Six Figure Chicks threatens Whirlpool community forum
Over the last few days there has been a hurricane of activity over at the Whirlpool broadband forums. The thread titled ‘Six Figure Chicks’ has received numerous spam entries and marketing spiel from Liberty League associates.
Despite numerous requests and active engaging with the associates by the Whirlpool community, to date nothing has been posted which remotely explains the Liberty League concept. Instead the thread has simply been flooded with the same vague positivism we’ve seen here on OzSoapbox by various associates.
The posts started to flood in over Friday morning and although several blatant spam attempts have been removed, there’s still plenty of hilarious material left by the associates over at Six Figure Chicks.
As far as I was concerned at the beginning I was VERY sceptical, cynical and wary… I did my due diligence… like any smart business person – as I already own & run another two companies. I took a leap of faith and joined – because it’s NOT MLM – and the structure and compensation system is NOT like an MLM… And, I knew – because I had been invovled in various MLMs over the past 5 years.
At the end of the day, most people who listen to the masses stay with the masses and the masses are mediocre and so are their results that’s why they form the masses… Anyone who achieves ANYTHING worthwhile in the sports, performance arts, sciences, and in business KNOWS that they MUST do what the masses aren’t prepared to do…
Right, so a smart business person who has been involved in various MLM’s for the past years and who apparently runs two additional businesses is wholeheartedly recommending Six Figure Chicks. Oh wow sign me up!
I’ll tell you one thing the masses aren’t prepared to do, rip off their fellow Australians.
The people in Six Figure Chicks are real and their business is legit. Each persona has their own businesses within a large multi-national company that concentrates on helping people make major change in their lives, through personal development.
All information is provided free after an initial interview and there is no hard sell.
Why do I need to have an interview for you to explain to me what the hell your company is about?! Imagine walking into McDonalds asking what they sold and being directed to an interview room!
The scripts you refer to are a training aid, as people from all walks of life start their businesses, and not all are confident when talking on the phone. These are not tightly scripted
So I’m supposed to buy personal development material from people who are not confident talking on the phone? Gee I can’t wait to be mentored by these people, if they’ve used your personal development products and can’t talk over the phone clearly the products work.
Once you become qualified, ( passing up two training sales) no future income is passed up.
Outright lies. Once you’ve qualified to sell Beyond Freedom you’ve got to pass up 5 conference sales to qualify again or 4 if you buy a ticket yourself. True you can buy your own ticket and do nothing till your advisor has sold four tickets and qualify yourself but really, success through sitting around doing nothing? Not likely.
Is responding to misinformed comments initiated by others seen as dishonest? My integrity is in tack, I have made NO false statements, I have merely given my personal point of view.
As shown above clearly false statements are being made. I’m not sure what she’s tacking her integrity to.
This IS a legit business, approved by the ACCC in Australia, (also has a TripleA Rating with Dunn & Bradstreet).
Any one of the Six Figure Chicks will personally conduct an interview via telephone in order to establish if you are serious or just a tyre kicker…..They THEN provide you with all the information about the company, products, how you make profit etc.
and what’s refreshing is there is NO convincing by them! Either “you get it” or “you don’t” and they dont try to convince you one way or the other.
Again, why do I have to go through some interview process just to find out what Six Figure Chicks is about? How am I supposed to show you I ‘get’ something you won’t tell me anything about until after I’ve ‘got’ it?
It’s also worth noting that the ACCC doesn’t offer approvals to businesses or any type of certification. No idea who Dunn and Bradstreet are either.
MY GOODNESS! I have never subscribed to a forum/post like this & reading these incredidbly DUMB & NEGATIVE comments by dream stealers & naysayers, now I understand why! I will be deleting my WHIRLPOOL membership immediately.
Oh no, really? Gee that’s a shame. We’ll miss you.
ME? I’m out of here -NEVER to return. My integrity is intact, and will remain so.
Whirlpool – your forums are created by the same negative energy that creates Sunamis (sic) – I wont be a member any longer & would NEVER recommend Whirlpool as a place to visit.
Everybody knows public community forums rely on the recommendation of scammers to survive and thrive. I imagine Whirlpool now proceed to go bankrupt and dissapear off the face of the Earth now that you’ve pulled your support. Please come back.
Re-occuring theme here, Liberty League Associates seem to be lacking in the spelling department.
I can’t believe all the stuff I read on this site! I saw Six Figure Chicks advertised on TV and went to their website. I filled in my details and within a few hours a lady called Sheryl called me back. She asked me a few simple questions and then provided all the information on this business to me for free!!!!
So… uh care to share what you learnt?
…
*crickets chirping*
Thought so.
Despite over 400 posts in the thread and 9000+ views not one of the associates has been able to simply explain the concept.
Today at 5:15pm a user posting under ‘SixFigureChick’ made the following threat:
Dont beleive the hype on this forum! These people posting are from the competition and they are jealous of the success of Six Figure Chicks. Or they have joined our company and feel they have to blame everyone except themselves for their own failure.
Dont buy into their crap. Do yourself a favour and make an inquiry and do your own homework. Our company is totally compliant with ACCC. There are so many of us that have experienced fabulous incomes and results from the product mix.
Dont listen to the garbage posted on this forum. We have officially asked it to be removed and the matter has been taken further.
So apart from accusing the Whirlpool forum userbase as being from Liberty League’s competition and writing off anyone who doesn’t make money with the company (all 85% of active associates) as personal failures, SixFigureChick has also implied that action is to be taken against Whirlpool.
In response to the matter being taken further, all personal (and once publicly accessible) information has since been removed from the thread.
If it’s anything like the threats I received the owner of Whirlpool can expect several emails threatening legal action, the Australian Federal Police, accusations you belong to Liberty League’s competition and that people are ‘watching you so be careful’.
Currently the Whirlpool thread appears as the second result in a google search for ‘Six Figure Chicks’ and it’s clear a hornets nest is being stirred as more and more people find out the truth about this company.
Awesome work Oz, long live freedom of speech.
I’m having a lovely time sharing my rather negative Liberty League experience here and on Whirlpool… wouldn’t know what to do with myself without them.
And no I’m not the competition, and I’m not jealous of the Six Figure Chicks success. I have learned from my experience that if I have to choose between my integrity and trying to earn money with LLI, integrity wins no question.
An empty threat. Notice that all they said was that it was “taken further”. They made no mention of what exactly that meant, if anything.
If they were to sue Whirlpool or the individual posters it woiuld be a rather expensive exercise for them. That means a far smaller marketing budget. No TV ads for some time, etc. They know their money would be far better spent on the marketing than trying to pursue a claim in court.
It would also mean that their entire business structure would be examined in depth by defense lawyers–clearly, the last thing they want is to have light shone on their practices.
Had to laugh and leave this message, under this article there are ‘Ads by Google’. One was for Liberty League lol
New signups here in Australia are keeping LLI alive, If we can shine the light on all the main players in Liberty League here then their business will suffer worldwide. This forum is VERY powerful.
Thanks guys I was looking at signing up in hope that it was all worth it Im not going to now although I feel like a bit of a sucker I am really glad I didnt loose all that money. Thanks again from a mother of 4
Deb, very glad you were able to learn from the experience of those who have given it a go and found out that it wasn’t worth it. Helping people like you steer clear of LLI is why I am doing this.
Whoops, some spelling errors
My son doesn’t have access to my bank account – thankfully! and will I folk out.. should be. fork out money…
Spelling is not my strong suit!
I must be missing something here with the Liberty League comments. They are mums and dads making great money which has nothing to do with MLM, dont know where that comment came from. They also raised $176k or so for charity recently. Not sure if my reply will make the forum as positive comments are normally withheld no matter which forum we reply to. Im not a member but have seen my friends who were going to lose their house now turn their lives around to a positive outcome and they now share this experience with other business people.
Betty, where’s the link to the $176K charity donation?
One thing I have found is LLI associates posting on these blogs and forums never back up their claims with facts or evidence.
The only associates who provide fact and evidence are those that have lost money and left the Liberty League scam.
Hi Betty, if you’re not a member then who is ‘we’ in ‘which forum we reply to?’
Also how did you come across this site and what do you get out of spreading positive experiences on ‘every forum we reply to’ if you’re not a member of Liberty League?
Something doesn’t add up.
There’s an email circular from Shannon Lavennia stating that there was $174k raised for the start a wish Foundation at the recent summit conferennce in Hawaii.Its also been posted on Liberty League Life ning forum .Coming from nearly one thousand ‘six figure income earners’in attendance at the conference, it doesn’t make good reading as in donation per head…
I dont earn a six figure salary but personally donated twice their average to charity this year… I dont feel the need to send out circulars to say I’ve done this!!!
I would hazard an educated guess that for each ‘mum and dad’ saying they are making good incomes… 85% of them are lying!
Actually, strike that ‘guess’…. its a fact…85% of Liberty League Associates barely break even.
You are all such sad individuals…….I dont know anybody in LLI or Sixfigchicks…..but it seems if i had to choose a side, I wouldnt choose the side that was downing, ridiculing and puting up facts that look like they’ve been taken from the weetbix cardboard box……and im sure you’ll all make a comment about this and that’l just show how pathetic you all are.
unlike you Oz i dont spend my day thinking about how i can make others feel small by making myself feel big…..you must have the little willy syndrome….did your mother not breastfeed you?
and the facts that YOU supplied came from a weetbix box….duh
@ Toni,
Most of the facts here have come from former Liberty League associates (like myself) and from Oz (he has done a great job of researching). This information is not posted for financial gain, like the majority of “liberty league is a scam” blogs and websites. Just factual and informative, with some great testimonials from former associates.
If the facts about the business look like they’ve come from a cardboard box, what does that say about the business?
You’re posting from a QLD IP address, Queensland the scam capital of Australia – Yes I’m sure you don’t know anyone from LLI and were just randomly seeking out information on them.
Toni, if you don’t know anyone in LLI and you’re not in it yourself, why would you even bother wasting your time with your negative comments and personal insults on this forum.
I don’t feel pathetic and don’t need to make myself feel big. I feel stupid that I was taken in by the LLI hype, and I feel proud that my integrity is such that I won’t continue and try and con others with the hype.
The facts is that 85% of associates make less than $13K, that is taken from LLI website. Fact is that I lost over $10K, that is taken from my credit card and bank statements.
Fact is, I will share my story to stop others being taken in, even if people like you try and hijack these forums with your own negativity and personal put downs.
Fact is, I’m grateful to Oz for this forum being available for me to share my story, so thanks Oz, we are making a difference!
@Toni
Toni. You need help with your anger issues.. see if you can get your hands on a copy of Beyond Freedom… I believe you will get it on ebay for a couple of dollars.
Oh now we’re coming out with the personal insults whilst not addressing or rebutting anything that has been posted. Yeah I just love making myself feel big at others expense, sounds like motivational spiel to me.
I suppose I’m also negative, uncoachable and just “don’t get it” too.
Tell me where do you think the facts I supplied came from?
This is an awesome post! I would never have heard about this Whirlpool stuff if you hadn’t have posted it here – I’m sorry but I can tell – in a split second from just looking at their website – that it is all nonsense and that the average person is not going to make anything substantial from them. I love the bit on their site that says “What kind of work will I need to do? >> Probably exactly what you’re doing at your current job” – oh awesome, so looking after two babies is finally going to pay the bills.
There are a lot of women out there who, unfortunately, would be suckered into something like this due to the personality they have. It’s kind of sad, but also somewhat understandable.
Oz, great site. I have no doubt that there are a number of folk that have made a great amount of money from LLI, but they would be vastly out numbered by those that have not made much or are actual running at a lose.
Betty-Narelle Atkins – Raised $176k, that’s nice. Good on them. If it’s true what Martin wrote that it came from almost 1k worth of members earning 6 figure incomes, then it’s only a scratch on the surface to what they could afford.
Betty-Narelle Atkins – while I think, if you’ve seen the impact on your friends, why aren’t you a member? Also, can you find out how many of their downline are making more than the average of 85% of members (ie actually making money)?
There’s something particularly nasty (dare I say negative) about characterising your victims as sore losers, competitors, or just jealous.
Exclusivist and threatening to questioners and critics, no rebuttal of substance – typical of a cult.
AFAIK Dunn & Bradstreet was/is a debt collection agency.
“My integrity is in tack.”
Well that nails that one down.
Best comment so far “If it has spots, runs really fast and eats gazelles then it’s not a unicorn people”.
Six Figure Chicks just booted most of the chicks in the six figure income co-op. She just used them for their marketing $$ and now benefits from the advertising herself. Nice chick!
Hi there
I know I am coming late to this but on the subject of:
“No idea who Dunn and Bradstreet are either.”
“Dunn & Bradstreet was/is a debt collection agency.”
Yes, but Dun & Bradstreet is a widely used business profiling and credit rating agency in addition to a debt collection agency. I suspect that’s what they’re talking about when they mention their A++++++++AA++ rating :).
You (or more likely a business) can subscribe to their various products/databases and get brief profiles of companies that you’re interested in e.g. how big they are, how many employees, where they’re located, what they do, how long they take to pay their bills and how much credit suppliers tend to give them.
There are two problems with this in the context of the above:
– first, much of D&B’s data is self-reported i.e. the subject company themselves provided the info to D&B.
– secondly, each company has a separate rating but 6FC said: “Each persona has their own businesses within a large multi-national company”. That statement doesn’t really make sense – if each 6FC’s business is “within” the company, then I can only assume they don’t own their business because there’s only one company. But if each “persona” has their own legal identity and it’s not one big company, then each of the 6FCs would have their own D&B rating.
At the least there are missing facts. If they have a D&B rating, then they also ought to have been allocated a DUNS (Data Universal Numbering System) by D&B, and it would be useful if they could supply it. 🙂
Thanks for clearing that up Rabbit. Great explanation and yet another nail in the coffin to some of the nonsense claims made by associates.
UGH!! I am not so sure now. I won’t to believe such thing’s. I have put my name and number down to see if they call and hear what they have to say… But, I am very nervous now!
I want*…..to believe! 😛
Good luck Mel, you’re going to need it.
So do I!
I am thankful I didn’t lose that much, lost a bit over 3,000. I’m just glad I did a lot more research, that included government sites and phone calls to a couple of government organisations. I’m just glad I’m not in it anymore. Thanks Oz for these forums!
Oz. You will be thrilled to hear that Rania is planning a new year tv add campaign for her latest scam. If you are quick and send her a cool grand, you can get in on the action.
http://www.dublimarketingco-op.com/thank-you.htm
I’m going to have to do some reading up on Dubli I think. At this stage though I’m keen to just see how Polaris plays out in the first quarter of 2010.
From what I know about Dubli it’s your standard reverse auction affair. Depending on the product being auctioned there seems to be some disgruntlement over the fact that whilst someone might get a bargain, Dubli themselves are in a position to make a ludicrous profit based on how many people are watching the auction.
I’ve skimmed over the Whirlpool thread and I read that newsreport from last week about the possible gambling suspicions but at this stage I’d have to do a fair bit more reading before I started penning articles on the business model.