Polaris Global Marketing claims internet full of lies
Nobody seems entirely sure at this point whether or not Polaris Media Group is actually going to go ahead with the name change to Polaris Global Marketing.
The Polaris Global Marketing website has been showing the Drupal maintenance splash page now for a few weeks after briefly appearing live for a few days.
Having said that reader ‘I was scammed too’ has informed us that a new website, Polaris Global Facts – Due Diligence has gone up and it refers to Polaris as Polaris Global Marketing complete with new logo. Polaris Global Facts accuses the internet of being full of “misleading information and accusations” in regards to Polaris Media Group.
Of course following this bold statement at the top of the page is then a series of “misleading information and accusations” from Polaris Global Marketing itself.
The website ‘Polaris Global Facts – Due Diligence’ runs off the domain duediligencepgm.com and was registered by Polaris Global Marketing CEO Shane Krider himself on the 27th March. The domain was last updated on the 1st of April 2010, which is presumably when the site went live.
…on April Fools day no less.
The first claim Polaris Global Marketing makes is that it is being prevented from conducting honest business by sites such as the Ripoff Report. Krider “alleges” that the founder of the Ripoff Report, Ed Magedson is “in hiding, under pursuit by the FBI with tens of millions of dollars in judgements against his company“.
Polaris Global Marketing provides no proof of these allegations nor where it sourced the information. I had a look around and found nothing more then disgruntled business whinging about the fact they were unable to directly serve Magedson with law suits.
I’m not saying whether the allegations are true or not but I do think if the FBI was after this guy then his website wouldn’t be around for too long.
Lack of proof aside, directly attacking your critics by associating them with criminal activity…
It should, it’s got all the hallmarks of Scientology’s Fair Game Policy. Shane Krider announced last year that he is a member of the church. Surely if the defense policy is good enough for the church then it’s good enough for a church member’s private business.
Following the attack on Magedson is a series of accusations that Krider has attempted to address.
1. Polaris held some type of strange ceremony at an event where people were shaving their heads
I couldn’t help but have a laugh at this one as I’m not entirely sure where Krider has lifted this “accusation” from. Try as I might I was unable to find any information on the internet linking Polaris Media Group or Polaris Global Marketing with a strange event involving shaving heads.
It was well known that the hair shaving was part of the charity event “The World’s Greatest Shave”. This was first mentioned by BehindMLM reader Jane back on February 27th, 2010 along with a link to a media article.
If anything, the claim that the shaving event was linked to reports about a Polaris Global Marketing “strange ceremony” seems to be nothing more then a reason to mention the charity event on the website.
2. Polaris changed names to avoid obligations and regulators
I’m assuming this is in reference to Polaris Media Group changing its name to Polaris Global Marketing, and not the name change from Liberty League International to Polaris Media Group.
Krider asserts that the reason for the name change was because
the new name identifies the company’s new focus into Media Production and Educational courses for Entrepreneurs.
Now as far as I know, whether it be Liberty League or Polaris Media Group, the company has always provided what it calls “educational courses for Entrepreneurs”. As far as I know the only change is the focus into “media production”.
So what… is Krider expecting anyone to believe that the name change from Polaris MEDIA Group to Polaris Global Marketing is someone a reflection of the company’s new focus into media production?!
I’m not saying the name change has anything to do with regulators but I find it hard to believe removing ‘media‘ from your company’s name somehow better conveys your new direction in media production.
3. Polaris hastily came together as a result of regulator pressure
Again I’m assuming this is referring to the name change to Polaris Media Group and not Polaris Global Marketing.
Krider challenges this viewpoint by stating
Polaris was planned and privately funded over a year in advance of its opening. Media was in production for 12 months prior to the company’s launch.
Over 50 original video featurettes and clips were available on launch date or had been published on the web prior to the launch event.
Polaris Media Group officially launched on September 9th, 2009. If it was in development for 12 months prior to it’s launch why the hell did it launch with a back office in shambles and half the product line missing?!
Why would you even bother to announce the new company until these issues had been resolved?!
It couldn’t have been because the New South Wales Department of Fair Trading was breathing down your neck could it?
As for “50 original video featurettes and clips” about Polaris Media Group being published prior to and on the launch date, sorry what?
At best I remember four or five clips being promoted heavily on Youtube with the drums and big grey text flashing by set in space and that was about it. Did I miss something or was there a whole bunch of other clips released I never saw?
4. The Polaris home income opportunity is a pyramid and a scam
This accusation is hugely debatable. Recently Polaris Media Group held it’s top of the line $16,000 conference in Macau China. Attendance has been estimated at around 150-170.
Out of those 150-170 I’d love to know the numbers of true retail customers, ie. those with no involvement in the business opportunity of Polaris.
Going even broader I’d love to know the percentage of current customers (those that have made a product purchase in the last 3 months that wasn’t the ‘Know For Yourself’ $5 dvd ), who are genuine retail customers.
Given the only repeat consumables Polaris sell are it’s conferences and only 150-170 rocked up to their deluxe event, either distributors numbers have dwindled considerably or the vast majority of attendees were Polaris distributors.
Why is this point important?
I’ve always maintained that the problem with Polaris’ business plan is that the money isn’t in it’s pseudo retail products but rather in recruiting others to the business opportunity. They then recruit others, who recruit others and so and so forth. Sound pyramid’esque enough?
If you just rely on the measly commissions of the retail products you’re simply not going to get anywhere within the company and you can forget about any “six figure income”.
I’ve yet to see this point challenged in an official or unofficial capacity by Polaris Media Group itself or any of its current or ex distributors.
5. Polaris is party to numerous legal and regulator actions
I don’t know about numerous but a public notice put out by the NSW DoFT while the company was still trading as Liberty League is pretty hard to ignore.
6. Polaris is a front for The Church of Scientology
Krider asserts that
POLARIS remains neutral with regards to the political and religious views of its members and leadership.
This seems to fly in the face of revelations that then Polaris EMC members were publicly encouraging Polaris distributors to join them in attending Scientology courses.
Polaris Ex-EMC member Elena Fraga quit the company shortly after the Scientology link was made public. Among other things, Fraga later wrote
One fact that I can share here is that I was asked by the leadership of Polaris to take courses at the Hubbard School of Administration. I was told that they would help me on my leadership role in the company.
I was told that I needed to improved my Communication Skills and I needed that course I paid it as requested but I did not go. I cancelled at the last minute.
I did not know, at that time, that the Hubbard School of Administration is actually part of the Scientology Church.
I completely stand by what I originally wrote in response to Fraga’s alarming revelations;
What is clear here is that the direction Polaris leadership are taking is to get their EMC members along to Scientology courses, without any disclosure about the fact the course is run by Scientologists.
When asked to go into more detail, specifically about the change over to Polaris Media Group she cites confidentiality agreements that allegedly all EMC members were required to sign. This is a far cry from the apparent transparency in which the company name change occurred that Krider alleges in points 4 and 2.
The list of accusations finishes with a quote from Gregory Strom, stating that
Polaris video and written course products have consistently avoided any particular political or religious belief system as a matter of company policy, and will continue to do so in the future.
Strom is credited as being an “author and producer” of the “Polaris product line“. I’m unsure if this means he’s the sole author and producer although I assume not.
Strom is credited himself on his website as being a”multi award winning editor and director”. Absolutely no mention is made of Polaris Media Group or anything to do with personal development.
Regardless one needs only to look at the fact that Shane Krider himself is a Scientologist. Forget about any opinions you might have of Scientology itself, Polaris Media Group sell, by their own admission, personal development products.
Does it make any sense that if the beliefs and educational matter found in Polaris Media Group’s products didn’t align with Krider’s own personal beliefs which are tied to his religion, that he would approve them?
Think about that for a second.
We’re talking the equivalent of a Christian going and teaching Muslim beliefs at a Muslim school or vice versa… Of course that’s only a valid metaphor if the values found in Polaris’ products do not align with the personal development tenants, beliefs and values found in Scientology.
If they do, well then it’s a bit of a stretch to claim that Polaris’ “products have consistently avoided any particular political or religious belief system“.
As usual, the information put forth by Krider and Polaris Global Marketing is easily refuted and seems to contradict itself on multiple occasions.
I do agree with Krider however that there certainly is a lot of misleading information and accusations on the internet about Polaris Media Group…
…good thing that there are those doing something about it.
If anything, the claim that the shaving event was linked to reports about a Polaris Global Marketing “strange ceremony” seems to be nothing more then a reason to mention the charity event on the website.
haha I couldn’t agree more. That’s exactly why he added that.
Some upcoming events I’ve found on another website (will these be canceled too?):
August 2010 – 1 Day Foundation Live – Sydney
December 2010 – 3 Day Sovereignty Live – Canada
March 2011 – 1 Day Foundation Live – Las Vegas
May 2011 – 5 Day Influence Live – Tahiti
Despite the dismal turnout at the their last event (point 5 in your blog), they’re still obviously very confident they can turn things around with Polaris Global Marketing.
Stay tuned aye…
Krider, demigod? Please!!
Oh, you poor, small people… Don’t you have nothing else to do than write such a silly articles? By the way, what’s your name, mr.author of this really amusing bunch of crap?
Anyway, good luck in life because you clearly have some serious issues…
Poor little Paul seems to be one rattled little person. As someone who enjoys Oz’s style and content, as well as the fact that he is providing excellent well researched information for those who might be tempted to fall for the scams out there, I find his pathetic bleat extremely amusing.
$cientology sucks, and sucks it’s victims dry and it’s great to see them squirm sometimes. Go Xenu!!
Apparently Beyond Freedom Evolution has won something called a “Telly Award” which I find interesting because it is only 1/3 completed. How does a product even get nominated when it’s not even halfway complete?
I looked up Telly Awards since I never heard of it
Looks like an award that up to 25% of all entries win. And, you get to pay for the trophy.
Seems to fit into this category of “claims” that are really “lies.”
The source? http://www.TeamDynasty.info which seems to have lots of marketing that borders on deceptive.
This popped up on my radar on Tuesday. I plan to write about it on the weekend in a more general sense.
Apart from 7-10% of all entries winning a silver (which is what I believe Beyond Freedom won), it’s worth noting that the Telly award judges are selected from the previous years winners. Details of all the judges are kept secret unless the judges themselves choose to reveal their names.
Entries are also open, there are no requirements or criteria for submission eligibility.
Speaking of avoidance, it is curious to note that Rachel Oliver has two Facebook pages. Rachel Anne Oliver is in a relationship with Shane Krider. Her original page was just Rachel Oliver.
Also interesting to note she died her hair brown. Think she’s trying to escape some notoriety?
Hey folks. I’m writing a wikipedia about this but don’t have all the info. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris_global_marketing If you can add anything that would be great. Cheers
Well that didn’t last long, Wikipedia have already deleted the page citing
From memory Liberty League International were banned from Wikipedia after repeated amonts of excessive editing by company associates. I imagine it wouldn’t be too long before the same happened to a Polaris Global entry.
I’m ashamed to admit that Rachel Anne Oliver co-founder of the Polaris Media Group with (married)Shane Krider is pregnant with his child, happens to be my daughter.
Rachel turned into a pathological liar in her early teens due to illicit drug abuse. I disinherited her many years ago & apologise to all for her total lack of ethics, morals, principals & conscience.
If I’m able to assist those hurt by my daughters’ actions please contact me via this website. Rachel has managed to thus block every avenue on the net to warn vulnerable folks against her scam enterprises.
Should this attempt fail to expose my daughters’lies, I’m left with no other choice than to use unblock technology.
Being related to Rachel, I was wondering if you had any information on wheither or not she’d joined Scientology to be with Krider. Being her mother you might be privvy to some inside information.
I believe this has never been clarified publicly by the Krider or Oliver.
I’m also curious as to what this ‘unblock technology‘ is?
G’Day Back Oz,
Rachel was christened with her brother Joel Anthony Oliver in the Blue Mountains, Springwood, Church of England 1976. I’ve only hearsay via the net that she joined Scientology to be with Krider.
I disinherited Rachel after discovering her Liberty League lies on the net re: Being born & bread in Sydney – Her false allegations of me being an alcoholic who physically abused her.
Further, she left home for 2 weeks because her father insisted family protection rules must be followed. She then returned home and received full support from me – including family counseling for her drug addiction: Abortion of a boy child because of illict drug use.
Drug induced schizophrenia from which Nepean Hospital, Blue Mountains NSW, specialists had grave doubts that she’d recover.
Rachel DOB December (date removed) 1974 – Wollongong Hospital.
Raised (street address removed), Warilla NSW 2528 until six moths old. Then (street address removed), Faulconbridge NSW 2776. She was never born or bred in Sydney.
Being the middle child, Rachel manipulated to be the centre of attention. She’d induce extreme eczema break-outs by exposing herself to long sun-baking & extended hot showers – even ultra-violet sunlamp episodes. There’s plenty more privvy info if you want it – just ask!
Her very ill grandmother – DOB: Feb (date removed)/1922 Mabel Rosie Grace Vance has not heard from, or seen Rachel for many years. No cards, no flowers, no presents, no visits.
Again I apologise to everyone hurt financially by my daughter. Please believe she destroyed me emotionally by her conscious use of heartless, scam tactics.
I saw this post whilst searching for something else and I got sucked in.. it’s like a soap opera! So now I feel a compulsion to put my two pennys worth forward.
Having lived in Sydney for some time I must admit that I have no idea where Warilla is and am not sure about Faulconbridge (I think it’s a suburb in the Blue Mountains?) so it is no wonder ‘the accused’ (Rachel) generalised and said she was born and bred in Sydney.. what’s the big deal??
To be honest, I find this whole post a little disturbing – Why does someone’s own mother feel it necessary to post such personal information on a site like this (no offense Oz) even if her daughter is such a disappointment to her?
Alcoholic or no alcoholic, this seems to be a very strange way for a mother to behave… If her comments are true her daughter certainly sounds like she was a disturbed and unhappy child – I wonder how that all started?
It’s certainly abnormal for a mother to be so spiteful towards her own daughter.
It’s not really privy if you’re so willing to share it. Your behavior is terrible. How could you go on a public forum and write about your own child like that?
You should be ashamed.
Australia converted to decimal currency Feb 14, 1966. Prior to 1966 the correct phrase was ‘twopence worth’ (phonetically – tup’ence). Further to improve your ignorance, Little Lake Crescent, Warilla is commonly referred to as ‘Millionaires Row’ in the municipality of Shellharbour.
Google to confirm my parents home & to improve your ignorance CS.
THE BIG DEAL IS CS: Rachel conned & scammed many, many people from their hard earned dollars. Obviously you were untouched: NOT HURT FINANCIALLY by her numerous exploits or umbrella companies.
At least I hit a cord in what you referred to as being “like a soap opera!” That’s what Rachie (family name) thrives on!
What a profound assumption CS! Rachels’ many Specialist Counselors found Rachel self-destructive.
They also wondered why Rachel self-induced illicit drugs & ended up in a hospital psych ward, unsure if she’d recover from severe schizophrenia. That was very SAD CS.
Please do more research before writing your two cents worth in this space. Ignorance comes back with facts. If I’m able to save one person from wasting their money with my honesty then I’m relieved.
Facts are facts! Lies are lies! Rachel convinced so, so many people to go into debt THAT IS WHAT “is terrible”.
Obviously, armchair critic, you weren’t financially hurt or devastated by my daughters cons / scams.
Of note you chose to cut & paste ignorant quotes from CS. SHAME ON YOU for not doing your homework. RESEARCH before making a fool of yourself again.
My ‘behavior is terrible.’ By publicly exposing my daughter, Rachel Anne Oliver as The Queen of Cons and Scams, hopefully I’ve save millions of vulnerable hopeful fortune seekers from investing in any of her & her lover Shane Krider, father of her second child, umbrella companies.
Your ignorance conveys your copied rhetoric. In future submit something worthy of publication.
I don’t know Rachel, and I was never scammed by her, and I have no reason to stick up for her. And I’m not coming to her defense. However, I am definitely criticizing you.
How did you expose her? You didn’t post examples of her scamming people. You didn’t list one instance of Rachel conning people. Instead, you publicized the actions of a troubled child – and told people that you had more info if they would only ask! You’re a tabloid mom.
If Rachel is as terrible as you and others say; well, she’s a product of your parenting. Apologize all you want, be as sanctimonious as you’d like – I don’t buy that you’re doing this to help others.
@Victoria Vance – Rachel Oliver is a master manipulator….. and it seems she learned her substantial skills from you. I don’t think you posted on here to expose your daughter….I think you did it out of spite.
No good parent would ever “expose” their children the way you just did, by writing about the behavior and activities of a child who was obviously very troubled.
I was scammed by Polaris, lost a lot of money. I can’t stand Rachel or Shane or the Molinas or any of their scam artists…. I hope they all go to jail. But Victoria, out of that whole group you just might be the worst. Not in scope, certainly, but in pure meanness and spite for sure.
Your apology is as empty as your heart, and I won’t accept it.
To The Above 3 Respondents:
A very old Oz adage, ‘I bet a penny to a pound’ that your computer IP is identical. Your genera is almost verbatim! Although, ‘Wow!’ you seemed to have done a little research.
Educate yourself: stop making further idiotic blurb.
Hereafter I’ll will treat your comments with the contempt they deserve – zero relies!
I have often wondered about the mindset of someone like Rachel who seems to have no scruples when it comes to enriching herself at the expense of others. The old adage “like mother- like daughter” comes to mind.
I even find myself having a little sympathy for Rachie and her obvious search for some self identity. She may have an opportunity for redemption, especially with a new baby, but I fear there will be none for her mother.
I can confirm that this is not the case.
Descendant of Boris Karloff I presume. Master of disguise & horror – the mask suits you!
PROFILE: You’re short, obese – a couch potato. You waste time watching Dr. Phil daily. You haven’t progressed to viewing Judge Judy.
Save your sympathy Boris, Rachie found her own identity many years before I disowned & disinherited her.
Progress to Judge Judy Boris: Her findings may be above your comprehension initially: Stick with Judge Judy – you just might learn more from her than Dr. Phil. Get educated Boris.
It’s overtly obvious, given my comments are placed last, at the bottom of listed posts, despite date of comment, “Behind MLM …Polaris” has a network in place.
Why have, now 4 people wasted time responding to old news?
I accept your confirmation – Computer IPs differ!
These 4 respondents should spend less time listening to Dr. Phil! Judge Judy is far more informative on the realities of family problems.
Team networking has substance when respondents broaden their attitudes.
Incidentally, three respondents blocked my comments! Perhaps, Boris: March 8th, 2011 at 8:35pm: After receiving a cryptic reply – as deserved – will do likewise!
Uh…. comments are listed via datestamp but are subject to moderation at times. When published they should appear using the original datestamp showing the time they were originally submitted.
And what… you’re claiming I’m in cahootz with Polaris now because of the order your comments are appearing?
…Now I’ve heard it all.
What do you mean three respondents blocked your comments? Do you know how comments on a blog work?
I have met Rachel… sorry to say once I had stated that I was “uncomfortable” with borrowing (yes borrowing) the $25,000 she said I needed to do to ‘commit’ myself to my business – well I was basically ignored…. they are out to rip you off…;
interesting is that I found out they are not all earning the money that they tell you they are and I have never felt more inferior and unsuccessful as when I was with Polaris… it eats away at you… fortunately I kept my normal job and now at least I can walk down the street and know I don’t rip people off…
don’t do this!!!
I knew Rachael Oliver personally. She was doing well in the now collapsed Liberty league. I witnessed how she conned many people out of there hard earned money and even had them borrowing against and even selling their homes to get involved. From what I know of her, it is clear she is prepared to destroy peoples finances to serve her own purpose. She lives a very high life on other peoples savings or borrowings by offering them false hope through these Multi Level Marketing companies also referred to as MLM’s. Ideally in business a Win Win situation is the goal, good for all parties involved but if your thinking about getting involved with Rachael Oliver I am warning you in the strongest possible tone that there will be only one winner.
If this saves just one person from loosing their money then it has been well worth posting.
It does still exist, as Polaris Global Media PGM. It has held a very low profile after the collapse in Australia in autumn 2009 / winter 2010, but it still has some [put in your own favorite medical expression here] a couple of places in Australia.
The last reports we got about it from readers were around March 2013, when it planned a marketing event in the UK in late April 2013 (posted in another thread).
So it’s currently only active in 2 countries, Australia and the UK. We don’t know anything about HOW active it is.