OneCoin whitepaper author regrets getting involved, admits mistake
Remember Marcelo Garcia Casil?
He’s the guy OneCoin hired to write a blockchain whitepaper back in May.
Given it’d previously been all but confirmed OneCoin didn’t have a blockchain, Casil’s appointment generated significant interest.
In the aftermath of the whitepaper announcement, Casil confirmed the work he did had nothing to do with OneCoin’s “existing IT”.
This seemed to further confirm OneCoin didn’t have a blockchain.
However less than a week after that exchange, Casil (right) pushed out a decidedly conflicting statement:
In recent days there has been publicity on the Internet suggesting that I have questioned the existing technological capabilities supporting the OneCoin cryptocurrency.
Any such suggestion is false and misrepresents my position.
If this statement sounded forced it’s because, by Casil’s own admission, it was.
I carelessly replied to questions on LinkedIn and Twitter about Onecoin, and in doing so I risked breaching my NDA, so I had to make that statement.
Now once again the story has changed, with Casil going on the record to claim he ‘made a mistake and … was foolish in getting involved‘.
Marcelo Garcia Casil is CEO of DXMarkets, who now appear to go by the name Maecenas.
Since May Casil and Maecenas have moved on and are currently developing a decentralized blockchain based art gallery.
As the project gains exposure and momentum however, Casil’s prior involvement in OneCoin continues to haunt him.
In an attempt to clear the air once and for all, Casil has taken to Reddit to address the matter.
I was referred by another startup to run a tech audit on a blockchain system that another company had.
New management had joined that other company and they wanted to have an independent perspective on their internal systems.
That would be Pierre Arrens who all but in name took over from OneLife CEO Pablo Munoz.
OneCoin avoided naming Arrens as Munoz’s direct replacement by crowning him CEO of OneCoin instead of OneLife.
But I digress, back to Casil;
I tentatively accepted, and only later on learned that this other company was OneCoin.
I went ahead with the assignment in the belief that auditing a system and providing input on blockchain technology would ultimately help the wider community.
I believed it would help the people who might end up using it and do what Blockchain can do best – bring transparency.
I had the right intentions … but I realised later I was naive in this case because I had misjudged how my involvement would be misconstrued.
I acted as an external and fully-independent party and, as is often the case with auditing, I had to sign an NDA. I still have to comply with that obligation even though it means I can’t provide details that would correct misinterpretations.
The misinterpretations appear to not be whether or not OneCoin has/had a blockchain, but rather the extent of Casil’s involvement with OneCoin on a professional level.
For our part BehindMLM doesn’t consider Casil a OneCoin insider or part of their management.
He does however appear to be in a position to blow the inner workings of the Ponzi wide open to the relevant authorities – which in my opinions trumps Casil’s NDA obligations.
I delivered, as agreed, a report detailing my objective findings and made recommendations for improvements.
I was then asked to produce a new report explaining the theory on how blockchain technology is to be implemented in a centralised environment like the company’s and how to correctly leverage the benefits of the technology.
That last paragraph again strongly implies that OneCoin has never used “blockchain technology” to power its Ponzi points scheme.
I believed I was doing something positive that would benefit everyone in the ecosystem.
However, some people reacted very negatively to the news and started attacking me.
I made the mistake of responding to the trolls and very quickly my words were twisted and false stories were created and published.
I then decided to stop commenting on the subject completely.
About two weeks later, things settled down and I heard no more about it, except for the odd message from someone who bumped into the material online.
But I am aware our increasingly broad group of supporters may now also stumble across this. So, I wanted to tell the real story.
Other than additional confirmations that Casil was brought on board to explore the possibility of blockchain implementation (meaning OneCoin didn’t have a blockchain), unfortunately no new information is provided.
Casil does suggest there were plans for his company to implement a blockchain for OneCoin, but stops short of confirming whether or not this actually took place.
I did an independent audit first and delivered a report, so in that capacity I was an independent auditor.
That then led into the request for the white paper and a license for a blockchain software implementing the features described in the same document, which I also did as an external party.
Whether Casil is referring to the whitepaper or actually implementing what’s in the whitepaper is unclear.
He does however claim he has “no idea what (OneCoin has) now”.
I did the audit back in March and that was it, and as I said I’m legally not allowed to give details about it.
As to whether he was aware he was potentially assisting OneCoin management perpetuate Ponzi fraud, Casil writes;
I did look (OneCoin) up and I did find the reports, and I decided to accept the job thinking that I was doing the right thing and for the benefit of the community.
In hindsight that was a very naive and foolish thing to do, but it wasn’t so clear to me at that time. I wish I could go back in time.
That Casil now regrets “getting involved” in the OneCoin Ponzi mess speaks for itself.
As stupid as it may sound, I was fully aware of all the articles about Onecoin and the allegations of scams at the time I decided to accept the task.
I did it on the rationale that I was helping the community as the users of Onecoin were going to get greater transparency and be able to see what was going on.
My thinking was that the audit, commissioned by the new management of Onecoin, was going to result in more transparency for the community.
That was my personal conclusion based on the conversations that I had with them.
I look at it now and it seems incredibly naive, but that’s what I honestly believed at the time.
With OneCoin burying Casil’s whitepaper and there still being no evidence of a blockchain, it’s easy to see why he might be frustrated with the company.
One thing he doesn’t disclose is how much he was paid for his work – and whether any of that money was used to fund Maecenas’ current project.
Casil claims he never personally invested in OneCoin.
I’m obviously not privy to the specifics of Casil’s contract with OneCoin, but perhaps if payment was returned he’d be free to speak about the subject and clarify what he feels he currently cannot?
I wish I could be more clear and give more details but unfortunately the NDA that I signed means that I have legal boundaries that don’t allow me to express freely.
It certainly wouldn’t be the first time a third-party returned stolen investor funds upon realizing OneCoin was just trying to purchase legitimacy.
Appearing to have learnt a lesson from all of this, Casil advises others who might get involved with OneCoin to ‘be more careful about the jobs you accept, or you will be sorry – like I am.‘
Yes, I fucked up. Even the best intentions may lead to the wrong decisions, but I can’t go back in time, I can only learn from my mistakes and move forward, and that’s what I’m trying to do.
While Casil’s experience is admittedly that of a third-party contractor, his advice might present a chilling irony for OneCoin investors who care to take heed.
Important News!
@Marcelo, thanks and kudos to you for letting us know instead of hiding and lying which is synon with all who are involved in Onecoin in one way or the other.
Guess this was your biggest mistake so far in your life. Unfortunately it will follow you for the rest of your life…
behindmlm.com/companies/onecoin/onecoin-twists-arm-of-blockchain-whitepaper-author/
Oz, you should check this link, its not accessible. Strange error about Tor even when not using it: Sorry, you cannot access this website using Tor.
Works fine for me.
Working here.
I had to temp block Tor a week or so back. Will unblock some point in the future.
Fair play to Marcelo but I feel he should have gone further -what is his reference to trolls all about. Has he signed up for two (or more)
pieces of work and not just the initial review . If so why when he presumably was aware of his naivety and fucked up.
I think he should publicly give an amount of money transparently to a charity and if this were the contract price we would know what he was paid.
Don’t be a child in a grown ups world.
Story for kids.
Who exactly convince him to join OC? Juha? Ruja? Wtf?
Everyone who ever heard for word bitcoin know what onecoin means. Except Marcelo thought he could help so great community like onecoin is. For mez thats bs.
Not good for cofoundit that support his project. Jan isakovic didnt say anything bout that.
There’s a new article published a few hours ago regarding the Indian affiliate arrests.
I believe it’s a translation of an article in Hindi about the original arrests. The police officer interviewed is the same, so I’m pretty sure these aren’t new arrests.
Apparently police checked with the RBI and other financial institutions if OneCoin had formally registered an intention to launch its cryptocurrency public next year. Upon finding they hadn’t, police froze bank accounts and started making arrests.
news.webindia123.com/news/Articles/India/20170729/3157487.html
This is extremely interesting conversation between CryptoXpose (me) and Marcelo Casil on Reddit. Marcelo practically verifies what I’ve been saying is the truth as much as possible, without breaking the NDA!
(Ozedit: Reddit community private as of Dec 2020, link removed)
So Marcelo Casil is keeping the stolen Ponzi funds OneCoin paid him? Guess we will call that mistake #2.
Marcelo said he “likes the suggestion to donate to the victims fund”.
(Ozedit: Reddit community private as of Dec 2020, link removed)
It pretty much confirms that Marcelo’s stand is that OneCoin is a scam. Why else he would like to donate to victims fund.. Without scam there’s no victims..
What is it about OneCoin not having a blockchain meaning they’ve been soliciting investment funds on false pretenses that Marcelo doesn’t understand?
Dude was inside the lion’s den but doesn’t want any part of it.
Marcello–time to pay over the contracts
This issue will blight you and your business for years. I would again suggest you simply say I got a lot of things wrong and donate the money to Suicide prevention –as there are going to be an awful lot of these when the OneCoin facade crumbles.
It is slowly starting to erode an presumably will break long before the alleged IPO (see post 7 above)takes place.
Arens has already pushed it back to 2018 from mid 2017 and the insane left in OneCoin are still believers.. Just listen to Wahlross and you know what you are dealing with
Setting aside the question of Garcia Casil’s good faith for the purposes of this point, the answer to that must be no. The possibility of returning payment in exchange for the freedom to disclose confidential data would open the door to competitors infiltrating any enterprise.
Not that I like at all these business models based on secrecy. And for the record I do not believe in Garcia Casil’s good faith either, but his excuse seems defensible.
JUST MAKE IT TRANSPARENT AND SIMPLE –MAKE A DONATION TO THE SUICIDE PREVETION CHARITY FOR THE FEE(S)YOU RECEIEVED AND I DON’T CARE IF YOU NET OFF YOUR DIECT EXPENSES (EG dinner with Ruja and Pierre).
For Christ sakes grow up.
No offense but, if he had a NDA with a drug lord, mafia don, or prison gang leader, would you feel the same?
OneCoin isn’t a real business, and it’s not about cryptocurrency. It’s a gang of thieves running a sham.
His little sob story stinks to high heaven IMO.
Well there’s a vague statement if I’ve ever heard one.
he thinks he’ll be able to hide behind a worthless NDA when the criminal charges come. Most ‘contracts’ are void when dealing with criminal behavior.
Yep, given his supposed expertise, it’s either wilful blindness or IMplausible deniabilty at work.
Neither of which will do anything for his or his companys’ reputation in the legitimate crytocurrency world.
Marcelo, for God Sake sake WAKE UP!!!
Dont be so naive.When will you understand and realize that you have delt with Criminals, devious ones.
Watch your back very carefully from now on…
Absolutely, and in fact I have said I do not believe it; but his stated reason for not discussing technical matters holds.
I guess the unstated and more important reason is avoiding further damages to his reputation, already scathed by a supposed inability to see what anybody competent has always seen.
This is all about the technical aspect. Garcia Casil claims not to have been involved in organizational matters in any way, not even as an observer, and as much as we dislike the situation that point is very defensible as well.
so.. I bet.. this is how he and all skate around the “I didn’t witness anything illegal..” bs.
recall.. raja and co. continue to bleat on endlessly.. they aren’t selling ponzi points, or crypto, or even blockchain.. they sell educational packages! (useless, ripoff educational packages with a nod *wink wink* of ponzi points for coins).
that is how scumbags like raja, etc.. get by. we can now clearly add casil to the list of scumbags.. despite this pathetic mea cupa bs.
screw him.
IMO there’s nothing to win if we go after Marcelo aggressively, now that he seems to be taking distance from OneCoin.
Yes, the guy fked up. Yes, there are still questions whether his “sob story” is totally accurate. But instead of going after him, we should encourage him to be even more open, give out more information.
It’s not Marcelo we are after, and there’s nothing to gain going after him and slandering him now. But he can be valuable for the fight against the scam, if he feels he gets support from the community.
My 2 cents.
Well, I was wrong about Marcelo after all. I was hoping he’d acknowledge what OneCoin is, even indirectly. But it seems he’s just balancing between OneCoin scam and the cryptocurrency community after all.
His latest message made it clear. So, in the end, he’s just sorry that his reputation is ruined.
(Ozedit: Reddit CofoundIt community private as of Jan 2020, link removed)
Quickly done!
Soo the thread is already closed. Marcelo didnt gain anything from this, IMO.
I agree people make mistakes and deserve second chances if they do right by it. He hasn’t, and worse, he’s self-serving.
And the latest reddit comments say even more about his dance. Get a load of this:
It’s obvious he’s only sorry about his own tarnished reputation and not the people he in the end has helped scamming.
He doesn’t want to contribute to stopping Onecoin (which he of course knows is a scam) and he wants to keep the money he got from them and now (I guess) has invested in his new projects.
His “audit” and “white paper” was used to lure more victims into Onecoin. And now even his “apology” can be used in the same manner:
– He can’t say that Onecoin is a scam
– He can’t that they don’t have a valid blockchain
– He saw nothing illegal when he worked for them
– He implies that “Onecoin scams” just like “Bitcoin scams” is just about individuals using a well-known company for their own purposes and that is doesn’t mean that the company itself is bad.
And all the above can and will be used by the Onecoin apologists.
I was now short time ago talking with Marcelo. I’m not gonna post a screenshot or directly quote him, so you will just have to take my word here.
Basically he says he’s very frustrated because his NDA prevents any kind of public opinion about OneCoin, and he is afraid to be sued due to breaking contract.
He further said that he is familiar with the same information what I have seen. He said, he can’t say his opinion about OneCoin but that it’s obvious for anyone educated.
Basically, the guy is very frustrated and afraid of a law suit..
IMO he was incredibly stupid to put himself in this situation in the first place. It’s difficult to understand how a professional like him would make so fricking stupid mistake. I don’t know, but now he is anyway extremely frustrated.
My personal opinion about Marcelo has been fluctuating now quite a lot. After talking with him today, I don’t think he’s a total asshole.
Privately he makes it even more clear what his opinion is, but he’s just afraid of breaking NDA and afraid of a law suit. So this is the situation.
His sorry excuse of an apology didn’t go far enough. Not even close.
However, there were more than enough signs of his true colours:
– called those who opposed him helping OneCoin “trolls”
– stands by his statement on the OneCoin site
– accepted Ponzi funds as payment
– contradictory and/or ambiguous messages (deliberate?)
– hiding behind an NDA with a criminal organisation
He’s unrepentant. This is simply to salvage his reputation or whatever is left of it.
He should be exposed and boycotted by the community.
Personally I think OneCoin “got him”. He probably didn’t understand where he stepped into, I don’t believe he understood how huge the scam really is, how it has connections to the criminal underworld.
People have already died more or less directly related to this scam. He’s now afraid and frustrated. And he understand he made a huge mistake.
He also feels he was unfairly called a liar (my understanding is that caused his troll accusations). That episode was due to some missunderstanding and poor communication and initial shock.
(Ozedit: Reddit CofoundIt community private as of Jan 2020, link removed)
Yes, there are moral problems, like he accepting scam funds as payment. I want to believe good of him, especially because I have read also elsewhere by community members that he is in reality a good guy if you know him.
But yeah, he messed up here very badly. No doubt about that.
131 articles written by Oz about OneCoin being a scam through March this year – not counting the comments.
179 articles in the “OneCoin” category.
@WhistleBlowerFin
Marcelo, seems to trust you. So, please keep in touch with him, as a fellow human.
His awakening is very hard and serious. Hes green of anxious.
His “going public” took too big proportions. It was ment to be right but became wrong. A second time..
Who is this “jan-i” reddit, which advised him to go public?
And gerlachreport doesnt make things better.
Gerlachreport, STOP writing articles if you are not 110% sure what you write is true.
You have a great responsibilty to your readers. Dont give them wrong information.
His current venture is not much better than OneCoin. “Democratising investment in fine art”?
Fine art is not an investment (it has no yield, and one painting will never grow into two paintings). If you are going to invest in fine art then
a) you should already have a few million in a diversified portfolio of stocks & shares
b) the fine art in question should be hanging on your wall for you to enjoy (so you derive some value from it even if it never makes a profit)
c) you should have a detailed knowledge of the art world to have any hope of picking paintings which have potential for capital gain
This is basically a way of getting the financially naive to part with their cash for a cheap appeal to emotion, viz “who wouldn’t want to own a part of a Picasso”? Anyone who wants a realistic expectation of long term growth, maybe, or anyone who wants art that they can actually look at?
It’s up there with “Who wouldn’t want their own little place up in the Alps?” (for timeshares) or “Who wouldn’t want to get in on the ground in the next Bitcoin?” (ahem)
So the fact that he is trying to hang on to his ill-gotten gains to fund his current investment scheme does not seem particularly surprising.
Yes, ill-gotten – while he may not be the person who stole them, he accepted money that he now cannot deny was stolen as payment for an ostensibly legitimate contract, so ill-gotten they remain.
Does Brazil have a law on receiving stolen goods?
This story is very confusing, at the end only Casil knows the whole truth. But I’m sorry for him, if someone would ask me who are the victims in this case, I would say there is a tremendous log list of people before him and maybe some people because of him.
Yep, Marcelo was definitely used for the purpose of bringing some credibility to the company -> now the company had a developer to show and who is recognizable in the crypto/blockchain community.
Previously they were unable to give even 1 name working at OneCoin cryptocurrency technology, no CTO, nothing.
This was taught to the MLM leaders, who in turn used this information to lure in more victims.
One Life Newsletter: mailchi.mp/7d6f00c60214/jxkey6m9c9-700989?e=a0e0b3336a
If only there was a a case being argued in front of a judge that had the authority to subpoena him. Then he couldn’t hide behind the NDA. Anybody here in that situation?
I may!!!!
…and here’s why:
Chris Principe QUOTE (as touted across the internet by Onecoin and its affiliates):
RE: Chris Principe v. Timothy Curry
Principe is INEXTRICABLY TIED to Onecoin.
Perhaps this is enough to subpoena Marcelo Garcia Casil??
Good question for an attorney to answer. I’d make Skyway state under oath that the only reason why they cancelled his contract with them was because of what you wrote about him.
After all, that’s why he is suing you and you alone as he said you were the reason.
A further thought on his “blockchain art gallery”. Fractional ownership of a company (aka a share or equity) makes sense because it entitles you to a fraction of its dividends.
If I own a millionth of BP then I get a millionth of its income (about $4,600 a year), and that income stream makes my millionth valuable, along with the possibility of BP growing its business over time.
If I buy a millionth of an artwork, though, what do I get? Nothing. I can’t hang a millionth of an artwork on my wall.
The pitch is that one day I could sell my millionth for more money to someone else but why would they offer me more than I paid for something that still has no useful purpose?
That’s just Greater Fool Theory.
So how are you going to make money from investment in fractional ownership of art? Easy.
Buy up some artworks for a few thousand – from some young artists who want the money or even some of the less-well-regarded paintings by the “old masters”.
Then flog them for double the price to gullible investors who see the words “fine art investment” and “blockchain” and think they can’t lose.
This is not a new idea – it’s been pulled a thousand times with fine wine, or diamonds, or other luxury goods. Buy them at market value, then ring people up and flog them as an “investment” at double the price.
There’s nothing wrong with the diamonds, it’s just that at the markup you sell them, the punters have zero chance of making any return.
Fractional ownership is not a new concept and does not need a blockchain to record it. (Lots of people, for example, hold a fractional share in a racehorse via a syndicate – but of course racehorses have a yield via prize money.)
So what investment in fine art has to do with blockchains is beyond me. As it will probably be beyond the prospective investors.
Of course it would be wrong of me to say that Casil is doing anything illegitimate here. Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence – maybe he understands blockchain technology but is utterly clueless about finance and investment.
But he does seem to be developing a specialty in the spurious application of blockchain to investment schemes with dubious return prospects.
You wonder why OneCoin picked him in particular out of the thousands of young IT specialists who could write you a paper on blockchain.
A Cambodian monk appears to have sent a message to police warning of Onecoin scam and recruitment and calling for action.
cambozie.blogspot.de/2017/08/Onecoin.html?m=1
Google translate is shaky, but a video accompanies the article (translation would 22nd helpful):
I loved the comment by igorknic praising Marcelo above. Igor told me that since Ruja’s name was misspelled in the Indian Express Article that meant it wasn’t really her that received a sheet of charges.
He also told me that she had done nothing wrong and therefore they couldn’t file a sheet of charges against her. No, I am not kidding.
The Facebook-site of OC changed its name in ‘In To Cryptocurrency’, eleted all marketing on One Coin and is now promoting a mining pool named Bitclub…
@Anna- GTFO! Lol. Link or it didn’t happen. Hahahahaha
There’s a few “official” looking OneCoin Facebook pages. They gave their original one to an affiliate when they changed it last year from memory.
To affiliates in Sweden?
so more disinformation by OneCoin and I imagine if Sweden is involved Pehr Karlsson will have his finger in that particular pie
If any of you have videos of him selling directly to groups in English can you make contact ==same goes for Peter Shaw.
HAVE YOU NOTICED HOW QUIET THESE TWO GUYS HAVE GONE –MUST BE A REASON
thanks
The official onecoin fb-page is easy to find: it’s the one where they talk about everything except onecoin!
NDA on a ponzi scheme lol 😛
Next we’ll have Hillary getting her victims to sign NDAs
You have to remember, we’re dealing with the kind of people who tried to trademark the word “scam” to prevent people from using it on them, as well as accuse other people of violating their trademark when they don’t even own it.
(Not OneCoin, but scammers)
There are news from Ken Labine about the lawsuit of Principe against Curry. Is everything true he claims in this video?
(Ozedit: Spamlink removed)
No idea what’s in Labine’s video, but I checked the docket a few days ago as part of my routine updates.
Tayshun has yet to reply. That’s as far as the case has gone from memory.
@Santa Maria – No. Ken is an idiot.
SEE: pacermonitor.com/public/case/21058933/Chris_Principe_v_Timothy_Curry
Also, Labine posted images of muy girlfriend and my loving deceased dog on Twitter and spammed it under the PPP name “Truth Hurts.” The message was, “Miss your ex wife and dog? CREEPY!
He then made a video about my family with information that if I went to a quack Fortune Teller and that was the info they told me, I’d demand my money back and call them frauds.
Apparently, the false and ACTUALLY DEFAMATORY information came from another PPP on Twitter who goes by “Onecoin OneLife Army with the handle @OnecoinA (whom I suspect to be McMurrain)
Another frequent theme of the NEW Ken Labine profile under his real name is to ask or accuse me of being “drunk” during the middle of the day.
So I’m a “Trust Fund alcoholic” now according to what he’s published, who’s attacking Onecoin 25 hours, 8days a week, because I’m an embarrassment to the whole family and I have daddy issues, etc.
So that’s what scammers must attempt to do when they have no means of logical debate, Apparently.
I’ve backed up the videos and screen shots of the Tweets to give to the Prosecution and Receiver, once that day comes to face his victims whom he lied to since May 2015 … if not to initiate a lawsuit myself against him
Oh, oh, oh!!! The best part it’s that he’s gathering people “to file a Class Action Lawsuit against me” for “costing so many of my victims money and losses, when they could have been a part of OneLife CULT family!
And nope. I’m not even joking about this!! I already received a message tonight from some other Onecoin clown over Facebook taunting me about having to pay out $75K on default! SMH!
@ Timothy Curry
lol! So Labine adds another poor figure to his collection.
Funny thing when watching Labine’s Facebook. No one of his followers actually checks if his video is true or not, and what the pacermonitor page actually says now. The followers just like Labine’s post as braindead cultists they are. Typical OneCoiners..
I have backed up the video, in case Labine removes it.
Although Onecoin seems to be just a big scam and I lost 5k investing in it, I have to see the positive thing in it.
It introduced me to the world of cryptocurrency and I also invested money in Litecoin and Ethereum.
Made lot more money then the 5k I lost in Onecoin, never could I believe something good was to come out of the whole mess.
Portuguese OneCoin Conference this weekend. Zana hotel in Lisbon
John Barrett who fled Ireland at the beginning of 2017 following door stepping by a Reporter has surfaced again -he is involved in the Organisation of a Training Conference on Building your business to the next level(?). YOU MAY NEED TO LISTEN HARD WITH HIS DIALECT.
Authorities have been advised -particularly when two important guests are there on Sunday (Shaw and Karlsson are his uplines) and attendees (allegedly 80 or so) to address the anointed.
If you can get a video of him onstage please post and we can add to our education–another brick in his wall.
PS— Oz I am sending you the voicemail to consider posting as it is marketing and you may prefer to edit.
@Labine I would be really really ashamed if I was your daughter or wife. Your dirty behavior is disgusting.
@Tim I admire your patience when dealing with lunatics like this.
CANCELLED OR RELOCATED CONFERENCE
Just received information that the Portuguese conference which was supposed to take place at the Zana hotel has either been relocated or cancelled.
Will update as further information becomes available. So the world’s largest MLM Organisation has to have a fallback venue or can’t get the numbers in -or whatever.
I hope this mail and others sent out have contributed to this rescheduling/cancellation .. Enjoy the beach guys.
Re. Portugal and Barrett
Did the mini conference happen or not. If so anyone got some video shots cos my guess building your business to the next level is not about OneCoin education but just about pyramid recruitment.
What was the ROI for the visit? -Assuming hotel,travel and conference cots and MacDonalds about 100k or so.
With OneCoins thousand % return is that 100 Million. If not that may explain whether it happened. No idea but look forward to explanation and evidence.
ken labine has posted a video on august 5th titled ‘Ken SAYS Goodbye Youtube and Haters!!!’
he claims he’s off on vacation and wont post anything for the next 10 days or so, and even when he comes back he will reduce his video uploads.
uh, why use the term ‘goodbye’? that has some permanency to it, rather than just saying ‘i’m off on vacation, BRB’
is labine planning a soft exit?
Nah. Dude discovered clickbait a few weeks ago and is just trying to grow his YT channel.
muhammad zafar is currently in the US, holding onecoin seminars to packed houses of who appear to be US muslims.
he is currently in osceola, florida.
hello SEC??
But but but… OneCoin doesn’t operate in the US. Ruja said so!
Hang on a sec, Zafar’s Facebook location is currently Florida but are those photos of events in the US?
Looks more like the UK or Pakistan to me (look at what some of the guys are wearing in the photos).
Lulwut? Chris Principe and Tom McMurrain speaking at August OneCoin recruitment events in Vietnam?
facebook.com/DrZafarOfficial/photos/a.1388077734600201.1073741829.1383836981690943/1582572328484073/?type=3&theater
Guess those side ventures didn’t work out then.
Perhaps Principe continuing to destroy his professional reputation by associating himself and his brand with Ponzi schemes might give Tayshun some ammo in the lawsuit.
that photo could well be of osceola, florida.
it seems osceola has a large muslim population which could explain why zafar went there:
creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2012/06/11/muslim-population-in-orlando-grew-10x-since-911/
the islamic dress style is also explainable:
aroundosceola.com/town-hall-event-to-address-growing-muslim-community-in-osceola/
In his post he does say, Congratulations to onelife leaders in Pakistan.
One Life Newsletter.
mailchi.mp/27fecbdea841/jxkey6m9c9-700993?e=a0e0b3336a
Can anyone who speaks or writes Portuguese contact the local Portuguese authorities?
Some of the major Portuguese leaders of OneCoin (such as Pedro Gaitas) have moved on to the next Coin scam (W3Coin) already but if those leaders mentioned on the flyer are going there, it would be a great catch anyway.
A great new list to send to the authorities everywhere. I can’t believe he keeps promoting these crooks and scammers. businessforhome.org/2017/08/igor-alberts-and-andreea-cimbala-achieve-2-1-million-per-month/
They have already been contacted and I will post the contact details later tonight. HOPEFULLY AS MANY OF YOU AS POSSIBLE CAN MAKE CONTACT REGARDING THE CONFERENCE AND GALA DINNER.That should give them indigestion.
With the Steinkellers leaving they need to repromote in South America and will use the PortuguEse to help open up there with the cultural and language affiliations . Maybe the same will happen with Spain so it is worth keeping an eye out there.
John Barrett who opened up Ireland in 2015/16 relocated there in January this year but was involved in a weekend Conference in Lisbon a few days ago.
He may therefore be the feet on the ground in Portugal(particularly for expats) and will be involved in the administration and money management? He is ambitious and poor which is a heady combination and irrational!
Keep an eye out for him and post developments to this site and to the authorities in Portugal.
POST 72 REFER
Manuel Monteiro
Director | Trading Analysis and Enforcement Department
Portuguese Securities Market Commission
Rua Laura Alves n.º 4, Apartado 14258,1064-003 Lisboa, Portugal
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this is the contact name regarding the Conference in October and any other comments you wish to make.
Casil to cash out?
Ok Marcello. Looks as if you have decided to keep the money so I would ask others to report him to the authorities wherever he is based –is it Singapore?
They presumably can seek discovery and see what the NDA says and explore with OneLife.
What a silly boy you were.
For Marcelo a cybersecurity expert and knowledgeable Bitoinner this is clear that he took a good chunk of money and kept his NDA as long as he could. Once he was exposed then he had to find way to justify himself.
He did a photo shoot and endorsed one coin so what he is saying doesn’t sound right:
turkeyonelife.com/2017/05/12/marcelo-garcia-casil-kimdir/
That’s an obvious photoshop, not a photo shoot.
Not saying Marcello didn’t promote OneCoin but that photo isn’t your smoking gun.