Options Domination accused of stealing binary signals
DS Domination launched in 2013 and saw the company sell online dropshipping “how-to”guides. This is bundled with an MLM compensation plan.
The guides are sold retail, with an additional $9.95 fee paying for DS Domination affiliate membership.
Late last year word on the grapevine was that DS Domination were looking to branch out into binary options trading.
This was somewhat of an odd announcement as unlike dropshipping, none of DS Domination’s current management appeared to have any history with binary options.
After the initial announcements there has been a series of delays where the launch of Options Domination has repeatedly been pushed back.
Now, as Options Domination gears up for an actual launch, a third-party binary options signals provider is accusing them of theft.
John Anthony claims to have been involved with binary options trading for a few years now and runs the website “JohnAnthonySignals.com”.
[0:03] I’m the owner and creator of JohnAnthonySignals.com.
I launched a signal service for binary options back in August of last year (2014). Since then it’s grown, we feel to be, the number one binary optional signal provider out there.
I’ve been constantly developing my signals since we launched … and I’ve got a really good team behind me.
Last month, Anthony himself published a YouTube video in which he claims Options Domination are stealing his binary signals.
[00:59] So this morning I woke up … and my inbox just completely blew up, with people saying that I needed to take a close look at a company called Options Domination.
There was serious fear and questions that these guys were copying my signals.
In his video, Anthony provides some pretty compelling evidence. Screenshots of his own signal platform and that of Options Domination reveal multiple identical trade recommendations bearing identical timestamps.
The accompanying description on the video provides even more examples:
Here you will hear the guy say… and i quote… “I just took uh screenshot of OUR results from 19th to the 23rd”:
youtu.be/6K0LItIo3t8?t=14m9s
And then take a look at the Filtered Signals on John Anthony Signals on the same date and surprise surprise we have an EXACT match! (comparison below):
prntscr.com/6160zo
MORE WEBINAR PROOF:
prntscr.com/6110mp
HITESH HIMSELF POSTING MY SIGNALS:
prntscr.com/61rb22
We are yet to discover ANY signals that Options Dominator (sic) are using for marketing hype other than the signals they have copied from my binary options service!
For all intents and purposes, it very much appears that Options Domination are simply feeding Anthony’s service into their own backend.
This certainly would explain how a company with no history of binary options trading is all of a sudden able to put together a binary options platform.
Obviously not happy about having his service ripped off by a third-party charging their own fees to access it, Anthony concludes
[5:00] The point that I’m trying to make … (is) that I offer a good honest system and a good honest service, and if you’re thinking about joining a group like Options Domination, I think you need to think about it.
Like seriously think about it, because they’re not this respectable group that they’re posing to be.
Following the publication of Anthony’s video on February 4th, he claims that DS Domination contacted him and confirmed they were indeed “stealing” his signals:
Options Domination have contacted us and said that they only used our signals as a placeholder on their member only website and that it was not available to the public yet, although I managed to sign up, pay and gain access!
Why DS Domination were marketing Anthony’s signals as their own, and why they were doing this whilst accepting new affiliate memberships is unclear.
Despite the company claiming their service was not open to the public yet, Anthony’s video clearly demonstrates otherwise (he signed up and paid Options Domination $49.99 to access his own options signals).
Looking forward, Options Domination have recently announced a launch date of
As you may recall, 72 hours ago we sent you an email eluding to the now famed March 15th.
We know the majority of you have guessed that March 15th meant the launch of Options Domination.
Outside of the reply Options Domination sent to John Anthony I’ve been unable to find an official corporate response on the matter from Options Domination.
Whether they are still copy and pasting John Anthony’s signals or they’re feeding someone elses signals into their system remains to be seen.
Footnote: The John Anthony video referenced in this article is titled “Options Domination Stealing John Anthony Signals!”. It was uploaded to YouTube on February 4th, 2015.
Update 7th February 2018 – As of February 7th, 2018 the YouTube video referenced in this article has been deleted.
Additional video interview with John Anthony on the matter (February 16th).
I find it interesting that in the second video, they make a production while making very serious claims of theft. Yet when asked what he’s to do about it, John says “I’m not really sure what to do about it”.
Does his legal team not know that treaties between the USA and the UK allow for legal action for such claims.
Hey John, if someone is stealing from me, I call the authorities and have them charged accordingly. Maybe the truth is, John does not want them to go away since his business clientele has nearly doubled over the last month since making his claims.
From just over 2k members when John burst onto YouTube with his claims a month ago, to just under 4k members.
At $100 monthly a pop, Johns intake of nearly $400k monthly is no chump change. Looks like making these claims against options domination is the best marketing John has ever done for his business.
Hey Jan, John is doing this for publicity and that’s it…
If it was a serious legal issue, John would have taken them to court period.
Also, Roger (DSD CEO) addressed this in his youtube video and John turned off the comments…
HMMMM….
I wonder what John’s true agenda is lol.
John doesn’t appear to be doing anything.
Did Options Domination steal his binary signals or didn’t they? And if so, now that they’ve been caught out, what are they going to replace it with when they launch on March 15th?
This appears to be a corporate response issued by Options Domination, issued shortly after BehindMLM published this article.
I presume the whitelabel request was brought to the table only after Anthony went live with his accusation.
Also why Anthony (and anybody else) was able to pay Options Domination money and view Anthony’s signals through Options Domiation, when Hitesh is claiming the placeholder stuff never went live, is a mystery.
If you’re charging money for access to something it’s not a placeholder anymore, it’s live.
Guess we’ll have to wait for more info on where Options Domination are now sourcing their signals from. Hopefully this information is provided on the Options Domination website at some point (it currently isn’t).
Fail.
a guy who ‘mentions’ his child’s surgery as an ‘excuse’ to not reply to charges of theft, is an absolute fail.
… what is the connection? where was the need?
shame, hitesh juneja.
I am sounding petty, but it is common practice for scammers invent family/health emergencies when they have to respond to serious questions. This way they can keep their answers way off the point.
I’ve actually used John’s signals. I also saw the trades posted by Hitesh/Jason/Kevin and they are different for sure.
Options Domination never went live and they never charged people at all. John clearly got into their test site somehow and took screenshots from there. Again, I was on DSD webinar where the service was explained and there was NOTHING in common with John’s signals.
John anthony (if that is a real guy and not a pen-name), is just miking this for publicity and nothing else. I will be leaving his service once OD goes live (because his signals are OK at best, but the numbers are manipulated on his site to make it appear win rates are higher).
Further, Options Domination and signaling system were announced WAY before Johnanthony site even existed.
Yeah that’s worse than petty. His son’s cancer treatment has been going on for more than a year. In fact he specifically stated that he didn’t want a big issue made out of his son’s health because he doesn’t want the attention on his family.
Further, did he avoid the topic at all? He addressed every point very plainly and specifically without dodging anything at all.
You’re going after the wrong people here, I’m sure OD will be taking legal actions of their own for JA’s false claims and getting into a test site and presenting that as live.
I’m not the epitome of journalistic integrity that Oz claims he is (lol) but did you even contact their helpdesk and ask about it?
You can just open a ticket and address it to Hitesh and ask for an official response?
lol. yeah. I stopped reading after that. You’re in an ICU but find it necessary to type it some long post on a phone right there and then? Stop it.
Yeah, so when did that happen?
I wouldn’t expect OD helpdesk to know anything about it. This is something OD management were aware of and should have publicly addressed in February.
They didn’t, and that’s on them. It was only after we brought the issue to light that Hitesh issued a public response.
Yet the screenshots Anothony provides tell a different tale…
Some info about cancer story
from
meetcalebwright.com/drop-shipping/ds-domination-convention/
Yes, “superfoods” that cost few $100K that fight cancer. And now that he wasted all his money on “superfoods” he is back to doctors.
He sound like a wizard but not tech wizard. More and more sounds like inspirational backstory to sell this scheme. I do not feel even petty this time.
i am truly sorry about juneja’s son’s illness.
but, if juneja really doesn’t want to make an issue about it, and not draw attention to it , he shouldn’t have ‘done just that’, right?
it’s unprofessional, its sympathy seeking, it’s unparentlike, it’s like ‘barf’.
Yes, he may have a sick son, but he clearly made it part of his back-story to sell DS Domination. Info is way too detailed.
I just want to know what kind of “superfood” cost few $100K in what I assume in 1 or 2 years?
That sounds like health MLM formulas or something. You can eat really really healthy for few $100K for the most of your life.
Only pharmaceutical medications cost that kind of money in short run. But admitting that you treated your kid like everybody else, would not be too appealing to MLM crowd which looks for “miracles”.
As far as I know, binary options sales or trading is illegal in the US of A
The SEC sucessfully prosecuted “Banc de Binary”, a Cyprus-based online binary “brokerage”/gambling site.
Binary options is more akin to gambling than to investing. Nevertheless the SEC considers binary options as unregistered securities sold by unregistered brokers.
See:
sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2013/lr22767.htm
See also:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banc_De_Binary
What in the world!!!!!!! Optionsdomination has never been live. I know that for a fact because I am a beta tester with OD.
No one has an account on Optionsdomination. WOW! John has actually been able to pull a fast one and you have bought hook line and sinker.
Right. I’m sure Anthony just made it all up. He fabricated the whole video he made showing the OD backoffice.
And then Hitesh decided to play along, admitting they used his signals…
Cmon OD drones, if you’re going to comment at least be semi-intelligent about it.
Mr oz, John is a cheat and a liar. A buddy rubbing a buddy’s back. He is the one scamming people with fake signals. You have issues man.
Well, what with the overwhelming evidence you’ve presented…
Oh, wait.
Did Options Domination finally launch on March 15th, or are they still scrambling to better hide the lifting of signals from some other source?
You are his buddy. Ask him why he hasn’t filed a law suit.
So… you’re just making shit up.
Cheers.
So…..OD has launched and not a peep out of John….Let’s see…. signals are different, time frames different, EVERYTHING different. Wow I guess all of you idiots riding John’s crappy signals are looking real stupid right about now aren’t you?
Fact is, John accessed a site that wasn’t even live and acted as if it was. If he truly thought the signals were being stolen he would have sued. Instead? “crickets”….
Oh and by the way OD members pay one THIRD of what JAS members pay for signals. And for the same price as JAS at the second level, OD members get end of day signals (which have higher winning percentages) and live trading sessions as well. Sucks to be a JAS member!
And to the moron who claimed Hitesh having a son in the hospital was some kind of sham, it’s been known for over a year that his son is sick so it’s not like he just “made that up” on the spot. Real classy.
^^ The fact remains though, that OD stole John’s signals and used them to represent Options Domination prior to launch.
This was done without any recognition or permission, and was misleading.
How long till it’s discovered they’re just copy pasting someone elses signals? Do they even state where their signals originate from?
I’m a former JAS member. I remember when the whole deal came out, and Oz, as opposed to what you attempt to show, this all happened nearly 2 months ago, and Hitesh’s response was near instant back then (not prompted by your reporting on this as opposed to your claim).
I took serious issues with JAS because a lot of the signal data was fraudulent, thewin % was never what JAS claimed. I left JAS just about the time this whole controversy happened (unrelated to it of course, I just didn’t have good results).
I didn’t join OD immediately because I was given the impression that heywere just using JAS stuff.
I was recently shown a video where in a webinar Hitesh specifically showed that their signals came from their internal algorithms (showed the signals being generated and backtested live) and also explained that they have a full team of traders contracted to provide additional training/live sessions and so on.
But in this webinar, he was asked to explain the issue with JAS. He showed emails between him and JAS from early January, where he showed the exact same issue with JAS that I had experienced (false entry times and fradulent win rates).
His point was “If we wanted to ‘steal’ signals, why would we grab them from someone whom I already tested, found to be bad, and told them so?”
I was suitably impressed, since he sounds like an actual trader who has experience and knowledge and have since joined OD – something I never got from JAS at all.
So far the signals have performed as expected – around 66-67% per day on average. OD is also extremely clear about their win rates, and go through detailed risk management to ensure we don’t wipe out account on losses.
There is absolutely NOTHING in common with JAS here at all. It is exactly as Hitesh said – JAS went into their non-live site, took a screenshot and claimed they were issuing his signals when they weren’t.
What OD has, they are very clear about – they have their own algos, and contracted traders who issue additional signals. Still waiting on some aspects to go live, but I think you made a bad call on this one Oz. JAS is a scam service, and this was a ploy to get traffic by targeting a more popular service that wasn’t even live.
One more point I couldn’t help but notice – you assume that OD MUST be copying someone else’s signals. Yet you never raise this question with JAS at all.
I don’t get why you are so focused on trying to show OD in a bad light when there is no real reason to.
Again, if you listen to the explanations presented, you very quickly realize that between contracted traders and Hitesh’s algos, you can easily be seeing 65%+ win rates with 10-20 signals per day (which is ALL you need to be very successful).
JAS profess to be the source of their signals.
OD review tomorrow, but from memory they don’t disclose their source (whether it’s themselves or otherwise).
Yet, in marketing OD while in prelaunch, that’s exactly what the staff at Options Domination did.
Why did they do it? I don’t know. But let’s not pretend it never happened.
That and using JAS signals during webinars.
As I mentioned in the previous comment, they’re slotted in for a review tommorow.
If the comp plan is anything like DS Domination (and I’m guessing it is), this is going to be a pyramid scheme attached to something else, launched because the original one (DS) began to collapse.
I just told you that they specifically stated their signals came from their algos and contracted traders and even demonstrated the signals in live backtests. Are you willfully ignorant of the truth or just stupid…don’t see any other possibility here.
You still haven’t corrected your claim that OD responded after your post when they actually responding a MONTH before you ever posted this (the very same day that JA made these claims).
What about the possibility they are lying ??
Algos they wrote themselves? Which contracted traders?
They were caught out using someone elses signals previously to represent BO during prelaunch. Why not again? (although likely with permission this time around)
No such claim was ever made. Read exactly what I wrote again in comment #5.
First, on computers nowadays, a lot of things can be faked. Did you save result of this live test that you could compare it with markets later.
Decent computer programmer somewhere in third-world can generate video of per-programmed signals. And it will cost OD Domination almost nothing. Good signals, if such thing exist, will cost ton of money.
Second, I bet there are plenty of trainers that can teach you how to trade cheaper than this so far alleged pyramid.
So uh, I sit down ready to start my review research on Options Domination and…
Awesome. I’ll have a review out sometime next week I guess when they’re ready.
what says ‘former JAS member’, alerted Hitesh ,and um, they’re getting their site ‘compliant’ for oz’s review? 🙂
anything is possible.
Once again, this corporate response was issued the SAME DAY JAS made these claims. Not AFTER your article about. Quit trying to assign greater importance to yourself senor twit.
OD is down for updates, as was announced a week ago, when they said before the coming monday they will be making updates. You’re such a small man to think that for some reason your posts/comments move a major company to anything lol.
I only saw the response published on social media after our article went live. Otherwise I would have included it in the article.
I don’t deny it might have been published it earlier, but I went with when I saw it published.
Do you want to get any more butthurt over it son?
Wouldn’t be the first time, and won’t be the last.
so, show a link of where the corporate response was issued, which also shows the sameday date? why argue about it and call people ‘senor twit’. is this a kindergarten slanging match?
and, since when did OD become a ‘major company’. exaggeration much?
I believed Options Domination would be a good opportunity to make some money trading binary options.
Unfortunately, I discovered that well known ponzi pimps/online scammers Aaron and Shara Andrews, also known as teamaaronshara, have been made admins of their closed Facebook group.
A simple google search will reveal their involvement with Zeek Rewards and the current pending legal action against them. Good luck!
lol. they’ve been involved in far more scams than zeek.
OD became a major company in the industry last week when their numbers dwarfed those of everyone else in the niche.
I know because I’ve traded binaries for a while. No signal or training service is close to their size.
They prob. are 3-4 times the size of their nearest competitor. Makes them major company by any definition given their relative size in the niche.
Oh so I call the twit “senor” to be respectful and it’s a problem?
Given he number of people he’s called retards and worse and you never point that out I can only conclude you are senorita twat and are upset your dear senor twit was called out for being a scam supporter (yes, he supports JAS, which is 100% provable scam given the brokers he works with and the fraud in his signals).
And anyone with a brain who actually saw the drama unfold was aware of OD response on the very first day. It was all over FB, and is still on Hitesh’s FB wall, dated almost 2 months ago.
(Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempts removed.)
I could care less what happens with OD and their matrix whatever. I’m a trader, they offer signals and training. Training is top notch, the guy is obviously a trader, signals are going great and they are TRANSPARENT about it all.
JAS is a scammer with bad brokers, bad signals, fraud in the signals, and my bigger problem is that he is being promoted here as good when it is obvious that he is not.
JAS says “I generate signals”. Oz says = JAS generates signals.
OD says “We generate signals, here is proof, there is data, thing with JAS is obviously from inactive site and an error that we fixed.” And Oz continues to claim they stole signals.
It’s pathetic, very much as would be expected of senor twit.
@Former
Therein lies the problem.
Right. So that’s clearly not the case. Visit the OD website as a member of the public today and there is absolutely no clarification as to where OD’s signals are sourced.
Ditto addressing the SEC registration issue, and/or clarifying if they need registration and/or have registered.
I’m going to flag JAS comments as offtopic going forward, seeing as they have nothing to do with the OD review (the company in its current state).
If you did not try to use his service in this way to start with you would not have the issue of him now turning it around on you which is fair game all of you D-Bag marketers are untalented S__ts and have no business in the trading arena with your 10 levels deep pyramid scheme which the FTC will likely dismantle in the future as they should…
A big F U for not taking responsibility for your actions.. AKA the guy that made the video you don’t care for lol…
This aged well lol. “OZ” the jealous mod of this website was so off base in the end.
John Anthony Signals shut down and were done by thee SEC + FBI for running an illicit fx broker selling services to Americans that they weren’t meant to.
Their “CTO”, a spaniard living in Germany went into a mental asylum after threatening the team.
John Anthony himself doesn’t exist; its a fake name and turns out he is on the Met’s wanted list for repeat financial crimes.
(Ozedit: butthurt and derails removed)
Hi, you seem to have a literacy problem. This article covered a claim by a third-party that Options Domination were stealing their signals.
The integrity of the third-party is neither here nor there, with respect to documenting the claims being made.
There’s nothing to be jealous about.