Total Takeover stealing affiliate commissions?
One of the pillars of MLM is that when you earn a commission, that money is yours.
You earnt it and no matter what happens (regulatory intervention the obvious exception), those funds belong to you.
As per Total Takeover’s Terms and Conditions:
Required Purchase. In order to maintain as an active Affiliate, Affiliates must pay a monthly maintenance fee of $89.95. Failure to maintain this requirement may result in account being terminated.
Here’s what they don’t tell you…
In a nutshell, the Total Takeover’s business model sees affiliates pay $89.95 every 30 days to qualify to earn commissions on recruited affiliates who also pay $89.95 every 30 days.
Regular commissions are paid weekly, as affiliates are billed 30 days recurring from when they made their initial $89.95 payment.
There is also a monthly commission paid, based on how many active affiliates there are in a Total Takeover affiliate’s matrix.
Seeking to cancel their affiliate membership, one affiliate sent Total Takeover a cancellation request towards the end of February.
When one tries to cancel their Total Takeover affiliate membership, here’s the reply you receive:
Hello, This is our first message from you. Thank You for your patience.
You still have a great position in the Company. Take into account that this is just the FIRST cutoff and thousands more are coming!
It takes more than two weeks to build a large residual income and it WILL happen, just not immediately.
However this is the only company with the means to get you there within months not Years.
We love that you saw our vision and the reason why Total Takeover was created. Already over $200,000 in commissions in only a few short weeks!
We know it takes work to succeed in this industry; that’s exactly why we are committed to providing the resources for you to make
you a total success.There is so much more that hasn’t even been unveiled or mentioned yet! (LIKE WHAT WE WILL BE RELEASING WITHIN THE NEXT 3 WEEKS!)
However, If you request to cancel you will forfeit your current position and any and all commissions that are owed to you.
If you still wish to leave Total Takeover, we will process your request as soon as we have your reply.
If you still wish to leave Please respond with “Yes, Cancel Me”
We will eliminate your position and any income owed to you.
If you wish to stay and take advantage of being part of this movement, please respond with: “I’m a leader and I will stay!”
– TTO Support Team
“We will eliminate any income owed to you”?
Uh, what? That doesn’t sound right…
Taking a few days to think about the situation they were now in, the affiliate in question sent the following reply back a few days later:
Ok, that is fine but how can you deny me my commission? It is already earned and due to me. Why would you ask me to build a team and then when I decide it’s not for me, then you deny my commission.
Do you think that is fair? Better yet, is it legal? How would you like it if I took your commission away after you earned it?
Later that day the affiliate requested their account be terminated.
The following day Total Takeover sent their response:
Hello, You cannot earn commissions if you quit.
You will not be active during the time we pay out. You are now cancelled.
Sorry to see you go before you ever got started. It is sad to us admin to see some people treat TTO and Network marketing in general as a lottery ticket. Then get angry when they aren’t rich in the first week.
Understand that there are thousands coming and its only a matter of time before they start making a lot of money and YOU can position yourself to take advantage of that fact by going to work and be a leader along side the rest of us who are leading.
– TTO Support Team
“Go fuck yourself, and we’re gunna keep your money!”
TotalTakeover failed to respond to the affiliate after they sent the account termination email.
How much in commissions was ultimately stolen by Total Takeover is not clear. But if affiliates wish to cancel their $89.95 payment, evidently Total Takeover will take it upon themselves to keep any commissions earnt for themselves.
With a company already running a legally questionable compensation plan, by way of paying commissions on the recruitment of new affiliates, the legality of withholding earned commissions probably doesn’t phase them.
What Total Takeover’s actions do though, is reflect quite poorly on its founders, Wallace Nuanez, Dave Lear and Val Smyth.
As dodgy as your comp plan is, at least pay the people what you promised them. Commissions earnt are not yours to keep, and holding commissions hostage to get people to keep paying $89.95 a month is just low.
Just reading over that first email Total Takeover sent this affiliate again, I have to say this is sleazy MLM marketing at its best.
Brrr, I’m gunna need a shower after writing this…
This is amazing. I have cant believe TTO is doing this.
Those are the worst sounding support emails I have ever seen. Val Smyth has just ruined himself in networking.
I heard he is already going to a new Travel Deal next month. If his followers follow him there then they are complete fools.
Well, damn. Maybe one of TTO’s product offerings should be a brand name tube of lubricant for all those who get shafted after trying to collect any commissions earned upon cancellation.
Its a shame to see people who have nothing better to do manufacture such nonsense. I’m with Total Takeover, never had a problem receiving pay.
Additionally, Anyone who cancels keeps their position for 90 days and has commissions held for them. What company in the industry do you know of that pays people who choose to CANCEL What does CANCEL MEAN to you??? DUR!?!? lol
I do know that TTO is taking care of EACH membership on a case by case basis. If someone did Zero work and only profited from the Matrix and the efforts of others… They didn’t technically EARN anything.
If you are having trouble please contact the company and allow them to help you. Please remember that each company must abide by the Policies and Procedures that were signed on the subscription date.
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You say one thing, Total Takeover support says another.
And you know this because????
You Are TTO Support???
Or are you the person who made up these emails??
Try again.
I quoted emails sent to an a Total Takeover affiliate sent by Total Takeover support.
You on the other hand are butthurt.
Being butthurt is all very well but it doesn’t exactly trump actual emails from Total Takeover support.
Really need to get your facts strait.
I most of this is false.
Remember that these people are working HARD to help people!
Dont pass judgement… (Which I see you do on a regular basis about EVERY company in the industry)… unless you know the blood sweat and tears it takes to make this a reality!
I would know I’m one of them.
I’ve had numerous emails from people thanking us! They’ve never found so much success before anywhere else.
Also, if someone cancels… That’s what they agree to.. If you cancel a membership to the Gym… do you still get to participate in ANYTHING from that Gym??? NO! All of this is handled on a case by case basis. TTO has bent over backwards helping those who made a real effort!
ALSO This person probably had someone request a refund… which means there was no commission to pay them anyway~!
Bad Article Try again!
Makes me angry when we work so hard to help people to have someone LIE! ugh!
this takes time away from my family and you’re working against all of us!
What Total Takeover support sent this affiliate is pretty straight-forward.
Cancel your account and we’ll keep your commissions.
That’s just not on. You can harp on about it being lies but what they’ve stated is quite clear.
of course they are ‘working hard’ to help themselves and the top approx 1% members.
don’t be so ‘touched’ [pun intended] by their calls for ‘working hard’, they are NOT a charitable institution.
they want to work hard and encourage everybody to ‘work hard’, so that they can fill their pockets.
please’ recruit for them’, or get buttkicked and remain unpaid.
this ‘helping people’ excuse is getting so graaaating, i’m wondering why ponzi people cannot get more creative.
perpetual dumbness may be an explanation.
The problem is you don’t have any evidence to support your side other than your own opinion, which makes you sound like you’re in denial.
You should have attempted to find some quotable facts, that everybody can verify for themselves, before attempting your rebuttal.
Well, here’s my 2 cents:
I “joined” during pre-launch and signed up for Val Smyth’s COOP and paid my (then) $99. I was PROMISED a certain # of paid members under me.
Ok – jump to launch day and I had, I think (forgive my memory) already paid my $89 monthly fee………… fine.
By now I had ONE paid signup, all the other 256 (whatever) were “free” members.
It soon came time for the next month’s membership of $89 to be taken out toward the end of Feb. and I decided to stick it out another month. I purposely did the auto-recruiter because I am NOT a good personal recruiter.
My next membership of $89 is due on the 26th of March.
How much have I earned altogether? SIX frigging dollar$.
This program came VERY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED to me. I wish I had gone with my gut feeling a month ago and cancelled then.
Instead, I just cancelled now and certainly am not going to worry about losing my $6.00 commission.
People – be forewarned – I smell a rat. 🙁
I am in TTO and am glad they did not pay this person. They are not a team player. Val and Dave are great leaders.
Total Flop over been a very dodgy program always got something to deceive you out of money.
200k freebies and less than 5k upgraded to get a bunch of nothing for a product and were hoping for retirement from the bogus spillover. looks to me they all are quitting the 90 a month gimmick
@Karen
Not being “a team player” is a pretty shonky reason to steal already earnt commissions.
This is not how you run an MLM company.
What a Shame for TTO.
When I requested my commission:
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That’s highway robbery.
Any other Total Takeover affiliates going to come on here and deny the obvious?
why? were you suppose to get a cut of his commissions? That’s the only way being a ‘team player’ would have affected you. and great scammers usually look like ‘great leaders’. They certainly lead you to part with your cash. certainly great for them. lol
hey ken, weren’t you in achieve community as well?
seeing that you have ‘smelled the rat’ a bit late, this time around too, i hope you have asked your ‘one paid signup’ to cancel as well!
are you done now ken, or are you still sniffing around other ‘opportunities’ ?
besides, why are people expecting any kind of integrity from an out and out ponzi scheme?
Jordon, I agree with you… If people would work the program (which most who signed up, will), they will benefit beyond their wildest dreams, in time.
Problem is; some people who have really, just turned Criminal, expect everything for FREE, without working, for things.
One of the Definitions for Criminal; is one who, is out exchange. They exchange nothing, for something.
Those after a while, justify, that the world owes them a living and expect, everything for Free. Look at our Government welfare programs and what that has done to people and society.
Such people ruin it for everyone else who is hard working.
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So lets not destroy everything, as we are full of hate, (the anatomy of hate; is Misunderstanding).
Get your info, from the source and make sure, you read the fine lines, so you don’t degrade yourself further, by having to justify your actions, to make others wrong and your self right.
That is what leads one down, in Consciousness, which ends up hurting us all.
High Conscious Beings, know, we are each responsible for our own lives and what we do, is why, we are in the condition, we are in.
The solution; is to understand. Hate and No understanding is why we have the problems, we have in society.
One can understand, and love his fellow man, if he takes responsibility, for his own acts.
He can see, his part, in why things, go wrong, and so quits blaming others for his condition. High Conscious beings take Responsibility.
oho! ‘god’ is no longer enough, to support ponzi schemes and their ‘helping nature’.
now we have to bastardize spirituality too.
recruiters are ‘evolved consciousness’, non recruiters are ‘criminals’!!
go away before i kick your ass. neanderthal.
@anjali
I hope you will be happy to hear that I learned my lesson.
I WAS in fact, in ACHIEVE, and for that matter several others; 3 of which crashed and burned within one week of each other.
I’ll admit to the fact that I have a few positions in Unison Wealth bought last year which I’ll just keep and withdraw when and if the positions actually cycle.
But I FINALLY realize that cyclers and revshare-type programs are 99% of the time scams & ponzis and something I will no longer bother with.
What amazes me most is that new ones are popping up each day.
While I find the negativity of BehindMLM somewhat cloying, I understand it’s purpose.
What I’d like to know is if there exists a FLIP SIDE to this – one which recognizes “GOOD” programs that are worthwhile considering?
Thanks 🙂
a brave and graceful reply mr ken, congratulations! i take back the sarcasm of post#18.
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all the best!
BehindMLM isn’t the place for personalized MLM recommendations Ken.
Good luck in your search.
Total PONZI, if you feel you got burnt, simply report the company to your local state attorney general’s office and/or the US FTC and they be fried in due time.
Quite a specific cancellation email there. I think the boasting about commissions is probably fake due to the personalized contact in an attempt to keep them as a member.
I always maintained that TT was a joke and for what reason it was created in the first place when it just rehashes The Legends Network training material.
The sad thing is I actually know some big name marketers who are behind this just because it was recommended by Matthew Graves.
WOW Great Job Val Smyth. Another winner.