Understanding the Liberty League sales model
Six figure incomes, seven figure incomes?! How the hell are these associates making so much money?!
As a new or prospective associate you’ve probably asked yourself this a few times. You might have even raised these queries during your signup period only to be told by your advisor they currently weren’t earning six figures but were “on target for a six figure income”, or if they were successful it was due to totally embracing the lifestyle liberty league has to offer.
Anyone with half a brain isn’t going to be satisfied by these vague answers.
Today I plan to show you exactly how it’s done. No marketing spin, no vagueness and no I’m not trying to sell you an alternative program or my own get rich quick scheme.
One of the biggest selling points you’ve probably noticed if you’ve read the sales material or dozens of Unified Wealth Solutions sales pages out there is the emphasis that Liberty League is not a MLM or pyramid scheme.
I’m not going to straight up tell you that it is, instead I’m going to present to you the income structure of the top earners and let you decide for yourself.
1. Beyond Freedom Qualification
When you join Liberty League International you are placed under an advisor and are listed on their Beyond Freedom sales register.
From here your main objective is then to qualify yourself as an advisor which then entitles you to start turning over a profit.
To qualify you have two options;
- Make five direct sales of Beyond Freedom (US$1495) yourself or
- Purchase Beyond Freedom yourself and make two further sales of Beyond Freedom. Note that sales count whether your advisor makes them or you yourself do. This is known as ‘Team Qualification’.
The first obvious question here is that if you don’t commit yourself and buy Beyond Freedom, how on earth are you going to sell it? Imagine trying to sell a car without ever having driven one or being a sales rep for a company having never used their products.
As you can see Liberty League has setup the qualifying process to encourage you to purchase the product yourself. Once you’ve invested financially into the company you’re more likely to continue.
Whichever qualifying method you choose, all your sales profits ($1000 per sale of Beyond Freedom) are passed up to your advisor.
The chart below shows how the Beyond Freedom sales register works for your advisor. Note that after qualifying (minimum of $2000 passed up), associates are struck from the register and the people they referred (2 if they bought Beyond Freedom and 5 if they didn’t) move up the register directly under the advisor.
For the sake of simplicity I’ve left the qualified associates on the chart and shown the passed up sales revenue in green.
This chart operates on the minimum sales (2) required to qualify, any advisors who don’t purchase the product will generate even more revenue for their advisor. I’ve only done 4 layers in the chart but potentially it just keeps on going.
If you got into Liberty League in Australia first and have been doing it for two years imagine how big your sales register might be. This gives you an idea of where the six figure incomes come from.
Each associate, like yourself, that your advisor recruits is capable of creating a unique tentacle revenue stream like the above.
It’s also worth noting that if you turn your head to the left, what does the image look like to you? Keep in mind I haven’t manipulated the data in any way, this just happens to be how the money is made.
2. Making it on your own
Once you’ve qualified and made your sales you are then struck off your advisor’s sales register and sent out to make your own register.
Any people you referred to the program stay on your advisor’s sales register and you are barred from making any money off them.
That’s right, upon qualifying your are required to start from scratch.
One of my readers, Jenny highlights the problem with this;
Big problem for me was, after making my first $1000 profit sale, my advisor (who had made $US8000 profit from me) told the associates I’d introduced (who she was also Summit Advisor too) that she wouldn’t do their 3-way calls as I was capable of doing them. And what a story I had to tell… been in the business 4 months, spent $10,000, and made $1,000.
Once you’ve made the initial Beyond Freedom qualification, all of a sudden your advisor doesn’t want to know you until you’re ready to qualify again. This is quite disturbing as you’ll see in the next section there’s still a lot of profit to be made off you from your advisor.
3. Liberty Conference qualification
So you’re trying to build your own Beyond Freedom sales register and decide you want to go to the next step, Liberty advisor. Liberty advisors are able to sell the Liberty 3 day conference which retails for US$7995 ($5000 profit).
The bad news is that you go onto your advisor’s Liberty sales register to qualify. Once again there are two ways to qualify;
- Purchase your own Liberty Conference ticket and share team qualification with your advisor. Four sales need to be made after you’re original purchase between you and your advisor.
- Directly sell yourself five tickets to a Liberty conference. The profits of these sales ($25,000) are entirely passed onto your advisor.
Once again the same dilemma arises of attempting to sell a product you yourself haven’t experienced so most associates will opt to buy a ticket themselves and qualify under option 1.
At this point the same process is repeated and once qualified you are struck from your advisor’s sales register and required to start building your own liberty sales list. Any referrals you made while qualifying remain on your advisor’s Liberty register.
The chart below might help in making things clearer.
What’s interesting to note is that whilst Beyond Freedom has a relatively low entry point price tag and qualification number (2 minimum), the Liberty conference on the other hand requires a minimum of five sales no matter which qualification option you choose.
Again I’ve only covered three layers (my chart skills are kind of crap) but potentially this tentacle stream of money can keep on going. Well as long as there’s still new recruits committing to the company anyway.
The price tag of the Liberty conference is higher and this is the start of the base of the six figure salaries you’ve heard so much about. The next level up is the Summit Conference which has it’s own qualifiying process and yields even more revenue for your advisor.
The Liberty conference is also a much more easier product to sell as it’s easier to convince someone to part with additional money on the promise of your own revenue stream, once they’ve already heavily invested themselves into the business.
4. Making sense of it all
As you can see in the charts I’ve provided, whoever is at the top of the sales register makes the most money. Not unlike a the common name of a certain type of well known and often illegal scheme that continually seems to be re-inventing itself.
Further to that during the various stages of qualification money is passed up to your advisor and you must pass up sales. Or in other words:
The structure is designed to create a marketing and sales force by compensating promoters of company products not only for sales they personally generate, but also for the sales of other promoters they introduced to the company, creating a downline of distributors and a hierarchy of multiple levels of compensation.
This is taken from Wikipedia’s entry on Multi Level Marketing.
If you joined Liberty League today it’ll be at least a few months before you made the various qualifications and started to build your own successful sales registers. Now imagine if you started two years ago, which nearly all of the top associates in Australia did.
Two years ago Liberty League was unknown in Australia and as such new to the market. These days there are a few associate cartels out there who have succesfully cornered the Australian Liberty League market.
The tentacle sales model benefits them greatly as they got in first and as such it’s no surprise they are making six figure salaries. As a new associate joining today though ask yourself, with the money these people are making just how long do you think their sales lists must be?
With so many people trying to market the product to a fixed market size (there’s only so many people in Australia) how long is this going to be sustainable for? How are you going to compete in a saturated marketplace against competitors who have had a 2 year head start?
Only you can answer these questions. If after reading all of the above there’s an uneasy pit in the bottom of your stomach you’re not alone. Think long and hard before you sign up to this business model. Look past the glitz of the conferences, the sales pitches and the overly positive conference calls.
At the heart of Liberty League is money which can only be provided from external sources, ie. people with other income streams investing money into Liberty League to keep it afloat. The company itself doesn’t produce a tangible product or something that has any demand beyond those investing in the company with their own funds.
Without continous new recruitment and injection of funds, associates don’t turn over a profit. All that is happening here is the transition of your invested money to someone higher in the company (your advisor, their advisor and so forth).
If you’re lucky (and the odds are stacked against you) you’ll one day be in a position where you’ll have people under you passing up their hard earned money to you.
Does that sound like a sustainable and ethical business model to you?
Look at the hard facts before making a decision that could ruin your life.
Hey Oz.. another great article.
The only thing… when you say ‘the odds are stacked against you’ I thought it best to point out that 85% of ‘active associates’ do not make enough money to even cover their costs.
If Liberty League were to include ‘all associates’ in their calculations, I would think that percentage figure would be a hell of a lot higher.
The odds of just breaking even are stacked against you.
I’ve just spoken to ACCC Scam Alert and made an official complaint about why in my opinion Liberty League fits their definition of an illegal pyramid scheme… would be the overpriced products that are difficult to sell, and the fact recruitment is the main aim.
They have advised to get as many people as possible who have lost money to also call them, as well as ASIC. Please, please do this if you have looked into the business and think it is wrong, or you are like me and have joined and have a personal experience of losing money.
The two numbers are:
ACCC Scam Alert 1300 302 502
ASIC 1300 300 630
They want company names to associate with the complaint… I gave them Liberty League as well as Six Figure Chicks and Rachel Oliver Enterprises
ASIC couldn’t find Liberty League as being registered with ASIC, although the ACCC said they were… if anyone knows how to find Liberty Leagues Australian ACN or if you talk to ACCC and they look them up and find it, let me know so I can add it to my complaint.
Please share if you make a call so we know action is being taken.
Great description of Liberty League’s qualification process Oz.
If only this web site was around when I started out, I would be 50k better off.
I don’t get it. This is a get-rich-quick scheme. A pyramid scheme. I could tell that straight away. If it has spots, runs really fast and eats gazelles then it’s not a unicorn people. For example Jenny – did you know what it was and thought you could make money anyway or are you genuinely surprised at how it worked in the end? I’m not trying to come across as a condescending prick, but this is a cliche – seminars, buzz words, promises of incredible incomes (especially in the middle of the good ol’ GFC).
Wow, being very new to forums, I have been blown away by the amount of comments and negativity in relation to LLI. I have recently joined LLI and I have been happy to do so. I did think long and hard about it. It is not true to say they have no products because they do. The base product is a home based personal development program that I have been using and have found very helpful. There are two more products that are very expensive. But who is to say what value they should be?? Why would someone pay $1000’s for artwork? Some motivational speakers charge megabucks to hear them speak – what determines their value?
What I have found is that there has been much support. I have really enjoyed the whole learning side – websites, marketing, trying to get my head around blogs, forums and facebook – to name a few. All this learning and a great personal development tool for about $2000. Real hands on practical stuff too. Plus lots of sharing of information from associates that have had success in particular areas. All there at your finger tips. Webinars, regular question and answer sessions. It has been a great learning curve. In terms of being able to speak to more experienced or successful associates, I have not found any problems. Not that I have wanted to contact many. The ones I admire have readily emailed me – and I have their phone contacts. I often speak to my advisor who is always happy to talk to me. I also clearly understand that I am creating my business within the support of LLI. My level of involvement is entirely up to me.
What I have found is a culture of being positive, looking at what holds you back from doing what you really want to do. Of course, there is that annoying American hoopla about it – something us aussies generally can’t handle – I just look past this aspect. No one has pressured me to purchase the more expensive products, in fact, no one has even asked me to. Perhaps I have just been lucky with my advisor. I have seen the info on the potential benefits if you purchase the other two products and how this helps your business. This should be a business decision like any other. Again, I will clearly state NO ONE has even asked – much less pressured – me to pay big money for these conferences. I am quite content to go slowly and conservatively. I have heard many stories of how associates did what ever they could to buy these products and position themselves for greater earnings. Of course these associates are very successful.
How many businesses are started on borrowing? How many businesses have guaranteed earnings? Always it is potential. Always there is risk. Even if you purchase a successful local deli or fruit shop there is no guarantee that the business will continue to be successful once you take over. I have seen this in my own community – shoppers are fickle.
For the LLI people here that lost money, I feel sad this has happened. What went wrong? Has the learning, the home program, the conferences given you nothing? I think the philosophy of LLI is to open yourself up, to expand, to reach your potential. This must be where you start – with yourself. Unfortunately, I think people just see $$ and get blinded by that. This can happen in any industry and does.
In all of the information available to me before signing up, I was told that I would have to work, that I would need to be coachable and undertake training. Even to be told, VERY CLEARLY, that I would not be successful if I did not, in fact, work hard, be diligent, persistent and follow established guidelines. I have certainly spent a lot of time in learning this business but I have come in cold to the wonders of the internet (other than basic browsing and emails)
The other very important fact is with the vetting process at the start. Your first contact with an associate is to determine if you are suitable. This means someone who is really ready and willing to start their own business. The point is to select the person who is truly interested and motivated to work for him/herself and all that means. It is not for everyone. Most people would find starting and running your own business too onerous. The problem is, some people just see the dollars and jump in, they don’t really consider the implications of running your own business. This is also not confined to LLI.
As far as associates that fail, I think it is so easy to blame others and I know that sounds harsh. The bottom line is you are responsible for your own decisions, mistakes and successes. LLI or any of their associates have not taken money out of your bank account. You did that. No one else. Every day there are thousands of failed businesses. Thousands of really good ideas that never have success. Why do they fail? the reasons are as many as the stars. What LLI does is provide a formula for doing business from which many people have had success. I was clearly told to do my own research, my own due diligence. Whilst the $signs are enticing, I did see past this. I also focused on the product itself – after all without a good product, you have nothing – as this Oz points out.
I think that many of the comments/opinions I have read seem very biased. Even naive in the sense that only this type of business is a bad one. So many other business opportunities promise big dollars – whether that be in a retail shop, a franchise, anything. It is the money that is the carrot. Not many people buy into a McDonald’s business for the love of making hamburgers or being able to take food orders. It is done for the money. Is a BigMac a good product? Is it worth the money? NO WAY! not in my book. Ask the average teen and you will get a different answer – not only does Mc’ers provide great food, it also provides a social outlet – who knew??
So to you pooh poohers perhaps you could broadened your thoughts on business – small owner businesses especially – as a whole. Have a look at purchasing any local retail business – you will see glowing financials, the best possible light of the business regardless of it actually being real or not. Consider buying shares – how many people get caught or have great success on the latest hot listing. Big dollars flashing, potential earnings, ra, ra, ra. Who is to say it will be a success?
As always the buyer beware. Every day we are bombarded with people wanting our money. Most of it very enticing. Just watch the TV in the morning when children watch. It is shocking. Does that mean I will rush out I purchase every fantastic, must have toy on offer?? No – my young boy certainly would and that is why he does touch my bank account. I have receive much value from my investment and involvement in LLI. Will I be tempted to folk out big money – maybe. Will I make a success? I hope so. Will I risk having large debts – never.
I have not yet made any money but I feel the world has opened up for me. It has been a great experience.
Hi Brigid, and welcome to the forum. Make sure you check out the whirlpool one too.
As for not being pressured to buy the conferences, they don’t pressure, they ‘inspire’. Have you not been listening to the training calls. Pretty much every one will include testimonials from associates about how you just have to get to a conference, and they frequently outline the amount of money you are missing out on by not being Liberty or Summit qualified. My Summit advisor even told me she didn’t want me to miss out on all that money I could be earning, which would go to her if I didn’t buy my conference tickets and get qualified myself. That was her spiel, no it wasn’t pressure, it was ‘kindness’ on her part.
I haven’t been to a conference, although I do have a ticket that I won’t be using. I do know that there is a very small rate of repeat attendance, which suggests that most people aren’t successful as they aren’t around in the business a year later. I’ve also been told by associates that have been that they are more a ‘lifestyle’ conference with plenty of time to party and lay by the pool, with very few speakers presenting info. If I’m paying $10k to go to a conference, I want it to be packed with content.
I was like you when I first joined, I too spent a lot of time learning the marketing side. I advertised on Seek, Facebook, google and the local newspaper, I put flyers up all around my area, I emailed my lists, and I wrote ezine articles. Everything I said was positive and I was sure it would work and my efforts would be rewarded. I was excited about the people, the products and the opportunity.
And the results didn’t come. I had 1000’s of hits on my ads and website, I put people on conference calls and did 3-ways, and had lots of people telling me they’d get started, and then not go ahead. Maybe they found forums like this and woke up before they got on board.
Eventually, I had to questions whether to stay involved. Yes I could have stayed committed and maybe I would have been successful. BUT, I’d discovered the magical figure, that 85% of active associates make less than $13k. I know I can be in the top 15% of the population, I’ve proven it to myself in other arenas. BUT, I couldn’t continue to promote a business as being about achieving financial freedom, when I know 85% of people won’t achieve it. Sure you can say well that is their journey… but I couldn’t do that and feel like I was acting with integrity.
I chose to leave as soon as I realised I only wanted people to join so that I’d recoup some of my money.
Looking back at my experience now, I see the whole operation as being a very, very sleek and slick sales pitch that I fell for, which is continued once you are on board in all of the trainings. When you are in it, I do think it’s like being in a cult, you can’t see it for what it is, and you listen to advice which just doesn’t make sense, but you want to believe so you do.
My hope for you is that you’ve been woken up enough to see Liberty League with some objectivity.
I posted on another forum earlier the news that Michael Hamburger has left Liberty League. You may recall that Hamburger is the brother in law of LLI co-founder Brent Payne.
He has moved to an opposing company as he had ‘issues’ with LLI products. This is going to hurt LLI big time as Hamburger was a major player in the company. Maybe it was something he read here??
Hi Bridget. Finally, out of ten thousand Liberty League Associates, there’s one that can actually put a sentence together without threats, spam or worse
Great post. Each to their own an I wish you success with your business but next time you are qualifying someone for the call let them know that they have little chance of success with Liberty League and will most likely end up making nothing or going into debt no matter how much training they commit to.
As you will no doubt eventually realise, you will make nothing with liberty league just selling Beyond Freedom as the cost per sale barely covers any profit, if at all. Thats when you will be forced to make the choice between ending your involvement or purchasing conference tickets. You will purchase the conference tickets because you are allready hooked into belief. Let us know when you have purchased the tickets and I will briefly explain how your next few months goes.
Also ask yourself what your business is worth today if you had to get out of it for whatever reason?? Worthless, I’m afraid, as are the products. How much do you think you could get for your Beyond Freedom on the open market??.. come on .. be honest.. $20? $25?
“As far as associates that fail, I think it is so easy to blame others and I know that sounds harsh. The bottom line is you are responsible for your own decisions, mistakes and successes. LLI or any of their associates have not taken money out of your bank account. You did that. No one else. Every day there are thousands of failed businesses. Thousands of really good ideas that never have success. Why do they fail? the reasons are as many as the stars. What LLI does is provide a formula for doing business from which many people have had success.”
Sounds remarkably ‘Tony Rush’speak!
Hi there Brigid,
You must understand that where you are at now with Liberty League is where I (and many others were) 12 months ago . The world had opened it arms to me also. I was amongst this amazing group of like minded people, excited about a great future with plenty of support from the community and my summit advisor, not pressure just support.
I joined after being retrenched from a large corporation where I worked for 19 years. I joined Liberty League to allow me to work from home with my wife and 2 beautiful daughters. I did not want to commute 2 1/2 hours each day to work ever again. I was not after the big money. To be quite honest if I could earn $80k a year to be home with my family I would of been very happy.
At the time I thought that Beyond Freedom was a good investment, just sell one or two a week and I have reached my income goal. I had no intentions of purchasing conference tickets. My advisor did not sell it to me directly, He just kept telling me to do the 5 steps to success, which he and many others on the calls announce is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL.
We attended the Super Saturday last September in Sydney and stepped up and purchased both Liberty and Summit tickets.
Yes, we were aware of the income disclosure. Like most successful people, we absolutely believed we would be in at least the top 15% if we followed the system.
We were wrong, after 12 months, we have left the company 50K+ in debt with no profits whatsoever.
Of course it is entirely your choice, but one word of warning, Liberty League is not a company that you stick in your big toe to test the water, you need to purchase the conference tickets to have any remote chance of success with this business. This is where the dilemma starts, no large outlay, no chance of success. GOOD LUCK and keep us posted.
Apart from the great points made by Martin and Jenny I’d just like to add that as a new associate Brigid you haven’t had the chance to be crushed by the success percentages yet.
You appear to display the stereotypical positiveness seen in all new associates so it seems whoeever recruited you has done their work well.
I don’t suggest every other franchise is brilliant or that LLI are the only shonksters out there. This isn’t neccesarily solely a site on LLI, just that after seeing their ads and investigating I didn’t like what I saw. As such I’ve decided to share as much as I’ve learned with anyone seeking the information.
I don’t know how new you are to the business but as of yet it sounds like you’re not too heavily financially invested in it. I’d love to hear back from you after your conference qualified.
Take care and best of luck, and remember there aren’t too many franchise models with an 85% failure rate. Make no mistake, the odds are stacked against you.
Just a quick post from one of the newbies over at the LibertyLeaguelife ning forum:
“I thought I would check in and provide some insight into this newbies attempt to stick his chest out and ‘break the tape’ and begin to start adding one new BF sale each week. Last week I struck out. . . I sent 22 people to the business overview meeting, went to bed thinking “ka-ching”, woke up, gave them a call and. . . back to prospecting.”
Little does he realise that on average he will have to put 90 to 100 people on the calls to get a customer…. lets see how he goes after a few more empty weeks!!
If you are thinking of working with LLI (or Amway and other pyramid selling schemes) and laying out good money folks, think again. Just a minimum of research on the Intertubes turns up a wealth of people who have serious issues with this rather troublesome corporation.
In May 2006, the Arizona Attorney General issued Liberty League International a US$115,000 fine. In addition to civil penalties, attorney’s fees, and restitution, the defendants are also required to:
* Refrain from making unsubstantiated income claims.
* Advise potential customers of the correct percentage of participants who have made a profit through their participation in the Liberty League program.
* Refrain from making any false or deceptive statements in their marketing materials.
Remember the old axiom – if it seems to good to be true, its because it probably is!
In 1966 I managed to extract my mother from a scheme which was all but identical in structure, perhaps the first such in Australia. These would eventually become known as “pyramid schemes” and rightfully made illegal since they are a variant of the classic Ponzi scheme where new players provide the income for the older player.
Originators and early adopters can make huge amounts of money as long as they are very good salespeople. But these schemes are built (as clearly shown above) on the idea of constant doubling, also known as exponential growth.
The practical upshot of this is that in a very short time (a year or three) the potential market is saturated with people trying to sign up everybody else, who are also trying to sign up everybody else … leading to a sudden and total collapse of the scheme.
Every few years somebody reinvents the wheel, and along comes another one. One of the more spectacular ones was “Golden Aeroplanes” or “Golden Flights” which directly followed the collapse of the Rajneesh cult, greatly enriching a handful of leaders at the expense of the many followers. I mention this because these schemes use the same methods cults do to “attach” members, such as “love bombing” followed by cool distance, causing the victim to give up commonsense in favor of approval – which costs.
This is typified by Bridget above where she has been told that any critical appraisal of the scheme is “negativity” to be ignored, as are warnings from those who have previously failed in the scheme as “their own fault” through lack of application, and nothing to do with the basic scheme structure being Mt Impossible for latecomers.
The basic truth of business is “return equals risk”. Large returns mean large risks – the more money you stand to make, the greater the chances of going totally bust. In the case of pyramid schemes such as this one the potential rewards are huge, meaning the chances of taking a really cold bath are also huge. “Beginners are winners” so by the time someone is trying to sign you up it’s already all over.
I’m a new recruit to LLI having purchased Beyond Freedom from a colleague who has become more of a friend over time. Frankly I understood little of the business model but was enticed by the opportunity to earn good money without the headaches of running a business.
I’m a 55 y.o. planning on semi-retiring in the not too distant future and looking for a replacement income of around $150K pa. While being reasonably successful in my own business for the last 10 years, recruiting, training and keeping good staff is a constant activity and overhead which is not easily factored into the overheads of running a small business.
Other expenses and management include employing people, paying super, renting premises, maintaining compliance and competing with an ever growing line of cowboys and numerous other challenges faced when running your own business. I attended the super conference on Saturday 29th August 2009 in the expectation of finding that opportunity to gently ease out of my existing business (selling it) and putting the required 15 -20 hours into LLI to make the kind of money spoken of during the business calls.
Well, it came as something more than a surprise to be advised that LLI was essentially “dead” and is being replaced with a whole new organisation, structure and products – Polaris media group. If it came as a surprise to me you can imagine the consternation experienced by most others in attendance. The “rah, rah” as it’s been described mitigated much of the anxiety as did the re-assurance of founder Shane Krider who comes across as very credible in his quest to educate the world. The rest of the crew were very clearly driven by the $ and made no bones about it. It was also apparent that Shane and his colleagues are quite dependent on a selected few in Australia to carry the business.
I spoke to about 10-12 associates during the breaks and after the event. Without exception none were making any money even though some had been involved for 6-12 months. It seemed they were there for inspiration and hope that somehow they would receive the magic needed to turn things around. One person who was attending with his wife and daughter had taken out a loan to attend the conference in Hawaii and so far hadn’t made a single sale.
In spite of this I decided to pursue the opportunity, after their success or lack of it didn’t dictate my own. (By the way I still haven’t completed the beyond Freedom program). Like others, my knowledge and skills of the internet, website development and social networks was pretty lame. So, you need a lot of time to invest in gaining this knowledge. You then have to decide on a website and designer and while there are a few companies involved with LLI who can do this for you, many of their sites have the same look and feel with the same old tired testimonials. It would be reasonable to say this is like any other business which requires an investment in time and money to understand before you can actually take your first step in making any money.
Up until yesterday, 8.09.09, I was still committed to pursuing this opportunity, having prepared a business plan, opening a new bank account, registering a business name, ABN and GST, deciding on a target market, submitted specifications for a website to be developed when I received an email from Shane Krider advising that dept of fair trading had issued a statement in relation to LLI and that all correspondence with journos and the like should be directed to the PR agency they had engaged. The email prompted me to view the article which led me to this site and some others which have caused me to put everything on hold pending further investigation. Needless to say much my enthusiasm has been dampened. Thanks to the other contributors for their experience and insights to the business. I’ve learnt more about the model, operations and expectations from this site than I did from 12 hours at the Super Saturday conference.
Thanks Oz, great site and great article. You saved me some $$$$ brother. Let me buy you a slab of beer champ. We need more people like you on the Net.
No worries Tim, glad you found the information useful. Thanks for reading.
hi its been a couple of years and i cant seem to see any updated post yet. I’m new to polaris global so ill let you know how its going in 6 months time