Brank Review: Ponzi credits securities fraud
Brank provides no information about who owns or runs the company on its website.
On its various social media profiles, Brank represents that it is based out of Manchester in the UK.
On Brank’s LinkedIn profile, Daniel Noormohamed is identified as the company’s founder.
On his own LinkedIn profile, Noormohamed (right) cites himself as
an experienced expert level Application developer specialising in the PHP (including MySQL, Ajax and JavaScript Development).
As far as I can tell, Brank is Noormohamed’s first MLM venture.
Update 21st December 2020 – A post left by a visitor to Brank’s LinkedIn profile names Nicholas Antel, Chris Hawk Jones and Alan Friedland as Brank partners.
In the comments section of this review, Brank co-owner Ari Maccabi claims Friedland “helped design this to insure we are compliant.”
In April 2020 the CFTC sued Friedland for running Fintech Investment Group and Compcoin.
As alleged by the CFTC, Friedland launched compcoin and attached it to a trading bot opportunity.
Naturally the trading bot, named “ART”, didn’t exist.
Instead of gaining access to ART’s high success rate at predicting USD/EUR forex trades and high rate of return from the trades as promised, purchasers of Compcoin were left with a valueless asset.
Indeed, Compcoin was eventually delisted by all digital asset exchanges and is now worthless.
Through Fintech Investment Group and Compcoin, Friedland stands accused of stealing $1.6 million from investors.
The CFTC’s case against Friedland is ongoing, with a trial tentatively scheduled for November 1st, 2021.
But uh yeah, this is the guy Brank supposedly hired for legal compliance. Rightio. /end update
At the time of publication Alexa cites the US as the sole measurable source of traffic to Brank’s website (100%).
As always, if an MLM company is not openly upfront about who is running or owns it, think long and hard about joining and/or handing over any money.
Brank’s Products
Brank has no retailable products or services, with affiliates only able to market Brank affiliate membership itself.
Brank’s Compensation Plan
Brank affiliates invest $6.50 to $6,500 in tokens, which are sold for $1.30 each paid in ethereum.
Through their backoffice, Brank affiliates convert tokens into credits.
Brank pegs the current internal credit value of credits to the rate of investment in tokens.
Affiliates withdraw credits based on the current internal value through Brank’s internal exchange.
The MLM side of Brank’s compensation plan pays on recruitment of Brank affiliates who invest.
Referral Commissions
Brank pays referral commissions via a unilevel compensation structure.
A unilevel compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a unilevel team, with every personally recruited affiliate placed directly under them (level 1):
If any level 1 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 2 of the original affiliate’s unilevel team.
If any level 2 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 3 and so on and so forth down a theoretical infinite number of levels.
Brank caps payable unilevel team levels at seven. Referral commissions are paid as a percentage of funds invested across these seven levels.
Referral commission percentages tied to an affiliate’s token investment balance:
- have 0 to 249 tokens in your wallet and receive 1% on level 1 (personally recruited affiliates), 0.5% on levels 2 and 3 and 0.2% on levels 4 to 7
- have 250 to 499 tokens in your wallet and receive 2.5% on level 1, 1.5% on level 2, 1% on level 3 and 0.5% on levels 4 to 7
- have 500 to 999 tokens in your wallet and receive 5% on level 1, 3% on level 2, 2% on level 3, 1.5% on level 4, 1.25% on level 5, 0.75% on level 6 and 0.5% on level 7
- have 1000 to 4999 tokens in your wallet and receive 8% on level 1, 5% on level 2, 2.5% on level 3, 2% on level 4, 1.5% on level 5 and 1% on levels 6 and 7
- have 5000 or more tokens in your wallet and receive 10% on level 1, 6% on level 2, 4% on level 3, 3 on level 4, 2.5% on level 5, 1.5% on level 6 and 1% on level 7
Note that Brank calculates referral commissions on a reduced $1 per token value (tokens are $1.30 to invest in).
Also note that referral commissions are paid 80% in credits and 20% in tokens.
Trading Tournament Referral Commissions
Within Brank are various trading tournaments affiliates can participate in.
Each tournament has a corresponding token cost of entry.
If an affiliate enters a tournament and someone from across the first three levels of their unilevel team wins credits in the same tournament, a referral commission in credits is paid out.
- 5% if the winning affiliate is on the first level of your unilevel team
- 3% if the winning affiliate is on the second level of your unilevel team
- 2% if the winning affiliate is on the third level of your unilevel team
As with standard referral commissions, 80% of trading tournament commissions are paid in credits and 20% in tokens.
Joining Brank
Brank affiliate membership appears to be free.
Full participation in the attached income opportunity requires an initial $6.50 to $6500 investment in tokens.
Note that payments within Brank (both paid and received) are made in ethereum.
Also note that Brank charges a 20% fee on all withdrawals.
Conclusion
Brank started off as a gamified trading platform that launched in October 2019.
Brank’s original concept appears to have been less about investment and more about trading:
Ever wondered what it’s like to trade crypto. With BRANK your able to do just that.
We can analyse your portfolio, we can help you to make those right decisions based on your portfolio trends.
Some may ask, how do we know which coins to look at and how to actually understand how this works.
One of the options is BRANK Premium this allows you to get 1 to 1 time with crypto traders/analysts who are able to help you through the whole learning process.
The concept flopped. And so Brank has been rebooted as a investment opportunity through which existing investors withdraw subsequently invested funds.
In other words, a typical MLM crypto Ponzi scheme.
The gaming side of Brank has been reduced to a thin ruse behind which Brank commits securities fraud.
Credits can be earned by participating in Brank’s tournaments. Tokens are required to enter trading tournaments, with entry costing 1 to 100 tokens a pop.
Brank’s trading tournaments are conducted virtually with play money. Each tournament runs for a set period of time, with winners picked based on who makes the most money through virtual trading.
But why bother with any of that when you can just directly convert your purchased token balance into credits:
The ability to purchase tokens and convert them directly into credits reduces Brank to a fraudulent investment opportunity.
The internal credit value is pegged to the rate of token investment, which allows existing token affiliate investors to cash out subsequently invested funds.
Theoretically the internal credit value can only go up, but this is true only for as long as new investment is being made.
Ponzi math will also inevitably see withdrawals at the ever-increasing credit value exhaust invested ethereum, eventually prompting Brank to collapse.
That the US is the primary source of investment into Brank should be of concern, as neither Brank or Daniel Noormohamed are registered with the SEC.
This means that in addition to running a Ponzi scheme, Brank, Noormohamed and its promoters are committing securities fraud.
One last thing I want touch on is Ari Maccabi outing himself as a co-owner of Brank.
Maccabi made the disclosure on a December 11th post to Facebook:
Despite Brank operating as a Ponzi scheme and committing securities fraud, Maccabi falsely asserts it is “100% legal the entire world over”.
Maccabi (right) is currently based out of the Philippines. Public promotion of his last scam, Mining City, came to a halt after the Philippines SEC issued a securities fraud warning in July.
Mining City remains illegal in the Philippines, and indeed everywhere else in the world.
As stated, Maccabi has ceased public promotion of Mining City. Whether he’s still promoting it in his private “Black Ops Marketing” Facebook group(s) is unclear.
Maccabi was also a promoter of the notorious BitClub Network Ponzi scheme, whose owners were arrested earlier this year.
Maccabi has been around for years and there’s plenty more scams he’s promoted, but that’s not the focus of this review so I’ll leave it there.
My point in bringing this up is it it seems whatever Brank was has been repurposed by Maccabi and whoever else from the MLM underbelly has recently signed on as an owner.
Brank is now being pushed by serial scammers onto their close downlines, and from there it’ll be unleashed onto the general public.
To that end Brank has disabled withdrawals until mid January. The company’s website also states:
All payments are made in ethereum and are non-refundable.
Whether withdrawals are in fact disabled for Brank’s inner circle or just the regular public is unclear.
To sum up, Brank’s ever-increasing internal credit value is unsustainable for obvious reasons. By the time Brank collapses though, it’ll already be too late for the majority of affiliate investors.
Maccabi and friends will have already cleaned out invested ethereum, leaving the majority of Brank affiliate investors with a loss.
Alternatively the US SEC and/or Philippine SEC will get involved, which will inevitably lead to years of litigation.
If Daniel Noormohamed is still based out of the UK, don’t expect anything there. UK regulation of MLM Ponzi schemes is, for all intents and purposes, non-existent.
One of Ari Maccabi’s core promoters on a one hour and 47 minute promotional video is a slovenly, “excited” partner named Duane Noble who apparently last promoted some scheme called “Enfurio” (whose website is not loading).
We were also introduced to some “blockchain expert” character named Alan Friedland who mentioned he used to have an SEC license for trading options.
Would anyone like to venture a guess as to why Mr. Friedland lost his license?
Moving on, we’re introduced to “business partner” Chris Hawk, whose only merit as introduced by Ari is that “he’s been living with me in the Philippines for nine months”.
My impression is that American men end up in the Philippines most frequently because of:
Failure of their business in the USA.
Failure at getting anywhere with women half their age in the USA.
Running from or avoiding the law in the USA (such as not wishing to periodically update registered sex offender status).
Greatly expanded access to women half their age who are desperately seeking economic security with any foreigner with a bank account and a heartbeat.
Greatly expanded access to uneducated consumers of Ponzi schemes.
Cheap living in a third-world dictatorship masquerading as a democracy.
But hey! Why not trade YOUR real money for their “tokens”?
What could POSSIBLY go wrong?
SD
Brank IS a gamified trading platform. Not sure how you see an investment.
People buy tokens to play a game of trading – a skill based game. They win credits they cash out thru the Brank engine which matches sellers with buyers which means they’re not earning from the company at all.
There is no funny business here and one of the owners – Alan – was licensed with the SEC and currently owns CoinLock a crypto exchange. How you get an investment out of that I will never know
Was I not clear enough?
I sign up as a Brank affiliate and invest in tokens. Brank pays me a weekly ROI in credits based on how much I invest.
Brank pegs the internal credit value based on how much has been invested.
I can acquire more credits via increasing my investment and/or recruiting new affiliate investors.
I cash out my credits through Brank’s internal exchange. Withdrawal requests are paid with subsequently invested funds.
Ticks the boxes for securities fraud (Brank and its owners/executives are not registered to offer securities), Ponzi fraud and pyramid fraud.
The attached gamified trading platform is smoke and mirrors. The above investment scheme is what is actually being marketed.
You don’t “invest” in tokens. You buy tokens to play a game of trading. Credits have no value outside our platform. Same as when you go to an arcade and buy a bunch of tokens to play.
People who cash out are selling directly to buyers who want to play, so no the money does not come from subsequently invested funds.
You are making shit up. The amount people earn is tiny. This is not an investment.
There is no daily pay, no bullshit at all. You earn credits. You can buy tokens. We don’t pay people at all. They are paid from the players.
Sure I do. I invest in tokens and Brank pays me a weekly ROI in credits, based on how much I’ve invested.
If I recruit new investors I get more credits, which I eventually cash out.
Calling a weekly ROI an “airdrop” doesn’t make it any less of a weekly ROI.
Arcade tokens are reedemable for prizes, not cash. And you can’t obtain them by directly handing money over to the arcade.
Any further derail comparisons will be marked as spam.
Brank owns the internal exchange. Brank pays withdrawal requests, with player’s money (subsequently invested funds).
You can attempt to dress up a securities offering any which way you want. You and I both know I can spot a Ponzi a mile away.
No there is NO WEEKLY ROI. The affiliate program simply pays different commission levels on PURCHASES only of tokens based on how many tokens one is holding in their wallet.
NO ROI on anything. No automatic earning on anything. Don’t play, don’t sell tokens, you don’t earn.
Our credits are also redeemable for prizes and can be sold directly to a buyer.
PS. Brank is in beta launch. It’s not fully done. Second, this is the first and only launch.
The Brank Engine is the payout system. We do not pay anyone. The engine is designed to match a buyer with a seller directly and the buyer pays the seller directly. We do not touch any of that.
You can attempt to lie and smear all you want, but that does not make it real.
Is there or is there not a weekly credit “airdrop” given to token holders?
The return is realized through credits. Tokens are a vehicle to receive weekly credits through.
Brank owns “Brank Engine”, ergo Brank pays withdrawals.
How many times have we been down this road before Ari? BitClub Network, Mining City and everything in between.
You knew this was coming when you migrated from promoter to company owner. Regulators are watching.
The air drop of free tokens are designed to bring in new players and give them a chance to play.
The airdrops are temporary. And again the tokens are only to be used on our platform.
They have no monetary value nor can they be exchanged for credits or tokens. You must use them to play.
Credits are earned by selling tokens or by winning a tournament. Nothing else.
So if I sent you money thru PayPal is PayPal paying you or am I? The Brank Engine is nothing more than a type of PayPal.
We built it to ensure both buyers and sellers are protected in the buying process but we do not control it.
I am ok with regulators. Alan Friedland was licensed with the SEC and helped design this to insure we are compliant. (Ozedit: derail removed)
That’s nice. What actually happens is I invest in tokens and Brank pays me a weekly ROI in credits, which I can withdraw subsequently invested funds through.
Brank’s airdrop = a weekly ROI by any other name.
And temporary? Plump the gang of scammers placed at the top of Brank, build your credit balances and then what, cut everyone off and profit on an uneven playing field?
MLM Ponzi schemes are already stacked in favor of admins and early investors. This is another level of greed.
I’d thank you for confirming Brank is engaged in securities fraud as identified in our review, but Christ was that like pulling teeth.
Sending money to someone != investing in a business. If I purchase something from a store through PayPal, I paid the store through PayPal.
If I withdraw through Brank’s internal exchange it is Brank that pays me.
That Brank pays me with subsequently invested funds, within the context of Brank’s business model, constitutes both wire and securities fraud.
Securities fraud by definition is not compliant with securities regulation.
I am going to say this to you again… THERE IS NO WEEKLY ROI. We don’t give tokens or credits away to anyone except the initial airdrops where we give away tokens.
That’s like me opening an arcade in the mall and giving away tokens so people can come and play for free. Nothing more.
There is no ROI at all. Rather than make a fool of yourself email me at the email I used THIS time and I will happily zoom and show you the entire platform and happy to even show you the admin side.
Brank does not pay anyone. Buyers pay sellers directly using our engine as their paypal. Our engine creates a smart contract to insure nobody is taken advantage of. We do not make one cent when this happens nor do we touch this process at all.
There is NO investment here – they buy tokens they have to use to play a skill based game. Completely legal. There is no returns here. We do not pay any sort of returns at all.
(Ozedit: derails removed)
This was designed to help people learn a valuable skill and stop investing in trade for you bullshit like Torque, CashFX and Daisy. This is real. Like it or not, you are 100% wrong here.
(Ozedit: derails removed)
I sign up as a Brank affiliate. I invest in tokens and Brank pays me a weekly ROI in credits based on how much I’ve invested.
I cash out those credits, and Brank pays me subsequently invested funds.
Like it or not, that’s an investment scheme paying a weekly ROI.
Funds are invested with Brank. Withdrawal requests are paid by Brank through an internal exchange.
Brank does not pay an ROI in credits or in anything. We do not have ROI at all. Are you deaf?
I helped create this. This is not some HYIP scam.
I already told you people ONLY EARN credits when they sell tokens or win tournaments. They are not given credits for free ever. Not allowed!
We only pay when they buy tokens. Buyers pay the sellers from their wallet to the seller’s wallet directly when they sell tokens.
The Brank Engine only matches them together. Wake up! Stop twisting what I write and stop editing my comments. (Ozedit: derail removed)
Old mate Duane Noble said the quiet part out loud.
youtube.com/watch?v=HyK0VKOEEIo
Now watch that video disappear in 3…2…1… and choose your own cover-up!
A. OZ UR JUST A HATERZ!
B. Duane Noble doesn’t know what he’s talking about!
C. What video? There never was a video!
D. mumblemumble BUH MUH BLOCKCHAIN!
Calling a weekly ROI an “airdrop” doesn’t make it any less of a weekly ROI.
“Sell tokens” = recruit new investors. And I can also build my token my credit balance by doing nothing and collecting a passive weekly credit ROI.
I invest with Brank. I put in a withdrawal request through Brank’s internal exchange and Brank pays my withdrawal request.
From a regulatory perspective, that’s what happens.
I’ve been patient but If I have edit out any part of your comments they’re going to the spam-bin.
I just watched it and yes Duane said it wrong. I will make sure that does not happen again. But you are right with that point.
I get that you are here to warn people of scams. But you are wrong here. You need to see it yourself and see how it works.
I am happy to show you and put you in for free so you can see firsthand how it works rather than do a write up on what you THINK is happening.
Right. And just so we’re absolutely clear, you are going on the record to state the only way to acquire credits is to play trade games or recruit new affiliates who purchase tokens?
If that’s the case then I’ll update the review tomorrow.
Like hell I was wrong, I provided receipts.
Yes that is truly the only way. We are giving away tokens during beta launch only to get people to play.
During beta all people who signed up will be asked for feedback so we can make this player friendly. We are not doing anything funny here.
Again, I am asking you to hop on zoom and let me show you how it works completely and you can give us feedback.
You have seen me talk about the scams and for the last three years I have been building all sorts of things in the background. None of which have any sort of ROI or investment and offer services and more.
I am happy to show them all inside out and let you talk to the programmer.
I know how Brank works. The credit airdrop overshadowed everything else.
If your promoters are wrong and there is no credit airdrop, then I’ll shift the focus of the review as securities fraud is no longer a concern.
Appreciate that. All I ask for is an honest review. It’s very simple and I am the biggest promoter and I have made a whopping $218.
This is designed to last not to earn fast money. Yes the money in time will be great, but initially it’s just like your normal MLM only our product is the trading education component (under development) and the tournaments.
We have plans to have 1 on 1 battles, personal trading tournaments and later team tournaments with a playoff type structure.
We will be adding Stock trading and also trivia later. Keep in mind this is Fantasy Trading meaning they are playing with play money to win real prizes and credits.
It would really be a shame if that was this Alan Friedland:
From: cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/8148-20 (April 16, 2020).
Of course this could be an unfortunate case of two people with identical names who happen to work in the same field.
But the fact that the CompCoin mentioned in the CFTC charges was a shitcoin would certainly fit well with Brank’s Alan Friedland being presented as a “blockchain expert”.
If it is the same person, that would also go towards explaining why TheTruth is so careful in using the past tense in “was licensed with the SEC”.
TheTruth:
If that is true then, just like PayPal, you need banking licenses, or their functional equivalent, in all the countries where you operate.
In the US for instance, PayPal is licensed as a “money transmitter”, in the EU it has a Luxembourg banking license. In countries where it doesn’t have such a license, it simply isn’t available.
So, please point us to the list of countries where Brank has the necessary licenses to offer its PayPal-equivalent payment services.
You do not need a license to send crypto from one person to another. We do not touch the transaction and are not involved in any way.
This is just too funny. Ari, the great Ponzi pimp is now claiming he is an honest businessman.
Keep those laughs coming Ari. But the moniker The Truth? Seriously? You are too funny for words.
You wouldn’t know the truth if it sat in your lap and hit you up the side of the head with a 2×4. Legitimate businessman my assets.
You are and always will be a Ponzi pimp, and now you are running a Ponzi. Your resume is now complete. Ken Russo will be jealous. Have you recruited him yet? He has a large downline and is perfect fit for your Ponzi.
Like you, Ken never met a Ponzi he didn’t love. He will also vouch that you are the most honest admin ever. Of course he says that about every owner of a Ponzi he has pimped, so he fits right in with you and your group.
Honest businessman…….RIGHT. God you are too funny.
Ooh, sorry, not enough unnecessary superlative modifiers to convince me. Try:
There. That ought do it.
If the same Alan Friedland of Fintech Investment Group is involved in Brank, it’s pertinent that all the owners of the company are disclosed.
Ari, when you read this can you also explain why there’s an “exchange tokens for credits” button in the Brank backoffice?
Alright the review has been edited to reflect Maccabi’s clarification that the airdrop does not reward affiliates with credits.
In the absence of retail, pyramid recruitment is still a concern.
There is an area to exchange purchased tokens to credits right now that is temporary. As I told you yesterday we are not fully launched because we are not fully built.
We opened it for beta so we can get feedback and make changes. We capped the amount of people we allowed in so that allowed those people to exchanges tokens for credits where needed. It will not remain.
Alan is Duane’s business partner. Sure Alan helped make sure we structured this legally. His main focus was the Brank Engine as he built that. It simply matches a buyer to a seller and then connects them to one can sell to another directly.
His past is his own. It has nothing to do with us.
And to you Lynndel, you sound jealous and bitter. I was always a successful businessman and have owned many businesses throughout my life and I do mean brick and mortar, real businesses.
You assume you know someone without actually knowing them. You think because somebody’s name was heard 6 years ago in a ponzi they weren’t even aware was a ponzi because it was their first program that that’s all they know. Get a life.
For fucks sake Ari.
After wasting my time arguing with me last night, you confirming there is no way to invest in credits (see #18 and #20), and after I wasted my time today updating the review based on your representations, you go and confirm Brank is operating as a Ponzi scheme and everything I originally published was accurate.
That’s time I can’t get back and I could have been using it to do something more productive.
Right. I’ve reinstated the original review and switched out the weekly ROI for “you are able to directly invest in credits”.
I was correct in #9, I just had the wrong methodology of early adopters hoarding credits.
There is no functional or logistical reason to allow those who get in early to invest directly into credits, other than to guarantee admins and those who get in first withdraw the lion’s share of funds spent on tokens.
When Brank actually stops committing securities fraud and running a Ponzi scheme, and the compensation plan and full ownership details are published on the company website I’ll revisit.
Give a scammer the benefit of the doubt and get burnt. Every. Single. Goddamn. Time.
Have you ever built a system before?
With no people you need certain features to test that things are working properly. The feature to exchange tokens for credits is temporary. It will not be there when we launch. It is there for beta testers which is all we have now. You cannot “invest” or buy credits.
IMPOSSIBLE ON PURPOSE! STOP TWISTING MY WORDS!
What you see right now is by design. Wait till full launch and then do a review. Second, nobody is carrying anything forward when we launch except their purchases and signups.
And stop calling me a scammer. You have no idea who I am in real life or what I have done and accomplished in both traditional businesses and online.
You see one thing… programs. I have done CPA for 18 years and never even had a warning. When I own it, IT WILL BE DONE RIGHT.
Nah sorry mate. Letting people convert tokens in credits is defacto investment into credits.
Credit value is pegged to the rate of token investment. Affiliates acquire more credits via direct investment or recruiting new investors.
Withdrawals are paid out of invested funds.
Right now that’s how Brank is operating and it’s securities fraud and a Ponzi scheme business model.
I don’t care if it’s temporary, fraud is fraud.
I don’t care who you are in real life. People who promote and run Ponzi schemes are scammers. I don’t need to say anything more than that.
They cannot convert tokens to credits. That is there for testing. I just said this. That will be gone in a matter of days completely. Again, this is NOT final. We are NOT launched. We are in BETA LAUNCH.
Why? We wanted feedback so we can give traders and players what they want. You cannot ask people for their opinion without giving them something to use and play.
Also, are you aware that people earn free tokens as a free member?
All they have to do is play in a few tournaments. Withdrawals are NOT paid from money paid to us. NOT TRUE AT ALL IN ANY WAY.
The Brank Engine just matches a seller to a buyer and the buyer pays the seller directly.
So according to you, any mistake you have made in your life is who you are and that’s that.
Good to know that is how you view everyone. Does that apply to you too and your mistakes?
Dress it up however you want. You announced Brank’s relaunch almost two weeks ago. Plenty of time to onboard the inner circle, get them to invest, click a button and receive credits.
Brank is a stacked playing field, with those who invested first able to convert their tokens into credits at the click of a button.
This is a record of that. When you do re-relaunch I’ll be happy to revisit the opportunity.
This review will serve as a record of how Brank was relaunched with securities fraud and direct investment into credits for early adopters made possible.
I’d certainly want to know that if I was looking to join whenever you decide to stop letting affiliates invest directly into credits.
What you add on to the functionality of affiliates investing in tokens, clicking a button and receiving credits, the value of which is pegged to the rate of funds entering the company, and then withdrawing credits for funds spent on tokens, is irrelevant.
Cut the crap Ari. You don’t get to steal a bunch of money in Ponzi schemes over the years and then wash yourself clean by claiming it was all a mistake.
People don’t make the same mistake over and over again for 10+ years. You made a conscious choice to promote and profit from scams and that makes you a scammer.
Not only that, when it was pointed out to you that BitClub Network and Mining City were scams, you argued otherwise. You told your downlines that I didn’t know what I was talking about.
You had to, otherwise you wouldn’t have been able to recruit anyone. In denying fraud you are complicit in each and every Ponzi scheme yhou have ever promoted. Mistakes my ass.
CannerGrow, Dunamis, there’s honestly too many “mistakes” to list. Apart from BitClub Network, this is literally just the last 1-2 years.
You are who you are. Own it.
And on this note:
So right now, with withdrawals disabled, where is the ethereum being invested into tokens/credits going?
I hate all this back and forth. You know I know who you both are in real life. Just get on zoom and let me show you everything including what is coming.
You can be the first to write the real review. Guaranteed you will like what you find.
The people inside right now are just giving us feedback so we can make improvements. This is a massive piece of software – over 500k in programming.
Withdraws are disabled because it is beta. They can play games and sponsor people. We will reset everything except purchases, earnings, and referrals when we launch. They will be able to withdraw then.
We are shooting for second week of January to fully launch. PS. This is NOT a re-launch. Brank has never been launched. Daniel allowed some of his buddies to use it prior.
Will you be resetting token –> credit conversions? If not then nothing you reset actually matters on the regulatory compliance side.
Securities fraud can’t be undone. And changing the rules doesn’t negate securities fraud that has already been committed.
I literally included an official Brank promo vid from Oct 2019 in the review. Whatever was planned for Oct 2019 flopped and this is a relaunch.
I’ll revisit in January. Assuming Brank’s website is updated with full company ownership and management disclosure, as well as a copy of the compensation plan.
Since you brought up a few of my previous companies, let’s talk about them…
Sure I got roped in to Bitclub. I knew Joe from a previous company that was product based. I joined and I promoted it for 2 years…
Russ stole my account end of 2017 and publicly stated he booted me out. Why? For promoting things that were not Bitclub.
Second Cannergrow. Still going and it’s not going anywhere. I still get paid. It is licenses to do what they do too.
Another company that does not pay out much at all – you earn off sales only and purchases of plants.
Dunamis never paid me one cent. Jeremie Sowerby stole everyone’s money and never paid Darren or I a dime except for mining proceeds and that lasted all of 4-6 weeks prior to him running off with all our money.
You think I am a scammer here, but how? I never got paid. I got scammed.
The plan was legal. The attorney gave them a legal opinion they used to sucker us all in. They ran.
Are you aware we all filed police reports and all sorts of reports with the alphabet agencies too?
I did not willingly join a company – nor would I ever – to scam people and was not aware any were scams. They did a great job of selling us all and yes, maybe I was a little gullible.
How about the 600 plus program I have called out as scams and went against all the other marketers and called them out?
You only like to remember the bad someone does. How would you feel if the people around you only remembered all the mistakes and bad you did and forgot the good?
I am here trying to do something great for people and all you see is the negativity! This is not like some of the garbage programs you bash for good reason.
This is an actual affiliate program where people earn off of sales they make and tournaments they place in AND even free members can earn. Why not see what it actually is and write a real review based on what is final?
I have offered to show you in-depth before the rest of the world even sees it. All you are doing here at this point, is slandering our business.
Uh Ari/The Truth, for your comment, and I quote:
Your problem is we DO KNOW EXACTLY who you are in real life. Get over it. All one has to do is Google your name.
So stop trying to feign righteous indignation at being called exactly who and what you are.
Now do you really want me listing all the Ponzi’s you have pimped claiming they were the real deal and you did your due diligence and vouched for how real they were?
Token to credit conversions will be removed long before launch. We merely needed that to test and make sure everything was working.
Withdrawals are off so they cannot withdraw anything they convert. The credits they convert will be converted back to tokens unless they were earned from a sale or a placing in a tournament.
Those promo videos were made to let people know it was coming. Nothing more.
I myself drop videos weeks in advance of things I am working on and have to my list for a long time. There is NOTHING in any of those promo videos that is wrong. They are simple to excite the masses they are coming.
Shoot me an email to the one on my comment with my photo. I will send you the final comp plan and slide deck when it’s done and a video.
All I am asking you is to give us a real review. Based on facts, not speculation. That’s it. I think that is more than fair.
Which was a Ponzi scheme you proceeded to then profit from for two years. All the while denying BitClub Network was a Ponzi scheme engaged in securities fraud.
CannerGrow is not registered to offer securities in any jurisdiction. It is a flat out Ponzi scheme.
Doesn’t matter. It too was a Ponzi scheme you promoted, run by former BitClub Network Ponzi scammers.
Securities fraud is not legal anywhere on the planet.
Joining a Ponzi scheme, promoting a Ponzi scheme and dismissing evidence of said Ponzi scheme being a Ponzi scheme, until said Ponzi scheme either collapses or is shut down, over and over again, is not “not being aware of scams”.
These denials and shirking of responsibility for promotion of Ponzi schemes, and now running one, make you culpable.
I sign up as a Brank affiliate. Purchase tokens, click a button and receive credits (i.e. invest in credits).
I recruit “my team”, and receive more credits.
I wait until mid January and withdraw invested funds, at the credit rate tied to the flow of money into Brank.
That’s a passive investment scheme (people investing in credits on the marketing that credit value will go up).
Conclusion: Brank is committing securities fraud and the current business model is that of a Ponzi scheme.
You can deny it like you’ve denied me pointing out facts with all the other Ponzi schemes you’ve promoted, but facts are facts.
Right now, and since you announced it ~2 weeks ago, Branks’s business model is fraudulent.
In light of that, what you are or aren’t gonna do in the future doesn’t matter.
Why are you “testing” functionality of non-features?
See you in January then. As stated I’ll revisit Brank’s website.
Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington
If you believed that, then let Google be your first choice for a wife, a friend and a pet. Until you have walked in someone’s shoes you have no clue who they really are.
Do you see a bunch of posts on Google about all the orphans I help or things I do to help those in need? Have you seen my taxes with all the donations?
Nope. Do I in fact do those things? Yes! Why? Because I can.
The fact is you do not know me and you have no clue who I am or what I do. You are judging someone simply based off what you find online. You have never interacted with me or even had a conversation with me.
What you know is a reputation which is what others believe you to be. Your character is who you really are!
Most of the people I know think you and Oz are hacks. I don’t. I see both sides, something you are incapable of, but hey you have Google! 🙂
And you can free free to list all the ponzis you think I have promoted. I have seen lists that include programs I have never even joined and called out, and yet you call me a scammer.
I did not ever promote USI. I called it a scam. Sure I met Mike Keifer and I talked to him on video. That video proved to me he was lying and his body language proved it.
I was also never in MAP or TAC. I was paid to make funnels for Frank Calabro. I own a company that does all that but I am sure in all your marvelous research you already know I own 3 SEO companies in 3 different countries, part of a BPO in India and a mobile app development company too as well as a few others.
I have been in 8 deals and 1 ICO that went south. I am not proud of those, but those are a very small piece of my business and life.
Lastly, I would agree with some of your reasons Lynndell if this were all I do. It’s clearly not.
When you build a platform and the only people on the platform are the owners, you want to test everything.
We added that when we were not live and we needed to convert tokens to credits to withdraw. We needed to make sure the engine was functioning.
We will never allow members to do that which is why the withdrawals are off. Once we go live, that will be long gone. Once Daniel is done programming what he is working on and integrating it, that will be removed.
Beta testers are there to test and give feedback.
Why not just generate credits to test withdraw functionality?
If tokens aren’t intended to be converted into credits, why create that functionality to test to begin with?
Old mate Duane Noble and friends aren’t promoting Brank as a beta tester platform, they’re promoting it as a launched business opportunity.
At the time Bitclub launched nobody knew what bitcoin was. it was not a security until they made it a commodity. They were also on the blockchain. How on earth would anyone other than the owners know they were cheating us all?
Cannergrow is not a security. You buy a plant you earn off your own plant. 2 harvests per year. You make about $300 a year. Another program I have been in two years that is designed to last but pays little. It has paid me less than 8K in 2 years.
Dunamis had zero to do with Bitclub. Jeremie was the sole owner and he was never in Bitclub. He hired Joe after he left Bitclub. Huge difference. And yes the model was legal. We spoke to attorneys ourselves. Selling hosting and paying commissions off hosting is not illegal. Ask GoDaddy. Ask all of the hosting ocmpanies. Paying you profits off your own machine is also not a security. You own the machine.
MLM + passive investment scheme has been a securities offering long before bitcoin and BitClub Network came along.
There has never been an exemption for passive crypto investment opportunities in the Securities and Exchange Act.
invest money and collect a passive return.
It is very much an illegal unregistered securities offering. Why? Because it’s a Ponzi scheme.
Legitimate investment companies don’t opt to operate illegally.
You want to parrot the “profits come from plants” bullshit? Provide audited financial reports filed with financial regulators confirming as much.
They don’t exist. Why? Because Cannergrow is a Ponzi scheme.
The business model was BitClub Network 2.0. Same Ponzi scam model.
See DOJ v. BitClub Network for evidence committing securities fraud and running Ponzi schemes is not legal.
Get better attorneys.
Nobody said it was. Ditto mining. MLM + passive returns = securities offering.
With respect to securities regulation, how passive returns are generated is irrelevant.
Not registered with financial regulators? Unregistered securities offering.
Unregistered securities offerings = illegal.
I want all of you to know this one thing… I am not here trying to defend my past mistakes.
I own them and that is why I started teaching people how to spot HYIPs and etc… I did not know myself when I got started 6 years ago and nobody was running around telling you what they were. They lied to sign you up.
By trade, I am a copywriter and I am one of the oldest emailers in the business. People come to get me in because of these things. I excel at whatever I do because I know the business.
You guys have ripped my ass – some rightfully so and others not so – but when that happened, it made me pull back and re-evaluate who I did business with.
If you have not noticed I am at war with almost every scammer in the world over the shit I call out. Yes it cost me money, but right is right and wrong is wrong.
As a Christian I would never promote or build something I own designed to scam people. We have enough of those people in the world.
All of the projects we have been working on from a brand new social media platform to Brank to a marketing system similar to ClickFunnels to Black Ops Live will all be straight affiliate programs.
No funny business, no ROI bs, nothing funny in any of them. You will see in time and I am happy to show you all prior to launch to get your feedback.
I want to build things that last. I am not into wasting my money or talents to build shit that falls apart.
When that happens I lose subscribers and trust which is not good for a long term future.
Are you aware cannergrow is fully licensed to do what they do in Switzerland? They showed us the license.
Explain how I buy a plant and earn money on my plant only is a security. You buy a plant, then when harvest comes you sell your flowers and you earn your cut and they take a percent as a commission to sell it to the lab.
This is not based off combined plants but from your plant alone. If it were all plants I would have made hundreds of thousands. I have made so little with over 8K members. Surely a ponzi would pay better than this:
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Lastly, you never see me in an investment scheme again. I won’t even risk it. All the owners lie to you and make unreal promises. The only people still promoting this shit are indeed ponzi pimps and thieves.
Promoting that garbage cost me money and time and even reputation. Lesson learned. Guarantee what we will launch will be clean.
FYI: Duane is promoting this as a beta launch. I have been on all webinar beginning to end except two.
First one my WiFi went down, and the second one I had to be up and out early the next morning.
Securities in Switzerland are regulated by FINMA. If Cannergrow is registered with FINMA then you shouldn’t have a problem providing legally required audited financial reports.
You’re welcome to confirm Cannergrow is registered with FINMA. It wasn’t when I published our Cannergrow review.
Cannergrow certainly isn’t registered to offer securities in the Philippines, or anywhere else in the world for that matter.
How much you are or aren’t paid by Cannergrow is neither here nor there.
Yet here we are with you in Cannergrow and playing the same “it’s not a security!” record. Go figure.
I sat through two of Noble’s Brank presentations. I could be mistaken but I don’t recall him mentioning “beta launch” in either.
Nobody plays fantasy trading games unless there is real money on the table for the winner.
A fantasy trading competition is essentially a lottery (lots of entrants, one big prize assigned at random) only you have to spend time picking shares instead of numbers.
Most people who want a lottery will just play the lottery and not waste time or mental effort picking shares. While people who think they can get rich by picking shares will just trade.
Even rubbish boring games which fall between two stools will find a few hundred fans in a population of tens of millions, hence why some national newspapers run fantasy trading competitions in the middle of the paper.
But without an established channel to find players – the newspaper – you’re never going to get it off the ground.
So there are two possibilities:
1) Brank will flop with no interest whatsoever
2) Brank is a Ponzi scheme and will see the usual brief explosion of exponential growth associated with Ponzi schemes, until it exhausts its pool of suckers and collapses.
Anyone running around promoting Brank is doing so because they think they’ll be able to cash out their tokens at more than they paid for them at the expense of other investors. Not because of some fantasy trading tournament.
You clearly don’t realize that’s an almost exact duplication of the original Howey Test.
In the Howey Company’s case, the plants were orange trees. They maintained that they were selling parcels of land with orange trees on them, not securities.
The US Supreme Court ruled that, since they continued to do all the growing, harvesting and selling of the oranges, with the investors not doing anything except getting a cut, and contractually not being able to do anything with the land they supposedly owned other than let the Howey Company grow orange trees on it, they were selling securities.
I don’t think you’ll find a jurisdiction in the world that wouldn’t come to the same conclusion.
@Malthusian. Opinions. In the Forex space there are several companies doing this exact thing. Never had an issue whatsoever. There are several that are worth at least 8 figures.
We do not expect big numbers with the trading contests. Again, this is by design. We started here because this will be the smallest market and we needed to make sure everything worked and functioned as designed. Next we will add fantasy stock trading then we will add trivia.
And no nobody things they can cash out tokens for more than they paid for them because they cannot cash out tokens at all. We are very clear that they can cash out credits which they can only earn by playing in the game or by referring people that buy tokens.
@PassingBy
The Howie Test if applied to Cannergrow fails. These are the four questions:
1. It is an investment of money? YES
2. There is an expectation of profits from the investment? YES
3. The investment of money is in a common enterprise? NO
4. Any profit comes from the efforts of a promoter or third party? NO
A common enterprise means the profits are pooled. They are not.
If I buy a plant and grow it at home and I sell the harvest every time and keep the profits it is the same thing. If they sell it for me to a medical company which they are, we get only the profit from our own plant. They weight it and show us the weight before they sell.
Uh what?
Yes, Cannergrow.
The promoter of the investment contract is Cannergrow. You expect profits (the advertised returns) from Cannergrow.
…that has nothing to do with Cannergrow’s passive investment opportunity.
Thank you for confirming Cannergrow is not registered with FINMA and therefore continues to operate illegally in Switzerland, and everywhere else in the world.
Feel free to prove Cannergrow pay returns with external money by providing legally required audited financial reports.
You can’t because there are none. Why? Because Cannergrow is a Ponzi scheme.
I could careless about that company. I have not promoted it since it launched. I told you I promoted it at launch and when the usual shit heads arrived I stopped.
I left to develop my own companies to insure there was nothing dirty going on I did not know about. Ask Levin to give you their licenses. He has no reason not to.
Don’t need to. You can confirm Cannergrow isn’t registered to offer securities here –
finma.ch/en/finma-public/authorised-institutions-individuals-and-products/
Unregistered securities offering = illegal.
No Ponzi has an issue until the day it has an issue.
You would know these companies are worth 8 figures how? Did you and Darren talk to the owner? Look at their back office and coo while sharing a warm Oavltine? Even in this thread you lack the ability to apply the Howey test.
How can you say Dunamis never paid you a cent when you and Darren were bragging about them sending you to Hawaii?
FFS Darren was using his wife’s company to get people to take loans on the non existent rigs. Maybe instead of Toys for Tots you could make those people whole.
You also claimed to have signed 5000 people up for USI Tech, before you allegedly called it out. Of course any video evidence of this will be taken down by you claiming copyright infringement when fair use clearly applies.
Here’s a pro tip Ari, if funds are pooled, held by the promoter and endless chain recruiting is involved there is a problem.
If said promoter is providing the statements or back office accounting, and processing the withdrawals HUGE problem.
So Ari/The Truth with your permission and request that I post all the Ponzi’s that you have pimped I will accommodate you.
Not going to waste valuable space here with the full list as the list is long, and you know it. But before I do post some of the Ponzi’s you have pimped, I want to ask you a question:
Do all the charities that you say you support know that the money you donated came from criminal enterprises that you promoted and stole from others you conned into joining?
Now since you requested I post them, here is a partial list of the Ponzi’s you and Darren have pimped:
iCoinPRO
Royal Dragon Trading
Xtremecoin
EXP Asset
Cryp Trade Capital
iFreeAmerica
-Exitus Elite
-GetMyAds
-BeOnPush
-Traffic Monsoon
-TheAdvertPlatform
Bitcoinadstrain
Token Pay
Krypto Kingdom
Pagarex
Digitex
Crypto World Evolution
CGI Limited
4New
Bitcoin Frontiers
Karatbars/KaratGold Coin
Cannergrow
Mining City
Bitcoin Vault
7K Metal
Coinomia
Exitus Elite
Crypto World Evolution
Dunamis Global Tech
Xtreme Coin
Bitclub
USI-Tech as Jack Ribshaw pointed out you were in it before you were out of it.
Now if you would like, I can give your testimonials about each and everyone of these as being the real deal, one of the best opportunities I have seen in a long time, and don’t miss this or you will regret it BS that you gave and do give for every Ponzi you pimped.
And let’s not forget about the praises you gave for each admin and owner of their Ponzi de Jour vouching for their honesty and integrity.
Of course your friends think that Oz and myself are hacks. We are exposing each and everyone of them for the Ponzi pimps they all are, and the Ponzi’s they pimp. It’s bad for their business.
So you see, I don’t have to rely on Google to know all about you. I have been exposing Ponzi’s and their pimps since 2004, so I have first hand knowledge of you, and all the Ponzi’ pimps like you.
@Jack Ribshaw
First Darren nor I went to Hawaii. Get your facts straight. Yes they held a contest. Nobody won.
They gave away two cars they hadn’t even paid for and took them back. They never paid us a dime. Even Jeremie has acknowledged it publicly.
Second, Darren isn’t married and no he doesn’t get loans for people. We do not offer any of that crap.
Lastly, I never sponsored 5000 people in USI, I didn’t work it. The 5000 people are what Shohan put in, not me and I called him out for it and still have the screenshot from him stating he sponsored 5000 people!
@Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington
And I thought you were a private detective? Got to to be the worst ever!
iCoinPRO – NOT A PONZI. 3 YEARS OLD AND STILL GOING.
Royal Dragon Trading – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT
Xtremecoin – TRAVEL COMPANY – NOT A PONZI.
EXP Asset – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT
Cryp Trade Capital – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT
iFreeAmerica – DEBT SETTLEMENT COMPANY I OWN. HOW IS THIS A PONZI?
-Exitus Elite – PRODUCT SALE, 2 LEVELS, NOT MLM. NOT A PONZI.
-GetMyAds – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT – ALTHOUGH I WAS IN 2 WEEKS AND NEVER GOT PAID AGAIN THANKS TO SIMON’S LYING ASS!
-BeOnPush – 2ND PROGRAM EVER
-Traffic Monsoon – FIRST PROGRAM I WAS EVER IN
-TheAdvertPlatform – I WAS NOT IN THIS
Bitcoinadstrain – I WAS NOT IN THIS AND CALL IT A SCAM
Token Pay – NOT A SCAM AND STILL GOING. ITS A COIN NOT A PROGRAM.
Krypto Kingdom – CryptoKingdom… IT’S A FACEBOOK GROUP. HOW IS A FACEBOOK GROUP A PONZI?
Pagarex – I NEVER PROMOTED THIS AND I CALLED IT A SCAM AFTER FINDING OUT THE GETMYADS GUY OWNED IT
Digitex – WAS NEVER IN BUT NOT A PROGRAM – ITS AN EXCHANGE AND STILL OPEN
Crypto World Evolution – PRODUCT SALE AND NOT A PONZI AND 3 YEARS OLD AND STILL GOING
CGI Limited – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT
4New
Bitcoin Frontiers – PRODUCT SALE AND NOT A PONZI
Karatbars/KaratGold Coin – I BOUGHT THE COINS I DID NOT PROMOTE OR BUILD THIS AND I LOST MY ASS BUYING THEM LIKE EVERYONE ELSE
Cannergrow – NOT A PONZI. PRODUCT SALE AND THEY EVEN HAVE DELIVERABLES!
Mining City – NOT A PONZI AND THIS WILL SOON BE PROVEN
Bitcoin Vault – COIN AND NOT A PROGRAM SO NO WAY TO BE A PONZI
7K Metal – NOT A PONZI. YOU BUY AND COLLECT COINS THEY SEND YOU!
Coinomia – NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THIS!
Exitus Elite – PRODUCT SALE! NO PONZI! 3 YEARS OLD AND STILL GOING! LISTEN TWICE!
Crypto World Evolution – PRODUCT SALE AND NOT A PONZI AND 3 YEARS OLD AND STILL GOING. LISTED TWICE.
Dunamis Global Tech – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT.
Xtreme Coin – TRAVEL PROGRAM – NOT A PONZI – POSTED TWICE!
Bitclub – ALREADY ADMITTED TO BEING A MEMBER UP TILL 2017
USI-Tech as Jack Ribshaw pointed out you were in it before you were out of it. YES I CREATED AN ACCOUNT, NO WE DID NOT WORK IT. WE WAITED ON PROOF OF WORK AND THEY GAVE US DOG SHIT FOR PROOF SO WE CALLED IT A SCAM.
You have to be the worst detective ever.
@Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington
4NEW – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT AND EVERY SINGLE PERSON WAS SCAMMED. INCLUDING ME AND DARREN! OWNER IS HIDING IN DUBAI SO WE CANNOT GO GET HIM.
Like I said Lyndell, I want not in several of those companies. Second, iFreeAmerica was a debt settlement company I was a partner in. Debt Settlement is the #1 category for complaints in the USA and in 3 years, we had 1 complaint and it really had nothing to do with us. They got the company name wrong on RipOffReport.
I was never in MAP or TAP. I just built Frank’s funnels and designed them which is how I ended up coming to this side from CPA. TM was my first program in several years. The only previous was ViSalus with my little brother and it was 6-7 years before.
Lastly, Stop calling a digital product a ponzi. You see CWE (Crypto World Evolution), Exitus Elite, iCoinPro, Bitcoin Frontiers are all product sales. Only iCoinPro has an MLM comp plan. The rest are 1 or 2 levels.
You think everything is a ponzi Lyndell because you hate MLM.
I had to look this one up and no I was never in it. I never even heard of this until today.
And yet despite your protests here is Darren and whoever Deanne Little might be getting loans for people.
realscam.com/f11/ari-maccabi-ponzi-pimp-his-brand-4844/index6.html#post126932
It amazes me Ari that you are always bragging about being an 8 figure earner when recruiting, but play a poor old net loser that never saw it coming when the inevitable implosion occurs.
You rarely hear me talk about how much I have made because the majority of the money I earn is from CPA or coat per acquisition advertising. The people that know me, know this.
You are also trying to twist my words. I don’t “play” net loser. When I lose, I lose. There is no play to it.
Deanne Little… never even heard of this person and I have known Darren like 16 years. Could be his ex but not sure. They haven’t been together since I have known him. Darren doesn’t get loans for anyone.
When it comes to The Truth, The Lady Doth Protest too Much.
Ari, if you are being featured in this forum you have already lost. Your record speaks for itself
@Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington
You forgot to list Jetcoin. That was Ari‘s best business. Lasted a week or so.
People wouldn’t be digging out so much dirt on him if he wouldn’t be calling everything a scam. Apparently that’s his way to make his stuff look legit.
It’s kind of refreshing to see you own at least some of your “mistakes” for a change.
May I ask how it is that someone with enough education to be an accountant apparently has so much trouble distinguishing between Ponzi/pyramid SCAMS and real businesses?
Is it possible that the lure of the “fast/easy/cash referral fees” you earn by promoting these SCAMS override your education and/or sense of morality?
You know that your buddy Frank Calabro Jr made over two million dollars promoting USI Tech, right?
SD
@shipdit
Who is an accountant? CPA = cost per acquisition advertising. And frank I have not spoken since TM.
Nobody promoted a scam intentionally. You get lied to to get in and when you find out it is, it’s too late.
I’ve owned my mistakes since the day I made them. Stop assuming or acting like you know me.
Ari, please. If it was your first time at the rodeo you might have a point but you Sir have been to the puppet show often enough to know the strings and how they get pulled.
Or put another way why can Oz and so many frequent readers of this blog spot a scam without investing our money in them and you can not?
Ah, but that’s the point, money. We aren’t trying to make bank at another person’s expense while your history proves you have no such scruple.
In short, we don’t let greed guide us.
While you can not say the same you can (and do) say anything you can think of to try and rationalize your ever so very checkered past (and present).
I have been in 8 scams and an ICO. Only two of those companies are remotely similar. I’ve also called out well over 600 scams.
I don’t blanket everything as a scam. As I stated above – I would never knowingly join a scam. Not my thing.
No the model wasn’t the same – they weren’t even close. Dunamis you bought a machine from their partner – or from anywhere online – and only you earned commissions solely on the hosting. Model was legal. Machines paid directly to your wallet till the owner stole it all.
Handed over money on the expectation of passive returns. The business model was identical.
BitClub Network == Dunamis == every other investment scheme on that list == securities fraud.
Even a cursory attempt at due-diligence would reveal every company on that list was fraudulent in one way or another.
You still signed up.
Literally Millions of people signed up. All of those gave us proof of work and all of it a damn lie. Is that our fault too?
@TheTruth
1. How many people sign up to a scam is irrelevant. If they had your track record for signing up and promoting scams then they’d be scammers too.
2. “Proof of work” isn’t a substitute for registering with financial regulators and operating legally.
Who said anything about fault? Turning a blind eye to obvious securities fraud dozens of times identifies you as a scammer. Fault is neither here nor there.
My apologies for misattributing an assumed education commensurate with the title. Google would make the same mistake, I think.
May I ask what your formal educational background is so I can avoid any misunderstandings in the future?
SD
I am a copywriter by trade.
(Ozedit: derail removed)
@Ari, still trying to play the victim I see.
Here’s the problem with you: You are the one who claims you are this great Internet Marketer.
You are the one who claims you are a seven figure earner from your Internet Marketing. You are the one who claims you are a Millionaire Mentor.
You are the one who claims that you do your due diligence and investigate each program thoroughly before joining; and in some cases go as far as meeting with the owners.
Despite all that, you still couldn’t figure out they were Ponzi’s.
So much for your due diligence, investigative and seeing how real they all are mantra you spout.
As previously pointed out, none of us have had to join a program to know it was a Ponzi. We actually do real due diligence, unlike your claims you do.
You want to criticize my “investigative skills,” yet I have never had to join a program to know it was a Ponzi.
But here are just a few of the statements you have made after doing your due diligence, investigating, bragging about how much money you were making and meeting with the owners, and I quote:
And this is just for starters.
Despite knowing and hearing and seeing you could not see they were a Ponzi.
After 10 months being in TrafficMonsoon you still could not see it was a Ponzi.
As for these two tidbits from you, and I quote:
sounds like good advice for anyone thinking of following you and your recommendations.
Millionaire mentor and Internet Marketer my assets. You have been wrong more than you have been right.
Would you like for me to post more of your brilliant comments about your due diligence, investigative skills, and: seeing, hearing and meeting the owners and how real their programs are?
@Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington
Yet you are an private investigator and called a Facebook group a ponzi, as well as double listed several programs to make the list look longer than it is.
And again, you hear other people claim I am these things.
I don’t run around telling it. I don’t care about that crap.
Lastly, I have called out over 600 scams and been in 8.
600 is bigger than 8 so there goes your “you need wrong more than you been right” quote.
In your FB group you promote Ponzi’s. As far as your claim you have called out over 600 scams you are full of it. I doubt if you could name 50 programs you have “called out.”
You are still in denial that Mining City and Crypto World Evolution are Ponzi’s. It makes no difference how short or how long a Ponzi runs, it is still a Ponzi, and they both are Ponzi’s.
Guess I need to quote more of your brilliant investigative and due diligence skills for all to see being after all this big 7 figure earner and Millionaire mentor claim of yours.
By the way, I don’t hate MLM but their business model is the worst business model going. So you don’t know me as you claim.
What I do hate are people claiming to be a great Internet Marketer and stealing people’s money pimping Ponzi’s they promote claiming they did their due diligence, it was the real deal, they wouldn’t promote a Ponzi, they investigated and found they were totally legal, you know all the things you claim when you promote a program.
Oh by the way, just so you know: Our team has helped law enforcement shut down more Ponzi’s than you have called out, as well as caused others to shut down before they had planned to do as they were scared they were next on our list.
We assisted them in shutting down Traffic Monsoon, you know the Ponzi you were in and couldn’t see it was a Ponzi.
Now what was truly funny about TM was Charles made this big spiel about if we were working with law enforcement, then why hadn’t they shut him down which proved I was blowing smoke. Not more than 48 hours later they shut him down.
Sucks doesn’t it when your investigative, due diligence skills, and knowing how real a program is are shown to be all hot air.
One more thing. You can delete all your videos, FB posts, FB accounts all you want, but they are still there.
Let’s not forget this gem or yours Ari, and I quote:
This was the pitch for people to join Crypto Kingdom was it not? So was Checquit ICO the super-secret program being promoted in Crypto Kingdom?
As for not being in and promoting Pagarex and Digitex, you had this to say about them, and I quote:
But I’m sure no-one believed you were promoting them.
But one of my all-time favorites was your involvement with CGI Limited, and again I quote:
Now what makes this one of my favorites was you were involved in developing this Ponzi, not just promoting it, which made you a co-owner of this Ponzi.
I do have a question for you Ari: Was this the promo piece you did for 4New?, and I quote:
So how did your guarantee work out since this was a Ponzi.
I noticed that you failed to mention this as one of the Ponzi’s you pimped. I am sure it was just an oversight.
Checkquit was a ICO that never launched because they never got SEC approval. They never accepted a dime from anyone.
Already told you I bailed on Pagarex. I put out that post and then someone told me the people behind it were the same people behind GetMyAds. I removed that post and did not make a dime or a deposit.
CGI I already admitted to it. You keep bringing these up like you made a new discovery yet you still don’t know the difference between a Facebook group and a ponzi.
The first post was for Crypto World Evolution. Not Checkquit. Second, CWE is not a ponzi. You lease software and make a commission of less then 10% of the cost. Are you blind?
I put out the post on Digitex then deleted it. I did not understand it. It’s a legal exchange and I should have promoted that one.
I should have stayed the course. Instead I listened to people like you. Yet the exchange is up and running and growing for over 3 plus years.
PS. I had exactly one person join Pagarex and I paid him back the $1000 out of my pocket. His name is George William Austick. Ask him, he is on Facebook.
And NO I was not a co-owner of CGI Limited. I was sponsored by Matthew Nestler who was a friend of the VP.
I lost 10K. Ask Matthew. lol. Worst detective ever!
4New was the ICO I mentioned. I admitted to it.
And that post was not for 4New. It was for a real company that is still going today. Let’s see if you can figure it out, since it is still going and only in the USA.
And those 600 plus scams I have called out are facts. All in my IS IT A SCAM group that Shohan and his cronies got banned from Facebook so there are literally thousands of witnesses to my calling them out.
Just FYI: Brank is the first program I have had any ownership in.
I stand corrected.
This post was for Bitcoin Frontiers. It was a product sale of a video course plus live training for trading crypto. Again, not a ponzi.
Also, CryptoKingdom was the group I used for crypto in general. It was not for anything specific but I started that group in March 2017.
@Lynndel Washington
There were thousands of people in my group that will tell you otherwise.
Let’s face it – people are wrong sometimes Lynndel. I mean you called a Facebook group a ponzi. You were wrong! Are you without sin?
I made mistakes listening to the wrong people. I have been diligent about weeding those people out of my life. I have called them out on FB over and over.
By now you should know I am pretty easy to spot what I promote. I joined Chequit but it never launched. They paid us all back when they could not get a license in Canada and USA.
CryptoKingdom was started in March 2017. Chequit was not even in existence then. I used it for all my crypto deals.
So yes there might be an old post or two of old stuff as I stopped using that group in sometime in 2018. Occasionally I still post things there but it’s not active.
Yes this was for that and if you read what I told you above, someone saw it and came to me and told me the guys behind GetMyAds were behind it, so I bailed. George William Austick was the one person that joined and paid.
I paid him back out of my own money. Ask him.
I bailed on this one after I read BehindMLM. Big mistake. This turned into a gold mine. The exchange has launched, the coin is doing well. You guys got this wrong.
No this was NOT for 4New. It was for Ambit Energy with a system we had built for it. Had zero to do with 4New.
And guess what? Ambit is still going and going and is 100% legal. Pay attention to the wording… electricity.
Lastly, you seem to have a lot of pent up frustration. You repeat things and can’t even remember you typed them a few lines before resulting in double entries in your massive list which is actually 8 companies and 1 ICO. You call a Facebook group a ponzi which clearly is an error.
I believe in honesty. I know you may not believe I do, but I do. I also hate being the subject of your posts when you have the incorrect facts. To me that’s just more of a smear.
So from now on, just message me directly if you think something is bad. I have no problem showing you what I am promoting and why. Stop assuming… we both know what happens when people assume… ass u… leave me out of that.
I will show you so you know. You have advice to give, come give it to me directly. Rather than assume someone is bad, why not go to them and show them what you know and try to influence their decisions?
I mean it took me 10 months to join TM and I was only in it 6 months when PayPal froze their money and I left. Not 10 months as you claim.
For ten months, I was chased and hounded to join that company and if anyone had ever came to me and said, he man I think that might be this… It might have changed my mind.
Keep in mind, this was my first program. Not anything prior except product based MLM’s with deliverables. And yes, that includes my CPA offers – I sold products.
Lastly, the first program I have ownership interest in is Brank. I was a member of CGI and sponsored by Matthew Nestler. Ask him.
Ari seems to be under the misguided impression that “admitting it” absolves the scamming. It doesn’t, not when you keep on joining and promoting scams.
As for the recent companies defended:
Bitcoin Frontiers was a gifting scam – https://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/bitcoin-frontiers-review-two-tier-bitcoin-gifting-scheme/
Crypto World Evolution = securities fraud. If the bot worked the scheme wouldn’t have collapsed (having an unvisited website up != being in business).
Digitex was never reviewed on BehindMLM so this isn’t true:
I’ll add that dismissing joining Ponzi schemes, promoting them and continuing to promote them as “mistakes” also doesn’t negate fraud committed.
Earlier this year or last year you emailed me about someone impersonating you. The email address you’re using has perm-mod.
No it wasn’t. It was a digital and live course that paid two levels. I HATE GIFTING. I would never join a gifting deal and never have. Plus it is illegal in over 100 countries.
CWE did not collapse. And you are correct it was not a full post on Digitex, it was a in the comments of something else I was promoting at the time.
And FYI: In most of these deals I lost money, not gained. If were not for CPA marketing I would have lost my ass during several of these.
See you are still trying to deny your role in CGI, and yes I am going to hound you over it. You said, and again I quote:
Now why this is important? Because you admitted you were working “directly” with the owner and CEO and Master to build this, and you were “working behind the scenes” and can tell you, it’s amazing!
Yet with all your first hand knowledge you weren’t able to see and know this was a Ponzi to which you admit it was? Seriously?
Now either you were lying about your involvement in this, or you really were involved. There aren’t any other options. So were you lying in your post or was it the truth? If true, to be working hand in hand with them and not see it was a Ponzi shows just what you don’t know about what is and what isn’t a Ponzi.
Good grief, people who took a look at this knew it was a Ponzi and they didn’t have to join it to know it either, let alone work with them behind the scenes developing it. So much for your knowledge of what is and what isn’t a Ponzi.
Just as every time you claim that you met with the owner, saw it first hand and still couldn’t figure out it was a Ponzi says you have no clue what is and what isn’t a Ponzi.
Of course I make mistakes. As far as I am concerned, your FB page is a Ponzi because that is all you promote on it. I told you that is why I said it was a Ponzi.
I admit I was wrong about iFreeAmerica, and apologize for listing it. I also made an error and did list a couple of the programs twice, but that does not change the fact they were Ponzi’s.
But those programs that you are claiming they are still paying are not Ponzi’s proves you have no clue what is and what isn’t a Ponzi; because they all are.
How long they have been running has nothing to do with them being legal. Not a one of them is licensed and registered to do business anywhere as required by law. Their comp plan proves they are a Ponzi.
As for Traffic Monsoon, how you could not know it was a Ponzi is beyond me. On every Ponzi forum it was exposed as being a Ponzi. You were on those forums and you read the comments.
As you said you tried for 10 months to join before joining and in all that time you are claiming that you didn’t have a clue anyone was calling it a Ponzi; as well as for the six months you were in it? Seriously?
It’s not my fault you believed we all were just “haters” and failed to listen to us. You want to nitpick about if you were in it 10 months or 6? It was a Ponzi and you couldn’t see it; which is the real issue.
I am not the one who is soliciting people to follow me and join my programs to earn money, and claiming to be this great Internet marketer and 8 figure income earner and Millionaire mentor, YOU are.
So let me get this straight. Now you want to have someone tell you if a program is real or a Ponzi? Seriously?
That is what you are supposed to be doing and know; and if you did real due diligence you would know.
Bitcoin Frontiers was $250/$1250 payments gifted between participants. Attaching courses to gifting payments doesn’t legitimize cash gifting.
Whether you want to admit it or not, you joined and promoted an illegal gifting scheme.
CWE collapsed in late 2019. No website traffic = collapsed scheme.
There was a brief recruitment spike during COVID-19 and then it collapsed again.
If CWE wasn’t engaged in investment fraud by offering unregistered securities, they wouldn’t collapse every time recruitment dies.
You can punch “digitex site:behindmlm.com” into Google and see Digitex is only mentioned here in the comments of this article. So this statement is also untrue.
@Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington
Lynn CGI was a never a ponzi. It never even fully launched. They pre-launched it before it was done and Ed Reyes ran to the USA with all the money. He is running.
It was a full online casino that was supposed to be backed by a casino here. Matthew Nestler, my sponsor, took me to the office to meet with Ed and another guy who Matthew knew.
I was going to help with their marketing video (I am a copywriter) and we never did it because they ran. I put 10K in and nobody got anything out.
They already had all the applications here and were waiting on the approval. That does not make me an owner. Seems like you have an issue with comprehension.
All I am saying Lynn, is people are not always who you think they are. Try getting to know them. Yes, I made mistakes, but I have done a ton in this space prior to ever being in TM and for over 23 years in this space not a complaint ever until TM.
I admitted I got suckered in and once you are in, people come to you with all sorts of shit. I did my best to screen programs but I missed some. My people know and I have long talked to them.
I started IS IT A SCAM group to protect people. The assholes that tagged it as spam are the real ponzi pimps because they are still pimping. You got guys like me that made a bunch of mistakes in a short time that took a stand (and I am not alone here) and others that have done nothing but scam.
Yet, you seem to like to attack those that are actually trying to do the right thing versus those that are still obviously promoting scams.
I guarantee you and Oz won’t have a negative word to say about Brank when we are final and launched. Reviewing a program in beta is plain stupid because in beta is where all the testing happens. People cannot earn at Brank until we are live.
Thank you for your admission. How about admitting you were wrong on CryptoKingdom too?
Which programs are you referring to specifically? iCoinPro is one of the realest programs online – bar none. They created tools, a course, they do live training.
If you think this is a ponzi, you are wrong. There is no ROI or anything inside.
A product can be digital. That is legal. I know this for a fact. Microsoft and many others sell digital products and also have affiliates.
When you earn a percent of the sale, that is no different than any other industry. Just because you dislike MLM Lynn, does not make it a scam. Let’s face that first.
And when TM was live I was not on any forums. It was long after when it crashed. I did not even know about BehindMLM back then or any of the others.
I am going to say this one more time… You have never seen me say any of this myself. Yes other people do because they know me. I have made a lot of money in CPA. I also made a lot of money in my early days in MLM. Again in ViSalus. I do good because I understand traffic.
My very first business inside CPA was lead generation for mortgage companies, then Realtors, and more.
I owned a large mortgage company, was a licensed Real Estate Professional – both my brother and sister still are and my sister owns a Berkshire Hathaway franchise.
I am not some dirtbag that has been broke all my life that needs to scam people – I honestly just did not know and I am admittedly a little too trusting with people. BUT I am not a scammer or an asshole. I take advice better than most.
Here you and I are having a real conversation now… that I appreciate.
I am positive you guys could make a bigger and better impact by finding the people who are like me and got caught up and having a chat versus attacking people. Who gave you the right to be judge and jury anyways?
You just admitted you made mistakes. Should we all attack you every time you do? NO. That’s not how life is supposed to operate.
Bible says AM I MY BROTHER’S KEEPER? God said we were so why not have a conversation with someone rather than assume they know?
Just for the record, CGI Global/Limited was a Ponzi scheme –
https://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/cgi-limited-review-crypto-cockfight-betting-through-coinsinos/
https://behindmlm.com/companies/cgi-limited-soliciting-gaming-investment-through-us-bank-account/
https://behindmlm.com/companies/cgi-global-promise-millions-in-earnings-through-magellan-international/
Started with a bullshit gambling/token ruse, ended up with the Magellan International bullshit. Money stolen, sorry for your loss etc. etc.
@OZ
This is NOT true. Sure they had a video course, they also did live training. Franco did it daily. Bitlocity is the same format without the live training but I have yet to see a
review. Is that perhaps because we know who is promoting it?
Also false. The main website is not where the bot is hosted. It’s on it’s own domain. The customers have remained and there are several people still using the bots and they are still making new ones. I talked to Tomas about them not long ago myself.
You might be right here as it may have been on another site, but Lynn seems to think it’s a ponzi still for some reason.
My point OZ is I am not trying to fight with you. Yea, I want to make sense to you and I would like to have a real chat at some point so you know me – not the person you think me to be.
I am not a kid. I am 52 and sure I am aggressive but I am not a scammer. Unless you were on my team in TM, you would not know I made a handful of withdrawals in TM. I keep buying more packs because I thought it would last. I was wrong.
I just want you all to stop attacking people and promoters because many of us did not know. Hell, I tell people something is a HYIP and get called a liar more times than I am believed when I am 100% right.
Cloud Tokem, Plus Token, WoToken and all these wallets were nothing more than dressed up HYIP scams. Same for DAISY, Torque, CashFX and all that garbage.
Yes you can see my posts on Facebook and see that people argue with me all the time that they are real and not a HYIP scam. Am I wrong? HELL NO. But…
I did not even know what a HYIP scam was before. The creators are clever and they are the scammers. They took my money and my team’s money more often than not because I, as a believer, was putting my money back in. I have videos proving this and my team has seen them all.
To me, it’s the creators that are the scammers – the owners. The promoters are often fooled because the owners of these scams go to great lengths to make you believe they are real. You have to admit that at least.
CGI/Magellan never fully launched.
When I went into the office they had an entire team of programmers all speaking Spanish. They were from Ecuador I believe and they were building the online casino. Again, they were getting the licenses.
To me I would not call it a ponzi. The owner Ed Reyes just stole the money.
Had they launched all the games they showed us, it would have been just like every other online casino. That’s what we signed up for. To promote a licensed online casino.
@Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington. Reach out to me on (Ozedit: attempt to take discussion offsite removed)
Doesn’t matter. Affiliates paying affiliates in MLM = illegal gifting scheme.
Was added to the review list a few weeks back before the news went nuts. Up for review tomorrow assuming there’s no breaking stories to cover.
I’m not looking for a fight. Just correcting the false narrative that obvious scams aren’t scams.
I agree that owners of scams are scammers. Ditto those who promote and profit from them.
I’d also argue someone who promotes scam after scam is obviously making money in enough of them to keep going. Otherwise they’d disappear like the rest of the majority net-losers.
You’re only being grilled here because you’ve put your name to something. Otherwise I’d be marking discussion of other companies as off-topic.
If Brank works out for you then great. If it doesn’t there’s a record here that will be preserved. I’ll probably be linking back to it i a few years like the rest of them.
Yeah, the Ponzi flopped before launch. Based on its business model though, still a Ponzi.
CGI * and Magellan International were your typical MLM token scams. Invest, cash out and steal other people’s money.
Whatever they use to push that model, gambling in this case, didn’t matter.
I can’t speak for every online casino, but MLM token scams like CGI Global commit securities fraud because they’re Ponzi schemes. That differentiates them.
@OZ
I get your point here. Are you stating that if someone where to buy those things they must pay the seller and the seller must pay the affiliate? I will ask my CPA attorney about this because he will know.
Never heard that before. But it somewhat makes sense. My only question is if they have master resell rights then the affiliates can resell it an be paid directly. I know that is legal.
I don’t think you really knew the entire model because it was never launched. The guys from Ecuador worked for a company that builds most of the online casino’s around the globe. This was exactly as many others are with one exception. The MLM structure. The others are straight affiliate programs with some overrides but not a true MLM structure.
They also had live dealer meaning a live person in the casino playing with those who were playing online in a certain game. I believe the people were in Costa Rica where they software company had an actual casino.
First casino I had ever seen and my last… I don’t gamble in real life at all, nor do I drink much so that’s not my scene or thing.
PS. I appreciate you not editing the comments this time and letting them stand.
I’m stating when 100% of fees paid in by one affiliate go to another affiliate that’s an illegal gifting scheme.
Resell rights is one thing. Gifting funds to someone that qualifies you to receive gifting payments from subsequently recruited participants = illegal gifting.
Attaching resell rights products to an MLM gifting model doesn’t legitimize it.
I don’t publish a review unless I have the whole comp plan.
CGI Limited/Global’s casino angle was a ruse for crypto Ponzi tokens.
I have yet to see any company be gone after if they have products in this scenario. Gifting usually involves no products. Like MMM or Zarfund and etc… But you could be right.
I have seen lots of companies like this all over the world and some have been around over 5-10 years.
Full launch will be done Mid February. The new UI won’t be done until then.
So here it is the end of February and no launch. Since we were told this would launch Mid-February, one has to wonder what happened?
After all these are Pro’s who are doing this, and I am sure they have the company legally licensed and registered everywhere they are going to be doing business when they launch. This information will be proudly displayed on their website.
I am sure the website will have detailed bio’s of all the officers of the company and their contact information; as well as real addresses, phone numbers and company email accounts so people can contact them.
You know like all real legal companies do.
So, after reading TheTruth’s posts im 110% certain he huffed paint, thinners and gasoline as a child, then became a ponzi addict as an adult since his skillset would preclude him from actual honest work.
Sidenote: “not a ponzi, running for x years” is absolutely no proof of it not being a ponzi you intellectual dullard, holy crap what an imbecile.
Actually I think it was model airplane glue, but I digress.
Ari has promoted 23 Ponzi’s/illegal pyramid schemes, but only admits that 8 were illegal. Which means that for him to have a mere 50% success ratio, he would have had to have 46 programs that were legitimate.
And this is a person who is a great Internet marketer, an 8 figure income earner and Millionaire mentor; and he has been wrong more than he has been right.
He thinks because he warned people about 600 (his number) programs were Ponzi’s he claims they count to his success ratio. Yeah right. Talk about trying to fudge the numbers.
But one thing I do want to correct that he said about me and it is this: He said I was a Private Investigator. That is not true, and I never claimed to be a Private Investigator.
Eagle did have several Private Investigators that were part of our team, but not me.
I missed clarifying this when it was said, and I was remiss in not addressing it before this.
I assumed Ari was being sarcastic when he called you a private investigator, Lynn, like when he said you should make Google your wife, friend, and pet, or some other such nonsense. (WTF does that even mean?)
What kills me is that he claims to be a professional copy writer, even though his comments display the vocabulary of an average grade-schooler.
And what kind of logical path leads one to believe no reward = no harm? “I never made a cent in that deal. Jeremie stole all the money blah blah blah.” Not that I believe him, but it wouldn’t matter anyway.
Winner or loser, promoting a scam is being a scammer, just like cooking crack makes you a drug trafficker even if the kingpin doesn’t give you your cut. (“I’m innocent, Your Honor; the guy never paid me.” Yeah, good luck with that.)
Ari, I need you to help me out here since you are so into telling the “truth.” You see you said right here in this thread, and I quote:
but when you were pimping this you claimed, and again I quote:
Now you want us to believe that you never received a dime in referral fees for all the people you recruited into Dunamis, and you were still pimping it? Seriously?
Remember when Ari regaled us with these comments here about Alan Friedland, and I quote:
Well today Alan’s name is nowhere to be found on Brank’s website, and he was one of the “owners.” Now you don’t suppose it had to do with:
do you?
Nothing like having a criminal design your business to be fully compliant. What could possibly go wrong?
It has not launched yet because we have yet to finish the UI. We were slowed down due a difference of opinion and opted to remove some people from the project. Simple as that. You will see in due time.
PS. I have not even promoted 23 programs. Where the hell do you come up with this BS? You’ve called Facebook groups ponzis. You’re the worst investigator ever.
And if you want to meet me on a zoom I will prove I was never paid by Dunamis by showing you the chat with the owner.
Ari, Ari, Ari, I can understand how you could lose track of all the Ponzi’s you have pimped, since you purge all your FB posts once they go tits up.
So where did I come up with this BS of you pimping 23 Ponzi’s?
From your own FB pages (before you deleted all your posts about them), but since you have forgotten them all, here’s the list of those you have admitted to and those that are Ponzi’s that you still claim are not Ponzi’s:
1 Royal Dragon Trading – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT
2 EXP Asset – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT
3 Cryp Trade Capital – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT
4 GetMyAds – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT!
5 BeOnPush – 2ND PROGRAM EVER
6 Traffic Monsoon – FIRST PROGRAM I WAS EVER IN
7 CGI Limited – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT
8 4New
9 Karatbars/KaratGold Coin
10 Dunamis Global Tech – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT
11 Bitclub Network
Ponzi’s that you claim are not Ponzi’s:
12 iCoinPRO
13 Xtremecoin
14 EXP Asset
15 Exitus Elite
16 Token Pay
17 Crypto World Evolution
18 Bitcoin Frontiers
19 Mining City
20 7K Metal
21 Cannergrow
22 Bitcoin Vault
23 Digitex
Here’s your problem Ari: You claim to be this great Internet marketer, a millionaire coach and 8-figure income earner. Yet you give financial advice to people by encouraging them to join the programs you promote.
You tell them that you have done your due diligence, you have met with the owners, you vouch for their integrity, and despite all that every one of the programs you have promoted to them were all Ponzi’s.
So much for your due diligence capabilities and knowing a real investment and program when you see one.
I am not the one who is taking their money you are. You are the one getting them to sign up under you in your program de jour that can’t miss, is the real deal, and all the other BS you claim as to their legitimacy; and are Ponzi’s.
So thanks for admitting that your claim of all the money you were making in Duanmis was all a lie. Just as your claim your due diligence vouched for the integrity and legality of Dunamis was a lie.
Heck when you had Darren meet with the owner, neither of you two could determine this was a straight up Ponzi.
I love how you keep trying to claim that I am an investigator and a lousy one at that. Even if I was, which I’m not, my track record would still be far superior to yours.
At least I knew all those programs were Ponzi’s, and I didn’t have to talk to the owner or join to know that unlike you.
Bottom line is you suck at due diligence and knowing what is a real or a Ponzi program, and your track record proves it.
Ari, I stand corrected, there are 22 Ponzi’s not 23 that you have pimped. Realized that I had EXP Asset listed twice.
I realize that by listing it twice I have totally discredited myself as being, as you claim, a lousy investigator. So hopefully my catching my own error has redeemed myself as an “investigator.”
Well, the original owners of Brank were: Daniel Noormohamed, Nicholas Antel, Chris Hawk Jones, Alan Friedland, Duane Noble, and Ari Maccabi.
With Chris Hawk Jones, Duane Noble and Alan Friedland gone and now in NRGY, does this mean the ownership is now down to just 3 owners?
it also begs the questions: who will replace those who left, will anyone else leave before this launches, and will this launch?
@Lynn R Edgington.
Daniel is the owner of Brank. I have points. As did the others and they lost it.
Second, I have not even been in 23 programs. You are still lost. Third, many of those are completely legal and still going and still pay everyone. How on earth is a product sale a scam? Or a ponzi? They pay a percent of the sale.
If that make it a ponzi, then selling cars must be a ponzi as someone is paid a commission. You are mentally challenged Lynn.
And yes Brank wil launch. Takes time for programming.
1 Royal Dragon Trading – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT. Pulled my team out less than 10 days in. Lost my ass.
2 EXP Asset – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT
3 Cryp Trade Capital – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT
4 GetMyAds – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT! I was in this 2 weeks before I pulled my team out.
5 BeOnPush – 2ND PROGRAM EVER
6 Traffic Monsoon – FIRST PROGRAM I WAS EVER IN
7 CGI Limited – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT
8 4New – ICO that shit the bed
9 Karatbars/KaratGold Coin – NEVER promoted it. Joined to buy the KBC coins and lost my ass
10 Dunamis Global Tech – ALREADY ADMITTED TO IT – Model was legal. They did not adhere to what we were told and sold. They took off with the money and only paid a handful of people which did not include us at all and I have complete proof of this from the owner.
11 Bitclub Network
Ponzi’s that you claim are not Ponzi’s:
12 iCoinPRO _ Product sale of live training. They pay so little! No chance in hell it’s a ponzi and been running 3 plus years.
13 Xtremecoin – Travel program.
14 Exitus Elite – Product sale with Master Resale Rights so you can sell it over and over.
15 Token Pay – Coin and still going and growing.
16 Crypto World Evolution – Product sale and still running and paying
17 Bitcoin Frontiers – Product sale
18 Mining City – Real mining and easily provable
19 7K Metal – Fully registered in 5 countries they operate in and 100% legal.
20 Cannergrow – Legal and registered in Switzerland
21 Bitcoin Vault – NOT A PROGRAM. LOL! Are you insane?
22 Digitex – Joined and signed up 1 person and I paid him back. I can introduce you so you can ask and NOT A SCAM. Still oeprating with a license.
If you are a licensed investigator you have to be the worst one alive.
This is my point to you and Oz and many others on this site.
There are many of us who got involved with programs based on lies we were told. We did not know. Does that make us a scammer? Or a dumbass?
I admit I was stupid when I came to this side 8 years ago. I have been in MLM many years prior but product based companies. No scams.
Here the market is filled with liars and idiots that will say anything to earn a commission. I am not, nor have I ever been, one of those.
You guys could do far better than you are by speaking ONLY the truth because you don’t always. You guys hate MLM and slander any company that is MLM.
Lastly, you need to learn the difference between a Facebook group and a program, a coin and a program, and many more.
TheTruth,
what’s an 8 figure internet marketer?
Oh look who’s back, It’s TheHalfTruth *claps*
If you were to apply a weeeeee little bit of common sense and math, you could avoid all the pyramid/ponzi scams in whichever flavor they appear, from your Gifting scams, to ICOs,to trading bots, to Copy traders, to whatever else floats your bits.
For all your arguments of semantics, you haven’t admitted to half the crap you’ve peddled whatever way you try to name them, and yes the majority of the crap you posted are scams, so you are the worst kind of habitual offender. Fuckoff.
PS. “Still running”/”3 years” = Can’t be a scam? Are you fucking stupid? Or just a slow imbecile?
Ari, still ducking that you have no clue how to do real due diligence. You stated when promoting Dunamis, and I quote:
Those are your words, and now you claim you can prove you didn’t make a dime in Dunamis.
So you lied when you said you had made millions of dollars in sales volume and the number of people you had in your downline.
None of us who said that Dunamis was a Ponzi had to put a dime into it to know it was a Ponzi. We know how to do real due diligence unlike your “Claim you know how to do your due diligence.”
I bet all the people you got to join Dunamis are just thrilled to learn that you didn’t make a dime after all the glowing praise you gave about how the real the program was, how honest the owner was, and all your claims of money you were making and they could too. Now you are claiming ignorance? Seriously?
You said you checked out Traffic Monsoon for 10 months before you joined and could not find anything negative about it.
This despite that every forum where it was being pimped exposed Traffic Monsoon for the Ponzi it was, and again not one of us exposing it had to put a dime in it to know it was a Ponzi.
Not only that it only took us about 20 minutes to know it was a Ponzi, not 10 months to figure it out.
I am sure you can’t remember them all since you deleted all your content about each program after it crashed and burned. You know like all Ponzi promoters do.
Unlike your FB page, you can’t delete all the negative comments or ban the person for posting here.
YOU are the one who keeps claiming and vouching for all the programs you promote. YOU are the one who is taking people’s money by getting them to join you in them. Y
OU are the one who claims you “KNOW” what’s real as you have done your due diligence and checked them out thoroughly.
YOU Know just like all the wonderful things you had to say about Dunamis, and I only quoted a small fraction of your glowing remarks about how real Dunamis was; and no the business model was not legal and real.
It was all smoke and mirrors.
So to answer your question:
you are both. Especially when you rave on how real the program is, you have done your due diligence, you have met with the owner(s), all the while claiming you are this great 8-figure Internet Marketer, 7-figure Income Earner and a Millionaire Mentor.
As for your comment, and I quote:
everything you said about Dunamis proves you are exactly that.
Just because it is paying does not make it not a Ponzi and legal. The typical “it is paying therefore it can’t be a Ponzi” mantra.
I don’t hate MLM’s. What I do hate are Ponzi’s whether they are an MLM program or not.
Amazing isn’t it that: Ken Russo, Faith Sloan, Simon Stepsys, Darren Little, Joby Weeks, Joby Boughey, Mike Kiefer, Daven Michaels, Mike Sims, Lee Oakey, Michael Faust and like you (naming just a few), all say the same things about the programs they are promoting (how real the program is, how honest the admin/owner is, how they have done their due diligence), and then act shocked, surprised, stunned and claim ignorance when their program de jour crashes and burns because it was a Ponzi.
We did millions of dollars of sales volume. That’s not a lie! We didn’t get paid for it! And yes I have proof!
Sales volume is the total amount of the sales made.
You never once seen me claim any of this. I don’t talk about my money or what I make. Others do. I could care less.
If you want to see I am telling the truth go ahead and accept my friend request and do a zoom call with me. Happy to show you.
And let’s be real here… I know how to do due diligence. I am not the one that called a Facebook group a scam or a product sale that pays a percent of the sale a ponzi.
The one thing you cannot account for when doing due diligence is the fake proof of work some give.
I agree with this and say this myself all the time. Stop acting like a know it all. You’re not that smart.
Oh please, you claim that you did not get paid your referral commission for every person you recruited into Dunamis, and you kept promoting it? Seriously?
The mere fact you were in it and gave it glowing reviews to get people to sign up under you proves you didn’t do any of the due diligence you claimed you did.
If you had you wouldn’t have joined it in the first place, just like all the other Ponzi’s you promoted.
Our team has helped shut down more Ponzi’s than you have ever exposed as being a Ponzi.
Keep trying to sanitize your track record and playing the victim card. Not working here.
So much for your due diligence skills that you liked to brag about to get people signed up under you and Darren, along with your claim to be this great 7-figure Internet Marketer, 8-figure income earner and mentor to millionaires.
If they followed your advice they weren’t a millionaire for long.
How about we have all the people who bought your due diligence claims of how real Dunamis was, how you met with the owner and you could vouch this program was the real deal.
Bet they weren’t too happy they followed your advice and joined losing their money, as you now claim you did.
You sure weren’t telling that story when you were promoting it and getting everyone signed up under you and Darren. Everything you claimed about Dunamis was a lie. Live with it.
I’m smarter than you because I know the difference between a Ponzi and a real program; and I didn’t have to join to learn it was a Ponzi.
Scratch that,
I’ll be renaming TheHalfTruth to AnythingButTheTruth for all future correspondence because hell’s bells,most illiterates aren’t even that obtuse(or obstinate perhaps about their failings).
First clue? “I dId My dUe DiLiGeNcE”. Look buddy googling 5 star reviews does not equate due diligence,had you any business acumen you’d realize that forensic analysis of Financials MIGHT qualify.
Short of it is – you have a gambling addiction and an issue dealing with reality. Speak to a professional. The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem.
Again you are making assumptions. Of course I didn’t keep promoting it. They strung us out as they were building a new platform and when I launched everyone’s commissions were completely wrong. They promised to fix it and pay us then the owner took off with the money.
And we did all the due diligence. They had the facility, they bought the machines and they had them set up. There are videos of live tours of this. You cannot factor in the fact we had an owner that was a crook.
Show me once where I made this claim. Once. I will wait.
Yet not smart enough to know the difference between a Facebook group and a program or a product sale and a ponzi.
It’s right on your instagram page, Ari.
NOLINK://www.instagram.com/arimaccabi/?hl=en
Feel free to delete it. I already took a screen shot.
Scam’s a scam, you have an issue even admitting half the ponzi’s you’ve participated in are Ponzis, so who’s not smart enough? Try harder.
I won’t change it. I don’t run around making that claim though when I promote which is what Lynn was claiming.
And all that means is over my career I have made 8 figures which is true. Remember I been doing MLM and Marketing since I was 19.
That’s promoting, no matter how you want to spin it.
Lynn says you make a claim, you challenge him to find just one place where you made that claim, I find you making that claim in your own Instagram bio, and you say, “Oh, that’s different.”
Typical. You get caught in yet another lie, and claim you were just misunderstood. Ari, if bullshit were turf, you could be a golf course.
It’s like trying to converse with a toddler.
“Did you clean your room?”
“I sure did!”
“Look at it. It’s a complete mess!”
“Hey, I never said I cleaned it today.”
I must apologize. I was wrong, there were 23 not 22. I just forgot to mention Jet-Coin. You know that program you joined with Simon Stepsys and had this to say, and I quote:
Gee, I didn’t meet the owner and I didn’t see it YET I KNEW THIS WAS A PONZI just like DUNAMIS WHOM I DIDN’T MEET THE OWNER OR SEE IT.
This notion that because a program has a product therefore it cannot be a pONZI is Ponzi speak 101 BS.
According to you Dunamis had a product. You saw it! Yet is was a Ponzi. So much for if it has a product it can’t be a Ponzi mantra.
Here’s a reality check for you: It’s not whether or not it has products that makes a program a Ponzi but the COMP PLAN, as Oz has repeated to you over and over and over and you still refuse to admit it.
Increases the number of the Ponzi’s you claim weren’t but were you promoted.
As for your claim of not using your handle as being an 8-figure Internet Marketer, 7-figure Income Earner and Millionaire Mentor to promote your programs does not jive with all the comments I have received from people who were deceived by you making just that claim to give you credibility.
It is always one of the reasons why they say the believed you knew what you were doing, and let’s not forget your claim of you doing your due diligence.
And we all how lousy your due diligence skills are, even when you “SEE IT and MEET THE OWNER!
What a bunch of scammer blubbering. In the case of Dunamis the same scam was run three times out of the same location with different names. “Proof of work” FFS.
Ari the #1 way to avoid a Ponzi is never to pool your money and hand it over to a promoter to do with as they please. Always have an independent third party hold the funds.
The #2 way is to have an independent auditor provide financial statements instead of the same promoter you just gave your cash to.
The #3 way is to have an entity other than the promoter process withdrawal requests.
The #4 way in the case of Dunamis is not to listen to some career scammer when they bleat about something being legal.
The Howey Test very clearly showed Dunamis was an unregistered security. Hell the original case with the Orange Grove was virtually identical to Dunamis.
The #5 way is to not listen to unlicensed people like you Ari that non-passively promote passive income for commission.
Explains the unwillingness to admit to your failings. You LITERALLY don’t know how to do anything but lie and manipulate to make money.
No the Howey Test didn’t. At Dunamis you bought a machine from them or bought on elsewhere then bought hosting from them. The earnings from mining were supposed to go directly from your machine to your wallet. Promoters only got paid on hosting.
This is how it was sold to us and that is entirely legal.
Second I don’t promote passive income deals. Yes I got caught in them when I first started online 8 years ago because I didn’t know what they were. I have promoted anything passive in 3 plus years.
You bought dick if all you did was hand over money to Dunamis and hoped to collect a passive return.
That’s an investment contract (securities offering). Scam pseudo-compliance doesn’t hold up in court.
You might be right Oz but we talked to attorneys who told us that they way they were doing it was legal.
There is no co-mingled funds, each machine was to earn in its own. Then the hoopla began.
They gave us machines that were not even what we bought and when we asked for a refund and everyone got pissed they all demanded a refund and that is where the idiot took off and didn’t pay us.
Zeek Rewards had attorneys running around telling everyone securities fraud was legal.
TelexFree had attorneys running around telling everyone securities fraud was legal.
“But the attorneys said…” is not an exemption to securities fraud.
What you are talking about is fraud on top of securities fraud that was baked into Dunamis’ business model from inception.
Who’s attorney? Yours or theirs.
If theirs – well, it’s in their interest to keep their paying client happy, you are nothing to them.
More trusting random strangers rather than applying your own (admittedly flawed) critical thinking.
And the story keeps a changin. First Dunamis was the real deal because Ari and Darren did their due diligence, and it revealed it was the real deal.
What sealed it was meeting the owner, and then it was definitely a real deal and legal. Now when it went tits up it is now the attorneys told us it was legal so its their fault. What a joke.
Was Dunamis the 10th or 12th Ponzi you promoted?
The first Ponzi you joined shame on them. The second Ponzi shame on you, the third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, and on and on you are a Ponzi promoter.
So cut the crap. If you want to try and claim all those Ponzi’s you promoted were the real deal, then you are dumber than I gave you credit for.
And you are still here trying to convince God knows who that you were duped and the Ponzi’s aren’t Ponzi’s because they have a product and have an exchange.
Save it for your gullible followers. Successful Internet Marketer my assets. You have no clue how to do due diligence. All your familed programs prove it.
I hand some guy xty thousand dollars for crypto miners / an orange grove, which I then use to mine crypto / grow oranges by my own efforts = not a security.
I hand some guy xty thousand dollars for a passive return on my investment to come from crypto miners / an orange grove, which he then uses to generate my passive return = security.
Whether my name gets slapped on an individual miner / orange grove plot is irrelevant when it is packaged with a passive investment security.
As Jack says, it’s exactly the same as the original Howey Test case.
This is for the benefit of other readers as Maccabi has hardwired bullshit into his own brain – if he hasn’t got it yet he never will.
Ari there was a video dated April 9, 2019 (since deleted) where you flash the Articles of Incorporation for Dunamis as if that meant anything.
In the video you claimed Karina Serna was an attorney, not in AZ she isnt.
What I think you meant to say was with 13 charges and a long term suspension azbar.legalserviceslink.com/attorneys-view/MichaelTReynolds was the other director and the attorney you used to swear this was legal.
F- Minus Ari.
This is the very definition of co-mingled funds you duplicitous ninny. If the funds weren’t co-mingled you wouldn’t have been asking Jeremy for your money back.
The ETS Payphone scam was virtually identical to Dunamis and the Supreme Court said it was a security. I find it difficult to believe a first month Paralegal Trainee couldn’t suss that one out, never mind a licensed attorney.
law.cornell.edu/supct/html/02-1196.ZO.html
No one with half a brain is buying your nonsense.
Ari, one of your constant comments about my being a lousy investigator is that I called your FB page a Ponzi.
You see I did explain partially to you why since all you promoted on your FB pages were Ponzi’s. But it is a little more than that. You see in the hay day of Forums, Federal Law Enforcement called those forums, and I quote: “Ponzi Forums” in every Ponzi case they brought before the courts.
The reason being Money Maker Group, Talk Gold, ASA, and several others were exactly that. They all promoted Ponzi’s on their forums. Heck even the mods on those forums were active in the Ponzi’s that were promoted on those forums.
So if the Feds can call them Ponzi Forums I can certainly call your FB page a Ponzi; since we assisted law enforcement agencies worldwide in their investigations of these illegal programs promoted on those forums. Glad I could clear that up for you.
On another note, no I will not engage you on FB. FB is for my personal use not business use. Besides anything you have to say can be said on an open forum for all to read and determine for themselves who they want to believe.
Here’s a small suggestion for you: When you give a quote you really should give credit to the person who said the quote instead of you taking credit for it. See I can be helpful and not negative towards you. Consider this as my public service announcement to you.
Well, here we are at the end of April and this still has not launched. First we were told mid-February, and then 3 of the big boys involved left to start their own Ponzi NRGY.
One was that great programmer Alan Friedland, who suddenly departed when it became public that he was under indictment by the CFTC.
It makes no difference how they left, the fact that they did was a smart move Brank.
It is hard to believe that it is taking this long to find a computer programmer to replace that great programmer Alan Friedland, but apparently it does.
My computer techies tell me it doesn’t as these type of programmers are a dime a dozen in India if you want to go cheap.
Alan was never our programmer. He designed one thing and we didn’t even use it.
Daniel Noormohamed is the programmer that created Brank from scratch. He is a Senior Software Analyst who built Priceline.com, Booking,com, the pier grid in the the NW UK and much more.
When you type it’s like blah blah blah… a bunch of bullshit and lies to hide your shortcomings as an effective detective. What a shitty dick.
And it will be completed but Daniel has been sick and dealing with family.
Sorry to hear that Daniel has been ill and having family issues. Hope he recovers quickly and the family issues are resolved as well.
Ari, since you now love to toss around what a lousy and ineffective detective I am, you left out my being a lousy investigator. I Feel slighted.
But let me take you back to when Brank launched. Nowhere on the website were the names of the founders of Brank listed. NONE.
It was from the LinkedIn Brank account that it was learned that Daniel Noormohamed was identified as the company’s founder.
On his own LinkedIn profile, Noormohamed cites himself as an experienced expert level Application developer specialising in the PHP (including MySQL, Ajax and JavaScript Development). He never mentions that he IS THE PROGRAMMER!
Guess you have to be a mind-reader or psychic to know this fact if you are not part of the inner circle.
A post left by a visitor to Brank’s LinkedIn profile names Nicholas Antel, Chris Hawk Jones and Alan Friedland as Brank partners.
And of course your comment, and I quote:
You were also credited as being one of the co-founders which you now deny is true. Yet the other founders said you were a co-founder and you admit you are involved in the development of Brank.
When confronted about what Duane Noble said in his video, you admitted what he said was wrong and you were going to get him to correct it.
Rather odd that you would have this power unless you were a co-founder, or part of the management team. Otherwise Duane could tell you to pound sand as you had no authority over him.
I also find it fascinating that Brank only has one programmer for the very reason why you cited there has been a delay in getting the site done.
Usually a real company would have at least 2 programmers to insure that there was a backup in case something happened to the lead programmer (illness, family issues, death).
You should be glad that he didn’t die or this would have also died before it launched since there is no backup programmer.
But your latest FB post was over the top. I can’t stop laughing at how absurd and full of BS your post was. Do you really expect people to believe this and I quote:
Taken 3 years off my assets. 3 years of promoting failed Ponzi’s yes, but not taken off for 3 years. You must really think people are stupid and gullible to believe this tripe.
Yeah, I know who am I so say? After all I am a lousy investigator and now detective. Says the Ponzi pimp who know nothing about how to do real due diligence and no discernment as to the character and integrity of people they choose do business with.
Never mind that Eagle assisted in the shut down of 10 of the major Ponzi’s of the last 5 years, the perps running them charged and convicted, and clawback against many of the major pimps of these Ponzi’s.
Several of which you pimped claiming you had done your due diligence and they were the real deal. Yep a real lousy detective and investigator.