Crowd Rising Review: MMM Global gifting clone
There is no information on the Crowd Rising website indicating who owns or runs the business.
Rather than disclose management details, Crowd Rising instead only provide the following:
Crowd Rising is a semi-automated system created by a group of 5 individuals who are funding and Founding members referred to as the 5 Horsemen.
The Crowd Rising website domain (“crowdrising.net”) was registered on the 26th of March 2016, with Gerhard Rempel listed as the owner. A residential address in Manitoba, Canada is also provided.
Rempel (right) first appeared on BehindMLM’s radar back in 2013, as co-owner of Belizers.
Belizers, now long since collapsed, saw affiliates invest between $10 and $25 on the promise of an advertised 150% ROI.
In mid-2015 Rempel resurfaced as the admin of Fast Perpetual Cash Cyclone. Also collapsed, Fast Perpetual Cash Cyclone was an ad-credit Ponzi scheme.
Rempel purportedly launched the scam to ‘raise funds to get surgery to sow and patch up (his) nasty groin hernia‘.
Read on for a full review of the Crowd Rising MLM business opportunity.
The Crowd Rising Product Line
Crowd Rising has no retailable products or services, with affiliates only able to market Crowd Rising affiliate membership itself.
The Crowd Rising Compensation Plan
Crowd Rising sees affiliates purchase $20 positions in a 5×10 matrix.
A 5×10 matrix places an affiliate at the top of the matrix, with five positions directly under them (level 1):
These initial five positions form the first level of the matrix. The second level of the matrix is generated by splitting each of the first five positions into another five positions each (25 positions).
Subsequent levels of the matrix are generated in the same manner, with each level of the matrix housing five times as many positions as the previous level.
In total, a complete 5×10 matrix has 12,207,030 positions.
Positions in the matrix are filled via recruitment of new Crowd Rising affiliates, with each $20 signup filling one position in the matrix.
Funds are gifted between Crowd Rising affiliates within the matrix.
An affiliate starts by gifting $20 to the affiliate who recruited them. This qualifies them to receive $20 from five subsequently recruited affiliates.
Once the first level of their matrix is filled, they then need to gift another $40 to the affiliated who recruited them.
In this manner all ten levels of the matrix are unlocked as follows:
- level 1 – gift $20 to your upline and receive $20 from five subsequently recruited affiliates
- level 2 – gift $40 to your upline and receive $40 from 25 affiliates
- level 3 – gift $60 to your upline and receive $60 from 125 affiliates
- level 4 – gift $100 to your upline and receive $100 from 625 affiliates
- level 5 – gift $200 to your upline and receive $200 from 3125 affiliates
- level 6 – gift $300 to your upline and receive $300 from 15,625 affiliates
- level 7 – gift $400 to your upline and receive $400 from 78,125 affiliates
- level 8 – gift $500 to your upline and receive $500 from 390,625 affiliates
- level 9 – gift $700 to your upline and receive $700 from 1,953,125 affiliates
- level 10 – gift $990 to your upline and receive $990 from 9,765,625 affiliates
Joining Crowd Rising
Affiliate membership with Crowd Rising is tied to the purchase of at least one $20 matrix position.
Conclusion
The rhetoric on the Crowd Rising website is similar to the cash gifting scheme MMM Global before it:
(Crowd Rising) is not a Company or a Business or a Corporation.
The Crowd Rising System is not owned by any one individual.
MMM Global was essentially the same concept, only it exclusively used bitcoin and was run by a convicted Russian criminal.
MMM Global collapsed last month. Around the time the Crowd Rising website domain was registered, MMM Global affiliates were experiencing trouble withdrawing funds out of the scheme.
In Crowd Rising marketing videos on YouTube, Pete Redekop identifies himself as one of the “five horsemen” behind Crowd Rising.
On March 31st, 2016, Redekop uploaded a video to his YouTube channel titled “Zewang English support, how to confirm a GH Get Help”.
Zewang is another cash gifting scheme, again modeled on MMM Global.
On April 3rd, 2016, Rempel uploaded a video titled “CrowdRising migration tutorial”. The video instructs iCharity Club affiliates on how to “migrate” over to Crowd Rising.
iCharity Club is… you guessed it, yet another cash gifting scheme.
If you dug deeper there are likely links between cash gifting schemes among all five founders of Crowd Rising.
One or more were almost certainly involved in MMM Global, with the scheme’s collapse having likely prompted the launch of their own reload scam.
Under the guise of crowdfunding, Crowd Rising offer up a cash gifting/Ponzi hybrid.
Affiliates gift $20 to the affiliate who recruited them, which in turn qualifies them to receive $20 from subsequently recruited affiliates.
There are no refunds allowed since all payment are sent directly from one person’s processor to another person’s processor.
Affiliates paying affiliates in MLM is cash gifting, which is illegal the world over.
Using a matrix, funds from newly invested affiliates are funneled up to Gerhard Rempel and friends, as each new level of the matrix requires a portion of gifted funds to be passed up the company matrix.
Sitting at the top of the Crowd Rising company matrix are a bunch of preloaded positions belonging to Rempel and his fellow admins.
This makes the following statement from the Crowd Rising FAQ all the more disingenuous:
The donation payments are NOT collected by the administrator nor are the payments automated by the system, rather sent directly and personally from one member to another member, from one member’s payment processor to another member’s payment processor.
Affiliates do pay eachother, that much is true, but the statement that Crowd Rising administrators do not “collect funds” is patently false.
Through participation fees charged to unlock matrix levels, the admin(s) of cash gifting schemes like Crowd Rising always receive the largest share of funds deposited into the scheme.
This is pure math, based on the fact they sit at the top of the company-wide matrix which, at any given time, has the most levels unlocked and positions filled.
As with the collapse of MMM Global, the majority of participants lose out. This is probably what happened to Rempel and friends, and so here we are with Crowd Rising – a reload scheme launched in an attempt to recoup their losses.
Guess who they expect will foot the bill?
You will never receive the advertised amount of money in this scheme. Even if you manage to technically fill your matrix, you will receive payments from 5 levels.
To receive payments from level 10, you must have a team 20 levels deep, and 95,367,431,640,625 people on level 20.
One aspect with these gifting meshes is… How do you really know people you’re giving money to really exists, and are not shills / bots / cronies created by the admin?
If you’re signing up under someone, you gift only level 1 payment to your direct upline. So at least you know one real person here.
Other payments go to higher levels in the company-wide matrix, for example, your level 2 fee is paid not to your direct upline, but to your upline’s upline, and so on. And these people may be, as you said, shills, bots and cronies. However, if you sign up directly under admin, you pay money to him only.
…Until those at the bottom fail to find others, then it collapses. So rather than being spontaneous, even worse, this is just a pay to play matrix, which is just the same old same old which collapses in a very short time – with those at the top keeping the winnings every time.
What is your say about “Morez.help” that promises 100% to 120% R0I trading on BT COIN in MMM business model?
If it remotely resembles MMM it’s a cash gifting Ponzi scheme.
The whole things seems to be smelly! This ris I shall n o t run
Do one have to recruit before one get donation ? how dose it works.
Same as any other Ponzi scheme. You invest, your investment pays those who joined before you.
New victims invest and you steal their money.
I don’t blame these guys for introducing such schemes. It’s a quick bucks making solution.
The ones that join within the first year are the ones who benefits. The unemployment rate is high in SA, So people will try other available options like joining crowd rising.
You don’t blame them for stealing from desperate, poor, unemployed people?
I do.
Even quicker would be robbing a bank.
In all seriousness, why not just do that?
How exactly are they robbing the poor? I was one the poor people but my life has changed, I benefited alot from these donations and I feel sorry for those who were interrupted by the hawks or government before they could even get their share.
I’m on Crowd Rising now and oh oh oh money money money! I already received my level 3 donations R112 000 and my downline members are also enjoying their benefits.
Because through gifting schemes like Crowd Rising, scammers like you keep robbing them with false promises of riches.
All your doing is withdrawing their money and hoping they find new victims to keep the scam going.
MMM global collapsed because it ran out of newly invested funds. It had nothing to do with the South African government.
Do they teach math in Africa? There isn’t an infinite amount of suckers to transfer money to you. Nor can a company pay out more funds than are deposited.
@ Oz:
You definitely don’t know what you talking about! MMM was doing so well here in SA.
People who join do it willingly and no one is holding the gun into their heads. This is like gambling I’m sure people knows that by now.
Like I said in my first post ” People that benefit are the ones that join within the first year of the scheme”.
People are always warned by people like you and who do you blame if things don’t go their way? Please blame their ignorant.
I’m also aware that one day I might be a victim my self but what do I have to lose I play smart. I’m aware there are also smarter people out there.
So, let people do what ever they want to do with their money. Sooner or later those who win are the ones who think they can.
MMM Global collapsed. The crappy localized versions of the scam went under shortly after.
Running out of new investor funds is not “doing well” for a Ponzi scheme.
1. Whether people willing join Ponzi schemes or not is irrelevant.
2. A Ponzi scheme is investment fraud. It has nothing to do with gambling.
Hopefully scammers like you who recruited them into these messes.
Hey, you’re free to do whatever you want with your money. Just don’t come on here with horseshit justifications for Ponzi schemes.
You want to be a scammer? Damn well own it.
@Oz
Then let us enjoy our monies in peace unless you were once scammed your self. I wonder what is getting you so worked out!
Because these people you referring to never even receive a dime from you. This doesn’t concern you. So please chill. It concerns only the members of the “ponzi” scheme.
I’m scamming no one but we are fulfilling each other’s dreams. 🙂
Uh, you came here. I didn’t go looking for you.
Cut the crap. You are scamming every single person who joined after you.
And while I appreciate it’s easier to scam people from the shadows, calling out Crowd Rising for what it is hurting your bottom line isn’t my concern.
@OZ
This isn’t your site right? I can write what ever I like (Ozedit: Snip. Guess again. Offtopic spam removed.)
🙂 🙂 peace Oz
Ah, so you’ve spoken to them all, have you ???
Is that what you tell cops too?
on crowdrising if you rigister by R300 and you get 5 people who will register under you by R300. if the scheem colapse like others. how much would you loose from it? nothing but gain R1200.
to me this is a good opportunity bcause even our government is failing to give us even a little of R50.00 each of us who are not working.
and you guys who are critisizing you are doing this bcause your working somewhere.
How much you lose scamming others isn’t so much of an issue as participating in a scam to begin with.
What your government does or doesn’t do is not a justification for scamming people through cash gifting schemes.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
How convenient you left out the initial $300.
point of correction is not $300 is R300
and is not we are investing money on Crowdrising, we invest our time and building the relationship by providing to other people who are hopeless.
we invest our time and building the relationship by providing to other people who are clueless.
Ok I fixed that for you!
If you haven’t
scammedrecruited anyone else into the scheme by the time of its inevitable collapse, then you lose your 300 rand … leaving you worse off then you were before.And this is how most people who get involved in these fraudulent schemes end up.
That’s just the way these things go.
Just a note, or should I say warning to those who use Paypal to receive and pay the required payments, Paypal will eventually freeze accounts of those using their platform for such an operation.
This has NO products to justify a proper business.
Paypal even froze Traffic Monsoon. What makes you think that they won’t freeze yours, or the whole Crowd Rising business. Greed always gets in the way of intelligence.
Stop lying to yourself. You would have never bothered if it wasn’t for the chance to see the money you put in returned multiple-fold. If you want to donate you’d go volunteer at a church or charity.
stop frightening the world with the scheme game.
The truth behind Ponzi schemes shouldn’t frighten you, unless you make your living scamming unsuspecting victims.
I for one am glad that behindmlm is here. I have been in matrixes and cyclers before and did nothing but lose money.
The sad thing is that people move from one Ponzi scheme to another and bring their down line with them so they make money right away, is this a bad thing?
Well it is if you are brining them into another scheme because then your down line will start seeing you as a scammer.
Crowd Rising is a fulfilment of Bible command that says ‘give and it shall be given unto you’ LUKE 6:38. Its all about charity, donations and touching lives.
The hell does ripping people off by recruiting them into a gifting scheme have to do with charity and donations?
And quoting the bible in an attempt to justify illegal cash gifting? For shame.
There is always something good out there. If you get it first then is yours and others lose out. That’s the theory of the world we are leaving in.
^^ Is that supposed to be some weak-ass attempt at justfying cash gifting?
There is nothing good about cash gifting scams, you’re stealing from your victims and that’s the end of it.
@Oz, I lost a lot of money in these schemes years ago when I was still in my country in Africa and I decided afterwards to stop “investing”.
However, as i read through your responses to people, especially Africans; I get the harsh feeling that you know nothing of the hard life and desperation in that continent.
You see everything from the “white” way of things, something I have come to get used to here in the UK. Truth is that mot whites know nothing of what it is to live a poor life in Africa.
I’m not trying to justify these schemes, I’m just saying you know nothing about my continent.
There is no excuse that can justify scamming people. Get over yourself princess.
I know when it comes to network marketing Africa appears to be pretty deep-rooted in MLM underbelly scams. Whether you choose to acknowledge that from your lofty English castle is another matter.
this is fraud i ve paid awaitin for my money for almost 4 weeks now this is so painful and hearbreakin.
The website is vert clear. So were is the scam???? Nothing is hidden.
I think I’m going to hook up with some folks and work together to make a difference in the lives of those that want to participate. There is no scam here. A Scheme does not mean something is a scam. Love the process.
Advising people you’re going to scam them doesn’t make Crowd Rising any less of a gifting scam.
Hell, you coming on here to deny it’s a scam is evidence enough that, despite the “honesty” Crowd Rising is still being marketed deceptively.
But a business model does, and Crowd Rising’s is rotten to the core.