TelexFree VOIP “impossible to sell”
Yesterday saw dramatic scenes unfold at TelexFree’s Massachusetts’ head office, culminating in police being called to the scene to remove the company’s affiliates from the building.
What we weren’t sure on at the time was who called the police.
Luckily local Boston media were on location, with Wicked Local’s Daily News Staff reporting it was Steve Labriola himself who called the police on the affiliates.
Labriola said he called the police to intervene Tuesday when the crowd began to grow outside the company’s offices.
When asked if he might help affiliates get some answers by requesting management talk to affiliates, a Boston police officer who responded to Labriola’s call for help later told affiliates:
None of them are gunna come out man, they’re staying in there. They see this many people, they’re scared.
Affiliates gathered at TelexFree office to demand why the company, literally overnight, had made changes to their AdCentral investment positions.
Previously affiliates had been told there would be no change to their existing positions, with many expecting to be paid out their weekly $20 a week ROI per position for the remainder of the maturity period (52 weeks).
Short of trying to re-invent themselves as a “customer acquisition company”, TelexFree have thus far failed to explain the reason behind the changes.
In an interview with Wicked Local (TelexFree management weren’t scared of them), Steve Labriola gave a reporter an update on the current SEC investigation into the company,
Labriola claimed executives from the company met with state officials last week to discuss TelexFREE’s business model.
“I think the outcome of that day was pretty successful, but we’ll have to see how it lands,” he said.
Reading between the lines, it would appear obvious that these latest changes are a direct result of that meeting. TelexFree did hint as much when they cited “regulatory requirements” as the reason for the change. However until Labriola spoke to Wicked Local, no specifics had been revealed.
Reading between the lines, I’d guess that the recent change was to prevent TelexFree from paying out on existing AdCentral positions going forward – at least not without any retail activity taking place. With affiliates able to self-fund the $249 a month fund withdrawal qualification however, it appears that even with the recent changes retail activity will be unlikely.
Exactly how unlikely?
Speaking to Wicked Local, one TelexFree affiliate spelled out the problem thousands of them are now facing:
One associate, who declined to give his name, said most people who have signed up with TelexFREE have been making money by posting ads for the company, not by selling its products.
People become promoters by paying an entry fee – the company used to charge as much as $1,375 for a “family kit” but now has a single rate of $149. Some have as much as $10,000 invested, the associate said, which they now cannot access unless they start to either sell the phone service or buy it themselves.
“It’s almost impossible to sell,” he said.
Labriola might be heavily pushing this new artificial notion that TelexFree has been about VOIP customers, but it seems that their affiliates (who signed up for passive AdCentral ROIs) aren’t buying it.
Meanwhile, when asked about the current status of the SEC investigation into TelexFree,
Brian McNiff, a spokesman for Secretary William Galvin’s office, on Tuesday said the state’s investigation is ongoing.
Steve Labriola certainly sounds optimistic about the investigation, but then keep in mind this is the same guy who in January told affiliates that “there is no investigation started or presented to TelexFree in any shape or form“.
Stay tuned…
hahahhahahhaha. i knew it.
Even telexzombies knew it. I’ve been trying to find ONE SINGLE PERSON in the world who bought/buy TFs VoIP plan monthly to really use it.
Oh please, just check at how much higher it costs when compared to Skype, for example, in case you just want to ignore all other free options.
What you all should do now is send William Galvin’s office with “please close TelexFree and give me my money back” letters. One per person please.
You can even group together and sign a petition if you’re near Boston. In fact, gather up a couple hundred people, all holding protest signs, carry long banner, and CALMLY march to his office, then have a rep hand over the petition to his office. CALMLY. Make sure you call the TV stations and other news outlets and let them know early on.
I do want to try and stay away from the urge to say “I told you so” because I think most of us have made poor choices at one time or another in our lives knowing that perhaps it wasn’t the best choice.
I truly feel for those inocents that really thought this was going to be a wonderful oportunity for them and now there’s so much sadness that will fill the space of hope. I hope there is some justice at the end of this ordeal.
My prayers go with you.
I really have a hard time trying to sort the “inocent” out of the “ignorant” people. And by “ignorant” I mean people who just make the decision of ignoring facts. I do not know about the US, but in Brazil prople have been warned that TF was a scam since early 2013.
The result? No one listened, even after Brazil has blocked TF and forbidden any new subscription. They thought it was all just a big conspiracy to prevent poor people from getting rich (much people still think that’s the case).
After the ban in Brazil, people started using US proxy servers to be allowed to access e-Wallet and related sites, started faking needed documents and information and all that jazz.
So, in the end, I’m not sure the number of inocent people would be that high, IF there’s a single inocente involved.
T.F zombies should start a class action suit, before the company declare bankruptcy and walk away with all their monies, legally…
Money’s already gone, transferred to various Telex-something entities like TelexMobile, TelexFree Financial, TelexElectric, and so on.
http://patrickpretty.com/2014/03/18/washington-state-rejects-telexfree-bid-to-register-as-telecommunications-firm/
Class actions are too slow to organize and pursue.
To protect investors a quick and certain emergency intervention is needed. Only government agencies can do that, which is why the SEC investigation of TF is a very big deal.
It takes awhile to gather the data but once the SEC or other govt agencies have it the hammer comes down fast, hard and sure.
Souza brought up a good point: Costas claimed they have like 2.5 million customers… using 11 million VOIP minutes.
That’s an average of 3 minutes per customer (per month)
WTF?! What sort of long distance company is this?
http://www.jornal.us/article-681057.Telexfree-O-sonho-acabou.html
In other news, Boston area paper took notice:
http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/article/20140401/NEWS/140409503
They were careful in not calling TelexFree anything illegal, but they did say: “Dozens of people who have paid to promote TelexFREE…”
Since when does salespeople PAY for their jobs, eh?
Maybe people only use TelexFree VOIP to call up people to find out why they’re offline on Skype?
“To become a TelexFree promoter, one must first buy 1 VOIP subscription, and set up and register an account.”
That initial purchase is MANDATORY for all promoters, even in countries where the VOIP service doesn’t work. It’s more like a registration fee than a subscription.
“To qualify for binary commssions, promoters must have at least ONE active VOIP customer”.
That customer can be themselves, or a directly recruited promoter. Promoters who don’t need to meet that qualification criterion, e.g. if they only have a single account with no sub accounts, can simply disable the VOIP service by not paying the invoice after the first month.
Hey Oz:
Telex just changed their “About the founder” to “About the founders” in their website: http://www.telexfree.com/founders/
Previously it was just Merrill in that section, now they have added Wanzeler, including his photograph.
They have also corrected the lie about Merrill graduating from the university. It now says he just studied economics. Still no mention as to his time heading an office cleaning micro business.
The writeup also changes some dates, so that Telex now appears have been founded in 2012, as per their latest PR propaganda.
Also Merrill’s picture next to the huge Hummer ls now gone… LOL!
Why the changes, now?
Go figure.
Cheers, A.
If that’s the case why not use the original, open source, GNU licensed JITSI (http://www.jitsi.org) software that TF copied? Lol
One must simply love the text and photos altogether… LOL. It is quite funny how they never show their employees’ face.
And the descriptions… Ohhhhh… They are just the best, sounding soooo corporate-ish… “Brazil a longstanding dream” (to loot?)… “Together with employees setting goals for Brazil and the world”:
– What do we want?
– To rule the world!
– When are we doing it?
– Before sleep time!
It’s Pinky and the Brain all over again.
hello, Skype is free only when the other person also has Skype and you’re using WiFi. If you don’t have WiFi you pay depending on the contract you have with your provider, but you do pay! A paid VOIP product can call landlines, overseas and mobile phones. You can’t do that with Skype. There is a paid Skype version that has those features but do not cover all countries.
Just my 2 cents on free Skype vs paid Voip…
Whatever the reason is, it must have come from Mr. Labriola himself.
Usually TF’s website is all written in Portuguese and then (poorly) translated into English, with lots and lots of weird expressions due to some lack of review/laziness. Until very recently, even the old contract was available in Portuguese only.
But this time the text is in English even if you change the language to Portuguese, which makes us think it was some sort of “do it now before people use it against us again” or “since SEC is in the US, f*** the rest”.
Indeed, they changed it all! 🙂 Now they mention Wanzeler, but I am unable to find Wanzeler’s photograph. Maybe they added his photo, but quickly removed, so that I couldn’t get there in time to see it?
So, Chang if I understand you correctly, what you’re alluding to is that the majority all that investor money is pretty much TelexGone by now?
I’m not surprised.
Hey Mauricio… That photograph is in their home page, next to the blurb that sends you to the new “About the founders” section. What losers. Cheers to you!
Where is FAITH SLOAN? Why I don´t see her pimping Jesus´s good name to sell telexfree anymore. I guess now she is to busy pimping out Lucrozan Global…..Talk about wolf in sheeps clothing….shame
In 2012 a great friend and business associate in Brazil Mr. Carlos Costa approached the US team with a revolutionary marketing concept. Mr. Costa is considered in many circles an expert in viral global marketing. TelexFREE was created.
“revolutionary marketing concept” ???? (Ponzie scheme)
“an expert in viral global marketing”??? (spam the internet)
“Telex was created”…(and then there was light..lol)
Just goes to show with the right spin on it, anything can be turned from crap into ice cream.
@jack-y
So basically anyone with a smartphone then.
Of course you do, all VOIP apps need the internet.
They cover pretty much anywhere you need to call (TelexFree doesn’t cover “all” countries either”), and it’s a hell of a lot cheaper than TelexFree’s app.
That’s why, according to TelexFree’s own affiliate’s it’s “impossible to sell”.
Thankyou, come again.
If you look at the Merril “staff” photos, you’ll see it’s the same group of people in each photo.
They just used whoever was in the office that day and took a couple of smartphone photos.
Not sure what the point of it all is really (that stuff gets done in the office?).
After the Boston fiasco, maybe they should include a photo of TelexFree corporate hiding under their desks…
Actually Wanzeler has his failing disk on guarde thing and Costa has a history of involvement in scams in Brazil (or am I thinking of someone else?). Anyway, they attached a Ponzi scheme to Wanzeler’s existing business interests, pulled Merril out of a hat and that’s pretty much it.
I think they might be getting their PR guys to look at their website.
Skype @ $13.99 a month:
TelexFree VOIP @ $49.90 a month:
Lololol. 3.5x the cost for ~20 less countries.
TOTAL VALUE!
Hehehe actually, it’s “Disk a Vontade”. Indeed, Costa had his own scams before TelexFree. The two how grew the most were “TimeClick” and “Amigos da Prontotel”. There are some videos featuring Costa presenting both.
For TimeClick, listen to his voice on his own YouTube channel with two videos, at http://www.youtube.com/user/carloszll/videos
For Amigos da Prontotel, check the videos at this channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/grupoprontotel/videos
It seems these scams had no involvement of Wanzeler. At the same time, Wanzeler had his own scam in Brazil, “Disk a Vontade”, the embryo of TelexFree. Wanzeler knew Merrill from somewhere and they registered a company in USA, which remained almost untouched.
Then, at some point in time, Costa approached Wanzeler and joined Disk a Vontade. It SEEMS he joined as a promoter first. But there is evidence he also had a greater position in the company. Have fun browsing hundreds of photos showing Wanzeler and Costa together at old Disk a Vontade headquarter: https://picasaweb.google.com/carlosribeiroVOIP
Then, they jointly decided to give up their scams and start a brand new one, TelexFree.
Nope. You are 100% correct. But until Telexfree, he has been playing supporting roles in those already flopped scams.
If you will, just Google images for “carlos costa disk a vontade”.
Not to mention that Skype also has a free service, computer-to-computer. As long as the person you want to talk to has Skype loaded on their computer, you have free VOIP, with or without video. I use it to talk to an old friend in England.
Of course if you want to call telephone numbers, then you have to pay, but it’s hard to justify paying $50 a month for something that only reaches part of the world when you have a free service which covers virtually all of the world, or at least anywhere there’s an internet connection.
Pay special attention to this photo of Costa promoting Disk a Vontade, in an event, together with Wanzeler:
https://picasaweb.google.com/carlosribeiroVOIP/EventoDiskAVontadeBeloHorizonte#5071516547279758818
It’s a before-and-after photo. Particularly, it’s zoomed to the “before”. The “after” is to the right, not displayed.
What is it? Costa showing himself as a poor… truck driver? I don’t know, but it seems he is on a truck, check the large rearview mirror.
Time for a summary of the Telexfree case today from behindmlm.com ?
– and maybe time for some people to donate a fiver into behindmlm.com to thank them for giving them the info that stopped them getting into the scam and stopped them losing thousands of dollars.
– This is all my guess : Can we say that Telexfree has effectively closed itself, by forcing investors into the new unprofitable scheme and most of the last 3 months of “investors” will never get back their money ?
– That in some time like a week or more the SEC will complete the paperwork and formerly close TF, but by then much of the profits will have been transferred to secret companies. Yes the SEC may well recover some money, but it will probably deduct all it’s own costs before any money will be available to pay back investors.
– If I had made a profit, I would feel a moral obligation to pay to my friends/relatives that I had introduced into TF, all the money that they have lost.
– I think there is a complication that some people maybe tempted into “throwing good money after bad” as they try to invest more to try to free up withdrawl of profit money..but that’s still risky.
What is the current position now? This “opportunity” is getting viral in Kenya.
@oz
Here is “Dossier” of Telexfree and the theory of whom is behind the whole thing. It is in Portuguese. I don’t know if you can read it. http://anti-telexfree.blogspot.com
…do you really believe that? Lack of morality is what got most of them to participate in this scam in the first place!
Morality in our days is a dying virtue unfortunatly!
According to them Sann Rodrigues is the master mind behind the whole thing!!
I am not going to lie! I treat this company as pink stock!!! I know it is extremely risky and I am willing to take that risk! If you think there is a quick way to get rich, you should loose everything you have in this. Risk what you can and not what you cannot!! I never sold these companies to my friends and family members! The ones I brought in , I told them it was very risky and that it was not going to last long! I follow faith Sloan as a stock advice(as Jim craimer). My next adventure is Lucrazon Global. Why? Because faith Sloan is going in and I know she is the Jim Craimer in these companies. Jim craimer and Sloan are two scumbags in my book, so I try to follow them as much as I can.
last phase of the coup?
CR = CREDIT TELEXFREE
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/10003367_283690788464904_1307196585_n.jpg
@farao…
They told us this was going to happened. It is credit now. If this is your old account, you can used to pay VoIP. They can not be selling these program as investment, you have to be a buyer. It is whole new trick, but you can still make a lot of money in the new system
A lot of people don’t understand the system, but the new plan is great! People too dumb to understand how it works with the old contract.
If they don’t move from investment to sales the SEC will close them (if it is not too late for that).
Did you not understand what Carlos costa was saying??? Go watch it again and read between the lines.
Can you even USE TelexFree in Kenya? Didn’t Rwanda and Uganda already warned against it?
There is no guarantee that SEC won’t close them even after they f***ed all the participants either.
Well, it certain fits the pieces. I didn’t have all the Brazilian filings, but I came to the same conclusion a while back: Sann Rodriguez tried to reboot his Universo FoneClub, except he’s going to hide behind someone else.
@Eddyo
Greed the root of all evils bro.. looks like youd DGAF to put your money into these companies which are financed by terrorist groups and drug cartels (money laudering) and greedy naive people..
You just got on the same boat.. hopefully you’ll get a valuable advice from faith sloane when raising your kids too..
let your money make you happy!! peace!!
@chang……
I understand! If you bet everything in this company as I know some people that invested $100,000.00, you are asking for trouble and you deserve to lose all.
I tried to sell to people and most people thought I was crazy. The ones I brought in right after me, they were stock market players and they did not care to risk some money.
Regular folks don’t come into this stuff. They know is a scam or a short term thing.
I need it spelled out. What was the secret message.
@nosabenoresponde
You are talking about greed as naive little child who doesn’t know what is greed. You live iin the greediest part of the world. The home of the free and the brave. The mother load of all greed!!! Welcome to America my friend!!
If you live in Manhattan holy f**c, you are in the heart!!
The point is, ladies and gentlemen, that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right. Greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.
Greed, in all of its forms – greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge – has marked the upward surge of mankind, and greed – you mark my words – will not only save Teldar Paper but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. Thank you.
You say greed is good…aslong as you’re on the winning side, right?
I wonder if you would look at “greed” that positively if you were on the losing side…
…be ashame of yourself, you sorry excuse for a human….
@Bruno knock, knock that is the sound of their friends and relatives coming to ask for their money.
(It’s not about me, it is about the integrity of the profiting investors ..they have obligation to their friends)
I find it funny that faith Sloan posts endless messages on her twitter with zero replies retweets etc..
Come on Bruno!!! We are greedy by nature??!! Do you play stock?!! Do you want a better life?
I told everybody that came in about the risk and by the way the company still paying those who invested their money in( not talking about about after the 4 months). The guy that I brought in told me that he took money out from ewallet yesterday. So, please don’t say that the company is not paying those who did not get their money back yet.
I am crying, because they changed the rules now and I have to go around to still get paid. You are right!
In 2008. I cried like a little when I lost $20,000.00 in the stock market. It was a big lost for me.? Some people lost a lot of money and even people who did not played the game lost money.
Tell me who is greedy now!!?
Do you normally use movies as “inspirational sources”? 🙂
If I rememeber it correctly, Gordon Gekko ended up in prison by using that philosophy.
You are as dumb as they come!!! That was not the point of the movie! Use your brain!!
You guys can talk as much as you want about faith Sloan, because she is not the greedy one! The greedy ones are the ones who fall for it and invest everything they have for a fool’s gold!!
The diference between putting money in the stock market and putting money in those so called “games” you (and many other people I know) refer to is that in the stock market they don’t promise you ANYTHING, while the one’s behind those scams promise you astronomic revenues GARANTEED!
It’s much like this man that sells lotary tickets in my home town…if you buy him the lotary ticket you’ll get the top prize! He guarantees it! …but only till the moment before the draw! Lol
Oh, and buy the way, you can get a better life without cheating on other people, you know how?
GET A REAL JOB!
How naive you are!!!! Stock market don’t promise you anything. Ahaha!!!! “Get a job”!! I have a job. I told you I don’t bet all my money in one horse!!! And you come with gambling!! Oh boy!!! Lottery is worse of them all!!! Talking about a greedy gov….. Huh!!
But eddyo you are the fool who only has fools gold… Some of us have real careers with real investments that support an actual product.
Faith Sloan is as dirty as any terrorist and deserves to be sitting next to Madoff. You get rich off others getting poor… Fooling people whom you feel are vulnerable and trying to take advantage of them ruining their lives or breaking up families and friendships.
You are worse than a drug cartel at least the end user gets what they wanted in a drug deal. Stocks can’t compare because its not just a game… Stocks actually help businesses prosper.
@Eddyo
Gordon Gekko?
USA is suffering from moral and financial decay exactly because of the thought process expressed in that monologue.
Oh Kevin……where were you when the stock market almost went down. Please, kevin!! Tell me where!!
Faith Sloan is a scam bag no doubt about it. There are no victims in this game!! Only greed!!
Gordon Geeko could not have said better!!! We make the Gordon Gekko if this life and not the other way around!
I have probably only watched the trailer, or maybe the trailer to the sequel “Money Never Sleeps”.
I have generally seen her as “relatively rational”, i.e. I can use SOME of her updates and add it to my own knowledge.
I “striked” the last part of that sentence, since it only was about some DEGREES of foolishness. People already KNOW that some people can be greater fools than others.
The “Greater Fool Theory” is about exactly that. You will need to BECOME one yourself to be able to make a profit from it = you will need to invest in one of the opportunities that have some potential to attract “Great Fools”. Then you can make a profit when all the other “Great Fools” are lining up in queue to part with their money.
Sometimes that idea will work (there’s plenty of great fools out there). Sometimes it won’t work, you were one of the greatest fools to join that opportunity.
The problem here isn’t about whether you win or lose, but about WHY did someone put your name into that list in the first place? Someone MUST have recognized some “characteristics” before they invited you to join the first opportunity. 🙂
Remember Kevin??! 6789 down jones!!!! Remember!!! Please refresh my memory
@m_norway
Yes, I am a fool too!! I am always trying get the fools gold!! I lost $20,000.00 in the stock market. I lost another 20,000.00 trying to open a business and now I am breaking even on this company. You cannot invest everything you have in anything!!
I know so many people that are scared because they invested everything in this and it is the poorest of the all. Some people sold their houses and told their bosses to go f**ck themselves to reach this greedy dream!!!!
I don’t see nothing wrong about gambling, atleast no one promises you that you’ll win for sure! It’s all about luck! Atleast the winner didn’t steal from the other players like these scams! Everyone gets that, even you!
And so what if a percentage of the legal gambling reverts back to society through healthcare, education, basic needs? Isn’t that living in society? Maybe not for some people…
It’s unscrupulous scam bags like you in this World that stops it from being a better place!
What’s interesting is that people like you end up being victims of your own venom…
My venom!!! I am at the bottom
I need it spelled out. What was the point of the movie?
Is that …..fu**c** quote you!!
Oh boy. I only invest in the up jones.
We blame the market…..Sloan….Gekko…Wall Street, telex…. But we are the greedy mother****.
No matter how many scammers we bring down there is always another one out there….. Doing the same trick!!!
We blame Wall Street for 2008, but who really need more than one house or buy a house that we cannot afford. A whole nation went bankrupt because of their greed….
…and on top of that you say greed is a good thing…you’re really lost aren’t you?
As you do!!?
Is in our nature man
That was actually true. I have linked to Faith Sloan’s website when it has been about something relevant. I was able to find one example from one month ago (placed under “Theory”):
Most successful investors (of different types) will try to find “investments” where they PERSONALLY can influence on the results.
* skilled recruiters will look for recruitment based opportunities.
* skilled sales people will look for something they personally can be able to sell to others.
* Carl Icahn was only interested in a “controlling position” in Herbalife, where he personally could reduce some of the risks (by “handcuffing” some of the most risky leaders).
* Bill Ackman have tried directly to influence the outcome of his bet against Herbalife, probably for more than 2 years.
* Faith Sloan is trying to get the right type of position in SOME programs, while avoiding others. She’s probably picking programs she believe will be easy to “sell” to others.
That idea of “personally influence the results” may fail miserably if it’s combined with bad ideas, but you will find that idea repeated over and over again among the most successful investors.
She was in telex for about 8 months, before jumping out. Now she is going into this one. I am going too and went she leaves, so am I.
Reeeeally?
Then next time you lose lots of money or someone stabs you in your gut don’t cry like a little baby, just remember “its human nature” and be happy about!
Wow man …. I have no words!!
I used her as a random example, because she had already been mentioned in this thread rather than because I had analysed each and every detail in her strategy. 🙂
She actually joined Lucrazon in December or January. You can try to google “Faith Sloan Lucrazon” to find that she was already promoting it in early January. She prepared to leave the sinking TelexFree ship long before the ship started to sink.
You’re joining as one of the “late joiners”, after the initial “Great Fools” joined 2 or 3 months ago? They have probably been waiting for you to join, as the only way they can make a profit themselves.
Try a different idea = make sure you’re able to invite THEM into a program you have handpicked yourself, rather than YOU following THEM into a program THEY have handpicked? 🙂
“Put them on YOUR list, rather than they putting your name into THEIR lists”. That idea should normally be more profitable than the idea you currently have.
Great Tip on how to best profit from the misfortune of others.
What’s next? You and Dawn Wright-Olivares do a short series of instructional videos together?
A “great tip” should normally include HOW to do it, e.g. a plan that actually can work. You failed to identify that factor, i.e. you didn’t see it was missing.
I didn’t like the idea of following a leader from one failed opportunity into another (that potentially will fail sooner than expected).
What a display of a bunch of selfish and self serving morons with grandiose narcissistic in outbursting self admiration. How clever.
Those kinds of blabbering and gibberish just takes away our time and clutter this blog that was otherwise informative to a lot of people.
Oz can you filter all this no sense? Those in need admiration can use Facebook, the finest place for people with narcissistic disorder.
I have to concur. Eddyo the stock market and your movies don’t justify or excuse TelexFree being a Ponzi scheme.
Stay on topic please.
What are you blathering on about now.
That comment was about the “great tip”. I was unable to identify HOW you had been able to interpret it like that?
There are some missing logical arguments there. The quoted part should normally not lead to any “great tip” conclusion. It should rather lead to the opposite conclusion, e.g. “that information is too vague and general to be useful to anyone”.
@ Oz: I just wanted to say that in previous comments (free) Skype was compared to (paid) Voip, and that’s not correct!
I stumbled upon this article, I don’t now what the specifics, quality is to Telexfree voip. I’m a voip user and there many providers that give you qwantity, but not quality.
At this moment I use a Voip paying $ 12,- a month and gives me 1000 minutes. Quality is fair. I’ve used paid Skype but that’s not that good. I’ve looked upon the internet and found the telexfree voip product cost $ 49,95, that’s a large monthly amount. They give you 5000 minutes (not sure about that) what is a lot.
Problem is who needs 5000 minutes? Only businessman who don’t have WiFi calling all day overseas, that’s a very minor group.
I only don’t see anybody defending or using the telexfree voip here, guess i have to find some users on the internet.
My guess is with the 4G network Voip will work better, my contract is still 3G.
Isn’t that because TelexFree requires a subscription just to use it (at any level?).
Skype is free.
(I’m not 100% sure on TelexFree’s clone service as information on it is scarce seeing as nobody uses it).
Probably easier to hunt for unicorns…
I’m starting to think Labriola just dials some random Brazilian number and leaves a call connected all month to rack up the minutes for their statistics.
Just got word that you can now make Voice calls with Facebook messenger. FREE of course.
@ Oz and K. Chang: I know Skype is FREE, i use it at home and when i have WiFi. I can’t call with Skype, or Viber or FB messenger to landlines or mobile phonenumbers. I can do that with a paid Voip product (or paid Skype which I’ve tried and is no good).
I’m just looking for good paid Voip product when i was looking for it on the internet….still you can’t compare free Skype with a paid Voip (which can call landline numbers local and abroad and mobile phonenumbers, guys you can’t do that with free Skype and that’s really a big difference.
This stands apart from the fact that probably the Telefree product isn’t good, overpriced or whatever, it still can’t be compared to a free Skype, Viber FB Messenger or other).
Video montage that shows that shows that Carlos Costa is one hell of a liar. August 21 speech in the Chamber of Deputies that people are investors and a recent video he speaks otherwise.
June 21 speech that everyone is insured by the insurer Mapfre and June 24 speaks otherwise. He speaks, but does not assume the talking. The culprits are always the advisers. It is proven in the video.
Video montagem que mostra que mostra que Carlos Costa é um baita de mentiroso. 21 de agosto fala na camara do deputados que as pessoas são investidores e em um video recente ele fala o contrario.
Dia 21 de junho fala que todos estão segurados pela seguradora Mapfre e dia 24 de junho fala o contrário. Ele fala, mas não assume o que fala. Os culpados são sempre os divulgadores. Está provado no video.
I’ve used Skype to call mobiles and landlines across three continents. Never had a problem. I might suggest it’s your internet, PC and/or cell phone.
Sure it can, if I want to make internet calls I’ve still got to pay $49.90 a month with TelexFree (as I understand it).
Skype is free.
Paid VOIP is no better, with Skype costing some $35 less a month.
@ Eddyo
You’re clearly a poser trying to feed it’s own trolling ego using this topic. You lost your credibility at the point you state “greed is good”. Unless in your native language (if you’re not english based) greed means something else, like charity?
“Greed is the inordinate desire to possess wealth (…) with the intention to keep it for one’s self.”
Anyone claiming this^ to be a good thing, i automatically assume you’re one of the following:
1. Extremely Unintelligent/Ignorante
2. Extremely Immature
3. Both
You’re trying to argue a battle that you’ve already lost in your very first post, you’re a little like Monty Pythons Dark Knight, that after having his legs and arms cut off yeals: “come back here, i’ll bit yet legs off” … it’s a bit what you’re trying to do here.
The rest of the nonsense you’ve written after your first posts, i wouldn’t even reply, even tho these nice fellas are trying to make a point to reach anyone that might read your posts and be mislead by them.
That being said, dear Eddy-o, i suggest you grab your next bash of 20k and invest them in the next big thing. This forum isn’t for you and honestly, i don’t think anyone really cares what you do with your bashes of 20k’s or you in particular.
Carry on spending your money (real or not, i have my doubts). We’ll just carry one making case studies out of herds of people like you. Cheers!
A few years ago while traveling abroad I subscribed to skypes 1 year plan for $60. Cant recall number of countries included.
That was unlimited callling…
Really, though, arguing over TelexFree’s VOIP service vs. Skype is moot, because it’s obvious that TelexFree just came up with their VOIP in order to make their Ponzi scheme look legitimate.
It’s just like so many other shady MLM schemes, where the product is only secondary to recruitment and getting new investor money into the schemes. Nobody cared about the product until the plan was changed and now they have to try to sell it.
If you can find five TelexFree VOIP users online (actual customers, not TF affiliates) then I’ll give you a cookie.
I wonder why would a company like TelexFree make their product so expensive in regards to others, IF their ultimately goal is to hide it behind their true business, Ponzi scheme.
Wouldn’t it be more credible and easy for them if they just advertise the product with a better price range that those product they are trying to complete with (like Skype) ? I mean, that would make them look more legitimate.
Government would have a blast reading the convos from telexfree VoIP if people actually used it
Can anyone help out on how to transfer money from one account to another under the old telexfree scheme. I have tried all that i could but things didnot workout. Thanks
The amount in the account will need to be minimum $300.
The method is indirectly mentioned in “Back office training” video from Scott Miller. He identifies WHERE in the back office you can pay bills or transfer funds between internal accounts, e.g. between your own accounts or transfer funds to other people in your team.
Disabled link (copy and paste):
youtube.com/user/TelexFreeTrainer/videos?sort=dd&shelf_id=1&view=0
You may potentially find more updated or more detailed sources. I’m simply identifying one of the sources I found in July / August 2013, the one I was able to remember.
He’s mentioning THAT he has transferred funds from an account to another, and WHERE that function can be found, but only vaguely HOW to do it.
Some details for how to pay invoices are explained in a couple of the other videos, e.g. in “How to generate a new customer account”, “How to generate marketing flyer”, “Signup process”. I don’t remember which ones exactly, I watched them more than 6 months ago.