How much does WorldVentures owe affiliates in unpaid commissions?
Owing the amount of litigation WorldVentures has recently filed, we’ve published a number of articles featuring the company this week.
Perhaps one unintended consequence of WorldVentures’ legal filings is disclosure as to how much it currently owes affiliates.
I’ve been hearing rumors that WorldVentures is behind on commission payments for some time now. But up until now haven’t had anyone come forward with specific dollar amounts or a name to put any claims to.
In their July 16th motion for a TRO against Carlos Rogers, WorldVentures inadvertently revealed it owes Rogers $96,779.36 in unpaid commissions.
Rogers unpaid commissions are detailed in a July 7th resignation later addressed to Eddie Head, President of WorldVentures Holdings.
WorldVentures sought a TRO based on Rogers engaging in alleged cross-recruitment activity.
As I understand it the TRO was granted, on condition of WorldVentures fronting a $100,000 or so bond.
According to WorldVentures’ filing, Carlos Rogers signed up as a WorldVentures affiliate back in late 2005.
Rogers’ termination letter details $96,779.36 in unpaid commissions from last November – presumably well before he began promoting another company.
What I’m not understanding is how Rogers hasn’t been paid.
WorldVentures commission payments are primarily tied to pyramid recruitment.
New affiliates sign up, pay a fee and part of that fee is paid out as a recruitment commission.
Short of directing that money elsewhere, affiliates not being paid makes no sense.
Adding another layer to the mystery is WorldVentures recent legal filings, demonstrating they’ve got cash to spend on lawyers.
Perhaps that money might have been better spent paying their affiliates, but I digress.
Nowhere in WorldVentures filing do they challenge the amount Carlos claims he is owed.
With one affiliate allegedly owed almost one hundred thousand dollars, amounts owed to other affiliates could well run into the millions.
Perhaps more importantly – If WorldVentures is unable to pay affiliates and is on the verge of going belly up, why are they representing in lawsuits that there’s a thriving business to protect?
I appreciate there’s an unofficial gag order in place, by way of top WorldVentures affiliates not wanting to jeopardize unpaid commissions by speaking out, but surely someone in the company can shed further light on this?
Update 25th July 2018 – WorldVentures affiliates contacting support regarding unpaid commissions, are being told there’s “no timeframe” on when they’ll be paid.
Update 27th July 2018 – In a lawsuit filed against WorldVentures on July 18th, Carlos Rogers reveals he is now owed “approximately $150,000” in unpaid commissions and ‘an additional $19,300 in lost benefits‘.
In a separate lawsuit filed by Dennis Bay, he claims WorldVentures owes him $243,057 in unpaid commissions.
Well that’s disappointing.
Seems the WorldVentures unpaid commissions wall of silence will continue.
Prospective affiliates beware.
BehindMLM WorldVentures commission payments are DIRECTLY tied to the sale of the WorldVentures product NOT TO “pyramid recruitment” or “new affiliates” .
The linked Norwegian regulatory investigation revealed that 95% of WorldVentures’ membership product sales were purchased by affiliates in Norway. That figure was 75% globally in 2017.
That’s well above the 50%/51% retail margin, meaning the vast majority of commissions earned by WorldVentures affiliates are tied to recruitment.
And this was based on WorldVentures’ own data submitted to the Norwegian Gaming Board, so there’s no question of authenticity.
Obviously this website follows suit to mainstream media and only gives the information to persuade others to believe it as fact.
Partial truths are then in some part a lie…. as is much of the information being stated in your post. Only giving a piece of a puzzle doesn’t give you the whole picture.
Sad that people read this as if the whole truth is being given. FALSE.
We quoted filed legal documents by WorldVentures. They’ve additionally admitted in court they owe Rogers almost $100,000.
Time to pull your head out of your ass…
Here we go again unpaid commissions. How many millions in unpaid commissions???
It is unbelievable to me that this most wonderful opportunity called network marketing in theory is basically just that since there is no unity or representation for the entire organization.
We need to unite and create our own society with lawyers and advocacy to make the necessary changes and to represent our best interests. Who of us would not support and be a member of such a society?
All these companies would be nowhere without the blood sweat and tears of strong entrepreneurs who have taken the market to a billions of dollars industry, yet they hold and are in control of the cash register so to speak and hold all affiliates hostage to tyranny and theft.
We need to be in control of our commissions which means that our commissions must be taken and divided at purchase this will prevent companies from being in control of our commissions.
The amount of our commissions must go to us right away at purchase and be taken away from the price of the purchase. This much going to company and this much going to affiliate right at purchase.
Would everyone please give this some thought?
Ironically the way to achieve that would be to actually start your own business.
WorldVentures trying to calm things down in SA over the non payment of reps
worldventures com/press/worldventures-acts-to-protect-its-south-africa-reps-and-business/
Not paying your affiliates for month is a “minor contract dispute”?
WorldVentures did file a notice of removal in the Soojay Texas case on August 15th. Guess they quietly paid them off like Dennis Bay.
Oz, I really thought you were a real researcher and reporter. I see now you are against network marketing. This site would have been so much cooler if you were open to this business structure.
Truth is all that is happening to this company is true to the nature of business period…. mlm or traditional business. I followed the facts you gave me and was able to see that.
This is a good company, a awesome product with great intentions. The bad guys are doing what bad guys do, they punched this company so hard that a decision had to be made…. fall or ask these “business owners” to do what owners do…. save their company.
All of the higher ups were given a choice before that decision was made. They knew the entire time what was happening and why.
I wasn’t even a senior rep but I knew what happened and your directing me to court documents after Rogers and other former members didn’t even hide their cross recruiting efforts .
If you’re looking for a site open to pyramid schemes BusinessForHome is what you’re after.
I have nothing against network marketing. I have a big problem with pyramid schemes with little to no retail sales though.
You either haven’t gone through the Norway case or you’ve chosen to ignore it. Keep digging.
Actually I did look into the case….. but honestly as a person that sees the benefits in the “pyramid” structure the report read to me the same ol same ol’ as it relates to people wanting something for nothing.
That is the big misconception of network marketing, you have to work for it! It’s stepping into the big business arena in order to EARN massive payouts.
I capitalized earn because you gotta work for it! I watch people scam themselves all the time by either jumping into this structure without commitment or just pure laziness.
The average person wouldn’t have such a huge opportunity to create substantial wealth. Truth is most people are of this new age where everyone gets a trophy at little league…. that is a lie!
There are winners and there are losers! And usually the winners work their ass off for it just like in traditional business.
Read: From The Hood to Doing Good by Johnny Wimbrey. Or The unemployed millionaire by Matt Morris.
If there are many of us willing to fight for this company as if it were our own why try to wipe it out in honor of those that got actually what the agreed to….. this is entrepreneurship!
I don’t understand as a reporter you aren’t mentioning the fact in WV vs CR, CR was caught cross-recruiting?
Think about it what is wrong with getting paid commissions for sales? What is wrong with making a investment into a opportunity that one can’t be fired from. Yes it has its ups and downs as does all business.
As far as I can the only one trying to fire us you, through planting distrust into the industry as a whole rather than reporting on the merit and nature of what it means to do business.
This has been my first network marketing company and my last. The drama that surrounds it is people…. not the business or the product or the company.
Most of the problems I see are the self-defeating issues one harbors within themselves. I’m a regular everyday woman, go check me out in Facebook Wisdom Huffman.
I couldn’t fake the last 3 years of my life…. it has been great because of this company and the product it offer.
Travel MLM makes no sense whatsoever. MLMs typically need 40% profit to just pay off commissions through multiple levels. This was stated by industry veterans and even MLM attorneys. Travel industry’s average margin is maybe 10% (less for airlines, more for hotels and cruises). There is NO ROOM in the profit margin to support an MLM.
Blaming the failure to see reality on critics just proves motivated thinking.
I’ll leave you with this:
https://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/revital-u-review-coffee-caffeine-capsules-with-strong-retail-focus/
Oz has no problem with valid MLM. It’s the pyramid scams he has problem with. Like most people on this planet (but not you, apparently).
Actually let’s talk about the pyramid structure. (Ozedit: Snip, let’s not. Pyramid structure != pyramid scheme. Offtopic derails removed.)
There’s nothing beneficial about the majority of participants inevitably losing money in a pyramid scheme.
WV was banned in Norway because it uses an unsustainable business model that guarantees the majority of participants lose money.
This is an article covering World Venture’s unpaid commissions. It’s not a platform for your “what about” rants. First and last warning.
The fact that it is hard work to scam people in a pyramid scheme does not stop it being scamming.
One of the great tragedies of MLM is that if the people involved put all that effort and mental energy into a legitimate business, whether their own or someone elses, they would almost certainly succeed in improving their lives. They wouldn’t all become millionaires, but it’s a certainty that 99% of them wouldn’t lose money as they do in MLM.