OneCoin affiliates claim IPO dropped, ICO to take place in Oct, 2018
In the wake of declining affiliate recruitment and continued silence from OneCoin management, Muhammad Zafar and his troop of top UK OneCoin investors descended on Sofia, Bulgaria for answers.
OneCoin founder Ruja Ignatova wasn’t there to meet them. Upon learning top investors were coming to Bulgaria to demand answers, Ignatova fled the country.
Explains Zafar;
We had a head-office meeting today. Initially it was planned with Dr. Ruja.
For some reason she couldn’t travel back to Sofia. She was out of (the) country.
Zafar’s troop were instead greeted by puppet CEO Pierre Arens, who revealed the much-hyped OneCoin IPO has been dropped.
For months now OneCoin management have been urging affiliates to trade in their worthless OneCoin Ponzi points for equally worthless OFC shares.
The marketing pitch saw OneCoin claim it was going to list itself on the public exchange of an undisclosed Asian market.
According to Muhammad Zafar, Pierre Arens told his group those plans have now been cancelled.
Unfortunately for OneCoin investors wondering what is going on, Zafar’s explanation is nonsensical at best.
(The) ICO is gunna happen (in) October, 2018.
Why the company changed from IPO to ICO? That’s what you want to know.
Because ICO has been popular and company can’t ignore the fact that the company has to protect the interest of all the leaders – all the members.
Huh?
As far as floating a Ponzi scheme publicly or converting Ponzi points into a publicly tradeable cryptocurrency goes, the end result is the same:
Be it OneCoin shares or OneCoin Ponzi points, if the company goes public the value crashes.
The public aren’t interested in Ponzi points with an inflated internal value so there’s no demand outside of OneCoin itself.
The key difference between an IPO and ICO though, with respect to protecting OneCoin’s “top leaders”, sorry “members”, is the regulatory requirements a public offering requires.
Even in the dodgiest third-world countries, a public listing opens up OneCoin management to far more liability and regulatory exposure than an internally controlled Ponzi scheme.
The way Zafar puts it, the IPO has been replaced by the ICO.
If 3.2 million members are looking for the company to make the best decision for them, and if ICO is so popular that it is giving so much to not only company and members, so company had to change from IPO to ICO.
Which is baloney, because from day 1 OneCoin’s marketing pitch has been “invest now, we’re gunna go public in 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018!”
Putting aside the fact OneCoin isn’t a genuine cryptocurrency, an altcoin going public is the ultimate end-goal of an ICO.
So OneCoin effectively launched their ICO when the company itself launched in late 2014.
Left unanswered by Zafar and his gang is what happens to OFC shares OneCoin affiliates have traded in their Ponzi points for.
I imagine the company will generate a script and, as per their database records, reassign the equivalent points affiliates who invested in OFC shares exchanged… but this not being clarified seems odd.
It’s also worth pointing out that earlier this year OneCoin suspended affiliate ROI withdrawals on the pretext that the internal xCoinx exchange was being prepared for the IPO.
If there’s now no IPO, surely affiliates can resume converting their OneCoin Ponzi point into real money?
Like Chinese OneCoin affiliates who by law are required to be refunded, OneCoin affiliates who invested in OFC shares have been left in the dark.
And spare a thought for Chinese OneCoin affiliates who also invested in OFC shares; in less than 24 hours they’ve been double-Ruja’d.
Where’s the source for this? YouTube? Facebook? OneCoin press release?
I don’t doubt that Oz checked the story but the Donkeys out there won’t accept BehindMLM as the sole source.
@Otto- RE” “The Source” – Souhail Choudhury’s Facebook page is one Source of the video with Zafar and a bunch of donut heads yapping about it.
m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10214819937319960&id=1471905195
Yeah, I just noticed it in Zafar’s YouTube channel too.
Link to Zafar announcing this on his youtube channel: (Ozedit: Account terminated so link removed)
uh, the donut heads seemed a bit despondent looking to me. i didn’t notice any joie de vivre, but only some forced sounding statements about – hey hey hey, everything’s fine!
muhammad zafar was trying hard to put a happy face on it, but all i got was 🙁
so, donuts said onecoin has a five story office in sofia bulgaria which they were thrilled to visit, yet they recorded their report in a restaurant somewhere?
a five story office would definitely have at least one conference room where said donuts could have sat around the table saying – here we are in onecoin’s office and its all so dandy!!
also, they didn’t gather around pierre arens and click smiley photos?
hmmmmm, methinks they didn’t get a very warm reception at onecoin and were ushered out in a hurry!
and, zafar should know his place in ruja’s grand pecking order by now.
he’s a tiddly piddly NOBODY to her.
she wont even bother meeting him. and the poor sod travels the world for her, getting money from nigeria and pakistan and where-all, putting his neck at risk everywhere. tsk tsk.
Source was Zafar’s Facebook.
I didn’t embed the video because 0.05% of it is informational, the rest is cringe self-indulgence out the wazoo.
Haha. This even blows Chris “i-never-got-paid-by-Onecoin-or-Ms.-Ruja-Ignatova” Principe’s awkward on-stage Q&A describing his interpretation of what are OFC’s (directly conflicting what the now worthless Onecoin OFC Terms of Service and website says itself).
Last week, at the 3 day Event in Phu Quoc, Vietnam (while splitting time giving some of the same presentations at a WCM Event [paid?/ unpaid?]) he even compares Onecoin, the KleptoCurrency’s price, to the price of a General Electric refrigerator before and after GE goes to the stock market (fridge price stayed the same in his cute little analogy). And for what? Lol.
Principe in Vietnam, on-stage panel discussion Q&A, next to Black Diamond Simon Le (translator) and convicted ponzi felon, Tom “Ocean,” who agreed with everything and promised great riches after the biggest “crowd funding campaign” to go public in the world, ad nauseam: youtu.be/tEBZHc3NFZc
Chris Principe re-assuring everyone at 2:55.
the IPO or the ICO or the listing of onecoin on a public exchange, or whatever the frig was being promised by ruja since 2014, has moved from the second quarter of 2018 to third quarter, and now to the fourth quarter of 2018.
this isn’t going down well with onecoin investors who never thought they would have to wait endlessly to become billionaires:
also, why has this news about the IPO being dumped been released through zafar?
a five story five star office doesn’t have corporate staff to formally inform investors of its ever changing plans?
y’know, they can drop IPO for ICO and drop ICO for investing in nuclear warheads or hollywood, but why make your top performing lapdogs like zafar the bearer of bad news too?
this is really like abuse of top level affiliates like zafar, who would lie down and die for his rujamama. no zafar??
What do you think happens to the Zafars who have been selling Ponzi lies for years if they drop the facade now?
His troop will have his head on a pike for starters…
Sunk cost fallacy. “Already got my money in, may as well ride it out.”
Here’s Ruja’s talk from Macau 2017:
a href=”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAzB_AO68To
at around 10:14 she tells that if you want to make profit, you should convert your onecoins to OFCs..
And before of that, they told onecoin would have gone public at 60 than 80% of the old blockchain mined!
As they wanted to sell education packages to me in January 2016, they told me that i would get my money back in 3 to 6 months!
But some people who invested at the same time, and I assume they were told the same, still believe in it! So I can understand why there is still life in onelife, some people trust in this “investment” like in God and it seems so that they are a lot!
ONE MILLION MERCHANTS!
ONE MILLION MERCHANTS!
ONE MILLION MERCHANTS!
WhistleBlowerFin:at around 10:14 she tells that if you want to make profit, you should convert your onecoins to OFCs..
We all remember that very well..
What will she come up with next?IF
Hope she really feels the worlds breathing down her neck, though i doubt it.Too much goose.
Why on earth would a real Company arrange for some marginalised Salesman along with similar others (like juicy joy) make a statement of such consequence from a local restaurant?
So no IPO but ICO in October 2018 as ZAFAR has told us. Where was Arens and why has he disassociated himself from this statement.
Ruja on the run?
Where is the official statement and maybe we should have another Ask Ruja session following the transparency of the last one a few weeks ago.
Remember you are not an investor ,their is no value ,we are not a MLM Company, WE ARE NOT PUMP AND DUMP (HONESTLY).TYou are just independent marketing affiliates who badly need educating.
ZAFAR -TIME TO START PLANNING YOUR ESCAPE ROUTE AND WITHDRAWAL
Remember China has just effectively cancelled ICOs as the preferred choice of money laundering pyramid schemes so I assume that is a big problem for all the Chinese Investors.
I also therefore assume that no other country in the area will host the launch(of whatever is launched) -other than possibly North Korea.
Watch out for lots of deserting and defections now particularly in UK where most of the team on Zafar’s video came from.
By the way is Investing in OnCoin Sharia Compliant and if not all these individuals may not get to heaven -after their period in jail. If it is compliant waht are they saying about ICOs
Zafar –PRACTISING ONECOIN INTERRUPTUS-!!!-AND ON VIDEO
HAHA, dont worry guys…
KARI IS YOUR FUTURE BRIGHTER!
Take a video of you crashing and burning in Birmingham and do let us know where you are giving your presentation.
Moi if you find out where the Birmingham big general event is scheduled please let us know. This weekend seems to be for the apostles.
Wow the full picture of success concept -happy Sunday.
https://behindmlm.com/companies/onecoin/onecoin-under-criminal-investigation-in-finland-prosecutors-involved/#comment-387147
^see my comment from sep 1. I knew this was coming. They are too easy to predict.
So now we are going forward with an ICO. Initial coin offering before they “go public” with an alt-shitcoin.
cryptokill
A question to Zafar fb.Know wbout it?
Paul Browne · 7:52 When are you coming to Ireland in the next 2 weeks there is a huge event in Ireland and there will be lots of people at this event into rested in deals shaker and one life one coin who is going to come to Ireland on the 19th 20 21 of this month
Wahlroos has got the info about Birmingham, but does not reveal it just jet.We will see.
@Moi
Thanks for the possible heads up on this and as you gt further detail please advise..
In the meantime I will share withe community. the following story. I will leave you to decide how hypothetical it might be.
In mid 2015 after months of pestering I decide to buy a minimum number of packages and am amazed to see some other Affiliates paying cash for 2 tycoons for 10000 Euros . No mention is made of Education but only slits ,returns and coin price increases.
2 After a few months it is apparent that two tycoons actually buys you two sets of the 5 levels of plagiarised education materials(for which copyright has not apparently been paid)
So we get free tokens which are “mined”.
A question that popped up in MuroBBS:
Since all the coins are (according to OneLife) mined “by the members, for the members” and OneCoin “is not pre-mined cryptocurrency” – what coins are they going to hand out in ICO?
(Yes Ruja can add any arbitrary amount of coins to the total whenever she wishes, but how are these two stories (ICO and not pre-mined) supposed to fit together?
@Moi
Thanks for the possible heads up on this and as you gt further detail please advise..
In the meantime I will share withe community. the following story. I will leave you to decide how hypothetical it might be.
In mid 2015 after months of pestering I decide to buy a minimum number of packages and am amazed to see some other Affiliates paying cash for 2 tycoons for 10000 Euros . No mention is made of Education but only slits ,returns and coin price increases.
2 After a few months it is apparent that two tycoons actually buys you two sets of the 5 levels of plagiarised education materials(for which copyright has not apparently been paid).
So we get free tokens which are”mined” somewhere in some dark hot warehouse in hot Hong Kong where commercial buildings are very expensive.
These turn into Coins (backed by Aurum gold no less in Dubai) and they are split and increase in notional value even for the passives who didn’t bring in new recruits . Those who do of course have covered their “investment” and keep on eulogising the benefits of OneCoin.
Affiliates start to ask why is the exchange down ,why is kyc taking so long ,why cant we get our money back and are advised to put their coins into in OneSafe where you get 12-14% interest(In coins of course if you lock it in for 24 months or so!!
Anyone who asks how can I get my money out? is told by Peter Shaw that they are “either idiots or were abused as children”.
Noe we are about to be asked to buy ICO TOKENS (again) and these presumably will either need to be purchased through Ethereum or Bitcois -which have value rather than the spurious 15.85 Euros notional; advertised last week.
Or are they going ton accept the Coins you have already paid for at an inflated value and then see what thE secondary market offers for them?
Am looking forward to these answers from Kari in London this weekend and suspect he will be not be wearing dark glasses this weekend as there will be no light shone on this future of payments.
Finally if any of you active OneCoiners signed into OneSafe forjust 1 year have you got your interest back and have you been able to access the money and pay your taxes.
Just imagine how you will present this in Court when you end up there –I guess you didn’t get te right education in those 5 levels so why not buy 6 -8 when they come out and you may be enlightened.
@Otto
OneCoin just generate the points on demand. They don’t need to have any legitimacy until they go public (ie. never).
Who is this scammer Zafar? He does’nt even know what is ICO and IPO.
Onecoin already done her ICO why have to change from IPO to ICO? IPO is onecoin moves to the next level of explosive growth. Ultimately this is one reason why competitors are jealous.
ORLY? Where can I, as a member of the general public, obtain OneCoin cryptocurrency?
The only way to obtain OneCoin since 2014 has been through tokens, issued by OneCoin. That makes them worthless Ponzi points, which OneCoin affiliates can do nothing with except shuffle them around between themselves.
OneCoin needs to learn -not to educate.
I guess quite a few of us have been looking up the differences between an ICO and an IPO.
Firstly,the purpose of an IPO is to raise funds to start a venture or to fund a major new investment. Having collected 5 billion Euro from Investors so far why is this necessary?
Could it be because they have run out of money and have appreciated that with their capitalisation approaching a quarter of a trillion Euros(yes trillion) their liabilities far outweigh their assets.
On the Onelife newsletter they rightly identify-“But this crowdfundng method raises a lot of questions ,starting with is an ICO sold via a token a security (regulation, regulation).
Additionally the ease of raising gobs of money based on a white paper peppered with the words blockchain and tokens has led to numerous scams (Forbes 2017″).
With respect to regulation ICOs have no legal definition (actually very very little) and ICO Investors are not protected by law-we already know the choice of OneCoin to avoid America so that is not going to change.
Projects are now expressly avoiding the United State sin their Terms and Conditions.
As One Coin go on to say ” these tokens do not necessarily represent equity or shares in the Company–in fact most do not as they are intended to avoid regulation and classification as Securities”. So that is what Mohammed Zahar means by “”more popular””.
OneCoin states” the virtual coins are referred to as tokens that in reality resemble a share of the return on the platform in the form of cryptography guaranteed equity–actually they confirm they have no value in their pre prospectus . Zahar may resemble someone who is talking out of his arse but that doesn’t actually make him a horse’s arse.
Such ICO’s will publish a paper which identifies their proposal their business model,the team, the vision and expected future growth and these details are shred in what is termed a White Paper (remember the ludicrous launch of the Blockchain mark 3 White Paper by Arens at Macau -by the way Marcellas or whatever his name has jumped ship from his previous Company who conducted the research so presumably either he or they are no longer covered by the NDA!.
The Project Founders can actually write anything they want in their white papers. They often omit -whether intentionally or not, information that is important for Investors to judge the projects legitimacy.
I will leave you to reflect on your due diligence and point out that ICO’s are all about Investment and not education -so that has yet again blown that particular myth out of the water -or as OneCOin say the financial ecosystem.
Fundings of ICO’s are strictly managed through cryptocurrency which has no identity requirement(KYC) which allows ICO’s to mostly operate in an unregulated space because they are not restricted by any laws of jurisdiction.
How OC will deal with your identities and their exposure is unknown but it does mean that the whole world of jurisdiction will be open to them when the Authorities knock on the 5 story office in Sofia which so impressed Zahar and his apostles on his video. What a bunch of challenged half wits.
this sounds like defending counterfeit money against real notes calling himself “competitor” … hmm that just does not sound right to me!
Continued
The White Paper will show a as proof of concept working prototype although some Company’s do not bother (OC?).
the Tokens are then opened to the market with the usual razzamatazz (Kari will be on cloud 10!) with defined pricing mechanisms, limited time periods (presumably with a cooling off period?) and the market then goes public thorough some secondary exchange -god knows how xcoincx fits in to this given its morbidity and useless reputation and whether your cryptocurrency will be OneCoin to purchase the tokens or not will no doubt be in the White Paper.
As soon as the ICO is over and after a grace period which should be defined (?) the company has secured x amount of funds for y amount of tokens.
These digital tokens are available to trade and exchange on secondary markets where Initial Investors and Traders who missed the ICO are free to participate – but are presumably charged onerously for the transactions –a la Dealshaker terms or similar.
sO I hope this has given you an initial insight to ICO’s and you can study this for yourself although i am sure many of you will be able to elaborate on this channel.
In this context you might like review some scammers youtube (Mr Ripon) which was published from the UK yesterday.
youtube.com/watch?v=mif0RQKbwYU
It has the advantage that it follows the KISS principle -Keep It simple and STUPID He does however clearly indicate that “THERE ARE SOME ISSUES ABOUT NOT DOING AN IPO -BUT DUE TO SOME REASONS THEY ARE NOT LETTING ME KNOW” .
Perhaps a number of you might let him know.
As Zahar states in his video–We can’t ignore the fact that the Company has to protect the interests of all it’s leaders–oops -about 5 mins in.
Hope this was helpful before OC confuse it a bit more -hopefully someone will video Kari making it clear in London over the next couple of days.
Next weekend in Birmingham should be a disaster and it is about time these leaders were put on the rack of transparency -an apparent core value of the scam.
Remember, OC sold their office building some time back. So they are just renting office space in the building.
I would have liked to have seen the building to see if it was the one they bought for their offices and did the big party video celebrating of buying the building purchase.
And yes, it was too funny to see them in a restaurant instead of in the offices doing this video, and also without Pierre telling this exciting news (cough, cough).
“Hey everybody! On October 2081 (or whenever) you can ALL “sell your coins!”
(Presumably for €15.85, or by then €35 or €100, etc, depending on the invented price at that time).
Duo now you have 3.2M members excited to sell their “coin” to non-members of the exclusive club.
Does anyone else see a MASSIVE “sell wall” to an open public (aka: non “club members”) who don’t give a shit about this “club coin?”
Imagine an alleged 3.2M members who suddenly, after YEARS, can “sell” their shit coin? You suddenly have a MASSIVE “sell wall,” with ….what buyers?
INSTANT CRASH! Just as planned!!
I especially loved the part where he said that in six months there would be 42,000 merchants and 10 Million products sold. So much for there supposed to being 1 million merchants by now.
Can’t wait until next month to see what BS story they come up with next. The wheels are coming off the bus, and the OC members are totally oblivious it is happening. Crap is about to hit the fan.
@LYNN
I am worried about that cough of yours =POST 30.–you need to get it seen to-maybe Dealshaker medicine -Make it 10 million and one products and 42001 merchants.
End of KRAKATOVA.
I guess IPO “expert” Dr. Eva Porras is out of a job now?
Fun to watch this finally going down. Getting cold beer and popcorn ready….
Eh, 10 million deal coupons sold and 260k individual users who have ever logged in to DealShaker. Would mean that every single user who ever logged in has bought on average over 38 coupons.
Very believable lol…
I hope some real tough justice warrior will ever study all these valuable comments one day and then decide to do the right thing, at the right moment.
(i.e. today)
WTH?
They have 43 110 “registered businesses” RIGHT NOW, according to the DealShaker website.
Is he forecasting over 1 000 merchants will cancel their account within next 6 months?
inspite of zafar and team’s extreme happiness in sophia, upon learning that the IPO was cancelled and the ICO was delayed, some emotionally stable affiliates have been raising logical questions:
the general gist of zafar and his flunkies response to these questions are have patience, wait, stop complaining, get off your ass and sell packages.
actually, i think i know why zafar and party are sooo happy! these delays give them more time to scam. if onecoin went public today, their scam career would be instantly over wouldn’t it? they want the golden goose live as long as possible.
@anjali
True. Or until the globally concerted arrest sweep, at least.
But, I just thought about something though. Many victims are still unaware of a single arrest aside from India since ALL News and international warnings, criminal investigations and Cease and Desist orders, etc., have been “fakenews” according to the company and Top Leaders.
What many of these victims still believe(d) up til this point was:
1. >3.2M members
2. That ShakyDealer had “real” merchants
3. That Onecoin has the fastest “blockchain” in the world – faster transactions than Visa & MC
4. That their X0,000 coins were worth €15.85 each
5. And that the company was bigger than Apple, Wal-Mart and The Federal Reserve, combined.
So, taking away the option to “own shares” via OFC’s (Offer of Future Confusion) means that they could no longer “own a piece of the fastest growing company on earth” – which Ruja suggested was the best way to long-term profit.
So, they’ve just had that taken away, and now it sounds like many are beginning to question everything (I can’t see how anyone can’t SEE THROUGH the Zafar minions “money dance” for what it really is).
Even as fast back as the beginning of this year, there were allegations and rumours that Juha Parhiala was overheard saying to another top leader, “milk it while you can.”
About this:
Do you think Ruja and Pierre will step up and say that all that Zafar said was just one uninformed IMA speaking and it does not reflect the plans of the company? 😉
all disaffected in the UK should complain to the city of London Police that they have been a victim of a pyramid selling scheme and wish to identify their leader who persuaded them to join an investment which is a fraud.
Confirm whether or not you were told you were only buying education and whether you were give access to the terms and conditions pre sale,were advised about a cooling off period etc etc
Keeping quiet achieves nothing-it doesn’t make you a good boy/girl nor does it allow you hope when there is only desperation out there–and a lot more to come.
If you don’t complain you are one of the perpetrators and will be found.
The taxman and vat office will crawl all over you.
under Shariah law if you are duped by one of the elders (leaders) what does your faith and Islam oblige you to do. Get your Imans to tell you what this means for your souls
not sure what happens to the duped, but i’d wager the duping elders could face some heavy reduction in the number of virgins assigned in the afterlife.
doomed to a boring lifeafterdeath.
a bit like Romford then where Onelifeife apparently has an office
I correct to my previous, I checked the video and Zafar says the Dealshaker platform has over 42,000 merchants (and 1 million sold coupons) now – 6 months after launch. That’s what he’s after.
Of course he forgets the fact that the 42,000 merchants barrier was reached 7 months and 15 days after launch (we’re now at 8 months), but who’s counting? 😀
What comes to the 10,000,000 sold coupons, it’s quite an achievement in many ways:
– Every single user who ever logged in has bought on average over 38 coupons (like WhistleBlowerFin noted at comment #35).
– Not everyone of those 42,000 merchants who ever registered have put up a deal for sale – about 1,000 merchants to 3,000 merchants (tops) have done so. That’ll mean average merchant has sold 3,333 to 10,000 products within the last 8 months!
KARI IN LONDON?
Anyone know whether Kari turned up in the two venues in London over the weekend and any video or other feedback. He is certainly running around -like a headless eagle -remember we are the chickens -cluck cluck
UKs ICO Warning!
reuters.com/article/us-britain-bitcoin-regulator/uk-watchdog-crypto-fundraising-warning-welcomed-by-industry-idUSKCN1BN0YJ
OMG! The VILLAINS are now implementing new “buzz words” like “Smart Contracts!!”
FLYER: twitter.com/tfeanny/status/907752321869901825
This now makes me very angry at the levels to which they have stooped! Unbelievable!
@Timothy Curry
FWIW, that banner is against OneLife T&C that clearly state each and every marketing material needs to use OneLife logo as described in their compliance package.
They have the OneLife text on their own gold font. So these pimps are not in the system deep enough we could blame OneCoin, blame those two pimps.
i looked at the newsletter issued earlier this week and was disgusted that OneCoin have published as part of their OneWorld Foundation a free ebook entitled “The Adventures of Super Ted” aiming to provide FREE EDUCATIONAL EDUCATION FOR CHILDREN.
Well I presume they don’t have to provide KYC and are not investors. Can anyone check whether it has been plagiarised and we will advise the Author/Publisher.
What kind of sick delusional sociopath does that –Arens,Ruja and Greenwood. Sick bastards.
@Otto It’s correct in the top-right corner. Surely OneLife affiliates are allowed to use the word “OneLife” in a sentence without inserting the logo?
It’s a genuine question, because for all I know the word “OneLife” is considered holy by acolytes. Like how you’re not supposed to speak the word “Muhammed” without following it with “Peace be upon him” (and everyone else has to echo you).
Even genuine attempts to describe “Smart Contracts” always make it sound like a solution in search of a problem. Making it tailor-made for cryptocurrency scams – more science to blind them with.
@cryptokill
There is a very well-known Welsh TV series called SuperTed, which was based on a series of children’s books. When I was in primary school they showed us the SuperTed public information film on how to cross the road twice. There was also a Hanna-Barbera remake in the US. So there is a glaring copyright issue.
The creator Mike Young apparently still owns the rights (he was reported to be making a new SuperTed series in 2016 but I can’t tell if it actually came to fruition) so he might be very interested to know there is a billion-euro scam outfit stealing his character’s name.
Where was Pablo Munoz at while all of this was going on?
have contacted the author and publisher for possible copyright infringement and asked for feedback etc. They should have called it the ADVENTURES OF SUPERKARi!!!!
Many of Zafar’s tribe who went over to Sofia commented on the UK training by KARI and all without exception called it “mindblowing”. you could tell the level of dependency that they have on him -it is staggeringly inept.
On the car journey back to Gatwick Zafar identifies his five key facts -although true to manic form Kari keeps interrupting-you will be pleased to learn that OneCoinCoin will be a rocket for the planet in the next 12 months..
Goals so far are in 2017 are 33% of membership planned for year end , only 5% OF Merchants signed up Coin price (not value) needs to climb 33% in 3 months.
PREDICTION -they will hit target 3 cos they make it up as they go along. That is why Kari has to pump up the air miles -the OneWorld is getting smaller (please go to China, India and Pakistan) as it looks as if the UK scammers have no idea what to do to build their shrinking businesses -look at the Alexa ratings and that will really blow your minds.
It will be interesting to see if the various defectors eg Steinkellers ,Juha and Pehr Karlson turn up or whether they ae still keeping silent??
With OneCoin, OneLife, One whatever, you are always waiting one more day, week, year, for one more thing to take place so you can make some real money, but you never get one more dollar!
Nothing, Zilch, Zero and for those in the U.S. there’s not one more hope of anything ever happening to recover any money! Does this spell FRAUD loud can clear?
I personally have some doubts Yet we cannot assume anything about onecoin until we reach 2018. Bitcoin (Ozedit: has nothing to do with OneCoin. Offtopic derail attempts removed.)
What’s so special about 2018? You know OneCoin has been promising to go public since around mid 2015 right?
The money for Ignatova and her backers is recruitment. Gullible idiots sign up and hand over real money, OneCoin pay a percentage out for recruitment and keep the rest (no ROI payouts since January).
Having the coin go public = worthless value of OneCoin exposed and tons of angry investors. Easier to just keep shifting the “going public” goalposts and stringing people along, which is exactly what they’re doing.
RE:
Can you VICTIMS and scammers get it through your thick skulls that comparing dates and time lines is the same as saying your (company) is coming out with the best new cell phone …or whatever …and comparing it to how long it took iPhone to produce a phone/ camera phone 10years ago.
Onecoin, even if it was real, which it isn’t, IS BORING AND NEARLY A DECADE BEHIND. Stop comparing!
Are you going to create a WHEEL and compare your wheel to the first wheel ever??? HELLO! Technology moves at the speed of light! You’re scam sucks even if it were a blockchain coin (which it isn’t). Buzz off!
Clearly Rachid enjoys having a carrot dangled in front of him.
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Just put Sheeple on the left and ICO on the right.
Well i have read all of the comments and the thoughts of all people around the world.
im not a expert of cryptocurrencies but everyone has the right to speak.
i would suggest all to be clam don’t b furry to get rich ASAp. Let Ruja Work on it.
What if we have to wait even 5-10 years more to get rich… she has build the strongest network it can even run without her because if u know what is the Block chain…
Do you know what a blockchain is? OneCoin doesn’t have one.
you aren’t going to get your money back. there is no coin.
Is not it a problem? Providing you’ve stepped into cryptocurrencies business and investment…
Keep on sleeping – sweet dreams! …while your money are being laundered and transferred without a trace to persons behind the scene.
Hallo There,
Your negative news about One Coin is just a Forecast. As what I have heard there are a lots of different Crytocurrency all over the world maybe you are one of them.
How did you know that One Coin is not genuine? It is very clear that you are jealous anyway I understand all of you writing a messed. Of course there is always a reason.
Which Company in span of 2 Years has
3.2 Million Members as fair as I know first time in history only One Coin Company made it okey?
If Dr. Rudjah posponed everything what is your problem. If you have Investment in this company just simple ask Dr. Rudjah and she smartly answered you.
Why you can’t wait and whatever happend you must accept always the reality anyway when we are dead we can’t bring any single Cent from our money.
If God’s well we become. rich then that is our destinations and luck. Think always positive and pray for success for the company If you are one of the Investor in One Coin.
If in case you are from the other Kryptocurrency please make your own success One Coin will not bother you I will pray for your success also.
Or maybe you want to join our success you are very welcome to join.
No need to write against Dr. Rudjah because everybody knows she is trying hard to make the Company become successful and whatever doubts from all of us she is always there to answer the question.
Our One Coin Supprt is always ready to help whatever problem we had. More Blessings to us.
^^ Hello there newly recruited OneCoin affiliate.
There’s nothing to forecast. OneCoin’s business model isn’t a secret. Nor is the fact the company has nothing to do with cryptocurrency.
Using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors = Ponzi fraud.
Paying affiliates to recruit new affiliates in MLM = pyramid fraud.
These are the facts.
If God exists, I can guarantee he or she doesn’t want you getting rich by ripping people off through financial fraud.
As for Ignatova, the only thing she’s done is convince a few million email addresses to hand over money to enrich herself, her family and her associates.
Ignatova has also never addressed OneCoin’s Ponzi/pyramid hybrid business model.
Finland country director has confirmed in FB that IPO has been dropped.
The news are that OFCs (bought with OneCoins) will not be refunded but instead they will be exchanged to OneCoins in ICO. (Sense?)
The company is supposed to tell more about this soon.
Source: i.imgsafe.org/5a/5a87f846c0.png
Per MuroBBS: Excellent video production of an ACTUAL Black Market Onecoin *Exchange which both buys and sells the ponzi points “at production cost,” which is on average 2.5 euro cents.
I’m guessing Sellers only option is to sell their entire account along with passwords and everything.
Although, it’s likely possible to hide such a transaction on DealShitter by listing worthless items for super expensive prices, and all in ONE’s (or undeliverable high-ticket items) while negotiating offline payments between seller/ buyer.
Source of 2.5 euro cent exchange: youtube.com/watch?v=TbfHBEWwxTg&feature=youtu.be
So, to use these guys you are either a.) a self-acknowledged victim desperate for any opportunity to escape and recover as much of initial investment as possible.
Or, b.) a still naive “crypto-investor” who thinks the price of “air” and Excel db transfers is a bargain at this rate. Lol.
The Exchange service appears to have made quite a market for themselves and accepts various payment methods, including some real crypto’s.
As long as there are still both victims and believers they can charge a margin in real money. I mean, what do they care?
Ps. According to “Fantos” on Muro,
I read all the negative comments with amusement.If you invested in OneCoin and converted OFCs at 1 ONE =200 OFCs then at ICO these are converted back to coins, you double the your original investment.
Worthless points you can’t convert into real money doubled are still worthless points you can’t convert into real money.
WORDS FROM THE ANOINTED:
So the believers choose to deny the persistent negative information about OneCoin which has become more and more evident to confirm the pyramid /ponzi, failed IPO, dodgy ICO, shell company, worthless investment,plagiarised education,discounted gift codes,tax evasive ,money laundering innovation.
Ruja -you may well be a genius after all–BUT PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE ME ON THAT!
start defecting boys if you haven’t already done so . I wonder what this Christmas message will be from Ruja -apart from the coin has magically gone up to 25 Euros–from savings deriving from closing the Sofia office and running the business from a yacht??
Mind you I am using a brain not a crystal ball.
UN FUCKING -BELIEVABLE!
Except at the rate it’s changed and delayed, it’s “always next year” (i.e. NEVER)
Errmm… And you know how may OFC’s to be issued?
…of course not. Lol
RE: IPO being “cancelled.”
Onecoin critics have been insisting the IPO would never happen, for the past …since the lie dropped from Ruja’s lips. OneCULTists, on the other hand accept the spoon-fed ICO bait-and-switch that easily?
Was a great stall tactic Ruja took to drag the dream along for so long.
Maybe Ruja’s had a scheduled meeting with the late Jimmy Hoffa?
Sir now the world top 2 companies is always Marge how possible onecoin and Bitcoin marge
How is Onecoin even a company – Bitcoin doesn’t need any help.
Let Onecoin continue to sink like it should!
Why would Bitcoin want anything to do with a bunch of recruiting scammers? That’s what OC is you know. It has nothing to do with cryptocurrency.
The merger you will see is the OneCoin scammers/affiliates jumping to other network marketing scams as this is what the business is really about. In fact and just to prove the point, this has already happened with many of them.
I just bought some one coin. did I make the right choice?
If and when it goes public, if you need cash, DON’T sell your coins for cash, use your coins to buy a car or a house, then sell them for cash. It’s not rocket science.
selling your coins for cash is just DUMB! Because that’s what happened with BitCoin, people dumped their coins for cash and caused huge fluctuations. Up to USD 19,000 per coin one day and down to USD 8,000 a few weeks later.
No company wants to accept BitCoin because of this. This can work if you use your brains, and don’t panic.
But 99.99% of affiliates will, because “lol plz give me more for my OneCoin points than I paid for them” is the only reason they invested in the first place.
Actually it’s the opposite. Pretending a legitimate third-party merchant company is going to want to have anything to do with Ponzi points distinctly requires a lack of brain function.
If merchants want a centrally controlled and relatively stable currency to do business in, that already exists. It’s called actual money.
Not some investment opportunity cooked up by crooks wanting to get Ponzi rich.
@Brian
Yeah. Funny how the 2nd all-time historic high bitcoin price (~$17K around) and subsequent FUD dump coincided and began almost exactly with Bitconnects ATH between January 6th ($431.79), and scam exit fallout within just 10 days (to $35.22).
Compare January 7th, 2017 HERE
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Bitconnect chart: NOLINK:coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitconnect/
Scams like Bitconnect, USI Tech and Onecoin play(ed) a serious role in market perception and fear amongst the general public, who are new, often more wary, and certainly less familiar with what cryptocurrencies and their underlying “blockchain” technology even are.
Despite nearly EVERY vetted crypto enthusiast taunting, warning, and shaming idiot investors about Bitconnect being a clear and obvious Ponzi scam; and likewise, Bitconnect idiot victims defending their scam (calling critics “hatters,” INDENTICALLY TO WHAT ONECOIN IDIOTS CONTINUE TO DO TO THIS DAY; the lazy, greedy suckers tend to stick around, still fighting, until the very end.
Now, naive and brainwashed OneCULT sect disciples are at the same crossroads – more recently pointing the finger at bitcoin’s market decline (beginning on the same dates mentioned above) as “bitcoin being a manipulated and untrustworthy market,” etc., with complete cognitive dissonance that BIG SCAMS frightened the markets and significantly contributed to not only their own $5B losses (in the case of Bitconnect), but led to the several HUNDRED BILLION in losses, taking down the rest of the market (including real technology projects) with them.
I’m not saying that Bitconnect soley “caused” the total coinmarketcap to be quartered over the past year, but anyone thinking that these scams didn’t majorly contribute to both this and hyper-regulation is simply out-to-lunch.
So, this is one reason why many of us in the crypto space still assertively fight to expose the idiots and a-holes leading Onecoin and these other scams.
@Brian
That’s the best joke I read in 2018. 😀 Do buyers of Ruja’s worthless educational packages use a brain? If so, buy a new brain on DealShitter as soon as possible, but please one that works well!