USFIA affiliates call for assasination of Ponzi whistleblowers
In an apparent continuation of the threats of violence that saw USFIA protests called off (prior to its regulatory shutdown), USFIA investors in China and Malaysia have called for two whistleblowers to be assassinated.
The disturbing revelations see the fallout of USFIA, who ran the $32 million dollar GemCoin Ponzi scheme, turn distressingly ugly.
Epoch Times has uncovered the story, with captured screenshots of a WeChat chat group of almost 500 GemCoin investors exhibited as chilling evidence (shoutout to Kasey Chang for translating).
According to Screencap of WeChat, various Gemcoin members in XiAn, Beijing, Hunan, Quenming, and Malaysia are advocating online that they want to engage “human flesh search engine” and want to “do away” with the two Gemcoin investors that turned mole.
A “human flesh search engine” is an Asian term for an online public vigilante search, typically used to identify persons unknown who commit reported crimes.
That GemCoin investors are evoking the term on individuals blowing the whistle on crime, is the height of irony.
What GemCoin investors want to do with the identity of the investors they believe brought down USFIA starts off innocent enough:
One with screenname 富豪财富中心:壮志凌云毛新华 (USFIA Wealth Center / Dream for the sky Mao Xing Hua) wrote:
“Gemcoin’s misfortune is our misfortune. Gemcoin’s safety is our happiness!
Young men start the human flesh search engines. I don’t have a US visa, but if they’re in (the) country (China), heck we’ll go protest in front of this SOB’s house!”
Do I think it absurd that Ponzi investors would picket the house of a whistleblower? Sure, but (at least in the US), they’d be free to do so (with respect to local residential laws).
The discussion in the GemCoin WeChat Group however soon deteriorates, with open calls for assassination.
Another with screenname 大江东去 (Great River Headed East) wrote:
“Let’s crowdfund up some money, send a killer to the US and do away with the two bastards!”
In the wake of the SEC’s allegations that USFIA is a $32 million dollar Ponzi scheme, other USFIA investors offered up somewhat confusing commentary:
Another from Hunan wrote “XXX did not only made enemy of Chief Chen, but made enemies of 500K strong Gemcoin family!”
Another wrote “We Gemcoin family should also release some news to battle with XXX!”
A 懒羊羊 (Lazy Sheep) from XiAn wrote “US media is doing free publicity for Gemcoin. Let them tell everybody about Gemcoin.”
Confusing perhaps, until you look at the information being disseminated by USFIA to its Chinese investors.
Gemcoin in the meanwhile released “498th webinar and transcript” on 9/30, and on 10/1 wrote on a Sina blog that the raid was a “routine SEC audit”, that “if you open a restaurant in the US and people complained about your food’s unsanitary, then health department will visit your restaurant.
It’s perfectly routine.” on 10/2 on an audio sharing service “Himalaya” there was an audio “Chief Qian post-UN-meeting important talk”.
That of course doesn’t justify calls for assassination, but with USFIA purportedly dismissing the SEC’s complaint as a “routine audit”, you can sort of see where the otherwise absurd less threatening chatter is coming from.
With Ponzi regulation in Asia a long drawn out process, that is often instigated far too late, what it will take for GemCoin investors there to full appreciate the extent of which and how they were scammed, is unclear.
In the meantime, perhaps emboldened by Steve Chen’s invitation to top USFIA investors to shoot guns at his Quail Ranch, there’s apparently an evident faction of USFIA investors who aren’t adverse to making death threats against those they believe are responsible for USFIA’s shut down.
If it ever sinks in that they were infact taken for a ride by Steve Chen and his fellow USFIA insiders, who knows just how serious this might get.
In the meantime, what protections authorities in the US are extending to those who assisted them in their USFIA investigations, if any, are unclear.
Stay tuned…
Here’s my “takedown” of the bull**** blog on 9/29 claiming “There was no FBI, it’s just SEC routine audit, American media is bull****”.
amlmskeptic.blogspot.com/2015/10/scam-hilarity-how-gemcoin-scammer.html
Attorney Long Z. Liu said all the documents are done and his class action lawsuit will be filed on Monday and a press conference on Tuesday is scheduled.
He said that due to the complexity of the Gemcoin case, with a long of background, he needs to dot the i’s and cross the t’s, to make sure the filing is as perfect as possible, so it was slightly delayed, but he’s ready, with plaintiff and witness and the filing all ready.
He plans to file the lawsuit on Monday and hold a press conference on tuesday, with media’s help, to ask more victims of Gemcoin scam to come forward and join the class action lawsuit.
Liu analyzed the four possibilities:
1) Chen does a runner / Liu will ask the court to forfeit all of Chen’s assets including the 6 houses under Chen and 48 accounts
2) Chen does a runner and get a lawyer to fight by proxy / Liu will the attorney to be dismissed and try Chen by absentia.
3) Chen took the fifth / then the case is practically won
4) Chen fight till the bitter end / every word, every bit of evidence can be used against him, in a later criminal case.
Liu used a comparison with a lawyer Liang that shocked the LA area when he helped a witness in a certain case he’s representing to attempt to leave the country (i.e. obstruction of justice / witness tampering).
That guy only got a few thousand bucks. That’s nothing compared to Chen’s scam in the tens of millions. He opined that criminal case is pending, and the Feds are looking for co-conspirators, that everyone already suspected.
NOLINK://dailynews.sina.com/bg/news/usa/intnews/chinapress/20151002/17056947627.html
That other case regarding Liang is about “birthing centers” in SoCal where pregnant Chinese woman get a ‘travel visa’ to the US and sit in these ‘birthing centers’ in the US until baby’s born, get citizenship, then go back to China.
Liang was supposed to be representing the pregnant women, but one of them offered him 6000 to run, and he took the money and arranged to have them transported all the way to San Francisco and make a run for it.
The woman was not aware she’s already on a “material witness” list and was stopped at the gate and blurted out “my lawyer told me it’s okay” even after the judge already removed Liang from the case.
I don’t mean to rain on Liu’s parade, but has he considered SEC intervention?
A Receiver has been appointed and once a preliminary injunction is in place, won’t we just see any third-party lawsuits stayed?
Anyway, between this and Vemma… sounds like I’m in for another busy week. Looking forward to the Steve Chen criminal case being unsealed (or filed) soon.
The SEC’s civil case is still sealed on Pacer.
I know, I know. But he has to act as if he’s doing something. it’s not as he’ll tell all the victims he’s representing to “it’s okay, receiver will take care of you know”. After all, he speaks Chinese.
To us, it’s all duplicated effort. But unless Mr. Seaman is going to do a full bilingual site, there’s a place for Mr. Liu. Whether it’s wroth 33% of any judgement… That’s not for us to decide.
next tuesdays arcadia city council meeting, is probably going to be about the mansonisation issue, with a full on attack against ‘save the highlands’ which is fronted by david arvizu.
ken hui the powerful/prominent chinese arcadian businessman has thrown his weight behind sho tay and the pro mansonisation view.
i know mansonisation is a long standing issue of discord in arcadia, but it should not be used to Deflect attention from the burning issue at hand, which is john wuo’s involvement in gemcoin, and an explanation from the city council about how such a ponzi scheme with guns and goons, operated in full view of the arcadia city council and the arcadia police department.
what is the councils stand, should john wuo at least recluse himself from being on the council, till his name is cleared by the FBI?
John Wuo is obviously not going to last in the council. As I understand the next in line is not pro-McMansion…
So understandably Ken Hui is pissed, and trying to make it a race issue.
I wasn’t aware houses had a race, but maybe things are different in China.
Finally, the OTHER major Chinese newspaper covered the Gemcoin, but it’s pretty standard coverage. Title was “SEC: USFIA ‘Gemcoin’ worthless” and basically repeated the AP summary except in Chinese. Nothing new here.
NOLINK://udn.com/news/story/6811/1226827-%E7%BE%8E%E8%AD%89%E7%AE%A1%E6%9C%83%EF%BC%9A%E5%AF%8C%E8%B1%AA%E9%9B%86%E5%9C%98%E3%80%8C%E7%8F%8D%E5%AF%B6%E5%B9%A3%E3%80%8D%E7%84%A1%E5%83%B9%E5%80%BC
Tsingtao is repeating a rumor that all 30 top level USFIA execs have left the US on the 1st.
NOLINK://www.singtaousa.com/530766/post-30%E7%8F%8D%E5%AF%B6%E5%B9%A3%E9%AB%98%E7%AE%A1%E5%85%A9%E5%A4%A9%E5%89%8D%E5%85%A8%E9%9B%A2%E7%BE%8E/?variant=zh-hk&fs=16
UDN, the OTHER major Chinese newspaper, is reporting that the latest Webinar from USFIA, held on 30th, claimed all sorts of crap.
* “Applying for virtual currency platform trading, almost, will profoundly shock Wall Street”
* “We don’t issue securities, we sell gems and give away points, then a different company convert that into cryptocurrency, all legal”
* “We will do special sale on 10/16. If you buy 10K of gems, we’ll give you 10K worth of gems AND DOUBLE the Gemcoins, 20K worth.”
* “The gems includes amber, red agate, larimar, and turquoise, 100% natural gems”
NOLINK://udn.com/news/story/6811/1226830-%E5%AF%8C%E8%B1%AA%E9%9B%86%E5%9C%98%E8%A6%81%E5%87%BA%E5%94%AE%E5%AF%B6%E7%9F%B3%EF%BC%9F-%E7%BE%8E%E8%AD%89%E7%AE%A1%E6%9C%83%E7%A6%81%E6%AD%A2%E8%B2%B7%E8%B3%A3
Left for where though? They sure as shit didn’t run off back to China…
Depends on how far up the food chain Operation Foxhunt want to go for 2015 I guess.
Well hopefully the FBI will give us something to chew on this week.
Steve Chen doesn’t strike me as the kind of chap who takes having to flee and start over rather well.
He definitely appeared to have put some roots down in Arcadia.