Mister Colibri admit “there are no advertisers”
Mister Colibri, one of Seven Rings International’s recruitment scams that operates out of Brazil, claims to offer their members weekly payments if they watch advertisements.
Mister Colibri also pays large commissions for the recruitment of others to the company.
Upon examination, these advertiser videos are in actuality little more than random videos pulled of YouTube, which the company embeds into its website and requests its users watch.
The basic idea being that along with membership fees the company charges, commissions are in part paid out by revenue the company earns from advertisers who pay Mister Colibri to have genuine end-users (consumer) view their ads.
Unfortunately for Mister Colibri their members aren’t complete morons and the discrepancy between what the company claims and the fact that they are just using random YouTube videos (one particular Levis jeans commercial featuring Rob Liefeld hasn’t aired since the early 1990s), hasn’t gone unnoticed.
When pressed, it appears Mister Colibri management finally had to confess to their memberbase that infact the company at this stage has no commercial agreements with any of the advertisers featured in the ads Mister Colibri uses.
On February 16th 2012 Mister Colibri member ‘Abimael Oliviera’ (English) writes
I have investigated enough to Mister Hummingbird, made contacts with advertisers who are the videos of Mister Hummingbird and they really have no business relationship.
I got a PIN and my registration as a member of the site Mister Hummingbird on 1/12/12 (I live in Salvador-BA) to know the step by step.
On 17/01/12 I attended a mega event in Vitória da Conquista where the founder of Elia Prisco and his partner in Brazil Mr. Gian (owner of OMNIA Advertising), and various leaders.
To my surprise all the questions I had about the business, or needed to ask were answered. Mr. Gian explained that we are still pioneers in innovative design (with 46,000 affiliates) (and that) any advertisers would be interested in weight by a small group only when a few million members come into the business by injecting lots of money.
The Ads posted in the office of Mr. Hummingbird’s are there to create a community accustomed to watching ads and getting paid (innovative project in the world).
They really are videos available on Youtube (for now) and are in the public domain.
The single point to take away from the above comment is that Mister Colibri has no advertiser relationships.
This is significant because it means 100% of the revenue generated by the company is from membership fees the company charges new members.
At present we have the situation where Mister Colibri are offering significant commissions for the recruitment of others, entirely paid out by the membership fees of new members joining the company.
Or in other words, an obvious pyramid scheme.
On the legality of this, Oliveira appears to be grossly misinformed,
By the way, the advetisers seen in the videos do not yet have business with Mr. Hummingbird. It is not illegal (against the law of any country) display videos as it does not sell any products or services and with their respective brands.
We are only paid by the system itself (do not forget that the accounts are renewed annually) and the investors’ money with the founder of Elia Prisco.
Admitting that members are only paid out by the system itself (membership fees), Oliveira appears to be under the impression that there is nothing wrong in publicly claiming members get paid to watch ads by advertisers, when this is a complete misrepresentation of the business.
Furthermore, paying out 100% of recruitment commissions from membership fees!? I don’t care where you’re from – that’s about as certifiably a scam of a business model as you can get.
The AdMatrix is another of parent company Seven Rings International’s scams that was launched in India and collapsed (read: Seven Rings International ran away with everyone’s money) after a few short months of operation.
Even going so far as to share the same website source-code, the AdMatrix and Mister Colibri are identical scams.
Noting this, Oliveira explains that
regarding the Mister Colibri site’s similarities with the AdMatrix India, it is because AdMatrix belongs to Mister Hummingbird.
The platform of the company was bought and Information Technology (IT) for $2 million with a maintenance fee of $80,000 a month.
The site was adapted to the needs of Mister Hummingbird, and millions of dollars were invested in high-performance servers to deal with the magnitude of data that is processed daily.
With both companies owned by Seven Rings International, we already knew they had the same owners. Although Mister Colibri don’t directly own the AdMatrix, both companies are owned by parent company Seven Rings International.
Mister Colibri’s management revealing that the company has no advertisers is hardly surprising, short of the revelation itself. Thus far Seven Rings International have maintained that all their MLM companies are legit because membership fees aren’t the only source of revenue.
With the admission that there are no advertisers however, clearly this is not the case and Mister Colibri (and the AdMatrix before it) simply boil down into hybrid pyramid schemes (recruitment commissions) and a Ponzi Scheme (redistributing membership fees (the investment) amongst members under the guise of them watching ads and being paid by advertisers).
Seven Rings International’s largest scam to date, Speak Asia, operates out of Singapore and is currently under investigation by multiple government agencies in India for fraud, money laundering and tax evasion.
Speak Asia operate slightly different to the AdMatrix and Mister Colibri in that, instead of watching YouTube videos, members are required to fill out surveys the company makes up from random Wikipedia articles and articles sourced from various free online article directories.
Speak Asia have always maintained that they are paid by clients who purchase market data off them by the way of surveys Speak Asia’s members have completed.
Initially, after being pressed on who these clients were, Speak Asia’s management released a few company names. Shortly afterwards, every publicly named company Speak Asia named denied to have any commercial relationship with Speak Asia whatsoever.
Releasing they’d given the game up, Speak Asia immediately issued a public apology for lying about their clients and then went on to claim that in the few days that had passed since they’d been caught out lying, the names of their survey clients had gone from being freely given (albeit false) information to competitive secrets that could only be revealed by a non-disclosure agreement (NDA).
To date, not one company has been publicly named as a survey client of Speak Asia.
Looking at the bigger picture, with the AdMatrix, Mister Colibri and Speak Asia all coming under the Seven Rings International umbrella, and Seven Rings confirming that Mister Colibri (and thus the AdMatrix) are pyramid schemes with no actual clients, it’s looking more likely than ever that the same is true of Speak Asia.
Especially when you consider the nonsensical common argument put forth by Speak Asia members that any criminal liability as a result of what Speak Asia may or may not have done, is negated by the company’s future plans.
- I’m a big fan of seeking out the simplest answer and if we considerthe similarities between Mister Colibri, the AdMatrix and Speak Asia’s business models (in that members perform a task the company gives the impression is “legitimate work” being paid for by a third-party when it isn’t)
- the fact that all three companies are owned by the same parent company
- that 100% of the commissions paid out by Mister Colibri and the AdMatrix are revealed to be derived from membership fees
- no survey clients of Speak Asia’s have ever been named that weren’t lies
- Seven Rings has previously lied about its advertiser clients the company claims to have had with Mister Colibri and the AdMatrix
A pretty strong case emerges that, despite what Speak Asia may or may not have presented to the authorities, infact the company does not have any survey clients.
This of course means that like the AdMatrix and Mister Colibri, 100% of Speak Asia’s commissions are thus paid out by membership fees – meaning that it too shares the same pyramid/ponzi scheme hybrid characteristics of the AdMatrix/Mister Colibri business model.
One would hope any such survey client list submitted by Speak Asia to any authority, much the less the general public and their members, was thoroughly investigated… as it stands, apart from ‘but the company said they have clients’, there isn’t a single argument or scrap of evidence lending any credibility to the existence of even one survey client belonging to Speak Asia.
Isn’t it interesting that Mister Colibri will go ahead and ADMIT there are no clients, while Manoj Kumar just keep hiding behind “NDA”, i.e. “SpeakAsia have clients but I can’t tell you who they are”?
I guess some Brazilians got more balls than some Indians.
Hilarious irony:
Accusing the EOW and Media of lies at any opportunity, whilst simultaneously believing whatever bullshit Speak Asia management feed you without question or independent verification.
Cult mind control, Oz. Steven Hassan’s BITE model explained this quite clearly. Only those also in the group can be believed. Everybody else is against “us”.
Forgot the addendum to Manoj Kumar description, here’s the full version
“SAOL have clients, but I can’t tell you who they are.”
(trust me on this, while I hide abroad and avoid the cops.)
I think Mister Colibri and Manoj Kumar are one and the same person.
Manoj could fool the Indians who live in a dream world far from reality. Manoj could make these idiot Indian panelists fight in Courts for SAOL, but Brazilians were too smart for him.
For that reason Mister Colibri/Manoj Kumar had to close shop with just 60,000 members enrolled in Brazil compared to 1.2 million in India. If only the investigation departments and Courts in India would not take so much time (it is coming to year despite cases upon cases in High Courts of AP, Mumbai and the Supreme Court) in nailing SAOL, Interpol would have been hot on the heels of Mister Colibri/Manoj Kumar along with Haram Khor while their coterie of COO, Bahirwanis, Anjus, etc. would have been behind lockup.
Now let us see what amount of demand is raised by Retd. SC Judge Lahoti on Feb 23, 2012 and what action SC takes when SAOL is unable to cough out the money.
This is a forum for a healthy discussion. We have a problem and we are talking about it. Let that go on. If you set an abusive path, the above sample should be sufficient for what all can come next. It can just keep flowing.
One more scam operated by Tulsient and Seven Rings – around 2005, 2006
mangouniverse.com
mangouniverse.com is developed by Manoj Kumar’s company and as you can observe in some links Rajiv Mehrotra is a contact person.
Conclusion: These people have done a lot of practice before executing a scam like speakasia
I forgot the links
Tulsient address
Rajiv Mehrotra and mangouniverse
Sometimes pages are in languages other than English so it does not shows up clearly. These types of scams are operated at global level and in different countries. A collective effort may create awareness.
Source:- http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_speakasia-panellists-accuse-eow-of-harassment-move-court_1652796
Oh dear.
How do you direct attention away from your personal involvement in the largest ponzi scheme ever run in India?
Accuse the police of exortion.
Bahirwani and co. appear to have sunk to entirely new lows.
And I love the membership numbers. These guys just decide they represent every panelist and without any consultation it is so?
Hilarious.
Ah well, we’ll see how it goes on the 23rd. Nothing stopping these guys from submitting whatever rubbish they want in court – I mean hey, Speak Asia are submitting business models they never used in affadavits… why not lead by example.
Or this could be a pre-emptive strike on their part to make EOW hesitate to arrest any more people up and down the food chain.
I’ll guess the article in dnaindia.com (Daily News & Analysis) is related to WRIT 3210 and 3211/2011 ???
It begins to be hard to guess which case the different actions or statements are related to, since Speak Asia seems to be in court several times each month. 🙂
WRIT 3210/2011 and WRIT 3211/2011 should be up for hearing and final disposal 22.02.2012. This doesn’t exactly sound promising for Speak Asia. Maybe that’s why AISPA has started some actions now.
Being harassed by the police?
Some of them seems to have been booked in a criminal case already, and it wasn’t related to unwillingness to pay. As far as I remember, Melwyn Crasto and Ashish Dandekar was arrested for some money issues (some different money issues than unwillingness to pay the police).
Let’s not forget Bajpai and Mehrotra have also been denied anticpatory bail multiple times now, also nothing to do with unwillingness to pay police.
norway
the writ mentioned in the article is the aispa criminal writ in the mumbai high court [writ 3611 of 2011].
it is up for hearing on the 23 rd of feb.
FINALLY one newspaper takes a view from the other side.
i think some media are now recognizing ,[after attending court cases] the truth of the matter and how things are leaning in favor of saol.
bajpai and mehrotra have been denied bail in andhra not mumbai. this writ is against the mumbai eow and for quashing of khosla FIR. besides they are company officials not panelists.
there should be good news coming in over the next week or so.stay tuned.
Still, it seems like an average week for Speak Asia. 🙂
21.02.2012 SLP 7509-7510 /2011 – Supreme Court
22.02.2012 WRIT 3210-3211 /2011 – High Court of Bombay
23.02.2012 WRIT 383 /2011 – Supreme Court
23.02.2011 WRIT 3611 /2011 – High Court of Bombay
2 or 3 quashing of FIRs or something similar, and one hearing in the Supreme Court related to payment. Nothing important, just an average week in court as far as I could see.
I also enjoy the love/hate relationship panelists have with the Indian media.
One minute they are accusing everyone of lying, the next heralding them as heroes and showering them with thanks.
This is the same DNA that labelled Speak Asia’s business model a pyramid scheme only a few weeks ago:
It’s quite comical to watch as an observer the sheep run from one end of the spectrum one day to the other the next.
Nothing Important? 🙂 Norway
All above dates are very important for us & worthless for them (Like soapbox & shampoo box). The whole thing is stuck between monies issue as SpeakAsia would like to pay us & we desire to collect from them. Your undeveloped idea will not alter the mentality of other individuals.
You have accepted the old news of same DNA then how could you ignore today’s news? – Soapbox !
The true fact is that, you guys look forward to hollow out negative information & we are expected positive news for rapid relief. One hopeful piece of writing will wash down your hundreds analysis of untruth stories, as Anju’s enlightened.
It wasn’t published when I woke up this morning, so no conspiracy theory there.
Bahirwani and friends can submit whatever they want in court.
1. it doesn’t change Speak Asia’s business model, nor the fact it’s a pyramid scheme
2. without a ruling it’s pointless discussing said allegations… it’s just he said she said.
But please, don’t let that stop you declaring ‘ultimate victory’ or whatever you lot are referring to the DNA article as.
It was only mentioned because it had SpeakAsia involved. If an alleged criminal countersues the government, newspaper will report it.
Despite fervent wishes of some panelists, the newspaper does not take sides or switch sides.
@ Oz,Kasey,Norway..
Well..Well…it looks like the culmination of all the build up of the Court cases for SAOL in the last 9-10 months..this counter case..by AISPA on behalf of 2 million(Panelists and Sub Panelists).. is a direct attack and indirect threatening to the Govt. Agencies Investigating the SAOL Cases.. It is but a tactical move by Kumars,Bhairwanis,Mehrotras,Bajpayis for a very strong reason..to move the limelight. Don’t know what exactly might be the reason that it was done at such a crucial juncture of the cases.
@Arvind
Of course all the dates are important. You can’t just jump from 20. February to 24. February.
I was mostly talking about the list of court cases, not the dates themselves. Most of the cases seems to be old cases from 2011, and I thought most people had lost interest long time ago.
A quick overview indicated “an average day in court”, so I didn’t bother to check any details.
-> Norway,
You have mentioned all dates of hearing in BOLD letter & without more ado you have eliminate DATEs with LISTs ?
So, what is the new subject? Each & every member knows all raw investigation was started on last year & about to end this year.
At the end of the day your emotions move towards personal interest of us (panellist). Ah, most people’s interest evaporated long time back.
That’s why thousands of people before now donated his/her soul towards saol and constantly connected with his / her positive thoughts at face book to individual blogs for the entire period of nine months.
So, your part edge blogs will not pull through or mislead our attention.
Do all Speak Asia panelists think the world revolves around them or just this guy?
I could give a flying toss where your attention is… honestly. These people are in such a bubble it’s near tragic.
You guys continue your popularity contests on Facebook… I’ll stick to analysis and discussion.
SpeakAsiaOnline Deposited Rs. 50 crore in Supreme court Registry
@Arvind
It was actually a LIST, even if some of the text was bold.
And it’s still a list, even if I have added some info:
21.02.2012 SLP 7509-7510 /2011 – Supreme Court
– quashing of Criminal proceedings, CID / State of A.P.
– unknown result
22.02.2012 WRIT 3210-3211 /2011 – High Court of Bombay
– quashing of FIR, Thane/Raigad
– Next date: 14.03.2012
23.02.2012 WRIT 383 /2011 – Supreme Court
– Lahoti Committee, payment issues
23.02.2012 WRIT 3611 /2011 – High Court of Bombay
– quashing of FIR
@M_Norway
Typically when Bahirwani and co can twist something to sound positive they release an update within an hour of the hearing.
If not then they go quiet and hide. This has pretty much been the case with every hearing regarding Speak Asia thus far.
Hopefully the orders for the quashings are published sometime today and it’ll be interesting to see how the Crasto writ and 383 go in court today too.
Here is the latest order of Supreme Court, No Judgement, instead SpeakAsia has deposited 10 Million US dollars and this money will be kept in 91 days Fixed Deposit on recurring basis.
Also it is said that disbursement of monies can only be done after the SC orders. It looks like this case is going to go a long way.
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O R D E R
In pursuance to the directions of this Court dated 6th February, 2012, respondent Nos. 3 and 4 have deposited an amount of US $10 million by way of a bank draft bearing DD No. 037002 dated 20th February, 2012 drawn on State Bank of India, Singapore Branch in favourof “The Registrar, Supreme Court of India” in the Registry of this Court.
Learned counsel for the respondent Nos. 3 and 4submits that this amount be deposited in a fixed deposit for a period of 91 days initially with the UCO Bank, Supreme Court Compound, on an auto renewal basis. This request seems to be reasonable and we order accordingly.
We also direct the Secretary General of this Court to invest the amount today itself in the UCO Bank, Supreme Court Compound for a period of 91 days on auto renewal basis.
With these directions,this application stands disposed of. However, it is made clear that the disbursement of the amount would be subject to further orders of this Court.
Learned Additional Solicitor General undertakes to file an affidavit.. She may do so within a period of two weeks. Reply, if any, thereto be filed within two weeks thereafter.
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Full order can be viewed here
http://courtnic.nic.in/supremecourt/temp/wc%2038311p.txt
Is it me or did the SpeakAsians basically admitted that SpeakAsia and MisterColibri are completely linked by now, that they started posting SpeakAsia updates here?
In their new video, they are stating something like “the company owners are using their own money to pay the members’ LP’s; advertisers will join later” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gME5htLDCnk
Their own money? Their own money comes from membership fees!
And they are also saying things like “we just paid US$ 1 million in taxes” and “we’re gonna rent a 500 square meter office in São Paulo”, as “evidences” that the business is solid.
Sounds like Speak Asia 2.0…
Would like to receive more news about the whole thing…