Vida Divina Review: TLC master distributor launches clone opp
Vida Divina are based out of California in the US and appear to operate in the weight loss MLM niche.
The CEO and Founder of Vida Divina is Armand Puyolt.
Puyolt was previously the master-distributor of Total Life Changes. A fluff-piece published by Ted Nuyten’s BusinessForHome claims Puyolt earnt $2 million in 2012 and $3 million in 2014.
Puyolt’s marketing shtick for Total Life Changes was that the company’s products cured his cancer.
In a Total Life Changes marketing call from 2015, Puyolt recalls the launch of the company.
[2:01] We were about to launch, I collapsed and I went into the hospital.
When I went into the hospital, the doctors literally given me six more months of life left because they figured out I had cancer.
I had a cancer right next to my heart and it was like right between my heart and my lungs.
I had another cancer in my stomach and the beginnings of minor tumors in other places around my body.
[3:30] Six months later, utilizing the products that my wife had found that we’d put together for Total Life Changes … everything started fading. As in the problems that I had medically.
[8:39] Five years later, I was supposed to die five years ago, not only am I still alive but the last test I had I had a full body scan (and) I have no signs of cancer.
[9:03] And I can tell you 100% I didn’t use no medication. I didn’t use no pharmaceuticals. I used Iaso tea and I used the Iaso gano. I used the Iaso chaga.
Iaso is Total Life Changes’ flagship brand of products.
Puyolt’s MLM career began back in 1996 as an affiliate with ACN. In 2000 Puyolt left ACN to join Metabolife International.
In 2005 Metabolife was found guilty of filing fraudulent tax returns and was fined $600,000.
Metabolife owner William Bradley also pleaded guilty to evading millions of dollars in taxes and was sentenced to 6 months in federal prison and 2 years of probation.
In response to falling sales, and facing more than $1 billion in personal injury legal claims related to Metabolife 356, Metabolife filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2005.
The company’s furnishings and property, including a large collection of artwork, were liquidated in late 2006 to compensate creditors and settle outstanding personal-injury claims. (Wikipedia)
In his LinkedIn profile, Puyolt claims to have left Metabolife International in 2004, a year before the company’s regulatory problems began.
In addition to launching an MLM coaching business in 2005, 2007 saw Puyolt join Kyani. In 2009 Puyolt left Kyani to join Total Life Changes as Master Distributor.
Puyolt claims he provided half the investment capital to launch Total Life Changes.
Puyolt left Total Life Changes in May, 2016. The launch of Vida Divina was announced shortly thereafter.
Read on for a full review of the Vida Divina MLM opportunity.
The Vida Divina Product Line
There is currently no details of products provided on the Vida Divina website.
We have many great products that are on the way. Check back soon for more details.
Vida Divina marketing presentations by affiliates confirm that the flagship product in Vida Divina will be a weight-loss tea, similar to Total Life Changes’ Iaso brand of tea.
The Vida Divina Compensation Plan
The Vida Divina compensation plan pays affiliates when they make retail sales and recruit new Vida Divina affiliates.
Residual commissions are paid out via a binary compensation structure, with matching commissions paid through a seven-level deep unilevel team.
Vida Divina Affiliate Ranks
There are fifteen affiliate ranks within the Vida Divina compensation plan.
Along with their respective qualification criteria, they are as follows:
- NoRank – generate and maintain 120 PV a month
- NoRank2 – maintain 120 PV a month and have a downline generated 300 GV a month
- NoRank3 – maintain 120 PV a month and have a downline generated 600 GV a month
- Apprentice – maintain 120 PV a month and have a downline generated 1200 GV a month
- Bronze – maintain 120 PV a month and have a downline generated 2500 GV a month
- Silver – maintain 120 PV a month and have a downline generated 5000 GV a month
- Gold – maintain 120 PV a month and have a downline generated 10,000 GV a month
- Platinum – maintain 120 PV a month and have a downline generated 20,000 GV a month
- Sapphire – maintain 120 PV a month and have a downline generated 40,000 GV a month
- Ruby – maintain 120 PV a month and have a downline generated 60,000 GV a month
- Emerald – maintain 120 PV a month and have a downline generated 80,000 GV a month
- Diamond – maintain 120 PV a month and have a downline generated 100,000 GV a month
- Blue Diamond – maintain 120 PV a month and have a downline generated 250,000 GV a month
- Black Diamond – maintain 120 PV a month and have a downline generated 500,000 GV a month
- Crown Diamond – maintain 120 PV a month and have a downline generated 1,000,000 GV a month
PV stands for “Personal Volume” and is made up of generated retail sales volume and an affiliate’s own product orders.
GV stands for “Group Volume” and is PV generated by an affiliate’s downline.
Note that monthly affiliate rank PV requirements must be maintained in order to qualify for commissions.
Vida Divina pay their affiliates when sales are made to retail customers.
Retail commissions in the Vida Divina compensation plan are defined as the difference between wholesale and retail pricing of ordered products.
When Vida Divina affiliates sign up with a “Starter Pack”, the affiliate who recruited them is paid a percentage of generated commissionable volume.
How much commissionable volume is generated is determined by how much a newly recruited Vida Divina spends when they sign up.
Various affiliate marketing presentations claim Vida Divina Starter Pack will cost between $150 and $1200.
How much of a percentage on the generated commissionable volume is paid out is determined by the recruiting affiliate’s rank:
- Gold or lower – 50%
- Platinum – 55%
- Sapphire – 60%
- Ruby – 62%
- Emerald – 64%
- Diamond to Black Diamond – 68%
- Crown Diamond – 70%
Commissionable volume is represented as 100% of funds paid for a Vida Divina Starter Pack.
Note that the above commission percentages appear to be coded at a max of 70% per affiliate recruited.
If the recruiting affiliate is at a rank lower than Crowd Diamond, the difference between their rank percentage and higher ranks is paid to their upline (until the total 70% max has been paid out).
Residual commissions in Vida Divina are paid out via a binary compensation structure.
A binary compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a binary team, split into two sides (left and right):
Positions in the binary team are filled via direct and indirect recruitment of new Vida Divina affiliates.
Subsequent levels of the binary team are generated as required, with each new level housing double the positions of the previous level.
The second level of the binary team is generated by splitting the two first level positions into another two positions each (4 positions).
The third level of the binary team has eight positions and so on and so forth.
Sales volume is generated on both sides of the binary via retail sales, new affiliate recruitment and existing Vida Divina affiliates purchasing products.
At the end of each month Vida Divina tally up sales volume on both sides of the binary team. Affiliates are then paid a percentage of sales volume generated by their weaker binary side.
How much of a percentage a Vida Divina affiliate is paid is determined by their rank:
- NoRank – 5%
- NoRank2 – 6%
- NoRank3 – 8%
- Apprentice – 10%
- Bronze – 11%
- Silver – 12%
- Gold – 13%
- Platinum – 14%
- Sapphire – 15%
- Ruby – 16%
- Emerald – 17%
- Diamond – 18%
- Blue Diamond – 19%
- Black and Crown Diamond – 20%
If a Vida Divina affiliate generates their required rank monthly PV within a specified number of days each month, the following bonus percentages on binary volume are paid out:
- generate required monthly PV within the first 21 days of the month = 1% bonus
- generate required monthly PV within the first 14 days of the month = 3% bonus
- generate required monthly PV within the first 7 days of the month = 5% bonus
Note that Vida Divina affiliate binary earnings are capped at $80,000 a month.
Additional Binary Positions
Vida Divina affiliates at the Diamond, Blue Diamond, Black Diamond and Crown Diamond rank earn an additional binary position per rank qualified for.
This binary position is placed on top of their existing binary position(s), effectively allowing an affiliate to double-up on commissions paid on binary sales volume.
Note that each additional binary position generated is also subject to the $80,000 cap on binary earnings.
Matching Binary Bonus
Vida Divina affiliates earn a 50% check match on binary commissions paid to personally recruited affiliates.
The Matching Binary Bonus also has a residual component, paid out via a unilevel compensation structure.
A unilevel compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a unilevel team, with every personally recruited affiliate placed directly under them (level 1):
If any level 1 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 2 of the original affiliate’s unilevel team.
If any level 1 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 2 and so on and so forth down a theoretical infinite number of levels.
Vida Divina cap payable unilevel levels at seven, with commissions paid a percentage of binary commissions earned by affiliates in their unilevel team.
- Silver – 50% on level 1 (personally recruited affiliates), 3% on level 2, 2% on level 3, 1% on level 4, 0.5% on level 5 and 0.25% on levels 6 and 7
- Gold – 50% on level 1, 4% on level 2, 3% on level 3 ,2% on level 4, 1% on level 5, 0.5% on level 6 and 0.25% on level 7
- Platinum – 50% on level 1, 5% on level 2, 4% on level 3, 3% on level 4, 2% on level 5, 1% on level 6 and 0.5% on level 7
- Sapphire 50% on level 1, 10% on level 2, 5% on level 3, 4% on level 4, 3% on level 5, 2% on level 6 and 1% on level 7
- Ruby – 50% on level 1, 10% on levels 2 and 3, 5% on level 4, 4% on level 5, 3% on level 6 and 2% on level 7
- Emerald – 50% on level 1, 10% on levels 2 to 4, 5% on level 5, 4% on level 6 and 3% on level 7
- Diamond – 50% on level 1, 10% on levels 2 to 5, 5% on level 6 and 4% on level 7
- Blue and Black Diamond – 50% on level 1, 10% on level 2 to 5 and 5% on levels 6 and 6
- Crown Diamond – 50% on level 1 and 10% on levels 2 to 7
Vida Divina affiliates at the Ruby or higher rank qualify for a monthly Mortgage Bonus:
- Ruby – $500
- Emerald – $1000
- Diamond – $1500
- Blue Diamond – $2000
- Black Diamond – $2500
- Crown Diamond – $3000
Only Vida Divina affiliates with a property mortgage in their name can qualify for the Mortgage Bonus.
Affiliates who don’t have a mortgage still earn the bonus, however it is not paid out unless the affiliate obtains a mortgage.
Sapphire or higher ranked Vida Divina affiliates can qualify for two trips annually.
Sapphire or higher rank qualification must be maintained for four out of the first six months of the year to qualify for the first trip.
Sapphire or higher rank qualification must then again be maintained for four out of the second six months of the year to qualify for the second trip.
Vida Divina marketing material suggests the company pays for flights and accommodation.
Joining Vida Divina
Vida Divina affiliate membership is tied to the purchase of a Starter Pack.
Unfortunately Vida Divina do not provide Starter Pack costs on their website.
Various affiliate marketing presentations claim the cost of Vida Divina Starter Packs will be between $150 and $1200.
Last year Armand Puyolt claimed he was “in love with what we’re doing” at Total Life Changes.
A year later he’s left the company and gone on to launch a clone of the company.
The primary problem with Total Life Changes is that retail within the company was always an afterthought to affiliate recruitment.
Total Life Changes automatically converted anyone who spent $40 on products into an affiliate, with direct recruitment commissions also available.
The weakness of a recruitment-dependent MLM opportunity is of course a decline in new affiliate recruitment.
Although not conclusive, Alexa traffic estimates reveal a steady decline in visits to the Total Life Changes website over the past year:
Realistically Total Life Changes will probably go under within the next 12-18 months. A bunch of former affiliates jumping ship with Puyolt to join Vida Divina certainly won’t help.
Case in point Kesha Murray, the uploader of the YouTube video Puyolt claims TLC products cured his cancer.
About a month ago Murray stopped promoting TLC and began uploading Vida Divina marketing videos to her channel.
With Puyolt the former Master Distributor of Total Life Changes, this probably reflective of a large percentage of the TLC affiliate-base.
On the subject of Puyolt’s Iaso tea cancer curing claims, the video description for Murray’s April 14, 2015 video reads as follows:
POWERFUL TESTIMONY from TLC’s President and Master Distributor, Armand Puyolt – A MUST LISTEN!!!
As a survivor… My only Mission is to help who wants to LIVE. No matter where you are in the world. I Can Help You! I know your pain.
People give up with life at the first sight of cancer. And that is wrong.
Cancer CAN BEAT YOU if you give up on LIFE FAITH & HOPE.
In 2010 I was given 6 months of life to live. Had Gastric Cancer and also a Malign Tumor between my heart and lungs.
Today 5 years later to the day I AM ALIVE!!! And what is best my latest body scan is clear of all traces of cancer.
Did it with no radiation. Or chemo. Just natural products.
President & Master Distributor Of Total life Changes
I’m sure it wont be long before we start seeing similar cancer cure claims for Vida Divina products, if they haven’t started already.
This will naturally be a problem for Puyolt and Vida Divina if the FDA decide to launch an investigation into the company and its products.
On the compensation side of things, Vida Divina’s model is different to Total Life Changes, however the overall focus on affiliate recruitment is maintained.
Retail commissions are available in Vida Divina, however once again they are pushed into the background by generous affiliate recruitment commissions.
Why waste your time earning $20 on a retail product order when you can earn hundreds of dollars upfront per Vida Divina affiliate you recruit?
As for monthly PV, this can and will likely be fulfilled via an affiliate self-purchasing 120 PV or more of product each month.
Because Vida Divina pay a bonus 5% if 120 PV is reached within the first seven days of the month.
Signing up for 120 PV autoship is one of, if not the fastest way to hit this qualification each month.
From there all a Vida Divina affiliate needs to do is recruit other affiliates who also purchase 120 PV a month in product, and watch the commissions roll in.
Retail is entirely ignored, with this compensation model favoring chain-recruitment over retail customer sales.
The Starter Pack commissions meanwhile are straight up pyramid scheme territory.
Don’t think any of this is a problem?
Go and look up the countless pitches by Vida Divina affiliates, most of whom are/were Total Life Changes affiliates, pitching the opportunity based on “missing out” on TLC.
They’re using fear of loss, knowing full-well those who sign up at the top of recruitment schemes make the most money.
Everybody below them loses out, as most of the affiliates who joined TLC over the past few declining years will tell you.
Between the cancer curing claims of the founder of the company, recruitment-orientated compensation plan and obvious attempt to relive the Total Life Changes prime recruitment glory days, Vida Divina is probably going to experience a much faster decline than its predecessor.
Once all the ex-Total Life Changes affiliates have signed up and the launch hype dies down, the problem of trying to pitch a near identical opportunity to an uninterested audience will still be there.
By that stage it’ll be too late to pitch people on “get in on the ground floor”, which will trigger the same decline in Vida Divina as Total Life Changes is going through now.
As is usually the case when top leaders suddenly hop on over from one mlm company to a rival or competing mlm company, there may have been some internal beef brewing for some time.
And usually, lawsuits over cross-recrutitng and proprietary fomulas start flying.
Could the top TLC leaders exodus have been triggered from back when TLC was having product fulfillment issues?
The cancer claim… well, let’s just say it’s “fishy”.
Heck, ex-prez candidate Ben Carson used to say he had cancer and had months to live too, and he had been on Herbalife woo ever since, even though he had surgery later.
Just about to launch in UK. A hot of hoppers from other uk networks joining in the hope of earning a quick buck from a ground floor opportunity.
Already making statements about benefits of products which will get them into deep water. I guess they will have a problem sourcing supplies as the ship from USA. One to avoid.
I would like to find out more on others think of Total Life Changes and Vida Divina.
Before the Vida Divina even hit the market they were already making claims to help cure you with this and that and this made me very skeptical because they have not even started selling any products. Plus it is too early to make any claims as to what the products can do.
I was with Total Life Change before I even moved over to Vina Divina. At that time I was very about the product I was suppose to be selling and I did not want to sell anything unless I myself could give a truthful testimony.
Here we go with the BS claims… not cancer curing claims, but the amount of customer claims!
Here is an excerpt from an oblivious affiliate on the MMG forum:
What a joke!
I am one of those who “jumped ship” and it was not due to a fast buck as many seem to assume. Let me elaborate…
The culture of the other company was solely based on making sure the top leaders maintained their ranks.
Unethical things were occurring that I personally did not agree with. Additionally, the quality of the Products changed after we had a shortage in product (commonly referred to as the “Tea Shortage”).
After the shortage, my customers went from happy to complaining:( I could continue but I’ll just stop here with my reasons.
Now, The Vida Divina 100,000 customers claim is 100% true. We are all considered “Preferred Customers” until we become Active Affiliates.
To date we now have close to 200,000 “Customers” WORLDWIDE. Moreover, you left off another payout that we receive which is our cash one-time rank Advancment Bonus AND the extra binary bonus we receive when we purchase our starter package.
To clarify, its FREE to get started but you must purchase an order or package that ranges from 120-1200 to become active and begin to earn commissions.
Our incredible Fast Start “Roll-up” payout feature speaks volumes!! It says that Vida Divina is not about keeping your hard earned money like many other company’s do if you don’t earn it. It rolls up to the next qualified PERSON!!!
We at Vida Divina are very happy here and it’s unfortunate that so many people focus on the negative & untruths.
Our products are top quality and affordable. I was one of those fortunate to try TeDivina and lost 8lbs in 5 days!!! My colleague lost 11lbs in 5 days and it was a very gentle cleanse. This company is 100% unequivocally NOT a scam.
It’s a really great opportunity for MANY reasons and is so much different than the other companies out here. If anyone wants more information, you are welcome to contact me and
I would love to address any of your questions and/or concerns including your product questions. I can also explain why we are very comfortable promoting products before they have been released.
So basically you’re being disingenuous with the word “customer”, which in MLM refers to retail customers.
That’s the opposite of 100% true.
Herbalife tried to pull that crap, look where it got them.
This “Kimberly” is the same pimp from MMG forum spouting about the pathetic and ridiculous customer claims. Most people know these numbers are bogus!
Hi, I have translated this message whit google translation. Sorry if there is some typos and if in the translation process something not make any sense.
I am from Honduras and I’am just trying to put my view of this Vida Divina company. 🙂
I’ve been in the industry of MLM for 3 years now and before I joined this industry I did a lot of research on the matter, not only because it was weird for me in the beginning but also because I wanted to do something 100% legal.
Vida divina is not doing things 100% legal.
This is what regulators are looking for when they investigate this type of scams.
1. Product has to have value.
A. The fact that they are rewarding people with 50% of the starter packages say a lot of the product value and not only that, they have to pay another 10 ways with the other 50%, to me is BS
B. Just because someone creates a private label it doesn’t mean that they can put the price they want and create an MLM company with it.
The price of the product has to be competitive it has to be something the people really want or need.
If not, then people are joining only for money and that’s what regulators hate my friends.
Me and some friends did a test on how much it will cost to create a private label with the coffee industry since there are like 10 companies that are promoting the Coffee with Gano.
We call a coffee distributor in California we ask for wholesale prices and they told us that 1 pound of Mexican organic coffee will cost us $7 wholesale.
Then we call another distributor also in the U.S that sell organic Gano powder and it was $20 they also told us that if we buy $50.000 they will lower the price to $15 a pound.
So we got the 1 pound of coffee and we got 1 pound of the mushroom.
We created a fake logo and a fake label ourselves, hired a packaging company in Los Angeles CA we explained that we were doing a test so they agreed on doing the packaging for $75 just that one time.
So bottom line is that we spend $7+20+75.
We used 1 pound of coffee and 32 ounces of the Gano powder, we were able to make 9 boxes with 30 small packages for one month consumption each.
If we have had created an affiliate program and sell them for $15 to distributors and for them to sell retail price of $30 each.
If you can see it only cost us $27 to generate $135 the packaging & printed boxes were more expensive that the product.
Also keep in mind that the larger quantity you buy of products is less expensive and the more you do on the packaging is also cheaper.
The packaging company told us that if we do a contract with them they charge 5 cents per each small package so it will be $1.50 per 30 which will make one box but they charge us $75 because it was not a large quantity and we had no contract with them also the printed boxes were going to be 30 cents if we do large quantities.
So this how this companies operate.
2. If the compensation plan is leading people to recruit it is also illegal. Let me explain.
This has to do with the distributors that are pushing people to get the biggest package to make that start bonus commission. Also by telling people.
A. If you buy the biggest package and you will earn more.
If the compensation plan is designed to do this is totally illegal.
Because, people will get the biggest package in order to earn more money and living the product to a secondary level of the business when in fact the product should be the first priority of the business.
A lot of people come to me everyday and show me many opportunities but all they talk is about money and how am I going to get rich and they don’t even mention the product until I ask them.
One time some lady came to me promoting Vemma and she literally said that the product wasn’t important that only the money was important.
I still remember telling her that it was not right how she was promoting it and then Vemma got shut down by the FTC, a year later.
Just look all the videos about Vida Divina all they talk is about is money, how are you going to get rich, that there is no other compensation plan that is powerful enough in the industry, like Vida Divina and rarely talk about the product or the benefits of selling it.
As I always say, “If all you hear is money in a company it is money that they move and not product”.
You see, not only because they are in business it means that is a legal business, it is only matter of time to get shut down, I called those companies time bombs.
Some companies put or use products just to call it a direct sales company but all they promote is money.
And the reason why I don’t promote them is because you put the time to built a network that is going to blow away sooner or later. And is your reputation that is in the line here.
People that creates this Kind of business, if they get shut down they will come back again with another company later.
Why? because they have a taste for the money and not for a legal way to do business.
Vida Divina is trying to land in Europe, no permit, no license, unregistered products, compensation?
It is moving completely outlawed!
Products are illegal in the UK – confirmed by compliance at Vida Divina HO – they never gave authorisation for reps to be selling it in the UK.
1.) Vida Divina announced their new skincare line in September 2017 with 15 products that are already fully licensed in the UK.
2.) FDA approved Vida Divina’s Coffee Line in October 2017
3.) Vida Divina’s compliance department does not tolerate medical claims of any kind. (Vida Divina is not TLC)
4.) Vida Divina just awarded top retailers with the highest honor going to a man from California who retailed $435K in one year…
True retail or is that mostly recruited affiliate orders?
Remember, Vida Divina consider all recruited affiliates as preferred customers until they qualify as active. This is BS retail.
Is Vida Divina also still paying out recruitment commissions on Starter Packs?
This is true retail… He has a retail store and also receives $20 for every $60 product sold from online store…
Yes – Starter Packs still yield 50% to 70% to the enroller…
So nothing a regular MLM affiliate could compete against.
While it’s great to see genuine retail sales taking place within Vida Divina, having your affiliates compete against retail stores probably isn’t the best for distributor morale.
Everybody buys em for $40 and Sells em for $60… Including folks who hang a shingle…
FDA does not approve supplements. I think you are confused.
The only thing FDA had to do with Vida Divina is it’s “registered” as producer of something that people consume, so in case of a terrorism attack like tampering tracking can be done.
Yet Vida Divina people have tried to spin this as “certified” “approved”, etc.
When FDA really comes down on all of the misrepresentations, you all will be bemoaning why nobody told you so. I just did.
FWIW, that certificate of registration from FDA only costs $195 to get.
Kasey, Vida Divina manufactures it’s coffee in South America where it’s grown. FDA had to approve entry into the US and did so…
And does your information conflict with mine? Nope. So it’s not a rebuttal.
FDA “registration (as a food producing facility)” is NOT “FDA approved” or “FDA certified”, as you (and your fellow reps) have been touting all over the net or endorsement of any product line.
You probably just had a slip of finger and mistyped, but you should warn your fellow reps to be more accurate. When FDA comes down on the company for not stopping the misrepresentation, you all will suffer.
Correct… Not a rebuttal.
Merely incorrect terminology… AGAIN.
Your company is an FDA registered importer of nutritional supplements.
Trying to imply / infer “FDA approval” when FDA does **NOT** approve nutritional supplements suggests you’re being deliberately dense.
Vida Divina always say to ppl that they own a Factory, then they say that have a factory in USA that everybody can visit.
I didnt see a single pic or video from any rep in that place, should be someone of the diamond rank that must be go there by now. That is “fishy” .
I recall being on a call with corporate warning us to not make any claims about our products and what they can do.
I don’t know where you people are getting this information from. Sounds like a bunch of haters!
Let folks make their money and do what they do. The FDA has approved meds that almost killed me! I don’t care what anybody says. I feel great and I look even better.
I tell people they need to change their lifestyle and eating habits to help the products help them. Why come up against a company that is trying to help people.
Everybody is trying to live their life! Don’t come up against the FDA though. Scared to do that!
Yes they do have a factory in the USA. It’s really sad there are so many haters out here!!! Go live you life.
Despite your anecdotes, the fact remains that you can’t run around making cancer curing claims without FDA approval.
If you want to rage against the government and “haters”, do it elsewhere. Facts are facts.
Kimberly is correct! It’s even better today in the present!
Vida Divina products are not watered down and the Tea and other products that I use are EXCELLENT!!!
I have been with other company’s and have not made a dime. I’m making money and I feel great offering these products to all of my customers. My business partners are very happy as well.
There are some haters on this thread. It is what it is!
Armond is an awesome example of a business man. He knows this industry and he knows how to make money and help others do the same.
He just left our group in Greenbelt, MD. He did not have to come but he did and we were thankful and learned a lot!
I thank God for this opportunity coming across my path! Stop hating and let people do honest business. I am!
We’re not claiming that these products will heal you. I know that we have the tools to help our body do what it was created to do, heal itself.
You also need to update your information on this thread/site. I love the truth. So make sure you informing people with truth.
Our comp plan is over the top!!! No other company can touch it! You need to look again. (Ozedit: recruitment spam removed)
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I love that I can help other feel and look better. I did not say heal. I said feel better from the inside out.
I’m a product of the product! I loss 40 pounds in 3 months and I do not look sick nor do I look like I’m on drugs!
I have so much energy and the sight in my left eye has been restored as a result of me using the tools provided so that my body can do what it was meant to do.
Heal itself not to manage, cover and cause more illnesses. I’m just saying…
The question is what is your monthly retail volume versus your own spend. Assuming you’re generating 120 PV a month of course.
And please. Anyone who refers to criticism as “haters” has the intellectual capacity of a peanut.
One would hope this is not a side-effect of consumption of Vida Divina’s products.
He (Armond Puyolt) Got this and God’s got him and us! Don’t worry about it if you’re not losing anything. I’m gaining a lot for sure!
From this response one can surmise the 40 pounds of weight loss you mentioned was of the grey mushy kind upstairs. Have a nice day.
I want to thank you all for helping me come to a decision about this company.
I have been investigating it, trying to learn everything I could before I join in. I’m sooo glad I read these oppinions because (Ozedit: copious amounts of abuse removed)
I have talked to a distribuitor by the name Sandra Vargas and not once has she tried to make me buy a large starter pack…quite the contrary, she advised me to start small and build it up and not once have she made a “cancer cure” claim.
As far as FDA is concern…(Ozedit: What you think about the “ebil gubmint” doesn’t change the law with respect to the FDA and regulation of the MLM industry)
I thank you vehemently for all you concern, time and money spent trying to destroy a dream of many people…a dream to make it big in the business world and thank you!
for trying to make people believe that this is no longer the land of opportunity… Thank God I am smart enough to be able to make wise decisions and with your help I’ve just decided to join!!
Heck! 50% commission on 120 pv??? That’s unheard of! And then the commision for group volume? Ah! And then if I order before the 7th of each month I get an additional 5% commission?…I’m leaving Mary Kay…too much freaking stress!!! The higher level I reach…the higher personal order gets!!
Ohhh! One more thing…if people are looking at a company as a business…they want to know how much money can they make…so what the heck is wrong with them telling people how much money is it??? I WANT TO KNOW! of course I want to know if it works but I also want them to (in Cuba Downing Jr words)…SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!
AH…ONE LAST THING…if I join a business for under $150. and manage to make money and a year later they disappear..its all good because it made me money for awhile.
I heard of people working for companies that one day they showed up to work and the company went out of business and just like that…were out of a job…so, nothing in life is permanent!
If you don’t like a company and that have kept you from joining, then stopped giving empty and stupid opinions…to me I would only listen to you if you tell me that you joined and tried it for awhile and found out that they lied to you other than than you are like a blind man trying to guide another blind person…and Im smarter than that.
Thank you everybody!!!
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Gotta love precious snowflakes who think everthing on the internet was tailor written for them.
From your tone you’ve already made your decision and likely already signed up. Spare us the reverse psychology bullshit. Kthx.
That’s nice. Your personal anecdotal story however does not change the fact that Armand Puyolt used cancer to market TLC products.
Too stupid to see a product-based pyramid scheme for what it is or complacent. From the sounds of it retail isn’t even on your radar.
Yeah fuck your victims, right? So long as you got paid. What a shameless garbage human being you are.
Nothing, within reason. You’ll find however that if MLM affiliates were brutally honest about how much the average person actually makes in their company… well, let’s just say you wouldn’t be asking rhetorical questions about it then.
The fuck are you talking about. Please don’t invest narratives justify your preconceptions. You know nothing about anyone who has commented before you.
Instead of actually addressing points raised in the review, you’re just throwing out strawman after strawman.
That is absolutely terrible advice and about as big of a failure when it comes to due-diligence as you can get. You don’t need to join a scam to identify one, any more so than you need to join a legitimate MLM opportunity to identify one.
Coming on here self-righteously spouting off about god, hurling abuse left right and center. Jesus Christ, best of luck with the scamming.
So funny how people hide behind words when its there fault they are not loosing weight. So easy to attack when your the one miserable and nothing better to do then tear into a person that almost died and shared his story.
No medical claims made nor guarantees it worked for him and may or may not work for him.
I used Herbalife It works and it did not work for me but I do not talk bad about them because for some people it works for them.
So before you say this was all made up are you or was you his doctor?
Except for the very specific medical claims Armand Puyolt made regarding cancer. Which for some reason you’re pretending don’t exist.
There’s a doctor out there sitting quietly on a legitimate cure for cancer? Rightio.
There’s nothing funny about any of this. Stop making excuses for bullshit medical claims that have no supporting evidence.