OneCoin lawyer claims Konstantin Ignatov released
In recent email correspondence with Norwegian press, OneCoin lawyer Per Danielsen had a lot to say on recent events.
Per Danielsen has represented OneCoin in Norway for some time.
The earliest I was able to trace back was Danielsen claiming OneCoin had no business in Norway, despite there being at least 5000 recorded OneCoin affiliate investors at the time. That was back in 2017.
Following recent legal events in the US, namely OneCoin money launderer Mark Scott’s conviction and Konstantin Ignatov working with US authorities, Norwegian press requested comment from Per Danielsen.
Mark Scott was found guilty for laundering 400 million euros for OneCoin founder Ruja Ignatova.
The funds laundered by Scott were tied to OneCoin, and he himself was paid 50 million euros in stolen investor funds.
Per Danielsen however has a different take on things.
Ignatov has never stated that Onecoin is fraudulent. He has only testified against (the) US Attorney (Mark) Scott and stated that the lawyer must have carried out wire fraud, ie transferring money between states in the United States without permission.
It has no connection with Onecoin.
Also amazing is the claim by Danielsen that Konstantin Ignatov, who has plead guilty to four criminal counts, will soon walk free.
Ignatov is now released because he has cooperated with the prosecutor’s office in the United States.
So he is not being pursued for his position with Onecoin, and will probably soon become a free man.
Wowzers. Has anyone let the DOJ know?
While you’re at it, you might also want to let the DOJ know about their rogue agent.
Despite multiple agents publicly stating OneCoin is fraudulent and the DOJ’s entire case against Mark Scott resting on this fact, when questioned about it Danielsen replied;
You are misinformed. The US prosecutor has not stated what you are referring to.
The fact that an employee of the tax authority has stated something in this direction is not evidence of what the prosecuting authority thinks.
It is just an expression of what a random employee thinks. As unimportant as what a journalist might think, in fact.
So uh yeah, Konstantin Ignatov is on the verge of being released. And Mark Scott was convicted of laundering 400 million in stolen OneCoin investor funds, but the case had nothing to do with OneCoin – which is also totally not a fraudulent business, despite that being a cornerstone of the DOJ’s case against both Scott and Ignatov.
But MaMa says there is no evidence that Konstantin is even being held.
These two in the same room would be very entertaining. The tragedy of course is that they both claim to be “leaders” in crypto.
The unscrupulous and cynical lying is probably the reason why Per Danielsen is the “go-to lawyer” for OneCoin.
It’s my understanding that usually lawyers just stretch the facts and laws, and try to spin them in the most favourable light possible for the client even if strains credulity — but not that many are willing to go as far as inventing fables completely unmoored from reality.
I thought it was pretty extreme example of “lawyering” when Konstantin Ignatovs’s lawyer Jeffrey Lichtman said in bail proceedings that the reason why Konstantin lied to US authorities about various issues was that English is not his first language.
How ludicrous and even comical, but perhaps that’s the best defense you can have in that desparate situation without resorting the kind of psychotic lying Danielsen does.
Is this guy, Per Danielsen a real lawyer?
Matthew Russell Lee is now making a FOIA request because of Per Danielsen’s claims.
I think Pacer Jury Trial transcripts should be soon available as well, which show what Konstantin said: i.imgur.com/kGAhGQq.png
There should be some Bar Association or something in Norway, which monitors lawyers and what they are doing.
This guy Per Danielsen should absolutely be reported to that kind of instance for lying publicly on newspaper about US Federal Court case in favor of multibillion dollar scam.
But it’s also because of slowness of US DOJ and authorities which allow these OneCoin scammers to claim such things..
ccn.com wrote that Konstantin Ignatov will receive a US passport. Is that correct?
If I remember correctly, there is a website where you can find out what prison a detainee is in. Can someone please check that?
Federal Bureau of Prisons
Find By Number:
BOP Register Number: 77737-112
Find By Name:
Located at: New York MCC
Release Date: UNKNOWN
That doesn’t prove anything. Everybody knows the Federal Bureau of Prisons is just another part of the lying press.
Confimed ; Konstantin Ignatove is in jail.
Register Number: 77737-112
Located at: New York MCC
Release Date: UNKNOWN
Poor People! literally! that put money into ponzi scam like Onecoin and similar! You never will see your money again! It is real!
We can imagine how you are feeling bad!! The big fall!!
If you can, catch your money right now! Don’t wait anymore!! And tell us how it happened!! There is thousands of people crying around the world!
Your sarcastic comment is reality in OneCoin world. For example the delusional Martin Mayer doesn’t accept the Federal site’s info as proof.
And his answer to all DOJ etc official documnents is: “nonsense” (I’ve messaged him privately in Telegram)
I’ve come to the conclusion Martin Mayer is actually mentally delusional for real, as he was bringing up this same claim that K is not in jail in his public speech in Verona (in english).
Martin Mayer of course claims that the proof that his crazy theories are right, is the critique he gets.
For me, it’s horrible to see people blindly following this delusional guy, because members want to believe so much.
He for sure gets some kicks for being this “prophet” some of the most fanatical members believe in.
Members in Mayer’s discussion Telegram group are mostly very ignorant regarding what is happening in reality, because there’s extremely strict censoring in his group.
Pretty much everything negative is “fake news” according to Mayer, and he chooses not to believe any of it. Meaning of course, that he and his followers live in a lala-land..
This Mayer’s personal sect is definitely fascinating to follow.
Muhammad Adeel has been keeping a curiously low profile recently. But looks like he was also in Italy. He had a meeting with Simon Le at an Italian restaurant.
Can’t see any evidence that he participated the event itself, though.
The scam shell, take a look below;
the below answer comes from onecoin.eu website after asking about the how to invest this kind of business!! look well;
Wow, Gramcoin! Sounds good!! Could it be another Bitcoin beater I wonder??!! What does dealshaker say?!
lol Well I’m convinced already, surely Western Union should be a suitably safe engine for payment wouldn’t you say?!!
#excited2b1stKilogramcoinbillionaire!!! GramWorkd, GramCoin!!! Who’s with me? (SW/UK).
Pppphhhhheeeeeewwwww!!!! Just got a text from Dr Iggy, or iggs as I know her.
If I just hold tight and don’t worry-she’s going to triple my Onecoin balance!! -I was beginning to get a tiny bit worried then!!
OneWorld Onemug!! #howaboutagiantwoodenbunnycryptocurrency? lol X (SWUK) Devon
I want to say just one thing! Try to catch your money just $10, if you get it I’ll believe Onecoin will reborn!!
It is joking of course!! withdraw cash from the cashier just $10 from Onelife or Onecoin by ATM is the like to find Dr. Ruja alive, It is!
#Dr.RuhaIgnatova #KonstantinIgnatova #Onecoin #Robbery #Stolen #Fraud #PonziScheme
That is dated as November 30. That’s the day someone first noticed that onecoin.eu had been blocked by EurID, so the website was no longer reachable and all @onecoin.eu email addresses stopped working.
Gram is for real, but definitely not called GramCoin. It is a token created by Telegram, and there is a functioning blockchain (TON), currently running on their own test network of nodes (but the software to run one’s own nodes has been released).
Public release of tokens has been pushed back to early 2020 at least because of legal problems in the US.
The SEC claims that grams are a security, which Telegram isn’t licensed to sell, Telegram/Pavel Durov dispute that. There are to be hearings.
There have been rumours since at least October that OneCoin was somehow going to try and hitch its waggon to gram, perhaps using the TON blockchain to carry a token of their own, the way ERC-20 tokens use the Ethereum blockchain.
Perhaps that’s technically possible, I don’t know. But it’s perfectly obvious that absolutely nobody legitimate is cooperating with any of the remaining OneCoin scammers, the ones who haven’t yet disappeared or been put in jail.
I also fail to see in what way trying to hitch a ride on someone else’s blockchain would change anything at all, either for the OC scammers or for their victims.
The money is still gone, or still in the hands of the scammers, and juggling tokens around isn’t going to bring it back.
Fake news from OneCoin cheater Uzi Dorel:
How much money is required to develop a fully functional block-chain (Ozedit: Who cares? See below.)
Another lie by Uzi Dorel:
Yeah what a surprise that the scam lawyer Per Danielsen’s lies are now spreading.
@WhistleBlowerFin I talked with a few OneCoin people and i think it is a cult.
They exactly believe that Konstantin is not in jail and that the documents located at PACER are faked. So sad.
How much a blockchain costs or doesn’t cost has nothing to do with OneCoin being a Ponzi scheme. Derails removed.
Its just that you have labelled OneCoin a ponzi to extent of missing a point. 5 years down the road and growing stronger!
Then that must be a heavenly sent ponzi.
Madoff ran his Ponzi fraud for even longer. And still it was a Ponzi fraud.
How long a fraud can keep running does not legitimize fraudulent business model.
Even OneCoin scammers like Syed Mubashar Hassan read behindmlm.com:
A photo of him:
It seems scammers can’t bother reading this post and noting its sarcasm. They’re unironically linking to this post as it showed support for their cause.
It’s like a weird mixture of (inverse) Poe’s Law with a “just reading the headline.”
A ponzi can run for as long as there are gullible idiots to pour money in it.
And from what I can see OneCoin never had a shortage of gullible idiots who are willing to part away from their money for a virtual worthless currency.
@Gilbert, onelife.eu still working, don’t be late! invest my friend 🙂
and take a screenshot, it’s very important!
OneCoin’s Ponzi operations collapsed in Jan 2017. Nobody has received coin returns for almost three years now.
The only thing “growing” in OneCoin is investor desperation.
Let’s go on the assumption that you don’t want to do anything technically original. You just want to be able to say you’ve got a functioning blockchain.
Software costs: hardly any at all. None at all if you have relevant programming knowledge, or already employ someone who does, so you don’t need to go out and pay a programmer (one freelancer will do).
Everything you need is available as free, open-source software, which you can use with some minimal tweaking to put your name on it.
Hardware costs: whatever it costs for computers, electricity and network connectivity (doesn’t need to be internet access, you could hook all of them up to a switch) to run a minimal number of nodes.
Although having all nodes owned by one person defeats the whole purpose of using a blockchain, technologically ownership of the nodes doesn’t matter of course.
I presume Telegram’s TON (Telegram Open Network) blockchain for instance, which is in test mode, is currently in such a functional-but-wholly-owned state, public availability having been put on hold because of an SEC intervention.
You don’t need expensive computers. If you eliminate the necessity for mining (just use a little program that generates new coins whenever you feel like it), running a blockchain node isn’t compute-intensive, and hard disks are very cheap. Any computer capable of running Linux should do.
Hell, you could just have multiple instances of the node software all running on the same machine, talking to each other, no network connection needed. You could still truthfully say you have a blockchain.
So, not expensive at all.
Five years isn’t unusual at all for a Ponzi.
Otto already mentioned Madoff, whose Ponzi lasted for about 40 years (it’s impossible to determine an exact start date). Lots of similar non-MLM Ponzis have run for much longer than 5 years.
The key is to keep people from withdrawing money for as long as possible, and especially from withdrawing their capital.
If you do have to pay out, only pay out interest.
Generally, MLM-based Ponzis collapse much more quickly, because of their additional need for an ever-increasing number of new marks/recruiters. (A classic Ponzi can coast for a very long time on a very few early investors who put in large sums of money.)
Ruja had clearly learned this lesson this during her earlier stint in BigCoin, and made sure to include features whose sole purpose was to delay having to pay out for as long as possible.
Such as not selling any ‘coin’ tokens, but instead selling ‘mining’ tokens, which they only replaced with ‘coin’ tokens after a waiting period, during which they pretended a mining process was happening (actually, the word ‘token’ here isn’t even correct).
Such as announcing right from the start that some randomly set percentage of coins would have to be sold, sorry, mined, first before things could become operational.
Not having an exchange, and stringing people along with claims about one becoming available Any Day Now, for as long as possible, meaning the ‘coins’ people have paid for remain just completely worthless numbers on a screen, was of course highly unoriginal, that’s what all MLM Ponzis do.
But I am sure you will disregard all of that, and you will continue in your belief you have lots of money, because you’ve got a screenshot showing you are the owner of a gazillion of onecoins.
@PassingBy, one gazillion one coins = $0.00
Guys everyone knows ruja Ignatova is walking freely in the euro area Frankfurt London’s west end end.
if you wanna catch her doj stay next to her daughter and her mother doggobut veska. she’s openly walking about.
also recommended missing crypto queen podcast what dreams may come episode six I think igor alberts says there big people in one coin politics????? Billionaire investors???? World leaders?????
He said if he revels them he would be dead. the question is who are they bankers???? Terrorist????? No one knows. let’s find out some how.
also behind mlm didn’t one coin say 60 percent of the coins will be held by the company if so how comes 70 billion has been mined and they are still letting people buy the fake package and fakecoinsthere scamming again.
Nothing has been mined, it’s all bullshit. People will continue to sell packages till OneCoin is shut down for good, because it seems there’s a never-ending parade of morons willing to pay them.
Nope. Their marketing speech was that:
(Meaningless since evidence of the U.S. DOJ already has proven that mining never took place.)
Company did not buy coins back from members either. During some of the “exchange is almost coming” speeches Ruja told that the company will not buy coins from members, the coin sales will come 100% from people buying coins from other people.
@Cordel KingJayms James
I think the splits were part of this “waiting game” too. People didn’t submit their tokens to mining pools because they waited their tokens to multiply, and thus get eventually bigger number of the implied fake value. (I think that members could cash out the value of their coins to some small degree via OneExchange and Xcoinx, and the split-waiting might have also restrained this cash-out.)
Things ran out of the control nevertheless. The original fake blockchain had room for 2.1 billion OneCoins. Ruja said several times that this number couldn’t be ever changed, because real cryptocurrencies don’t work that way.
But it was changed in October 2016. I think background for this can found in the DOJ court documents, where they quote a correspondence between Ruja and Sebastain, Ruja saying:
(page 11, Konstantin Ignatov crimnal complaint)
They outgrew the original blockchain, and this is why they needed to “launch” the new “blockchain” — change the paremeters of their SQL system to 120 billion “coins”.
In other words, as the captain left the ship long ago along with the rats, and the first mate is captured on Treasure Island, now the second mate is leaving on the final life boat.
Meanwhile the engines have been shut off due to lack of fuel, and the ship is leaking through a large hole.
Some passengers are gathering on the deck to find a plan to overcome the “difficulties created by third parties” and sail on towards the sunset.
What we already know with certainty is that Igor Alberts is a convicted fraudster, a man who’s made all his money by telling barefaced lies to almost everyone he meets, all his life. (Although word is that for legal purposes he is dirt-poor, everything is in his wife’s or his children’s names, or owned by untraceable offshore companies).
There is no reason to give more credence to this one claim of his than we would give to anything else he says.
Also: how would he know? I don’t believe for a moment Alberts was ever anywhere near the inner circle, information-wise.
There was absolutely no reason for them to confide in him. He was a useful salesman, nothing more.
To take the categories of people possibly involved you mention in turn:
We do know people from the eastern european underworld were involved with OC. Such people may already have had lots of money.
Whether they got involved with OC (from what we know, it doesn’t seem they were there right from the start) to make even more money, or if they only wanted to use it as a money laundering mechanism, remains an open question.
That they may resort to physical violence or even murder when people displease them is a real possibility. That’s why Konstantin got lifelong protection as part of his plea agreement.
How bankers dealt with OC, we already know. Their publicly known response was shutting down all of OneCoin’s bank accounts, as soon as they got a whiff of dealing with a Ponzi scheme, and as the myriad of shell companies they used were identified one by one.
As far as I can tell, they lost their last known bank account in early January 2017, and that took only one email to the bank from someone who’d identified it as being used by OC.
From Mark Scott’s trial, we also know that his main job was to try and pull the wool over the eyes of the banks they wanted to use. Just one accidental appearance of an “@onecoin.eu” email address in a CC: was enough for one of them to pull the plug.
Nobody who already has billions is going to touch a criminal Ponzi/MLM scheme with a bargepole. Because:
(a) It’s criminal, and most people don’t want to be criminals.
(b) If you’re involved at the top, you cannot at some point take out the money you’ve made and live happily ever after. A Ponzi ends by collapsing, with the people responsible either being in jail, or having to live the rest of their lives on the run.
(c) If you’re already very rich, you don’t need to steal additional money from people with very little money at very high risk.
A prominent politician, even a deeply corrupt one, is very unlikely to get involved for reasons (a) and (b). They might not be too concerned about it being a crime, but they are definitely concerned about that crime being found out, and an MLM-based criminal scheme is by definition very public.
I suppose it’s possible there were some corrupt political figures in Bulgaria, too stupid to really understand the risk they were running, who were somehow involved (Ruja has her connections, after all).
But those, if they exist, wouldn’t be people whose name means anything to anyone outside Bulgaria.
Even the OneCoin scammer Ngoc Cao OL OneCoin dreams of final victory:
It is true that the life of OneCoin idiots will change dramatically. Not positive, but negative!
New video from OneCoin scammer Viktor Tomylin from Ukraine:
The video also shows the “DealShaker Map” of the fraudulent idiot Martin Mayer from Vaduz in Liechtenstein. Other topics are the BBC and Konstantin Ignatov.
OneCoin scammer Viktor Tomylin from Uzhgorod in Ukraine:
OneCoin scammer Giro Dicube claims:
Is this a statement by Konstantin’s lawyer Jeffrey Lichtman?
OneCoin scammer Giro Dicube:
for OneCoin scammer Giro Dicube.
… and some people are surprised that OneCoiner/OneLifer are called IDIOTEN?!
The fraudulent idiot Martin Mayer from Vaduz claims journalist Matthew Russell Lee of Inner City Press lied when he reported this from the courtroom:
Nobody knows how many of his subscribers believe this without checking it themselves.
Why? Because OneCoiner are basically stupid, lazy and gullible. Of course they are greedy, too.
All of you are clearly DELUSIONAL and hate the Fact that ONECOIN is the most SUCCESSFUL Crypto. Buy some OneCoins and secure your miserable futures. Otherwise you will regret it for the REST OF YOUR LIFE.
Come to ONECOIN. I can get you some Education Packages.
Dr Ruja is our HERO. She has liberated both Rich and Poor.
She certainly has… of their money.
I have challenged Martin Mayer to sue me. I called him out as a liar, a fraudster, possibly even mentally deranged. I went out of my way to make the case even easier for him. He knows where to find me.
The reaction? About as much sense as he makes. Nothing.
@ Joyce Ebrahim. Please don’t mention “South Africa” in your title. You drag us all down. Could we have some particular examples of who has been “liberated”? You prove that the “education” means nothing
Complement to comment #41
OneCoin scammer Giro Dicube tries to sell his worthless OneCoins! 😀