Wor(l)d International Review: Overpriced Helo fitness bands?
Wor(l)d International began life as Global Mobile Network back in 2010. Founded by CEO and President Fabio Galdi, Wor(l)d International initially appeared to be headquartered in Singapore, with operations in Italy and China.
Today Wor(l)d International provide a sole corporate address in the US state of Florida.
Global Mobile Network’s original business model saw the company market a tablet, mobile advertising app, VOIP app and “power clouds” (also referred to as “power units”).
Information provided was murky, making it difficult to get a concrete sense of Global Mobile Network’s product lineup.
The compensation plan meanwhile focused heavily on affiliate recruitment.
Power Units paid a ROI to affiliates who purchased them, via recruitment of new Global Mobile Network affiliates who did the same.
Power Units were only available to Global Mobile Network affiliates who spend $600 or $1600 on their membership.
The Power Clouds component of Global Mobile Network’s compensation plan appears to have begun falling apart in early 2016.
Generally from what I’ve seen, most Global Mobile Network affiliates who invested in Power Clouds were not paid and lost money.
Around the same time the Power Clouds were collapsing, Global Mobile Network changed its name to Wor(l)d International and started marketing a wearable device they called “Helo”.
Today there is no mention of VOIP, Power Clouds, mobile advertising or the ad app on the Wor(l)d International website.
A number of you have written in and asked I review Wor(l)d International’s current business model, so in this updated review we’re taking a look at the company as it operates today.
Read on for a full review of the Wor(l)d International MLM opportunity.
Wor(l)d International Products
Wor(l)d International’s flagship product are their Helo fitness bands. Available in classic and LX models, Wor(l)d International market the bands as a “personal lifestyle monitor”.
Wear your HELO Wellness Band now and take care of yourself.
All the data collected will be used to improve the world. All your measurements are stored to build a database with a great deal of useful information to globally improve wellness and lifestyle.
Individual users of the Helo bands access their data via the “LifeLog” mobile app ($20 a month).
Stats tracked by the Helo band include
- heart rate – “measures the heartbeat in beats per minute”
- “overall quality” (???)
- breath rate – “measures the respiration in breaths per minute”
- mood and energy – “returns indexes thanks to which the sensors and a dedicated algorithm”
As to the accuracy of the Helo devices, Wor(l)d International provide the following disclaimer:
The measurements are for self-evaluation only and are not intended to substitute any clinic or medical diagnostics or measurements.
All values should be considered ambulatory measurements and are subject to variants with a high grade of tolerance in the accuracy.
The Wor(l)d International website doesn’t provide a price for the original Helo band. The LX model retails in a box set for $319.
A “Family Bundle” of five bands is available for $1349. A “Premium Bundle” of five Helo LX bands and five boxes of five different colored straps costs $1999.
A box of five Helo band straps is sold separately for $120. There’s also a Germanium Kit (“improve your HELO adding 3 fantastic 99.9% pure Germanium stones on your wrist”) available for $120.
Wor(l)d International’s secondary product is BioZen. The company claims BioZen offers ‘static and extreme low frequency magnetic field protection‘.
The legally defined specific absorption rate (SAR) only protects our bodies against the influence of high radio-frequency radiation.
BioZen is the only technology in the world that expands this protection to a biological level. This is possible by positively changing the low-frequency electromagnetic fields that are formed.
According to Worl(d) International, BioZen is “scientifically and medically proven”.
BioZen doesn’t appear to be sold individually. The Wor(l)d International website only lists a bundle of twelve units for $450, or a bundle of thirty-eight units for $1350.
The Wor(l)d International Compensation Plan
Wor(l)d International provide only a vague summary of their compensation plan, the company does not provide a copy of the compensation plan on their website.
The following analysis has been put together based on an official Wor(l)d International compensation plan document for the US, Canada and Europe, dated late 2016.
Wor(l)d International Affiliate Ranks
There are thirteen affiliate ranks within the Wor(l)d International compensation plan.
Along with their respective qualification criteria, they are as follows:
- Affiliate – purchase a Wor(l)d International product package
- Silver – generate 100 GV of weaker binary side volume a week
- Gold – generate 2000 GV of weaker binary side volume a week
- Platinum – generate 5000 GV of weaker binary side volume a week
- Diamond – generate 10,000 GV of weaker binary side volume a week
- Double Diamond – generate 20,000 GV of weaker binary side volume a week (2 consecutive weeks)
- Grand Diamond – generate 30,000 GV of weaker binary side volume a week (2 consecutive weeks)
- President – generate 50,000 GV of weaker binary side volume a week (3 consecutive weeks)
- Double President – generate 100,000 GV of weaker binary side volume a week (3 consecutive weeks)
- Grand President – generate 150,000 GV of weaker binary side volume a week (3 consecutive weeks)
- President Millionaire – generate 250,000 GV of weaker binary side volume a week (5 consecutive weeks)
- Double President Millionaire – generate 500,000 GV of weaker binary side volume a week (5 consecutive weeks)
- Grand President Millionaire – generate 1,000,000 GV of weaker binary side volume a week (5 consecutive weeks)
Wor(l)d International affiliates earn a commission when they sell products to retail customers.
The Wor(l)d International compensation plan states this is “up to $25” per Helo band and “up to $45” per BioZen product sold.
Wor(l)d International pay residual commissions via a binary compensation structure.
A binary compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a binary team, split into two sides (left and right):
The first level of the binary team houses two positions. The second level of the binary team is generated by splitting these first two positions into another two positions each (4 positions).
Subsequent levels of the binary team are generated as required, with each new level housing twice as many positions as the previous level.
Positions in the binary team are filled via direct and indirect recruitment of affiliates. Note that there is no limit to how deep a binary team can grow.
Commissions are paid out as a percentage of sales volume generated by the weaker binary side each week.
How much of a percentage is paid out is determined by generated binary team sales volume:
- 100 PV generated on both sides of the binary team = 10% of weekly weaker binary volume
- 300 PV generated on both sides of the binary team = 15% of weekly weaker binary volume
- 450 PV generated on both sides of the binary team = 20% of weekly weaker binary volume
Binary commissions are capped weekly based on the following criteria:
- 100 PV generated on both sides of the binary team = $500 a week
- 300 PV generated on both sides of the binary team = $2000 a week
- 450 PV generated on both sides of the binary team = $50,000 a week
- Double President Millionaire – $100,000 a week
- Grand President Millionaire – $200,000 a week
Wor(l)d International affiliates are able to receive up to three binary positions, effectively permitting them to triple earnings on generated binary team volume.
The Fidelity Box bonus is made up of 1% of generated weaker side binary volume.
The Fidelity Box bonus is paid out annually, subject to the qualifying affiliate maintaining Fidelity membership for twelve months.
There’s no mention of Fidelity membership on the main Wor(l)d International website.
A Google search reveals it’s some sort of “proprietary wireless technology” but the Wor(l)d International website page it links to was broken (database error) at the time of publication.
The Generation Bonus is paid out via a unilevel compensation structure.
A unilevel compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a unilevel team, with every personally recruited affiliate placed directly under them (level 1):
If any level 1 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 2 of the original affiliate’s unilevel team.
If any level 2 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 3 and so on and so forth down a theoretical infinite number of levels.
Commissions are paid out as a matching percentage of residual binary commissions earned across ten levels of the unilevel team as follows:
- Silver – 10% match on level 1 (personally recruited affiliates
- Gold and Platinum – 10% on level 1 and 5% on level 2
- Diamond to Grand Diamond – 10% on level 1 and 5% on levels 2 and 3
- President – 10% on level 1 and 5% on levels 2 to 4
- Double President – 10% on levels 1 and 2 and 5% on levels 3 to 5
- Grand President – 10% on levels 1 and 2 and 5% on levels 3 to 6
- President Millionaire – 10% on levels 1 and 2 and 5% on levels 3 to 7
- Double President Millionaire – 10% on levels 1 and 2, 5% on levels 3 to 7 and 1% on level 8
- Grand President Millionaire – 10% on levels 1 and 2, 5% on levels 3 to 7 and 1% on levels 8 to 10
President Millionaire ranked Wor(l)d International affiliates qualify for a share in the Millionaire Pool.
This Millionaire Pool is made up of “up to 1%” of Wor(l)d International’s company-wide sales volume.
Wor(l)d International affiliates who qualify at the Diamond rank for four consecutive weeks receive a $1000 car bonus.
Whether this is an ongoing bonus is not made clear in the Wor(l)d International compensation plan.
Diamond Tour and Millionaire Club Bonus
The Wor(l)d International compensation plan doesn’t go into specifics about the Diamond Tour Bonus.
WOR(l)D’s extraordinary lifestyle is within your reach.
When you participate in the Diamond Life Tour, you experience unforgettable moments — such as premieres around the world,
luxurious gala dinners, and amazing shows — all while building and strengthening your network.
Presumably only Diamond and higher ranked Wor(l)d International affiliates can qualify.
There’s also a “Millionaire Club event”, which only President Millionaire ranked affiliates qualify for.
Wor(l)d International affiliates who qualify at the President Gold rank receive a “Wor(l)d luxury jewel”.
Joining Wor(l)d International
Wor(l)d International affiliate membership is tied to the purchase of “any product or package”.
There doesn’t appear to be any difference between wholesale and retail pricing (at least not on the Wor(l)d International website).
Granted innovation is required if a business model isn’t working out, but there’s a correct and incorrect way to go about it.
Cutting off affiliates who invested in Cloud Units and simply not paying them was definitely not the right way to go about Global Mobile Network’s transition to Wor(l)d International.
This transition has seen Wor(l)d International adopts the “everyone is an affiliate” MLM model, which is criticized for cannibalizing retail sales.
In this model, the only difference between a retail customer and affiliate is the signing of an affiliate agreement.
What this tends to lead to is the MLM opportunity used as a marketing tool (“hey, it doesn’t cost anything”), which in turn translates to company revenue mostly derived from affiliates.
Specifically newly recruited affiliates, which in MLM equates to a pyramid scheme.
There’s also something to be said about forcing affiliates to purchase product to become an affiliate. This introduces a “pay to play” element.
The Fidelity Box commission is 100% pay to play, with only affiliates who shell out for a Fidelity membership even able to earn it.
Moving on the products, FitBit is the obvious competitor to Helo.
The FitBit heart rate models cost about half that of Helo.
BioZen sounds like pseudo-compliance fluff to me, but I did find equivalent units on Amazon (3 units for $23) and Alibaba (79 cents for a pack of five).
This begs the question: Who is going to buy Wor(l)d International’s seemingly overpriced products?
This brings us back to Wor(l)d International’s MLM opportunity being marketed, with the products merely an attempt to legitimize pyramid recruitment.
You buy a Helo or BioZen bundle pack and sign up as a Wor(l)d International affiliate. You then recruit others who do the same, who do the same, who do the same etc. and through recruitment and recruitment alone one can max out the compensation plan.
There are no retail volume requirements in Wor(l)d International whatsoever.
Playing devil’s advocate we do have to acknowledge the possibility of retail sales, but a quick check with a potential upline should reveal it’s not taking place. At least not in any significant numbers, especially when compared to recruited affiliates purchasing product.
I mean really, without the attached Wor(l)d International income opportunity, who is going to buy a $319 fitness band when there are models available from recognized market leaders with established brand presence for less than half the price.
And that’s if you want to go branded. Alibaba has a ton of similar looking fitness bands to Helo and Helo LX for $30 and under (bulk orders).
A publicly available Income Disclosure Statement from Wor(l)d International reveals just under 59% of affiliates made no money during the first quarter of 2017.
The average income for the rest of the affiliate-base was just $393.35 (roughly $33 a week).
The retail commissions for Helo and BioZen are $25 and $45 respectively.
So uh what, on average a Wor(l)d International affiliate isn’t making even one retail sale of Helo a week? That’s not indicative of an MLM company built on a foundation of healthy retail sales.
Once affiliate recruitment dies down, Wor(l)d International will stall – as happened with Global Mobile Network. This will prompt a collapse, which unfortunately will see the majority of Wor(l)d International affiliates lose money.
Might be a good time to pick up a Helo band or BioZen sticker on eBay cheap though…
319 for a fitness band? Hah. Even the most premium model, Fitbit Surge, which is actually a fitness WATCH (it actually has a full display, unlike helo here) is just 250 on official Fitbit website (which means it can be found for less).
Fitness bands without a display should be under $100 MSRP. This thing is so overpriced it’s bordering on hilarious. And $20 a month for users to track their own data? That’s highway robbery.
Isn’t this where OneCoin Ponzi scammers the Islam Bros. jumped to?
Yes this is where a lot of scammers are going.
Report this to Kieron Vaughn at City of London
Helo is a trademarked name. The name is owned by
They (Wor(l)d International might have done some research before using the name helo.
Just for some historical background for Moyn and Monir Islam and OneCoin.
The flashy Islam brothers heavily promoted get-rich-quick scheme OneCoin – now they’ve abandoned it. 26 000 in downline.
Exit from OneCoin and now new fraud Helo.
Monir & Moyn Islam Achieve President Rank First Week With WOR(l)D
According to the Wor(l)d International compensation plan, you need to hold the President rank for three consecutive weeks before you get it.
It’s impossible to achieve President within one week of signing up, unless the Islam brothers got a secret backroom deal.
As a techie I have to say the promises given for the helo band are suspicious at best and fiction at worst.
The recording of mood and emotions is nothing short of a pseudoscience whereas promised future add-ons (that will include monitoring of blood-glucose levels, oxygen levels, blood-alcohol levels and more) sound like reading a sci-fi book.
Assuming they really can track all that via a skin contact sensor 24/7 without adding an IV to the device, it is the most game-changing health band on the planet.
Of the current features I doubt they can get reliable ECG and blood pressure readings from the wrist alone. The ECG at least is probably generated from heart bps, as a real ECG would need chest contactors.
In general I’d love to read a technical test/review of the band, done by some independent tech magazine, site or blog.
Otto, don’t forget… there can be a kind of “magic” achieved with mineral add-ons! E.g. germanium, titanium, recently there were some pure salts… stones placed on inner side of the wrist band can do the trick! LOL!
Recalls me madness with “magic Japanese magnetic wrist bands” in early ’70…
They sold those magnetic “healing” wristbands still in 90’s in Finland!
(There were also magnets that were supposed to be installed on the gasoline hose of your car and they were supposed to “make the engine run smoother and with less gasoline”.)
Why do thousands of fools who lose money in Onecoin blindly follow the same upline into whatever new program or scheme the Onecoin upline decides to now promote? Are they stupid or what?
It’s a vicious cycle of losing money and falling for promises of making it back by “getting in at the top” of a new shiny scam.
I believe the other selling point of the Helo bands is there is an on-call alert service for an extra charge.
There is also supposed to be a panic button with GPS tracking that wearers press to alert others in case of an emergency.
An app is suppose to alert friends or family members if the wearer has a health issue needing attention.
Seems like a practical feature for members who have sick or elderly friends and family living at a distance.
I’m not sure how effective that service has been, though.
I would like to respond to Mr. Otto,
I’m one of the Helo developer and i would like to provide to you some information about the science behind Helo.
Almost all the Helo algorithm uses “Machine Learning Technique” for the Estimation of the measurement, and are pretty accurate, the same approach of Artificial Intelligence is being applied to the Estimation of the Glucose level in the blood.
For the Mood and Fatigue Helo it simply uses the HRV (Heart Rate Variability) approach to make the measure. The ECG Technology is developed with Toshiba and you can research about Toshiba progress on the ECG measurement.
Below some Links that may help:
That sounds like an useful feature although there are existing products for the same.
If it did not promise such a weird stuff like readings for “mood and energy” or “pure Germanium stone upgrade kit” or the alleged update adding the reading of blood alcohol and sugar levels, the HELO band could just as well be a sound and realistic product (albeit with the network model that was so well analyzed in this post and the questionable pricing).
Which means you’re carrying a phone around anyway. Worth double the price of a FitBit for that? Doubt it.
Guys, i think there is some confusion on the price analysis here, the Helo LX Device is priced at $199 and the price you’re talking about is the Helo LX Box Set that includes also the Germanium Plates, 3 Germanium Stones pure at 99.9% for a Total price of $319.
So as you can see the Device is priced much lower than FitBit Surge at $249 but with much more features.
There’s no $199 Helo LX device on the official Wor(l)d International online store.
In some countries it is not open yet because we have good demand on the Helo Box Set, but try to change the Store Location to any country outside EU and USA /Canada and you will see it, in few days it will be available also in Europe and USA, the LX just starts deliver 2 weeks ago.
I hope to have answered your question.
Well the country I looked at is the US.
Clearly Wor(l)d International aren’t interested in anyone buying the $199 model. They’re quite happy ripping people off for $319.
Mr. Oz the Magician, are you able to read ??
Thanks for the nice language.
Actually I can confirm that if you go to store, select the “products” tab and then from top right set “store country” as EGYPT, the 199 USD bracelet (without the bundled box containing germanium stone add-on) will magically appear.
So Braian is right about the $199 bracelet.
Fun fact: the germanium stone add-on costs 120 USD and the box that contains both the bracelet and the germanium stone add-on costs 319 USD, giving you a savings of 0 USD, LOL!
What does that have to do with ripping people off with a $319 version?
And can the $199 version do everything you said without the paid app?
Like I said above (comment #23) the $319 version includes the germanium stone add-on (value $120) whereas the $199 version does not.
For all that I can tell the pricings are consistent between markets.
At any price, a Germanium addon is the scammers version of iron pyrites, the Wor(l)d International Helo band cannot possibly offer all of the functions its’ promoters claim, it costs way more than recognizable brands and is attached to a highly suspect, if not totally illegal compensation plan.
Go for it Otto.
And at the end of the day, whether or not the product works is irrelevant when it comes to an MLMs success. Recruiting is the name of the game. Period.
at $319, it should at least come with an amega wand too. lmao
germanium plates and stones are dirt cheap on alibaba costing around a couple of dollars each.
the $120 being overcharged for the germanium add-ons is obviously to pay the recruitment commissions.
On the blood sugar level monitoring and the current state of tech:
Posting a company issued press release is not “proof” of anything, other than of the companies’ ability to post press releases.
Your claim the Wor(l)d International Helo can monitor blood glucose levels is beyond ridiculous.
In fact, it’s criminally misleading and outright dangerous.
Samsung has that capability in their Galaxy S6 phone for free since 2015 in “Samsung Health” app.
As for your blood glucose estimation, you’re NOT the first. Sensewear Pro Armband had been on the market since 2002. You’re 15 years too late to claim that title. And I doubt your estimate accuracy is anywhere near that device.
There is a ton of inaccurate info in this review. Just saying.
Also, why no talk of BP monitoring? That and remote vital signs monitoring are the real value here. Its odd that those 2 benefits weren’t featured prominently in the review.
My dad would be alive today if he was wearing this device during the 48 hours he was at home alone between ER visits.
Which is why you failed to point any of it out? Just saying.
Probably because it has nothing to do with the MLM opportunity? Just saying.
I primarily review the business as a whole, not specifically products. What info I did include on the bands is from the Wor(l)d International website.
Obviously there wasn’t anything about BP monitoring up at the time of publication (I had no reason to leave it out).
When his blood pressure bottomed out my mom was at work. She had no idea he was getting worse until she got home.
He made it a few days, but if she or I had known his vitals he would have been back to ICU within hours and survived. At least that what doc told us.
(Ozedit: Thankyou for confirming there are no errors in the review. Please don’t falsely claim there are if you’re unable to point any out.)
If only he had access to a device. A device that… somehow monitored pressure in the blood stream.
One could even call it a “blood pressure monitor”. Alas, if only such a device existed.
I don’t mean to make light of your father’s plight. But surely if he was in and out of the ER for blood pressure related issues, having access to a monitoring device (less than $20 device you wear on your wrist from Walmart) is a no-brainer?
Wor(l)d International themselves state their Helo bands aren’t a substitute for medical equipment.
Its the remote monitoring. So I can see his blood pressure when I’m hours away from him, and he doesmt have to take his own BP. And yes, they have a liability disclaimer. You obviously dont see a benefit in remotely monitoring sick or elderly parents vital signs.
Omitted. And I haven’t seen a $20 dollar substitute for this device. Please provide a link.
$20 will get you a device you wear on your wrist. He doesn’t have to take his own BP it does it automatically.
Oh I do, but not with devices that are not intended to be used as a substitute for medical equipment.
No way known I’d put the life of a loved one at risk in the hands of an estimation device.
Less than $20 will get your a monitoring device.
If you want one that you can check remotely:
$26 band. Blood pressure can be monitored over Facebook and/or WeChat.
$36 band. Pushes vitals to even more platforms.
If you want more functionality (eg. alerts), prices start there.
But please. Don’t let that get in the way of using your father’s death to promote your MLM business.
I noticed on WorldGN’s website they are refunding all investors who invested in the power clouds, as the power cloud solar farms haven’t been performing to expectations.
They give the email below to get your money back. It’s good they are making right when power clouds stopped making payments to investors.
(Ozedit: email removed)
Funds were invested through Wor(l)d International. Please don’t post email addresses from unknown domains.
Announcement of Powerclouds refunds on Wor(l)d official site:
BTW – I tried to visit former web site of umbrella World Assurance Group. I was redirected to some ugly “make your manhood hard” web.
I wouldn’t give it a shit, probably they are trying to lure the victims into other “opportunity”… your decision, your call.
My only question is “where is the money coming from?”
If investors can get their money back though at least that’s something (provided Wor(l)d aren’t somehow robbing Peter to pay off Paul).
Hi! I’m from Slovenia (EU). People from all over the world (in more then 100 countries!) have paid for a Fabio Galdi’s “visions”, but most of them… the products never get!
Where is their “miracle” space computer (space lumina)? Where are other products: space stations, space phones, etc.??
Now they will return the money to all the people who were involved in the Power Clouds project? Cca. 60 Mio. USD? Never! They’re just trying to lure the victims again!
My father paid in May 2015 more then 2.000 USD for the “amazing” Space Lumina! No product.. No money refund! They are liars and thieves!
Here is their last answer:
I have a friend doing this business so I asked him a few questions. Apparently part of the training must be how to answer a question without answering the question.
For instance, “How much money can I realistically make?” Answer “You will have financial freedom.” FYI he has barely broken even after 2 months but won a cruise.
Question “What do these products do that make them so superior to the competition?” Answer “They are category changers.”
Question “What makes the products category changers?” Answer “The technology is mind blowing!”
He could not give me any straight answers or figures except that I have to pay THE COMPANY $59 per month for the privilege of “sharing” THEIR technology on top of buying their products of course.
The products do seem useful although expensive. Unfortunately, this sounds like a textbook pyramid scheme.
That’s brainwashing. Typical for most pyramidal schemes and scams. Funny how screwed victims “spread the word”.
You know it looks to me that all the negative people on here have not actually done a side by side comprehensive comparison of Helo LX and these other monitors you claim must be better because they are what, Cheaper?
How many of these bands or gadgets do I have to wear to equal the HELO LX? What’s the upside to goin to Walmart? Oh yeah, the Waltons need some more money.
Why not give the average guy a chance? Why are you people so critical of a company that offers a compensation plan for people working and making a living? (Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempt removed)
I’d suggest until you purchase the product and use it that refrain from trying to give a product analysis by your uninformed best guestimation.
I don’t mean to fuss but it aggravates me to hear people trying to steal other people’s dreams for trying something new and exciting.
You sit there and complain that a person has to spend $319 on a Helo and $59 a month. Where else can you go and start a traditional business for that little money and have the opportunity for sharing the product and all of its great benefits and get paid.
It’s no different from any type salesman working on commission or what’s worse tide to a JOB for a $10-$20 an hour. I’m a general contractor by trade so I look at different opportunities of all kinds to bid on.
The material, labor and overhead are a little scary at times. If there were so many so called problems, wouldn’t there be more blogs, feeds, you tubes and other social medias yelling about it instead of the very few on here.
I do have a HELO LX and I have compared it to clinical equipment at the VA HOSPITAL. All the readings were just 1 or 2 points from each other and that’s close enough for me.
The doctor and nurses thought it was quite remarkable. 2 nurses wanted more info for the income opportunity.
There was no pressure. They were not forced to buy. They can look at it and decide for themselves if it’s a fit for them. If not, no problem. Where is the harm in that?
Um, aren’t you supposed to be selling the Helo bands to retail customers?
Apparently you’re selling a business for $319 $59 a month. That’s chain recruitment in MLM, otherwise known as a pyramid scheme. I think you just gave the game away chief.
An overpriced products is a strong indication of a lack of retail viability. Considering retail viability is crucial in MLM, you’re really that surprised it’s a core focus of the review?
Because many of those working people havent realized, yet, that they are being manipulated and taken for a ride by seasoned scammers.
Us people want to help them find out the inevitable sooner than later. Believe it or not, some people are very grateful.
Oz you are so misinformed. If someone wants to buy the Helo that is it, no other requirement. If they decide they want to start a part time business and get a back office that does all the tracking leg work then one would think $59/mo is cheap overhead for small part time business. (Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempts removed)
I’m just trying to understand how you can even understand the economics on the price of the Helo. Have you or any of the site originators seen the books on costs of R&D, parts, warehousing, patents, personel, office space, licensing, compensations and whatever else goes into it. I sure haven’t.
Did you just pick a number out of the air? So how can you say it’s overpriced? Oh, and I guess the company shouldn’t make a profit?
WGN Is listed on NY Stock Exchange. I’m sure there a strict guidelines that have to be followed to remain an active and viable company.
I only quoted your own words, in which you described helo as nothing more than a conduit to sell a business opportunity.
Simple. Compare it to whatever else is out there. If it costs a lot more than Helo is clearly overpriced.
Only reason that happens in an MLM is to support a compensation plan. It also means there’s little to no retail viability, which is a strong indication of pyramid activity taking place.
Have you done any research on WGN to give you the impression that they are scammers or are you of this mindset no matter what the company.
Since when is selling a unique and viable product a scam? I’m pretty sure I’m all businesses they must sell something or go out of business.
There are other alternatives to getting you product to market without goin the traditional route of putting on a shelf for wholesale so it can then be marked up to retail.
WGN has sold about 600k HELOS so far this year with the expectation of more than 1 million by the end of the year.
WGN is ranked #4 in wearable and plan to get to #2 by next year. That doesn’t sound like a scam to me. Is Fitbit a scam?
Since when was Helo a “unique” product?
Copy Fitbit (or the ton of Chinese manufacturers out there) = “Hay guys, we spent a ton of money developing our own unique product”?
By whom ???
Oz have you actually done a due diligence on WGN or the Helo LX. It provides 2-3 more times the life sensing technology than the rest.
Heart Rate, ECG, Sleep Quality, Steps and Distance, Calories Burned, Breath Rate, Emergency SOS, Gaurdian/ We Care remote monitoring, an iOS open API platform, Blood Sugar Monitoring and much much more and more to come. Spend a few days doing a side by side and let me know what you think.
I’ve seen Fitbits up to $330 and Garmens over $500 and they don’t touch the HELO LX in health monitoring value. Doctors and pharmacists are actually impressed by the technology and are recommending it.
The HELO LX will soon have its own medical division that will allow it to be listed as a medical device and be purchased thru insurance programs.
Have you read the review?
Oh gawd. The marketing hype is strong with this one.
Here’s a comparable device for $16 to $26:
Is blood sugar monitoring worth $100s of dollars in overhead? Yeah, nah.
A Google search for “blood sugar wrist band” lists them starting at $30.
I’m sure if you searched hard enough you could find a Chinese wrist band with everything for less than $50.
So now Oz, you run price comparison reviews or a better buying advice service. That’s a bit rich, Stick to your scam reviews, please. You have done the same with the Blue tooth beacons as well.
All legitimate products but you think its a scam because you feel they are over priced.
(Ozedit: Derail attempt removed)
What’s that? You hit a brickwall and had to resort to offtopic waffle?
Oz would you do me a favor? Google me just one device besides the HeloLX that will provide all the above features I mentioned earlier. Or will I have to go buy 3 or 4 bands to get all that technology on my arm.
If you happened to find one will they pay me a commission for sharing it with some of my friends and family?
Retail viability is important in MLM. Comparing products to what’s available out there is imperative to gauge the retail viability of a product.
I’ve been preaching this for years.
The Products aren’t a scam, it’s the business model they’re attached to that’s the problem.
The one I linked to does everything except blood glucose. No real need for a non-diabetic to be checking that, and if they do there’s $30 devices available.
Blood glucose alone isn’t worth a 90% markup when the service is available standalone for $30.
And that brings us back to why you’d spend hundreds of dollars on a product that’s available elsewhere for a fraction of the price.
If your product doesn’t provide retail value and you can’t sell it without the MLM business opportunity, you’re in a pyramid scheme.
So if we look at the Family pack of 5 for $1349, does that show viability. $269 each.
Therein lies your problem.
This isn’t about “YOU”.
This is about normal, everyday people who are seeking a legitimate opportunity to make money without becoming involved with a company attempting to sell overpriced, overhyped merchandise AND using a pyramid scheme business model.
Up to $26 for everything except blood glucose, vs. $269 with blood glucose?
There’s glucose bands starting at $2 or so on Alibaba. The tech isn’t worth an extra $243, so how is that retail viable?
Oz I call Bull___ on Alibaba. What’s the accuracy on a $2 or even a $26 device. I looked at alibaba.com and did not see the device you are talking about. I saw several that did not even come close. (Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempt removed)
Why are you hung up on MLM? I’ve got a small business with WGN. I don’t have to do anything if I don’t want. But, if I do they pay me a commission for a sale.
If I show a few people what I’m doin and they want to create some part time income, help them get started and trained WGN will pay me a commission because I’m helping create a sales organization.
They are not paying the big advertising conglomerates. I mean there is nothing hidden. I’ve agreed to the terms. We have a great product that will help people. Nobody is forcing them to buy. If they see the value in it they buy it.
There are millions of people in the world that like the newest and shiniest new technology. I don’t think putting them all on the shelf at Walmart or Best Buy is always the best option.
This is a direct sales person to person sales company with the backing of a multi million $ company who is partnered up with Toshiba and several other giants in the industry.
On top of which, the device is not approved for use by diagnosed diabetics.
I am one of those people looking for a good part time opportunity outside of my traditional work. I don’t consider my Helo over priced.
I knew what it cost when I bought it. It does what they said it would do. I wear it 24/7 with all my vitals downloaded every 90 minutes. It’s tied into my wife’s phone and she mine.
I’ve shown it to about 15 people of which 8 bought it. I made some money our money back and more. There are no unhappy customers. All are satisfied and some have chosen to share it. Where’s the harm in that?
I’ve spent more time on this blog than I did working today and made 2 family pack sales. I asked Oz but I didn’t see a response. (Ozedit: No requests for personal income advice please.)
Why would I make it up? I did a search for “glucose band” and then if you scroll down you’ll see a few starting at $2. There’s one for $1 but I think that’s more of a toy (?).
Anyway that gives you an idea of how much blood glucose monitoring tech is worth. Remember, this is within the context of that other $16-$24 band not having blood glucose tech but everything else.
Why is the author of the blog BehindMLM focused on MLM? Oh I dunno… I’m sure there’s a reason (serously?).
The issue of retail viability, as I’ve already explained, is without it an MLM company is likely operating as a pyramid scheme (nobody but affiliates are buying the product).
When this happens it’s the business opportunity being sold, which is a compliance problem.
What’s available in stores, whether you want to participate or what you’ve agreed to is irrelevant.
And that’s the problem. Would you spend a few hundred on the bands without the attached income opportunity?
You know the answer. I know the answer. Now it’s a question of whether you’ll admit it or not.
There’s ZERO proof that this watch does what it says.
Who developed it? Which university or lab? How long did the research take? Where’s the patent? Where are the experiments and results proving this does what it says?
NOTHING. All you have is a press release.
How did Apple, FitBit, and other companies not buy up this first, and it falls to a no-name company with ZERO track record to bring it to market, and using MLM?
It’s about as likely as your next-door neighbor who’s a bookkeeper (not science geek) invented a time machine in his garage, then invited you to go back in time with him to kill Hitler.
Well guys I’m wearing a Helo and I went to the VA to get a check up. I have high blood pressure. I checked my heart rate, breath rate, blood pressure and ECG with a doctor and a nurse and their clinical devises. My results were almost identical.
Do y’all get clinical lab and research reports when you buy a Fitbit or Apple Watch? Which university or lab did the study?
Like I said I’m not required to sell anything. You know they never thought Howard Hughes would ever get the Spruce Goose in the air or ever put a man on the moon. But, it happened.
Oz yes I would. I’m glad I got it.
O.K. then, I’ll rephrase:
This isn’t about “YOU”
This is about normal, everyday people who are seeking a legitimate opportunity to make money without becoming involved with a company attempting to sell overpriced, overhyped merchandise AND using a pyramid scheme business model, or who aren’t blinded by their own greed enough to listen to those who do know what they’re talking about and can recognize pyramid schemes with overhyped, overpriced products when they see them.
In fact, seeing as you asked, I would be very careful selling products which can have a detrimental effect on your customers’ health based on the sales hype of your upline.
(Ozedit: If you wish to discuss non-MLM companies do it elsewhere)
And how many retail Helo orders did you take in May (sales to non-affiliates who are still not affiliates today)?
LOL. “about 600k so far” (in June 2nd)?
According to an IDC report the top 5 in Q4 2016 were:
Fitbit: 6.5 million units
Xiaomi: 5.2 million
Apple: 4.6 million
Garmin: 2.1 million
Samsung: 1.9 million
WGN/HELO is not even mentioned because in the scale tracked by respectable analyst houses, it is in rounding errors.
Assuming the market has not collapsed significantly and by the numbers you gave HELO is some 1.5 million shipments short per quarter to be #4, and almost 5 million short per quarter to be #2.
If you plan to promote your business with made-up statistics try to at least use numbers that remotely make sense.
I do find this helo interesting. I would like to point out one glaring mistake, and that is the use of the term ‘pyramid scheme’.
A pyramid scheme has no product and the people on top make more than those below. With an MLM anyone can surpass their upline with sales titles or commissions (rank or money).
False. A product-based pyramid scheme in MLM has little to no retail activity taking place, and they all have an attached product or service (ref: Vemma, Herbalife).
Don’t need to, as they are name brand companies with tremendous history. Fitbit founded in 2007. Apple founded back in 1976. They have a track record and are public companies.
WGN is NOTHING like that.
helo smells and looks like a scam where a company outside the USA takes peoples money rapidly and then disappears.
Typical bunch of people falsely claiming what it does and then 4 weeks later you find out they have not even received their helo!?? whats up scammers??
Just few facts about “projects” from professional bio of Fabio Galdi – CEO of World and other enterprises…:
“Shared” wireless network + free VoIP call provided by WiFi routers in possession of affiliates (technical nonsense) – collapsed scam
and this is the result:
AdKash (AdCoin) – Mobile advertising revenue share application
Entry level of World GN and preluide to Powerclouds scam. Affiliates made initial “investment” and after that they were paid for their own mobile traffic (accompanied with injected advertisement) + for building structure of other affiliates (recruiting).
Collapsed before the most of affiliates got the initial investment back.
Ran under World GN love mark.
Leasback (Investment) into solar panels. Share of revenue (+ MLM commissions) generated by production of energy in power stations “owned” and built by World (and partner companies).
Collapsed before maturity of investment. Only 4 units were built (intead of 20), promised revenue was higher than realistic production gain of solar panel.
Reselling World phones, tablets + VoIP call
Additional part of World GN. Possible commissions on reselling noname “World branded” Chinese phones and tables (hardware was heavily overpriced). Second generation of phone was a real crap.
Similar situation as with World Phones and tablets… promised commissions on reselling noname VR gadget. Trouble was that many affiliates did not receive ordered gods.
Promoted by some nice and hype product photos and videos, no info usability of product from real customers.
Collapsed and terminated business
Space station computer & router, 5G mobile network
Combination of promised commissions on reselling noname hardware + restarted concept of Telme network. Building mobile (VoIP) network over the network of private WiFi 5 GHz routers? Come on…
Many (all?) affiliates complains they did not receive ordered gods. Product probably “existed” only on nice product photos and videos:
Collapsed and terminated business
Helo wearable fitness wristband!
+ life changing germanium crystals and Biozen mobile phone stickers (eliminating electrosmog)
But wait, technology breaking smartphone INFOLIO with no electrosmog is just around the corner.
Looks like Fabio Galdi changes product line (based on some buzzword) and comp plan each two years, just before investment maturity. Good luck with promises and buzzwords!
I got my HELO. It works like I was told.
It actually warned me about my blood pressure 2 weeks ago. 185/106 Went to the VA to check with their monitors. My pressure had gone up to 192/110 Heart attach/stroke level.
They ran tests and blood work. Turns out I had low potassium level. If I wouldn’t have had the HELO LX I would’ve kept working and who knows what may have happened.
Look up what happens if your potassium gets to low. I don’t care what the negative people say, I’m worth $319 and so is staying alive to watch my family grow.
I am looking right now at the World Global Network opportunity. I am going back and forth if I should do this or not. The person who is trying to get me on board is pushing me to get the Premium Bundle package at $1,999.
I have now read negative reviews on both this site and ripoff report as well. Is there anyone out there that is doing this that is actually making money or is it a complete scam and throwing your money away???
Help and advice would be greatly appreciated.
Try suss out what your potential upline’s retail activity is.
Did they approach you about Helo or just hit you with the business opportunity?
If they’re focusing on signing up Premium Bundle affiliates and you’re going to be doing the same to earn money, that’s chain-recruitment.
Just the business Opportunity to buy the Premium bundle at $2,000. The placed an ad in Careerbuilder and I responded back. So is that good or bad or indifferent?
If this was you would you do this? I really wanted this to work, but I have been reading a lot of negative reviews. Very frustrating and so many scams and schemes out there.
How are these people not arrested or sued, they prey on the weak and desperate. Thank god I am neither, just trying to find a legitimate business opportunity. Any suggestions on good legitimate opportunities???
Affiliates recruiting affiliates and ignoring retail is bad. Try to get a sense of how many Helo bands this person sold to retail customers over the past few months versus how many affiliates they recruited.
MLM opportunities with little to no retail activity going on are operating as pyramid schemes.
So you can search for any MLM opportunity BehindMLM has revealed, but we don’t make specific and/or personal recommendations.
Take a look at this video that this person just sent me, yelling at me. WOW!
Thoughts on their reaction???
Whenever you see products being sold at HALF the cost on other sites then you know the business model is flawed.
Head over to Ebay if you want to save 50% on the HELO LX Fitness Smart Heart Tracker.
Ask for proof of “way more retail customers over reps”.
Exactly how many retail customers do they have versus recruited affiliate orders?
The rest of it is high-pressure marketing BS.
I know of 4 people that bought them for personal use only and have no desire to sell them as a business.
I also know the guy that sold it to us. He’s the salesman and we are the consumers. He presented the opportunity but we declined. However, we always have the option in the future if we change our mind.
There was no pressure. I thought of him like a door to door salesman with a good product, so I bought it. What’s the big deal?
The “big deal” is while the guy who sold you your Helo band might be running his business the right way, others have claimed otherwise.
Where do you find negative reviews about the HELO LX?
Seeing as the majority of purchasers are likely Wor(l)d International affiliates promoting the business, you’re probably not going to find any.
The bands themselves seem fine as a product, just overpriced.
yet another MLM that grossly inflates their prices. A simple search on Ebay ginds the Helo LX being sold for $110.00.
Tell me again as a person who wants to buy the product only… Why do I spend $319.99 when I can get the exact same product for $209.00 cheaper????
I did not check Amazon but I am sure you can find a better price but my point remains…If you really want a MLM product (because they are good) then NEVER BUY from an affilate…NEVER EVER.
I went to check those eBay listings and those seem to be unused devices from individual sellers. That means someone bought the device from an affiliate and now is selling it forward.
Either they bought one just to join and recruit or then an affiliate sold them one and they realized they didn’t want or need it.
Either way not a good sign.
Often times it is affiliates posing as customers because they dont want to get caught violating the terms and conditions… an easy loophole to avoid getting caught.
Even if they get 50 cents on the dollar then they are better off then stiiting in a closet and rotting away.
No surprise to see in the UK a lot of serial dubious opportunities promoters promoting this one hard..
I asked my guy about the eBay prices. He said that may be customers that bought the family pack that came with five and only needed 3 or 4. He said that was completely okay.
He also said that when you buy it off eBay it doesn’t come with a manufactures warranty just like if you bought a iPhone from an individual. He said that wasn’t a bad sign because it’s completely legit to help get some your money back.
I looked on eBay for myself and saw maybe 20 or so for sale. What’s funny is a lot of them are for sale at $264, $359, $424, $398, $199, $423, and so on.
With so few on eBay for sale how can that be a sign when it only represents less 1/1000th of 1% of the sales so far.
Why are y’all hatin on the Helo so much. I’ve seen on Facebook some pretty good personal stories and videos.
Not sure where you live, but in the US the top hits on EBay are between $150-$200. Most with fast and free shipping.
We don’t. We simply exercise far more skepticism than you are used to in your typical peer group.
The chances of such a device can exist without being tested, researched and published is nil. There is no proof that this device does what it says other than testimonials from people who are not qualified to evaluate it.
Yes that includes you and me. That’s why there are published peer reviewed scientific studies.
Also… You do get all the warranties and such when buying it on ebay.. Your buying from an affiliate and it comes with the same guarantee that you would get if you bought it from the company.
Whats funny is that you can buy other companies products that are IDENTICAL and save even more..
The whole think is a big scam…..typical… Sell a product at inflated prices..Hope the customers that pay dont do a Google Search…and if they do…claime “Well it is not the same and there is no this or that”….BULLSHIT…
As I have stated in the past.. MLM PRODUCTS are traditionally very good…but usually WAY OVERPRICED…which is why I could never be an affiliate with a company IF I KNEW THEY COULD go to Third Party Sites ( Ebay,Amazon, Etsy) and get the IDENTICAL PRODuct for WAY CHEAPER… makes ZERO SENSE to a consumer and alot to the MLM rep…. LOLO
Came across an ad for this on craigslist that was advertised as a over-glorified work from home opportunity.
Having done Avon and Herbalife before, I am no stranger to the MLM game. Looked into it on the website, and not gonna lie, got swept up into the promise of it.
Definitely wasn’t about to just hand my money over without some research by any means, but the potential was enticing.
The product itself, barring it does actually work, seems amazing, but when you put it into perspective that you could essentially buy a conglomeration of different products that do the same thing for a substantial fraction of the cost, it doesn’t seem so amazing after all.
All in all, I’m glad I came across this blog post before investing into something that seemed a bit too good to be true.
THANK YOU to all the great folks here. Truly priceless information about “Wor(l)d”. Reading both this and the original article has been awesome.
The “Wor(l)d”s ability to control the narrative and make it virtually impossible to find anything about them other than their own propaganda is appalling.
While digging around for other sources, I found a sub reddit about them, /r/worldglobalnetwork. Perhaps some of the folks here might be interested in sharing their stories there as well.
But I digress. Thanks again to the behindmlm.com community for helping to expose the world (pun intended) to wisdom!
Do you know what really happens when you attempt to get a refund? While I’ve read many stories from folks that
* Never received their products
* Received and immediately returned unopened
* Received, couldn’t get it to work and returned within a few days.
Each and every single one says world never issued the refund. The most common scenario was receiving confirmation of the refund but it remaining in perpetual “processing” status.
The only people that I’ve read having recovered any of their money back was from their credit card companies, not world, after filing disputes with their financial institutions. Not only that, but typically their “uplines”, whom were abundantly supportive up to that point, cut bait and disavow them.
Do you personally know anyone that’s tried to get a refund following the agreed upon terms of service?
That’s five people.
So, all a pseudo MLM company has to do is find five people to give (unverified) testimonials, and everything’s OK and above board.
Not quite how I’d approach a business opportunity, but, different strokes for different folks, I guess.
So I just re-read the official Cancellation and Return policy document, CANCELLATION-AND-RETURN_INT.pdf, on their website (not sure if I’m allowed to post links, if so let me know and I’ll repost it, but it’s in the footer of their main page) and noticed this –
If you didn’t catch it:
“100% ten (14) day money-back guarantee (unless otherwise required by law) from the date the
service is delivered.”
As in – “100% ten (14) day money-back guarantee”
If not for all the shenanigans reported by those who’ve pursued refunds, I’d give them the benefit of the doubt and consider it a honest mistake. However, evidence precludes such a conclusion.
I just got word that they’re getting charged some automatic “Monthly Usage Fee”, like $63 bucks. From what I understand, purchases require membership, which I suspect is the catalyst for that fee.
Fred, Since you bought yours strictly as an end-user vs. reseller/affiliate/distributor, I’m curious if you’re still charged a monthly usage fee of any kind.
The HELO LX device by itself costs more than twice that of it’s competitor, the Fitbit Charge 2 (currently ~$130 at my local Sam’s club), which has no reoccurring cost.
Surely you don’t HAVE to continue paying EVERY MONTH just to be able to get readings from your HELO, right?
Since the HELO lacks a display, the only way to access its readings is through their app(s), so if they require a monthly fee for that, the device and all of it’s features are disabled and effectively non-functional once you opt-out of the monthly charge?
No I don’t pay a recurring fee. But if I wanted to invest in a business and start a my own sales organization with World it’s $59/mo.
That comes with a back office and marketing tools and a lot of other beneficial stuff to help you grow your business. For every month you pay they give 75 reward points.
I’ll have to get back to you on the rest of the details when my buddy gets back from a team event out in Vegas.
I’ve watched a couple live streams on FB of the event. I’m not sure how many were there, 2 or 3 thousand or so, but the speakers I listened to and their vision for where this company is and is going, it’s going viral.
One speaker was a doctor. My buddy is makin some serious money part time and havin a blast doin it. I don’t think that’s such a bad life style.
Since I’ve been on here reading the few complaints, I went to look at complaints on other smart watches and guess what they all have them too.
I also saw Fitbits, Garmens and others on eBay cheaper than retail. Are they overpriced as well when you are buying retail. And another thing these othe smart watch companies don’t offer a business opportunity.
What’s the actual # of complaints that you have read and counted? I really don’t think there’s that many. Business From Home has the Helo LX as the #1 product for 2017 along with being in top100 of all direct sales companies as stated by Direct Sales Association.
Heck I think I’m talking myself into relooking at the business side of Worl Global Network. Y’all have a nice day.
The HELO bracelet is history! Very soon it will disappear from the WGN’s digital store without any official explanation from the company!
The Fabio’s “astonishing” INFOLIO, the first smartphone that “reduces” the harmful effect of electrosmog is coming!! Please.. who the hell he think he is? Nikola Tesla II ? So…companies SAMSUNG, APPLE, etc., must “close” the factories!?
The “wolf” (Fabio Galdi!) never changes the “skin” (old practice!), always just the “hair” (new “amazing” product!).
If you’re not close to him… There’s no way you can make money with these scammers! Sorry.. pay $59/mo. collect “reward” points and make a nice photo with them!
IGOR I’d like to know everything you know about the HELO and there plans because you are evidently in the know. Write s list if you don’t mind just so I know you’ve actually looked at all the benefits.
Have you ever actually put one on your wrist and put it to use or are you just jumping on the negative band wagon.
I’ve got one on my arm right now and it gives updates just like I set it up, every hour. I set it with a clinical monitor at the VA and it’s near perfect every time I check it against theirs.
Yeah they are coming out with the infolio phone also. But isn’t that what innovative companies do?
IBM didn’t stop with I think it was the TRS80 back in the 80’s. Apple didn’t stop with the 1,2,3,4,5,6 or even the iPhone 7. They’ve gotten into the fitness bands for some reason!
Does that mean they are gonna just drop everything and just peruse something else. Maybe, I don’t know. But I do know one thing you can’t buy some of the first generation Iphones because technology move on.
Im glad there’s some smart sob’s out there figuring this stuff out. It makes life a lot easier for everybody.
Sounds like they’ve snared poor Fred.
Fred, Business From Home loves OneCoin too.
Please do some research on MLMing before you spend more money.
Please keep this in mind. The information you get from upline is not genuine as they make money OFF you. I make nothing from you and volunteer my time to try to stop scammers. Scamming veterans makes me even more irate. You are about to be suckered if you let them.
Char I appreciate that. But I’ve only spent the money on one device to see how I liked it and I do.
$320 plus shipping is not gonna cause anybody I know to go bankrupt. I mean my wife probably gets that much out of the washing machine or dryer every month.
I’m just watching my buddy do his thing with World and I have to admit, he’s doin well.
He’s not nor ever has been a scammer. He’s actually an electrical contractor with a part time business. Nobody forced him to do anything. He’s actually got some people in the health field in his business.
Are all MLM’s bad? And how do you know which ones are legit?
(Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempts removed)
I’m sure when they dig into it and after all the cards are dealt BFH will take appropriate action.
@Fred Offtopic is offtopic. There are over a hundred thousand comments on BehindMLM. The problem is on your end.
Fred, it’s nice to hear you found HELO useful and loved product (despite of rather inflated price).
But when speaking about World as business opportunity – it’s good to know with whom you are going to make a party (see my comment above):
Fabio Galdi (CEO of World) ran 7 different “product lines” so far.
Of them, only 2 were real and/or “sustainable” (Phones & tablets + Helo).
One was totally fictitious and non-existing (SPACE station with 5G “mobile” network).
Two of them did not cover orders made, but prepaid orders were not refunded (Power cells + Lumina glasses).
And none of them was present in the compensation plan long enough to achieve active balance as retailer (physical products) or get back investment (investment products and profit sharing from advertising).
Only way how to get into black numbers was… massive recruiting of the new affiliates. Does not sound it like pyramid scheme?
Not sure what’s happened in the past. But Edison tried 1000 times. Steve Jobs failed and got kicked out of his own company. You guys are typing on a blog.
All I know about world is a what is see in real time is on FB and the Internet and my friends that are happy with it. So far I can’t see anything wrong yet.
Are you guys wishing for failure or success. Maybe Fabia finally got teamed up with the right people and is moving in the right direction.
I just looked at the stock. It’s up to $20 per share and Toshiba is working with them. I pray you guys are wrong and so far as I can see you are.
If you want to discuss geography do it elsewhere. Kthx.
Poor Fred.. that is all I can say…. If you choose endorse a company whose owner has scammed people out of money before in the past (Powecells and Lumina Glasses…NEVER DELIVERED but paid for) then that is your choice.. Not for MOI!!
Sterling I’m not trying endorsing per se. I’m just telling you from a personal observation what I see and know.
The people over here in my beck of the woods are pretty happy about the last year or so. And they look to be all in for future design upgrades and features.
Maybe it took those failures to get him in the right track.
Oh, I didn’t know Edison or Jobs were running pseudo MLM companies which repeatedly caused those who followed them to lose money.
If you’re going to use analogies, at least compare like for like.
Wor(l)d International is an MLM opportunity. If you want to discuss non-MLM companies, taxes and what not, do it elsewhere.
Anything further offtopic will be marked as spam.
I’m not talkin out of my ass. I call BS on affiliate memberships as not being an investment. Anytime you put money up in hopes of gaining a future profit I would call that an investment. If you don’t invest, you don’t get the opportunity!
What exactly does off topic mean?
So would I. In MLM however you’re supposed to be focused on selling products to retail customers.
If you’re investing and getting paid to recruit others who do the same, you’re in a Ponzi scheme.
Wor(l)d International’s business model lends itself to pyramid recruitment (sign up as an affiliate, spend big on products and recruit others who do the same).
Your assertion that Wor(l)d International affiliate membership is an investment certainly doesn’t inspire confidence that legitimate retail sales in any significant number are taking place.
Within the context of comments on this review, anything that has nothing to do with Wor(l)d International and to a lesser extent the MLM industry.
Companies with completely different business models are governed by different laws. It’s a whole other ball game and so comparison beyond marketed products is irrelevant.
The investment was a whopping $320. If I want to do the business $59 a month. Wow that may break the bank for a whole lot of people.
You never answered my question earlier. Are all MLMs bad?
And, if it’s so highly regulated in the US, if that’s true how can world still be in business? I don’t think they are trying to hide. $20 a share on stock exchange.
I think with world you get paid from sales only.
How much is spent is irrelevant.
Recruitment took off with the Helo model. Have you not been reading? This is Wor(l)d’s third or fourth reincarnation.
Regulation is reactive. “If there was anything wrong we would have been shut down by now” is not a blanket rebuttal to a wonky compensation plan.
Based on Wor(l)d’s compensation plan, I’d be pretty confident that should the FTC investigate they’d find the majority of Wor(l)d’s revenue was sourced from affiliates.
That’s not good enough. Primarily getting paid when you sell to recruited affiliates is a pyramid scheme in MLM (ref: Herbalife, Vemma).
The majority of sales need to be to retail customers. If an MLM company is primarily generating revenue from affiliates, regardless of what affiliates are spending the money on, that company is operating as a pyramid scheme.
Do you know how many are customers and how many are affiliates. Where is the line drawn that would constitute a legitimate business and not a Ponzi scheme?
Wor(l)d International do not make this information public.
Generally speaking though you can make an educated guess on whether significant retail activity is taking place by looking at the compensation plan and seeing what affiliates are paid to do.
If there are no real retail incentives and chain-recruitment is possible, it’s likely that chain-recruitment is taking place.
Strictly speaking about 50/50 revenue generated via affiliate purchases and retail sales at a minimum.
I’m gonna investigate and get back to you.
That’s what we trying to tell you here. It sounds to me like you decide to ignore it… Your choice.
Poor analogy and a kind of BS excuse to me.
Edison and Jobs suffered while struggling to invent and produce ingenious and unique products. Galdi repeatedly used (verified) Ponzi & pyramid scheme to get (himself) rich quickly. No suffering involved.
Galdi has no research centre – his (physical) products were merely dropshipped cheap China craps (if they were delivered to customers at all). Selection of Galdi’s product is follows the wave of popularity and currently used “buzzwords”.
I saw the same for previous Galdi’s “products”:
Hundreds of happy people celebrating first Power cloud plant opening. Rants on FB with proves of “passive income” (affiliates were paid correctly within the first year after the launch or so…but they need 5 years to get their investment returned).
Conventions and conferences (=recruiting events) organised by local “leaders”.
Numerous post on FB promoting AdKash using “viral” videos (“Incredible – they are paid for using their phone!”).
All (or most) of these “happy” people were scammed in the end.
I think, better and more important analogy is here outlined than yours (with Jobs and Edison).
I wish all good to all good people (and that’s I dedicate my time to write this post to warn and protect them). Come on Fred – Fabio is a typical serial scammer.
Does he change his way of business operation and mindset? I guess no.
Why should he change himself? He is relatively “successful” with the things he does!
You mess with wrong people. There can be only two results: You win (by becoming one of the scammers and top recruiters). Or you loose (money, friends, reputation).
I pray you to be right, but don’t give it a fair chance.
And please – could you send a link with a proof of Toshiba cooperation with Helo (World)? Or you ment only that World’s shares are exchanged on the same market (OTC Pink?) as the shares of Toshiba?
Yes, are endorsing. You do.
People were basically happy for one or almost two years with Powerclouds, Telme, AdKash… Bait and switch strategy. You have to satisfy first victims and make them thing positively to “successfully” spread the scam and make it more “popular”.
Chance close to nil. Keep on hoping. You do not have a proof of his change.
Wolf remains to be wolf even when dressed in human clothes.
Well… waste majority of “opportunities” claiming to be MLM are in fact scams by design or (at least) have flawed business rules, allowing to take “pyramid recruitment” route.
And almost anything what can be abused… is abused in the end.
Again – what stock market are we discussing now?
Is it stock market operated under US supervision? Or is it some “pump and dump” cesspit market like OTC?
Just the fact that multiple ex-OneCoin promoters are now promoting Wor(l)d/HELO should by itself indicate where the money is coming from.
(Not retail sales.)
Fred et al, Is a monthly fee required for continued access to current readings from one’s HELO device beyond an initial 30 day free trial?
I’m not talking about being an affiliate, distributor, member or anything other than just the ongoing cost for basic end-user functionality of the HELO wristband itself.
Aren’t those complaining about the price missing a very important point, that the features this unit has FAR exceed anything else on the market.
I’m a doctor and I have another doctor friend in my office demoing a unit in the hopes of my joining as an affiliate. I must say I’m impressed with the unit.
My main motivation for obtaining and selling these units is the blood pressure measurement.
As any doctor knows getting your patient to regularly take their blood pressure is very difficult, yet a day to day pattern of blood pressure is crucial in understanding and treating high blood pressure.
Granted the device may not be medical grade, they have a disclaimer that results may vary greatly and are not clinically accurate, and I don’t think there is any research or clinical trials in measuring the effectiveness.
Anecdotally in my office I compared it to a manual BP and a nurse taken BP and it seemed quite accurate, so possibly it may be useful when averaged over time for a patient, especially if the alternative is having no readings at all.
On their radar supposedly is glucose monitoring, which would be huge if it happens. There is no non-invasive method of glucose monitoring yet so I take that with a huge grain of salt, but I know big hitters such as Apple and others are actively working on it and it’s only a matter of time.
One thing I would like to see added is Heart Rate Variability, I’ve found this very useful in monitoring chronic fatigue patients and even personally in knowing when to work out.
My last concern is if the MLM pyramid does collapse, what does that do with the patient’s data, both past and future. Will they have a way to store their data?
More importantly will they be able to monitor their data in the future without the $20 monthly membership? If not then this becomes a paperweight very quickly.
Some observations re Wor(l)d and Helo.
I have been trialling a Helo LX (a friend signed up and bought the family pack). Its a nice product (the packaging is beautiful) and the readings for blood pressure do not seem to far away from readings from other monitors.
It reads heart rate, breath rate, mood and energy. But that is IT. No blood sugar or blood alcohol readings, which really would make it unique.
These are promised! It remains to be seen if these apps appear, which may justify the price level.
But, it is clear there are similar and much cheaper alternatives and the Helo starts to look like a slightly modified Chinese product available on drop shipping.
The monthly $59 payment is not linked to the functionality of the Helo; it variously insurance, ability to enter a business and a “savings plan” where the $59 can be turned into $69 of product. (I think the numbers are right).
My friends upline appears to have given up and no support given.
There is a FB based group called UCan2 which is doing its hardest to encourage as many people as possible to participate in webinars and various other activities with a view to signing them up. There seems to be little interest in actually promoting the products and it is clear that they are not interested.
Like all previous World products there is much emphasis on silly titles like President. These people like to go off to Bangkok for a one day conference with other Presidents.
However, whilst 2 members of UCan2 are Presidents, they have admitted that it is actually 4 of them aggregating their sales/sign ups in order to achieve a President status for two of them.
World seems to allow two partners to become Presidents. So the reality is that to achieve President status quickly, it needs to input of 4 people not just one. Misleading?
One of the more louder of the UCan2 team did not even have any products to sell (a very proud moment unwrapping the Helo’s when they finally turned up) suggesting that their “success” is not actually down to selling any products.
It’s not actually possible to find HQ of World. Even the stock market listing details are vague. The company is quoted on an OTC market not the Nasdaq as has been suggested by Golden Couple Chad and Nattida (former Organo Gold purveyors).
As noted previously, alleged scammers such as the Islam Brothers have appeared as Presidents – remarkably fast! – you are known by the company you keep.
In conclusion, whilst the Helo product is nice but not unique, it is overpriced unless the new features come online soon. World is clearly about hyping the product(s) and then working with other well known MLM players to entice others in with the promise of a business opportunity that will give them a millionaire lifestyle.
The products are not being shipped within a reasonable time frame and World remains an opaque company.
Sorry if this is bit long and off-topic in parts.
There is no monthly fee for me. I have my Helo set up to give me updates every hour. I also have the SOS signaling if I’m in trouble or if any of my readings such as BP or Heart Rate gets to high or low it will signal my wife and brother.
There is another feature that’s called the Gaurdian which allows up to 20 people to follow your readings in real time from anywhere in the world.
As explained to me, if you had say an elderly parent that was living alone and you just wanted to checkin on them and their vitals to see how they are. You could do that from anywhere with your phone.
It allows you to follow be followed. That service is $12 per month for your whole membership. Say you bought a family pack, it would cover all Helos in that subscription.
Thank you Fred.
Surely as a doctor you’d be wary of relying on readings from a non medical grade device? If you screw something up the liability is on you.
Dang you wrote a book. Anyway you can google Toshiba World Global Network and get plenty of 3rd party articles explaining the relationship between the two companies. Not sure with all you know about World why you couldn’t find that.
The Wallstreet Journal wrote a good article and also illustrated Worlds stock history and momentum.
Google WMRT Stock Price and BAMMM there it is $23.55 today. And yes it’s listed on the US OTC market. So are the 10000 securities on their markets are traded through SEC registered OCT Link ATS.
I’m pretty sure Toshiba is Japanese so the reference you made to the cheap drop ship from China is not a credible accusation.
I just found out that World is having the largest webinar in network marketing industry at 8:00 tonight. Over 50000 from all over the world have registered.
I’m gonna watch to see what it’s all about. I’ll report back and give you my perspective on it for you and anyone that would be interested.
Maybe Oz won’t delete it for being off topic. Guess what my Helo is still on my arm doing exactly what I bought it for.
So long as it’s not marketing spam, sure.
Fred sure rattles off a lot of info for being just a customer.
I’ll answer that. Yes, inherently.
No I just googled all that to try to see if his points were credible. I’m not just gonna take everything he says as 100% accurate.
I mean for all I know he’s a guy still livin with his parent workin at some bulls it job for just above minimum wage.
If I could I would go back thru my google history and screen shot everything I just read and down load it on here. Look it all up for yourself.
Just watched the live stream of World. It had several introductions of top money earner that gave a short story of why World.
Most of them stated they weren’t looking for anything but when they saw the product and what it had to offer they got on board. For the most part they knew with all the benefits of the Helo, that it was a no brainier.
Then it went into the presentation of what the Helo is and its benefits, talked with the concept designer for the Apple IPhone and watch and also a guy named Taylor Worre.
Talked about Fabio and several good things that he’s accomplished that no one has mentioned on this site and then the business opportunity.
Chad and his wife put on the webinar and their last request was to get back to who ever invited you to get back to them with just a simple answer of your interest level.
A for very intested from both a product and business opportunity, B for interested from just a product only standpoint and C for no interest at all.
I had seen a presentation on video before I bought mine but this was more like a slide presentation with breaks to bring guest on to tell their own short story.
All in all very informative. I think I’m gonna text my buddy and let him know I watched. He shared the live stream info on FB and don’t even know I watched.
After hearing some of what world has done for them in just a few months I’m at an A.
Wait… No blood pressure measurement from your wrist?
You are either very easy to impress or just think it will be easy money.
Either way when people see they can get it cheaper its game over on all the people you duped into buying one.
Its so easy to look up prices on things its not like 100 years ago where it was hard to compare and shop with so few choices.
China will have their own version of this and so will the masses soon after.
@Otto my mistake – Helo does allow blood pressure monitoring.
BUT according to World official press release:
Wor(l)d Media & Technology Corp. To Report First Revenues In Excess Of $500,000 For Quarter Ended September 30, 2015
Impressive figures!! The sales people managed to earn even more than the company itself.
$500,000 in retail sales and $157 million in affiliate fee revenue?
Sounds about right for a pyramid scheme.
The HELO devices are, in fact, manufactured in Shenzhen China by:
Quality Technology Industrial (QTI)
Room 201~203,2/F,Block B3,Ming You Industrial Products Procurement Center,#168 Bao Yuan Road,
FCC documentation from June 13th 2016 which cites Quality Technology Industrial as the manufacturer
Further, I have personally confirmed HELO devices are being drop shipped to US end-users from Shenzhen, specifically “World China, Room 603, East Block, Coast Building, 3rd Haide Avenue, Nanshan District 518000 Shenzhen China, People’s Republic”
As far as Toshiba is concerned, the so-called “Partnership” with World appears to be nothing more than a standard purchasing agreement for TZ1000 chips.
More interesting info can be found on World’s Quarterly Financial Report filed June 8th 2017
Under Intellectual Property –
“ We do not currently have any patents or patent applications in process. Any future patent applications with respect to our technology may not be granted, and, if granted, patents may be challenged or invalidated.In addition, issued patents may not provide us with any competitive advantages and may be challenged by third parties.”
Under Revenue Recognition –
” Additionally, on October 1, 2016, the Company introduced a licensing revenue model, where WRMT provides its Life Sensing Technology, branding and device designs to approved manufacturers who take orders directly from distributors and pay WRMT a fee per Helo unit shipped .”
“Since October 1, 2016, the Company derives Under the current agreement, the preferred Helo manufacturer pays WRMT a once-off, non-refundable fee of four dollars ($4.00) per Helo Classic and five dollars ($5.00) per Helo LX shipped from its manufacturing facility ”
Made in China,
Shipped from China,
Soon to compete with it’s Chinese Manufacturer who’s making and marketing their own improved versions,
Not patented nor are any patent applications in process,
Being licensed to third parties with World increasingly separating itself from the process.
Thanks for confirming what I said MONTHS ago (April 14th, here on this page). This is nothing more than a pulse oximeter, and one is available in every smartphone already with a free app.
Actually, according to the statement, all 500K are from “licensing activities”. Retail sales was listed as ZERO.
Page “F-2” of the quarterly report.
There’s another gem hidden in the report… It says that in April 2017 they signed an agreement to incorporate a certain company’s blood alcohol sensor. That means such a sensor may be in the NEXT version of HELO band… and basically admits there is no such thing in the current version.
So for current owners, it’s not coming soon. It’s NEVER.
Corroborated in this reddit post:
No surprise there. You and everyone else = pyramid scheme
Why is the guy who sold you this willing to forsake you as a customer? Think about it.
For all your googling I’m curious, have you bothered researching MLMing like I mentioned before?
P.S. MLMers are some of the best liars. Please don’t listen to everything they say on stage. Ever heard of, “Fake it ’til you make it” or read the book Merchants of Deception?
following up on the fine detective work produced above, it would seem the Helo is a variation of the Around smartband produced by Quality Technology.
No sales figures are given on the manufacturers website. but a price of $87 per piece minimum 10 pieces is available from Trade Lizard:
Great job finding the path to purchase Skeptik!
I’m interested in finding out if it uses the same Toshiba TZ1000 chips as the HELO.
This is the product home page, in case any one’s interested:
$14 – $31 a piece !! plus shipping…plus a fancy box.
Wholesale price is $31 each for the display version, in lot of 100. The non-display version is probably $20 each at most.
Wow, basically WorldGN marked it up 1000% by changing the buckle and the band.
Finding summarized in my blogpost:
Very nice work Kasey Chang!
As I and others have pointed out, the OTC disclosure they filed after that convention reports they do not have any patents or patent applications in process.
Found this youtube video of their Bangkok convention last month, after the OTC disclosure was filed –
Skip to about 11:20 minutes in to find Fabio Galdi speaking in front of a giant screen listing Glucose Measurement as “Patent Pending”.
So which one is it?
* BEFORE after the OTC disclosure was filed
I did not bother to search for this (based on previous experience with “magic” Wor(l)d products). But – thanks you for the hint, I did it now.
Most of the articles I’ve found are somehow sourced from World.
The one that seems to be from Toshiba website is this press release:
Yes, it is press release and it smells like press release. Impressive? No.
But wait… identical press releases (containing same sentences and even whole paragraphps) are published elsewhere and sourced from World Media & Technology Corp – mind you: World Media = marketing branch of World.
Cui bono? Who profits more from this press release? Definitely World, not Toshiba. How this press release (with 99% probability prepared by World Media) appears on Toshiba web site? I am not sure.
The press release is in fact innocent and seems to be true (message: Toshiba produces special processor which are – besides other things – also used in Helo fitness bands)… so did World bribe someone from Toshiba to publish this? Or had World a friendly and cooperating webmaster in Toshiba – who knows?
But it’s not the first time I see some sneaky company building its reputation this way. Specifically – World had positive reviews of their past products (in fact: paid press releases) published in Wall Street Journal and other media. They know how to buy publicity.
Here is a proof of real Helo band producer and manufacturer:
…and here you can buy a product (Helo band) from manufacturer above:
OK, Fred. Let’s say… Toshiba produces TZ1000 chips which are used in Helo bands – which are manufactured and dropshipped from China.
Product purchase via Wor(l)d is for $319, small series (bypassing World) can be be for $14 – $31 a piece.
Was I wrong when I’ve said “World’s (physical) products were merely dropshipped cheap China craps”?
It was true for phones, tablets, routers, remote keyboards, glasses… I referred to the past products, but it seems to to be true again for Helo band.
My apology and exception for the “crap” – I cannot tell if Helo is a crap, it seems to have a quite good reputation and reviews… but wait again… I’ve heard these positive testimonials from mouths of World affiliates only (including you), so I cannot take it too much seriously.
Especially when I see that many of your statements are exaggerated and false (lies).
Fred’s gone awfully quiet. Wonder if he’s still an “A”…
Thank you, Mr. Czech, Oz, et al, for continuing to pull back the curtain!
Toshiba TZ1000 family of chips, aka the ApP Lite ™ family, is not a magic ECG chip. It’s just an ARM Cortex M4F CPU with integrated features like BT and multiple sensor buses designed for wearables. And it was launched at the end of 2014. It’s hardly new.
Even Toshiba didn’t bother naming devices using this chip. The only one who tried to latch onto Toshiba’s name was Worldgn, so much so a lot of the Worldgn reps actually assumed the device was made by Toshiba when it’s only the CPU inside. You can assume that a good chunk of cheap Chinese fitness bands use the chip too.
I just realized QTI’s product line, like a 5.5 inch bezeless phone (the INFOLIO) is the same as World’s product line.
I seem to recall World GN used to have a “3D phone” and a “VR headset”. Guess what… QTI’s product includes a 3D phone and a VR headset.
Thank you for acknowledging them as “chunk of cheap”
(Ozedit: If you know it’s offtopic then don’t post it. And if you want to spit the dummy do it somewhere else.)
HELO band (render) and AROUND band photos put side-by-side. The identical backplates are hard to explain by any other reason than having the same internals:
For the record and Fred – I did not say Helo band is bad product “per se” (I have no info about quality from independent source).
But I would not purchase it through World whose prices of dropshipped products are rather inflated. Moreover: delivery (and guarantee) is problematic with World.
Nor did I. Let me clarify the two scenarios:
#1 A decent product can be sold via, VIA MLMing. MLMing is a faulty, inefficient method which requires the customer to typicallly overpay or over buy. They use the overpayment as Ponzi money. Real customers find product cheaper, affiliates can’t retail it, and said affiliate participates in a recruiting pyramid scheme and loses. (A)
#2 A useless product that can’t sell normally on shelves is used by MLMers as their pseudo product to mask the Ponzi scheme.
Either way, unless you’re willing to be an “illegal recruiter lying scumbag” – aka leader, aka Ponzi schemer, aka successful MLMer, you lose Fred.
I’ll give the benefit of doubt and lean toward #1 with Helo, which brings us back around to the self-admitted A!
@Fred – As a customer of your buddy, and since you love the product, why not be a good friend and send some customers to buy from your buddy? The word inherently should come to mind.
Just to add a little information that was left out. I actually purchased a HEalth Life Oracle (Helo) because my Dr. took me off my blood pressure meds.
This device is more than a fitness tracker, it performs an EKG, blood pressure, breath rate, and everything a fitness tracker does.
I was extremely skeptical before purchasing the device but I was tired of hauling a blood pressure unit every where I went (I’m a little paranoid about my bp).
Got the device, and the damn thing works. I check it against my blood pressure unit weekly and haven’t had issues.
As far as a display, I think the next one coming out will have one (do not quote me on that), but honestly who needs a display when everyone is glued to their phones anywase.
Info is sent to an app on the phone. And you don’t need to pay 20 dollars a month to use it.
I don’t sell these, but I’m a firm believer in the device, and want to clear any confusion regarding them.
So if your in great health, have no medical issues, a lower costing device may be better for you, but if you do have health issues, you need to take a serious look at this device.
@Fred As a product, the Helo is a nice product (I have a Helo LX) but it is way overpriced and as it is possible to buy a similar type of product and indeed one with more features for a fraction of the Helo retail price, then the conclusion has to be that selling Helos at this price level is not sustainable.
However, World is not really interested in the sale of Helos – its business is that of growing a network of sellers who buy the product, at its inflated price, in order to be able to sign up more people who sign up more people…etc.
If you were really interested in a health monitor, why would you pay up to 10x the price of a comparable product?
@Fred – Will you at least let us know when your HELO starts repelling mosquitoes?
Well since I haven’t been deleted I’ll answer. Exactly which product can I buy that will do what the Helo will do for a much cheaper price.
I want to compare for myself apples to apples. I was up last night and a notification popped up saying that I was getting an upgrade with the firmware.
I guess that’s part of the open API that I was told about. Let’s not forget they’ve advertised their own APP Store. And yes I will on the mosquito shield.
Looks close enough for me to bookmark and buy one for later on.
I got to show this to one of the reps that got mad at me for looking around for a cheaper one.
They will only be mad they paid too much.
or is it about being in the comp plan?
Check out this screenshot and the slide behind Fabio Galdi from Bangkok last month detailing what’s “coming soon” to the HELO LX – nolink://imgur.com/a/FvST1
Joining the line up of Glucose, Alcohol and Mosquito Shield are “Fertility Prediction” and “Flue Detection”.
I heard the HELO once briefly performed “Bovine Fecal Excrement Detection” but that feature was quickly removed via emergency firmware patch due to all units instantaneously maxing out CPU utilization.
OK… So that last part might not be true.
Also, as I previously mentioned, and have since confirmed via audio of the video referenced above, he’s now claiming to have filed US patent application for the Glucose Measurement stuff, which is contraindicated by their OTC filing a week or so afterwards.
I’ve never heard anything about bovine fecal stuff but, I have the other measurements. I’m not up on the OTC reports. I’m sure it will all be clarified at some point in the near future if it’s an issue.
yust wanted to point out that
“-figure out in time”
“-yust wait untill (insert random future date) when the company (insert random event) it will prove your all wrong.
are classic ponzi/pyramid looser arguments.
if you look around at the other pyramids scheems listed on behindmlm you will come across them from other fooled IMA/ponzipimps/affiliates in the comment section.
its more our less the same in other forums/blogs where freuds like helo/world gets disscused. we never se these fooled afiliates back when the pyramid colapses.
so dont overcomplicate/overthink what you hear and read. dont get bogd down i the trivia (like there is an ap. it has magical propertis. bill gates have 4 on each wrist and one on his ankle and so on.)
w(o)rld=fraud (pyramid scheme)
helo band = repacked lowprice QTI electronics (psudo-product to “hide” pyramid)
i hope we see you back in the comments when the pyramid colapses. (based on worlds prior history and nr of now attached Ponzipimp profesionals jumping onboard. this should be pretty soon).
(Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempts removed)
On a side note I’m still waiting on the make and model of a health monitoring band to compare with Helo.
I’m really curious and I don’t want to spend hours looking thru different sites and specs just to come up empty handed.
The Around + as noted above does everything and more than a Helo does, which is hardly surprising as it is essentially a Helo but at a somewhat lower price.
Comparing it with an IPhone is not relevant as you cannot go and buy an iPhone for a fraction of the price that Apple sells them for.
But the issue is World is not about the products, it’s about building the pyramid. Let’s not fool ourselves, people sign up to pyramid sellers to make money from signing up other people not selling the products. And it’s often the same people who move from one product to another be it coffee, one coin, beauty products, it doesn’t matter.
But there is nothing wrong with the MLM system intrinsically; James Dyson used an MLM company to help sell his early vacuum cleaners.
Fred, I wish you’ve bet on right horse, but sorry I stay sceptic.
Your are apparently too much in love with your Helo World to see the reality (like lovers do). But what I see here is the same old song and pattern:
Give people some buzzword product (any product – for the stage two product nature and quality is irrelevant).
Give people “the opportunity” and promise to get wealthy and rich quickly.
– Helo band is heavily overpriced – you can easy get SAME product (only in different cover) for much less. Or other competitive products – again for much less.
– World is fraudulent company and Fabio Galdi is top scammer, all his previous enterprises were traps for investors and affiliates.
@Fred – same make (QTI), newer model with built in display currently $31 min 1 unit order:
From a potential marketers’ point of view, it’s all too easy to get caught up in “Freds” defense of the Helo itself and to forget Oz’ comments in his original article.
Anyone attempting to sell a Helo via MLM, is competing against multi billion dollar companies with multi million dollar advertising budgets whose products already have brand recognition AND no name (usually) Chinese companies with similar, if not identical products at a much lower price point both types freely available, both online and in retail stores, providing instant gratification for those unwilling to wait for delivery.
Throw in the fact pyramid selling is illegal for a reason – it doesn’t work for the vast majority of participants and the dubious history of the founder /s then any legitimate marketer and / or potential recruit looking to join Wor(l)d International will be left asking why anyone would bother, thus removing the income potential of recruitment for the “Freds” of this world.
Interesting and informative. Well done. My girlfriend life partner is involved with this company and has been involved with three other MLM companies.
One company had actual good products. The other two were basically scams. This company looks to be another short termsuccess
This other model from HELO’s maker, QTI, QT-B02, seems to have an even greater physical resemblance to the HELO with same feature set, like the Around models.
Can’t tell if this one has a built in display but if not, it might literally be the same internal hardware wrapped in a different case and band –
OK, looks like the QT-B02 does, in fact, have a built in display.
Found it on alibaba for 1 piece min (no bulk order requirement) –
My comment above got cut off (by me by mistake). To finish: This company has all the marks of a pump and dump. OTC stock. Pink sheets! Stock was even put on stock watch for a while in January. Financials sketchy and always posted very late.
As for the “patent pending” claim this is likely pure BS. Their own recent and late financials with the SEC say there are no patents or applications filed and there is a far distance between a patent application filed and a pending patent. So this is just another baseless claim.
I spoke to two of the leaders in the MLM part of this company and neither had bothered to read the financials.
Check out the financials and how little is spend on R&D (note also patents are expensive). Note how many shares are outstanding. A ridiculous amount for a company like this.
The watch may work but let’s see if they win the Nobel Prize with their claims of a coming device to measure blood glucose, blood alcohol and repelling mosquitos (the latter likely being the completely discredited use of ultrasonic sound waves).
This company is a scam and MLMers from other MLM companies which are foundering are all flocking to it.
Hopefully the links provided to the Around, Around+ and QT-B02 bands in recent posts are what you’re looking for. The Around, Around+, QT-B02 and HELO devices are all made by the same company (QTI) in the same factory in Shenzhen China.
You’ll find the Around, Around+ and QT-B02 device’s officially published features not only contain all those of the HELO LX as officially acknowledged and published on Worldgn.com (“website.worldgn.com/products/helo/helo-lx-features/” AND “website.worldgn.com/products/helo/helo-lx-specs/”), but several more, such as a built in display in the case of the Around+ and QT-B02 devices.
Speaking of officially published features and specs, while I’ve seen plenty of unofficial marketing, i.e. created and disseminated by third parties, the company’s official HELO LX site acknowledges only THREE (3) “Hearth [sic] Rate, Breath Rate, Mood and Fatigue”
Screenshot at time of this post –
Why is WGN willing to publicly and officially acknowledge only three (3) features, leaving all the rest to third party generated content?
I think WGN knows better and instead endeavors to maintain plausible deniability by hiding behind their third party associates, the claims for which WGN technically has no legal culpability.
Fred, when you get a chance, please let me know what you think. Thanks.
I am surprised with the lack of any independent reviews of this company or its product Helo. I can only figure they are not on anyone’s radar yet. There are plenty of really amateurish youtube MLM videos but really nothing else.
I would never invest in a company with such a poor record and not standing by its products. A lot of claims are being made of great (and scientifically breakthrough) innovations coming soon by a company which spends very little on R&D, which licenses its main component from Toshiba and which has a company in China do its marketing.
For a world headquarters in Florida it also appears to have very few employees and my guess is that it is a small office if that. But don’t try to tell any MLMers any of this – they think they are going to get rich and just will not listen.
The company is also fond of corporate hell games. Fabio Galdi resigned earlier as CEO and is now merely a majority shareholder, but he’s holding onto a different World company (incorporated in Barbados, if what I remember from the SEC report was correct) and they have some complex cluster-f*** arrangement in place.
Add to the fact that the WRMT claimed ZERO product sales in 2016 (all 500K in revenue are from “licensing” as per SEC report), really makes you wonder how many HELO bands did they “sell”? Or did they disguise their revenue under a DIFFERENT company’s name?
I was also surprised by the lack of critical content out there, especially considering the amount of people that have been burned from the legacy schemes like powerclouds, space crap, lumina, etc.
From what I can tell, most victims are either
a) too embarrassed they fell for it
b) fear jeopardizing relationships with their up/downlines, which are usually close family and friends
c) fear of legal retaliation
d) still hold a tiny glimmer of hope that they might manage to recover at least a tiny bit of their money and remain silent for fear of absolutely never getting anything back
As for the last two, consider this from world’s 03_POLICIES_PROCEDURES_USA.pdf :
I have. I show friends all the time and tell them where I got it. A few have some haven’t. Everybody is different with different needs and wants.
It doesn’t bother one way or the other if they buy or not. I just pass along the information and they decide.
Thanks, FortySixAndTwo. I had not seen this agreement language. It is common for MLM companies to have such draconian measures and restrictions but I think the “sole discretion” power that they retain even goes a bit beyond the pale.
As to lack of critical content so far, there are a couple additional factors:
1. Helo is still quite new and has not gone through its cycle yet (I bet the company will fall on its face on customer service for instance); and
2. The wonderful life changing claims the company is promising are still a moving target (they can keep delaying these promises for awhile to keep folks on the hook).
I mean, really … if they develop what they say they are going to come out with on their extremely limited R&D budget (and these products would truly be worthy of a Noble Prize), for a product they don’t even own the internal invention on … then this company will be greater than Apple.
How likely is that? Especially coming from a pink sheet OTC company with a history of failed products.
But the ability of many a person to continue to believe in the face of contrary facts when he is promised riches is boundless.
But then do you tell those people that they can save $150 and get a Helo on Ebay? Or a different brand and save even more?
Yes, I am contradicting what I said earlier on purpose about sending your buddy customers. I know I wouldn’t feel right ripping off my friends if I could save them a buck. See the conundrum?
It’s a no win with MLMing and makes parties, funerals, and family reunions very awkward for everyone.
Wow. Yall are relentless.
I’ve looked at the Alibaba Qt-B02. While there are several items that are comparable there are still a few things the Helo offers that the Qt doesn’t.
Alibaba is just an e-commerce platform that sells products just like Amazon and EBay does. Quality Technologies actually assembles the Qt. So I’m not sure about all the R&D.
I did however see an article about Quality and World forming a partnership. The CEO of Quality had expressed all good things about world and they very happy with the MLM model and bringing over 3 million Helos and 1 million smart phones to the market.
Now I don’t know the inter workings of these deals and don’t pretend you do. But, you have promoted Alibaba and indirectly Quality.
Well turns out Quality is high up on MLM Toshiba unveiled the Helo at the 2017 CES convention.
The Helo offers an open api platform, its own APP store, incoming upgrades & upgradable firmware, WeCare and Gaurdian functions, Germanium and Himalayan salt stones, rewards program with insurance program and of course the reason you have this blog “the money making opportunity” which they do not guarantee income.
I read their income disclosure and it clearly states that some will make “$0”. I’m sure there is other stuff I’ve missed or don’t know about yet. But, it’s Friday and I’m ready to go start celebrating July 4th weekend. (Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempts removed)
@Fred or anyone else – please let me know how to register as a developer and access the open API.
For the life of me, all I’ve managed to find are references to it and essentially propaganda about how wonderful it is, but nothing about “how”.
Fred still sounds like a smooth MLMer pitching this. Just sayin…
And he’s conveniently avoided all the MLM horrors we’ve pointed out. And there’s this:
Nope because he’s in this. Duh!
he has to…..it’s his only hope to recover his losses.
Very interesting comments! Do y’all know all this for sure or is it speculation?
I just saw that the Helo LX was voted #1 product of the year in Business For Home website.
Where are all the technology journalist articles and youtube videos from the invite only presentation of the new Helo band hosted by Toshiba at CES 2017?
…by Wor(l)d International affiliates.
Polls on BusinessForHome are meaningless.
Valuable source of information + rankings! The rankings where the business winners are voted by whom? Affiliates of the business itself. Sounds to me like the winner is the one with widest and most loyal affiliate base.
Wor(l)d did it before with the project of solar panels – Power Clouds. They’ve got Solar Power Award in 2015. Victory thanks to votes coming from affiliates.
Project Power Clouds actually collapsed in 2016.
Except BusinessForHome was also the website that voted ZeekRewards CEO Dawn Wright-Olivares CEO of the year, (not to mention an endorsement for ZeekRewards) and looked how that turned out…
For the record, World did not buy a booth there. As for Toshiba, Toshiba Semiconductor and Storage have a suite over at WestGate resort, NOT in CES itself. There is no record of what was shown “off-site”.
All of what, exactly?
I’m sure there is other stuff I’ve missed or don’t know about yet. And yet people post fact after fact and you still try to “hint hint” promote this to us here.
You won’t make many friends here or sales.
Its interesting to note – the choice between helping people and helping yourself. I think we see the choice you are making with each post you do here.
Please remember you were warned when it all flops dead.
2) App store has a total of SEVEN apps in it. TOTAL, that’s including its own HELO app and the sample blood oximeter app, and the HeloAppStore FB page has only 118 followers.
3) The so-called open API is filled with mistakes like “examble” (yes, that’s exactly how it’s spelled) and is purely a Bluetooth access API. The link to LifeLog API goes nowhere.
4) ANY device nowadays has upgradeable firmware. If you’re hoping for new features like the promised blood sugar and blood alcohol, you’ll have to wait for the next PHYSICAL version of the HELO, as there are no such sensors onboard.
5) AROUND has the “SOS Alert function”, same thing, as pointed out before.
6) So you count the ability to clip a mineral to your watchband a “feature”? When it can be done to anything watch band?
7) “Rewards program and insurance program” So you can insure something that costs 10X it should be?
8) Nobody guarantees income, non-sequitur.
Sorry, you’re clearly not up to date with tech. Such devices have been announced earlier this year, for much less ($114 at first site I checked) same features.
How do y’all know which one is accurate? The cheaper version seams like a Cracker Jack price. How can they offer with that much technology so cheap?
Or perhaps, you’re just looking at it the wrong way: why is HELO so f***ing expensive yet offering so little compared to existing wearable companies like Fitbit, Jawbone, and even Microsoft? Heck, HELO doesn’t even have a display!
So, I’m standing in my local newsagent this morning and notice a display board next to the counter filled with Chinese made “no name” brand products, such as SD cards, USB cables and storage devices, mobile phone covers,chargers, earpieces etc, and AUD $36 Fitness bands labelled as having the same features as the Helo.
THAT is the market in which you’ll be competing, “Fred” so forget about comparing the Helo with Fitbit, Jawbone or any of the established brands or models.
Throw in a highly suspect compensation plan and you’ll be needing every bit of luck you can muster if you think your future lies with Wor(l)d International.
Good luck to you and your family.
I see your rely boged down in the in the details (pyramid scheme “details” like, it has an app, Bill Clinton has 5, It has magic properities, The LA lakers enduorse it, the king of Sudan is realy intrested).
Try applying “Ochams Razor”, it lessens the confusion and gives clear answerers.
w(o)rld=fraud (pyramid scheme)
helo band = repacked lowprice QTI electronics (psudo-product to “hide” pyramid)
Omg, I was just going to post that on the Bob Wood Nexxus thread as he is the antithesis of Ockham’s, and such a scammer, but I fell asleep. This guy is the master of misdirection. You should read his posts. Anyway,
(I also posted this on a different thread I think. I’ll repost) MLMing is something that you have to “do”, a model that is followed, and the “product” is in a supportive role – very important that Fred comprehend.
It’s like “stabbing” and then getting bogged down on the details of brand of knife, metal content, and cost. In the end, the guy has a hole in him and he’s bleeding to death. For context, Fred needs to google stabbing, not knives.
No it does NOT. Officially, it only has four features, as per HELO’s own website:
Heart-rate, breath rate, Mood and energy, heart-check (ECG)
Here’s one that does the same thing, for about $100.
Anything offtopic is marked as spam. This isn’t a platform for you to rant and rave on about nonsense that has nothing to do with review you’re commenting on.
For anyone wondering, Fred has failed to respond to any questions posed to him since July 1st (#208).
He has however left and continues to leave countless offtopic comments though, most of which hurl abuse and rage at myself and BehindMLM.
well fred is a complet retard (strange how thay gather like flies to rotting carcass in mlmpyramids/ponzis).
thanks for an awsome site and great rewives. Ocham would be proud. also thanks for a well moderated and extremly fun comment section.
Confirmation that Quality Technology Industrial also made the Space Lumina glasses:
Confirmation that Quality Technology Industrial also made the Space Station:
So true, Mark!
Poet Saul Bellow said it slightly better:
I know I am venturing a little in the off topic range. But I wanted to clarify for Fred and others the economics of a high end retailer. Apple, IBM, etc all have a complex retail and wholesale structure. They make their money by building something for less then they sell it.
If World blah blah, had you buy your “health tracker”, which is still a fledgling market, for like 75 bucks, and you got to sell it for whatever, then maybe that would be a plan. And they paid you when your sales exceeded X number of dollars.
As a former Amway guy. World is still producing it for hardly anything, selling it to you at an inflated price, then inviting you to sell it at the same price. Do you not get how the only ones that really make money is world?
My article has been enhanced to show the similarity between HELO LX and QT-B02, with back and front comparisons.
@Kasey Chang – Big Thumbs up! Thank you!
World’s Space Phone 5G was made by HONG KONG IPRO TECHNOLOGY CO.,LIMITED as the “IPRO ACRO A58” –
HONG KONG IPRO TECHNOLOGY transferred it to World in July 2015 –
From HELO FAQ:
Its called a watch band.
Don’t over complicate things
He’s a day late and a dollar short.
Looks like the state of the art product.
Let’s hope the data read from the air are very accurate (like some of the fans of this band pointed out).
This same HW is available for half the price.
These MLM pimps say HELO is so accurate to detect body signals that it justifies the double price.
The official FAQ from Wor(l)d says that this superbly accurate HELO is so accurate it cannot even tell the difference if it’s on the wrist or not.
Let that sink in. 😀
There was a post highlighting the World/Helo as top MLM product as expressed in a recent poll. Readers may be interested in a FB post urging all followers to cheat:
Soliciting for votes… quite usual situation in all competitions with poor rules.
All the competitions with score based on voting by the participants themselves (or by the broad audience) are almost always a subject of the manipulation with the votes.
Mostly the winners in these competitions are not the the best quality or most beautiful child, girl, product, idea, photo… whatever… but the one with the best promotion.
BTW, third winner of this “competition” is OneCoin. Draw your own conclusion about quality of such competition.
C&N are way more than just sanctioned cheerleaders, for all intents and purposes, they’re World employees.
Nattida personally produces nearly all of world’s social media propaganda and has done so for years.
She posts intimate videos of herself driving World’s new mouthpiece Taylor Worre between FB live broadcasts at corp offices and even selfies of her and Chad’s double dates with Fabio Galdi and his wife at dinner.
She published fake product hype videos from world corp offices, including one last year of her unveiling the supposed second generation double screened infolio which was clearly nothing more than a piece of plastic.
Something interesting from wor(l)d’s FB live session posted on their official page yesterday 7/12/17 @1:02PM EST
Skip to 19:40 into the video to hear Wor(l)d’s “International Director of Communications”, Taylor Worre, explain:
“…our compensation plan is dictated and predicated upon you bringing people into the business. That’s how you unlock all the benefits of the compensation plan…”
Clip of wor(l)d officially admitting that recruitment is what their “compensation plan is dictated and predicated upon”:
The latest appears to be a claim that a Press Release was issued that the company is going to Nasdaq.
I can find no such official press release but only a claim on the company blog. (This company appears to be artful in making untrue and grandiose claims through affiliates and third parties – this is often done to avoid legal liability.)
Given the requirements and vast differences between a major exchange like Nasdaq and the OTC (and pink sheets at that – even after a thirty day death skull stock watch was placed!), I believe it extremely unlikely that WRMT will be allowed on Nasdaq itself by Nasdaq’s rules and review requirements. Its financials, as lacking in detail and always late in posting, frankly just stink.
It would have to pull of something like a reverse merger with a listed failing company. And the claims of products to come from this company are simply for the naive and the gullible.
They don’t own the technology and their R&D budget is tiny to what it would take to come up with products they claim are coming in the fourth quarter.
What this really is, is a scam pump and dump married to a classic pyramid scheme compensation plan with a lot of people taking advantage of a lot more people. This company is a short term MLM wet dream.
@Mark CEO Fabio Galdi has stepped down from WRMT as has the CFO, which is a bit odd if a company is really to step up to the Nasdaq!!haha
The opaqueness of the structure of the business is further underlined by the number of different companies/organisations/names used.
Galdi is off to drive sales of Helo as CEO and Chairman of WorldGN. There is also a business called HEKO which is the same name as the app used on a Helo.
official financial release:
To achieve these goals and create significant value for WRMT, Fabio Galdi as agreed to dedicate himself to driving Helo sales as CEO and Chairman of WorldGN. Sean McVeigh, will take over as WRMT’s CEO to deliver on WRMT’s objectives.
WorldGN could be World Global Network which does not appear to be any legally constituted body ( I stand to be corrected) and there is clearly deliberate aim to suggest that WorldGN is the same as WRMT.
So far I’ve gathered the following entities fall within the scope of wor(l)d’s operation:
World Media & Technology Corp
World Global Network Corp
World Global Network Pte. Ltd
World Global Cash Pte. Ltd
Anch Holdings Ltd
Power Clouds, Inc
From what I gather so far, it seems Fabio Galdi and Sean McVeigh are the principles in an ever evolving PONZI, with them spinning off these various business entities, shuffling capital, stocks, controlling interests, debt, etc between them.
Could you guys help me put the pieces together?
I think they’re shuffling revenue. Public companies need to disclose financials, private companies don’t.
One company claims to have NO retail sales… all revenue came from ‘licensing’ to a different company (same owner).
WOW. Unbelievable. I (naively) bought into this deal early in the year because of my boss – who actually made a lot of money in Visalus – which I immediately identified as crap when he approached me with it years ago. So I bought a Helo – and man is that an overpriced piece of crap.
You HAVE to have your smartphone next to you the whole time for it to work – and not only that – you have to have your smartphone connected to even see if the damn thing is on or charged-up; the bluetooth connection constantly failed – and without being connected to your smartphone – you can’t tell if it’s because the charge went out or something else.
You can’t use the Helo app and the Heka app at the same time (the Heka app is the one that measures BP) – and the only way I could find that out was on a blog.
It takes measurements when not on my wrist – that to me is a HUGE red flag and unacceptable.
The fact that it does not have any display info at all and can’t work without a smartphone is just clumsy and annoying. the thing is not comfortable to wear and the germanium stones are hocus-pocus.
The thing is marketed with the promises of “what’s coming” – blood glucose, blood oxygen, blood alcohol, etc. – Not coming from that device, I can assure you.
The $59 per month enables you to monitor multiple family members, participate in the commission plan, and get free upgrades and replacements – but now I know that – along with the high cost of the device – are what pays the commissions in the structure. I promptly cancelled.
I’ve been lurking in the secret FB group and following all of this heavily – and the brainwashing and gullibility factor is astounding (okay – I’m somewhat guilty since I bought into it – but I had extra cash at the moment and said “why not?”).
The big Vegas party and the weekly FB “training/motivation” sessions – it’s all to keep selling each other in the organization how wonderful the technology is and how this is groundbreaking ground-level opportunity stuff.
This all reinforces what I’ve thought all along – MLM is a cult – there’s no better way to describe it. A CULT.
It’s really frightening and scary. But – what’s entertaining is watching this thing collapse and come tumbling down – just as expected – and to see all the people suckered into it eat crow when you think to yourself “See – I told you so”.
Did you manage to actually receive a refund? If so, how long did it take?
Danny Turner AKA Ozzy osman Khan, Daniel Schafer and Rainer Barton from MAPS have all jumped on this pile of expensive crap now, they have a closed FB group I infiltrated HE HE.
Thanks to everyone supplying me with this info. I just had someone close to me pitch Wor(l)d/Helo LX to me, which raised a number of red flags with their product/business model.
You have saved me having to find most of this information out for myself.
FWIW, ECG activity tracker from China is now available for $31 on DHGate.
Sometimes when reporting the earlier days of a product / company, we need to show patience’s, and with a little reassure you would find that the Helo is the 4 biggest selling Wearable technology wrist band 2017.
It’s not a Fit monitor but an health monitor keep your eyes and ears open on this product and in if you’re out in the USA I would recommend looking at the company shares WRMT … This company is going places….
Yes of course I’m a proud WGN business partner…
News clip from the Todays show on Wednesday 26th July: youtube.com/watch?v=WeMroirqEhI&t=5s
Wishing all you readers a blessed, healthy happy future,
I hate to break it to you Fitz, but Wor(l)d International affiliates buying airtime to run Helo advertisements on TV doesn’t negate the concerns raised in this review. Neither does any of the marketing spiel you posted either.
That TV spot is the equivalent of a spammy press release with affiliate ref link.
Wareable lambasted HELO LX as “overpriced” and “avoid”.
And the HELO rep’s reaction to this is to offer a free one to the reviewer. Muahahahaha. Offer crap to someone who declared it crap.
re the “sales figures” as reported by Wor(l)d, it is not clear the source of any of the figures, not least that Wor(l)d itself has not made any formal announcements since last year. Also, Apple was not included on the list.
Not even remotely accurate. Try looking beyond the intentionally ambiguous marketing propaganda in your back office.
Just google “WRMT pump and dump”. Even the uber sketchy penny stock exchange on which they’re listed felt compelled to label them as “caveat emptor” or “buyer beware”.
To steal a line from Fat Bastard in Goldmember “Even stink would say that stinks!”
How can it be when 2017 isn’t even over?
According to WRMT itself in SEC report, it delivered merely 100000 HELO bands in 17Q1.
Xiaomi shipped 3.6 MILLION units in 17Q1, according to IDC.
Stop making **** up. It makes you AND WorldGN look bad. And that’s honest and friendly advice.
I actually bought a set because of an elderly grandmother and my adopted daughter.
Her bio mom is a bit scary and there was an instance when she was late walking home from school. By the time I knew she was late, she could have been gone 45 minutes or more.
Also, my husband has bleeding issues that landed us 29 days in ICU last year.
We have tested it and tested it. It works. The guardian system works.
I don’t care about the payout. I want it on my family and loved ones. A fitbit is not going to send out an alert when you are in danger.
Yes, I tested it before I bought more. I started with one.
It seems there’s a lot of uneducated people on here that don’t know the difference between an illegal pyramid scheme and a legal and completely legitimate network marketing company. Pyramid schemes do not have products to sell, network marketing companies do.
As for the Helo being overpriced, people pay that much and more for a Fitbit or Apple watch that don’t have half the features of the Helo.
Can you monitor your loved ones with them or receive an alert if they are in danger? No. Do they pay you to wear them. No. Do they have their own app store? No. Can they perform an EKG? No.
As for the Biozen, do some research before you open your mouths. It has been scientifically proven to work.
I wouldn’t be without my Helo, just for the panic button feature alone, let alone all the other benefits that most of you are so ignorant of.
What price do you put on the health and safety of your loved ones? For me it’s priceless.
Looks like you’re one of them. Pretty much every MLM pyramid scheme these days has a product to sell (ref: Vemma, Herbalife).
Feel free to provide any evidence of such.
You’re late to the party. We covered all this in the comments above.
This site is impossible to reply to.
It does what it says it does. It is not a fitness band, it is a device that I consider a safety device. Your $100 band is not going to alert your loved ones and trusted guardians if you are physically in danger.
I will manage my subscriptions to the site because I can not respond.
not really……so far you’re the only one that has shown up.
My $31 dollar band is made by the same company that made the HELO LX and has the SAME feature called SOS alert. In fact, even the button is at the SAME PLACE.
Yes, there’s SOS alert panic button.
Nobody pay you to wear it. You pay them to wear it PLUS monthly charges. You get paid when you convince other people to buy it.
App store? You only have 7 apps in there, including the HELO app itself.
And yes to ECG. After all it’s made by the SAME COMPANY.
See for yourself. It’s your HELO LX with a different face and a DISPLAY, which yours don’t even have!
At least you folks stop bragging about blood alcohol and blood sugar which your precious watch can’t even measure. Wait, were you going to mention that next?
You can buy a genuine safety device including a built-in GPS and has no monthly fees. Heck, it even has three level of alarm (green, yellow, red) and costs less than $100.
What you got is a $31 dollar fitness band from China that you’ve been told is worth $300, and you’re backpedaling hard trying to justify why you paid $300 for it.
And which features are those? You said it. Now back it up.
Just for your education, Apple Watch 2 had a panic button app since 2016, and Android Wear had a panic app since 2014.
That’s an embarrassing, uneducated statement. Who told you that, your upline? See Herbalife and Vemma.
Pyramid schemes have people willing to pay for a product because of the lure of the income opportunity. This often results in a grandiose opinion of the product that they think is going to make them money. Sound familiar?
You’ve said it yourself. You’ve bought it because of the promise of the income opportunity! Come on…! Stop lying yourself about the real reason!
Would you purchase the same HELO because of its “health monitoring” features without attached income opportunity? Even if you can buy equivalent (same manufacturer, same features + display, different design) for $31 instead of $349?
And if I understand correctly – if you only wear it, they don’t pay you. You pay them! You give them your “real money” (monthly fees in Loyalty Program) and in exchange you’ll receive “Points” (which you can later exchange for limited selection of World’s products and services).
On the other side, I have to admit HELO is the fairest, most realistic project and possibly the best opportunity from World and Fabio Galdi so far (but it does not mean it is a good and fair business at all).
Well, inflate the price of the product and have marketing strong enough to sell it under such a price is a dream of any production company.
The trouble is… in long terms, you you can keep the inflated price only if you have no competitors (which is not the case here).
Recap the troubles with Fabio Galdi projects… the projects were always terminated before maturity (and the return of the investment form most affiliates). And the most of the projects were not grounded on realistic base:
“Shared” wireless network + free VoIP call provided by WiFi routers in possession of the network of the affiliates (technical nonsense)
designed as a scam, already collapsed
Mobile advertising revenue share application
Promised “revenue share” (+ MLM commissions) exceed significantly usual revenues in advertising business (business nonsense)
Collapsed before the most of affiliates got the initial investment back.
designed as a cam, already collapsed
Revenue from investment into solar panels. Shared revenue (+ MLM commissions) generated by of production of solar energy.
Promised revenue was higher than realistic production gain of solar panel. Only 4 power station units were built (instead of 20).
designed as a scam, already collapsed (significantly earlier before the maturity of investment)
Reselling World phones, tablets + VoIP call
Commissions on reselling drop shipped noname “World branded” Chinese phones and tables (hardware was heavily overpriced). Second generation of phone was a real crap. Recalls me business plan for HELO bands.
probably “fair” business (except inflated and non-competitive price, business already left
Reselling Lumina Glasses
Similar model as with phones and HELO band. Commissions on dropshipping noname VR gadget.
designed as scam, already collapsed – many affiliates did not even receive ordered and purchased gods
Reselling Space station computer & router, building 5G mobile network
Combination of promised commissions on reselling noname hardware + restarted concept of Telme network. Building mobile (VoIP) network over the network of private WiFi 5 GHz routers? (technical nonsense)
designed as scam, already collapsed – many affiliates did not even receive ordered and purchased gods
Reselling HELO bands – healthcare wearable niche
Commissions on reselling drop shipped “World branded” Chinese wearble health and fitness bands (hardware is heavily overpriced). probably “fair” business (except inflated and non-competitive price, business running – so far…
More links: https://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/world-international-review-overpriced-helo-fitness-bands/#comment-383699
Conclusion: Fabio Galdi is a serial MLM scammer. His projects are profitable opportunity for himself, not for the affiliates (except the ones heavily focused on a recruiting).
Good luck on making business with him!
Apart from the Helo/Heka apps, none of the others appear to be functioning or available
The company promised to announce a date at the end of July for the launch of the new phone…er, the spokesman ignored messages for an update and no new news, Surprise!!
Wor(l)d proponents: Dunning-Kruger.
Thanks for this reference of Dunning-Kruger effect. After a long time I soaked here some new and inspiring information.
To generalise: this effect applies not only to Wor(l)d proponents, but also to the majority of income opportunities proponents. 😉 We can see them virtually in every discussion where some wannabe MLM or affiliate programme is uncovered.
Logical consequence (just for fun, I don’t know the source and its reliability): imgur.com/a/RdRLk
Wor(l)d is telling customers they can’t issue refunds due to “Technical Problems”.
More and more people are posting screenshots on Wor(l)d’s official FB page of responses received from wor(l)d customer service telling them “all refund operations are interrupted due to technical problems”.
Meanwhile, wor(l)d posts video telling distributors to “act as if everything is completely normal”: youtu.be/kJ1YA0AdqrE
I have a great HELO success story. I left my Helo on a wooden table and I’m glad that I did.
Even thought my table had normal BP and RESP, it had a very high HR of 163 with a normal energy and excited mood.
Thankfully, I was able to get some furniture polish on it. Hope this helps.
My granite counter tops are in much better health with all normal readings. The sleep of both was excellent with over 12 hrs each!
I wish my numbers faired better. I have a pulse ox and BP cuff and the Helo was accurate at times but then would be way off.
HR 40, BP 157/98 yet my machine (calibrated at doctors office) showed 123/79. And yes I have calibrated and recalibrated deleated the app numerous times and it just is not consistently accurate.
As for Blood Sugar that they are hyping, Apple is working on this and are several years away.
If Helo really had a Blood Sugar App that worked, Apple would just buy their company out of petty cash.
I really wanted this to work as it would be a great business opp, but I just can’t sell this to people after using it. Just my two cents.
lolz @captain helo
Kasey Chang. Is there another place I can find the wristband you mentioned?
This link you posted Aug 3 says item is discontinue: globalsources.com/gsol/I/Smart-bracelet/p/sm/1150144759.htm#1150144759
My husband is a dear sweet guy, VERY vulnerable to MLM B.S. I’d like him to read all the comments on this page, but I know he’d take Fred’s side – the “I don’t know about other people, but it works for me and I’m not hurting anybody” side.
Before I met him he had become involved in multiple different MLM companies – never really siging up people, but buying and making the absurdly expensive products available to others.
He bought and still believes in the Amega wand, magic pain patches with germanium et al substances, magic purple rice powder, special mushroom instant coffee, etc etc etc, the list goes on.
I’d like to at least show him where the exact same product can be bought for a fraction of the cost.
I have read each comment above and looked into every link (some don’t work).
People can be oversold there are some awful MLM people out there but there are also good ones.
Am I sitting on the fence? No way and I can speak from experience. I have been at the end of my patience with people trying to sell me diet shakes, skin cream, tee and coffee.
I have an Apple Watch it’s boring if I’m honest I’m not a gadget person really.
I have a fitbit why? my husband bought it I have no idea! But when I heard about the Helo I wanted one for my 87-year-old mum who is amazing but frighteningly independent.
I’ve done MLM with Forever Living and I hated it. However I was never told Helo was an MLM product when I first heard about it.
I went home to my family showed them details and it was my family that suggested I sell them too, it was only then I went back and asked was there a possibility I could sell them I was told it was an mlm company and if I’m honest at that point I nearly said no thanks, but I wanted one so much for my mum it sounded like it was worth a go.
A business in a box for £1300 was cheaper than a new machine for me.
The $59 a month was also ok too because it gives us cloud space to store the Helo readings ongoing, insurance policy to cover the devices but we actually get $75 in credit for goods everytime we pay the $59.
So in actual fact they give me back every penny +$16 so money wise it’s a very good deal.
Does my mum like wearing a Helo! Not really but we changed the band to a nice leather one that she likes and it’s more acceptable and knows it makes us feel more at ease.
Is she worried about not wearing the Germainium stones no she prefers a nicer band that is easier to put on.
Mood and Energy? I thought what a load of rubbish! Still do really.
Do I wear a Helo well I’m shocked to say I do. Considering I hate my fitbit and my apple watch, I do wear it BUT I think only because of a shock I had a week into wearing it.
My dad died after having a stroke, my vitals had always been ok so I wasn’t expecting to find I had a problem but I had a blood pressure problem, the doctors were shocked at how accurate the readings are.
They can’t understand how it works but then that’s not my job or theirs to understand. I do machine embroidery I don’t know how the computer works or the machine it just does what I tell it to do.
The doctors use all sorts of other equipment they have no idea how it works they just use it and are glad of it.
Yes at $199 they are not cheap. More if you want Germainium. It’s more and you may well laugh because I did at first, my elbow doesn’t hurt when I wear it.
I don’t understand that either but if it stops pain that’s good with me.
I went without my Helo for a few days and put the apple watch on I really didn’t like it and gave it to my niece, I then put the fitbit on I tolerated it more than I had but I didn’t feel safe I wanted the readings in one go and to know I’ll be allerted if things aren’t good.
I feel safe with the Helo. I am 60 and hope I have a few more good years left in me I believe that I am helped by the figures and information Helo provide I will.
As a business well because of needing to make healthy choices to keep within safe parameters of my vital signs I have lost weight, avoided an operation and people around me can see the difference so everyone wants to get on board and join the business.
Will it make me a millionaire NO I doubt it ever will but it does mean I don’t need to work weekends and evenings anymore and I think within a year my income will be 100% from Helo.
Diabetes runs in my family I can’t wait for the app to be available as well as the blood oxegen app.
So you can say what you like about MLM because yes it does come with a bad name but that’s down to people behaving like idiots and forcing people into stuff.
I call the Helo my magic wristband because it is, if you haven’t tried it don’t knock it and my neighbour is the worst he has spent £££££ trying to show me it can be bought cheaper but nothing he’s bought works like a Helo in fact most have stopped working full stop!!!
This is where your marketing spiel falls apart.
People around you “can see the difference” you attribute to Helo the product, but their first instinct is to “join the business”?
That’s not typical retail activity. That’s pyramid recruitment activity.
How? You just stated that you’ve lost your customers as everyone around you wants to sign up. And won’t they be targeting the customers that you could’ve had?
Worse still, don’t you care about the numerous scammers you are rubbing elbows with? Ewww
Congrats on spending so much space for telling how awesome income opportunity this will be (re: “it does mean I don’t need to work weekends and evenings anymore and I think within a year my income will be 100% from Helo“).
For the beginning of your post I made the mistake I thought you were trying to say Helo is a good product.
What comes to paying extra for a HELO and expecting to get something special, feel free to pay $112 for the band, here (visit link) is the same hardware put into a different band for $87 / piece. SOS functionality included for your convenience.
(No need to thank me.)
Now what comes to paying extra for the germanium stones:
In case your daily life and stress (along with electronic equipment) cause muscle stiffness and pain to you and you’re convinced wrapping germanium pieces against your skin will – ahem – “reduce stress, balances your body ions and stimulate the activation water molecules in your body“, I believe nothing I say can convince you to think otherwise.
(But as a friendly advice I wouldn’t make too much noise about the awesome powers of the germanium plates in public if I were you.)
Holy crap….. you did not seriously just say that. You just repeat anything you hear?
Without a search explain API quick.. while you are at it, please share with us how a running an update has anything to do with it.
Hell man, you just need to shutup now. Do you have any idea how dumb you sound to people who actually know what they are talking about?
Ok, so what can you buy with the 75 credits?
But Gents!! I heard the HELO gives rock hard manhood and cures baldness and restores skin to youthful freshness! Also cures herpes. It is true! I saw this in their press release.
And if you tell just 2 friends about it? Well, BAM, you are a millionaire and never have to work again.
New apps coming for HELO- Elon Musk technology. Yes. Helo will allow you to travel into space. How cool is that?!
A friend of mine has been distributor since April of this year. To say he is struggling is an understatement.
He works 16 hours a day 7 days a week trying to recruit new distributors. He averages about 2 new recruits per month but only has one person on his team who is also recruiting people.
She averages about 1-2 recruits per week. He has given up trying to sell the Helo (not much money to be made from commissions on product) and just focuses on recruiting people who want to do “the business.”
Problem is since there are no repeat sales, he is constantly trying to recruit new people. He even buys more family packs and executive packs to try to level up in the “organization” but all he has managed to do is win more vouchers for vacations he can’t afford to take (the vouchers are worth $2000, same as a pack of Helos he has to buy to win it!).
Ironically this has caused him much stress and high blood pressure according to his Helo but he has no health insurance or money to do anything about it.
He has no other income since his upline motivates people by telling them to “burn your ships” in other words go all in so you feel you have something at stake and basically no other option but to make it work any way you can.
It is very sad because he won’t listen to anyone but his upline and thinks they care if he succeeds.
Reality is if he succeeds his upline gets paid, if he quits his recruits move up and his upline still gets paid.
He averages about $1000 (sometimes a little more but usually less) per month in commission which is good for supplemental income but not enough for a single grown man to live on.
Live n Learn. If he is handing earnings to buy more Helo units. Good for him!!
You can’t convince people to stop losing money. They just have to go broke so reality sinks in.
This is the best information I have found so far. My sister has been brainwashed into this pyramid scheme and nothing I say will make her listen. She actually won’t even talk to me now.
She tried to recruit me by selling me a $1400 pack, saying if I was one of her two spots I would have it made. I watched the video, I told her it all sounded way too good to be true and that it was a scam.
I looked up everything I could on Fabio and the company and found more and more damning information. They are not accredited with the BBB, but have an F rating because of all the complaints against them, most of which WorldGN never responds to.
I’ve tried to distance myself from what she is getting into, but she is a single mom who is under water with her mortgage and property taxes and now she is going to the convention in Las Vegas and getting into even more debt.
She’s trying to talk family into signing on and she’s even put the Helo on my father, when it clearly states it should not be worn by anyone with a pacemaker.
I can’t understand with all the complaints, with Fabio’s history and other shady characters involved, why this company isn’t being investigated.
There should be more of those here:
1. My Helo was dropped shipped from China and the Invoice said $26 USD ?????
2. The SOS feature is unreliable.
3. The Steps count and Blood pressure readings are not accurate.
4. My “magic” Helo gives me 2 hourly readings even when I’m not even wearing it!!! Even a Sleep report when I’ve left it overnight in another room.
5. So how can you count on its accuracy if you are monotoring an elderly distant family member?
Thats if they can manage to put it on their wrist in the first place.
It’s just just a Toy, cannot be relied on. I am so angry that it was promoted to me as a reliable device.
A useless product designed to create possible wealth by those that have no morals.
You can always get a refund maybe? Saying it is defective.
Let the “world” Know the truth!
And did you pay for it $349 (Helo LX personal bundle according to World GN Store pricing)? If yes – it was a “good” deal (for World GN).
Yes, $349 ($510AUSD)!!! And I dont even wear the useless gadget!
But as someone else said, my furniture is getting 2 hourly readings.
Just watched a video of Fabio talking on stage at Vegas: he said the next Helo will be more “accurate”.
So I am right in saying the current one is an unreliable piece of junk. And everyone will be expected to upgrade next year and buy the new model.
How profitable for the company…
One of the first things I do when doing Due Diligence on a product based company like Helo is to straight to Ebay and see what the cost is.
Then I ask the person promoting it, Why would I buy it for 400 from you when I can get the same product for 26 dollars on Ebay.. Oh yeah… if I dont want to wait I can pay 71 dollars and get it in a few days from a U.S. Seller.
Point being…. When you are paying 600% to 1600% more for a product when you have to buy it from Location A compared to Location B….. that is a serious problem and it will never go away until one of the LOCATIONS usually goes away… and trust me… EBAY is not going away!!!
Cheers and GOOD NIGHT ALL YOU AMERICANS!!!
I’m not a gambler but if I was I would bet my house that the glucose measurement never happens.
They just had their convention and didn’t even mention the glucose measurement. That will be swept under the rug and they will start promoting the next thing.
It’s the holy grail of diabetes research, with thousands of recearchers worldwide spending hundreds of millions of dollars to come up with a non invasive way of monitoring blood glucose levels.
IOW, it’s plain marketing b******* and there needs to be a special punishment for the criminals behind the claims.
Yeah but pregnancy test and mosquito shield will happen, right?
If it is, it better happen in a bloody hurry.
The Alexa figures show a drop in global rank of over 12,000 places over the past 90 days.
I saw that the developer portal for the Helo App Store is now open. Does this mean that all of the new functions will be available soon?
They ticked a box in their App Store admin side so the recruiters can brag about a new success. Any developers who have actually signed up? Any apps in the App Store?
Which has now turned into a 17,000+ drop in ranking over the past 90 days.
If you read the API, the answer is there are NO SUCH capabilities in the API to implement such “new functions”.
BTW: does anyone know what happened to the other Wor(l)d GN product – The Infolio Smartphone?
It was announced in early June with the announcement clearly stating that “All information regarding the availability of INFOLIO will be revealed next week”.
Now – almost 6 months later – I still can’t find ANY information regarding the availability.
It’s not listed in Wor(l)d webstore, nor are there any other press releases than the one above that would actually provide the info “next week” or even next month.
Did they just silently bury it?
After Vegas conference they said Infolio only available for those on the Loyalty program ($59p.m).
Havent heard anything since as the WhatsApp group I am in, never talk about the products, only hype. Lookin more like a pyramid to me.
Neighbor tried to sell me one of these, he said it would test blood sugar and alcohol in your blood.
He also said the new update will tell you when you’re about to fart so you can leave the room.
I just don’t know what technology it is that can predict what my bhole is about to do.
So let’s have an honest conversation,
I come from Wor(l)d, which I left two months ago. I was one of the early adapters in the company once the wearable made its debut.
In my most humblest opinions, stay completely away from this company.
This company has a horrific history of maintaining their Customer Service, as well as refunding reps for many years now.
A leader in the Wor(l)d just walked away from the company and called Wor(l)d a glorified Ponzi Scheme. Which I have to agree, however Ponzi would not be the correct word to describe the inappropriate actions of Wor(l)d.
I could actually type a chronological calendar of bad behavior, unethical business tactics, clever stalling, smoke and mirrors, bait and switch, outright lying of why they lost their merchant account, deception concerning the Infolio, why they often extend their week cycles, how their products work 30 to 40% of the time, embarrassing miscalculations, the incredible amount of returns of their HELO LX last summer and how basically the field runs the company.
Trust me, I could go on for a long time explaining the miscues and lack of people ranking in Wor(l)d, how so many leaders who achieved high rankings could never grow their business past that ranking again, how most likely 98% of all the leaders in Wor(l)d only had to build one leg, how its almost impossible >>> or really hard to rank up in Wor(l)d and how the leaders know that the revolving door will keep bringing in fresh blood to suck dry.
I need to go to bed, I will type more if requested.
Oz, I don’t always agree with you, but you scored a bingo with this debacle.
Integrity, I would love to hear the chronological calendar. Which leader left? Explain the merchant account thing also.
I ‘ve always had a bad feeling about this company since a friend got involved in it and I feel like it’s days are numbered.
Yes, indeed, I’m also interesting. The idea and concept looks pretty good, but i see this, surely from outside, but i had the same feelings.
I think this community would also be happy that you can share this with us.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
I got sucked in to the MLM, and only because I thought the product was something I could get behind.
Both my wife and I used the HELO for several weeks. My wife is a loyal FitBit user, and she compared both.
The Helo LX didn’t come close to matching the accuracy of the functions of FitBit, but here’s the real kicker. I calibrated my Helo for blood pressure monitoring and it seemed pretty accurate and consistent.
Then I tried testing my blood pressure with the device off of my wrist. Miracle of miracles! The blood pressure reading was exactly the same!
Just to be sure I didn’t have a faulty device, I did the same test with my wife’s Helo, same results! That’s quite impressive that it can take all my readings while sitting on the bedside table.
Run, don’t walk if approached with this amazing business opportunity!
My friend called me last night still trying to get me to enroll in this business.
He said at the CES in Las Vegas, World just made some announcements that will change humanity.
1)The non-invasive blood sugar monitor/app/device is “coming soon.” And
2) the BioZen is now classified as a Class I medical device. I asked him what that meant and he laughed as he answered “I have no idea.”
So I looked it up. This is what I found…
Also from fda.gov:
I wonder if the Helo will also read glucose levels whilst sitting on the bedside table????
And will everyone be waiting another year for this useless crap. They promoted the double sided Infolio which was supposed to come out last july.
What are people getting after Feb 2018: only a single sided infolio!!!
Obvious conclusion: Wor(l)d has discovered tables have readable glucose levels.
No doubt they will receive a Noble Peace Prize in medicine for this accomplishment.
Does anyone hear any news that many World leaders are jumping ship to do crypto silently?
Here are more details about WOR(l)D non-invasive glucose monitor from my friend’s upline:
WOR(l)D wanted to make sure the accuracy of the software was as high as possible by introducing the additional device for the HELO called the HELO EXTENSE.
The HELO EXTENSE, while connected to the HELO LX or HELO LX PLUS, will allow you to estimate your sugar trend levels with incredible accuracy up to 9 levels through the Sugar Trend Software!
WOR(l)D decided to include the EXTENSE device for FREE with every purchase of the Sugar Trend Software!
Sugar Trend Software – Price $299 (over a $500 value!)
Extense Device : Included FREE (plus shipping & taxes)
The accuracy of the sugar software will vary based on the device:
• HELO LX = 3 levels (Low, Normal, High)
• HELO LX PLUS = 9 levels
Official release date will be announced during February 2018.
BTW, the Heka Glucose-Monitoring Trial user guide released earlier by WOR(l)D says that the product (i.e. the EXTENSE device) value as 20 USD. (hekacorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/User-Guide_Heka_ok2.pdf.zip , page 20)
Hi @Integrity. I would love to hear all of the Chronological orders of your above statements, and which leaders leave too, and the unethical business done by them. Would be interesting.
Looking forward for your long detailed words.
Yes! I guess everyone is waiting patiently for your chronological answers of every “expose”.
So that was about using their affiliate base to make home measurements and gather data that they plan to use to calibrate their device?
Well that must make the device exceptionally accurate, considering none of the measurements are clinically controlled.
@Harrie- Kuvera Crypto Club… a crypto mining/ education/ mlm… part of a company called Wealth Generators.
Never heard of Kuvera MLM. Even WG has collapsed since it’s a ponzi?
Other than that, would love to hear from of World Global leaders as their Sugar Trend or Blood Glucose have failed to launch. And many leaders are losing volumes and are leaving.
Maybe jumping to another MLM is a right thing to do now for most world Leaders.
I noticed Tyrone Hutton is still pumping this ponzi. I guess you really can judge a “company” but the “people” they keep.
Looks like INFOLIO = UMIDIGI S2
??? Who copies who?
Well that is the simplest question to answer: Infolio did not originally look like UMIDIGI S2.
However, the phone got a magical facelift after the launch by UMIDIGI.
In contrast, Wor(l)d didn’t need to have a physical phone to show to the general public, they only needed a photo to their web page.
Oh now I see I left out a sentence. It should be:
…a magical facelift after the launch by UMIDIGI. UMIDIGI has undoubtedly spent 6 or more months to produce a phone they can present to the public in September 2017.
In contrast, Wor(l)d didn’t need to…
(Point being, it would have taken months for UMIDIGI to produce a physical phone matching a design from e.g. Wor(l)d GN, but it only takes hours for Wor(l)d to update their webpage with design copied from UMIDIGI launch.)
How is it this even “possible” or “legal” for WORLD GN to use other actual brand such as UMIDIGI to launch INFOLIO? Won’t UMIDIGI get informed of this legal right issue????
No one is copying anyone in that regard. It seems that World buys the phones from UMIDIGI with their own custom branding, a practice known as white labeling.
Also, from what I understand the phones are “bought” with loyalty points but World charges exorbitant “shipping” fees for them, like hundreds of dollars, enough to cover not only any S&H but the actual cost of the phones as well.
I think the wheels are starting to fall off at World. They appeared to have laid off their communications guy, Taylor Worre. One of the leaders left and hinted at seeking more integrity in a company.
The Facebook reviews are awful and people are talking about a class action lawsuit.
Their new version of the Helo is pretty much the same thing with no meaningful improvements. “Clinical grade chips” whatever the f that means.
It still doesn’t measure blood glucose and people are absolutely pissed about it. Stock price is in the toilet also.
To have white labelling for INFOLIO, and lied to their distributors with two “fake-advertising” INFOLIO is totally BS.
Which means, WORLD GN doe not even have a phone to sell. their CDO De Rosa is a complete joke. upfront lying on how good he is.
I wonder whether their leaders know how SHAMEFUL it is to have fake white labelling phone and still claim its theirs. a piece of BS
And now their LX + is another joke, which costs USD399, and LX is USD199. whats the whole point of buying a USD399 with no meaningful improvement, and its almost march, and there is NO announcement in regards on the HELO EXTENSE or their sugar trending software until today.
Prolly have to wait for their Taylor Worre.
Our last check on their corporate FB, Taylor disappeared for 2-3 weeks. Perhaps he was resigned from WORLD? I won’t thinking he was laid off, I think he “knew some fishy thing going on with the Italian brothers”, and decide to resign before the wheels fall off! Ponzi scheme BEWARE!
Stock price is sinking!
Helo LX+ is really odd piece of work. The store has no spec sheet whatsoever for it. One would assume there would be a list of things that justify the $200 USD additional price but no.
The WGN website does mention that Helo LX+ resists sweating but does not resist shower, wash up, swim or bath. That’s insane for a device you are by definition supposed to wear 24/7!
After digging deep enough I manged to find the brochure: NOLINK://my.worldgn.com/press/newsletter/brochure_helo_v2.pdf
It tells us the Helo LX+ is “Ready for Non-Invasive Glucose Monitoring”, with the footnote that “the non-invasive glucose monitor algorithm and apps is not included in the early release of HELO LX+. The upgrade will be available later”. I wouldn’t hold my breath while waiting for it.
In addition to that I capture that it has UV sensor and the green LEDs that track pulse are now accompanied with red LEDs (for what purpose?).
Good points for digging into more. I tried to read more, I guess all distributors are “mislead” for their “fake advertising” of non-invasive glucose since 2016. Which means it has been more than 2 years now, and NOTHING has been delivered.
Fake fake fake. And WORLDGN now use a copied phone to produce to the field. That’s a SHAME.
And yet the Global Master Distributors are handsomely being PAID millions for FAKE advertisement and misled thousands people to this PONZI. drive sport cars to entice innocent people.
In addition to that, I presume, many leaders will start a LAWSUIT against the Master distributors?
After reading all the comments and info, I felt sad for my friends who are being cheated to buy this scam products and those who still believe that this scam products can help them and give them good income.
I felt even sorry for those who bought this scam products at such exorbitant prices.
I did a thorough investigation into WGN when a very seasoned MLMer mentioned it to me.
At first it seemed very intriguing especially if they had a product that could read blood sugar in real time. Well that promise has never materialized and likely never will before the company falls flat on it’s face.
This will be yet another in a string of failures (ripoff scams) for Fabio Galdi. What is not mentioned here is the previous solar panel scam that preceded Power Clouds.
Because the company was listed on the pink slip exchange it was very easy to see what was going on financially, that is if they met their filing requirements on time, something they failed to do over and over and over again.
They blamed their filing delay on concentrating on other matters to build their business…scam. Their financials were clear and the numerous shell companies and change of names and ownership within such a short period of time spelled massive instability and lack of funding.
There is a reason people can’t return their faulty product and it is because they are practically insolvent and require the revenue from new members to barely keep this sinking ship afloat.
This is a 100% scam and the people behind it are the very best at swindling people out of their hard earned money. Run for the hills folks!!!
Also I forgot to mention. Who in their right mind would even try and compete with Apple ($250 billion in cash) who are actually designing their own chip to read blood sugar…something the also failing Toshiba chip will never do.
this is bad reputation. They just reshuffle the entire WCOR board of members again. Rebrand their logo again. 2nd time since 2016. But nothing is mentioned for their products updates.
Stocks have been dipping badly since nov until today.
So latest word is that key marketing material for “BioZen” was allegedly (**not yet confirmed to my knowledge**) faked and is actually a copy of Waveex test docs, replacing all instances of the word “Waveex” with “BioZen” and altering images with pictures of their own green BioZen sticker apparently pasted over the pink Waveex.
Original PDFs straight from the companies’ official websites:
Waveex PDF NOLINK://en.waveex.com/uploads/page_20170625FinalreportYakymenko2017.pdf
Another rebranding change to WGN 2.0 last week. previously was a change in their logo to a ribbon freedom theme. and then previously was their WRMT to WCOR. Then reshuffling the entire board of managements.
It seems like Fabio is repeating the same old patterns to cover up all the failed promises and products deliveries by re-shifting distributors’ focus to the rebranding, but the truth of the matter is, they are manipulating the masses and have failed since day one. Spacestation was a failure since 5 years ago.
Apparently, the Puranaputra’s families are in a struggling position right now (And entice the masses with their fake income earning claims at businessforhome), trying to revive their own movements with this WGN 2.0 movement on social media.
It’s the same old story of MLM gimmicks since they launched 2 years ago. But the sad thing and the truth is, Fabio and De Rosa have failed again and again, and using the masses to feed their pockets before the whole game sinks.
Pity the sales officer, Douglos and Dave trying to save this sinking unsustainable company while the Italians disappeared.
Lifelong was a failure.
Helo classic was a failure.
Helo LX 2nd was a failure.
Helo LX plus was a failure.
Toshiba chip partnership was a failure.
Software was a failure.
Hardware was a failure.
Heka App was a failure.
Heka App Plus was a failure.
Infolio was a failure.
Biozen was a failure.
Biozen plus was a failure.
Customer Service was a failure.
App Store was a failure.
Blood Sugar idea was a faiure.
Helo extense was a failure.
Alcohol monitoring was a failure.
WCOR/WRMT stock was a failure.
Management was a failure.
TD Pool Bonus was a failure.
Loyalty points was a failure.
Nasdaq listing idea was a failure.
….so many failures… Everything they do has failed apparently.
Diamonds have left. Presidents have left. Taylor has left. Top leaders have slowly left.
And yet some leaders are still lying to the masses. and listening to the Puranaputra’s families and Galdi’s families.
Interesting shows to watch for next few months on what dramas they are cooking right now.
Feels like only yesterday we had Wor(l)d affiliates on here going on about the blood glucose update…
Surprisingly, the first announcement of their alleged blood sugar monitoring capability was made in a press release back in January 2017. Something WGN would rather you NOT to remember.
Yes. Isn’t it irony. It seems it has become a norm and trend for the Italian managements to use this “ignorance” tactic to slide off their initial promises from the masses, and then refocus the masses to the “future gimmicks”, just to bring unsustainable hype to the masses.
All these are just to sustain their Global Master Distributors, Puranputra’s Income as long as possible, before everything goes burst before June.
Why June? Because based on Romacio’s FB Video announcement. The HELO EXTENSE sugar monitor “TOY” will only be released in End of May. Thats another 5 weeks before the DOOMSDAY.
The truth is, Fabio IS NOT able to even produce any glucose tech. All of these was a “old fashioned scamming tactic” to con the innocent masses since 2016.
The bright side of this, many leaders have already decided to resign from their position, and protect their reputation, and venture to other places; the dark side of this, there are still many “leaders” trying to lie to their masses to believe for the “Good days” and do whatever it takes to feed the top leaders’ pockets buy asking the downlines to stock up packages.
Right now for this 2.0 movement, Fabio is putting a new game, to distract the distributors to believe there are “app stores” for the DNA, nutrition customisation, fitness 2.0 app. which all of these are just a mere joke.
I wonder how many days left for these crooks, Puranaputra families, chad and Nattida and the galdi’s brothers to be put in prison and be sued by the distributors to court for scamming people since day one.
Any other ex-distributors here to share their thought?
I think its so weird that the videos the team leaders make that are intended for other distributors are shared publicly on Facebook. Why do they do that?!
Chad and Nattida recently did one where they were reminding everyone to have faith and believe and stop complaining about products not working and other things.
Why would they air their dirty laundry like that? It’s shocking they don’t keep that in private groups.
Why does the company extend sales cycles? What’s that all about? How many diamonds or presidents are actually able to maintain their rank?
This is a classic pop and drop company so I’m guessing it’s not easy to maintain.
Yes. Here are my personal thoughts.
Putting a FACEBOOK live Monday call is the WORST mistake since day one. Reason is, no other companies’ distributors would actually want to risk this. it only do more HARM than good.
worst case is with wgn, where the truth is the products are failure, people are awfully unhappy, and loyalty programme lies, and their promised features never delivered; all of these have caused more PUBLIC SHAME when other companies and other leaders actually watch the video.
It’s a COMPLETELY JOKE.
The number 1 reason for strong successful company is “Great products”. the sad case of worldgn is, the product is a plastic toy and its junk, and it has more than 75% failure products sent back to Hong Kong service centre.
Think about it, you have to pay your own shipping cost from USA to Hong Kong, just because of their toy products.
Of course, Chad & Nattida would ask their flocks to “believe in the vision”, because this is their “only hope” to sustain their”face”. But the truth is, many top leaders from other companies are “laughing their face off”at Chad and Nattida since last year.
They act so ego, they act so untouchable. and the thing is in the leadership groupchat, NO ONE is allowed to ask any questions.
Any questions asked in the gouachat, will be viewed “negative” by Chad and Nattida. And they will remove you from the group chat. Isn’t it stupid and childish?
To answer your question why does the company extend the cycle, is very simple. Because WorldGN does not have sufficient cashflow to pay their distributors on time. Hence the best way is to prolong the weekly cycles.
The truth is, worldgn is running in negative financial cashflow now.
Just think about it, this week they have to start doing PRICE REDUCTION DUMPING for their helo lx plus (minus -$150!). What does it tell the public now?
Means its only 2 months ago that they introduce another toy helo lx plus. And now only after 2 months, NO ONE wants to buy the lx plus since they lied about glucose extense (299$).
And with their newly appointed scapegoat, Douglas and Dave; in less than 2 weeks, they decided to price dump their HELO LX PLUS. this creates more anger and frustrations to their existing customers.
WORLDGN is a joke. Never have the industry seen such shameful company and product and management and also global master distributors.
Their doomsday will come before June. enjoy with popcorn.
Because people who get involved in MLM scams are not very bright.
All of the reviews that were on Worlds Facebook page are now gone.
That’s a good thing for them because most of the reviews were absolutely awful. It’s bad news for anyone considering joining and looking for information.
LOL! Of course they have to remove, in order to “Save their latest 2.0 rebranding”. It’s a PURE SCAM, NO REFUND, LIE. No company has such negative, and scamming reviews other than worlgn.
And thats why they have to rebrand their new lousy W logo last month for no reason, and rebrand their WGN 2.0 for no reason, and try their best to swipe all their frauds under the carpet right now, and distract people’s attentions to more apps coming soon. lol
Mr. Fabio has disappeared. now its the face for Doug to run the show. It’s all scam scam scam.
Apparently, It’s just a matter of time that WORLD will go bust, when Chad & Nattida loses all of their Diamonds leaders and President Leaders in 1-2 months.
Right now, they are just doing their best to hold on as long as they could while finding another platform to jump ship.
let me put this into proper perspective, Chad & Nattida are NOT stupid people. They are Smart, cunning and analytical.
They know since last year that Mr. Fabio CANNOT deliver any promises that are made. But since Chad and Nattida have already abandoned OG, and come over to WORLD, and do over-hype egoistic Facebook live, right now at this moment; they CANNOT lose their face to quit world to do other mlm.
All they can do now week after week, is to pretend to look happy and excited and talk about the stupid visions, and lies and lies; just to hold to their “face” as long as they could.
The truth is, Chad and Nattida are already looking for other MLM company with their parents. before abandoning everything in few months.
Get your popcorn!
On eBay classifieds in Germany, new HELO LX boxes are offered from 110 euros. Other offers for 120 – 125 – 129 – 139 – 155 – 187 – 195 – 200 – 220 and 249 euros or basis for negotiation:
No surprise for price dumping. As their models are lousy in quality. Its just a cheap USD$5 wearable from china unknown factory.
The worst is, NO ONE will buy helo even you sell for $50. but for nutritional product at least people will buy at amazon.
Once you tell anyone how bad the watch is they are promoting. They block you!!
One lady didn’t want to say I was right as I think she knew but wanted to get what she spent on her own watch back as some sort of profit.
Well we know how that is turning out!
Something Overheard at the company’s water cooler,
Hey guys, let’s blitz Asia because they will believe anything we say. It’s time we collect our loses in America.
Hmmm…Any facts of this?
Harrie, I was being the sarcastic. However, if you would like to challenge my other facts (which I have a lot) we can play that game all night long.
I’m on the same boat as you, everyone is SCAMMED by Galdi and those fake advertisement, fake visions.
Whats your other facts? And just lay it all out on the table.
The truth is, wgn is sinking. Chad & Nattida are already looking at other opportunities.
What are these worthless apps they are launching?!
An app that lets you “control your functional health state, learn levels of health assessment, adaptability of their organisms, level of stress, balance expenditure/recovering energy, improve quality of life, reduce the risk of unexpected health problems.
This is absolute meaningless garbage. Why do you need a device to tell you if you are stressed? Wouldn’t you know?! Who would buy this crap?
ROMACIO FULCHER BUSSY SCAMMING PEOPLE.
He has to! He is the 2nd guy after Chad in USA! If Chad is busy scamming people, as a follower of Chad; he has to also keep scamming people! doing roadshow and sell his lambo dreams
While Nat and Chanida are secretly looking for other deals and bring their top guys over!
In case you guys didn’t realise, the 3 SCAMMERS, Nat & Chanida, Nattida and Chad & Romacio are desperately in need of MONEY! They have lost out tonnes of leaders since last few months, and volumes have dropped drastically.
Now they are SELLING $70/person for LIVE STREAMING coach online! What a CROOK. Selling $70 dollar/person to their DOWNLINES to sign up?!! and teach them skills? Why can’t they even GIVE IT FREE for their downlines? It is NOT even a third party event. It’s their own organisation event, and they still CHARGE $70 per person.
Totally a SCUMBAG.
And the thing is, there are still faithful “blinded followers” who will give them their money. LOL
Has anyone heard about Wor(l)d lately?
By now I think they should have mosquito-repellant, blood pressure measuring, blood sugar checking, mood detecting, fertility predicting wristband available?
UTTERLY SCUMBAG! They have taken down the FB REVIEWS, too many negative reviews. I should say negative TRUTH.
Last heard in CES & Romacio FB, the glucose device will ship on in JUNE. That’s next month! But all is silent now. Corporate remains silent. They and the SCUMBAG puranaputra thieves families are swaying their SHEEPS direction to “SINGAPORE EVENT IN JULY”.
None of them are even dare to tipping into the topic of GLUCOSE. SHAME!
Thousands of good Samaritans have fallen into the FAKE ADVERTISEMENT of WORLD GLOBAL NETWORK since 2016! 2 years later, NONE of the super magic features are released!
I wonder how many Diamonds, Presidents are actually still building WORLD! SHAME
JUNE is next week! Just wait and see another DRAMA!
No Harrie, don’t expect any drama here. Exit strategy for scams like this is to retreat silently, or to claim and promise some future “bigger” (but vague) plans “coming soon” and don’t tease too much with near term promises and announcements.
Just to keep the victims in a false hope and under a critical level of their anger.
After an year or so Wor(l)d will pop up again with a brand new shining and limits breaking project.
20?? – Telme network (shared internet via home routers)
2013 – 2014 – investment into Power Clouds (solar energy units) + shared profit from advertising via useless smartphone app AdKoin/AdCash
2015 – 2016 – “Space era”: Space computer, Space station (home wifi router on 5 GHz band) + Space phone (mobile with VoIP app) = 5G mobile network… and Lumina VR Glasses. All prototypes, no real use.
2017 – 2018 – Hype with Helo bands.
You forgot the INFOLIO sticker that protects you from the harmful radiation of your smartphone and INFOLIO phone that has the feature built-in.
WHAT A REVELATION!
I saw this BEHINDMLM link and I spend almost AN HOUR reading every single comment! NOTHING TO DISAGREE! Everything said here is TRUTH!
WOR(L)D Global Network IS A SCAM!
I WONDER WHY IS THIS BEHINDMLM LINK NOT POSTED IN THE WORLD’S FB COMMENT? So that any public or their “INNOCENT FAITHFUL SHEEP” can click the link in the company FB page and read all of these comments!
@Denis – RE: “…Anyone please?”
1.) Because most of us follow our own favorite pet-scam-projects which we follow and are active on.
2.) Because you haven’t posted this yet. (Just be ready for them to open Chapter 2 verse 5 of the international Ponzi Playbook for the following Excuse: “That’s not a credible source, they see our popularity and are just looking to get “click-throughs” because they’re Penny-chasing-parasites (PPP’s) and jealous of our success, which shows you we’re doing something right, and its run by bitcoin [or whatver] haterz who are paid by bitcoin [or whatever product/ service/ crypto, etc] because they’re scared …and …and ….”)
Ps. probably the wrong thread, but Islam Brothers who bounced from Wor(l)d to Omnia Mining have allegedly now bounced from that (after also securing a huge downline to perpetuate the funding of their lavish lifestyles built on the misleading and broken dreams their victims were promised)
So the Extense was supposed to be launched this month, right?
Now the latest is World “secured the chips from Toshiba” for the Extense WHICH INDICATES THE THING ISNT EVEN BUILT YET. How do you show it at CES, say it’s going to come out time and time again then constantly delay it THEN make an announcement about the building of the thing?!
I legitimatrly feel sorry for the distributors. They attribute all of this to growing pains and stand behind the company for going slow and doing it right.
If they were doing it right they would not talk about and promise things that don’t exist.
This is so obviously a scam. How long will they wait around? 3 months? 6? 1 year? 5 years?
Doc, I feel you!
I was a “DOUBLE PRESIDENT” from Worldgn. Gotta change my name for this comment box!
No doubt last year 2017 was a HOMERUN for WORLD, anyone who comes in with the vision, will succeed. BUT……..it’s ALL just a SCAM we all buy into, from the crook chad and Nattida!
TOTALLY disgrace to Network Marketing business! ANMP & Eric Worre should BAN Chad & Nattida for being a SHAME to MLM! Lies after Lies!
It’s all SCAM! They now say they secured the chips from Toshiba, then whats the product expense explained and displayed in CES January?
Nothing was mentioned about Toshiba chip! This means it’s PURE SCAM in January to try to HYPE the business, with FAKE PLASTIC product, and articulated software displayed on the monitor screen.
Remember what Fabio says in CES? He DOES NOT allow anyone to even try out the protocol extense in CES January! completely a joke!
And they also joked that they are in final stage to get FTC Pending on the glucose since last October in Vegas, and 10 months later today, suddenly they say they secured the Toshiba chip. JOKE of the century!
Btw, any technology company out there has more or less the same toshiba chips, intel chip etc. but I never see Apple releases a statement and make a HU-HA that “Apple secured the chips from Intel”!hahahahhahha
And now WGN2.0 is broadcasting to the whole world that they secure Toshiba chip? *Facepalm*
Trust me, they are will collapsing soon! Nat & Chanida and Chad and Nattida are already paving their way out from world, and waiting for deals from other company.
July Singapore event is just another “Las Vegas October” show. They will talk about the stupid AI vision, Big Data vision, and their lousy app vision, and then lure the sheep to think that WGN2.0 is APPLE and AMAZON look-alike
The sad truth is! 99% of WORLDGN leaders (Diamond,DD, GD, P, DP,GP) are making less than $1000-$2000 ONE MONTH! *another face palm*
Go ask Nat & Chanida to show you their back office commission, whether they make $1.2 million as claimed by Businessforhome!
Go ask Chad Nattida to show you their $750,000 commission as claimed by Businessforhome!
They will get nervous and HEARTATTACK if they even show your their back office commission!
Now BusinessForHome is a PAID article trying to lure innocent people to join worldgn! with FAKE commission claim. pure stupid and disgrace to MLM.
Isn’t it fishy that the Corporate FB tech live which is supposed to be LIVE on 8th June, was cancelled then postponed to 22nd.
And its already 23rd today, and there is no corporate call by their CDO de Rosa on 22nd. And guess what, the company “deleted” the 22nd June wallpaper from their FB silently.
And they try to ignore this. but the whole FB is waiting for the lying 22nd call.
The truth is, there is NOTHING for De Rosa to share. All that he shared was “fake Application app.” and some stupid remarks on new “fake illusion”.
And I checked De Rosa’s FB today, and he has been dating with a young thai girl every single day. Since early this year.
I guess Galdi just couldnt grab de rosa’s heart now, as he has been flirting with the thai girl.
I even wonder does he actually “work on the project” of glucose at all. since he is so busy flirting for 6 months. Worst MLM ever.
Poor distributors out there who are still trying to blind themselves that WOR(L)D Global Network 2.0 is a new momentum, and its almost end of June. Nothing mentioned on the glucose delivery.
Their so called new APP which were announced last month went “silent” again. failed. Forget about the New Mexico teams.
They are as innocent as you. Fall into the “technology creator” of MLM. worst decisions for them to join over to WORLD.
Chad is a scumbag. He has been lying. A shame to MLM! He should just stay at OG under Holton Buggs and have a clear reputation.
Now Roma & Fulcher and Puranaputra are diverting peoples attention to Singapore. Another circus shows to cheat people’s money! but the truth is, many people have LEFT world months ago.
Management is suffering! Dave phelps is lost! Fabio is laughing at all the people!
Pity those who try to build their dreams with World, while the top scumbags enjoy the pyramid scheme!
Ask yourself, what is the ACTUAL product of WORLD? SHAME
I know both Chad and Nattida. Some of the fakest people I ever met.
That Lambo reveal at the automotive museum where it was gifted to him was totally staged. He had that car months before the reveal and it looks a lot like the one Holton Buggs had in his videos.
For all that money the supposedly earned they sure aren’t being straight in business deals as I know people that got ripped off from them outside of MLM.
Chad loves to name drop and talk about all the big things he does but he’s cheap as hell. So shady, I know a lot more but don’t want to let onto who I am.
I can’t believe people live their lives like this.
@joe! Good that you expose the CROOK CHAD!
He has the WORST scamming style ever in MLM history
CHAD IS A JERK. He is FAKE, as the Puranaputra. Nattida is EVEN WORST. A beauty with NO BRAIN. A Beauty with A CLOWN SMILE.
Now they are just using BUSINESSFORHOME to enticement people with their earning claim!
WORLD GN is a joke. Never seen a company with no solid product at all!
Who are some of the leaders who left?
Islam brothers left for Omnia, I don’t know what they do now.
Do you have your popcorn ready? The Singapore event is coming soon! I want to hear everyone’s predictions.
Here are mine:
Big reveals –
In Singapore they will announce the glamorous location of the next convention. There will be a promo to allow the poor reps to get a great deal on those tickets.
They will announce that the sugar trend is in another different more exciting version of testing and will be released in October or November.
They will release a new version of the worthless elwctrosmog sticker
There will be more shitty apps that will be hyped but don’t make sense.
How many of the reps will quit when the sugar trend is stalled again?
Maybe another Helo model with no meaningful upgrades.
Need not much sharing and prediction. We all know the same all hype! I agree with your prediction! Wink!
In fact, allow me to put my TRUTH on this plate after all the conventions our teams have attended and the President Calls we had.
Today it’s July.
They are “supposed” to launch the Glucose stuff last October, but no words were mentioned by Corporate. And the top leaders scammers have NO CHOICE, but to keep saying “IF ONLY YOU KNEW WHAT WE KNOW!”.
Stupid immature marketing words by the scumbag Nattida! LOL!
She and her funny hubby has “promised” us many stupid promises since day one, and NONE came to pass! And yes! We are all Presidents & diamonds and above mind you! Wink again!
I guess this weekend Singapore event, I’m sure Majority of the leaders are NOT even attending, all know the same old trick by Fabio!
Poor all new flocks Who continue to buy into their “vision”. I should say “illusion!” LOL!
Maybe they will say a FDA APPROVED glucose EXTENSE on the way, but still waiting for the pending patent (since last October?) APPLE company must be laughing off the chair!
LETS HAVE POPCORN & see!
WHERE’S THE REMAINING WORLD CHANGERS?!!!
All went silent AFTER the failure to deliver HELO EXTENSE & a new turn around to partner with another ITALIAN SCAMMER XFINITY Lab for stupid DNA!
We all know this is a JOKE outside the medical line! and poor sheeps all fallen short to the lies of FABIO, DE ROSA & CHANIDA!
Money in first! Before next phase of 3.0!
They have bought more time. The people who are buying Extense now will get it in late September.
Will they come out at all? This is heating up!
Also does anyone think it’s weird that at first they said the Extense had to be used with a Helo to do the readings (and people weren’t happy about that) sobnow they are saying you don’t have to, that it can be used by itself.
Also it used to just be able to say the blood sugar is “a little high” (also not popular) and now they are saying it gives an exact number.
How can these major components of the device be changed after its supposedly already developed?!
PS: of all the companies on earth that I wouldnt Want to have a DNA sample of mine, it’s WGN.
So António De Rosa QUIT wgn?!! Anyone see the buzz?!
S’long and thanks for all your money!
The distributors current plan is to blame WGN for all the issues and accept none of the blame for swindling their own friends then quickly jump to the next pop-and-drop company.
WGN will abandon the current products and rebrand. Such an epic shit storm.
Goodbye Wor(l)d Global Network and hello new victims with Helo Corp…
What’s this, the third company name-change now?
The WorldGN website has lost every trace of HELO products and instead now markets some sort of Genetic health test + monthly membership – package, all branded as VYVO:
Perhaps an update review?
When we reviewed Vyvo last month they were going to market a “Vyvo biosense band”, has this been abandoned?
Oh my bad, I missed that review.
The current packages sold include a discount for the band (shall there ever be one). You could see the packages from the store if it hadn’t been put down for maintenance just few hours ago:
The packages (at least before maintenance) had practically zero information on what this band is you are paying beforehand for.
Chad and Nattida’s newest scam, ByDzyne.
ByDzyne is on my radar.