JM Ocean Avenue gutted? Four executives resign.
Despite affiliates advertising HopRocket as a “brand new JM Ocean Avenue opportunity” as early as last month, we thought it odd that there was no official tie in or promotion on the JM Ocean Avenue website.
Fred Ninow was listed as the owner of the HopRocket website domain yet, despite his obvious involvement in JM Ocean Avenue, Ninow was not listed as management on their website.
Following a recently discovered notice dated July 1st, we can now reveal Ninow and a bunch of JM Ocean Avenue staff have resigned.
HopRocket apparently has nothing to do with JM Ocean Avenue. Well, at least not officially…
At the heart of the controversial HopRocket launch is the importation of the entire JM Ocean Avenue affiliate-base.
According to HopRocket affiliate David Hull, current and former JM Ocean Avenue affiliates have been automatically imported into HopRocket, without any prior consent whatsoever.
The ENTIRE downline of JM Ocean Avenue was moved over into HopRocket (with the permission of JMOA) with ALL of our downline intact. This includes those who had left JMOA a long time ago.
You signed up as a JM Ocean Avenue affiliate six month ago and quit? Too bad, corporate didn’t delete your information and instead have used it to create a HopRocket affiliate position for you.
And here’s a copy of the unsolicited HopRocket spam you’re now likely to receive (if you haven’t already):
Just in case you can’t read it – the footer of that email is copyrighted JM Ocean Avenue, with the reason for the email being sent out as follows:
Copyright © 2015 JM Ocean Avenue, All rights reserved.
You are receiving this email because you have signed up as an JM Ocean Avenue Distributor or Wholesale Customer.
If you wish to change your email preferences with JM Ocean Avenue please login to your myjmoa office account and deselect the box stating, “I want to receive email communications related to my business.”
If I’m interpreting that message correctly, HopRocket spam is or was being sent out using JM Ocean Avenue owned services – directly to past and present JM Ocean Avenue affiliates and customers.
At present I don’t have a date on the above HopRocket spam email, but I can share a message from JM Ocean Avenue corporate dated the 1st of July:
Effective from today, Mr. Timothy James Richerson (Tim Richerson), Mr. Frederick Paul Ninow (Fred Ninow), Mr. Gregory Charles Bam (Tuffy Baum) and Ms. Sung Shiang Chun (Elsa Sung) resigned from all positions from JM Ocean Avenue and no longer service in JM Ocean Avenue nor any of its branch nor shareholding companies.
(Their) personal or business conduct only represents themselves and have (sic) no relationship with JM Ocean Avenue.
JM Ocean Avenue North America office will relocate and move to Los Angeles in the near future and an appropriate and professional business transition is currently underway.
So who sent out the HopRocket spam email from JM Ocean Avenue’s very own email system then?!
And here’s where things get even more bizarre!
According to a followup July 3rd email from JM Ocean Avenue corporate:
Yesterday’s email was a necessary legal requirement as our previous Utah staff moved on to a new venture. We wish them well
While this transition is on the way, JMOA remains open for business in North America, Europe and the rest of the world.
Our customer service number is fully operational with our most knowledgeable agents manning the phone lines.
Importantly, commission payments, IT processes and other day-to-day responsibilities will continue uninterrupted.
JMOA itself continues to be a strong, stable company and holds a position as the 10th largest direct sales company in the world.
Lastly, we are well on our way to establishing a new, experienced Corporate Team to support you.
Rest assured that we fully support our Distributors and look forward to your continued partnership.
Wait wait wait, hold up.
You abruptly lose four of your US-based executives (who from what I can tell were pretty much running the company), you have to relocate your US headquarters giving off the impression you were totally caught by surprise, the JM Ocean Avenue affiliate-base is being openly raided using JM Ocean Avenue’s own systems… and you think JM Ocean Avenue is a “strong stable company”…
…HOW?
And going forward what, are JM Ocean Avenue affiliates going to also be in HopRocket despite HopRocket having nothing to do with JM Ocean Avenue?
Cross-recruiting minefield anyone?
Call me cynical, but I’m pretty sure this isn’t how you go about running a successful MLM business opportunity. Ditto HopRocket management, what on Earth are you guys doing???
If anyone’s in the know and wants to have a crack at explaining all of this to me, feel free to do so in the comments below.
Otherwise, what a bloody mess this is turning out to be!
i’m not ‘in the know’ but i ‘feel’ this is all a farce about JM ocean avenue losing its management to hoprocket.
JMOA was founded by fred ninow, ken dunn and tuffy baum.
ken dunn left in mid 2014, which leaves ninow and baum at the helm of JMOA.
now, ninow and baum have both resigned, so who in the world is the current owner//runner of JMOA? the emails do not mention who is running JMOA currently, as the um, Founders Have Left?
in my opinion this is just a ‘new way’ of walking out of a collapsed pyramid and starting a new one.
in a few weeks time we’ll find JMOA has not got any new ‘corporate staff’ that can run things, and will wind down. they have already announced the office is ‘shifting’, god knows whether a new office will actually be acquired.
and obviously oz, ninow and baum must have sat down, scotch in hand, to send out the HopRocket spam email from JM Ocean Avenue’s very own email system.
i mean if the founders of JMOA don’t have access to the email systems , who will?
Most of these programs have a clause in their TOS, or whatever they call it, that states they can “sell, or transfer” the membership database to anyone they choose at any time, and the members cannot object or have a say in their data being sold or transferred. It is part of the template when they buy the script to launch their program.
In addition, all the “insiders” have a copy of the membership database. It’s how they recruit for their next MLM or MLM wannabe program.
If all the founders of Ocean Avenue have left to form Hop Rocket, then they will just use this clause to justify their Emailing the membership. Just my two cents worth.
@Lynn
Surely when you quit as an affiliate and go inactive and/or close down your account you’re no longer bound by the affiliate TOS?
Blasting out HopRocket spam emails to ex-JM Ocean Avenue affiliates and customers is too seedy IMO.
You don’t have a choice when it comes to your membership information. It is up to the admin of the program to do with the database as they wish.
Just because you left does not mean that you can say you don’t want your membership information sold to anyone. You gave up the right when you joined the program and accepted their terms and conditions/terms of service.
It’s why people should really should read the TAC/TOS very carefully before joining anything.
Everything else you are no longer bound to of the program, but the membership database can be given/sold to anyone the admin chooses, whether they resign, leave or whatever they do.
Well in that case I’d bring up marketing ethics. I shouldn’t have to… but here we are.
Wasnt Ocean Avenue another one of Troy Dooley’s favorites? I think he was actually an affiliate with this one was he not?
Poor guy. Why does everything he endorse wind up turning to crap?
everything is his favorite when the check clears.
Im not sure why someone would write an article without knowing the facts.
Does it really matter how, or why Hop rocket was created? Its obvious you have know idea or knowledge of JMOA and their corporate team.
Yup. The foundation of an opportunity sets the stage for years to come. And HopRocket’s foundation appears to be quite suspect.
Re. JM Ocean Avenue, why all the secrecy? You could have shared the information re. corporate but you didn’t.
Nothing suss…
How someone can write such an inaccurate article is quite laughable.
I have been through the whole episode and know the facts and you my friend are way off the mark.
Are JM Ocean Avenue affiliates forbidden from discussing the company?
Y’all come off as salty cultists sworn to secrecy…
@ joe smith, dottie lotto
it is Not a Good Argument to wade in here saying ‘you have no idea’ or ‘ you are inaccurate’.
instead you should correct the information you find wrong or inaccurate.
who is running JMOA? can you answer that for starters?
So what’s inaccurate about it? If you can’t name it, then what does that make you? Random “surf-by” accuser?
OK JM International did a take over of Ocean Avenue back in 2014.
JMOA is part of Joy May who is owned by Joe Zhou, Bruce Fang and Jackie Zhang – JMOA is a $2 Billion company based out of china.
The Ocean Avenue managment stayed after the take over but it was not a happy merger and although Hop Rocket was initially going to be part of JMOA, it was decided that the US team would relinquish their interest in JMOA and everyone in the US office wanted to move to Hop Rocket which soft launched just 1 week ago.
The Search Engine is now in Beta testing and everyone is happy. The Data base issue was done before the agreement to break away from JMOA was done – so that was a timing issue.
Most of the people joining Hop Rocket now have nothing to do with JMOA, so any JMOA people who have not upgraded will be removed from the database. This is my understanding of things – hope this helps to put some meat on the bare bones above.
So those that stayed in JMOA got their entire down lines cross recruited by the former principles of JMOA (Hijacked).
And after reading the Privacy Policies of JMOA, the acting principles of JMOA at the time that data was given to another company, shared, sold, regardless, violating JMOA’s published privacy policy. By doing so, also violated Utah privacy laws.
Illegal, unethical behavior by the principles of the company in my opinion. And you represent this company knowing this?
Shame on you. Obviously, the dollar is mightier than integrity in your company.
You obviously have an agenda which I do not. I am just stating the facts and you seem to want to win instead of accepting how things really are.
I won’t bother to offer any more truth here as its obviously something you don’t want to hear.
@dottie lotto,
why did JMOA ‘give permission’ to shift the Entire Downline to hoprocket? is david hull lying?
You’re stating facts as you know them, except the part you’re speculating to other people’s “agenda”, plus “you don’t want to hear” which is even more speculation.
So you’re NOT just stating the facts. Don’t pretend to be impartial, unless it’s a part of your self-delusion.
You guys just regurgitate whatever corporate feeds you. Have you tried doing some research on your own?
JM International’s real name is 南京中脉科技, which is at jmtop.com.cn, and jmtop.com worldwide. While they do hold a direct sales license in China, they were already accused of running pyramid scheme in China:
news.xinhuanet.com/food/2014-03/12/c_126258262.htm (in Chinese)
Which is about when they merged with OC, isn’t it?
Basically, the company got chased out of China and you guys, who don’t speak the language, are the logical next group of sheeple to get fleeced.
Those obnoxious things called facts and the annoying laws that get violated. Ignorance is not bliss, and it looks like JMOA has exposed themselves to lawsuits as well as criminal violations. This is the Utah law:
blr.com/HR-Employment/HR-Administration/Privacy-in-Utah#
That is just one such possible violation that could be argued. But I am not a lawyer.
Apparently JMOA’s Chinese parent don’t want to acknowledge it’s actually Chinese. There is no link to JM’s Chinese operation at all.
Part of the reason may be news reports that JM’s various “lifestyle centers” selling an undershirt that costs 6510 RMB (which is about 1000 USD) that supposedly has magnets that are good for you.
Even if they sell for 1/10th the price out of China it’s still way too expensive for an under shirt.
NOLINK://amlmskeptic.blogspot.com/2015/08/jm-ocean-avenue-why-did-ocean-avenue.html
Hey K Chang,
According to a friend of mine, involved in JMOA, the reason for no Chinese link yet:
1) By preventing Chinese from building abroad the next few years, distributors in other countries will increase their odds for success.
2) An advantage which disappears when the Chinese are granted the green light for going globally.
Maybe he has been misled?
He stated that because of extreme growth in China the last few years, JMOA is in a position to maybe surpass Amway within five years, by opening offices in about 50 countries.
I’ll just note that what he said is impossible to verify… AND mutually conflicting.
It’s not possible to reconcile “extreme growth in China the last few years” and “preventing Chinese from building abroad” without going into “wait, what?”
The only conclusion that there is no JMOA in China is… they cannot exist in China. JM exist in China, not JMOA. Completely separate entities, and you can see JMOA selling JM stuff already.
Beginning Of The End…..?
123youxi.net/a/view/opinion/2015/0926/771.html
(I used Google translation)
K Chang, I would really appreciate your opinion!
Sorry! Here’s the link: (Ozedit: malware link removed)
@Ben K
I’m getting an Avast malware warning from that link.
@Ben K — that’s reprint of old news from 2014, but chopped up and remixed with other stuff to look new to the search engines. I’m finding a lot of that crap on Chinese websites now.
This is the original source material, dated 19-MAR-2014
NOLINK://jiangsu.sina.com.cn/news/s/2014-03-19/070595102_2.html
Oops, that’s page 2. Here’s page 1
NOLINK://jiangsu.sina.com.cn/news/s/2014-03-19/070595102.html
Okay! Thanks for telling me. I thought it was from this year.
Yeah, but nowadays unless they came from a real news website, it’s not reliable. They’re just randomly copied left and right, and seems Chinese article spammers have discovered the “prose scrambler” way of cheating search engines (i.e. randomly mix up more than one articles to create a new article).
When Ocean Avenue directors & executives resigned over night and decided to take the entire database with them I decided to take action.
I contacted Hop Rocket and warned them that if any of my downline were contacted by them that I would issue legal proceedings against them with effect immediately as they are in breach of the personal data protection act.
I was instantly assured that no such actions would follow nor did they.
If you have been contacted or your name used go legal with them and if you say I can’t afford it then post same here and let’s all get together and sue these miserable pricks for ruining peoples livelihoods.
Shame on everyone of them so called leaders.
I would love to assist, but I can not make it publicly known who I am.
Maybe OZ can send you my email address. I hold a large amount of facts and evidence because of my position in this. They ruined a lot more than personal business with me.
Anyone knows anything else about this jmoa?
No, it has been quiet for a long time. When something new, I will post it here!
hello, i got a friend from hk who just shared jmoa company to me a moment ago. That’s the reason why i tried to google and made some researches till i found this article read some comments etc.
honestly i am interested to join but of course i want to make sure that the company will not vanish like bubbles. I don’t to put my name in a horrible situation if bad things happen especially to the company.
Tnx if someone cld give me some kind of enlightenment.