Rutherford: Rippln dead in the water
We initially raised our suspicions in December after observing weeks of abnormal silence from the company. Abnormal because, up until that point, it was all anyone could do to escape the roar of the Rippln hype-machine.
Never mind the fact that there was never any real clear business model, commissions were in the pennies and most of the world were unable to participate in what little Rippln were offering.
In response to the question “has Rippln done a runner?“, CEO Brian Underwood spoke to Troy Dooly (MLM Helpdesk) and issued the following comments:
[2:38] I said Brian you’ve been silent, what’s happening?
He said “what are you talking about, it’s Thanksgiving. Some of us left down and went to Thanksgiving prior, some afterwards
We’re still conducting business. Matter of fact we do two calls a week, that isn’t being silent.
Now we haven’t done blog posts and stuff. I can’t win for losing, with you or these other critics.
If I make too much noise, you guys tell me I’m hyping this stuff. If I don’t make any noise cuz we’re working, then we’re “running” or we’re having a eulogy or some crap like that.
Here’s the video that was published at the time, it’s eleven minutes long but worth watching before we get into what was really going on:
Update 31st July 2021 – The video referenced in this article has been marked private as of July 2021.
As such I’ve removed the previously available link to the video. /end update
Believed to have been published sometime over the last twenty-four hours comes an email from Rippln Master Distributor Michael Rutherford. Initially appearing to be sent to his “team”, it wasn’t long before Rippln affiliates began to circulate it on the company’s Facebook page:
Rutherford begins by acknowledging “it’s been a while” and patting everyone on the back for doing
an absolutely phenomenal job building Rippln coming out of the gates.
You guys and gals broke every record that existed in this industry, and we caused a genuine viral storm unlike anything that had ever been seen before.
And then we get into what Brian Underwood should have told Rippln affiliates months ago:
This is what happened with Rippln.
Even though we did a lot of things right coming out of the gate, there were still a lot of challenges happening behind the scenes that were very difficult to solve with the team & operating budget we had.
In hindsight, which is always 20/20, Rippln truly needed a $3-5million venture capital budget from the start, along with a lot of other resources we didn’t have to really have it’s best chance at succeeding.
We came incredibly far with our technology, working with what we had, but as is often the case in technology start ups, success is more about “iteration” then it is picking a product off a shelf & selling that for years to come.
We found many flaws with the model, & it required constant change & development to continue to iterate the model to perfection.
Unfortunately, Rippln lost it’s financing capability to keep going in the Fall of last year, and without proper financing there was no way to continue to build out the technology to get it to a mainstream worthy product.
Fall puts us squarely in November, which is around the time we noticed things had gone quiet. Why Underwood used the cover of Thanksgiving to hide behind and was not upfront about the reality Rippln faced, I cannot say.
No doubt Rippln getting slammed with a trademark infringement lawsuit in late December didn’t help either.
If I may, I maintain that all of this is still just the result of initially wanting to launch with what was very obviously a recruitment-driven pyramid scheme model, being told by lawyers that it wasn’t a good idea and then running on nothing but hype fumes for almost a year and then inevitably losing your financing.
It’s no secret that from the initial compensation plan Rippln put out, the bulk of revenue was clearly going to be generated inhouse via affiliate fees. After that was exposed for what it is, why they decided to keep on going is anyone’s guess.
Perhaps it was the ‘over $2,000,000 of their own money‘ Rutherford claims the owners and investors of Rippln put into the company.
Talk of blue-ocean, “never been done before” and all the other nonsense… anyone would think mobile apps were something groundbreakingly new. At the end of the day Rippln wanted to charge participants hundreds of dollars to participate, and reward them for encouraging others to pay hundreds of dollars.
When that fell through, it turned into creating the mirage that this was all part of the plan and that they were somehow navigating unknown territory.
Right.
Looking forward, one would assume it’d be time for Rippln to admit what they initially wanted to do was likely illegal, close up shop and move on.
Not so.
Rutherford explains that, if Rippln are able to secure more money, something called “Rippln 2.0” will launch and attempt to ‘be the CLOSEST model to what excited everyone from the beginning‘.
That model of course being the aforementioned recruitment scheme.
I will update you as soon as I know more, but for now, I thought it was important that you knew what was going on so you could make plans for your own lives & businesses accordingly.
Rutherford himself seems to have moved on, making some subtle changes to his own Facebook profile.
Here’s what it looked like in December 2013:
And here’s how it looks today:
In closing his team email, Rutherford writes:
The best part of Rippln for me was getting to know all of you in a deeper way, & the relationships that were forged.
I consider that an HONOR, and I’m very thankful for it, & for your courage to step into the unknown & dare greatly.
I would do it all over again in a heartbeat if it was the difference between never going for your dreams because of the risk it may not work.
There are no guarantees in life. Cowards sit on the sidelines. And no one can say that about all of us.
Hopefully this update brings a little understanding, and I’ll follow up again as soon as I know more.
If “cowards sit on the sidelines”, I wonder what Rutherford has to say about people who sell thousands of affiliates on a business model they failed to check the legality of beforehand, launch anyway on hype fumes (charging everyone $30 a month or whatever along the way), and then wonder why it all eventually comes crashing down?
Maybe Troy Dooly can call him up and find out.
To date I haven’t seen any official announcement from Rippln acknowledging their financial status, nor anything addressing the recent trademark lawsuit bearing down on them.
Somehow I doubt people who didn’t sign up to Rippln are feeling like cowards now.
If I may, I’d like to finish up with some Troy Dooly words of wisdom:
[00:58] I know this is just what you guys want to hear, right? I actually like Brian Underwood, we’ve become friends.
[01:18] I believe in building the relationship with people. Can that bite you in the butt? Well heck, I learnt that with Zeek Rewards, didn’t I?
But there’s a time when you take the risk and build relationships, and that’s what I’ve done here.
You guys know I work for some of the investors in Rippln and I’ve had a phenomenal time getting to know them. And getting to know the people like Jonathan Budd, like Russel Brunson, like Michael Rutherford and Brian Underwood – people like that.
[1:56] I’ve gotten to know them very well and learn who they were as people.
Do I always agree with them, do they always agree with me? No. But we’ve built a relationship.
When I call and ask questions I get straight up answers… now I wish more critics would do that.
I have to say that whilst I completely respect Dooly’s approach to MLM news reporting – I think I’ll continue to stick to observing what these “people” do, as opposed to what they say they’re doing.
Whether or not Underwood disclosed to Dooly their financial problems back in December I don’t know, but either Dooly wasn’t given “straight answers” as he claims or he was and for whatever reason (the interests of Rippln’s investors, who he “works for”?), Dooly chose not to share this information with those who read his blog (which includes Rippln affiliates who were paying the company $30 a month).
Personally if I walk outside and see that the sky is blue, that’s what I’m going to publish. The hell do I need to call up Brian Underwood and have him tell me the sky is green for? And worse still, publish what he says when I can easily observe that the opposite is infact true with my own eyes.
We obviously didn’t know Rippln had lost its financing but it was loud and clear in November that something was up.
Chalking it up to Thanksgiving holidays? What a farce.
Update 19th January 2014 – Information from BehindMLM reader Glimdropper suggests that the email might have been first sent out by Rippln co-founder Jonathan Budd:
That was written by Jonathan Budd, the sick self serving prose is a dead giveaway. It was originally send only to j Budd’s personal downline but got reposted elsewhere.
After it had gotten out Rutherford stripped part of the greeting and the signature from it and has made no effort to dissuade people from thinking he wrote it.
Still no official word from Rippln corporate.
Troy Dooley has a very charismatic and optimistic persona – and absolutely no credibility. If you believe his narrative – that he’s been generally blindsided when these MLM ventures fail – then you’ve got to admit he’s not very perceptive. Clueless might be closer to the truth.
What’s really disheartening is that he always touts these MLM insiders in such glowing terms – as ‘great people to talk with’ or describing how he had a wonderful time meeting with them or that it was an honor to ‘sit down with’ so-and-so.
I’d like to believe that deep down Dooley has a good heart and really believes he is helping people. But even if he does not outright lie, he really is presenting a false assessment of these business people he covers.
Sure, it’s human nature to be taken in by a great sales pitch initially or to want to believe that people are generally good and would not intentionally deceive you to their face. But can a self-proclaimed “MLM expert” really be that gullible?
Dooley’s been around the block and should know better. These pitchmen are NOT good people with good intentions. They have dubious business ethics and have found a way to get people to part with their money – along with, unfortunately, a mouthpiece to tell their story.
Troy Dooly gets criticized by a lot of people in a lot of places and some of it may not be deserved. However there is one thing I really wish he’d consider. The best interests of the affiliate field force is not always the same interests as the people who hire him to do consulting.
Troy says he was never hired by Rippln and I take him at his word. He says he was hired by an investor in Rippln which really makes me wonder what the advice he gave was. I really hope it was keep your money in your pocket but I digress.
The fact is there were red flags around this company from day one, a slim few of them were only partly remedied but other new ones took their place. Correct me if I’m wrong but the balance of Troy’s coverage of this company did not reflect this.
I understand that Brian Underwood is a personal friend of Troy’s but that shouldn’t excuse anything. Troy did better than six videos about the company and several were transparent puff piece promotionals yet when he was confronted with information which ~may have~ warranted scrutiny he didn’t take time to cover that.
The facts as I see them:
~More than 1/2 of the $30 monthly membership fee is paid to the upline of the person paying that fee.
~About 1/2 of any “App Share Catalog” upgrades were paid to the upline of the person paying them.
Neither of those would have stood regulatory scrutiny and yet they were the primary revenue stream for the company. Mr. Dooly was made aware of this.
~Almost three months after the launch of “App Share” not a penny has been paid to the affiliates and it’s questionable if it ever will be. The first payment was due the 15th of this month and that payment was to be for downloads performed in the month of November.
Rippln continues to pretend they have relationships with multiple app publishers and the reason they can’t pay is that they haven’t been paid. The truth is the only relationship they have is with an app marketing company named AppLift.
AppLift has affiliate relationships with many companies and I’ve seen no evidence that they have defaulted on their obligations to any of them. It isn’t difficult however to suppose that perhaps Rippln was less than completely honest as to the source of their ability to drive downloads. AppLift’s TOS Generally forbids incentivized downloads and when they are accepted (by expressed permission) they pay much less for them. Yet Rippln claims their download “bounties” were much higher than industry average.
I don’t pretend to know the whole story there but have been saying for months that it doesn’t add up and now, they haven’t paid out. There was a full month built into the billing cycle to “validate” downloads. This months payments were to have been for November’s downloads. When did Rippln learn there was going to be a problem?
For the record there has been no official word from Rippln about this, or anything else.
We all know which side of Troy’s bread gets buttered. He consults for and cavorts with MLM company owners. I in no way wish to belittle the good he does for MLM affiliates, I just wish he’d done more of it for Rippln affiliates.
And Troy, if your reading this (and you will) do you still have any obligation to that investor? If you do your advice should be to call for an independent audit and have an attorney look over the investment contract. If these people really did piss away two million they have precious little to show for it. I’m not saying money WAS misappropriated I’m just saying it’s a very legitimate question.
As long as he’s disclosing that he’s actually working for the companies he writes about, then he’s on the right side of an ethical line.
I’m seeing it from some type of “professional viewpoint”. I will indirectly defend my own different roles by defending some opposite types of roles. It will look more “acceptable” to be a critic if I clearly can accept some opposite viewpoints.
I checked his website for “core fields of expertise” when he promoted Zeek. He seemed to have had some intentions initially about building up some expertise, e.g. by adding different articles. But he has changed that idea, he’s producing a more limited range of material.
I believe he should redefine his role to what he really is, whatever that might be (he must be able to find out about it himself). It’s not easy to live up to the role as an “MLM expert”. “MLM veteran” should be much easier to live up to and reflect, but he will need a better idea than that.
I’m using different types of ideas. It’s much easier to produce something if you don’t have any specific role you will need to reflect.
“Hired by another investor in Rippln” can only be LaCore, unless you think there’s another investor in Rippln that can afford Dooly’s fees. In fact, Dooly himself said Terry LaCore invested in Rippln.
And looks like the plug got pulled, and Sugar Daddy left town, to abuse the cliches.
My problem with Dooly is the fact that if he truly wants to be considered voice of the affiliates, then he CANNOT consult for the companies, who’s clearly on the “other side”. The fact that he did consult with Zeek, AND did not disclose such, really was a severe conflict of interest. Then there’s this Lyoness thing…
You see Mr. Dooly you were wrong again. We told you and you never listen Zeek rewards all over again.
They knew sense last fall they had failed. But they kept promoting and selling AppShare, Watches, programs that never worked. They also kept collecting $30 per month and $199 for AppShare.
Are we suppose to feel sorry for them NO! When we commented on the Rippln page they banned us and called us negative and disbelievers with no vision. Blue Ocean Strategy they didn’t even know what that is.
They sold a great concept that had never been done before. Yeah thats called a Con with record of 1.4 Million marks to show for it. They broke records. alright. Where is Brian Underwood now? He left Michael Rutherford holding the bag, nice guy Brian…
It was a message originally sent by JBudd. And Rutherford took credit for it.
Extract from my mail:
one of M Ruterford’s ‘followers’ have posted a solution to this mess! Just need a dollar people 🙂
**REPOST below from Ripple Mania**
still laughing at that 🙂
If I had the time or inclination, I would find examples of where supporters of the Zeek Rewards, AdSurf Daily, Banners Broker and TelexFree scams made similar suggestions.
That’s the problem having followers believing in a dream. They will continue to believe in the dreams that initially caused the problems, rather than trying to wake up to the reality.
If the problem had been “lack of money”, they wouldn’t have had any problem at all. The fact that they have been drained for funds show a different problem than “lack of money”. Throwing MORE money into that problem won’t solve anything, it will fuel the dream but it will not create any results.
Rippln was a combination of some leadership ideas and some ideas with some types of substance (gamification, communicator app, etc.). The last type of ideas should have been the core business idea. As it was, the leadership ideas only made it become worse. Followers failing to wake up will make it even more difficult.
You can potentially throw in some leadership ideas and make a good project become better, but you can’t do the same with a failed project.
On a brisk Sunday morning I smell a class action lawsuit wafting through the stale air in the works.
At the very least, the participants should have the prospect contact names in the Rippln database released to their rightful owners.
I can try to analyse Rippln briefly for where it failed, separated into leadership ideas and business ideas. I’m not familiar with the details in the project, so it will be vaguely described in most points.
Initially it revolved around a communicator app, where people could have an updated view of their own ripples, and be able to communicate with people in their ripple via the app. That idea would have failed technically, it would have required too much resources when the number of participants had grown.
* The app sharing idea was a part of the same idea, a long term method to monetize on your ripple. It never took off.
* The pay to play concept was a part of the same idea, the main short term method to monetize on your ripple (but also long term through monthly fees). It would have become a pyramid scheme.
The “sell to your ripple” was the new idea they released when the pyramid scheme concept was dropped. It would have required some consumer ideas to work. Rippln as an idea should probably have been abandoned here.
All the ideas applied after that point can be ignored. Adding new components to a failed project won’t do any good.
I have only read indirectly about “Vision Casting” and some of the other ideas they used. It won’t make much sense trying to analyse that part.
Leadership ideas had SOME effect right from the start, the effect was reduced when it failed to deliver within reasonable time, and some ideas also had negative effects in the long term.
Ideas like “winners don’t quit, quitters don’t win” only made them less able to make good decisions. That idea will drain people for resources if the basic business idea is flawed.
Business ideas should revolve around realities rather than dreams, e.g. technical solutions to some existing “needs and wants” in a market. A technical solution will need to focus on technical qualities rather than on “talking it into existence” ideas.
“Selling the Dream” business ideas can revolve around selling the dream, but other business ideas will require different sets of ideas.
They have mixed two different sets of ideas. Leadership ideas have prevented the from making good business decisions when needed.
Rippln failed right from the start, by being based primarily on “Selling the Dream” ideas rather than on solid business ideas.
Dear God In HEAVEN!
Rippln was DEAD in September! The Weekend At Bernie’s (Brian’s) they’ve been able to get out of it since then is nothing short of INCREDIBLE!
Now MR. RIPPLN says it’s over and the sheep are STILL begging to send MORE money to be pissed away! “PLEASE! We still have more to give!!!!”
I’ve seen it ALL!
MOVE ON YOU MINDLESS IDIOTS!!!
Some might find themselves tempted to write statements like this off as speculation, after all none of us have seen their books so how do we know? But those people would be wrong. This statement fits all available facts in a way that no spin doctoring company update ever could.
IF cash flow was the only problem here the last thing Rippln leadership would have done was go radio silent. They wouldn’t have stopped the twice weekly recruiting calls and Saturday Google hangouts. They wouldn’t have gone from several blog posts a week to less than one every several weeks and company leadership would still be showing us their smiling faces on frequent YouTube videos.
IF cash flow was the only problem they’d have tried to recruit their way to profitability. But they didn’t, two months ago they came as close to throwing in the towel as they could while still collecting monthly membership fees.
I can’t claim to know what the specific problems were but it’s easy to see the general problems. They never had a realistic business plan. All they had was a pile of buzzwords and catch phrases, some loosely related new age speak and marketing mumble.
That may sound great from a conference room stage or webinar but there is no “see the dream alive” function on a spreadsheet.
If they spent $100K total, I’d be surprised. There’s not one thing they did which wasn’t borrowed, budget, or made up.
I had similar conclusions, but from a different perspective. If the basic idea had worked / been released “just in time”, the cash flow problem wouldn’t have existed.
The method I used was “briefly analyse the failure”. It may contain some valuable experiences they can use, and analysing it will also help them conclude that project and move on to the next
failureproject. 🙂They will need to do something with the mixture of different ideas. They CAN use “Vision Casting” if they’re selling dreams, but most business ideas will require other types of ideas.
Just simply speechless REALLY? Are there really stupid people like that around. Thats the definition of a “SUCKER” truly through and through.
I have a $1 dollar where do I send it? We need an app for that or a pill. 😀
That’s one of the reasons for WHY I’m critical to some of the leadership ideas. Some people may actually BELIEVE the project could have worked if they initially had more money, and may try to find solutions to put more money into it.
I tried to identify WHERE and WHY it failed, but I’m not familiar with all the details. A correct explanation should normally help people to move on to their next projects (or failures).
If you do it correctly, e.g. from their viewpoint rather than your own, then people should normally accept ideas if they make sense, even if they don’t like the ideas. But it won’t work if people strongly believe in something.
Look at this …
“Lets show the world we ain’t quitters” is reflecting some types of leadership theories, but that idea is too commonly used to be identified clearly.
“Entrepreneurship” is also too commonly used to be identified. But we CAN identify that he’s primarily focusing on his own ideas and belief system, trying to motivate himself and others to DO something to make it work.
WHY he’s doing that is relatively rational = he believe the problem is about lack of money (he’s clearly focusing on that type of solution).
What I can predict is that he will not be looking for logical explanations. He want reflections of his own dreams, where his entrepreneurial spirit helped hin overcome obstacles and brought him the success he truly deserved. 🙂
Thanks BehindMLM.com!
I found this site when repeatedly quoted back in September 2013 via the https://behindmlm.com/companies/rippln/rippln-ceo-apologizes-for-failed-expectations/ post.
I HAVE had fun dishing on Rippln – but the truth is, I just wanted people to avoid getting further screwed by these crooks.
I truly hope this is the beginning of a death nail for Rippln. It NEEDS go go away for good.
You’ve done an excellent job of holding their asses to the fire – and I GREATLY appreciate it!
If I have understood it correctly, they HAD a communicator app ready in May or June 2013, but it wouldn’t be able to handle the massive load of growing ripples?
If that’s true, I would have recommended them to re-think their own ideas for what an app like that really need to do. It makes it sound like they had too complicated technical specifications.
I used the “lets show the world we ain’t quitters” and “entrepreneurial spirit” to create some contrast to technical solutions. Entrepreneurial spirit will be the wrong type of solution if the problem is about something technical, and you will need to reduce the ambitions you initially had to make something work.
That’s one of the factors I don’t like about the leadership theories reflected in Rippln. They are too onesided, and will almost always need to involve some motivational aspects. The “talk it into existence” idea will probably MAKE some projects fail because of too high levels of ambitions.
“WHERE AND WHY IT FAILED”
I separated it into “business ideas” and “leadership ideas” in post #12, with brief descriptions for some parts. That method should normally allow you to look at individual parts separated from the others.
I looked at some of the leadership ideas in post #18, to be able to identify how they potentially can have affected some business ideas. And then I looked at a technical solution in this post.
Technical solutions:
Technical solutions should normally belong in the group “business ideas” rather than “leadership ideas”, i.e. we can’t “talk them into existence” or motivate people to make them work. The communicator app seems to have been heavily affected by wrong types of ideas.
For that part, it’s the leadership ideas that needs to be corrected, they can not be applied to each and every area in business.
Sale and marketing:
For me, marketing and sale will belong primarily in the group “business ideas”. We may be able to talk some sales into existence, but there’s something wrong if that’s the only idea.
The leadership ideas will need to be corrected so they clearly can identify where they shouldn’t be used.
Look at the realities. Most types of sale and marketing will simply not need a high level of motivation. It’s an idea people might have, but it doesn’t reflect the reality.
CONCLUSION
We don’t really need to analyse each and every detail to understand something. I recalled some details from memory in post #12, looked at an example I found right in front of me in post #18, and added a few more details in this post.
If people really want to protect their own “Vision Casting” ideas, “winners don’t quit” and “entrepreneurial spirit”, they should probably add something about how to improve them. In this case, ideas like those seems to have had a negative effect on the results.
I believe one of the basic problems in Rippln was ‘wrong types of intentions’, right from the start.
It seems like people intended to start a business project that would reflect themselves and reward themselves, based on self development ideas rather than on business ideas. And Rippln did exactly that, it reflected flawed ideas and the type of rewards they reasonably could expect.
Rippln didn’t fail to deliver. It delivered exactly what they could expect it to deliver. The RESULTS were simply reflections of the ideas, decisions and actions.
Most selfdev gurus will tell you exactly that, and recommend you to follow specific ideas in the programs they have to offer, where you eventually can become financially successful if you manage to convince enough others about the same ideas.
If YOU fail, they will blame you as a person for not following their instructions. You have either failed in your own ideas, your attitude or your actions. “You simply didn’t follow the instructions. ANYONE can make it if they follow the instructions to the letter”.
If THEY fail themselves, they will blame the lack of financing, negative reactions in the market, too complicated technical issues, unexpected problems, “the market wasn’t ready for us yet”. “NOBODY would have managed to succeed, we had all the right ideas, attitude and actions”. They will also have some new projects not yet released where everything will work.
Brian Underwood:
Rippln as a project clearly reflected life as it really is, rather than how people prefer to BELIEVE it is. It reflected that life itself only can accept visions for a short period of time before they start to fade, and it will not accept attempts to force it to reflect anything other than the realities.
I’m always amazed at how easily people get bamboozled. If anyone spent time to check the background of the founders that in itself is a red flag.
Then, there is no product for a company that touts apps, no business model, no revenue model. — really people. I notified the press and various other organizations about this company. I knew right away they were fraud.
The founders knew it was fraud. They are the kind of people who want to make $ off the backs of gullible people. They feel entitled and have no remorse.
I suspect that most people that make up those huge numbers were not scammed by Rippln financially. Their membership that they display is really nothing more than tracking a chain letter world wide.
Since there was no cost initially with a promise of financial reward its obvious how it garnered so many people passing the chain letter on so quickly.
The people that got scammed were the ones that saw that growth and then bought into the monthly fees and truly thought that there were over a million people interested in really building a business.
I’m sure there are several thousand people in that camp and for them it is a real scam. I suspect that there is little infrastructure or substance behind this shell game.
Its too bad because things like this make it much harder for the legitimate companies out there.
Looks like Rippln co-founder, Jonathan Budd is onto his next scam. On his Facebook page, he is hiring a copy writer to sell his next con. Pretty sad…These guys all belong in jail, enough already! I will follow and expose his new scam.
futuristicmarketingllc.com/jobs
To be fair I’ll give Rippln credit on their marketing efforts (dunno how much of that was Budd personally). Unfortunately though you can’t run an MLM business on marketing efforts alone so I hope they’re upfront about that.
I gave J Budd one of my throw away email addresses last year just so I could see his spam. The dude really does need a new copywriter, his old stuff is pretty much too boring to bother reading.
I did click on his “The Reptile Who Eats Your Money” message just in case it was a confession. But if he thinks I’m going to click on a video link titled Johnathan Budd’s Self Love Paradigm he’s got another thing coming.
Not enough eye bleach on the planet to wash that image off the screen.
I worked with Mike Rutherford in Izigg he is nothing but a fraud. He stole half my downline to Ripple with fictitious claims he has no credibility wonder how he is going to scam people again.
Can’t think of anyone besides himself he has helped to make money. Short on funds look out people on his next hoax
You may like to watch his “motivational video” in post #6 in another thread.
The link (under the user name) goes to a comment 10-15 posts later in the thread.
He compared Rippln to a ball game, with star players (himself), ordinary players, fans and spectators (paying to watch the game, paying for his star salary).
This just in from Rippln Co-Founder Jim Bunch:
Anyone want to lay odds that Rippln keeps it’s “doors open” just long enough to charge February’s membership fees?
Or perhaps, scam mastermind, inner cadre, judas goats, and sheeple may be a bit more accurate.
Thanks to Angel and Littleroundman for also publishing the Jim Bunch announcement above. Glim was the first to publish it so I marked the other two as duplicates.
His own version was more than enough.
He likes to see himself as the star player (among a few other star players). He also see some ordinary players, but all the others will have to be the ones paying for the game.
His primary focus was on the people he truly love and admire = he, himself, “the one and only”. Other people are mostly a “grey mass” (except for the money they bring in).
I knew Rippln wouldn’t last. It seems to me that the man behind Rippln wasn’t gay but a cool guy.
So the man lacked a sugardaddy because most of these schematically drawn out money schemes will not flow unless you give some to a man or you’re just in the secret mix of club runners.
I thought this was a good app but it seemed too good to be true, to be paid ONLY for influencing people to download apps? Like the big boys get paid for?
Unless you’ve developed a game and are good at getting people to play your own game, you will NOT be the god of download earnings.
Many affiliates who have apps, are doing something with their apps other than connecting the users who are already influenced by content providers.
I feel like Rippln should have made it but in this world of same-sex relations and hatred for many who oppose, you will find that if the man would have had a boyfriend, he would have made it well. I see how the world works. Sorry bro.
So it looks like these “masterminds” are now behind a company called Pruvit and pushing a health supplement called Keto//OS.
Same players, same marketing strategy, same live events and same talk on conference calls and videos. Could it potentially have the same end result as Rippln?