Race Cycler Review: $230 cycler pyramid scheme
There is no information on the Race Cycler website indicating who owns or runs the business.
The Race Cycler website domain was registered on the 24th of June, however the domain registration is set to private.
Research into the company reveals affiliates naming a “Kent Brown” as the owner of Race Cycler in their marketing presentations. Brown (right) can also be heard hosting several Race Cycler affiliate update calls, so this seems to fit.
Brown appears to be no stranger to the MLM “cycler” niche, mentioning he’s been in “some other programs in the past” on a Race Cycler affiliate call ([1:17], July 31st).
One example appears to be TNT Rotator, for which Brown left a glowing testimonial on the company website:
TNT Rotator is a matrix-based opportunity that uses 2×2 and 2×3 matrices. Under the guise of selling “text-ads and software”, affiliates pay $89.97 and are then paid to recruit new affiliates into the scheme.
A Facebook account that appears to be run by Brown shows his progression datewise from TNT to Race Cycler:
Whether Brown is still involved with TNT Rotator is unclear, but his participation in the scheme (and other “programs”) has likely influenced the setting up of Race Cycler.
Read on for a full review of the Race Cycler MLM opportunity.
The Race Cycler Product Line
Race Cycler has no retailable products or services. Affiliates join Race Cycler for $230 and recruit new affiliates into the scheme who do the same.
The Race Cycler Compensation Plan
Like TNT Rotator, the Race Cycler compensation revolves around the filling of two 2×2 reverse matrices.
A 2×2 matrix has seven positions in total, one at the top (the pay position), two below them and then four below those positions:
New affiliate recruits are fed into the bottom of the matrix and once all positions are filled, the top position cycles out and is paid a commission.
In turn, the matrix “splits” into two additional matrices (the two positions previously under the pay position become pay positions in two new matrices), and four new empty positions are added to the bottom of each new matrix.
The process repeats itself again, with the matrix filling once the four empty positions at the third level have been filled.
As mentioned earlier, there are two 2×3 matrices used by Race Cycler.
National Board
The first matrix is called the National Board. All newly recruited affiliates are placed in the bottom of a National Board matrix.
Progression up the matrix is achieved via the cycling out of the top position (required three times for a position in the third level to advance to the pay position).
Once an affiliate holds the pay position, they are then paid per position filled on the third level.
How much is paid out per position filled depends on how many new affiliates the affiliate holding the pay position has recruited:
- no recruits – $10 per position filled ($40 total)
- 1 affiliate recruited – $25 per position filled ($100 total)
- 2 affiliates recruited – $50 per position filled ($200 total)
Once a pay position in a National Board has paid out on all four third level matrix positions, it cycles out and is positioned at the bottom of a Grand National Board matrix.
Grand National Board
The Grand National Board matrix functions in the exact same manner as the National Board matrices, however affiliates can only enter it via cycled positions on National Boards.
Once an affiliate’s positions reaches the top, payment is once again made per third level position filled in the matrix:
- no recruits – $50 per position filled ($200 total)
- 1 affiliate recruited – $100 per position filled ($400 total)
- 2 affiliates recruited – $500 per position filled ($2000 total)
One a pay position is cycled out of a Grand National Board, they are then re-entered into the bottom of an existing National Board (typically following a position of the affiliate who recruited them).
This results in a $230 fee, which is subtracted from the Grand National Board cycling payout.
Joining Race Cycler
Race Cycler affiliate membership (positions in a National Board matrix) cost $230.
Conclusion
I’ve made more money with cash cyclers than I made in sixteen years as a real-estate developer.
-Kent Brown, Race Cycler admin ([4:17], July 29th)
For those unfamiliar with how matrix cyclers work, they enter prelaunch and begin the hype-train. When the doors open, those who get in first receive money from those who joined after them – usually posting ridiculous commission payouts to lure new members in.
Shortly after that, once all the new money has been transferred to those who got in early (the people trying to recruit you now), the scheme collapses.
Think of it as your typical pyramid scheme set to fast forward.
As with all pyramid schemes, the inevitable collapse comes about once the matrices stall (new recruitment stops). Positions from Grand National Board will churn the National Board along through re-entry, but ultimately this only happens when new positions are purchased at the bottom of National Board.
You have to have these new positions being bought or trickling all the way up to the pay position in the Grand National Boards, nobody is going to cycle.
I have read something about “robot positions” being created to counter matrix stalling, but all they will do is speed up the collapse.
Why?
Robot positions (otherwise known as fake positions) don’t inject any new funds into the scheme. Cycling matrices without injecting new funds into the scheme doesn’t exempt a matrix cycler from the basic laws of mathematics, you can’t pay out more than your affiliates are pumping into the scheme.
This stalling effect is why admin Kent Brown mentions he’s been in multiple “programs” on some Race Cycler affiliate calls. All pyramid schemes and matrix cyclers stall, and when they do, one of two things tends to happen:
- you have serial-admins who shut up shop, wait a bit and launch new schemes or
- as is case with Race Cycler, participants in previous schemes realize they need to get in earlier (nobody gets in earlier than the owner of a matrix cycler), to maximize the ripping off of suckers who join after them
That’s the hard truth behind matrix cyclers. And sadly is what’s responsible for laughable Race Cycler affiliate updates like this (sent out less than 24 hrs ago):
We are so close to launch on Race Cycler it’s almost scary! I can’t guarantee you the sun will rise tomorrow, but I can tell you we are ready.
The numbers we are hearing are staggering. Again I can’t promise anything, but we’e (sic) hearing numbers in excess of 200,000 based on “verbal commitments”.
For many of you, this will be the last rodeo. IF you do this right, it can build so fast for you, it is mind boggling.
“Last rodeo”? Right. Just don’t ask what ultimately happened to TNT Rotator then…
Update 28th January 2017 – The SEC has revealed Race Cycler was a $1.32 million dollar Ponzi scheme. Herman Ronnie Young has settled with the SEC and will pay $342,510 in disgorgement.
Kent brown is one of the biggest scumbags this industry has ever produced. Zeek rewards, fhtm, i2g and the list goes on. Victims and carnage at every stop along the way.
Thank you for the article, perhaps some will be saved from entering business with this thief and charlatan.
Kent speaks very large and communicates in the way you provided in your example above in green. That kind of hardsell turns me off.
When I’m listening to spending my money with an expection of earnings, I would rather hear it from someone like Irving, your CPA, not from someone who comes across like a loud used car salesman in a weekend TV commercial.
You also got a few facts incorrect with the pyments of the matrices, and you definitely have a strong bias against cyclers, there’s no doubt about that.
The final payout after each cycle is $2200 less $230 for deduction of admin fee, balance earned of $1970. And I have quite a lot of experience with cyclers myself, I’ve won some, I’ve lost some.
I have no knowledge or proof of anything in regard to Kent’s past, and even though I don’t care for his personality.
It’s essential to note that at the beginning when he conceptualized Race Cycler, he went to numerous reputable, highly successful online marketers to endorse and align themselves with Race Cycler, and they agreed putting their own reputations on the line.
They’ve all contributed endorsements in the conference calls because they strongly believe there will be a lot of money in it for them and their followers. Their reputations are their income, and will protect that for all its worth.
I’m not worried about Kent, the ‘counsel of elders’, LOL will be keeping this program on the up and up, you can believe that. I do believe there are a tremendous amount of people who have committed to this program.
I hadn’t heard the number of 200,000 and have no way to confirm it, but I wouldn’t be surprised because of the extraordinary viral grown of Race Cycler, evidenced alone by the unprecedented numbers of members in the team build I’m in.
There’s no guarantee here any more than a traditional job that won’t have a layoff or close its doors. Because of all these factors, while there is always risk, I feel that people will be able to achieve some nice income well above the $230, even if it falls short of the claims they allude to.
I feel confident enough that I have brought in my permanently disabled sister in law, friends and family who are broke who I have committed to to pay their entry fees which they won’t have to pay back if Race Cycler fails.
While I think it will be fine, everyone’s comfort level is different leading them to the decisions they make.
@robin
They’re pyramid schemes, bias is neither here nor there.
Thanks, the re-entry fee wasn’t mentioned in the compensation plan material. I knew affiliates had to check some box in their backoffice to re-enter, but wasn’t sure if a fee was charged.
I’ve updated the review with this information.
Anybody who participates in cyclers is hardly reputable. These are serial scamsters.
Everybody signs up during free prelaunches. Post launch when you have to cough up the money is another matter entirely.
Hundreds of thousands of people joining a cycler? Please.
Mathematically it’s guaranteed to fail, just like every cycler before it.
The only question is whether you and your family will click sign-up quick enough to rip off a majority who join after you.
The whole thing will fizzle out within a few weeks/months.
Hello Oz,
Thanks for response. Need to add to your comments, that the reputable online networkers are diversified in the opportunities they’ve participated in, such as MLM opportunities.
Please don’t tell me those are schemes too! Criticizing the Avon lady or Mary Kay is just unAmerican!! 🙂
Did you know there’s not a company or organization that exists where online, you can’t find that some has reported it as a scam? For fun, try it! Start with Disneyland, McDonalds, the Boy Scouts, Apple computer.
And yes, we all recognize there will be a percentage of drop offs that won’t follow through and join the opportunity. Always. And please, Oz, settle down. I participate in Matrixes and I’m as reputable as they come.
Ask my mother. I’ve never known a cycler to continue on to infinity and I think everyone realizes that one day, it’s just going to loose momentum and stall. You’re right, it could be a few weeks or months. About whether or not hundreds of thousand of people will join Race Cycler, we’ll just have to see.
The launch is only the beginning. As people are earning money, once their friends and family see the proof, many of them will likely join as well, so there will be waves of people continuing to join, for what period of time, we’ll just have to see.
I recommend for this or any other cycler, if it starts to slow down for a few days, it’s time to assess whether that’s the time to get out.
Isn’t this similar if you invest in stocks?
Once again, if you look at a cycler and see anything other than a short-lived pyramid scheme – you’re hardly reputable. Reputable perhaps in a notorious sense (which even then likely doesn’t extend beyond MLM underbelly circles), but not in the way you’re implying.
Seeing as you haven’t named anyone, how could I?
Feel free to name drop, but it’s utterly pointless without divulging who you are talking about.
Silly marketing derail attempts won’t get you very far here.
If you participate in pyramid schemes you’re a pathetic scammer.
As for reputable, you can clearly see how low the bar is set in MLM underbelly circles.
The word has no meaning.
You know that in no way justifies it as a pyramid scheme, right?
Stocks aren’t illegal recruitment-driven pyramid schemes so no. Furthermore what stocks are or aren’t has no bearing on Race Cycler or similar schemes. If you want to discuss stocks do it elsewhere.
Good luck with that, Mr. Reputable.
“Will just have to see”? That sounds like faith, not reality.
If this is legit then tell me what the product is that you are marketing?
I agree. Something is not adding up.
Kent Brown went from FHTM to Zeek to a few other failed attempts at ponzi deals. He just keeps going backwards. ANYONE who believes in this guy or his programs is an idiot.
@ Robin
Really? How old are you? 12?
How about you get your mother on here so I can ask how she raised such a moron for a child.
That statement proves every point Oz made in his article and comments.
So when it slows down and all the original clowns that joined at the top decide to jump ship?….who’s left holding nothing? But your the type doesn’t care about that.
Your arguements are shallow and guided by ignorance and greed.
Well that could be true. You may have really sucked as a developer and you may be a really good scammer. Not a good arguement for me joining your business.
A lawyer could truthfully say…I have a 100% conviction rate for the past 10 years. ( oh by the way…I only represented two cases in ten years. )
Helloooooo!!! Are there any critical thinkers left in the world?
Scam victims often decide that in order to make back what they lost (when they realized it’s a scam) they have to recruit… just enough to make back their money.
Seems KB here took it to the next level. And not in a good way.
The product is actually pretty good. It’s a lead generator scraper with auto-responder and e-books that look pretty good.
The launch hasn’t happened yet so it’s tough to say how good they are but they do have a product. How long this will last and how much money there is to be made remains a mystery until it’s up ad running.
I’ve read they tried to launch, but then pulled out the “we were hacked” excuse and have delayed it.
Reading between the lines, people were obviously signing up before the admin’s buddies could place themselves.
You can buy them separately for a low fee and never worry about the pyramidal issues. I think AWeber have them cheap.
BTW, that neon racing picture? Used without attribution. Here’s the original wallpaper:
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I’ve seen a few comments that are perplexing. Someone posted a paypal pay link and 7 people used it to sign up, so “corporate” removed the signup link, so they could reconcile the payments.
It is really strange that the owner is talking like he is not corporate. Scraping software and e-books are the products?
How do you know you’re joining when you still have “momentum”? How do you know if the momentum you see is “real” or just faked by the admin through astroturfing? How do you know the admin to be honest and have not made inside deals and/or stuff his puppet positions on the top first?
Face it, you know nothing. You’re trying to “time” a scam (when to get in and out) when people can’t even “time” the stock market, a much more legal and legitimate enterprise with mandated disclosures and hundred years of data for analysis.
Not a good sign. Paypal *hates* get-rich-quick schemes or anything that smells like one and will freeze accounts at drop of a hat, no matter how much money you have in it. The account probably was frozen BY Paypal already.
This basically means this is a one-man shop by someone who thought he can clone and improve upon whatever he had encountered before and is still muddling his way through.
Free legitimacy tip: NEVER name your business “cycler” anything. it automatically makes you sound like a HYIP scam.
Your website is set to private also OZ, a bit hypocritical my friend.
Robin, you are definitely a brainwashed scammer! Your family is going to despise you after this totally pathetic, obvious scam crashes!
Funny…they had to take the “Site” down because they “overloaded” PayPal with all the Money coming in! lol…and Now the Site is “Offline”…..
When will people learn….just because you see a “LEADER” POSTING to get into some Quck …those same “Leaders” are the same people who got you into the Last FAILED Program!!!
So they are NO SMARTER than YOU when it comes to picking Business Opportunities….But they are Smart enough to Join FIRST-BEFORE YOU! AND GET YOU IN BELOW THEM!!!
STOP BEING SHEEP!!!
@Frank
BehindMLM is not an MLM company. The day it becomes one, feel free to hold it to the standards used in an MLM business opportunity review.
Seems the admins at Race Cycler; whoever they are have no experience with launching a product/company. The mistakes they are making are “amateur hour” from a tech perspective.
Move a server in the middle of the launch… What? They were predicting hundreds of thousands of people and the server could not handle it. Tells me they were waiting to see what money came in before upgrading…
I saw an update posted on social media. What a joke!
Kent Brown and Suzanne Simpson Combs. Two people I have had in depth conversations with. BOTH have, absolutely TREMENDOUS capacity to do good in the industry.
BOTH have absolutely amazing potential. They would be at the very pinnicle of success in a legitimate or viable networking company.
The way I see it, based on experience, is that they made some bad choices early on ie FHTM and other similar deals with crappy products or horrible/illegal pay plans. These choices gave them a bad experience with MLM.
Through that, they make the assumption like so many other’s that a “shortcut” is a good idea because MLM is “all the same”, which is very true, but only to an to an extent.
My point is simply that I have never seen so much wasted talent. Ive never seen so much potential for greatness get completely flushed down the toilet.
The results have moved past being really sad and are now moving towards the “pathetic” category.
@Common Sense
Have you ever read my “Six Types of Network Marketer” article?
Once someone’s bitten/trained by the “recruiter-type” it’s nearly impossible to convert them to “seller-type”.
NOLINK://kschang.hubpages.com/hub/Six-Types-of-Network-Marketers-which-type-are-you
Actually, there are only two types. Type 1 scams others, type 2 doesn’t.
Kelly Tolar is in this one to. How has she continued to be a big promoter of scams, but yet nothing has been done to put a stop to her?
I am sure it won’t be long before she moves on this one to to another scam.
Thanks K Chang. I will definitely check that out.
The general rule in business is that most bottlenecks are located close to the top of the bottles. It’s the general rule for people analysing the business, but people in those positions will hate that rule.
The people joining a business will simply respond to what that business offer them of possibilities. If the business primarily will reward them for recruitment then they will focus on that, adding all the dirty tricks they have themselves to get as much rewards as possible while it’s still being accepted.
The ones in control of a business will be the owners and leaders. That’s where the CAUSE of the problem usually is located, but the SYMPTOMS may pop up anywhere in the organization. “Rogue distributors can only thrive and exist under a rogue management”, i.e. there must be someone allowing them to thrive there.
The cause of the problem can also be described from the opposite perspective, i.e. there’s a market of consumers looking for income opportunities = the CAUSE of the problem can be found in the market itself, and the people selling to that market are simply responding to what that market offer them.
To solve that problem, you will usually need to solve all those 3 parts.
* the market
* the sales people
* the managers
Good solutions can’t be harmful to any of them, but there’s degrees of “acceptable harmfulness”.
@k Chang, I have not. Thanks.
When will Kelly Tolar be investigated for being involved in 1 scam after another. She made a fortune in Telexfree. Still promoting Argente and saying all she does is post an ad daily.
Now for the past week, Race Cycler. She is a MLM whore who should be thrown down!
@jacki People need to learn the difference between MLM and Ponzi deals. Kelly Tolar cant be an “MLM whore” if she has never been in one. She can be a Ponzi whore though 🙂
@Jacki
Rest assured that Telexfree tarts Kelly Tolar and Darcy Allen will be in the next round up along with Pastor L.A. Williams. He’s a crook in a whole different category. A minister administering a scam to his flock… Oye ve.
At his “World Changer Team USA” site he shows slides of the cars he bought with some of his ill gotten booty. Apparently he’s a romantic kinda guy buying his wife a 2013 XTS Caddy for Valentine’s day. What do they go for? 60-70,000?
$50.00 flowers and a box o chocolates wouldn’t express his love adequately? I supose it’s easy to give big when it’s other people’s money.
All this public bragging surly must be a great help to the authorities.
Wasn’t TelexFREE an MLM? How about all the other scams she was promoting?
An example of a Ponzi scheme is Madoff, an example of an illegal pyramid is TelexFREE (and most other MLMs for that matter). There are similarities and differences between the two, but she looks like the MLM (illegal pyramid) whore to me.
There’s already a Darcy Allen (Sacramento, CA) on the list. Is this the one you know?
And difference between MLM and pseudo-MLM schemes. The difference between MLM and pyramid scheme is blurry and traps the unwary who are taught to look up, aim high, and never mind stuff tripping them over as “negativity”.
Article updated with Kent Brown stating that i-Payout accepting Race Cycler looks unlikely.
The corproate excuse being trotted out is that i-Payout can’t handle Race Cycler’s volume.
lol……..these guys are just plain over the top silly
Well according to their facebook page which has a grand total of 229 Likes (not bad for such a big crowd of affiliates),
i-Payout’s likely knocked them back – coverup is they “can’t handle the volume” either.
https://behindmlm.com/companies/race-cycler-approach-i-payout-to-process-cycler-funds/
These guys might have to go to Wall Street to find someone who can handle a few hundred transactions…
These are the names of the e-books that are purchased for $230.00 I don’t know if they are worth the money or not but I have read a couple of them and found them informative:
-Creative Blogging
-How Facebook Advertising Benefits Your Business
-List Building Fast
-Marketing Online
-Mobile Marketing
-Personality And Personal Growth
-Positive Thinking Combo
-Present Power
-Winning Over Difficult People In Your Life
In conclusion I think that as long as there is a product there is a viable business attached to it.
You’re not actually purchasing the books. They’re bundled with cycler positions.
Try to purchase the books separately that price. Or better yet, sell them to retail customers.
Do you really think anybody is going to pay Race Cycler $230 for those books without the attached cycler position? Therein lies what is really being bought and sold.
Ass-backwards. The product has to be viable at a retail level.
I’ll bet you if you search online you’ll find the actual articles they are based on for free.
I have cycled 3 times and made 6,600 bucks. Stop the hate. The opportunity that Kent Brown and Ronnie Young made for us is going allow me to quite my job.
RACE CYCLER has reach France. The man that prEsents it trough webnibar in french don’t mention his full name on his blog, website neither on skype.
His group is “dream team.com’. He said there is about 500 afiliates in France.
Could somebody here post the facebook’s link of Ken Brown, Kelly Tollar, Suzanne Simpson Combs, Darcy Allen, Pasteur LA Williams, and Ronnie Young ? Thank you.
Please don’t. They can’t be that hard to locate.
It seems to me that “haters” will always have a negative report, and that “scammers” will always promise you the world.
Let’s see… the last post prior to mine was on September 12, 2014. What has happened in the last 30 days? Has it fizzled? Somebody “teach” me a lesson here!
Alexa traffic estimates for Race Cycler are typical of cycler scams. An initial spike that quickly deteriorates.
Where are all the defenders of Race Cycler now ?
The traveling circus and carnival season is fast approaching. Im sure they are busy with their winter training sessions. Getting the trailers de-roached, brushing up on their barking skills, etc.
I was in Race Cycler The whole thing was a scam I believe Kent Brown owned Race Cycler
Race Cycler was a scam and Kent Brown is a thief.
KENT BROWN lives in [removed] NC, for all those who he stole their money. He moved from Florida after he got caught in another scam there, stealing from elderly women.
He is starting another scam now about a FREE MEAT gig. He is days away from stealing from people again, be careful. A life long thief.