Be Review: Melius rebooted as subscription pyramid
Be marketing began in late May, early June 2020. The company is a reboot of Melius.
Melius launched in late 2018, on the idiotic premise of giving out $50,000 real money trading accounts for $3000.
The company was publicly headed up by CEO and co-founder Jeremy Prasetyo.
Initially Melius’ other co-founders weren’t publicly acknowledged on the company’s website.
The main reason for that is because Melius’ other co-founders were Monir and Moyn Islam.
The Islam brothers made a name for themselves scamming people out of millions in OneCoin.
Originally from the UK, most of the Islam brother’s victims were ethnic minorities. As OneCoin began to collapse the brothers fled to Dubai.
Although not an outwardly obvious Ponzi scheme like OneCoin, Melius shared the scheme’s securities fraud roots.
Melius appears to have begun collapsing in late December 2019.
Be’s website domain (“befactor.com”) was acquired on March 26th, 2020. Promotion of Be began in mid to late May.
Melius’ website and social media profiles have since been deleted.
Be’s website cites Moyn Islam (President and CEO), Monir Islam (CVO) and Ehsaan B. Islam (CTO) as co-founders of the company.
Read on for a full review of Be’s MLM opportunity.
Be’s Products
Be markets two subscription services, which are also bundled together as “Elite”.
Live
Live your dream lifestyle with our exciting, exclusive membership club.
A Live subscription provides access to a travel discount portal, call/chat app, rideshare app, payment platform and business building app.
- Bronze Live – $199 and then $99 a month
- Silver Live – $499 and then $99 a month
- Gold Live – $799 and then $99 a month
Learn
Explore new skills, deepen existing passions.
A Learn subscription provides access to a trading app, “access to online learning resources”, a streaming platform and something called “Sense”.
Sense apparently connects “people, knowledge, and actions around the world”. Seriously, that’s all the info on Sense that Be provides.
- Bronze Learn – $199 and then $149 a month
- Silver Learn – $499 and then $149 a month
- Gold Learn – $799 and then $149 a month
Elite
Elite subscriptions combine Live and Learn services.
- Bronze Elite – $399 and then $149 a month
- Silver Elite – $950 and then $149 a month
- Gold Elite – $1499 and then $149 a month
Be’s Compensation Plan
Be’s compensation plan pays on the sale of subscriptions to retail customers and recruited affiliates.
Note that Be affiliates only earn commissions on subscription tiers they have sold.
E.g. A Be affiliate who has sold a Live tier subscription will only earn on Live subscriptions. This includes personal sales and downline sales.
Be Affiliate Ranks
There are eleven affiliate ranks within Be’s compensation plan.
Along with their respective qualification criteria, they are as follows:
- Star – enroll and maintain two customers who purchase a subscription
- Consultant – generate 1200 BV in weaker binary team side volume during a residual commission cycle
- Sapphire – generate 4000 BV in weaker binary team side volume during a residual commission cycle, and maintain two customers on purchased subscriptions
- Ruby – generate 14,000 BV in weaker binary team side volume during a residual commission cycle, and maintain three customers on purchased subscriptions
- Emerald – generate 29,500 BV in weaker binary team side volume during a residual commission cycle, and maintain three customers on purchased subscriptions
- Diamond – generate 90,000 BV in weaker binary team side volume during a residual commission cycle, and maintain four customers on purchased subscriptions
- Presidential Diamond – generate 180,000 BV in weaker binary team side volume during a residual commission cycle, and maintain four customers on purchased subscriptions
- Royal Diamond – generate 370,000 BV in weaker binary team side volume during a residual commission cycle, and maintain four customers on purchased subscriptions
- Ambassador – generate 1,110,000 BV in weaker binary team side volume during a residual commission cycle, and maintain four customers on purchased subscriptions
- Royal Ambassador – generate 2,997,000 BV in weaker binary team side volume during a residual commission cycle, and maintain four customers on purchased subscriptions
- Crown Ambassador – generate 7,997,000 BV in weaker binary team side volume during a residual commission cycle, and maintain four customers on purchased subscriptions
BV stands for “Business Volume and is sales volume generated by subscription purchases by retail customers and recruited affiliates.
A residual commission cycle is four weeks.
Fast Start Bonus
The Fast Start Bonus serves both as a retail and recruitment commission, paying 10% to 20% on new subscription sales.
- Affiliates who have enrolled a Bronze or Silver tier subscription customer earn a 10% Fast Start Bonus
- Affiliates who have enrolled a Gold or Elite tier subscription customer earn a 20% Fast Start Bonus
Customer Saving Bonus
The Customer Saving Bonus is essentially cash back on “Quest Dollars” used by referred customers.
Customers use Quest Dollars in Be’s travel portal. Affiliates earn a 20% commission if Quest Dollars are used by the customer.
Residual Commissions
To qualify for residual commissions, a Be affiliate must recruit two affiliates who purchase a subscription.
Be pays residual commissions via a binary compensation structure.
A binary compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a binary team, split into two sides (left and right):
The first level of the binary team houses two positions. The second level of the binary team is generated by splitting these first two positions into another two positions each (4 positions).
Subsequent levels of the binary team are generated as required, with each new level housing twice as many positions as the previous level.
Positions in the binary team are filled via direct and indirect recruitment of affiliates. Note there is no limit to how deep a binary team can grow.
Sales volume (BV) is generated on both sides of the binary team via subscription sales.
BV is calculated at roughly 60% of fees paid by both retail and affiliate subscribers.
Residual commissions are paid based on “cycles”. A cycle is a four-week period.
Residual commissions are paid out based on rank, weekly throughout the four-week cycle period.
- Consultants earn $125 a week ($500 per four-week cycle)
- Sapphires earn $375 per week ($1500 per four-week cycle)
- Rubys earn $1000 per week ($4000 per four-week cycle)
- Emeralds earn $2125 per week ($8500 per four-week cycle)
- Diamonds earn $7500 per week ($30,000 per four-week cycle)
- Presidential Diamonds earn $15,000 per week ($60,000 per four-week cycle)
- Royal Diamond – earn $120,000 per week ($480,000 per four-week cycle)
- Ambassadors earn $70,000 per week ($280,000 per four-week cycle)
- Royal Ambassadors earn $150,000 per week ($600,000 per four-week cycle)
- Crown Ambassador earn $300,000 per week ($1,200,000 per four-week cycle)
Be’s compensation plan material states that 60% of payable residual commission volume must be from customers.
How this is monitored and what happens if the condition is not met isn’t disclosed.
Matching Bonus (unilevel)
Be affiliates earn a 10% Matching Bonus across their unilevel team.
A unilevel compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a unilevel team, with every personally recruited affiliate placed directly under them (level 1):
If any level 1 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 2 of the original affiliate’s unilevel team.
If any level 2 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 3 and so on and so forth down a theoretical infinite number of levels.
The unilevel team Matching Bonus doesn’t appear to have a depth cap.
Instead how much an affiliate earns through the bonus is capped over the four-week pay cycle based on rank:
- Consultants can earn up to $800 per four-week pay cycle
- Sapphires can earn up to $2000 per four-week pay cycle
- Rubys can earn up to $3000 per four-week pay cycle
- Emeralds can earn up to $4000 per four-week pay cycle
- Diamonds can earn up to $6000 per four-week pay cycle
- Presidential Diamonds can earn up to $8000 per four-week pay cycle
- Royal Diamonds and higher can earn up to $10,000 per four-week pay cycle
To qualify for the unilevel team Matching Bonus, Consultant and higher ranked affiliates must enroll and maintain two customers on Gold or Elite subscriptions.
Matching Bonus (generational)
In addition to the flat 10% Matching Bonus, Be also offers a generational Matching Bonus to Emerald and higher ranked affiliates.
The generational Matching Bonus is paid out using the same unilevel team the regular Matching Bonus is paid out with (see above).
The difference is as opposed to earning 10% on the entire team, Emerald generations are used.
The first Emerald generation in a unilevel team leg is capped off when an Emerald or higher ranked affiliate is found in the leg.
The second generation begins immediately after them, and is again capped when a second Emerald or higher ranked affiliate is found deeper in the leg.
If no such affiliate exists, the second generation runs the full depth of the leg.
Using these Emerald generations, the generational Matching Bonus pays out on up to four generations per unilevel team leg.
- Emeralds earn a 5% match on one Emerald generation per leg
- Diamonds earn a 5% match on the first Emerald generation per leg and 3% on the second
- Presidential Diamonds earn a 5% match on the first Emerald generation per leg and 3% on the second and third
- Royal Diamonds and higher earn a 5% match on the first Emerald generation per leg, 3% on the second and third and 2% on the fourth
Note that the generational Matching Bonus earned over a four-week pay cycle is capped based on rank:
- Emeralds can earn up to $2000
- Diamonds can earn up to $4000
- Presidential Diamonds can earn up to $6000
- Royal Diamonds can earn up to $8000
- Ambassadors can earn up to $15,000
- Royal Ambassadors can earn up to $25,000
- Crown Ambassadors can earn up to $50,000
Monthly Expense Plan
Be rewards Diamond and higher ranked affiliates with a cash bonus every four-week pay cycle:
- Diamonds receive $1000 per cycle
- Presidential Diamonds receive $2000 per cycle
- Royal Diamonds receive $3500 per cycle
- Ambassadors receive $5000 per cycle
- Royal Ambassadors and Crown Ambassadors receive $10,000 per cycle
Joining Be
As per Be’s published compensation plan;
The enrollment fee ranges from $0 – $45 based on the country you are in.
No explanation or further information is provided.
Conclusion
What Be comes down to is whether there’s more retail customers with subscriptions than affiliates.
Be’s website boasts the company has “15,000 customers” (most of whom will have been ported over from Melius). It doesn’t differentiate between retail and affiliate customers.
To gauge some idea of the retail viability of Be’s subscriptions, let’s look at the offered services:
- Quest – another travel discount portal… launched in the middle of a global pandemic to boot
- Triva – a communication phone app, seriously?
- iRide – a rideshare app run by an undisclosed third-party
- Latent Pay – payment cards carried over from failed Melius opp (likely obtained through a shell merchant given the fraudulent nature of Melius’ business model)
- Quantum – “build your business on the go”. Yeah alright, what does that even mean?
- Shift – trading app carried over from failed Melius opp
- Mind Hub – education platform with no details disclosed
- Wow – “LiVe ChAt In ReAlTiMe!”, welcome to 1999.
Given a bunch of Be’s offered services have been carried over from Melius, which collapsed, we already know they’re not retail viable.
As for the rest, who is paying hundreds of dollars upfront and then $99 to $149 to access them?
Practically all of the offered services have free widespread and readily available equivalents.
To dig deeper I’m going to single out Triva, Be’s mobile communication app.
Triva has a website over at “trivacall.com”. From that website can see the service can be signed up for at no cost for three months.
After which Triva costs 19.99 AED a month. AED stands for the “United Arab Emirates dirham.
Curiously there is no company information provided on Triva’s website. Most of the navigation links on the website don’t work.
Forget about free trial, why would I pay some company in the UAE run by persons unknown for basic cell phone functionality?!
And so it is with the rest of Be’s offerings. You can get the same thing or better for free elsewhere.
The one exception I’ll make is the travel portal. When a Be affiliate signs up, they’re given $80,000 in “Quester Dollars”.
These are supposed to be handed out as a marketing incentive, providing a raw dollar discount on quoted travel service prices.
In addition to counting towards purchased travel services, Quester Dollars are also commissionable.
My question is: who is footing the bill?
$80,000 in pre-paid travel portal discounts per Be affiliate who signs up is nothing to sneeze at. If those are genuine savings, again, who is paying for this?
I’m reminded of Melius’ bullshit $50,000 real money trading account for $3000 nonsense, which prompted a similar question.
Non-retail viable services leaves us with the majority of Be’s subscriptions being taken out by affiliates.
Your first red flag there is Be charging subscription tiers (Bronze/Silver/Gold), which don’t appear to affect the provided services.
What these tiers do affect is commission rates, making Be’s subscription tiers “pay to play”.
Pay to play in MLM is a strong indicator of a pyramid scheme, which Be most definitely is if the majority of subscription holders are affiliates.
Why would a retail customer switch between Bronze, Silver and Gold? They are locked out of the comp plan and, at least based on information provided by Be on their website, there’s no other difference between the subscription tiers.
Taking that into consideration, Be’s trajectory will mirror that of Melius’.
Things will stay afloat until recruitment dips, after which it’s a spiral towards collapse.
Will we see a third Melius reboot in a few months time? Stay tuned!
Update 10th April 2021 – Following a fraud warning from Canada, Be dropped its “befactor.com” domain and launched “berules.com”.
Update 16th May 2021 – A reader in the comments below (#40), stated that Be claimed it had “improved” its compensation plan.
An updated review was requested, which came up today.
Upon going over Be’s new compensation plan I noted only minor changes, which I’ve updated in this review.
Namely rank changes (including missing qualification criteria), the Matching Bonus being split between a unilevel and generational, and Lifestyle Rewards being ditched for a “Monthly Expense Plan”.
None of these affect the review in any significant way so I’ve declined to publish a separate updated review.
I’ve also noted the absence of retail customer clarification in Be’s compensation plan.
The company simply states:
A Customer is someone who has purchased any products or services through BE.
Seeing as affiliates can “purchase products or services through BE”, this implies the company is passing off affiliates with a subscription as retail customers.
This is not legally compliant, although it is in line with Melius operating as a pyramid scheme.
Update 20th October 2021 – A reader wrote in requesting a review on “Be To Inspire”, operating from “betoinspire.com”.
Although branded differently, this is just another domain Be Rules is operating from.
Update 4th September 2024 – Be has abandoned its “betoinspire.com” domain.
Be now operates from “beclub.com”, purchased in or around April 2024.
A lot of Scammers get arrested in Dubai at the moment. The Islam Brothers will be next!
Which projects in dubai? Many are hiding now in dubai.
@Paul – can you post any sources for this? That would be awesome!
I want to know how do they manage to trade and teach people to do it and, supposedly to get profit every day? I guess there are some profesional traders sharing some operations to bring more people and hiding the truth.
I was scammed by these people Out of my hard earned money last year when the company was fairly new.
They sell a supposed life style and make it seem like they will teach you to trade, so I was under the impression that I was going to lean by professionals.
Although the only thing they are professionals in is manipulating you into joining a Pyramid scheme. I pray no one else falls for this.
Keep an eye out for how they have changed there brand to try and get away from this!
Hello, I need help. The person who registered me has not given me my information.
What help were you looking for? The person you has collected their recruitment commission and dipped. That’s how Be works.
First things first, what a review. Hannah if you need any help I can help you. Being with BE has been amazing for me. I can’t speak for others.
Yes, we have affiliates and we have customers. As with most companies, some are happy and some aren’t. It’s just how it goes.
This industry isn’t for everyone but it doesn’t mean it’s a scam. It’s reviews like this that give a bad name to companies.
BE (previous melius) yes have rebranded but for the better. We are pretty transparent so you should be able to get more accurate information. ♀️♀️
Our Educators and educational platform is actually one of the best. Unlike other trading companies I was with in the past I lost so much in the past. Now with BE I have profit weekly with our trading platforms Shift and Orakle.
We have some of the best traders who do live classes and actually teach you how to profit while learning. They answer all your questions and take the time out of their busy day but they do to help us all succeed.
Some lose money cause they don’t want to follow the rules of trading and some make a crap load of money cause they follow the rules of trading.
Trading carries risk and if you can accept that risk then ♀️♀️♀️. If not then trading isn’t for you.
I have friends who have actually used the Quest Discount dollars and the savings are way better than other 3rd party sites. I haven’t personally used Quest Dollars cause I haven’t gotten the guts to travel just yet.
I saw compensation was missing for Ambassador and Royal Ambassador. The comp for Ambassador is $280,000 monthly plus Lambo Car Program and Royal Ambassador is $600,000 monthly plus Dream Home Program. These levels have been reached in Dubai and Latin America. And we have 1 here in the U.S.A.
The Quantum App is great cause I can upload my business contacts and reach out if they are interested. Everything is pre-set so I can just send information to clients and team members with a click of a button.
Sense App is great for communicating with others in the company and trading world. Mindhub is great for educating yourself on the basics of trading. W.O.W. (World of Wisdom) is a live educational platform where you can interact with your educator and they will answer your questions. Also, pre-recorded sessions where you can watch on your time.
Lastly, the leaders are different and really help one on one. But if you are in BE and come across this page and your leader isn’t up to your standards reach out to someone. Or the many group chats we have.
We literally ALL help each other. I have never seen or heard of a leader not helping. We don’t want anyone to feel like they don’t have our support.
That’s all I have to say about that. Thx
Indeed. And it should be noted in your marketing pitch you failed to answer one question raised in its conclusion.
Seeing as you’re all about transparency and helping others, what’s your recruited affiliate/retail customer spread?
Please no marketing, just a raw figure: I”ve recruited x affiliates and I have x active retail customers paying fees right now.
Also why did Melius collapse? Rhetorical I know it was because Melius was a pyramid scheme with no retail run by serial scammers, the real question is whether you’ll admit it.
And we’re supposed to just take your word for it, given that you never mentioned them again?
My apologies that this reply is sooooo late. I’m usually busy educating others on financial literacy and how to trade in a 7.3 million dollar Forex Market.
All I did was share my opinion on one of the companies that I’m affiliated with. I’m pretty sure I have that right and you have the right to have a rebuttal of my opinions.
We have over 60,000+ consumers and affiliate marketers. I’m more focused on customers and providing them products and services. The business part comes only if they want it. Nothing is forced.
As for Melius the reason for the name change was to share with people that they can “BE.” #BEamazing #BEgrateful #BEfinanciallyfree so on and so forth
Not every business is for everyone. And that’s cool! But (Ozedit: recruitment spam removed)
The fact remains you have failed to answer one question asked in the review.
You also dodged this:
Posting stupid hashtags instead of actually engaging in a conversation makes you come off as a slimy marketer. Trying to slip in recruitment spam also doesn’t do you any favors.
Reader beware.
hi. are there some news about BE?
Nope. Still a pyramid scheme.
Haha, the Islam brother scammers have written their own “article” in ED Times Brand Voice, how they were infact victims of OneCoin. And how “an individual from one big media agency in the UK wrote a biased and misinformed news story about their exit from the infamous company.” 😀
Poor Monir and Moyn Islam, victims of Onecoin! 😀
But now they are helping people avoid being scammed! How gracious they are!
in.news.yahoo.com/founders-monir-moyn-islam-helping-065915944.html
etc.etc. bullshit.
I’ve seen that content farm article spammed on a few sites over the past few days. Surprised it hasn’t popped up on BFH yet.
Bottom line is net-winners in Ponzi schemes aren’t victims. Not withstanding having to flee the UK to avoid those you scammed.
Here’s a longer one. The “honest businessmen” Monir and Moyn were victims of OneCoin, totally wrong understood, but of course THE HATERS keep telling lies about them.. 😀
influencive.com/monir-and-moyn-islam-the-young-entrepreneurs-redefined-life-challenges/
My fav:
That’s a funny Ponzi scammer backstory.
Monir or Moyn never paid back the OneCoin investors they stole from. The end.
is anyone doing something out there? I have a friend working there, receiving commissions and it’s supposed to be earning on trading, it’s actually annoying. I´ve never said her nothing because it would be to lose time on it.
So I am currently subscribed to BE as a bronze elite. I’m not about to give a sales pitch, just my take and opinion on what I’ve experienced so far.
A friend of mine got me interested in forex and was subscribed with be. I honestly don’t think his intention was recruiting, but he got me interested solely based on forex trading.
The main strategy is shift, which has “pro” traders post their positions and all the necessary details to copy their moves cause, since they are pros who know the market, then their strategies should be solid… you would think.
So the subscription gives you access to their programs of which you’ve mentioned, the broker they use is prosperityfx. I’m still new to the market so I’m unsure if this broker is better than others or not, but I was most interested in orakle, I believe to be an ai trading bot. I say believe cause I have yet to gain access to this and believe it’s cause it doesn’t exist.
So shift and the number of videos they provide to learn about it and all their other software, as well as forex, crypto, and other trading opportunities. I found that especially recently, half the strategies result in negative profit.
My friend went broke following them and I only did with a test account. Once my money was on the line I felt I’d be stupid for not learning the market to develop my own, and no that is not an easy risk free feat.in 2 weeks, from knowing nothing about the market, I’m about at the same win/loss ratio.
I won’t say one way or another what that implies but, I keep feeling like I’m simply paying for the broker, and don’t really care about the rest of the nonsense.
The travel portal however does seem appealing as I test out the deals to see if the rates are the best like they claim, and that’s held true so far, I just haven’t used it yet.
The travel portal is through quest so I’m curious if its easy to get rates thru then separate from be.
All in all im not disappointed with it but at the same time, I feel like its a hefty price for whats provided, and although there’s a chat group through telegram that connects everyone in the region, it seems its just a hype farm meant to subliminally make people feel supported and I genuinely think that the people aren’t deliberately scamming people, they actually think they are doing good for others and eachother.
Can’t say the same about the Islam brothers though, simply don’t know.
Thats my story, for better and worse, I simply wanted to give my account on my experience and I hope that gives some insight to the situation.
Hahahaha So funny that Oz simply got so silent after your review D.
I liked your very honest opinion about everything.
No I’m not a part of Melius/Be, have been thinking of becoming a part for the lowest price just to try out their trading signals to see if they are bullshitting or not.
Because you OZ can have all your opinion’s about it come with reasons to WHY this is a pyramid scheme, but if you haven’t really been inside the company to see if there really is something to the trading part then I honestly don’t give a damn, and neither should other people.
I’m not saying Melius/Be isn’t a scam, it may very well (BE) lol.
BUT I have to see it with my own eyes, or see a friend making money of the trading, if not and all the money comes from recruiting then its shit, if there is a working product and you simply pay a monthly fee for that then its more likely to be legit.
To be fair some of it is fishy, then again I’m pretty shure its very hard to get the whole full true story for an article like this..
Maybe its scam maybe its not lets see..
Nothing D published addressed the Islam brothers being serial scammers or Be being a pyramid scheme. Why would I reply?
He critiqued the company’s bundled products and services, which is fair enough. Doesn’t change what Be is though.
You don’t need to join a pyramid scheme to recognize one. If you don’t recognize that then maybe due-diligence is not for you.
In other words you’re a “if I make money I don’t care if it’s a scam” schmuck. Just be honest.
Hi I read and found this article by accident looking for reviews on SHIFT APP.
A friend of mine suggested this application to me to make money with trading. He told me that he is making a lot of money through this application as they give safe signals.
Why do you tell me it’s a scam? Why does Shift use a ponzi scheme to advertise?
Shift app is earning a lot of people from the monthly and weekly rankings in which in any week they don’t lose any.
I’m waiting for your answer.
Shift App is “offered by” Be Empower, which is obviously Be the MLM company.
The app is developed by Meliorism, which is also Be the MLM company (dating back to Melius).
As per it’s business model Be is a pyramid scheme, not a Ponzi scheme.
If you want to know why Be is running a pyramid scheme you’d have to ask them.
You don’t have to do the mlm thing you actually could just go to the App Store and get swift by itself with an add on. And it’s just $50 a month.
That’s noted in the review. But who is paying $50 a month retail for an app put together by nobodies? Former OneCoin Ponzi scammers no less.
Melius proved there’s no retail market. And so we have Be Factor, Be Rules, or whatever they’re going by tomorrow.
I haven’t joined yet but it seems like a lot of people are satisfied with the app from what I’ve seen.
Yeah, a lot of affiliates participating in a pyramid scheme.
By all means sign up as a retail customer and hand over $50 a month.
You and I both know you’re interested in the income opp though, or you wouldn’t be here.
Actually not really. Trading is all I care about that recruiting thing.
Is played out with me just like tradings better. Don’t have to talk to people to make money.
You want to hand over $149 a month to randoms for a trading app, I’m not here to convince you otherwise.
If you’re looking for feedback you’re probably better off finding someone who isn’t and has never been a Melius/Be affiliate paying $149 a month.
Those people don’t exist but best of luck with it.
Well what I’m going for is just the shift app and ws master app which is just $50 a month. And sure hope it works.
Never now if you never try.
You and me have very different purchasing habits.
Sure do. I get the best bang for the buck. If your spending money your not making money. If your investing your money then you CAN get a ROI.
Considering it’s just $200 one time a $50 a month and if the service is just half of what they say then you can be quite profitable.
Note I’m not recruiting anyone. I don’t see what’s wrong with that?
I absolutely love BE. While it’s not for everyone, it is delivering insane results for those using the Apps PROPERLY.
I am sitting at about 75% profit in the trades I am taking with the Shift App alone. The WOW platform is in my opinion one of the best I have seen.
In fact, there are educators there that were former educators from the #1 Forex Educational Platform on the net, the company I actually began my forex education with back in 2018.
As for the Shift App, one of our team members took a $250 account and compounded it to $49K in less than one month! <- not typical results at all, just shows the possibilities if used correctly.
You cant just join and start copying and pasting without some sort of knowledge.
With over 70,000 members in BE, 77% of them have remained customers, that speaks volume.
I am a promoter because that is what I have been doing for over 25 years in the marketing world. My sponsor is a promoter as well, and they just set a record by hitting presidential diamond in 20 days!
That would not have been possible if BE wasn't delivering what people are looking for with their products and services.
I honestly don't pay too much attention to haters, they'll find something to bitch about regardless.
The only thing I can say to all of you haters is this… I pray you have a clean slate and have never in your life made mistakes that you will forever be judged for.
No matter what did or did not happen prior to BE does not affect what BE is today.. and it is an Empire in the making.
Take it or leave it, so simple.
New recruit? The shill is strong in this one.
What happened, “planting your flag” with Epic Trading didn’t work out? (joined ~Sep 2020)
Shame, your education must be seriously lacking to be a serial victim to obvious scams. That or you obviously don’t care about stealing from people.
Either way carry on being a dirteating scumbag, the rest of our consciences stay clean and don’t depend on stealing from others to earn our bread.
Hi because you are saying that Be are scammers. They have created an application (Ozedit: spam removed)
Fuck off with your spam. You tried the bUt We HaVe An ApP! angle in #23 and were responded to.
If you want to address that response fine. Copy+paste marketing BS = GTFO.
There is a very popular HYIP Scam website template for $50 that offers a customized app for another $50 so don’t put too much faith in apps chief 🙂
OZ! they recently announced that the compensation plan has been improved. Can you review it, please?
Thanks for the work you do to help us to keep people away from scams like this.
Thanks for the heads up! I’ve flagged Be for a review update.
I’ve seen a lot of people i know be recruited to this company. One of my high school associates wanted to recruit me to join BE, which I found out through digging what they are all about.
All I got to say is that they are clearly a pyramid scheme. I doubt anyone, even if they are ranked as emerald or diamond, is making much out of it.
I saw one girl (ig: Thebosslady or whatever) saying you missing out and shit if you don’t join.
First off, if you’re making money, why would you share that knowledge of making money with others? Also, why would you need to recruit people to join? Oh that’s right, you’re a pyramid scheme.
It’s a pyramid, I have a friend recruiting people. I’m waiting for their crash soon.
hi everyone let’s talk about this company.
Why do you talk badly about it if it works. Just because you do multi level marketing?
If a company works, everyone talks about it. Go see the reviews on Google Play Store & Apple App Store everyone is talking about it well. Lots of positive reviews all making money by copying the trading signals they make.
They are good traders. There is also the ranking of the best traders, copy the signals of the forex market and even American indices. They make a lot of money. Do not defame this company.
If it didn’t work, people would know, but they work and they make people money.
Because a pyramid schemes “working” scams the majority of participants out of their money. This review about “good” or “bad”, it’s about facts.
Nobody outside of Be gives a crap about apps. Sockpuppet reviews are meaningless.
Want to prove the app isn’t just a vehicle to commit pyramid fraud with? Show us the audited retail sales revenue figures as a ratio against recruited affiliate revenue.
*crickets*
I’m sorry but what a scam they commit. (Ozedit: snip, read the review.)
Instead of asking dumbass questions read the review you’re commenting on.
All pyramid schemes are scams.
Pursuant to AM (#40) requesting a review update, I’ve gone over the current compensation plan provided on Be’s website (good to see they’re actually providing it).
I didn’t note any significant changes so I’ve just filled in what was missing from the original review.
I’ve also noted minor changes in the review update (published at the end of the original review above).
It’s obviously a pyramid, who want to charge you a membership and a monthly payment to work?
You get pay to work, you don’t pay people to work for them=, it’s clear, they steal you and that’s it!! Make sense!
I almost got on this until my friend told me be careful and read how pyramids work! Too good to be true!! No way! No BE, no scam!
Added note re: Be To Inspire following reader request.
Hello!
Now they advertise this Relic “crypto-trade” app. I’m wondering the extra risk this involves…
Thanks for the info.
So long as it’s not trading for you then you’re not really risking anything more than any other trading app.
Hi all, I can see this is spreading fast… I have this one old friend or “recruiter” calling me everyday now, I haven’t hear from him for ages before lol.
This company has also arrived to Italy, where I’m living now. That’s incredible.
It is definitely a pyramid scheme, 100% but ppl keep saying that they’re making money from the trading app.. That’s my only doubt.
Surely they’re not getting rich, but looks like they are making some (might be that they only post the winning bets, who knows).
Anyway, looking at who the founders are, I would never in my life give any money to them, I would rather pay a professional for that money.
You can definitely find all the features/services they provide for free or for a much cheaper price, as well as a higher value.
If any has more experiences with them or updates let us know. Do not give money to those scammers!
Ask for six consecutive months of verifiable trading results attributable to Be’s app.
*crickets*
I was sent this… But how can u tell if this is really from BE’s app?
I was told this is from a trader that works for them and sends signals through their app. I think this is just something that they use to convice people to buy in, as they’re not able to say what this is.
(Ozedit: link removed, see below)
@Hellodam
That’s a link to something in your Gmail inbox, doesn’t work publicly.
Not sure what the content was but unless it’s audited trading results over a considerable amount of time, for due-diligence purposes it’s worthless.
I have made money with the experts in this company.
maybe a mlm but really I don’t care if my mentor gets paid, okey but so do i.
You made money by others depositing, and some will lose money, that’s kinda ‘greedy’ with malice.
Okay guyz. i will be checking this whole thing from tomorrow. im paying 670$ from start (relic silver plus the titan app). if i see if its a real real scam. i will let u know.
its obviously a pyramid scheme. no doubt. my friend he works with them and he recommended me to start. so here am i.
im also in their group on fb where they post their daily profits (and losses). Looks really way too good to be true. but its worth a try.
He said also that i dont need to talk to people to make them join BE, i can just trade.
HOnestly i tried to check about any info about them, but couldnt find anthing until i found this site. I got intrested in trading few months ago.
done a bit of trading with fake money. wasnt doing too bad.
All pyramid schemes are scams. Your friend recruited you into a pyramid scheme.
Did you ask your friend for ~6 months of personal trading results? That’d be actual due-diligence.
Are you saying that all mlm’s are pyramid schemes..or illegal?
The ones without retail sales, or less retail sales volume than affiliate purchases.
Oz. Can you explain more what you mean by that?
A retail customer is someone who is not an affiliate. They never signed up as an affiliate and cannot earn anything no matter what they do.
They just buy products (think you walking into a supermarket and buying milk).
Affiliates are affiliates, whether they recruit anyone or not.
Both retail customers and affiliates purchase products. An MLM pyramid scheme exists when the majority of sales volume is sourced from affiliate spend.
I.e. In Be, this would be not enough retail customers buying subscriptions to even out affiliate subscriptions.
Wow. Thanks for this review! A lady that I’ve known for 7 or 8 years who bounces from mlm to mlm posted about this company on FB. But she didn’t say much except BE.
Then she posted photos of her coming back from Dubai. So she’s a heavy hitter anytime she makes a move to a new mlm she manages to meet with company owners.
I knew it was another mlm so I was curious about it and here I am.
I don’t know who you are OZ but I definitely like what you’re doing here on this site!
I literally couldn’t find anything about this company until I landed here. Your awesome and thorough review is very much appreciated.
Thanks for the support!
berules.com is off
Interesting development.
“bebackoffice.com” and “betopinspire.com” are still up. Monitoring.
edit: socials are still up so I think this might just be a misconfig error.
In this moment be arre in my country , I am from Colombia.
all the people trust but I know that he is a scam.
How much is gonna last this??
Same as any pyramid, until recruitment dries up.
By the time of this post, the financial superintendence of Columbia has issued a fraud alert on be.
Also, the Direct self Selling Regulations Council of the better business bureau (usa) has, after all it inquiries, referred their case with be to the federal trade commission.
It made several attempts to reach be but were unsuccessful. To me, this is a bright red flag! Rebranding coming soon!
Hi Nell, do you have some link about this new about Superintendence of Colombia??
BehindMLM covered it back in February – https://behindmlm.com/companies/be-rules-securities-fraud-warning-issued-by-colombia/
This is all over Norway lately . My dm is flooded with people telling me to join. And I honestly don’t know if people are aware they are a part of a pyramid scheme or not.
My mother fell in to one off the herbal life trap once and no matter what I told her she was blind to the fact that is was a known pyramid scheme it was almost as if she deep down knew but didn’t want to accept because she liked the team she was working with.
That’s why I hate this shit because they sell these fake dreams to people and try to pocket their money that all this is about.
And I’m pretty sure people get caught with the idea of forex and when they see BE for what it really is they change their idea and become promoters because they want to earn back the money they lost basically.
I hope this ends soon like every other trend that keeps popping up.
BE has been all over Norway as of lately and teenagers around 17-20 are getting lured in by each other thinking they will make everyone in their “team” millionaires.
Most of the kids joining are kids with bad grades and doesn’t research and falls for influencers with a ”rich” lifestyle like walid.hatem1 and Tobias vermund on TikTok. And if u check theirs profile is like the whole BE thing is a cult.
People claiming they’ve earned several thousand but shows no evidence. Shits dumb asf hope ppl don’t fall for this shit.
Apparently they are gonna open a office here in Norway, Oslo
Ok, I see your comments, I see your article. I´m a part of this company for almost a year now. I also was the meaning it´s a scam, on the beginning. And I know about this company for 4 years already. Refused to join 4 times, last year joined however after a research.
And it´s been the best experience since then. I´m not going to promote myself. I´m here, if you have questions, so I could answer everything unanswered. ( I hope I´ll get notified if any other comment would come here.)
I´m in network marketing industry for a longer period of time, I also was selling wellness products in one other company for more than 9 years. Until I saw a bigger vision and possibility to give people knowledge to make money instead of taking their money just for some products.
I see the most frequent question here is: Where is the difference between an affiliate and a customer in Be.
Very simple answer: When you purchase a bundle to join the academy, you are just a simple retail customer. Once you were open to promote this project and have at least one person who joins the academy thanks to you, you will become an affiliate – we have a “partnership form” or how should I say it, that you need to fill in with your details, to be eligible to get provisions in the future.
Since this moment you are an affiliate. Until then you still are only a retail customer. There need to me more than 60% of subscribers only retail customers. (Not only in Be. slowly this rule is coming into all the countries around the world.)
BTW: This company has a group of lawyers, who are taking care of everything, so everything is correct in every single country they are in.
That´s also why they are certificated in Italy (for the whole EU), because in Italy it´s very dificult to get a certification in network marketing industry (aspecially when it comes down to financial topics) – I must add, this company is mailny an EDUCATIONAL one.
And all the information they provide to us is for educational purposes. (They started a platform now, which can make trades for you, but until now everything was only an education.
They have NOTHING from our trades. It is NOT an investment company.
And I´m also only a student of this academy, who didn´t want to trade at the beginning, but I´m learning and have people around me, who are learning more than me and really are making good money on a monthly basis, because they are persistent and don´t give up easily.
Trading is a long term educational process. Not a quick rich scheme. (However many not-enough-educated distributors could promote it this way). Yet the academy could shorten this time and give you all the information needed to become a pro one day in the future.
I must confirm, I am not happy about people promoting their Apps as “You can make money without knowing anything but copying” – I´m showing people, how they can learn from those apps and how they can find their own way to trade, that would function for them for a long period of time, the best – if it would function until the end of their lives and beyond, but you know, it´s a living thing.
You can ask me anything and I´ll try to answer all those questions, If you are open to speak freindly to each other. 🙂
Have a ncie day guys and I hope for each of you, you will find the perfect option for you to live a better life. I found it thanks to Be. The concept, the people, those opportunities, everything together changes the life of our family and I´m thankful for it.
Nope. You sign up as an affiliate. Not recruiting new suckers as an affiliate doesn’t make you a retail customer (ref: FTC v. Herbalife, FTC v. Vemma).
Yeah, whatever “certification” you’re talking about has no legal bearing. It’s not a thing.
Speaking of regulation, any kind of automated trading is a securities offering. This requires BE to be registered with CONSOB in Italy, as well as financial regulators in every other jurisdiction they are promoted in.
Instead of bullshitting about some fictional “MLM certification”, how about providing evidence Be has registered its securities offering with CONSOB?
MLM + automated trading = investment company as per the Howey Test.
It doesn’t matter what you’re doing. You can’t circumvent securities fraud.
Sounds like the pyramid collapsed and the Islam brothers have gone back to their OneCoin Ponzi roots.
Thanks for the heads up, I’ve queued Be up for an updated review.
First: I was hoping for a conversation on a certain level of respect to each other. With this, I´m not involved in this communication anymore. (Ozedit: cool, bye.)
That was me being respectful.
But that’s not why you spat the dummy. You spat the dummy because Be is an indefensible pyramid scheme.
Best of luck with the scamming.
As a side note, I did some prelim research after queueing Be for an update. I didn’t find any auto-trading, I think it’s still just signals.
Way to misrepresent your MLM companies business model chief.
Hey, is there by any chance way I could contact you? Or is there way we could contact Norwegian customer protection services?
BE focuses recently on Norway quite a lot. They plan also one of those big meetings in Oslo during March. But they are all over other European contries already – Germany, Czechia, France etc. etc.
I tried to inform media, authorities and I dont know what but it didn’t work so far. But maybe Norwegian authorities might be a bit more keen on this. Unfortunatelly I don’t speak language.
ive already contacted “lotteri og stiftelsetilsynet” and told them about the pyramid scheme and this year they already said that they are gonna focus on pyramid schemes.
It’s crazy/sad how teens think they can be millionaires thru “be/mlm”. But i hope big newspapers like VG or Dagbladet talks about Be or pyramid schemes as a whole.
Would it help you if I could send you some of their official promo material?
Their presentantions in English (or Norwegian if I manage to get my hands on it) and so on? I “hacked” (talk my way in) them few months ago and they provided me with a link for their Google Drive.
Hey,
this scam has arrived in Denmark by the name BE movement. So sad to see how many people are falling for this scheme.
i hope for an update on this page, so that people can see what trash BE movement is.
Be has been in Denmark before, but lately their trash scheme has been boomin. and they are taking 1800 usd from a lot of young people.
Be movement was held last week in Breda, Netherlands. They want to milk last “victims”
I read all the comments since 2020 and I’m not sure I want to join this agency.
today I have the fourth call with them (italian guys who are in high tears), and we’re always in 30/40 people listening to their story and it’s seems like real things.
I reach the message “all the piramidal schems are scam” but I don’t understand why ALL.
I’m 16 years old and it seems a huge opportunity. In this 3/4 years something concrete came out about their scams?
I’m little scared about what to choose, and if you question this to them are like “that’s right I was scared too, everyone is scared to spend everything they have, but look at me where I am now”.
Sorry for my bad English.
I don’t expect a 16 year old to be equipped for MLM due-diligence so I’ll go a bit more out of my way here than I normally would.
Pyramid schemes are “real” in the sense those who get in early steal the money of those who are recruited after them. The earnings are real but it is obtained via fraud (pyramid schemes are illegal the world over).
Because math. How do you make money in pyramid schemes like BE?
You recruit new victims. Those victims have to recruit new victims until eventually critical mass is inevitably reached.
Then the wheels fall off and the pyramid scheme collapses.
At any given time in a pyramid scheme, the majority of participants have lost money. This is basic math.
No matter how many new participants are recruited, more must be recruited to pay the latest recruits. Then more must be recruited and so on and so forth.
I don’t know your personal situation but regardless, you hopefully have other options over becoming a pyramid scammer at 16.
Finally on a sidenote, please name the Be scammers who are trying to recruit young teenagers. Absolutely shameless charlatans that should be called out.
I can add one more link that I found through lots of search. Apparently be company tried doing sales of products something like an amazon vendor. You can check the link be.club
I found this info on their linktree linkt.ree/berules
There’s the google drive and more info that seems very outdated yet still relevant to their scamming techniques.
Honestly it took a while to find all this because there’s so little information out there for this be company. I initially found this site through a reddit thread after finding most of the info on my own.
Also it seems there’s a site called BFH (businessforhome.org) which has a ton more scam companies on it.
BE rebranded? Cant find much when googeling BE.
Part of the rebrand from Melius to Be was to hide in the search results.
Kinda backfired marketing wise.
Jon, You can search by GBR. Global Business Revolution.
They are a big group or team where yo can see the tactics of approach.
The headquarters of Be (berules.com) is in Dubai:
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But the fraudsters also have a branch in Milan (Italy):
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The Italians probably organized and hosted the last event in Vienna (Austria). The video was uploaded three days ago. Officially, the fifth anniversary was celebrated there. The presentation on stage was similar to OneCoin’s scam events and many guests were present.
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Numerous Italians were celebrated and honored for achieving new ranks. Matteo Bianco was presented as Presidential Diamond. On Instagram, this guy goes by the name matteobianco_papi and has 122,000 followers:
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The next convention is scheduled to take place in Budapest (Hungary) in September 2024.
The BEclub YouTube channel with 101 videos has existed since June 2020 and has 50,800 subscribers:
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youtube.com/@BEclub_/videos
PS: In addition to the website berules.com, there is also the website be.club.
Be on Instagram with 156,000 followers:
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instagram.com/wearebeofficial_
The domain berules.com was registered on April 14, 2020.
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For comparison, the data from be.club.
The domain be.club was registered on December 1, 2021.
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What role does Denmark play in this scam? Can anyone explain?
The BE Financial Rewards Plan was supplemented in 2023 (version 4) and can be downloaded here as a PDF.
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Quote from an article by BFH.org from September 24, 2023.
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businessforhome.org/2022/09/be-held-its-first-european-convention-in-italys-biggest-venue/
In the list of “Recommended Distributors”, BFH also mentions Max(imilian) Nilsenius, a former OneCoin fraudster:
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Article from December 10, 2021.
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businessforhome.org/2021/12/max-nilsenius-achieves-royal-diamond-rank-at-be/
The list of BE’s 70 top earners:
businessforhome.org/mlm-500-top-earners/?company_name=be
Matteo Bianco, who I mentioned in comment #92, earns “only” $70,000 per month. The absolute top earners are Juan Colorado and Laura Cañaveral with $250,000 per month.
Note. When I quote figures disseminated by Ted Nuyten, this does not mean that I believe that these figures are correct! If Ted Nuyten were connected to a lie detector, it would explode after three minutes at the latest.
I quote further lies from be.club.
Photos of the team members are of course not shown, just 15 ridiculous graphics! It’s also funny that these 15 people are all supposed to be reachable at the same e-mail address:
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The “Other professionals” section shows 17 similar graphics:
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Even these fictitious 17 “employees” cannot be contacted directly because only a single email address is given.
be.club/leadership/
The fraudulent Islam Brothers operate just as primitively with such fakes and claims as most of the players in the MLM.
Many people i know have gotten into this business, and try to make me join now.
The one Big argument they use is that BE have a DSA approval, which make it a legit and ethical Company. Does anyone know anything about this?
DSA approval = we paid the membership fee. It’s meaningless.
hi friend I have to point out that in Italy they are becoming very popular so as not to get caught they have masked their real name now they call themselves:
1) Evolution Legacy
2) Leverage group
but they belong to Be.
They recruit mostly very young people and the “modus operandi” is always the same brother, how can we stop them? The authorities in Italy are there but they don’t monitor properly.
I discovered through a chamber of commerce inspection that the registered office declared in Italy in Milan refers to another registered office in Belize (tax haven) in November 2023.
Mlm is a plague too many young people involved brother. Let’s stop these scammers!!
Hi people, hi Oz,
I’ve fallen out with my now ex partner over this as she is in it and has been member for arround 2 months and tried to warn her.
Can anyone help me how do you explain these links please? Am I right or wrong to warn her?
(Ozedit: links removes, see below)
Instead of asking me to explain content I didn’t author, scroll up and read the published Be Review.
if you see links 1 says government refferal states be.rules dsa approval isn’t genuine, also why are ther be.rules link and be.club link still active now?
Be is a pyramid scheme run by former OneCoin Ponzi scammers. This is where your due-diligence into Be should begin and end.
Ok I agree your right. Is ther a way you can report it?… I am in UK.
hi Oz, thx for all of the comments and heads up, i have been here for 3 hours looking at every comment and I know for a fact that is a scam and a pyramid scheme as in here Italy.
3 days ago a friend from another work said to me to try with him this online course and work, not only BE but with onevision also making me pay up to 3000 euros for a year including sagemaster crypto, sagemaster forex, WoW, Mindhub, shift, titan, and quest.
The thing is that affiliates or so called actually profit in a weird way as i see it as a race between workers earning from colleges “investment”.
tomorrow i have a call with 5 people, i guess victims of BE, and they want an answer from me to enter or no.
i need help pls i wanna make them and my friend feel good by saying that i like that they try to better they lives and and have prespectives, while i need a good excuse instead of saying a no i dont want to.
my friend would feel so bad knowing this and i wanna keep this info as a sectret to him for his own good.
he has been in course 1 month and he didnt have any work yet only learning , so not much from him, pls help how to confront these people who i genuenly feel bad… sorry for bad english if you see some errors.
@Jay
I think the FTC equivalent in the UK is the Office of Fair Trading.
@hello
All good. You’re better at English than I am at Italian so that’s a win for you :D.
Re. your friends, ask them how many retail customers they’ve sold something Be has to. Then ask how many people they’ve recruited.
You can then try to explain that an MLM company that isn’t selling something to retail customers (people not involved in the income opportunity) is a pyramid scheme.
Doesn’t have to be exactly like that but frame it as best you can. That’s the core issue you should be addressing but also keep in mind they might not care.
Thnx Oz for the review about “BE”. It’s gaining popularity here in Japan and a friend of mine ask me to join them.
I got scammed before so even though I’m getting hype with their to good to be true promises and limited time discount I take my due diligence and do a little research about the company until I saw this article and read all the comments.
It’s sad that they’re still scamming and taking advantage the people who just want to earn and grow their hard earned money for their retirement. (sorry for my english it’s not my native language)
Hi, I read everything from 2020 post ..
They are now in Japan , i really want to warn some of my friends but i dont how ..
They claim that they not MLM when i asked , but an educational platform something ..at first i got interested in learning more about how to trade yet i feel something is off as they promote more on recruiting (but saying not forcing us to join ..etc at the same time showing you some photos of their earnings to that company .. sorry for my bad english.
Ask them how many retail customers they have. That is subscribers who haven’t signed up to be promoters (promoters who can’t recruit aren’t retail customers so don’t let them get away with that).
As for MLM, you can ask to see the compensation plan and verify yourself. Commissions paid out on multiple levels = MLM, no ifs or buts.
I think a lot of this comes down to your friends denying MLM and the pyramid scheme without understanding what both are.
they are now also in the Philippines. And obviously they share the amount of “profit” they get from “trading” and comes with a couple of statements blah blah.
You would easily point it out as a Pyramid/MLM by looking their profile with matching links to register.
I have found an interesting and informative website.
ibb.co/2KgJZr6
letmeexpose.is/exposing-moyn-ehsaan-and-monir-islam/
@ Malanie
I don’t usually comment under my own name unless it’s in response to the Susan Boyle lookalike from north of the worst of England or the Nordic smurf whom I kept having to remind Ruja of who he was… but here we go.
Konstantin had, or has, a sense of humour.
The Islam brothers crashed hard after leaving OC. They crashed so hard that they begged to be let back in. K told them to make a video (and I really hoped someone saved it).
They wrung their hands and said leaving OC was the “biggest mistake of their lives”.
The video was broadcast and K still didn’t let them back in.
Ok, not sure what all of that was supposed to mean. So what if Konstantin had a sense of humor? Who cares if the Islam brothers wanted back in OC and Konstantin refused?
The Islam brothers crashed hard after getting out of OC, big deal. The point being they are all criminals. OC was a criminal enterprise. Whether you like it or not, you were part of that criminal enterprise.
Everyone who heavily promoted OC has now done everything in their power to try and wipe their involvement from their resumes.
Everyone of the major promoters knew OC was a Ponzi and Pyramid scheme. They didn’t care. All they cared about was how much money they could make.
They regaled everyone with their so-called expertise, due diligence, and they did none of it. It was how much money can I make.
They all got out not because their claim Ruja lied to them, but because the gravy train was drying up. Their referral commissions were going down by the week.
They knew the end was in sight. They just wanted to get away as quickly as possible so they didn’t get blamed when it crashed and burned.
It hurts recruiting for their next Ponzi de Jour. Which they all immediately jumped into again claiming it was the “real deal.” They learned their lesson from OC, yada, yada, yada.
Let’s get real. You and Gary got involved without doing a deep dive into who and what Ruja and OC was. Even with hundreds of us telling everyone what a Ponzi and illegal pyramid scheme OC was, you both ignored us and bought their hype we were “haters.” We had a “vendetta” against OC, etc, etc..
I, and many others, knew the moment we saw the marketing material for OC back in October of 2014 it was a Ponzi and illegal Pyramid scheme all rolled into one.
The only thing we didn’t know at that time was how big it was going to be. But when we saw who all who were promoting it, it was evident it was going to be big.
You can ridicule Jen and Bjorn all you want, but they knew OC was a criminal enterprise and you didn’t. You were still believing OC was real when Konstantin was arrested in the U.S. If that had not happened, you would still have believed OC was real.
The Islam bros have been pumping out paid marketing spam since almost the moment they left OneCoin to start their own scams.
One of the first group shots I saw (and use) was the ill-fitting “flood trousers” photo they used for Forbes spam. That was pretty early on.
From memory it started after Penman at the Mirror wrote a OneCoin article on them:
mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/flashy-islam-brothers-heavily-promoted-10121441
Long post but I hope this will help others.
I live here in the US and joined BE last April and paid $1800 to get access to the apps (shift, titan), and all their educational platforms in Wowpowers.
I was told that upon joining that your mentors (or coaches) will help you generate income and get that $1800 back in one month.
They promote 3 ways of earning (trading, affiliate program, and quest). I thought it would be a good opportunity to earn some extra money since I am an immigrant and my earnings from my job barely meets our needs every month.
Since I trust my recruiter (who happens to be my co-worker), I joined.
Now, upon payment, a group of people will help you setup your apps and how to access the training materials. They encouraged me to start trading using a dummy account before creating a live account.
I was so excited. I tried my best to watch streams and endless numbers of videos in their website which I eventually found out, is readily available on youtube, for free. But that didn’t dampen my spirits.
I was told that through the shift/titan app, you get to copy trades from professionals who win their trades at a minimum of 75%, meaning, I would generate income even if I just win 30% of my trades (with risk/reward ratio).
I was so excited and was already planning on vacations and buying a house, etc, and thought that this was the best decision I made in my life. Boy I was so wrong.
During my “self” training, I had little to no success in the dummy trading account. I told myself that this is ok since I am still training and one of the members told me this is normal.
My coach then (who invited me to join) asked me to make a list of 20 of my closest colleagues who I can try to recruit into joining BE. I made up a list and gave it to my coach. We made several zoom sessions as the people I put on my list have different schedules.
My colleagues were skeptical as $1800 is a lot of money. A handful of my recruits were interested, on the premise that I show proof of income first, before they would join.
This prompted me to start opening my live account, and got approval from my coach since it has been 3 weeks since I joined and I had some experience as well with the dummy account.
I was also added to a group chat in messenger that would “help” new members with trading signals. Then I started trading.
I was so into making profits as I wanted to be in the affiliate program, which I would realize in the end, was all that matters in this company.
I did live trading and was also watching trading videos provided in the group chat at this same time. I copied trading signals available in titan/shift hoping for profits. All didn’t end well.
Loss after loss soon followed. I was following trade signals from the app religiously as I see them, some with small wins, but mostly losses.
Now, my colleagues who I initially recruited were asking me for updates as they were interested too. However I just lied to them that I was still practicing and I will be doing the live trading soon, in hopes to keep them interested.
Eventually, I lost about $1k in trading.
During the orientation, you will be told that coaches will help you get your money back, help you gain profits, and eventually, financial freedom.
The moment that I realized that all my recruits would no longer join (since I can’t show any proof of profits), my coach left me hanging, losing money.
I reached out to other coaches and asked for help, but was just told that sometimes, professional traders lose as well. I told them, I was thought this would be profitable??
Their response is that it may take 6months to be profitable in this business. I was like, what?? This is not what I was told when I was being recruited!! I then stopped my subscription and called my bank, asked for a reversal.
Looking back, I thought this was the best decision i’ve made, turns out, it was the worst.
They are not interested in making you a successful trader. All they want is for you to recruit, and if you can’t, then you will be forgotten.
Some people in this company may be earning profits as posted in their fb page, but it doesn’t show those who are losing. Bottom line for me, this is nothing but just a pyramid scheme.
be is now in Canada, most subscribers are minorities. I attended their presentation and it looked too good to be true so I looked for more information. Luckily, I found this review.
Thank you Oz and Blitzkrieg, you saved me from being scammed.
Have the fraudulent Islam Brothers started a new scam? I received an invitation for sagemaster.io by email today.
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linktr.ee/be_sagemaster
The link list also contains a PDF “Be, Sagemaster” and the Compensation Plan.
PS: BehindMLM reader “hello” already mentioned sagemaster in comment #104 on April 10, 2024.
The domain sagemaster.io was registered privately on May 24, 2022 and updated on September 6, 2024.
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An Instagram account sagemaster based in the UAE with 20 posts and 3,786 followers has existed since November 2022. The username of this account has already been changed once.
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instagram.com/sagemaster_/
Yesterday’s post was personally liked by Moyn Islam. 😀
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instagram.com/p/C_i1m9oimY2/
Daisy Boo also sent me an email today inviting me to an event in Hungary.
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Two interesting partial quotes from the “Terms of Service” of sagemaster.io as of January 2, 2024.
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The visitor statistics of sagemaster.io from June to August 2024 are led by Italy (61.79%), followed by Colombia (10.20%), United Arab Emirates (6.12%), Japan (4.31%) and Switzerland (4.07%).
On average, sagemaster.io had 132.2K visitors in these three months.
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Didn’t the visitors from the UAE read that they are not allowed to use this portal? 😀
Which company is behind the sagemaster.io scam? The fraudulent Islam Brothers claim in their Terms of Service:
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clickwrapagreement.notion.site/Terms-of-Service-2b5cbcf04caa4cb0b10b123acea38ff3
This lie is repeated on the fraud portal sagemaster.io.
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So that this lie is not captured by the search engines, the Islam Brothers have inserted this area, which I have marked in red, as a graphic.
The biggest crooks always have the most followers on Instagram. Take Moyn Islam, for example. His account has existed since July 2020 and he has 495,000 followers. Why has this infamous fraudster changed his account username six times?
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instagram.com/moynislam/
On his personal website moynislam.com, which has existed since November 2019, this thug describes himself like this:
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