TelexFree mislead affiliates on Brazil injunction
Following the granting of an injunction to Brazilian authorities which resulted in the effective shutdown of TelexFree yesterday, the company scrambled to put together a conference call assuring affiliate investors in the US that legal action in Brazil would not affect them.
Convincing affiliates in the US, appreciated financially as the “wet dream” market of the Ponzi world once penetrated, that it was business as normal was of particular importance to TelexFree since, as one affiliate shared on social media, ‘a large group from the U.S. just joined recently…‘
It’s no secret that TelexFree have stepped up their affiliate investor recruitment activity in the US over the past 12 months or so, eager to stake out their piece of the US Ponzi market.
Appearing on the TelexFree “everything is ok, we weren’t shutdown” call was the company’s International marketing Director, Steve Labriola, President Carlos Wanzeler and unofficial President James Merril.
The call opened with a brief introduction from Labriola, who simply introduced Wanzeler. Much of what Wanzeler (right) said on the call was indecipherable, however a few key interesting statements were made.
Referred to as “the facts”, Wanzeler placed much emphasis on the fact that the Acre court that granted the injunction ‘is a state court, not a federal court’ [3:24]. What that has to do with anything is unclear, given the suspension of business operations placed on TelexFree are nationally binding.
Additionally, despite the Acre Court also freezing
all movable property, immovable property and values in bank accounts and investments owned by the first required and its managing partners, Carlos Costa and Roberto Carlos Nathaniel Wanzeler, extending the decision as to these properties past, also to their spouses, and the lock values in bank accounts and investments maintained by Ympactus Comercial Ltda., Carlos Costa and Roberto Carlos Nathaniel Wanzeler through the issuance of letter to the Central Bank of Brazil,
Wanzeler again asserted at [4:03] that the Acre injunction ‘is not gunna affect US or any other country‘.
With TelexFree’s funds frozen in Brazil, how the company plans to pay affiliates overseas remains unclear. Especially when the company is under court order prohibiting it from making ‘payments to partners and publishers‘ and paying ‘commissions, bonuses and any benefits derived from the network Telexfree (from sales of accounts VOIP Telexfree 99, of new registrations, ad postings, training binary direct or indirect, of royalties from Team Builder)’, under penalty of $100,000 USD for each payment or commission paid out.
Worryingly, Wanzeler finishes up by urging US TelexFree affiliates to bury their heads in the sand and refuse to believe any of the news coming out of Brazil:
[5:05] TelexFree is not shut down in Brazil, there’s a lot of news there, it’s liar (sic). Everything you hear from news, it’s not true.
Our company, everything is ok.
Unofficial President James Merril (right) appears on the call next, stating that ‘what Carlos said is very, very true’ [5:50]. Merril also reassured US affiliate investors that the Acre injunction
[6:02] does not affect the US market, we’re still growing like crazy thanks to your efforts.
Seeking to diminish the effects of a Brazilian court effectively shutting down TelexFree’s business operations, Merril insists that
[6:09] Inquiries like this are very common in network marketing. I believe here in Brazil there’s still some issues with Herbalife. Amway’s had its challenges here and in the US.
To the best of my knowledge, neither Amway or Herbalife have ever had their business operations shutdown via way of a court ordered injunction. Furthermore, in Brazil or elsewhere, neither are injunctions like the one granted against TelexFree “common in network marketing”.
Satisfied that Wanzeler and himself had satisfied the concerns of their US based affiliate investors, Merril goes onto urge US affiliates to continue to recruit new investors:
[6:30] Again, nothing will affect the US. Please continue your continued dedication, this company will persevere.
Steve Labriola closes out the call by reassuring those listening that ‘these things happen to network marketing companies over and over again’.
TelexFree have since filed an appeal against the Acre injunction, however a decision on that has yet to be passed.
According to media reports a decision is expected soon,
The judge Samoel Evangelista, president of the 2nd Civil Chamber of the Court of Acre, received on the morning of Friday (21) an appeal from Attorney Telexfree, Horst Fouchs, trying to overturn the decision of the judge of the 2nd Civil Court of Rio White, Thais Queiroz de Oliveira Borges Abou Khalil.
The magistrate’s decision, published on Tuesday (18) and valid throughout Brazil and abroad, prevents Telexfree to make payments to its promoters, as well as registering new participants.
Already being predicted is the rejection of the appeal, on the grounds that
In civil cases like this, the rapporteurs hardly go against the judge’s determination, since it is an objective analysis of the evidence presented in the action.
Basically injunctions like the one passed against TelexFree are not given out like candy. Prosecutors need to come before a judge and lay out a case against the party they are seeking an injunction against based on evidence. If a judge is convinced by the evidence presented, the injunction is granted – which is exactly what has happened here.
Meanwhile Judge Thais Borges has clarified why the injunction against TelexFree was passed, stating
“The main proceedings will be designed to determine whether or not this is a pyramid financial.
If the thesis that TelexFree is a financial pyramid is confirmed, the consequence will be to use company resources to compensate those investors who lost money.
If the process is completed and TelexFree is determined not to be a financial pyramid, ie, that the activity of Telexfree is lawful, then the company will be allowed to resume normal activities,” said the judge.
According to the magistrate, there is evidence that the activities of Telexfree can be configured on a financial pyramid, and so the injunction is intended to prevent the network grow.
“The idea is, first, do not allow the network to grow, since there is the possibility that it consists of a network unlawful.
Nor let there be the distribution of resources so that these resources are allocated in the future to repair any damage that a publisher may have had,” she said.
As I understand it the Public Prosecutor’s Office has 30 days from the granting of the injunction to file a criminal case against TelexFree. They’ve already convinced a judge (based on presented evidence) enough dodgy is going on to get an injunction against TelexFree, so the conclusion of any criminal proceedings are likely to be a formality.
The good news is that as per the Judge’s comments above, once legally determined to be a Ponzi scheme in court a claims process for affiliate investors is likely be initiated.
The writing is on the wall guys and barring the unlikely granting of their injunction appeal, TelexFree is done.
Or you could just swallow what TelexFree management are pushing and continue to pretend none of this is happening…
Great Reporting!
I am finding myself on your site daily. Thoroughly impressed with the frequency of your reports and the thoroughness of your reporting, it is clear you do the kind of research that should also be done by these affiliates or so called investors
It’s going to be very interesting if the appeal is granted in their favor.
Thanks for posting the Video, I have never heard these guys and lets’ just say I’ll keep it at “I wasn’t impressed for a damage control call.” They just want to keep the money coming to prepare for their defense, both business and personal.
The opening credits on the video gave me a smile…
A Faith Sloan Video Production, the intro should have said:
“Truth or Truth, Faith Sloan, Leader, TelexFREE Global Power PONZI”
I’ve seen her promote multiple ponzis and pyramids over the years.
Denial runs deep in sheeple of Ponziland…
There’s, however, a sense of turmoil in Brazil right now, the same sort of economic stress that had existed in Colombia, Albania, and India that allowed various financial scams to flourish respectively.
The masses don’t see the economy improving for THEM, and government seem to have done little to change the situation. This made the masses easy to exploit by scammers that promise riches, and when discovered, pronounce “don’t trust the authorities”.
A week ago, a bus fare increase in Sao Paulo sparked a nationwide protest movement, and the president and security minister is hinting at asking the army to run patrols if the protests turn really violent.
The distrust of government will undermine the efforts of law enforcement to crack down on Ponzi schemes. Which in itself is interesting as usually Brazilian government enjoys good ratings (or at least decent ratings).
Well this is an interesting twist, MT Agora are reporting that the injunction was succesfully appealed, although they don’t provide any further information as to why.
mtagora.com.br/noticia/9175/variedades/liminar-contra-telexfree-caiu.html
The article does read a bit like a TelexFree written press release so I’m treating this as unconfirmed until some more reports are out either confirming or denying the success of the appeal.
If it was granted it’ll be interesting to find out why!
mtagora.com.br is a COPY (fake version) of agoramt.com.br, and extremely slow loading, while the real one is loading more normally.
Agora MT is a Mato Grosso “newspaper”. It had SOME news, but it wasn’t a TYPICAL newspaper from my POV.
MT Agora didn’t load fully within 2 minutes, so I decided to close the window. It was so slow loading that it can’t have been designed for a normal market.
I’m pretty sure the “news story” is a fake TelexFree advertising. It didn’t contain any of the details you normally can expect if people have a court document in front of them. It contained the details already known to the public, but was rather vague on all other details.
Here’s the WHOIS for both domains:
The normal loading AGORA MT:
domain: agoramt.com.br
owner: AGORA COMUNICACOES LTDA (1662002)
The slow loading MT AGORA:
domain: mtagora.com.br
owner: VIP Comunicações (1358060)
Pretty soon they are going to run out of ponzies to promote.
What a life, spend most of your time generating money only to have it seized. Sounds like a dream job to me!
Either that, or they’re getting hammed by TelexFree sheeple for copy of “the good news”.
What’s interesting is the subtitle of mtagora is “A Notícia Levada a Sério”, or in English, “News Taken Seriously”, which is itself, borrowed from another Brazilian website called noticiaspoliciais.com.br (i.e. Police news: national crime blotter)
I agree with M.N… mtagora seem to be a black-SEO article cloner, not a real news website
The MTAgora news of the injunction appeal is BS, probably written by an overzealous TelexFree affiliate.
If you visit the TelexFree website and click on the Brazilian flag (top right) the court-ordered pop-up is now present:
Translation:
I’d guess the appeal will be decided upon on Monday. Anybody claiming it’s been sucessfully appealed until then is full of it.
It probably was. But it has probably been done by someone in a type of “leadership level”. Faith Sloan had the story posted on her website, and I doubt she will accept anything from an “overzealous TelexFree affiliate” if it hasn’t been accepted by the right level of leadership.
Ordinary “overzealous TelexFree affiliates” will normally NOT put out “press releases”. They will put out information they have received from above (in the organization). The press release was probably from someone really close to the top, in Brazil rather than in the US.
I have seen more annoying pop ups. The Brazilian court can probably be interested in some suggestions. 🙂
Maybe they were pre-empting a decision coming out on Friday evening/Saturday. Seems to have backfired.
Either a top judas goat, or part of inner circle. Sheeple don’t create press releases like that.
Thank God!!!!,
I was lucky enough to realise and suspect that this was a scam after afew days of joining. I backed off thouroughly.
Now the show is over, those who have been fighting to convince the world that this is a business can give their comments.
Just another reason of why 95% in this industry fail!
Força TelexFREE !!
Together we will win!
going through all the comments, please can you explain how people over here in Nigeria and Africa are getting paid? cos i have seen evidence of payments made to friends here in Nigeria
Since the injunction?
If so then TelexFree are risking fines of $100,000 USD per payment made to an affiliate. I suspect as with most Ponzis they keep funds offshore so whilst funds in Brazil are frozen that’s likely where the money is coming from.
They seem to be pre-emptively placing an awful lot of hope in the injunction being appealed.
In the midst of TelexFree affiliates/management running around uploading fake press releases announcing the graning of the injunction appeal, here’s the actual current situation:
Meanwhile on the TelexFree propaganda machine side of things?
This is an official TelexFree executive management spokesperson mind, and the best he can come up with on how TelexFree is not a Ponzi scheme is faith and praying to God?
RIP TelexFree. Actually scratch that, no Ponzi deserves peace.
http://economia.ig.com.br/2013-06-23/telexfree-continua-suspensa-pela-justica.html
Anyone who promotes ponzies and call themselves “peeps of god”, go to church on sundays and whatever else a god follower does, is really full of it!
Plain and simple. Ripping people off for financial gain is a crime. You so called christian ponzie pushers are really criminals.
They are simply using the money coming in from new investors to pay the old ones. It’s a Ponzi scheme, and it’s about to be shut down in Brazil, its home country.
Here’s a video explaining it (link disabled):
youtube.com/watch?v=se9bvR8BLAE
waiting
It hasn’t been completely shut down yet.
But if you’re question is about HOW they can pay people in Nigeria and Africa then I seriously don’t know. In most other countries people are normally paid through debit cards, wire transfer, checks, cash and other normal payment methods.
TelexFree has an INJUNCTION against it in Brazil, but the injunction has been appealed. A decision is expected Monday 24.06.2013 (local Brazil time).
IF THE INJUNCTION IS UPHELD:
The injunction is about assets freeze = no payments OUT to the investors, but it can still register virtual payments to the back office. It’s also about no recruitment of new investors.
The injunction will first affect affiliates in Brazil, relatively immediately. We know very little about how it will affect investors in other countries, but normally the payment processors will be frozen in an assets freeze.
The website will work as normal for a while, but showing a pop up message informing visitors about the court order in Brazil. That pop up message is currently only active if you switch to Portuguese. The back office will also be modified so people can’t sign up new affiliates.
TelexFree is doomed
Telexfree has not taken down its “pop up” denying access to Brazilian participants. If the injunction were reversed, Brazilian participants would have access.
Participants like Faith Sloan know that Telex is a ponzi and are desperately trying to convince their teams and the public that this will not effect the US and other markets. It would be one thing if there was a grey area and they did not know better, but these people are ponzi experts and Telex fits the description of a classic ponzi.
If you visit Faith Sloans site you can see that she takes claim to be a ponzi expert, complete with compounding calculator and giving the “go signal” and the “no endorsement” wave to many a ponzi scheme.
Here is a quote from faithsloan dot com attempting to pacify soon to be losers of their investment by downplaying the State of Acre:
Great background research Faith, In the middle of the jungle or not, the tiny state of Acre brought TelexPonzi to a halt.
Many Telex participants are already moving people to a back up ponzi, China Based WCM777.
Can we get a WCM777 Review here on this site?
Would love to see a breakdown of this ponzi’s so called compensation plan
Anything the so called woman of christian faith, sloan only cares about greed and would not join anything unless she was at the top somewhere.
OZ,
once again, Great, great reporting!
I have been linking your articles on the main blog against the Telexfree, the blog by Mr. Nassif:
http://www.advivo.com.br/blog/luisnassif/liminar-que-proibe-telexfree-nao-caiu#comment-1419626
Wish you all the best!
The logic behind the appeal goes something like this:
* “The fundamental law is that anyone affected by a case has legal rights, the right to appear on demand”.
* The action is filed ONLY against the company itself and 4 of its organizers.
* But the action clearly will affect thousands of other people, when the company has to stop payments.
* So the action is illegal, because people affected haven’t been given rights as parties
The logic is similar to the one used by ZeekRewards participants after the shutdown. People FEEL they have been harmed by “the evil gub’mint” or the court, and are looking for logics to justify their own feelings.
ARGUMENT #1: “FUNDAMENTAL LAW” THEORY?
The first argument is about a “Fundamental Law” that people simply KNOW exists, where people directly or indirectly affected by a judgment have the right to defend their own personal interests.
“Fundamental Law” is simply something people like to BELIEVE IN, something that belongs to a “belief system” rather than to reality. The reality depends upon quite different principles.
Thanks for the support Frontier.
Meanwhile, affiliates in an interior city organized a motorcade, honking their cars and playing loud music at midnight, to protest against the court:
Do courts work differently in Brazil? Why would a judge making a decision based on a company’s business model and compensation plan structure give a crap about hoons being a nuisance late at night?
Or was it supposed to be symbolic, as in the traffic in the video comes to a complete standstill – just like TelexFree.
Like seriously!
The things people say in this scamming industry. These folks are going to see fireworks not protest. Or again it could be they are celebrating another scam business getting shut down?
Ympactus/Telex could reasonably be expected to ask for a temporary stay of the injunction rather than attempting to have it vacated outright. Obtaining that would be a huge win for Ympactus, but it seems very unlikely to happen.
“Every country has the government it deserves.”
No, they’re not. The protest on Saturday was planned days before TelexFree’ers decided to join it. TelexFree’ers just joined an existing demonstration against taxes or something. 🙂
And according to CNN, the protests around in Brazil’s cities originated in Sao Paulo as a protest against the Government’s money spending, spending money on FIFA rather than on schools, hospitals, infrastructure.
It has later evolved into “Just protest against ANYTHING you don’t like”.
Seriously doubt that, when I mentioned that tons of cities have protests that started in Sao Paolo about that bus fare hike, but since have evolved into protest about anything you don’t like about the government.
https://behindmlm.com/companies/telexfree/telexfree-mislead-affiliates-on-brazil-injunction/#comment-161348
THEY didn’t organize it. A 24 year old student named Cybele
Almeida did. TelexFree’ers were simply demonstrating against (or demonstrating for?) PEC 37. 🙂
BTW, “honking their cars and playing loud music at midnight” sounds like a completely normal situation in a city late Saturday night.
THe insurance which the director claimed to have hired with insurance company MAPFRE is fake!:
The insurance company will sue them!
http://economia.ig.com.br/2013-06-24/contrato-de-seguro-com-a-telexfree-e-falso-afirma-mapfre.html
….a new low.
the lyrics of the song that’s played says about Telexfree affiliates earning lots of money and “envy people” and “competitors” trying to stop the company.
But yes, in the last days there’re people in demonstrations all accross Brazil asking for the most different things, and even some cases of fight among people in the same demonstration defeding opposite causes
And they’ll sue the insurance company right back claiming breach of contract, and get a couple more months extended in the Ponzi’s lifecycle. (or they may not, not if the government get to them first)
Guys again telexfree is not going anywhere why cant you understand. this is what is going to happen in the coming days a higher judge will over rule the judge in acre that brought up the injunction against telexfree.
Guys 11 states fought against us and telexfree was find to be in good faith by all eleven. Acre is just number 12 and we will be victorious as well. Continue your negatives cause we need it to make us stronger cheers.
That was probably a lttle too “deep” for most people to understand?
All I saw was “Saturday as usual in Rio Branco”. 🙂
And one of the cars actually played “Paloma Blanca” with Harry Belafonte. 🙂
No, Telex only submitted an application. There had been no underwriting approval or acceptance by the insurance company. It was kind of a “slick” move by the Telexboys though…submit an application with a reputable company, and let the rumor mill do the rest.
The appeal against the injunction was denied http://economia.ig.com.br/2013-06-24/telexfree-e-derrotada-e-continua-impedida-de-fazer-pagamentos-e-novos-cadastros.html
Telexfree keeps stopped.
Injunction appeal denied and caught out lying about that insurance partnership, oh my.
Will have a formal article up later, have to head out now.
Be interesting to see what all those TelexFree bozo’s will have to say after this that were in denial and still promoting this crap.
I have the same news from g1.globo.com, the local news provider in Acre:
Translated news via JusBrasil.com
“5 days clarification period”
“5 days period for a full appeal”
That normally means “next Monday, July 1st” before the order will have effect.
A Telexfree affiliate posted a video teaching how to post the Telexfree ads even under the injunction.
The facebook page is going nuts!!!
Whether people are able to bypass it or not isn’t any problem. Members trying to cheat will only be a problem for the company itself.
It’s the company ITSELF that has to block registrations (or find methods to cheat safely). Any new member they accept is a potential $50,000 fine (100,000 Reals). It has 5 days to fix problems like that, but it has to reject any new member being signed up.
The video actually shows how problematic it is to run MLM / NWM or pyramid schemes when you’re facing trouble. The blocking of new members is there to protect the company itself from fines, but also to prevent it from blaming the members, e.g. “We tried to prevent the members from signing up anyone, but they managed to bypass our blocking (so we simply HAD TO accept money from the new ones)”.
Carlos made a quick appearance on the facebook page with the thousands of comments getting displayed, all he had to say was “calm down gentlemen”.
Can you name 3 or 4 of the 11 states? If you can name more than 4 please do it.
According to the information from Acre, MP / AC was the first state to file a case in court.
Other states may have published warnings. If you consider that to be some type of “fight” then they’re facing a different type of fight now. There’s a difference between “public warning” and “injunction”.
The first one is a message on a website, the second one will normally lead to a trial and potentially to a full shutdown. The first one can be “out weighted” by releasing positive news. The second one will need solid facts (normal MLM strategy won’t work). It will normally require a different type of leadership to handle the situation properly.
Your faith is to be commended, but this is a business, not a church. Your devotion is… uncalled for?
I know, it’s, at best, a “quote”, if that at all. But you knwo the Telexheads will claim that they were cheated by the insurance company, something about guaranteed acceptance, blah blah blah.
Then it’ll be a conspiracy by the Brazilian government to kill TelexFree because they didn’t pay enough bribes or some more bull**** like that. 😀
It wasn’t even a “quote”
In Mapres’ own words:
http://translate.google.com.au/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Feconomia.ig.com.br%2F2013-06-24%2Fcontrato-de-seguro-com-a-telexfree-e-falso-afirma-mapfre.html
I’ve read Telexfree affiliates writing comments like that since the first investigations began, three or four months ago
Until yesterday, Telexfree was registered in Brazil as a microenterprise. Now they are trying to change to corporation: facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=276530382488071&set=a.151664011641376.32507.136480546493056
Do TelexFree management perhaps believe the judiciary will permit them to continue their Ponzi scheme if they register as a Brazilian corporation?
Merely another “rally the masses” tactic, touting “if they let us register as a corporation we have to be legal” faulty logic.
I wasn’t too far off the mark.
Lol? You run a blatant Ponzi scheme and then opt for greater transparency which requires detailed filing with Brazil’s SEC equivalent?
What are they hoping, that Wanzeler, Costa and Merril will have their account unblocked and transfer all the money offshore before they have to file anything with the SEC?
http://economia.ig.com.br/2013-07-19/telexfree-tenta-mudanca-que-permitiria-divulgador-se-tornar-socio.html
They should have set that up before hand. Perhaps the USA might give them a few tips on this.
The idea may be to convert backroom balances into stockholder equity in a revamped company. Its a long shot, but its understandable they would try.
For the sake of discussion, let’s assume this is true. I’d venture it raises the question about whether TelexFree all along has been using the VOIP service as a front to mask its real business: an undisclosed (or under-disclosed) vessel to make a wildly speculative pre-World Cup, pre-Olympic killing in land/real estate development in Brazil — not for the TelexFree rank-and-file members, but for TelexFree management.
Under this scenario, the MLM Stepfordians get tapped as the reliable cross-border cash cow and create the flash money TelexFree uses to try to make itself a player in Brazilian real estate speculation. TelexFree, in classic HYIP fashion, pushes its liabilities into a corner as though they don’t really exist. The regulators begin to ask serious questions — and TelexFree retroactively tries to make it all go away by suggesting the Ponzi liabilities it has been ignoring/downplaying can be converted into stockholder equity.
On YouTube, for example, there are videos in which TelexFree affiliates are encouraging prospects to send money to TelexFree because “Brazil is going through a magical moment. The great events are proof of this. And with them, construction is multiplying. And the modernization of the infrastructure is taking giant leaps. This is the right time to invest in the promising Brazilian market.”
This leads to questions such as these: Is TelexFree a VOIP company or is it conducting an unregistered real-estate offering? Why is a purported VOIP company keen on planting the seed it is in the land-development business just prior to the World Cup and Olympics?
Any number of the affiliates are spotlighting the purported partnership with Best Western, all with the apparent blessing of TelexFree, which makes sure website visitors see the Best Western logo.
So, VOIP company TelexFree appears somehow to have turned at least part of its MLM sales force into a force to drive dollars to fund pre-World Cup, pre-Olympic land development.
The trouble with this “plan” is that it can be viewed as an offering fraud from the get-go — one that was made even worse by classic HYIP claims that money that flowed into the scheme from the MLM world somehow was insured. If it goes the way of other offering frauds, millions and millions of Ponzi-deepening dollars will have gone missing and the company will engage in Enron-like accounting tricks to make the liabilities disappear by fiat.
Or perhaps try to arrange an equity swap after the fact.
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The real estate play is an interesting speculation.
I suppose telling some poor fellow that his back office balance has been coverted to stock in the Telexfree Land Speculators Corporation might be better in some people’s eye’s than telling him outright that his money has been lost but I can not envision this being permitted. The company would still have no capital base. As far as the Telexfree management making side bets with affilitate’s money. That’s certainly possible.
Correction: the corporation would have a capital base if funds can be marshalled from various bank accounts etc.
now they are planning a motorcade to block the access to Brasília Airport next Tuesday morning.
Misguided
Looks like everything’s workin out well now in brazil. i’m from italy, just got a telexfree pack and as now looks like there are no problems and everybody is gettin payed…the only weird thing is that nobody ever seen the telexfree voip software and telexfree assistance is done with SKYPE! mmm