Konstantin Ignatov lied about throwing away a laptop
On September 24th the court approved public filing of two redacted communications.
These communications revealed details of Konstantin Ignatov’s testimony perjury, committed at Mark Scott’s money laundering trial.
In his November 2019 witness testimony, Konstantin (right) claimed when he
landed in the US in late February 2019, he was stopped by border patrol.
Border patrol confiscated Ignatov’s phone and laptop. The laptop was returned but they kept the phone.
Konstantin hung on the laptop till he got to Las Vegas.
Konstantin went on to allege that when he
was in Las Vegas, (he) put (the laptop) into a paper trash bag with other trash items, and (he) took it to a trash bin on a busy place in the Las Vegas Strip, and (he) threw it into the trash bin there.
Turns out what he actually did was
provided the laptop (to Duncan Arthur) – so that it could be returned to OneCoin.
(Duncan Arthur) did just that, flying the computer out of the U.S. – beyond the reach of Government authorities – and returning it to Veska Ignatova, the mother of Konstantin and Ruja, at the OneCoin offices in Sofia, Bulgaria.
In the public filing, Mark Scott’s letter motion for a new trial, Duncan’s name is redacted.
We know Ignatov handed him the laptop though, owing to Arthur already having disclosed he was travelling with Ignatov at the time.
As above, Scott’s legal team also failed to redact Arthur’s name in one paragraph of their letter motion.
Upon realizing that Konstantin testified falsely, (Arthur) – who voluntarily cooperated with the Government in this investigation – contacted an investigator.
Scott’s attorney claims the DOJ “failed to disclose this instance of perjury” to them. The attorney alleges the DOJ knew of the perjury as early as June 29th, 2021.
Scott’s attorney claims he learned of the perjury directly from Arthur in July.
Why Arthur did what he did is redacted.
Scott’s attorney goes on to argue;
Konstantin’s deceit upon this Court undermines the credibility of the Government’s star witness against Mr. Scott.
His testimony was absolutely central to the Government’s evidence that Mr. Scott engaged in any kind of illegal activity.
The “interest of justice” requires the court to vacate Mr. Scott’s conviction and grant a new trial.
Does Konstantin lying about what he did with a laptop change the evidence presented against Mark Scott? No.
It also has no bearing on Scott (right) laundering $400 million in stolen OneCoin investor funds. Or any of the evidence presented against Scott by the DOJ.
Scott’s attorney argues that Konstantin lying about the laptop “casts grave doubt on the fairness of the trial”.
In support of this they put forth another alleged instance of perjury, with respect to when Konstantin met Scott.
Konstantin testified falsely about the only occasion when he ever met Mr. Scott.
Konstantin testified to a meeting on July 20, 2016 in which Mr. Scott met Ruja Ignatova and – allegedly – Irina Dilkinska at OneCoin’s Sofia, Bulgaria office.
Given that Irina Dilkinska was allegedly in charge of supervising the laundering of OneCoin funds, her supposed presence at this meeting was a key inculpatory detail.
In dramatic fashion, Konstantin recounted how Ruja supposedly instructed him to call Irina Dilkinska into this meeting and “to make sure that everybody on this floor leaves and goes home so that Irina, Mark, and Ruja are alone.”
Konstantin testified that the following week, Dilkinska told him that “she had to stay [at the meeting] a long time … until Mark Scott understood everything that has to be done or he has to do.”
This was simply a lie. Emails from the Government’s production provided clear and compelling evidence that Dilkinska was not even in Bulgaria at the time of the meeting in question.
This claim is based on email communications, which were rejected as inadmissible hearsay at Scott’s trial.
When the DOJ questioned Konstantin about his perjury in August 2021, he stated he
didn’t think the United States Government would believe what happened to the laptop, which is why he lied.
Konstantin Ignatov doesn’t have an exact memory of why he lied about the laptop.
Konstantin Ignatov didn’t correct (the record) because he didn’t want the United States Government to think he was a liar.
In light of Ignatov’s perjury, Scott’s attorney contends information on Ignatov’s laptop “could have contained additional evidence establishing that his testimony about Dilkinska’s presence at the meeting was also fake”.
Whether Konstantin’s laptop lie overturns his conviction on a legal basis remains to be seen.
A decision on Scott’s retrial motion remains pending.
So, Konstantin admitted lying on Mark Scott trial, in the Government interview on August 25, 2021.
I think Konstantin can say bye bye to any 5K1 letter he hoped to see reduce his sentence. I don’t think Judge Ramos takes it lightly that Konstantin committed perjury in his court room…
It’s very unlikely that Konstantin walks free any time soon, which is excellent news.
While Scott may get a retrial and the OneCoin scammers would no doubt hype it, the cold shower for OneCoin and its scam promoters come when Konstantin is sentenced to prison hopefully for a loong time..
Some comments:
– This potential perjury was not one of the issues I suspected. So I think there are at least two other things that K said on the trial that are likely incorrect/inaccurate and therefore potential perjuries.
But perhaps I´m wrong because it´s somewhat befuddling to me as to why Government would have let him to testify about those things as they likely knew they are incorrect.
Some other omissions by the Government that relate Scott´s criminal activities on Ruja´s behalf seem strange to me, but can be perhaps explained by protection of ongoing investigations (which — while they did had some connection to Scott — are better prosecuted under different branch cases) or that they didn´t have time build case around those aspects because the material they seized from Scott was released close to the trial (due to bad faith obstruction by Scott´s defense). If there is a new trial, it´d be interesting to see if they bring additional charges against Scott.
I´m not yet going to elaborate on what I wote about in the two paragraphs above but I derived those conclusions from my open source research, and can document it at some point after considering the right way and time to do it.
– So the Feds seized K´s computer & phone in San Fransisco and gave only the computer back to him, which he lied throwing away in Las Vegas.
He may have gotten the laptop back, because the Feds may have been able to copy the contents of the laptop very quickly but the phone needed more time.
You can see references to contents of the K´s laptop on the March 2019 Konstantin Ignatov Criminal Complaint. The Ruja POA was from K´s laptop.
But it´s strange that Scott defense now claims that the potentially exculpatory evidence that may have been on the laptop is now forever lost. I think the Government would or should have produced the contents of the laptop to Scott´s defense if they had it.
Either Scott´s defense don´t realize that they have it or they lie about not having it or that the Government has screwed up one way or another (either by giving the laptop back to K before securing its full content and/or not producings the laptop´s contentst to Scott´s defense as part of the discovery material).
– It´s very strange that Duncan Arthur supposedly learned about the Konstantin´s false statements only this summer. And the fact that he took the laptop back to Veska seriously questions his judgement and the story he has been pushing about being “woken up” after the Feds questioned him in USA.
– K´s motive for lying about the laptop is very strange too. “KI didn´t think USG would believe what happened to laptop, which is why lied.. KI doesn´t have exact memory why he lied about the laptop… K didn´t correct it bc he didn´t want USG think he was a liar”. It just doesn´t make any sense to me or that he is indeed an incredible — as his laywer put it — lunkhead.
– While this does question the reliability of K testimony in general, the lies/omissions here are not very material to Scott´s case.
K´s testimony only corraborated some aspects the Government already knew from the evidence they had gathered from other sources.
I think the evidence from the email correspondence and other documents alone would have have been more than enough to convict Scott without any input from Konstantin.
If there is a new trial, the Government likely has David Pike as a co-operating witness which would make the case an overkill, becase he –unlike K — worked closely with Scott.
^ Actually I remember Duncan has said he went to Sofia to ask the same questions which the Feds asked him. And he received no satisfactory answers.
At that time he still considered Konstantin a friend as we have learned.
Only later, when Konstantin’s testified, Duncan fully realized Konstantin is not the person he thought he is.
@ Semjon
Please ask me and I will tell you. You don’t need to speculate. Oz has my details.
Why did I go to Sofia after March the 6th? I was in a complete daze.
My flight was booked. I asked the same questions the Feds asked me. I didn’t get answers, I protested, they kicked me out.
In the meantime I copied everything and sent it where it needed to go. Some things are sub iudice right now and I can’t comment publicly.
What’s it like to be questioned by Feds? Not pleasant. They told me how this ends and implied that I am lucky supidity isn’t a crime. That was just the start of dealing with law enforcement.
By everything revealed, I mean everything. For months afterwards anything happening in that Sofia office was leaked to me by people who were horrified.
They would absolutely shit themselves if they knew the scale of who is working with an authority and who was all along, even right back to when Ruja was there.
There are some very good reasons why they hate me and why they came after me the way they did.
I even managed to secure a paper copy of the entire archive. The US authorities picked it up.
The keys to the London properties were handed over. Anything not seized went to Oxfam in black bags.
As to how it is possible I only read the transcript mid-2021? I have been trying to forget this and move on.
The thing is also nearly 1,000 pages long and we have have lives, families, dodging OL’s dodgy lawyers, etc.
I defended Konstantin, right up to him pleading guilty. Him doing that really hurt and I couldn’t even think about this for months.
I had better things to do and I read the summaries on this site. My bad.
Would be for the judge to decide if this rises to a Brady v. Maryland due process issue which would have consequences for the prosecution.
What I find most troubling is that the Govt seemingly has no interest in finding the truth. It woukd be shocking, if true, that instead of investigating Scott’s allegation of Konstantin’s lies at trial, it opted not only to ignore the possibility, which was seemingly supported by discovery materials the Govt itself provided to the defense. Instead it pressed the judge to exclude the very information that certainly would have had a material impact on the jury’s evaluation of Konstantin’s believability. No Konstantin = NO case. Period. And will be interesting to see how the judge will react now that it has been established that Konstantin is a liar and he did not believe Scott’s team at trial that he is. Great chance for him to correct the record. I am sure he trusted in the Govt’s to be expected candor. Well, we are all becoming aware that this can no longer be expected at all times, especially in the SDNY. Too many violations lately.
The truth is Onecoin was a Ponzi scheme and Mark Scott laundered over 400 million for them.
Scott was paid 50 million in stolen investor funds for assisting Onecoin launder money.
Konstantin giving Arthur a laptop doesn’t change that.
Just filed: MEMORANDUM in Opposition by USA as to Mark S. Scott re [410] LETTER MOTION addressed to Judge Edgardo Ramos dated 8/23/2021
storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.482287/gov.uscourts.nysd.482287.412.0.pdf
Oz, I think your last comment is just a bit too general.
First, K lied about more than just the laptop. Now that he is an established perjurer, it is quite clear that he also lied about the meeting in Sofia where Scott was supposedly told how to launder funds.
Emails are available to show he lied. Govt should have investigated this further at trial and not just ignore and hope it goes away. Makes them look bad now.
They vouched for this guy. Maybe they have more information from computer and never shared?
Second, even if Scott “laundered” money for Ruja, not much evidence I found that shows he knew the funds were criminal, which is a required element.
Are there any emails that establish this?
Third, Gov only showed minimal connection to US. Wire fraud cases involving in excess of $100 mio from US sources have been dismissed as extraterritorial.
Fourth, Scott’s attorney in latest filing seems to challenge the Govt’s tracing analysis as well. If that turns out to be unreliable, case over.
Then there is the seemingly repeated Govt misconduct of withholding information. Certainly a serious due proces issue that judge must examine.
All this, if true, adds up to at least a new trial, possibly acquittal and major issues for the prosecutors.
SDNY on a roll when it comes to misconduct lately.
This is shortly what the Govt argues why the verdict should stand:
storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.482287/gov.uscourts.nysd.482287.412.0.pdf
^ Well, I have to say that the Govt’s memorandum is quite impressive!
The best case would be that the Scott verdict stays and Konstantin loses all his benefits. Let’s hope that happens. I think there’s a very realistic chance for that.
DOJ wut doing?
It’s the weekend, I’m supposed to be working on reviews at a leisurely pace.
edit: omg it’s 32 pages long. RIP
Best. DoJ. Answer. Ever. That should take care of a few things.
Comment section is the real thing today.
If you listen to people involved, it seems like only Konstantin and Ruja knew about the scam.
Scott, Duncan, everybody just innocent. and so surprised that there was shit going on.
Wasn’t duncun even so shocked he wated to engage immediately in some other shitcoin or something with some of the network? and wasn’t he somekind of a manager in oc? but the poor guy got simply lied to, of course.
there was no google available showing him a bit of the shitshow he was part of lol.
but my favorite today is systemsceptic. sounds like scott himself writing comment. apart from getting new evidence about k being an idiot, this is such a crushing respons of doj, with enough evidence to win 10 trials.
if this is not scott, how can you seriously defend the heart of the money stealing scheme behind all of this?
my wish to santa clause this year: get ruja, to lower her sentence she’ d do all to lower her sencence and spill it all. just imagine all of those criminals in jail.
As long as there isn’t much else he lied about, you can bet they will fight to keep this one as is, and still find ways to use him against Greenwood and others.
If they can lock the rest away, he will still get credit for assisting, even with the perjury.
@Mike, I think Konstantin is done, his credibility is gone for any future trials.
Furthermore the Govt would only write a 5k1 letter to judge recommending a lighter sentence if Konstantin cooperates properly. Now he has admittedly broken even his bail terms by lying in court.
And it would be up to the judge if he takes a possible 5k1 letter in consideration regarding the sentencing or not. Do you think Judge Ramos appreciates that Konstantin lied in his court?
No.. I think Konstantin is done for good.
@Duncan Arthur
I sincerely applaud your post-2019 contributions in efforts to expose Ruja´s criminal scheme and help the investigations — and by extension getting justice for the victims.
For this reason, I´d very much like to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I´m afraid I have hard time believing that you didn´t knowingly work for a criminal enterprise between 2016-2019.
Your continued association with OneCoin during that period despite what a person in your position must have learned and witnessed, makes you at minimum culpable by negligence and recklessness.
You should have known better, you actively failed to excercise your duty find out, and that led to some serious damages way beyond your personal reputation. No amount of cultish brainwashing, “paid stupid”, etc can change that fact.
I fear these are not just lapses of judgement or lack of information caused by exterme psycho-social conditions of OneCoin, but that there might have been more sinister “knowing & willing” element on your part.
Some doubts can also be raised from the fact that after the US trip and break-up with Sofia, you went on to launch those dodgy schemes with dodgy people aimed at OneCoin victims.
But I hope you now are a fully changed man and continue atone your past without any further misrepresentations.
The strange thing about the your late realization is the laptop tesimony wasn´t some obscure thing hidden in the 1000+ pages of the transcript but was in fact featured in these summaries:
– https://behindmlm.com/companies/onecoin/konstantins-testimony-drops-one-onecoin-bombshell-after-another/
(based on the ICP live tweets, which you must have read at the time)
– https://behindmlm.com/companies/onecoin/the-witness-testimony-of-konstantin-ignatov/
Your account (featured in episode 9 of The Missing Crypto Queen) about Konstantin joining you hours later in Las Vegas with phone AND laptop taken away is at odds with the my reading of the facts.
Konstantin would have had the laptop with him and only the phone missing. He put the laptop in your bag and instructed you to take it to Sofia.
You remembered and revealed many impressive details about what happened on the US trip, but curiously not this — until very late in the game.
Perhaps there is an innocent explanation for this, but it seemed strange to me nevertheless.
Govt once again misleads in this brief on multiple levels.
For example, Apex, Scott’s fund administrator, knew of OC from the outset. Govt claims he kept his connection to OC secret from Apex. A tall tail by the Govt of an inadvertent email that reveals the connection. Completely concocted.
As per the record and Apex testimony Scott handed them corporate documents, bank statements and commercial contracts that showed OC’s involvement.
A contract that Apex released money for has Ruja as a signatory and the deal was payable in large part in OneCoin.
Don’t believe all you read. Scott disclosed. Same as he apparantly paid taxes and disclosed his income and Fenero accounts to the US Govt.
Strange if he thought he was laundering money or earning money from doing it. And Govt helped block the Neil Bush suppoena. He could have testified as to the deal in question. He was part of it.
To me this is telling. Govt continues to spread misinformation to hold on to the conviction.
If this case goes to a new trial, Govt screwed. No witnesses left. This case is material to other cases.
@ Semjon: you are please very, very welcome to enagage me whenever. Let’s make it public and invite everyone here.
No, I didn’t know I worked for a criminal enterprise. Do you expect to be scammed? Of course you don’t. And neither did I nor the four million and counting who were.
Did Madoff’s staff and victims know? No they didn’t. Thank you for your benefit of the doubt.
I was raised properly and I am the reason this will never be repeated. End of.
My sympathy is for the staff (and of course the victims) – those guys are screwed, and unemployable, and they are my friends, no innocent explanations needed.
Please explain how what happened in LV and SF concerns you? By then I was paranoid.
Have you ever been caught up in something bigger than you that overwhelms you and leads to you thinking on reserve battery? This was it. Again, please contact me to discuss it.
Are you going to read 1,000 pages when you have read the headlines here? Dude, I got a diagnosis of PTSD after they came after me.
Trauma is a process and I didn’t have to do this.
WhistleBlowerFin seems to help the pulse on this. Konstantin is toast.
It has to be expected that Judge Ramos, who presides over the other OC related cases, will certainly order a hearing to get to the bottom of things, if he does not just rule on the record.
He can’t afford making decisions on a record full of lies and misconduct. Konstantin will likely be remanded soon now that the perjury was confirmed.
@duncan you no victim you work onecoin criminals. You take onecoin victims monies again onecoin another scam fraud you make.
You no learn you say here. You lie more time. You lie lie lie.
You talk say sorry so no go jail. You take my monies and oneccoin victims monies after onecoin lie promises to return my onecoin monies victims loss in onecoin, you fraud again after onecoin.
No victim you criminal who lie all time same Konstantin lie all time. You talk say you no criminal but no true.
Konstantin you work all time he your friend onecoin criminal. No true you no know onecoin fraud. You take laptop go Sofia give Veska Ruja’s mom, you no give America authorities.
You give information you scared if no you go jail. You tell here you victim and no know onecoin a fraud.
You PTSD say, victims very much PTSD suicide. You no care onecoin victims do another fraud after onecoin take monies another time onecoin victims.
My monies away with you fraud,you no care, no talk just run with monies then say you victim here. Ruja have it and you have monies.
victims big sadness no monies all gone to Ruja and you. You big lies all time. No believe you victim, you criminal tell much lies all time.
go jail Duncan. No ever say you victim you no victim you fraud liar work with onecoin criminals, make own fraud scam steal onecoin victims again monies.
You say you victim, no true you bad liar fraud criminal.
The whole onecoin scam is like nazi germany in the financual world.
millions of victims all over the world, the cult of world domination(even a stupid hand sign) the big leader that didn’t get caught and than the trial against the big figures start and all say “well it happened before our eyes, we actually did it, but you can’t blame us because we didn’t know what is happening”.
with all respect to what duncan did after his arrest, i doubt without him or konstantin getting arrested he wouldn’t betalking on scenes about the future of this and that.
as long as “i didn’t know what was happening” is taken as an excuse the scam will continue all over the world.
sophisticated men like scott or duncan, who went to big schools, worked for big companies and have their fancy titles in their linkedinn profiles, all of a sudden don’t get the smallest things? its a bit to convenient.
and like this all scammers just see that there are no consequences here, what ever you doin. and duncan wants people to feel sorry for him having ptsd.
even saying this is mocking our veterans who really saw hard things in war. d only got arrested after he was working in a high position for a big fraud scheme over years.
god forbid he went to jail, what would he have than?!
still the best here is systemsceptic. i bet this is scott sitting at home hating the doj because they smashed him with a 100000 reasons k’s testemony is not important to convict him lol.
even if his testimony wasnt that important i easily see k doing more jail time. well just look at the pic, this guy looks like born for jail.
@ Hotrod
Firstly I was never arrested. Apart from when I was in the Army and the MPs would arrest you for smiling funny. You want to joke about PTSD and what I might have lived through in uniform, please contact me privately. I dare you.
Secondly, I killed this thing.
(Ozedit: derail removed)
@Duncan
Now that your role as a victim doesn’t work you change faces i see…
no need to discuss , you are innocent and still a changed man. a very well educated man with experience in life, deoesnt get why his companies get investigated from all authorities. let me guess, you thought it were haters
so is now ptsd from the army or the feds questioning you (what is a serious reason to get stressed for life if you didn’t even get arrested – my bad by the way).
well lets give you the benefit of doubt, because you killed something thats still going on lol. just too many coincidences. hope you will write a book.
@ hotrod
PM me. Oz has my details and we can have a nice civil talk on Zoom. I insist that it will be public. Over to you.
@duncan tell me my coment I ask you befor, no ignore coment and monies you steal.
You say help onecoin victims get monies back, you no you liar! You take onecoin victims monies again in bycoi.
You liar, steal victims monies. You run way with monies and no speak victims again. You speak here. you no victim you lie people here.
were my monies and onecoin victims monies you steal them again in bycoi? Tell me.
Yoko
What?! Go to the cops then if you feel you have a case. The usual rules apply for speaking to me in public and on record
@duncan my country police no care, you no fraudsters no this. You scam people as me onecoin victim.
You promise, lie steal victims monies you no no help by police. You bad scam liar. You have monies you promise my monies loss in onecoin return if onecoin victims give you monies in bycoi.
I gvae you monies in bycoi you take my monies and onecoin victims monies ran away no hear from you again.
YOU NO VICTIM YOU SCAMMER LIAR THIEF BAD MAN WERE IS MONIES GIVE TO YOU?
If you would like the 30 bucks you spent back and you will have it in moments, PM me. Go to the police.
@duncan no no no no 30 bucks you take monies and onecoin victims monies 1,464,096.87 Thai Baht more monies no 30 bucks. Were monies gave you? Why you ran way no here from you. You lie here lie to us you no care. Give monies back. Tell truth you no victim you liar scammer fraud. Go jail Duncan.
Again. I repeat. If you have a complaint against me. Good for you. Let’s discuss it a public forum with everyone here watching or listening. If you don’t want to do that, kindly keep your opinions to yourself
@Duncan
It´s not me you have to explain yourself but the public. So everything that you can say, please say it here, on public record.
I think you failed to explain the point I raised about discrepancy of what happened when Konstantin joined you in Las Vegas on later flight.
Besides the episode 9 of TMCQ, I found two other your accounts (youtube.com/watch?v=dz1gHPBh6cY ; youtu.be/OIAE0cC14zY?t=10009) of the US trip, and in all of them you say that Konstantin had both his laptop and phone seized when he arrived Las Vegas.
Now it seems he had his laptop with him in Las Vegas, which he gave it you. He gave it to you and asked you to take it to Sofia.
Please explain why this discrapancy? And why did you pliantly deliver it to Sofia, especially when you tell us that the Feds “hit the point home” for you how serious and shady everything is?
You say that you took these questions to Sofia but you omitted that you took the laptop too. And you knew as much that Kristina Gouneva destroyed it.
And if I may ask directly — since you indicate being open to take my questions — was this “refreshment of memory” prompted by Frank Schneider arrest?
Frank probably knew that you and K lied about the laptop, and thus had the power to cause you serious trouble. (Now K is toasted and may never spend time with his child for this stupid laptop lie. K being toasted as a witness serves the interests of FS the best. )
Did Frank´s defense reach out to you about this matter?
Was Frank the one who gave you “the legal opinion” that it was safe to travel to US?
Konstantin testified the following about what happened in Las Vegas:
Since you were close to K and other big leaders the trip, can you elaborate on the nature of this new Ponzi scheme within OneCoin that was discussed?
A cynic would say that finding new ways of exploiting the people who had already bought Onecoin packages sound eerily similiar to what you were doing with Bycoi/Ovid/Unica. It´s also the current approach of Sofia criminals.
Semjon, again I am absolutely welcome to engage, Oz and cryptoexpose have my contact details. Let’s please make an event of it. Over to you, thanks
duncan here we got your realy face, mocking someone for his loss. even if its just 30 bucks.
but a changed man. who was so under shock he immediately joined the next scam.i hope there will be a public hearing and i am sure they will ask you a few questions about you. maybe we will get some nice information about you.
but its of course all a lie. just wonder how convenient everything works out for you.
and i would love to see you explain yourself on a public event, when you can’t even defend your lies here without getting personal.
I think the DA discourse beyond his connection to Konstantin’s laptop has run its course.
DA didn’t run OneCoin, Ruja Ignatova did. If you want your money back go find her.
@oz for loss monies ruja onecoin we join onecoin victim lawsuit for monies duncan stole we ask here he say he victim but not.
he liar we question what he say not true. we right to question him he lie no defend him.
Not every victim of OneCoin is a monetary victim.
If you want to question DA about the laptop, that’s fine. All I’m seeing from you and Hotrod though is “where’s our money?” whinging.
DA doesn’t have your money. BehindMLM is not a scam victim support group.
@oz it for public scams chat right to question when he lie here (Ozedit: derails removed)
This isn’t a “public scams chat”. Last warning.
@Duncan
The questions are already raised here. By all means, make a public event (or whatever) in which you provide the answers to the questions I just posed here, if it suits you the best.
I don´t need or want to be any part it. I´m not the one who has some explaining to do, so it´s over to you how you may want address these issues.
BehindMLM comment section is the format I choose for any correspondence between us on these matters.
@ Semjon
I don’t have “any explaning to do”. I have explained in detail to the US and UK authorities.
The consequences speak for themselves, Anything else is academic, Give me a call.
I go away for 17 days and all kimshee breaks loose. But I do have some questions for systensceptic:
Where did you get your law degree? Where do you practice law and what type of law do you specialize in your practice?
Mark Scott’s attempt to catch the last straw?
storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.482287/gov.uscourts.nysd.482287.413.0.pdf
I guess the medical excuses are wearing thin, so this is the new play.
Scott already brought this up in his mistrial motion IIRC.
share-your-photo.com/dfdbee87e7
nrwz.de/schramberg/onecoin-hat-konstantin-ignatov-einen-meineid-geschworen/321932
@Oz, you seem hateful and are ignoring realties. Scott’s claims have been proven true every time so far.
It is also concerning how you dismiss Scott’s medical issues that have been confirmed by medical doctors and that Judge Ramos considers as serious. I don’t know, but benefit of the doubt maybe?
Are you in favor of convictions based on only a hunch and in violation of applicable laws and standards? (Ozedit: derails removed)
And Duncan is a gutsy guy. You guys did not make it easy on him to come forward.
Knowing what you know now, how do you feel about the Govt’s star and only cooperating witness? And we are up to at least three instances of the Govt not making obligatory disclosures….. can’t wait to hear back from you.
What claims would those be? Scott’s attorneys have been fed information and brought it up in court.
They’re not uncovering anything themselves.
The phone is one thing, the other two developments (Konstantin lying and Dilkinska) is information provided by a third-party.
Dilkinska is still being investigated based on current court filings. You can hardly hold the DOJ accoutable for Konstantin lying.
Scott didn’t seem to have any medical issues when he was laundering money for OneCoin. Combine that with the “oh you caught me, *cough cough* I’m so terribly sick…” defendant trope, and I’m sure you can appreciate my skepticism.
I’m in favor of conviction based on Scott laundering $400 mill for OneCoin and getting paid $50 mill to do it.
That’s what the evidence shows. Konstantin perjuring himself is unfortunate but doesn’t change what Scott did. Neither does Dilkinska being in India or not.
The one point I’ll concede is that DOJ has been far too lenient with Konstantin. Revoking his release and being transparent with respect to the status of his case would go a long way.
I am still baffled by the 5 year Dubai investigation that cleared all parties of money laundering and released the funds, why was there no input from other agencies?
It is hard to believe the FBI Legat offices in Dubai and Abu Dhabi were unaware. And what happened to the funds that passed through Bank of Ireland?
Regardless of Scott’s criminal issues, those funds should be sequestered for investors since OC is in part a Wire Fraud case and victims are mentioned in the criminal complaints to achieve jurisdiction.
Sytstensceptic, thanks for coming back but please answer my questions I asked you.
But I have one more question for you: What position do you have in OneCoin/OneLife? I look forward to your reply.
I also noticed that you conveniently ignored all the other government witnesses that appeared in Scott’s money laundering case, so Konstantin wasn’t the only witness, let alone the lone star witness.
Selective reading I see.
Small details are not the issue but whether material exclulpatory evidence was intentionally withheld from the defense.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/373/83/
“(a) Suppression by the prosecution of evidence favorable to an accused who has requested it violates due process where the evidence is material either to guilt or to punishment, irrespective of the good faith or bad faith of the prosecution.”
@Lynndel, Which other witnesses are you talking about? There is not one other witness that testified that Scott laundered money or committed bank fraud.
Govt fictionalized a bunch of very circumstantial evidence and had its own agents read off emails they had no knowledge of. The trial had only two non law enforcement witnesses that met Scott ever.
Did anyone read the declaration by Scott’s forensic expert? Govt seemingly can’t piece together the funds flow, including for the mere $50k the Govt presented at trial as stemming from the U.S. but made it part of its case nevertheless.
If that guy is right, Scott’s alleged acts have no connection to the U.S. I am sure Jon Levy can appreciate the legal problem with that.
Extraterritorial application of U.S law. Scott plead that in his Rule 29 as well.
As to the cellphone, of course it also violates the cooperation agreement. K agreed to abide by all laws and regulations. BoP is a Federal Agency.
unbelievable that the Govt after knowing about the mobile for a year once again did not analyze the data and did not make any disclosures.
Instead it continued to claim K only lied once…..as if that is acceptable. disclosure issues by Govt seem to be chronic.
K is a crook of the worst kind. Hopefully the judge will get it right and remand and punish K appropriately.
The Govt must be concerned how this affects the Greenwood case as well. They likely had K primed as the main witness.
As to Jon Levy’s last comment, misconduct is likely. Now several instances of failure by Govt to disclose exculpatory and impeachment evidence.
I would be surprised this will be excused by the judge after misconduct has become a rampant problem in the SDNY lately.
@Lynndel
don’t even engage in discussions with systemcritic. i bet this is scott himself or someone related to him. he is kind of religiously defending him. and nobody else defends someone who made all the moneyflow for such a big scam possible.
someone who got 50 million to make a sceme within a sceme should be innocent? i don’t think of anyone else than scott himself or his party trying to defend him…
even if scott gets a retrial he will lose again, read the response of doj to his motion. its almost ridiculous how they crushed him.
If K lied under oath and Scott was prejudiced and that influenced the jury and court, Scott should get a retrial.
I would like right now to say that I believe Scott to be a complete piece of work, etc, and as guilty as all hell, but if K lied under oath… Cosby walked. I’m not happy about it but it is in the interests of justice that things happen properly.
We all know he is guilty. If the DoJ can’t keep things together, this happens.
SDNY is starting to look like Zimbabwe.
actully its a funny thing. scotts lawyer claimed k not to be at least important at trial. this was the strategy there.
now k is crucial for the conviction. scott is a lawyer himself, so he knows how to b end law that it helps him.
they have all these communications of him, where he even instructs people how to make the laundring happen.
there are travel records of him being in bulgaria not only once. and for sure he never met r but just went there on holiday.
no victim will get justice as long scott is not sentenced. or why do all the others always get pushed for later when scott moves his sentencing date?!
@Sytstensceptic, still ducking answering my initial questions to you. In case you “forgot” what they were, let me repeat them for you:
Where did you get your law degree? Where do you practice law and what type of law do you specialize in your practice?
I totally agree Konstantin is a criminal, a liar and a real piece of work; but then so is Mark Scott, whom you love to defend.
I find it hilarious you are here trying to sanitize Mark’s role in OneCoin and trying to make him the choir boy defendant who has been railroaded.
It is amazing how most bloggers on this site automatically take the position that anyone criticizing the legal process or lack of evidence in a OneCoin related prosecution must be one of the defendants or a OneCoin perp.
It is scary how the Govt wields its power without care and regard for the law and the rights of any defendant. All about the conviction.
The Govt’s excuse of why it did not disclose the perjury is hilarious. No way the judge will buy that. And now we find out the Govt sat on an illegal mobile phone without noticing the judge or Scott’s attorneys.
It only gets better the longer this lasts. The Scott case provides one of the rare opportunities of exposing this ongoing Govt misconduct.
And you can throw the Govts opposition regarding the perjury is much less strong as it may appear as it completely ignores the more expansive lies by Konstantin and it’s own misconduct, which is growing by the day.
Hotrod sounds like he works for the Govt. He understands.
@systemsceptic,
i would agree with you if we were talking about an innocent man going to jail because of a wrong testimony. but how much more evidence do you need to convict someone.
we’re talking about sentencing some big time criminal. it is clear that he is guilty. he might get a retrial and will go to jail then.
still i think your scott himself lol. no logical reson defending him otherwise.
I totally with @hoterod.
Scott is guilty perjury or no perjury.
The evidence shows during trial and all evidence by Government.
I truly think systemsceptic you are Scott. Scott is a crook.
I really hope that after we know whether Scott will have a retrial or sentence, the DOJ finally puts Konstantin back to a nice Federal detention center, and ends his ridiculous home incarceration while waiting for his sentencing.
Scott is a crook for sure, but Konstantin is some next level a-hole.
Anyway K is out of the game now after his perjury(s) so put the a-hole to Brooklyn MDC with Greenwood.
Let’s see what happens in tomorrow’s David Pike plea hearing.
The real crook is at large with 500m to 1b cash and perhaps 230,000 BTC worth at least 14 billion, yet not on America’s most wanted no public Interpol Red Notice.
No public Interpol Red Notice for the world’s biggest pyramid scheme mastermind and alleged funder of terrorism – why?
Is it because of Neal Bush’s involvement in the Madagascar oil scam or enmeshment of the Bulgarian government and an Emirati royal family?
interpol.int/en/How-we-work/Notices/View-Red-Notices
Greenwood is moving money around in Dubai through his lawyer Bin Haider – something seriously wrong with this picture.
What I can say, having run BehindMLM for over a decade, is nobody comes in to bat for scammers who isn’t involved with or somehow tied to the scammers.
Randoms don’t follow the court cases of MLM scammers and run around defending them online.
You’re free to cheerlead for scammers, just don’t pretend otherwise.
Jon, as an attorney, I would think you would know that only about 20% at most are ever listed on the Interpol public red notice. It does not mean she is not on the unpublished red notice list.
Interpol makes the final determination as to who is and who isn’t on the public list after reviewing all the input from all the various law enforcement agencies requesting a criminal be red listed.
As for Greenwood moving money around, there are plenty of reasons why it is being allowed. Surely as an attorney you can understand and think of all the reasons why it is allowed. Just because the money is moved does not mean it can be released.
The last time I checked the US Attorney did not have to get permission from anyone outside the investigation for their permission to do what they do. Nor they need to explain their actions.
It doesn’t mean that you can’t ask them and the same is true for Interpol.
I know of numerous criminals that were arrested that never appeared on the public red notice from Interpol, but they sure were on the unpublished list. It’s how they were caught.
What exactly did happen in Madagascar? Madagascar even has oil? The involvement of the Bush family is just so fantastic that I can barely comprehend it.
Back to phones. How can you even use a cellphone in a prison? It’s pretty routine in many parts of the world for the signal to be blocked in places like churches, banks, schools, etc. Surely a federal detention facility would get that treatment?
As for Scott. no retrial or delay in the world is going to take away the fact that he knows what he did. Being an attorney he had an extra duty of care.
He gets a break now, big deal. What’s coming hangs over him longer with all the cost of his lawyers and anxiety piling up and eating away at him.
The longer it takes the older he gets and the more difficult being banged up is going to be.
Hi Lynn:
I can think of plenty of reasons why the world’s greatest swindler should be on the public INTERPOL Red Notice list and very few why she would not.
As for Greenwood accessing funds in Dubai by issuing checks to his lawyer that bounce and then are cashed against court blocked accounts containing victim money by his lawyer – I can’t think of any valid reason at all.
Not his money. He did not earn it. And the Dubai court would not permit if DOJ or SEC intervened.
jlevy.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Exhibit-6-1.pdf
The lack of a SEC companion action means the investors are going to get hosed – there is a nice list of US based promoters in the Grablis lawsuit who have been unjustly enriched and would quickly fold if sued for disgorgement.
It is a real pity because the SEC has gone after far smaller fish.
Hi Stevie:
There is oil in the Madagascar straights.
Coincidently, this Malagasy fellow is sporting the same Al Qassimi issued ICAFE diplomatic credential as Ruja:
facebook.com/icafeMadagasikara/photos/226734924764798
lagazette-dgi.com/?p=23643
@Jon, Neither was Karl Sebastian Greenwood, Irina Dilkinska or Frank Schneider. One would think they would be on the list along with Ruja on the public red list, but they weren’t.
Law Enforcement has their reasons why they don’t want some criminals on the public red list and want them kept private. Contact me privately and I’ll explain.
Funny how Sytstensceptic keeps ducking answering my simple questions to him about his law credentials isn’t it.
So either he is either an: armchair lawyer pontificating trying to sound like he knows what he is talking about, a law school student, he is being fed information from Mark Scott to post here, or he really is a lawyer and giving out the information would “out” him as to his real identity.
I really don’t expect him to answer me, as he is too chicken to do so.
Surely being on any kind of list is a warning not to travel. It isn’t like Bin Laden took commercial airlines.
Sytstensceptic is Scott or someone close to him.
Hey Scott, what’s Pike going to say in open court when he pleads guilty?
What is interesting to me about K lying about what happened to his laptop is inconsequential.
The feds when they initially confiscated it, copied everything from his computer. So they don’t need it and that’s why they gave it back. The same thing with his cell phone.
So we have David Pike admitting he was laundering money for Ruja and OneCoin, but his partner Mark Scott had no clue OneCoin was operating illegally and he wasn’t laundering money. Everything he did was totally legitimate. Yeah right.
Hey Mark, I have a bridge to sell you which I know you will buy.
Frank Schneider is supposedly being extradited under very strange circumstances, why is his indictment, if it exists, still sealed?
Why arrest him in France which is notoriously difficult to extradite from for financial crimes and not Luxemburg which is a small and powerless jurisdiction.
DOJ didn’t seal MacAfee’s indictment once indictment proceedings started. Additionally, Schneider directed money laundering for OC allegedly.
As to why Ruja isn’t on the Public Red Notice list it is because (a) No one cares enough (b) she is being protected.
There is no “secret” reason to keep a notorious person off the public Red Notice list when they are notorious and their indictment is unsealed.
I smell EU politics. The same EU that owns ccTLD EU from which OneCoin is still operating.
Schneider wasn’t arrested in Luxembourg because he’s got heavy political connections.
Rather take chances with France than have another Kristijan Krstic farce.
Hi Oz:
Luxemburg government would not normally stand up to the US on behalf of an alleged swindler and wire tapper unless the EU was involved.
The smaller the NATO government, the more likely they will cooperate.
Aside from France, Austria, and Switzerland, these European jurisdictions are usually pretty cooperative with extraditions that are non political.
express.co.uk/news/world/1251230/Jean-Claude-Juncker-news-Luxembourg-spy-wiretap-court-case-latest
Not going to pretend to be an expert on European countries, but:
Luxembourg – $73.26 bill economy
Serbia – $52.96 bill economy
Serbian govt screwed DOJ over and it wasn’t a political case. Schneider is literally a former Luxembourg spy-master.
If Schneider was arrested in Luxembourg chances are he’d officially hang himself in prison, die building an orphanage in India, befriend a UAE Sheik, saw off his own ankle and dump it in the ocean for the cops to find, go out for a drive and then dump his SUV with the keys in it etc.
Then once he’s unofficially released Schneider would pull a Ruja and never be seen again.
Indeed it makes no sense IMO to keep Ruja on the private Red Notice list, because she knows anyway that she’s on it.
Plus it would work strongly against OneCoin if Ruja was publicly on the Red Notice list which anybody could easily check, so it’s really unfortunate that Interpol won’t make it public.
Non-public Red Notice makes it possible for the OneCoin scammers to claim that Ruja is not hiding and there is no search warrant out for her, like KingJayms claimed on a webinar on March 25.
Yes there’s an active indictment on the DOJ website, but that doesn’t prevent KingJayms to claim nobody is searching for her:
youtu.be/pdSu_yBVm4k?t=1503
Also I think it would have made a huge difference if even a 15 seconds of Konstantin’s testimony was publicly available on a video. OneCoin would be long gone. But no.
Instead the scam continues, and they are able to arrange pretty big events, like the Sunday Ecuador national event which had several hundred participants:
twitter.com/CryptoXpose/status/1450043691746344963
Oz – take it from a professor of political science and former lawyer for Serbian interests: Lux is a US ally and member of NATO; Serbia is a victim of NATO bombing with depleted uranium bombs. Not the same thing – Serbia will stick it to the US everytime.
Also if Schneider is being picked up on an indictment related to the OC case in the SDNY it has to postdate the first batch. Why no other arrests of deserving individuals?
Also the story as reported so far in the local Lux press seems way off base and a red herring – FBI agents receiving medals from the French police in a pending extradition case where no crime was committed in France? WTF, that does not happen.
Yannick seems like a good guy, but there are some serious questions not being asked or answered.
luxtimes.lu/en/luxembourg/fbi-honours-french-police-for-arresting-luxembourg-ex-spy-60c33f22de135b92362128f6
Fair enough, like I said I’m not expert.
Still think France is a safer bet over Luxembourg for former Luxembourgian spies though.
All I can say with respect to the indictments is most of the OneCoin mob was indicted in 2017. We didn’t find out till way after.
I don’t know if that’s standard procedure but that’s what happened.
DOJ usually keeps the indictments sealed until the arrests are made, especially if the defendant is abroad.
However, once the pinch is made of several, the indictments are sometimes unsealed as in the case of Ruja.
In the case of Schneider I don’t see how his indictment could have been pending since 2017 and only executed in 2021 as he was not in hiding.
It would in any event had its origin with a Grand Jury, perhaps Konstantin testified recently before one?
justice.gov/usao/justice-101/charging
Are you sure? I would like to remind you that Konstantin Ignatov is not a criminal but a political prisoner of the United States. The claim were two postings from the former forum onecoin-debate.com by Igor Krnic from Serbia:
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Four months later, the same guy (“Jack.Candid”) wrote, among other things:
share-your-photo.com/32824588fb
Probably Donald Trump personally ordered the arrest of Konstantin Ignatov so that the dollar could not be replaced by OneCoin in the United States …
oh wow i like the political prisoner thing. doing a little research on k, there are quite a lot of people liking him. but reading the documents, he just came into the picture some years after it started, while all the others where ballin out there.
he was a truck driver before, has no real education(compared to rujas fancy degrees), and just look the way hee looks like.
i doubt he is the evil genius that all try to make him, because i doubt of his capacity of doing these things (actually he made every mistake possibel since arrested).
nobody can get r so k is the brother, he gets the spotlight. also scotts lawyer tried to emphasize a lot he wasn’t part of any transactions.
still being the face of it and this perjury thing will break his neck. lets see what theyll find on his phone.
by the way systemsceptic, why are you not discussing anymore? shocked about your assistent knowing what you didnt lol?!
@jonlevy
i have two questions.
so i read about the medals in france thing, and i suppose u’re european. how likely do you think a extradition of schneider might happen?
and where did you find the information about sebastian moving funds in dubai? so far i just found “mess of a phone” or something similar.
We now know a things about K. Those hacked files show he was near the top of the pyramid. Any argument that he was a dupe, parachuted in to take the blame, ya ya, are obviously wrong. He knew from Day One.
He is active on social media. He could have used his time to stop everything but he didn’t. He’d rather get into discsusions about soccer and how he is presented in the media.
If he did perjure himself and if he did have a cellphone, he doubled up on the pain he deserves!
stevie, i pretty much like that view but a few things are not that clear. i read the trial transcript two times and i doubt the being duped theorie, as all seem to be duped right? i read this duncan guy (who seemd pretty crucial for the sceme to pretend it has value) claims himself a victim, like all others. but at trial all the mails that were shown, were before k’s entry.
we are not talking about guilty or innocent. just degree of guilt.
haha i read someone here dissed k on the net. i dont think he will engage in discussions in oc before getting sentenced. as i said i doubt he is the smartes, but not that stupid lol.
he will get some more years for sure. i think when armenta gets sentenced we will know more or less what k will get.
i am pretty miuch into this real crime thing and i think oc has almost comical villian characters.
i spent some ttime reading about them, just crazy there are people free like this udo guy, scammed with oc and then with some other ponzies, no consequences.
if it wasn’t for people inside the organization who worked with the authorities right from the start, gave the keys to the mails you mention to the US, reported Greenwood’s whereabouts, carefully documented the whole Dubai link and so on and so on there wouldn’t be any case for these criminal villians (I like the term btw) to answer because there wouldn’t be any evidence.
Anyone who stands up to organized crime is in need of some kind of understanding. Whole familes have had to be uprooted because they did exactly that.
It isn’t just degree of guilt. We can’t begin to appreciate the personal cost some people got just by doing the right thing.
it is just strange some people didnt stand up when all was working and they were earning money. or when they tried to contact oc victims with their own trash coins.
i am just not a fan of coincidences. especially not when they are so many. anyway.
i just learned about this whole case from netflix, amd if it wasnt for you i wouldnt even know whats mlm.
i absolutelly got it that discussions are emotionally charged, as people lost all they had. and i am with you that guys like k deserve punishment. still lets be honest, would all be so after him if his sister wasnt the big shit?
i guess his phone might be the gamechanger and show if there was more involvement then was shown at the trial.
Dubai funds and Greenwood:
jlevy.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/check-greenwood-bh.pdf
jlevy.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/BH1.pdf
jlevy.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Exhibit-6-1.pdf
jlevy.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Exhibit-5.pdf
Funny how Sytstensceptic disappeared from posting once David Pike guilty plea was accepted by the court. Now you don’t suppose……
Nah, I’m sure it is just a coincidence and he’ll be back shortly posting again (cough, cough).
@ Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington
Trust me it was Mark Scott himself posting here. The men is crooked as he can be.
I know him in person unfortunately and I know what he did in the past. I hope he goes to Jail for all the things he did.
This wasn’t the first time he harmed people where people lost there money. It is crazy for me how this guys manipulates the Legal system.
His wife is as crooked as he is. He is having a another legal battle with Marietta Halle in Miami dade.
I truly hope he get what he deserves in life.