registered outside the US, but where are they registered? Since they operate in California, their headquarters are in California they have to registered with the California Secretary of State and the California Department of Corporations as a foreign corporation.
They’re not. This alone makes them operating in California illegally.
Yo also said that the low revenue the current fee does not cover the cost of setup for the companies. How do you know this is true? Have you seen the financial statement proving this claim?
It also leads to the question are they keeping this fee low because that is the only way they can get companies to join? This is a recipe for disaster and yet they are doing nothing about it; except give this as an excuse for the low revenue figures. Not buying it.
This has been one excuse after another to keep this charade going on a little longer. Always dangle the carrot that things are going to get better just to keep the members inline and not bolting.
The problem is they soon run out of excuses and people realize they’ve been had. Then things really get ugly.
This is a house of cards and the wind is about to blow and it will all come tumbling down. But you are right, the next couple of months will be really telling.
I do give them credit for keeping this going for this long before it blew up in everyone’s face. But the clock is ticking and they don’t have as long as they hope they have before it will all come crashing down.
Fraudsters James Hardy & Eric Tippetts have no clue what they are doing other than scamming people.
Any info on what happened in the James Hardy case in San Diego on August 2?
Happened across this July article.
Are you claiming that NASGO/SHARENODE has said this is the registration for NASGO/SHARENODE offshore? That’s not a SHARENODE/NASGO registration.
This is nothing more than a contract for Damoasun Casino to use the NASGO platform. They lied if they claim NASGO is registered offshore and this is their proof of their registration.
So let me ask again, in what country is NASGO/SHARENODE registered?
This website gets more traffic than Nasgo & Sharenode combined.
I wonder what Eric Tippetts is gonna do when Bitcoin destroys every altcoin/shitcoin into oblivion?
A source contracted me via email and stated that Hardy was sentenced to three years probation on one felony count of grand theft.
Another count of “theft from an elder or dependent adult” was dismissed, in exchange for Hardy pleading guilty to the grand theft charge.
There’s another hearing scheduled for September 11th.
I don’t think Hardy knows how to make a living that doesn’t involve scamming, so will be a long 3 year probation to try to earn income without violating probation.
Does anyone know if he still leads the ShareNode member calls? He’s so unbelievably arrogant it’s impossible to listen to him.
Well, the share price is tanking on the Bitforex Exchange. It is now down to a little over 21 cents. It was in the mid-40 cent range just about 12 days ago, I think.
Come on guys, time to get those bots working again to artificially inflate the price for the next round of pump and dump.
Well so much for SHARENODE/NASGO being registered outside the US since Steve H cannot name where they are registered.
But then we had the same issue with where their corporate office was located. Never did get an address or suite number for them, just the city where they say it is located.
Then gave a phone number that was for a different city than where the office is supposedly located.
But they are the real deal and have nothing to hide.
It’s nice to know the management team of Sharenode/NASGO reads this forum.
They have managed to pump the price up to the 30 cent range from its 19-22 cent range. Now the question is can they pump it to 40 cents before reality sets in and it drops back down?
Any word on James Hardy? He’s been missing in action along with a few others.
See comments #287 and #310.
What about today’s hearing?
Not sure. Local case so we don’t get updates unless someone local provides them.
I don’t know if anyone else is suing these guys yet, but I am about to.
One of the affiliates tells me ShareNode is dead. James hardy texted me a couple of weeks ago that he resigned and that Eric Tippetts is now running ShareNode.
ERic’s lawyer(s) disclaim Eric has anything to do with ShareNode. I guess some fraud claims will uncover the truth is otherwise.
Well, the NAGO share price is now a little over 17 cents, down over 9% from its high of low 30 cent range. Maybe the word is out it’s over.
Eric is a scammer who should never be trusted. He’s a serial liar.
Would you be willing to discuss this with me offline? (removed)
This is a public platform, anything you wish to discuss can be done so in full view of other readers.
If you go to NASGO and Sharenode YouTube pages there are a few videos where Eric Tippetts says they created Sharenode.
They clearly ran it, and now say they don’t have anything to do with it and never did.
Stay tuned … NEW MOBILE SMART TOKENS will change advertising from a Pre Paid Model to a Post Paid Model.
Oh YES … this is a $700B annual industry. We are in the Right Place at the Right Time … which will take some time.
Good things are happening. The new world of Apps, E-wallets and merchant pay systems is all coming together.
Ruhroh… that sounds like Nasgo wants in on the mobile app wallet Ponzi train.
So we’re just throwing everything in the bin up till now and starting again?
James Hardy’s lawyer says:
Wow. More amazingly, he also says (unwittingly admits?):
@Collin
Where’s this from?
@Oz, it’s from emails the lawyer sent me.
Any chance of a screenshot? I can keep personal details out of it.
Any bets that Steve Chiang is still in country? Poor Eric and James left holding the proverbial bag while he hides in China.
If the SEC does take action, it will be interesting to see if they appoint a receiver to go after the big winners in this Ponzi.
Sadly there are going to be a lot of people who have learned a very expensive lesson the hard way. Maybe next time they will listen…Nah, the next one will be “different” mantra.
You know like they learned from Sharenode/NASGO’s mistakes thus they are doing it the right way BS.
Collin, you’re in touch with the lawyers? If the SEC is investigating Nasgo/Sharenode, how long before shutdown? Can’t help wondering how much money Eric/Steve/James/Butch, etc., made from recruiting people and companies. Sad. Lots of effort for nothing it seems.
I don’t believe for a minute that ShareNode was a scam. Too many good people left great jobs and put their Rep. online line.
James told Eric he had to be willing to lose millions of dollars.
I think what happened was; James was spending every dime promoting, and running all over the world. Sharenode’s money. Eric decided that it wasn’t growing fast enough for him and cut him off.
And yes, James HAS earned a (some what) honest living in the past, as an Insurance Ex.
Many companies go bankrupt. Doesn’t mean they were a scam.
You don’t need to speculate, what happened is right there in ShareNode and Nasgo’s business model.
They launched a shit token nobody cared about until they started running Ponzi schemes through it.
Going bankrupt is not the same as Ponzi scheme inevitably collapsing. And who left what job and who was willing to lose whatever amount of money are strawmans.
@Mike-
Their business model was a Ponzi, anyone can tell that a mile away. Invest for daily passive income, but can only withdraw x% so that new money coming in covers withdrawals (until it doesn’t, and it collapses).
Eric didn’t have money before this scam, bought a Bentley with investors money. Couldn’t ever even rent an office to make legit looking, ran from a PO Box down the street from his house.
Now in Cambodia ripping off more gullible people than they found here.
Probably the most ridiculous assumption I have ever heard. They were clearly telling people they would be millionaires on the calls and meetups.
This whole thing was definitely illegal from an SEC point of view. They just never got caught. Now the scam has been exposed and everything is falling apart.
Interesting turn of events. NSG is no longer listed on Bitforex trading platform. Just 2 days ago the price was showing at 11-13 cents, but today it is gone.
Now the question is how much longer before the websites are gone?
Now this is weird. On Bitforex NSG is listed again at 0.077 cents, but zero trading activity. Not sure if there is a technical glitch on the website for NSG, but all the other listings are showing trades and trading volume.
Now NSG is back trading again. Jumped up to 17 cents briefly and now back down to a little over 10 cents. Not sure what caused the glitch, but a weird couple of days in the trading of NSG on Bitforex.
It has been fun watching the BOTS pump and dump taking place.
They pumped the price up to 41 cents from around 11 cents, and now the dump is down to the 31 the cent range.
Hmm, where have all the “leaders” gone? Seems they have gone MIA. Now you don’t suppose………….
Lynndel, the SEC is involved now. Not sure the company is even viable at this point. Do you have any further information?
Not sure what you are asking if I have any further information?
I was merely pointing out that the Execs of this have gone MIA and have been for a few months now. You can bet that Steve has gone out of the country for at least 3-4 months, maybe longer. If he hasn’t then he is dumber than I gave him credit for.
The SEC is a regulatory agency only.What you need to know is that the SEC does not have “investigators” on staff. They either use the FBI or the Secret Service to conduct their investigations. Sometimes they hire outside contractors to conduct an investigation (CPA firms, Auditing Firms, etc.).
Just because an investigation is being undertaken, does not mean that it will result in any action being taken by the SEC. The majority of investigations conducted on behalf of the SEC result in zero findings of any violation of the US Securities Laws.
Having said that, I have said from day one this is a Ponzi, and I do expect the SEC and the law enforcement agency who conducted the investigation (I think it is the FBI) to find NASGO/SHARENODE has violated the US Securities Laws.
The only unknown to me is just how many civil charges will be filed against them and who all will be named. The DOJ will determine if there will be any criminal charges filed in the case.
Personally I don’t think the SEC and the investigators are too happy that it was revealed the SEC is involved. The reason should be obvious.
Meanwhile . . . James Hardy was spotted in the last few days in the hallway of a movie theater on his mobile phone pitching something and saying, “this is a great deal.”
Off to the next scam, maybe?
… and now, when one tries to log into the ShareNode website, the following message appears . . .
Considering this may mean the end of the road for people with NSG trapped in the ShareNode system, I do wonder when someone will file a criminal complaint that ShareNode/Hardy/Chelliah/Tippets/Chang/Morales/NASGO have committed theft by keeping them from transferring NSG to Bitforex so they can sell it.
And the NASGO Medium page is trying to separate NASGO from ShareNode. Still, Nasgo is promoting the use of AMICO app as a digital wallet. Still . . . no way to transfer NSG to one’s AMICO wallet.
I was asked above if I would post the portions of emails from Hardy’s attorney that
1. admit they were selling securities (unregistered as we now) and
2. that there is an active SEC investigation into NASGO.
Here you go (note, these are word for word quotes, except I am leaving out portions where this slime bag lawyer makes threats and libelous statements and generally writes in a way that reveals he is likely the asshole he is trying so hard to appear to be).
September 14, 2019 —
Hardy’s lawyer:
He did not like my response :
Me:
Then on September 21, 2019, Hardy’s lawyer wrote (among other things) —
”
In another email, he wrote and stated I should quit writing to him while “drunk.”
As a result of some things he threatened, I filed a CA State Bar grievance against him (it’s ongoing), and in researching this joke of a lawyer, I found he has some ethical matters with the CA State Bar regarding what looks like a physical assault on a person and a drunk driving charge. Imagine that.
Geez, y’all 24/7 wiretapping the guy or what?
Thank you Collin for the updates. I too “…wonder when someone will file a criminal complaint that ShareNode/Hardy/Chelliah/Tippets/Chang/Morales/NASGO have committed theft by keeping them from transferring NSG to Bitforex so they can sell it.”
Please keep us posted on this. Thank you for your efforts.
I understand OUR token technology will work on the new website with just only the ShareNode new app.
Where is the agreement with David Koston? What are the terms? Who is he communicating with??? We see a partial new website .. and it’s probably all done ready to go.
Someone is going to come along and acquire OUR NEW MOBILE SMART TOKEN TECHNOLOGY right from under our noses. Let’s do something about this!!!!!
John, they have a bigger problem than that. Sharenode and Nasgo are not registered in the state of California as required by law. Their headquarters are in California.
All someone has to do is register both names with the California Secretary of State and they are out of business immediately; unless they pony up whatever the party who registered the names demands for them.
Now what was this again about how real Sharenode and Nasgo are again?
We have a new name for a new company and this time we can do it correctly with new leadership with integrity.
Previous leadership are MIA. MOBILE SMART TOKENS/digital coupons is great technology that will change the world of advertising!!!
This is what all Ponzi’s do. Change their name and claim there is new leadership, they are doing it right this time, yada, yada, yada. You are gullible aren’t you.
I tokenized my business, Rei of Light Jewelry back in probably May 2019 for $1995.00 and have been “waiting” all along for this launch.
Realizing that I have been scammed is such a shock to me since it all seemed so real.
I guess that is how a Ponzi scheme works. I’m shocked as this seemed so legit. I’m a smart woman so how can this be? If anyone files claims I with you.
Your first red flag should have probably been why the need to tokenize a jewelry business to begin with.
Is Collin Porterfield putting together a lawsuit????
You need to file a complaint with your DA, your state Attorney General and IC3.gov ASAP. Also, if you know of anyone else who is a victim get them to do the same thing.
If you are unsure how to file a complaint, just click on my name above and contact me so I can help you.
Lynn, yes i do need assistance. (removed).
Many others I’m sure will file too that have paid to tokenize their business or paid to become an influencer. Collin, are you pursuing action?
I actually referred St. Jude Children’s Hospital to come on as a non-profit in Sharenode, can you believe someone would look to take money from them in a scheme!!
Kudos to those taking action.
THIS is how victims of fraud need to react in order to actually get something done! Put the heat on these characters!
I am closely associated with the victim in the Hardy San Diego County felony case.
He pled guilty to defrauding a 76 year old widow of about $170’000. He is a liar and a cheat.
His “defense” to not repaying other money obtained by fraud was to cop to the less serious charge.
He is now on probation and the unresolved question remains whether ongoing financial dealings violate an earlier plea deal.
He used the “my new cryptocurrency investments haven’t launched yet” until the Judge got sick of hearing it. Unknown how he avoids jail now.
Investors should be aware of his history and run far and fast from anything he touches. Oh, and he has changed criminal lawyers at least 4 or 5 times.
Not to be mean, but can you believe someone actually referred St. Jude to associate with an MLM company – given the scam history of multi-level marketing.
Sure hope this lady does the appropriate due diligence next time. In the mean time, I’m glad she’s reporting this particular MLM company to the authorities.
This is some of the latest BS being posted on their site
Exxa Wallet is another MLM cryptocurrency Ponzi scheme.
Anyone know the status of Tippetts and Chiang? Chiang probably in the hills of China, but Tippetts doesn’t have much room to hide U.S. regulators.
They are in a tough spot, scrape Internet and websites of their false statements and run risk of thousands of victims coming to surface or let evidence stay out there in appearance still open for business and leave for civil and criminal evidence.
Does anyone know if Sharenode is a total scam and nothing will come of our $ to tokenize and launch this community? Who are these people answering the phone line as Sharenode?
Not a simple answer for you Brenda. If they just run with the money, all will be lost. The only hope is the Feds move and shut it down freezing assets so after the trial is over, a Receiver can be appointed for the claims process and then do a clawback action against the net winners to add to any assets that have been frozen so payments can go to victims.
All of this is predicated that there are assets that have value, money in bank accounts, toys that the leaders of this bought (cars, jewelry, boats, airplanes, houses) that can be sold and proceeds added to the pool of funds to return to the victims.
If the FEDs do act, and a Receiver is appointed it could take up to 2 years to complete the payments to the victims, and it could take longer. And this after the trial has ended, which the trial could take up to 2 years before there is a verdict.
And this is just a thumbnail version of all that has to take place. Hope this helped.
I’m a user from China. What’s wrong with nasgo? Can we continue to operate? What seems to be the legal issues I see in the comments in the above list?
Ask a friend to come out and explain. Thank you very much.
Nasgo has been kaput for some time. If you haven’t already gotten your money out, sorry for your loss.
Is there something wrong? Will the company stop using nasgo? What about nasgo?
What’s their lab for? Are we just being cheated?
Nasgo flopped. It only briefly became a thing when Nasgo launched the ShareNode Ponzi scheme.
I assume you’ve put these questions to the company itself? Sorry for your loss.
I just feel that my team and I have invested 2 million US dollars without much trouble.. What should I do?
What can you do? You invested in a Ponzi scheme and now your money is gone.
What are you going to tell Chinese authorities when unregistered MLM and crypto opps are illegal there to begin with?
Steven is a member of the Chinese market of a bad business who hates her abandoning NSG now.
The Chinese no longer believe him. NSG will be the stain of his life. He owes Chinese members an explanation.
Just checking in. Are Nasgo/Sharenode completely gone? Have Eric, Steve, James Hardy, etc., all checked out?
I heard the SEC was involved and had spoken with several of the leaders. As we’re now in 2020, I’m hoping 2019 was the end. Let me know. Thank you for all the updates.
Haven’t heard anything. AFAIK losses all round.
You might all find Eric Tippits facebook post… interesting.
facebook.com/213933848637461/posts/2954078057956346/
TLDR: Imma hide behind my wife and daughter now. Thanks for the money, buhbye!
Says Eric making a video in SE Asia. The typical “I didn’t know it was a Ponzi/Scam, I was duped, if I had known it was a Ponzi/Scam I would have never got involved, It’s not my fault it was all the others fault” excuses.
I don’t believe you when you claim you were duped and didn’t know. You were the co-founder for God’s sake, and you want to claim you didn’t know? Seriously?
Here’s a clue for you Eric: You know you are in a Ponzi when you call your detractors “haters.”
So is SE Asia now your new home? Afraid to come back to the US?
You left out Sam Stebbins, the bipolar two faced Shrek-like military reject of a lackey for Eric that helps with backend crap.
Like others in the crypto scam he has “positions” and “dummy spots” Eric duped him with before the whole deck of cards crashed to less than a penny. That gang deserves each other.
NASG is just barely hanging above a penny at 0.011 in USD trading. Not long before it drops below 1 cent and totally disappears.
Even the bots can’t keep this from tanking. I am just surprised it is still above a penny and still trading.
James Hardy is a thief. Honestly, it was him that screwed up Nasgo.
Eric entrusted James but didnt know James was keeping the money of investors that should have been put into their wallets as NSG.
NSG was the only currency of value, which was being traded on the exchange. What James did was freeze everyone’s accounts that had NSG. He went ahead and sold those NSGs for himself.
Now, James is pretending to be innocent by having a lawyer and cooperating with the SEC.
He basically hi-jacked Sharenode which ruined Nasgo. He took all Sharenode members money and is now turning against Eric.
James Hardy is the culprit. Eric didnt know James was stealing his own members NSGs.
Not to defend Hardy but Nasgo served only as Ponzi points to ShareNode’s fraudulent scheme.
Outside of ShareNode Nasgo was worthless. Running a Ponzi scheme is on James, Eric and Steve.
James was the crook within the crooked operation. Investors may or may not have known what they were getting into was illegal.
What was known was that those investments were people’s hard earned money. What also was known was the fact that James Hardy knew that his members understanding of the scheme of his operation, and Sharenodes relationship with Nasgo was murky to begin with, allowing him to manipulate and eventually steal the money.
The only way to liquidate any return of investment from Sharenode was to sell their NSGs, which James blocked.
James was the owner of Sharenode so Eric had no idea what James was doing until people started complaining. James Hardy is a trickster.
Ignorance is not an excuse or justification for fraud.
NSG flopped and was resurrected as Ponzi points through ShareNode, a scam in and of itself.
Prior to ShareNode Nasgo was just another “sorry for your loss” pump and dump shitcoin. The moment ShareNode launched it went full Ponzi.
Everybody had access to ShareNode’s compensation plan. They all knew what they were doing.
Ignorance? Whose justifying any fraud? Clarify ignorance. Whose ignorant?
Let’s go point by point here, (Ozedit: whacky conspiracy theories removed)
You are, by making excuses for the perpetrators of it.
Leave the conspiracy theories on social media, thanks.
(Ozedit: derails removed)
Anyways, show exactly where theres an excuse for the perpetrators….
(Ozedit: more derails removed)
Fact: Nasgo’s NSG are Ponzi points used to commit fraud through ShareNode.
Sophia: *gives everyone involved a pass except James Hardy*
Oz: points out everyone involved is legally liable.
Sophia: spits the dummy with whacky conspiracy theories.
You’re just as confused as the victims from Sharenode, if not more. Explain to the layman how Nasgo’s Ponzi points were used to commit fraud thru Sharenode. (Ozedit: derails removed)
Where exactly did I say I give everyone a Pass except for Hardy? You like to make believe stuff, apparently. What are you smoking?
You point out everyone is liable….(Captain Obvious, isnt that your purpose in life?) Slow down, one point at at time, boy. You’re biting off more than you can chew here.
(Ozedit: more derails removed)
Try reading the review you’re commenting on.
#383:
Don’t have time for stupid today. This close to spam-bin.
@sophie
If you promoted OUR got a kickback (a cut. of The investment from people you brought in our used your ”ref link”)
Your liable aswell
Was anyone able to cash out ShareNode (SNP) Tokens?? How do I cash out or sell right now??
Their whole support and community is down and been down for months now.
You invested in a Ponzi scheme and your money is long gone.
Sorry for your loss.
@Sophie
Not sure when you got in Sharenode, but the background was Steven is the mastermind of many Asian Ponzi schemes, Eric was his “white monkey” as they refer to in Asia. The white guy who would get on stage while the Asian ran the scam from behind curtains.
They worked together in many scams in China until Steven was run out. So Steven talked Eric into a new scam, on a new market (America) and he came up with NASGO to try to scam as an ICO.
Eric was face card, Steven was the brains.
ICO failed, so they turned into what they know- Ponzi MLMs. They designed ShareNode and recruited a willing scammer James Hardy to run it.
Follow the money. Eric paid all the bills for Sharenode, including the MLM software. He and Steven owned it and took the money, minus what cut they gave Hardy.
Steven knew he could flee back to Singapore and leave Eric holding the bag.
Too many people got scammed, Feds are on it they just move slow.
Hardy and Eric will go to jail. Steven maybe if he ever steps foot back in USA.
Members will get $0 of their money back. Write that off as a lesson learned.
I like how the T’s are obviously Eric and Steven’s lackeys using ghost names.
One of Eric’s goons is a guy named Sam Stebbins. Real piece of work. They all got taken though more than likely.
After Eric got enough investors and pumped it up from 25cents to $1 per token he and Steven obviously pulled their 65%+ tokens out of the market as cash and moved it all to offshore accounts.
Since the collapse of the token to <1cent/share not a peep from the platform, their blogs, or anything.
The SEC is likely all over them, wouldn't surprise me if Eric relocated his entire family to Malaysia, the Philippines or wherever the chuck that Steven hack is.
LOL at Jason, never heard of "white monkey" before, good one. to me Eric resembles the "White Satanic Zack Morris" from saved by the hell.
Well, years have passed now. The SEC did file a suit and demanded $24,000,000 be paid.
Has anybody been able to claw back any losses, or know of an email or address to contact receivership if they were reimbursing people who lost $$?
I highly doubt it. I wrote this off as a loss and a lesson years ago. But, if there’s a refund due that SEC is sitting on, it’d be nice to have it.
Uh what? Case number please.
I know there was an investigation, doesn’t seem to have gone further than that.
I am circling back to see developments and am ready to pursue these scumbag thieves.
Other than the aforementioned possible SEC case, is anyone aware of any other lawsuits?
It doesn’t seem that there is any lawsuit filed, there is no information on the world wide web about this.
SEC Sued: (Ozedit: covered here – SEC sues Chiang & Tippetts for Nasgo & ShareNode sec. fraud)
Has anyone heard of (removed). I have had 2 people contact me that this group has recovered funds for people involved in the Nasgo/Sharenode SCAM. They contacted me on Messenger. They claim they have recovered funds for people. (Ozedit: snip, see below)
Recovery scam. Avoid.