Ingreso Cybernetico Review: $50 – $3500 matrix scheme
Ingreso Cybernetico launched in late 2013 and claim to be based out of the city of Medellin in Colombia.
Heading up Ingreso Cybernetico is CEO Dwayne Golden.
Golden (right) first popped up on my radar as a silent owner/partner of Blue Bird Bids. Prior to Blue Bird Bids Golden was running a penny auction named “Green Apple Fridays”.
Green Apple Fridays was used as a backend for Blue Bird Bids, which was a penny auction opportunity hoping to capitalize on the “success” of Zeek Rewards.
Zeek Rewards, the mother of all MLM penny auctions, was an $850 million Ponzi scheme shut down by the SEC in 2012.
Dwayne Golden’s name never appeared on the Blue Bird Bids website but his partner, Mardy Eger (credited as the founder of Blue Bird Bids), publicized his “long-standing association” with Golden on his personal blog.
Blue Bird Bids launched in late 2012 and by early January had become embroiled in an auction bot auto-bidding controversy.
In an email to Mardy Eger, Eric Swaim, who was Blue Bird Bids’ Vice-President at the time, wrote:
We have people that sit and watch the auction basically all day and are accusing us of having auto-bots bidding against the field.
I hope that is not the case. We have enough that we are dealing with at this point.
I have been watching the site most of the day and have noticed that we have had the same usernames bidding all day. When I tried to look them up in our system they do not show.
It was later revealed that the penny auction script Blue Bird Bids were using contained an in-built “auto bidder system”.
In response to Eric Swaim’s initial email to Egar (quoted above), Blue Bird Bids pulled down their auctions in the closing days of 2012. The auctions did return in late January, however the opportunity never recovered from the downtime.
Sometime shortly thereafter, Blue Bird Bids collapsed.
Neither Dwayne Golden or Mardy Eger ever publicly addressed the auto-bid scandal. Likewise the exact circumstances surrounding Blue Bird Bids’s collapse remains a mystery.
After Blue Bird Bids Golden appears to have returned to Green Apple Fridays. However if one visits the Green Apple Fridays website today, a notice promising updates on Ingreso Cybernetico is displayed:
It would appear Golden pulled the plug on Green Apple Fridays sometime after Blue Bird Bids collapsed, and then went on to launch Ingreso Cybernetico.
Read on for a full review of the Ingreso Cybernetico MLM business opportunity.
The Ingreso Cybernetico Product Line
Listed as products on the Ingreso Cybernetico website are
- cloud storage
- hosting plans
- autoresponders
- “Ingreso Apps”
- digital product tools
- “IC Language Institute” and
- “IC Lead Pages”
While these services do appear to be offered at a retail level, this seems external to the Ingreso Cybernetico opportunity itself.
Affiliates are charged a $300 optional fee to be able to sell Ingreso Cybernetico products to retail customers. Affiliates who do not pay this fee appear to be unable to retail the services listed.
If one clicks on most of the services available they are sent to a different domain, with each of the services listed sold separately as a standalone service, independent from the Ingreso Cybernetico opportunity.
The “digital product tools” service is hosted on the Ingreso Cybernetico website itself, but is little more than an e-book library.
Of note are that some of the links, such as “hosting plans” do not work. At the time of publication, clicking “get started today” on the “ICHostWorld” website does nothing.
The Ingreso Cybernetico Compensation Plan
The Ingreso Cybernetico compensation plan revolves around affiliates purchasing matrix positions in five offered matrix levels.
Note that the Ingreso Cybernetico compensation plan is not provided to the general public on the company’s website. As such, the following analysis has been put together from a video presentation hosted on Dwayne Golden’s YouTube account.
Matrix Commissions
Residual commissions in Ingreso Cybernetico are paid out using a series of 2×2 matrices.
A 2×2 matrix places an affiliate at the top of a matrix, with two positions directly under them:
Under those positions are another two positions, with the matrix holding a total of six fillable positions.
Positions are filled in the matrix via the recruitment of affiliates, or affiliates cycling out of existing matrices.
A “cycle” is what occurs when an affiliate fills all six positions in their 2×2 matrix. Once this occurs, a cycle commission is paid.
Ingreso Cybernetico treat each level of membership as an individual matrix level, meaning there are six 2×2 matrix levels within the compensation plan.
How much of a cycle position is paid out depends on how much money an Ingreso Cybernetico affiliate spends on a matrix position:
- Entrepreneur ($50) – $125
- Business Specialist ($100) – $300
- Business Director ($500) – $1500
- Vice-President ($1500) – $4500
- Executive Vice-President ($3500) – $10,500
Once an affiliate has cycled out of a matrix and been paid, they are then re-inserted into a new 2×2 matrix. At this point the process repeats itself, with the new matrix requiring six positions to be filled again.
Matrix Referral Commissions
Matrix referral commissions are paid out when recruited affiliates cycle out a matrix.
The referral commission is paid out down three levels of recruitment, and pays the same regardless of which level matrix is being cycled out of:
- level 1 (personally recruited affiliates) – $5
- level 2 – $3
- level 3 – $2
Residual Membership Fee Commissions
Ingreso Cybernetico pay out residual monthly commissions using a unilevel compensation structure.
A unilevel compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a unilevel team, with every personally recruited affiliate placed directly under them (level 1):
If any level 1 affiliates go on to recruit new any new affiliates, they are placed on level 2 of the original affiliate’s unilevel team. If any level 2 affiliates go on to recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 3 and so on and so forth down a theoretical infinite number of levels.
Ingreso Cybernetico cap payable unilevel levels at eleven.
Commissions are paid out based on the recruitment of affiliates and their recruitment efforts.
How much of a commission is paid out depends on what level on the unilevel team a newly recruited affiliate is placed:
- level 1 (personal recruits) – $5 per affiliate
- level 2 – $2 per affiliate
- levels 3 to 5 – $1 per affiliate
- level 6 – $2 per affiliate
- level 7 – $3 per affiliate
- levels 8 to 11 – $1 per affiliate
Note that in order to be paid on levels 6 to 11, an affiliate must pay a $300 “Presidential Club” fee.
This fee is commissionable down five levels of recruitment, however the specifics of this commission are not explained in the Ingreso Cybernetico affiliate presentation.
Car / Lifestyle Bonus
A Car or Lifestyle Bonus is mentioned in the Ingreso Cybernetico affiliate presentation.
An affiliate must be a Presidential Club affiliate ($300) to participate. The presentation mentions additional qualification criteria, however no further specifics are provided.
Joining Ingreso Cybernetico
Affiliate membership to Ingreso Cybernetico is tied into the purchase of matrix positions. This means an affiliate will be required to pay between $50 to $3500 to get started.
- Entrepreneur – $50
- Business Specialist – $100
- Business Director – $500
- Vice-President – $1500
- Executive Vice-President – $3500
An affiliate is able to buy positions at multiple levels, with the total cost of participating in all five matrix levels offered (referred to as “going all-in” in company presentations), coming in at $5650.
If an affiliate wishes to max out the compensation plan (unilevel levels 6 to 11 and the car/lifestyle bonus), they must pay an additional $300 fee.
Another $300 must be paid if an affiliate wishes to retail Ingreso Cybernetico’s offered services.
Finally, note that all affiliates must a $25 a month recurring participation fee. This fee qualifies an affiliate to receive commissions through the Ingreso Cybernetico compensation plan.
Conclusion
Right off the bat, there’s something fishy going on with Ingreso Cybernetico’s charging affiliates $300 just to retail their products.
It’s the first time I’ve ever seen an MLM company charge affiliates a separate fee to be able to retail their products. The reason for that being that retail should be the core of an MLM business, not an additional extra that comes with a cost.
In any event, the retail component of Ingreso Cybernetico can be detached from the MLM side of the business. Affiliates pay $300 and then are paid out on single level affiliate sales. I believe the $25 a month fee is still charged, but otherwise these commissions operate entirely independently from the rest of the Ingreso Cybernetico business.
And that brings us to the MLM component, which is old-school matrix recruitment with an added unilevel incentive.
Ingreso Cybernetico’s compensation plan can be broken down into 5 separate matrix levels, each with its own buy-in.
Affiliates buy in at the position(s) they wish to participate in, and then set about recruiting new affiliates who also buy in.
Once enough new affiliates have bought positions at the respective level an affiliate has bought in at, they are paid a commission.
Nothing is sold to retail customers in the process, with all funds paid in and out via matrix commissions being sourced from affiliates.
Once recruitment slows down (which directly affects the purchase of new matrix positions), the matrices will stall. If enough company-wide matrices stall, Ingreso Cybernetico will collapse.
In this sense, the company fits the definition of a recruitment-driven pyramid scheme.
Services offered to retail customers are bundled with matrix positions, but are inconsequential to the recruitment-driven nature of the scheme. Affiliates are paid to recruit. Period.
The unilevel component of the compensation adds a “pay to play” layer to the scheme, with affiliates paying $300 to qualify to earn commissions on additional unilevel levels.
With or without the fee paid however, yet more evidence of Ingreso Cybernetico operating as a pyramid scheme is present. Based directly on their own recruitment efforts and that of their downline, affiliates are paid a monthly recurring commission that is obviously tied to the payment of a $25 fee that all affiliates must pay.
This fee, in addition to funding the unilevel commissions, qualifies an Ingreso Cybernetico affiliate to earn residual commissions and the Car / Lifestyle Bonus.
The referral commissions paid out on the $300 Presidential Club fee serve as nothing more than an incentive for affiliates to pressure their downlines into forking over the money.
Purportedly domiciled in Colombia (documents on the Ingreso Cybernetico website purportedly show registration there), why Dwayne Golden has registered the company offshore is a no-brainer.
That we should expect anything less from the guy who previously launched a short-lived Zeek Rewards Ponzi clone however, is unfortunately also a no-brainer.
“Colombia”, Oz. With no “U”.
The name makes no sense. Ingreso is “entrance”, and Cybernetico is exactly as it sounds. This guy is almost inviting General Paloma on a crackdown, on the heels of TelexFree investigation.
Thank you.
I been spammed by this scam every day. I thought it was like zeek.
Damnit it I did it again! Thanks for the pickup.
Will there be clawbacks for top earners?
And what about the guys who brought it to the states? Possible jail time for people selling?
All possible, but regulators in either the US or Colombia need to step in first.
why are there so many bs fake opportunities and the government is not doing anything about it?
this is absurd. i went to facebook groups to see if there was any good affiliate programs but instead i get spammed with pyramid schemes disguised as mlms…
K. Chang…. the name makes sense because in Spanish “Ingreso” means “Income”….(Ingreso’) with an accent on the o means “Entered”. That name is cybernetic income.
Please be aware that one word can have many meanings in Spanish… like Papa’ which is father or papa which is potato.
I agree these type of deals should be closed no matter where they are from if they are not legitimate, yet anyone can put a registration address from anywhere even if it is not a valid location of the operation, unfortunately.
Shame on them for picking a relatively ambiguous word, eh?
Besides, “cybernetic” has nothing to do with the Internet at all. Really, look it up in the dictionary.
I find it hilarious that Golden’s partner Jon Gillardi called telexfree a scam when his scheme is the same.
Important question Mr Oz, I just started ic and made sales and cycled. Are you saying I could be arrested for this?
You’d have to ask your local authorities.
Call them up and ask whether or not they arrest promoters of pyramid schemes.
Dear Oz,
What do you do to give people opportunity when can not get a job in economic crisis?
(Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempt removed)
I think network marketing and mlm are fine as long as there is a product. IC has a list of products.. so just it flow and people can make an income.
I my self do not build it, because I am not a good recruiter. But I appreciate there is more than jobs for a salary in the economy.
I think mlm companies are closed down because they start to form a power competing with states and banks..and states and banks don’t like competition.
They want all money to go up into their solid pyramid.
Not a pyramid scheme.
The MLM underbelly has long-since evolved. All pyramid schemes these days have a product. It can no longer be used as the sole yard-stick to determine legitimacy.
A company’s compensation plan is what is used to determine whether or not a business is a recruitment-driven pyramid scheme.
Ingreso Cybernetico fails on this point.
QED.
1995 called, the scammers want their conspiracy theory excuses back…
If you have to pay to join, you are a customer.
Too many people get foolish and invest in these schemes and focus on them when they should be looking for some type of real job.
When they collapse and lose everything, do you think their downline or the company are offering to move them into their homes, buy their children food, etc?
If I want to be a distributor of Coca Cola products, they would give me the distribution/delivery route for free? I would not have to purchase the rights or buy a certain amount of inventory each month?
If I want to sell McDonalds hamburgers It should be free to do so? Are you saying if I go into business as a distributor with one of those companies and pay for the distribution rights that I am a customer not a business owner?
I mean, I see your point. I agree that most MLM deals are just buying clubs at best, but your general logic escapes me.
Thanks for the response. My other concern is I ‘m in IC on a team that also promotes a skinny fiber program.
Should I just quit working with this team if they force us to join Ingreso Cybernetico?
I think anybody forcing you to do anything should be at the very least approached with caution.
You are not an affiliate in that scenario, you are a corporate customer.
From my point of view, yes. But I know too little about it to be worth listening to. You will need to make decisions like that yourself.
The fact that you’re asking about it indicates that you should. Most people searching the internet will look for information supporting something they already have decided.
Potential downside:
You will still be on his mailing list (I don’t know the exact downside in that, but I’m pretty sure there are some).
Please note that most people here don’t have any personal MLM experience. A few have.
duh no . if you are a distributor of coca cola then you are a distributor with investments and targets. and the coca cola sales team will be thrusting large sales targets down your throat, day in and day out.
product distribution is a very high stress undertaking, your corporate will be up your ass 24 hours a day. and when you meet or surpass your targets they’ll give you freebies and trips, just like in MLM .
Hello Dear Friends,
I’m part of Ingreso Cybernetico and after reading the full article I see many errors in the commission structure, payout and so forth.
One of the items to highlight is the digital products… any member even joining the “Commerce Pack” (Only $25) can sell the digital products for 100% commissions…I wish I could post pictures to show it here.
The Affiliate Partnership Program gives you the legal rights to the more expensive products to make them “your own” and that’s why you must become a partner IF you desire to sell additional products beside the ones already provided in your backoffice.
Also the higher business levels will give you access to develop your own app, get more bandwidth (just like any other hosting service) among many other benefits.
Dwayne recently conducted a webinar speaking about his involvement with such companies which can be found in his YouTube channel. The company is legit, products are awesome and the new security updates performed early November 2014 to protect custmers/reps/management all across the board.
Ingreso Cybernetico will be the top dog network marketing company by 2016.
P.S. The best business level which you also missed is the $7,500 paying $22,500 every cycle….it does come with many added perks obviously.
Close 4 of those a year and you’re part of the top 25% earners in the world…if you add all the other levels you may be in the top 10-5%.
The resale of PLR crap has no bearing on the compensation plan.
Like I said, the resale of PLR crap has nothing to do with recruitment commissions.
Such as higher recruitment commissions.
Matrix positions are what is being bought and sold here, whatever is bundled with that is irrelevant.
And well on your way to ripping people off for tens of thousands of dollars. That’s nothing to be boasting about.
You made some mistakes in the rewiew, members do not have to pay 300$ to retail the products. Products are top of the top, thank you for rewiew.
i am joining ingreso and this oportunity with digital products, i need them for my company to get more leads with help of social networks.
I will pay 50 and 1000$, and 300$ for presidential club, to get more money and 25$ for the products monthly. I am in insurance bussiness.
Have you looked at the compensation plan? When I looked at it there was a clear $300 charge before an affiliate could retail anything.
You’ve identified it as the “Presidents Club”.
Obviously business isn’t going so well if you’re getting caught up in matrix-based nonsense like this.
Way to ride some coat tails. Lots of assumptions “One time the CEO talked to this other guy so that must mean they are in business”. You are reaching.
All this article says to me is that you were once burned by an unscrupulous internet company so they must all be that way.
Have a little personal integrity and do some fact checking before you air your ignorance online to the general public. (Ozedit: keyboard warrior comments removed)
^^ In other news, Ingreso Cybernetico is still a recruitment driven pyramid scheme.
Yawn.
Don’t you actually have to be someone to have your coattails ridden? just sayin’
Good evening
I am just searching on the web about IC, looking for reviews because i was planning to enter in this business, but after reading this review Oz, you made my mind.
Ty
All this comment says to me is you are blind to things you don’t agree with and have to invent a reason to justify your irrational behavior.
It’s called “post hoc justification of confirmation bias”.
My, my, what a limited imagination you must have if that’s the best reason you can come up with for people speaking out against scams
There are 53,000 new members going into this program next week. Keep your eyes peeled BUYAA.
Actually, the Ingreso Cybernetico MLM Junkies are doing a runner now that recruiting has slowed down to a crawl. They’re all joining National Wealth Center.
The CEO of Ingreso Cybernetico, Juan Carlos Olaya, has launched a Cryptocurrency Trading Program called me-coin.
On my radar, review out later this week.