Has Rippln done a runner?
For a company that has incessantly tooted its own horn since announcing itself to the world back in April, things have gotten awfully quiet over at Rippln.
The last Rippln Facebook post was made on the 21st of November, just shy of two weeks ago.
The last official Rippln blog post was made on November 13th, three weeks ago.
And the last Rippln YouTube video was uploaded on November 5th, four weeks ago.
Like I said, this is a company that has run on a platform of over-exposure, so the switch over to silence now certainly has us confused.
I don’t profess the following is written with any degree of forensic accuracy, however my basic understanding of Rippln’s progress as an MLM company thus far is follows:
- announce an obvious recruitment-driven pyramid scheme business model
- retract model and tell people they can earn by sharing apps, make big promises about the Rippln Communicator app
- do nothing but miss deadline after deadline for months
- obtain a consignment of bluetooth watches and offer a commission on the sale of said watches
- launch one or two apps on the iOS platform only, promise Android but never deliver
- rehash a personal development course one of your executive staff authored and charge $500 or so for it
- partner up with a third-party company and offer commissions on the download of a handful of apps, charge affiliates hundreds of dollars to participate
- drown in a sea of complaints when most of your affiliate base realise said third-party company offers no apps in their region
And that brings us to today. There’s still no Rippln Communicator app, despite CEO Brian Underwood announcing it was ‘slated for submission to Apple on October 15th‘, and most of Rippln affiliates are stuck paying monthly fees with nothing to show for it.
Naturally Rippln’s silence hasn’t gone unnoticed by their affiliates, with many taking to Facebook to express confusion and frustration at the company:
10 days and no updates?? What’s the deal ppl?? Anyone out there lol??
We wait news, updates and communicator, why is nothing happend?
Where´s Rutherford, Stacey, Nino, Mike Beal, Vanessa, Larry Lane (well, at least He told us where he went running off to) and the rest? Even the RippleMania group has tumbleweeds rolling around…
Perhaps the most damning insight from a Rippln affiliate yet comes from Derek Gardner, published just 5 hours ago:
I officially quit Rippln with a Ripple of 39,718 people in 230 countries. I actually checked out a while back, but, removing my credit card made it official. It’s crystal clear all the so called “leaders” quit a long time ago, you know who they are…
Now the actual company has gone into hiding and didn’t even make a post wishing the folks in the USA happy holidays, pathetic.
My commission check wouldn’t even cover my monthly fee, and what were we paying for again? App Share cost money and isn’t included in the membership, so just curious…I own an Android and never even had the opportunity to download that stupid photoguessaripoff app, no communicator, nothing really…
We got $300 watches to buy, $300 personal development courses, and $500 game of life offers, huh? Really? It’s beyond a joke and I’m ashamed I bought the lies…Shame on you, Rippln! Expect many reviews!
I know you haven’t posted in 2 weeks, but I’m sure this post will be removed in no time…Stop misleading and hurting people! Peace out losers…
Rippln’s darling affiliate Michael Rutherford still has Rippln marketing plastered all over his Facebook profile,
however no mention of the company has been made in past weeks. Rutherford’s latest update (made 3 hours ago) details his surprise at finding Marshmellow Fluff for sale at Cost Plus World Market.
Somewhat ironically, 53 days ago Rippln’s Jonathan Budd appeared on Youtube professing that ‘the next sixty days are going to be big’. Additionally, the video description caption reads:
The next 30 days will be an exciting & powerful time in Rippln. Hear about the release of our very first hard good product (that’s super cool), the launch of Guessaroo Android, the Rippln Communication app, plus so much more!
In the video, Budd refers to what Rippln announce is their “deliverance”:
The purpose of the next sixty days is a sort of term we’ve called “deliverance”. And we’ve been working our buts off, everybody on the Rippln team, all the co-founders, all the engineers, all the operational staff, the support team and everybody around the world that works with us has been going crazy for this next 60 day period called deliverance.
Because over the next 60 days what we’re going to do, and what we’ve already started to do, is validate the business model, the vision that we casted six months ago when we launched Rippln in April 12th 2013 in Dallas, Texas.
(Budd refers to a list of things to be completed in front of him on a table)
As we complete these updates right here, as we actually deliver what’s on this page, um, we will have done some phenomenal things. And we will have really, approved and validated a model, um, that’s never been done before.
Putting aside the already broken 30 day promise, 60 days puts us at next Wednesday the 11th. Will Rippln “deliver” over the next week or is this the end of the line?
Stay tuned…
Rumor has it they’re under investigation and there’s a gag order prohibiting mention of anything rippln related.
I don’t buy that. If that were the case I don’t think whatever law enforcement branch is investigating would let someone delete posts from the official fb page.
There was evidence of credit card fraud, some of which was archived in the realscam thread.
I think the founders saw the writing on the wall and decided to get out of Dodge before the cops got them. There’s precedent for scams like Rippln to get abandoned when things go south, after all.
I want real closure, as I’m sure the affiliates do as well. Let’s hope we get to find out what happened.
No more apology videos or lame motivational quotes will save them now! Class action lawsuit sounds like a good next step.
I don’t believe in rumors.
For all you know rumors are spread by the heads to “explain” their lack of communication.
Can anyone really trust a company who can’t communicate properly to put out a communication app? Haha.
If they couldn’t even put out a “Happy Thanksgiving” facebook post, then something’s definitely wrong. I think they’re now transitioning to the next phase where they take everyone’s money and run!
The game has always been ON! What we didn’t know, until now, is that we were the ones getting played!
Yes, Rippln is OVER!
The “public co-founders” are pretty quiet about this game changing business they created on their own Facebook pages. Why would the owners and the men with keys to the castle, not mention this incredible business on their own social networks?
Co-Founder Jonathan Budd
https://www.facebook.com/jonathanbudd
Co-Founder Brian Underwood
https://www.facebook.com/BrianUndy
Do these guys belong prison? Yes!
There is a reason the other “co-founders” are not public. They have been nailed by the SEC!
I’m going after these guys, so they have lesser ability in the future to rip people off, period!
Sorry to hear the news but myself and the good folks at BehindMLM reported early on reliable details about the risk involved with a start up company. The momentum and early misrepresentation grew too fast for early players… Thanks again for sharing your update!
See the pics on their Facebook page before they get removed!
Looks like the owners are a on a gun shopping spree with our membership money.
A better question is what’s their hidden partner going to do? 😉
If the project has failed completely, that’s actually a good thing, i.e. people won’t get fooled by false hopes longer than necessary.
A positive “It failed!” can actually be better than vague ideas that can go on and on forever and drain people for money and “other resources”.
Experienced people (who have failed before) should normally have plans for when and why they should abandon their own plans, e.g. investors should have plans for loss stops even if they’re long term into a project.
That type of logic is normally about “If the conditions have changed, we must change too”. I have seen that type of logic used in investor forums, where a few investors managed to reduce losses dramatically where the average investor refused to accept losses.
The typical selfdev ideas like “Winners never quits, quitters never wins” have some serious flaws, i.e. they shouldn’t be interpreted literally. Most winners are actually very skilled in changing their own ideas and plans, including abandoning some flawed ideas.
Rippln’s silence is peculiar but I don’t think it’s safe to conclude that it was just another turkey that didn’t live past Thanksgiving.
From a cash flow perspective the ongoing and increasing loss of paying affiliates would lower but not eliminate income. Folks were already billed for December and this months pay run is still a week away. It costs almost nothing to frog step Michael Rutherford onto a conference call to regurgitate the same sales pitch he’s been spewing for months.
I do believe that “App Share” represents unfunded liabilities to the bottom line but 95+% of the comp plan was a pyramid scheme, not a ponzi so making payroll shouldn’t in and of it’s self be a problem. There ~should~ be money left on the table, why would they walk away from it?
Merchant account issues? Preliminary investigations? What ever is happening didn’t occur overnight, Budd and Underwood went radio silent after October 31st. ~Something~ is very wrong with Rippln and perhaps for the first time it’s something they don’t think they can lie their way out of.
On the other hand this could be a cockamamie “lack of buzz” campaign being used to launch Rippln 2.0. This company has been setting new standards for stupidity and incompetence, nearly anything is possible when you’re only pretending.
We can all now see, that the a Emperor is not wearing any clothes!
Time to start the complaints to the Attorney General of Texas and FTC. Enough of this crap already.
Dunno, I think this was the plan the whole time.
The clue is the recent (now removed) allegations of credit cards being charged after people cancelled their Rippln accounts, as well as the early player charge.
While it’s true a scheme can be sustained, there are diminishing returns in doing so, particularly with the realization hitting the core players, the ones which sustained the program, that all is not right. The FB page can’t be used as a recruiting tool anymore, so they need a network of people.
So, better to cash out and get before the molasses slow arm of the law finds them.
I think the plan is to abandon Rippln, and start working on Rippln 2.0 with a new set of suckers.
Hmmmm?
A big handsome bald guy predicted this over 2 months ago – and it couldn’t happen to a better bunch of crooks!
I hope they ALL get cases against them for this ridiculous scam they passed off as an opportunity!
RIP’n – I like that MUCH better! 😉
Interesting, I clicked the link to Johnathan Budd’s page and what do I see but a connection to Dani Johnson.
Dani is a Christian wealth guru, who became a multimillionaire starting with her huge success in MLM. She now does seminars, produces various publications, amongst other things, including a specific workshop for MLM, where she teaches specifically how to recruit.
She has a massive and influential following, and because of that very reason, I believe many were drawn into the Zeek fiasco. So, if these guys need a fresh orchard of “low hanging fruit”, Dani followers are ripe for the picking.
Since the day this launched here is what I shared.
(Ozedit: video 404 as of March 2020)
It is pure Ripple…LOL
This is the intensive degree of sheep mentalities that have been created from all the sunshine being blown up their asses!
https://twitter.com/zanshing1/status/408306986380324864
RI-DOGGONE-DICULOUS!!!
He is a member of the Facebook Dani Johnson community, and he is Facebook friends with lots of Dani followers.
From JB’s wall:
I don’t think Dani Johnson would touch this with a 10-foot pole! It would ruin her and totally screw her followers!
The ONLY people cheering on the possibility of Rippln 2.0 are – their mindless sheep, the crooks running Rippln, and Joel McHale at The Soup!
They’re baaaack!
https://www.facebook.com/Rippln/posts/557220014358722
Not a word for why, just more hype.
Guess they’re overloaded on Turkey… 😉
I lost 2 months of my life to promote this bullshit and I’ve also lost money.
Jonathan budd wanted to sell me a $ 500 course to become the richest man in the universe half a day, should compensate the money and the time lost to talk with people, that would suck from jail.
I thought this was kinda ironic, y’know.. given Rippln’s abundantly awesome “communication” skills and all. Perhaps Rippln need to spend a little less time focusing on others communicating and… communicate.
I wonder what Jonathan Budd was on about, $500,000 investment in Rippln or something else? In other news, Rippln have gone back to censoring their Facebook page again. Pretty much everything quoted in this article (and more) that was published to it over the last few weeks has been deleted.
The best part about the FB censorship spree is that you can see that they deleted comments. The number of comments shows, but the comments don’t.
Chat…Chat…Chat?!?
More like, BLAH…BLAH…BLAH!
Rippln’s promises are right up there with, “The check’s in the mail.” and “Just the tip!”!
I really hope some of the people saying they were going to contact law enforcement/DAs, etc. actually do.
When I talked to the FTC back in June they told me they couldn’t do jack without several complaints, and they couldn’t take my complaint because I’d not suffered any financial loss.
I never joined Rippln because I’m a mobile dev and knew they were full of shit from the first 20 seconds of the first video. (which a friend sent me)
These guys really, really need to go to jail for a while, or at least be injuncted from future scammy endeavors for a while, like Terry LaCore was. (Yeah, because that stopped him from registering Rippln and being a silent partner.)
If you talk for twenty minutes but don’t say anything, did you really have a call?
They did have a call tonight, as predicted:
And the Chat App is due out real soon.
Per our discussion, Glim…
One interesting point is that they’re claiming they invented PPI (pay per install) and that their partnership is with the app developers.
We know that’s not true.
They’re using AppLift.com which is one of many companies specializing in PPI. You can prove this to yourself by pasting any of the App Share URLs into wheregoes.com.
You will see the redirects going to Applift.com.
This is how little respect Rippln HQ has for you guys. They assume you’re going to be too dumb to check the URLs for yourselves.
Another round of sunshine and Vision Casting coming up – BEND OVER SHEEP!
Well technically they have until next Wednesday, so Rippln hasn’t completely failed yet.
At this stage they’re probably well aware another “OMG we’re sorry!” video isn’t going to cut it if they miss the self-imposed deadline.
Fun Fact: on Oct. 22nd, Michael Rutherford claimed the Communicator app was submitted to Apple for release.
(Oh yeah, and he also says App Share is going live on the 28th with Candy Crush.)
https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback/?n=H1OtZ/jeGpa
If it was indeed submitted to Apple, months later the only conclusion to be drawn is that the Communcator App was rejected?
Funny thing about that particular lie: Nothing whatsoever would stop them from releasing the Android version.
There’s no approval process for Android.
So, if Apple held them up, the smart thing to do would be to release the Android version while they worked with Apple.
Of course, I don’t believe one word those guys say…
Funny thing is, after the hype, the quiet period, a couple of weeks ago it erupted again with someone I knew in a former company calling me out of the blue about something. Continued with several people on forums and FB starting to talk about it again….
Pieced it together and it was Rippln, and it was just launching and the communicator app was being released.
Then… all quiet on the front again.
I’m pretty sure the official Chat App story is that yea, it was approved by Apple in late October. However there is still so much push back from all the failed Photo Guessaroo for Android release date promises that they will not release the Apple version of the Chat App until they can also launch the Android version at the same time.
Now that doesn’t really make any sense, after all it was Rippln who told us that the best way to launch an Android app was to launch it for Apple first which will have Android users quivering in anticipation for their own version. Well that worked so well for the picture guessing game app,…Oh, right.
Rippln is pretending that they had to create their app not once, but twice. The first time it worked great and was awesome but it could never handle the millions and millions of simultaneous users this company hallucinates having. So they had to start from scratch and build an app robust enough that it can accommodate the needs of their greatly diminished current user base.
But here’s something Rippln can only hide for as long as they can hide it, once the app goes public it goes public. What if they didn’t spend over a million bucks building it, or if they did what if their money was wasted? What if the app isn’t in anyway special?
Until the app comes out it can in theory be the bestist app ever. Once it gets published, we can all see it for ourselves. Could this be why they’re afraid to launch the darned thing?
Here’s another thing Rippln can’t hide: How dismal their social media stats are.
146 PTAT on the official facebook page? Pathetic.
Most of the G+/Twitter/Instagram posts on the subject are bots.
There were less than 20 non-bots talking about Rippln in the aggregate stats yesterday.
How could anyone think they have enough engaged eyeballs to do much of anything?
Troy Dooly gives his pals a handjob once again.They aren’t crooks, they just were at home for the holidays!
Oh, Please… Anyone who thinks or thought this crap deal is/was going to be any more than just that, has got a screw loose. Anyone with any sense knew it in thee first 5 minutes.
Those with little sense knew and jumped on board anyway to try to be “first one in” and ride the hype machine because thats the only form of “business” they have ever been taught or exposed too. Those with NO SENSE still talk about it as if it has any merit, hope or credibility at all.
The only credibility (good or bad) this thing ever had or ever will have is from the people talking about it as if its a real company. A year or so later and they still havnt produced one sale??? what a freakin joke. Why bother even talking about it? There is NOTHING to talk about..
A real business is built on sales and sales volume not what they are “going to do”… ha ha did you ever watch Shark Tank and see the reaction when the person pitching a product has no sales?? It aint pretty… What do you think the reaction would be if they came in with no sales and a product that doesnt even exist??
My GOD,, people are seriously RETARDED when it comes to MLM and Network marketing business.. Not that ripplin is either one of those. What complete moron would back a company or invest time/money in it based on an idea alone and a stupid one at that?
Its called SELLING A DREAM and the Douschebags that perpetuate this should all be shipped off to an island somewhere so they can stop polluting the gene pool.
Troy never seen a scam he did not like. Even if he believes in his scam pals, what business that fails to deliver at critical moment just closes for holidays?
If Microsoft or Google were late to launch critical app that their business model depended on, nobody would stop working on holidays. Especially their top managers . Only in Troy Dooley world it is acceptable.
Has Rippln delivered something on time for once?
I can’t wait to see the impact of finally being able to use a cell phone to chat with other people is going to make on the world.
Onwards and upwards Rippln!
More on that here:
https://plus.google.com/109752959453719926997/posts/h7AcDfTP3q9
Spoiler: there’s no way in hell that app cost $750K and several months to make.
Disclaimer: I was only able to look at the Android version.
This company is a joke, period. I walked away from a Ripple of nearly 40K members and didn’t flinch. This morning I actually received a refund for EVERY CENT I paid those frauds. Every penny!
I was a founding member since February 2013.
I “was” business partners and friends with the many of the so called leaders. It’s funny, how the guy who actually makes the SUPER HYPE & HOT AIR videos for the company, actually went into hiding like 6 months ago…He told me “Just move on!” when I called this business into question.
The typical long con…You string it out long enough, most move on, quit, don’t care, and/or forget what the absolute facts of what they were originally sold on…Every video that “so called guru” made for these jokers, is a total lie, PERIOD! Just a dream, more like a fantasy.
With this company, we don’t “sell anymore”, right? Many of you were not on every company call for the past year. PAINFUL!!!
After 15 minutes of making the speakers KINGS OF THE GODS, we heard the usual pitch “We now just play games, share them with our friends, and we all make money? We get “rewarded” for our social influence in the marketplace?
You share an app with Joe in the morning, Joe downloads it, likes it on Facebook, etc. and by the end of the day, the entire town Joe lives in is playing and sharing this hot new app, product, service, whatever, and YOU get PAID whenever anybody in your Ripple upgrades, buys coins, makes in app purchases, etc! Right?????
What the tuck happened to that? You made the video Rippln frauds.
I knew it was bullshit. I learned too late, poor me…
You come out with photoguesaroo? LAME! Only came out on Iphone, in English, & had a zillion bugs. That was the end. Oh, and it never tracked. They manually signed up your referrals when they download the app. Nothing has ever tracked. That’s why it took many days for the “tracking” to propagate. Manual. I called it, photoguessaripoff!
Never delivered on Android, total bust, just like Rippln and all the founders behind it.
Appshare (app craze, whatever) sums up how disgusting these frauds really are…Don’t get me started on this product….yuk! ok, maybe a little…
So, it cost $95 to join Rippln and $30 per month ongoing? Hmmmmm, but, the appshare is not included? So, what are the members getting for their payment? Sounds like credit card fraud to me!
Who in their right mind, would pay $95 to “power up” (sucker up), invest $30 per month for “rewards” (super vague comp plan only visible AFTER fans power up) and you win the right to give these thieves an additional $199 to have the right to share a couple apps that are OLD, already gone viral, and this is only available in a select few countries & usually not both major devices at once?
Wait, it gets more insane. OK. You share an app after you pay these scum bags $95 to join + plus $30 monthly + $199 for the “app catalogue” more like mini brochure. You invest all that money and you the avg download is around $2 commission right? OK, that’s $2 ONE TIME!!!
Rippln crooks take 40% off the top! That leaves 60% to the Rippln PLAYERS (not fans, you dont get to play), So out of every $1 you get 60 cents, right? Close.
If you referred the app PERSONALLY to one of your rare friends that gives a shit to download it, you make 50 cents of that dollar. ONE TIME! Now, if someone in your Ripple is doing this same thing and pays all those ludicrous fees, you earn 10 cents – ONE TIME!! wow, feeling the love yet?
It gets better…that 10 cents per $1 paid into the Ripple is paid through 10 levels, so if you are like 99% of the players, you qualify to maybe earn off your first 1-2 levels. That’s 1-2 cents, or 10 cents as an all star (or level 5 pro player). So, your Ripple is not making you SHIT! Your Ripple means nothing with App Share/ Craze.
I have (had) a Ripple of nearly 40K people. All my personal players quit months ago and the few I had left on my deeper levels from Brasil quit too. I wouldnt qualify to earn my penny off them anyway. Not 1 person upgraded for the App Share joke. Not 1 out 40k people? Yikes…
Do you remember the videos these guys made? You share an app, you get paid a commission for all those transactions made within the app, if you they are in your Ripple? Also, you share an app, they are automatically on your first Ripple, (level for mlmers) and you never sold them anything, wow! You just invited them to play a cool game!
None of any of that is real. The chat app makes you ZERO! App share is a total joke, and the photoguessaripoff app that doesn’t track (corporate did that manually) and was only for iphone in english was a debacle…
All the leaders and founders went into hiding. The guys who made the founding Facebook team site “team tsunami” or whatever it was called, all went into hiding, and that was the page where the owner of Rippln made all his sales pitches (kinda off the record, convenient).
Their Facebook page didn’t even announce the app as of this post. Their famous chat app, isn’t even worth a post on their Facebook page? It only took them 2 years and nearly a million dollars, right? More like $50 with a freelancer…
Sad indeed. I got ALL MY MONEY BACK and I recommend you do the same. I welcome a lawsuit from these frauds, because I will the invite the media and all my fellow victims (now suckers).
I worked this business with EVERYTHING I had. I have been an affiliate marketing #1 promoter for years, live job free working online, and yes, I was a victim of Rippln. They are good at the mystique… They are nothing but con man. Look them up! You will get chills…
If I have the privilege of going to court with this company, I know I will have an ARMY of supporters. I do know this, the founders will never do business again online without ALL OF US letting all the new pending victims the truth. They are DONE!
My Rippln Chat review: Not what you sold me. Who cares. Boring.
P.S. Sorry for the long post readers. I didn’t proof read it, spell check it, etc. I care that little about Rippln now. Just saw this review page and decided to type. Excuse my shit grammar and take this one gold nugget away from enduring my rant – RUN FROM THESE GUYS!!!!
Also, this is ONLY my opinion via my experiences…If you want to learn what I do in REAL LIFE working from home, feel free to contact me. You will see why it’s pretty easy to laugh at these whack jobs…
This is the REAL LIFE Rippln slogan. “Over the next 30-60 days” Every 30-60 days, we heard the same thing…Over the next 3-60 days they get monthly fees.
Eventually, they used OUR MONEY to build shitty apps to make THEMSELVES money. They aren’t for us…Look them and say hi. They are living good on the beach, wearing designer clothes, showing off their fancy automatic weapons, etc. It’s nothing short of VOMIT!
Yeah, Troy Dooley is just an “Inner Circle/Inside Job” man at this point. He lost ALL credibility with this one…He leverages his public opinion and uses it for CASH.
He has a ton of influence and power of the searches for truth, people within Rippln know this…Troy Dooley, is now irrelevant con man himself. my opinion only of course…
Here is your Rippln leader! Co-founder Jonathan Budd,
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151943662528799&set=t.552003720&type=1&theater
Who wants to follow that?
The good thing is, he has nobody but himself to blame.
The “next-big-thing” MLM junkies will doubtless continue to worship the ground on which he walks, but one would think Mr Dooly may have just about destroyed any credibility with anyone outside of the sycophants.
I think the ultimate question posed by Rippln is “can you attract enough sycophants to have a business model based on those sycophants behaving as you wish them to?”
The best part is he briefly edited that post to say “a toxic gold & silver investment” instead of “a very toxic investment in my life”
Way to bitch out, Jonathan. At least have the stones to name names and maybe do some good to make up for your nonstop lying.
It’s not like they’ll sue you, discovery would bury everyone.
So, all the pain caused, all the misery, all the false hopes, all the lies, all the deception, all the reputations stolen, all the real cash invested from hard invested from hard working families, all the die hard believers, all comes down to Jonathan Budd making a freaking blog post about it, and in his words
If this guy isn’t admitting to the end of Rippln, I’m scared to think what could be worse, so I’m assuming, the co-founder of the biggest bust in the history in Internet Marketing, is announcing his resignation online….
My family lives minutes from his house on the shores, so a live debate and discussion is easy. We can raise money for charity, Jonathan! Live debate, you and me! name the time/date/location and I will be there.
I saw the gold and silver addition the other day that wasn’t there when I first saw it. I see it’s been edited again to omit “gold and silver”.
Can only wonder what he’s talking about.
Scares me even more! Founder of Rippln either sucks so bad he lost half a million in gold/silver, of he is quitting Rippln (#1 scam online)
Do you want to follow a rich kid that lost half a million dollars in gold/silver? I doubt it. It sounds like, he is cutting his ties with the #1 loss in America, Rippln!
he wants out, waaaaaaa! Someone clean his diapers.
It may be this fake venture in Panama? It was certainly aimed at the same “get-rich-fast” crowd.
http://www.patrickpretty.com/2013/11/24/telexfree-affiliate-pitches-appear-to-have-been-scraped-to-drive-traffic-to-purported-gold-and-silver-venture-in-panama-spam-link-leads-to-site-that-showcases-first-zeek-red-carpet-event-and/
Rippln owners gave the founders 100 invites when the rest only had 5. They hand picked the leaders. Their best friends. Look at their facebook pages…
I was shutting down for my slumber, but, it’s hard to believe, this guy, is the guy? The guy to make your Rippln dreams come true? Look into eyes, try calling him, ask if anyone is home…
Rippln Founder, Jonathan Budd (your hero)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151943662528799&set=t.552003720&type=1&theater
Until he says something more concrete, it’s speculation.
But as long as we’re speculating…
I think he’s really talking about how butthurt he is that Joel McHale mocked him on E. That Martian watch video took him 137 takes to get right!
I think we can lay off Budd. It detracts from the discussion about Rippln.
I’ll pass. I’m generally NOT looking for “leaders to follow” or “followers to lead”. I don’t believe ANY of those ideas are very functional as stand alone ideas.
As of 12-9-2013 there’s still no sign of the Rippln Chat app on the official FB page, rippln.com or startmyripple.com.
I really find this odd.
I also find the publish on Android’s app store as “Rippln Inc” vs. the publish to Apple’s store as “LaCore Enterprises, LLC” puzzling.
Dooly says they were at a Vegas event so couldn’t be arsed to post but they managed to post two updates about App(lift) Share.
PTAT scores still in the 200s on the official FB page. Download numbers of Rippln Chat don’t look so good.
What in heck’s going on with this company?
Is it true that Jonathan Budd jumped ship?
That Chat App just sucks big time. Total waste of memory on iPhones and Androids. Better just download WeChat, Tango or Voxer, they are free and they work supper great.
Still talking about, how Facebook built their network to 1.2 billion and why not get paid for sharing game apps. That Rippln was built using the Blue Ocean Strategy but, they don’t have their own platform yet. Still using Facebook to promote.
The best part is Rippln members get angry when Facebook blocks their links. Well, yeah after all you’re using their platform. Rippln thinks they are competition for Facebook. Wake up Rippln, you are irrelevant to Facebook, Instagram and the rest.
There’s no real reason to think J Budd jumped ship, he just hasn’t made any public appearances in about a month and a half. It’s not like Rippln launched any new product or services recently that could have benefited from Budd’s master touch on promo videos.
Besides the LoOoong awaited chat app that is. But as Roberto mentions above, it pretty much sells it’s self.
If he did, that’s probably a wise decision from a professional viewpoint.
Doing business is about selling ideas and matching realities. It’s not about “launching products randomly”.
The initial Rippln idea was about “earn money from the ripple effect”, i.e. earn a commission from other people’s purchases, from something they would have purchased anyway.
The flaw in that idea is, among other flaws, that it attracted income opportunity seekers rather than consumers. They will primarily look for the income the program will generate, they will not be very interested in spending money.
Adding commissionable “pay to play” one time and monthly fees to the initial idea made it become a pyramid scheme. The recruitment based income opportunity became the most significant part of the program.
Trying to correct that problem and make the program become product based radically changed the whole idea. The members would actively need to SELL products and coaching to their downlines. Members would actively need to BUY goods they normally wouldn’t have bought.
The CORE IDEA has changed too much to work. It’s not the same idea anymore, the idea they initially believed could work. The current idea seems to be vague and incomplete. It seems to revolve around “release random products and hope it will work”. It’s neither fish nor fowl, neither an income opportunity solution nor a consumer solution.
Business ideas will need to be COMPLETE, and they will need to reflect realities.
From my viewpoint, the ripple effect doesn’t exist long term among consumers, e.g. I will not start to use Youtube because someone once introduced me to Facebook, or use service B because someone once introduced me to service A from the same company.
The idea itself is heavily flawed. Life itself isn’t organized as uplines and downlines.
The consumer market will actually work better if you don’t pay all those “someones” any repeating rewards for introducing other consumers to something.
I believe Rippln’s organizers should look at the whole idea once again, and test it against realities. “Does the ripple idea really reflect the realities in how a consumer market really works?”. “Does it reflect other types of markets, how they work?”.
In business, you can normally not use conflicting ideas in the same concept. Ideas will need to support each other and be parts of something complete.
Rippln could be used to sell the COMBINATION of some ideas, “a communicator app used to organize and monetize on the ripple effect”. That combination can work short term for a pyramid scheme, but it doesn’t make much sense for consumers.
Well, did you hear the news? Jonathan Budd is now only a consultant of Rippln now. Looks like its all up to Michael Rutherford now. I don’t think he can carry the torch for long.
Bert. I have pretty fresh Rippln information and I haven’t heard anything but rumors so far. Can you source that?
Ripple Labs, a payment startup (a real one, backed by Google Ventures and more), sued Rippln on 12/27/2013 for trademark infringement. 🙂
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/candce/4:2013cv05974/273189
Guess Ripple Labs don’t care for any negative connotations that “Rippln” could cause…
I’m on it. Article out later today.
And we’re live – https://behindmlm.com/companies/rippln/rippln-sued-for-trademark-infringement/
One of the main UK pushers and profiteers of Rippln. This individual then moved into Imarketslive and now DSD.
jamiewaters.eu/blog/ways-to-success/are-you-rippln-yet/
spend some time on the former Rippln founders facebook pages. Great info is available. I say former, because co-founders like Jonathan Budd have verbally quit on their Faceboo pages in October! All these guys are DONE! They all QUIT! Hold them accountable!
Bunch of frauds…..
Brian Underwho? Jonathan Who? Russell Who? Troy Who?
Yeah, they bailed on all of you! They don’t give a shit about you! They laugh at you! They look down on you!
Fight back!!!!
Rippln’s trying to cut a deal in their lawsuit. It’s fairly impossible to suppose they have much in the way of leverage, almost no cash flow, no real prospects for future business growth and any pretense of an investor coming to save them, well that was just more of Brian Underwood’s bullshit.
Oh, and as (yet another) joke at the affiliates expense, the “we wave no rights but only ask for more time to let these chumps bend over far enough” stipulation Ripple Labs submitted was singed by the Judge Before February membership fees came due.
I posted the doc over at RS:
realscam.com/f9/rippln-pyramid-scheme-mlm-fun-game-you-decide-2241/index9.html#post66081