MOBE Review: $30,000 marketing education?
MOBE, which stands for “My Online Business Empire, was founded in 2011 by Matt Lloyd (full name Matt Lloyd McPhee).
Based out of Australia, Llloyd claims to have launched MOBE ‘after spending several years with very little success with internet marketing‘.
My goal was to create a system that offered a person everything they needed to build an online business: rather than them having to go through the years of trial and error I did.
On his LinkedIn profile, Llloyd (right) lists only LifePath as an MLM company he was involved in prior to MOBE.
Lloyd joined LifePath in 2008, a year before graduating from the University of Western Australia.
Read on for a full review of the MOBE MLM business opportunity.
The MOBE Product Line
MOBE operate in the internet marketing MLM niche, with the company listing the following products on their website:
- My Top Tier Business ($49) – “All the products and systems you need to succeed online. The Internet’s only Done For You direct sales system that will deposit $1,000, $3,000, and even $5,000 checks into your bank account.”
- Licensing Kit ($297) – “7 day training course that will leave you with the expertise in licensing other people’s products so you can make money without creating anything yourself.”
- Inner Circle Memberships ($99 to $299 a month) – “Training by elite earners.”
- Home Business Summit event ($97 (streaming) to $497 (VIP ticket)) – “At The Home Business Summit you will learn the TRUTH ABOUT TRAFFIC and the “missing half” of the equation that separates the Internet Millionaires from the Internet Failures.”
Note that no pricing is provided on the MOBE website, with the prices above instead sourced from MOBE’s compensation plan.
The MOBE Compensation Plan
The MOBE compensation plan revolves around the sale of MOBE products and affiliate memberships.
Retail commissions are offered on MOBE products and services.
“Best seller” examples provided in the MOBE compensation plan are as follows (amount in brackets is paid affiliate commission amount):
- My Top Tier Business – $24.50 ($44.10)
- TTI: 7 Step Program – $44.10 (paid to Platinum and Titanium paid affiliates only)
- IM Revolution – $4.97 ($8.95)
- The Vault – $48.50 a month
- MOBE Elite Earners – $48.50 a month
- Affiliate Bonus Domination – $145.50 ($261.90)
- How to Build a Funded Proposal – $97 ($174.60)
- Email Marketing Empire – $97 ($174.60)
- The OPT Formula – $97 ($174.60)
- Traffic Masters Academy – $148.50
- MOBE Licensing Kit – $148.50
- Instant Info Product – $19.97 ($35.59)
- Home Business Summit event ticket – $120
- Home Business Summit VIP event ticket – $118.80
- Home Business Summit event streaming ticket – $48.50
- Home Business Summit recording – $48.50
For reasons unknown, most of these products are not mentioned on the MOBE website.
MOBE affiliates are paid to recruit new paid affiliates as follows:
- MLR ($1997) – $1000 ($1200 if sale is made by affiliate)
- MLR Inner Circle Membership ($99 a month) – $49.50 a month
- Titanium ($8997) – $3000 ($5000 is sale is made by affiliate)
- Titanium Inner Circle Membership ($199 a month) – $99.50 a month
- Platinum ($14,997) – $5000 ($9000 if sale is made by affiliate)
- Platinum Inner Circle Membership ($299 a month) – $149.50
- Diamond ($30,000) – $10,000 ($15,000 if sale is made by affiliate)
Note that the “if sale is made by affiliate” clause refers to whether or not the affiliate made the sale without the help of MOBE telephone marketing staff.
Also note that MOBE affiliates are unable to earn commissions on affiliate levels higher than what they bought in at.
Eg. A Platinum affiliate cannot earn commissions on the recruitment of a Diamond affiliate.
When this happens, the system looks to the upline for an appropriately ranked affiliate (Diamond in the example above), to pay the commission out to.
If the immediate upline is also not qualified at the required level, then the system looks to their upline and so on and so forth until a qualified affiliate is found.
Note that when this affiliate is found, they are coded to the newly recruited affiliate at that level (all levels between theirs and the affiliate who did the recruiting) for life.
In the above example, that would mean when an affiliate is found, they would be coded to the newly recruited affiliate at the Diamond level.
If the affiliate who did the recruiting was an MLR affiliate, the first Diamond-ranked affiliate would be coded to the newly recruited affiliate at the Titanium, Platinum and Diamond levels.
This includes Inner Circle membership and monthly payable commission at the relevant ranks.
MOBE pay out referral commissions using a 2-level capped unilevel compensation structure.
A unilevel compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a unilevel team, with every personally recruited affiliate placed directly under them (level 1):
Level 1 commissions are paid out as per the retail/recruitment commissions detailed above.
Level 2 commissions pay out 5% of commissions paid out to affiliates on this level (those recruited by level 1 affiliates).
MOBE’s Car Bonus rewards affiliates who recruit new affiliates with up to $1200 a month for a car lease.
The Car Bonus uses points to track qualification, with points earned via the recruitment of new paid MOBE affiliates:
- recruit a new MLR affiliate = 1 point
- recruit a new Titanium affiliate = 3 points
- recruit a new Platinum affiliate = 5 points
As per the MOBE compensation plan, no points are awarded on the recruitment of a Diamond affiliate.
Car Bonus points are tallied up each month, with the following qualification requirements paying out as follows:
- Base Level ($600 a month) – 5 points required
- Luxury Level ($1200 a month) – 10 points required
Note that this is not a cash bonus, and must be put towards the lease of a Mercedes-Benz car.
Basic affiliate membership with MOBE is free, however affiliates can increase their potential commissions by choosing one of the following paid affiliate options:
- MLR – $1997 ($99 a month for Inner Circle)
- Titanium – $8997 ($199 a month for Inner Circle)
- Platinum – $14,997 ($299 a month for Inner Circle)
- Diamond – $30,000 ($299 a month for Inner Circle)
The primary difference between these levels is income potential through the MOBE compensation plan, and the MOBE products and services bundled at each level.
Inner Circle Membership is optional and provides access to marketing training via newsletters, calls, emails, webinars, articles and recorded interviews and videos.
Having come over from LifePath, Matt Lloyd’s MOBE is rooted in the self-development “high-ticket” opportunities that flourished in the 2000s.
Most of those have since collapsed (or are struggling to maintain their affiliate-base).
MOBE’s offering takes that model and replaces personal development with internet marketing training. Backend wise though things are pretty similar, thousands of dollars for affiliate membership and pass-ups if you don’t buy in at the highest level.
Which in the case of MOBE, is a whopping $30,000.
Charging $30,000 alone isn’t a problem but it is a red-flag when put in the context of MOBE’s compensation plan.
Primarily the question of MOBE’s legitimacy lays in how many retail customers are purchasing MOBE products, and how much revenue is generated simply by retailing MLR, Titanium, Platinum and Diamond affiliate memberships.
Historically personal development companies like LifePath had next to no retail taking place. The only people paying thousands of dollars into the company were affiliates – looking to recoup their “losses” by recruiting others who did the same.
In the case of MOBE, strong indicators suggesting that this is taking place are every income example in the compensation plan focusing on the sale of paid affiliate memberships, and that the Car Bonus focuses exclusively on the recruitment of paid affiliates.
Ditto the lack of retail pricing provided on MOBE’s website. Infact, if one clicks on any of the products listed, the MOBE demands visitors enter in an email address.
This functions much more like a capture page than retail portal, which again points to a complete lack of retail focus on the company-end.
When you’ve only got one bonus available to affiliates, the fact that it focuses solely on recruitment of paid affiliates is likely reflective of the focus of MOBE as an MLM income opportunity as a whole.
There’s also a strong pay-to-play element suggesting a focus on recruitment, with free MOBE affiliate membership being effectively, for lack of a better word, gimped.
Taken from the MOBE compensation plan:
As a standard Affiliate you will earn between 40%-50% commissions on front end products under $500 but no commissions on back end products.
However if you wish to earn commissions of 40%-90% on all our products PLUS have our phone sales team selling products for you on the back end with commissions of $1000, $3000 and $5000 per sale, then you
must pay MOBE thousands of dollars in affiliate membership fees.
And that’s in addition to free affiliates being locked out of recruitment commissions (MOBE’s highest paid commissions) entirely.
If the majority of revenue generated and paid out by MOBE is coming in via paid affiliate memberships (including inner circle subscriptions), then effectively MOBE is operating as a recruitment-driven pyramid scheme.
As a prospective MOBE affiliate, I’d highly encourage you to check with your potential upline as to how much commissions they’ve earned via the sale of MLR, Titanium, Platinum and Diamond affiliate memberships. Then compare this to what they’ve earned selling MOBE products and services to non-affiliates (this excludes free affiliates, as they are still affiliates).
If your answer is anything less than a rough 50/50 split, then this is indicative of a product line that is not retail viable. Furthermore it suggest that you as a MOBE affiliate are going to find yourself generating commissions on the recruitment of new affiliates, as opposed to selling products and services to retail customers.
As with all pyramid schemes, if there’s no retail taking place then once the recruitment (of paid affiliates) dies down the scheme collapses.
Update 30th December 2014 – Matt Lloyd informs us that as of recently, MOBE now stands for “My Online Business Education”.
Why lease the car when you can make payments where you can own it for less or around the same amount?
Why take lessons from a self-admitted MLM loser who claims he found the “winning formula”? Is he “winning” yet? Or is he just a a self-promoter who’s pulling himself up by his shoelaces? i.e. fake it till he made it?
MOBE developed out of Matt Lloyd Publishing, supposedly established in Perth, WA in 2008 NOLINK:mattlloydpublishing.com/
So he’s a Kiyosaki wannabe; print his own books, talking up himself, and his secret formula is… sell my books and my system so you can be rich like me…
Nope, that just makes HIM rich.
Thank you for the review and for wanting to provide more information to those doing their due diligence.
Just a few things I would like to comment on… MOBE now stands for My Online Business Education – we did change the name and focus of the company, which you can hear all about in this presentation I did:
(Ozedit: Link to capture page removed)
If you review the compensation plan you will see that partners can also qualify to earn commissions through achieving the minimum number of sales of that program, and not just by buying those products – (“…that’s in addition to free affiliates being locked out of recruitment commissions (MOBE’s highest paid commissions) entirely.”
I was in several other companies besides Lifepath – you won’t find that updated on my Linkedin profile since I don’t actively use it (and haven’t for several years). PleasemMessage me if you would like to know more about which programs, if you’d like to update the article.
If you (or anyone reading this) have any questions about MOBE, (Ozedit: Attempt to take discussion offsite removed) – I will usually be able to respond within 72 hours or someone from my team will if I’m traveling.
Again, thanks for the review.
I didn’t see that, but in any event… cmon Mat, you should know from your LifePath days that nobody is plonking down thousands of dollars to an affiliate who they themselves haven’t bought.
Additionally, what affiliates can and can’t do doesn’t negate the evident chain recruitment scheme within MOBE’s compensation plan. Sign up, pay thousands of dollars to participate and then recruit others who do the same to get paid.
Yeah, or you could just tell us here. But instead you left a link to a capture page, want people to contact you offsite and pimped your Facebook profile.
MOBE might be nothing more than an email list builder for you, but you’ll have to adopt a different approach here.
You can come across as another shady “contact me for the real story” chump and try to redirect visitors to your various online properties – or just be straight and provide readers of this review with actual information. It’s entirely up to you chief.
Here, try answering one simple question:
For the year 2013-2014, how much of MOBE’s revenue was derived from affiliate membership sales versus sales of MOBE products to retail customers (non-affiliates, excluding purchases by free affiliates right up to Diamond)?
You’re the owner of the company, providing this information should be easy enough.
Consider this a reply to the same email you sent me via the contact form.
What’s the differences between the $99 a month Inner Circle, the $199 one, and the $299 ones?
Do you mean that no customer is buying from a standard affiliate our more expensive programs, like Titanium? If so, that’s actually not the case at all – far from it.
Every single day we have sales of our programs to potential customers who were introduced through regular affiliates. I may have misunderstood what you were trying to say?
I actually did not link to a lead capture page at all.
I linked to my TV blog where I host all my numerous videos. The particular video I linked to provides more useful information about MOBE and contribute to the discussion (it’s not a sales pitch – the video is from our recent Bahamas Titanium Mastermind).
There is a lead capture pop-up which might have come up, which with one click can be easily avoided.
Anyone can google ‘the future of mobe’ to find that video (also on youtube), and gain a little more perspective on what MOBE is.
Actually, over 1/2 of our company revenue comes from product sales to people who have nothing to do with our affiliate program.
And we will continue to increase that number through our new MOBE Marketplace (which is clearly explained in ‘the future of mobe’ video mentioned above).
If you are going to ask me to post screenshots of our private revenue numbers or %’s, unfortunately I am not going to do that for you (in the same way that you would not post your private financials on someone elses blog merely because they asked you to).
But we have had to provide that kind of information to companies like I-payout.com, which handle all our affiliate commissions and have extremely strict criteria on which companies they work with – one of their main criteria is exactly what you mention above; companies must have a significant portion of their sales come from retail sales, rather than just affiliate sales.
Oz, it’s quite clear when you make antagonistic comments like this, that your intention is not to have an open, rational discussion to provide an unbiased and fair review. I realise that people messaging me privately does not help your rankings. But I refuse to engage in this conversation any further when this is the kind of tone you’re going to take.
I respect the value your site provides (at least overall) to people doing their due diligence on companies – I just might suggest that if you review a company and the company founder is willing to participate in the discussion in a respectful manner, that you respond in kind.
So I will end my input to this discussion with this reply – no matter what provocative comments are made below 😉
If you or anyone reading want to reach out to talk to me personally, I am happy to answer your questions – (Ozedit: attempts to take discussion offsite removed.)
I wish you all the best.
Nope. I meant exactly what I said.
(edit: Yes if by “standard” affiliate you mean free. I find it a ridiculous notion to assert people are dropping thousands of dollars on memberships the person selling it to them can’t afford. And really, the free affiliate’s aren’t even getting paid for making the higher level sale. Why would they even bother?)
I clicked through and within a second an obnoxious popup demanding I enter my email appeared. It’s a capture page you use as a video-hosting platform. Not welcome here.
As in their actually not affiliates (not free, MLR, Titanium or Platinum affiliates), or in that they haven’t recruited anyone yet?
Yeah, we got a load of i-Payout’s strict criteria when they took TelexFree, the largest MLM Ponzi scheme in history, on as a client.
Real sharp-eyed compliance eagles over at i-Payout compliance.
I respond in kind to marketers who think nobody is going to notice their amateur-hour attempts to take discussion offline and link to capture pages. It is not appreciated, nor good etiquette.
Disrespectful bullshit like the above is exactly what I’m talking about. Christ, take off your internet marketing hat for just a second there Matt and engage us as an actual person. It won’t hurt, promise.
Anyway, I see you’ve chosen to adopt the “contact me for the real story” sleazy marketer approach. Best of luck to you.
@ matt llyod,
your’e doing so many things wrong, even from a laymans perspective!
1] you seem to be like a new age reincarnation of Dare to be Great of the 1970’s, glenn turner. like DTBG, you’re selling training stuff, to people who go out and sell training stuff.
Unless, we can see your retail figures, it doesn’t seem possible or plausible that people are plonking down so much money for ‘training materials’.
Different levels of access to the various items I mentioned. $99 is the most basic and $299 is everything.
2] your training materials, no matter how grandiose you make them sound, are just too expensive. this is a red flag and attracts securities laws like a bear to a beehive.
3] the ‘help’ you provide your affiliates ie, done for you leads, sales systems, phone sales help, all point to a passive recruitment system , where affiliates have to produce the references and management will do most of the recruitment work for them. this lack of ‘activity’ went against DTBG, and is used by the SEC for other recruitment driven schemes as well.
4] your site mentions the word ‘passive income’. that’s a ready killer! the idea is that affiliates have to continuously work for the money, the moment you give the impression that affiliates can do a little work and then sit back and enjoy passive income from the work of others, you’re hitting the ‘securities’ definition.
This is the video Matt tried to link to:
(Ozedit: YT video removed as of June 16th, 2018)
There’s about 40 people in the audience… and the cheer track they added to Lloyd’s intro music is pretty cringeworthy.
I was following an affiliate involved in this. I am not the smartest in figuring these things out and for the life of me I could not figure out what they were peddling.
I kept asking the affiliate what they were selling and his answer was digital products. In looking at the digital products for sale, it looks like worthless junk.
I do not think that much commission is being made selling their so called digital products. It clicked that they are making money by others coming in as affiliates or what they call license rights.
This affiliate seemed to be making money. However when I questioned him on some very elementary level questions, he took offense, told me I was all wrong, never gave me an explanation at all, and then blocked me from his Facebook.
I then tried to get off his email list and could not so I started replying to him with some not so nice language. Finally he took me off his list.
If it looks, acts, smells, and quacks like a duck, it is a duck. And this is a duck.
he would be if he got suckers to buy in.
Lol from what i see it’s a poor attempt at a WordPress site using the OptimizePress Theme. Go to their login page. They haven’t even tried to mask it 😛
Additional: You’re told its free but enter a bogus email address then the next step is enter your Card info to pay $49.95 and access the supposedly free system.
lol whats next?
Matt sell people his pen that is worth $2k.
Hi, I have purchased Matt Lloyds License for $2000 and the products included are incredibly good,for anybody who wants to learn about Internet Marketing I can fully recommend it.
The Titanium seems amazing you get a 3/4 day wealth retreat to learn from some really amazing people in the home business industry.
I am very happy with my purchase thats for sure.
That “cheer track” would be lolworthy if it was not totally unfitting for a crowd of that size and doesn’t even match what they are doing (clapping).
Dude, just say here openly what your other MLMs where. What, is it a State Secret ? Can’t let “them” find out ? What’s the deal ?
Fishy……so fishy my cats are looking at the screen, hungry.
“I am MOBE”
Are we going to have a new saying- “He’s such a Mobe ?”
I just received a cease and desist email contact from a MOBE lawyer Sean Brown in Utah for my review of MTTB/MOBE. I wonder if you will receive the same for yours?
As in just now (the last few days) or recently?
I haven’t received anything personally.
I just received first contact yesterday from Sean. I am still waiting to find out what he wants taken down.
We had Lloyd stop by here and, while he was uninterested in answering too much onsite, he seemed pretty chill.
I would have expected the usual “rah rah how dare you” nonsense if a cease and desist was forthcoming.
No, Oz probably will not. Oz is actually objective in his approach, YOU on the other hand are less than professional in what you do.
YOU simply post a sensational headline to drive traffic to your site and offer NO valuable information or allow for objectivity. You do not allow people to post opposing views or engage in any reasonable conversation. You allow no opinions or corrections that do not align with your personal agenda.
Your reviews are grossly off base and show either a complete lack of education on the industry OR you just dont care about anything but your own agenda.
According to you, EVERYTHING in direct is a scam. Its VERY obvious in reading your reviews that you have no clue how to evaluate a company, a comp plan, OR you refuse to take more than 3 minutes to do so.
You are FAR more unethical, and lack WAY more integrity than the “scams” you are trying to oppose. You should be ashamed.
Now you are going to come HERE to try and get your name out? Dont waste your time. Mommy will be calling you upstairs for dinner soon.
Ethan your reviews are incredibly biased , you block comments completely which prove your reviews wrong.
You are not a nice person and spam wealthy affiliate to anyone who leaves a comment on your page.
Oz “reviews” are more objective although still not 100%
thats why we leave replies to agree disagree with Oz
but at least Oz does not block comments unless they are spam.
Mike I share my opinion on clear scams. I have never spammed anyone about Wealthy Affiliate.
At one time I had one link on my Website for them and have long sense removed it. I do not allow scamming scumbags to comment on my posts. Deal with it.
It’s the passive aggressive approach.
Anyone who purchases this has to wonder how everyone else in the world who is successful in their own business made it without having to buy.
That’s probably what the C&D letter is about, “people dealing with your policy”?
This website has received 3 C&D letters (I know about) over the years. I don’t remember the exact dates, so it will be estimated dates from memory.
1. CarbonCopyPRO / ProU “compliance department”, early 2012 (or 2011), complaining about some information I posted about member flee a few months after it divorced from WMI Wealth Masters International. They decided to accept it.
2. Gerald Nehra on behalf of TelexFree, complaining about an article in February 2013, e.g. the references to Brazilian authorities investigating TelexFree, and the use of “Ponzi scheme”. He decided to accept it.
3. Bid For My Meds’ attorney, early 2014, “constructing a defamation case” because of the use of terms like “pyramid scheme”. They decided to make some changes to the business model.
Allowing people to post comments and to make corrections will be the first line of defense against lawsuits. Or at least it will usually be the first line after the content itself (some people will contact an attorney first, and will not try to make corrections).
Each of those 3 examples would eventually have been forced out on “thin ice”, i.e. they didn’t have solid cases in the first place, and their clients had serious vulnerabilities.
Exactly the response I would expect from someone such as yourself. Some of those “scammers” have more talent and success than you will ever dream of having.
Its ashame that you dont have enough integrity or ambition to run on your own merit.
The lowest of the low in marketing will use the name of a successful company or person to bring attention to themselves for personal gain. It is one of the most unethical, amatuer, lowlife business practices there is. Itis also a loud and clear broadcast of you total lack of experience and success in ANY endevor.
ANYONE who has had ANY success in ANY business would never act like that or use those tactics.
The piggyback, bait and switch, sensational marketing is also VERY transperent to anyone who has a clue. Ethan, I am sorry to say that your type in marketing is the biggest predator, lowest life form and is the absolute epitome of “Scumbag Scammer”.
Your desperate attempts are obvious and laughable. If you EVER want to make anything of yourself you will have to actually do the work rather than try to create shortcuts at the expense of others.
NO person in business becomes successful by tearing others down to lift themselves up.
Umongst those that even know who you are, you are considered a complete joke. Deal with it!
Alright I think Vanderbuilt’s got a fair idea of what you think of his site. Let’s keep it on topic.
if common sense wants to be mean to ethan, he should do it over at ethan’s site or email him.
why use behindmlm as a vehicle for what clearly sounds like ‘personal’ vendetta or dislike?
I know was was taking it too far off track. Thanks for bearing with me. Im done 🙂
The problem with allowing comments is often they contain links or whatnot that these people want to link back, affiliate or not. And they often employ “wall of text” approach.
Not all blog platforms allow admin to edit comments, and when you want to nuke comments solely based on one errant link it’s a bit draconian.
I personally think allowing free and clear (but relevant) discussion where all angles are discussed is worthwhile. If a scammer want to give us more rope to hang him- or herself, so be it.
Scammers already censor the heck of their community, and often employ bogus C&D to muzzle critics. We are after free sharing of information… accurate information.
But Ethan is admin of his own website and he can run it any way he see fit. And that’s all I have to say on it.
First of all thanks Oz. Not sure the keywords that brought me here but glad I found it.
Matt is very consistent with making contact where he and his company is mentioned(gotta love Google Alerts). I remember also reading a discussion like this one on a marketing forum.
I have interest because of a gentleman named Zac Crawford. He has a excellent style for network marketing that really draws you in. I think the best people at it can do it in any Network really.
He says himself he WAS with Empower, he WAS with Pureleverage…and that is my biggest fear with MLM…actually its the same with affiliating with a Amazon dot com….you are not in control and the bottom can fall out at anytime.
But Zac says he made half a million dollars last year in 2014 with his primary promotion MOBE. THAT is what draws people like me in…not the details….the money….all about the money.
I personally do not like the face plastering all over the web like a Guru to market but for half a mill I would consider it hahaha. But I think if I can make the same amount of money behind the scenes that would be my preference.
An attraction to MOBE would be that their people do all the follow ups for you but I just do not want to be setting up a business around something that can do south on you for whatever reason.
I tried to set up a Skype call with Zac but he cancelled it after I informed him I was not prepared to invest in MOBE yet….oh well. Its all about the Benjimans in the end.
OK thanks for letting me air out my thoughts.
So he keep picking losers, and now he claims his own stuff is better than any of the losers he kept picking.
Should you believe him?
HaHa if you believe that etc…..
I don’t know anything about Zac Crawford, but most people in network marketing will make money on making OTHER PEOPLE believe in various IDEAS.
The Zac Crawford I found on Youtube claims to have made $500,000 in 2014 (so I have probably found the right channel). The video has 71 views = rather ordinary result for a guy with 1,600 subscribers (it looks like most of his motivational videos are ignored by most people, even by the subscribers).
His “3 steps”: (Zachanisim 24)
Zac’s idea was that you should study it and learn it yourself, and then teach others how to do it. So you shouldn’t feel too attracted to the idea of letting others do the follow ups. You should offer that yourself if OTHER PEOPLE are attracted to ideas like that.
The “excellent style” is simply that he’s repeating types of ideas people already are familiar with and already believe in. 🙂
But he has of course trained himself to present those ideas. He has probably used skills he already had and have tried to gradually improve them. He has probably added some new ones too.
For MOBE, you can simply look at the conclusion part of the article. We have seen many “Top Tier Business Opportunities” come and collapse. People simply can’t afford them for any extended period of time.
Matt Lloyd is obviously missing some parts himself. You should probably follow Zac’s second advice about “real knowledge, rather than income promises”.
From my point of view, Zac’s advices are fair enough. I only watched one video. But it looks like he’s using something that is fair enough to attract people into something different (based on your description). That’s not a very successful recipe.
Neither one of your “potential mentors” seem to “have it” (whatever that “it” is). They both have “something”, i.e. they both have something to offer but not necessarily worth paying for. None of them seem to be worth “joining” in a role where you will need to pay them.
What has this guy proven other than not being able to identify a viable long term business or build a residual income of his own?
What has this company been able to prove as track record? Did you know that the most successful people in direct sales, who have had the most long term income with one company, started well after the company proved itself a little? I think I heard that the average was 5-7 years after inception?
I started 15+ years after my companies inception and I probably earn more RESIDUAL income than people who were first into all the “empowers” and “pureLeverages” of the world combined.
If the company is any good at all. It ABSOLUTELY does NOT matter when you start so why on earth do people take the chance on unproven companies lead by people who have proven ONLY that they can build an income that is temporary at best?
There is probably less than a dozen companies who have EVER proven that they can produce positions with residual income. Of those, there is only one or two that keep growing consistantly.
Its really not some big secret. Its not rocket science. The only reason you would not just go with one of these proven models is 1. That you have bought into the COMPLETE BS that you have to be early in to create something substantial
2. you are being lead by the nose by people who only have THEIR interests at heart.
3. You are looking for this mythical shortcut that is often promoted but DOES NOT exist. There has only been ONE WAY a residual income in networking has EVER been produced. There is only ONE WAY it will EVER be produced and that is to WORK for it.
Most of you could be earning $500K a year by now with all the time and effort you wasted trying to avoid what actually works. STOP trading common sense and solid opportunity for a pipe dream just because it resembles a little honest effort.
Which guy are you talking about? “This guy” was a little vague. 🙂
According to the article, MOBE was founded in 2011. Matt Lloyd will probably be the right one to answer questions about track record.
“Zac Crawford” was the guy I was referring to. Sorry I didnt use the quote tool.
The “track record” question from me is actually a rhetorical one. If its top down, percentages and levels, its the same success rate as any one else who does it. Somewhere in the range of 0.02% to 3% who earn an income above operating expenses, and a 97% attrition rate measured over 5 years.
Sorry to put you in a box like that Matt Lloyd. I definitely dislike when people do it to me.
I am open to hear and believe something to the contrary but I have not seen a top down model YET, that has shown otherwise.
I looked at him partly from “Taking It All In”‘s point of view, partly from my own.
I’m not a fan of the idea of joining a guru or a mentor, other than to pick up some information and ideas from one of many sources. I’m not exactly a “follower” type, and I’m not attracted to that idea either.
Compared to Empower Network, Zac Crawford had his feet on the ground in the video I watched / a quick look at his blog, e.g. I looked at whether he had genuine questions from users and provided genuine answers, or if it mostly was about “promoting”. He actually passed that quick test = it was a certain balance between genuine problem solving and promoting.
It seems to me, that anyone who is involved in MLM should be persona non grata.
They are social parasites, starry eyed cult followers who ‘harvest’ their circle of friends and family. To what avail?
MOBE/MTTB is now using DMCA take down notices and they are attempting to use trademark and copyright law to shutdown my review of them.
Only proves the idiots are indeed, idiots.
Aussie law on fair use in copyright:
You must reply to it within 24 hours, in a specific way (certain requirements). I can probably find those requirements.
The Takedown notice itself must also meet certain requirements to be valid.
U.S.C. 17 §512 (g)(3)
Oops, that was Copyright Law. I haven’t checked any requirements for trademarks. But a DMCA takedown notice to the service provider is about those rules mentioned in §512.
Hey Oz, K Chang,
MOBE is now closing, blocking people’s accounts now. youtube.com/watch?v=Ze2KLOGEVeY
Thanks for the heads up! – https://behindmlm.com/companies/top-affiliate-claims-mobe-stole-60000-from-him/
Sweet, Thanks Oz. I’ll check it out 🙂
I did join the MTTB program and exited a few steps in.
I see it as a cleverly designed pyramid scheme which has lots of retail products to mask the reality that it’s all about affiliate sales.
If you want evidence of this take a look at the natural selling guy on youtube who tells how they call up people to sell them onto the next level. You won’t hear a single product mentioned.
People have made money out of this, but i have ethics around how I earn my money hence I pulled out.
You do get a stack load of training at MTTB level you can watch so one could argue this is worth it, but overall you have to spend big and i see many potentially losing out…
In the blurb for MTTB product on a MOBE site, he claims
So those regular people are paying in varying amounts as they slide down the (black hole) funnel -15K is not unusual- for a total of $2 million a month.
We should all be out there recruiting as hard as we can go so we can be a part of this big money exchange.
Sadly, for the vast majority, they will never recruit well enough to retire with MTTB. They are selling the dream- nothing tangible.
Another wrong thing done by these parasites of MOBE. Steven Bransfield hired a bunch of kids to work for him in Miami.
One of the most important requirements was that they should be between 20-28 years old, which is illegal to discriminate older people. And what is worst, they hired some kids with no legall rights to live and work in USA.
I can prove that easily. Any recommendation to stop them and sue them?
Why would you sue them as a private citizen?
Short of reporting it to the relevant authorities with the evidence you claim, don’t think there’s too much you can do.
Tip via email:
Sounds like MOBE has quite the illegal worker racket going on in KL.
Steve Bransfield hired several kids to work in Miami FL USA. Two of them were relocated from Texas without checking legal rights:
Jesus Dominguez, 20 years old (see his fb). facebook.com/JDominguezzz13
Isaac Huerta, 20 years old instagram.com/isaachvega/
Matt Lloyd (founder of MOBE) is back in action with another scheme called “Turnkey Business System”, which is very similar to MOBE.
And just like he did in MOBE, Lloyd is again selling “business educational courses” ranging in cost from $2500 to $10,000+.
They also have a $50 “entry level” for some 20 hours of course study.