Vasayo Review: Solid retail offering from the founder of Monavie
Vasayo are based out of Utah and headed up by Dallin and Karree Larsen.
Dallin Larsen first popped up on most people’s radar as Usana’s President of Sales in the 1990s. Larsen held several executive positions in Usana before his appointment as President.
In 2001 Larsen was appointed Vice President of Sales at Dynamic Essentials. Dynamic Essentials ran into regulatory problems with the FDA in 2003, with Larsen leaving the company that same year.
In 2005 Larsen (right, with Karree) founded and launched Monavie, which today is what he’s best known for in the MLM industry.
Monavie marketed a blended acai berry juice and initially was pretty successful within the MLM sphere.
By 2014 things at Monavie weren’t looking good, prompting Larsen to leave the company.
Rather than shy away from his past, as is often the case, in a Vasayo marketing video Larsen is refreshingly candid about his departure from Monavie.
[0:33] Two years ago, after it became apparent that we had lost control of the outcome of Monavie for several reasons, including a significant philosophical disagreement with our private equity investors, as to the company’s culture and who should lead the company, we decided to step away in July of 2014 and agreed to stay out of the industry for two years.
We have honored that agreement.
[1:30] When we resigned from Monavie we shared a video message stating that we didn’t know for sure what our future was going to look like.
Now, two years later, we have clarity.
That clarity brought about the launch of Vasayo.
As for Monavie, it plunged into $182 million dollars in debt and was sold off to Jeunesse. Jeunesse promptly set about dismantling what was left of Monavie and integrating it into their own business.
Larsen appears determined not to make the same mistakes he felt he made with Monavie again;
[3:35] We have every intention of leading this company until our last breath. This will be the final journey of our lifetimes.
In addition, we have no intention of every selling this company. We’re not starting with an exit-strategy in mind but instead, to build and leave a legacy.
And unlike Monavie we will maintain more than fifty percent ownership in the company, so that we can steer the ship and culture in a direction we believe to be in the best interests of our distributors.
Read on for a full review of the Vasayo MLM opportunity.
The Vasayo Product Line
Vasayao’s nutritional products are marketed under a flagship “MicroLife Nutritionals” brand.
- Core Essentials – vitamins and mineral supplement via a vegetable-based capsule
- Neuro – “a meal for your brain”
- Energy – a herb-based energy spray
- Renew – a liquid-gel based “antioxidant support system”
- Sleep – a mist-based sleep support supplement
Retail pricing for Vasayo’s products were not available at the time of publication.
The Vasayo Compensation Plan
The Vasayo compensation plan pays affiliates to sell products to retail customers.
Affiliates are also given a thirty-day window to earn off product orders made by new personally recruited affiliates.
Vasayo Affiliate Ranks
There are eighteen affiliate ranks within the Vasayo compensation plan.
Along with their respective qualification criteria, they are as follows:
- Brand Partner – sign up as a Vasayo affiliate
- Qualified Brand Partner – generate 80 PV a month, maintain one active customer and two active affiliates (one on either side of the binary team)
- Executive Brand Parner – same as Qualified Brand Partner in addition to generating 800 GV in lesser binary volume a week
- Bronze – generate 80 PV a month, maintain at least two active customers and two active affiliates (one on either side of the binary team) and generate 2000 GV in lesser binary volume a week and 300 GV in unilevel team volume a month
- Silver – generate 80 PV a month, maintain at least two active customers and two active affiliates (one on either side of the binary team) and generate 3000 GV in lesser binary volume a week and 800 GV in unilevel team volume a month
- Gold – generate 80 PV a month, maintain at least two active customers and two active affiliates (one on either side of the binary team) and generate 6000 GV in lesser binary volume a week and 2500 GV in unilevel team volume a month
- Platinum – generate 80 PV a month, maintain at least two active customers and two active affiliates (one on either side of the binary team, one of which must be an Executive Brand Partner) and generate 8000 GV in lesser binary volume a week and 5000 GV in unilevel team volume a month
- Pearl – generate 160 PV a month, maintain at least four active customers and four active affiliates (two on either side of the binary team, two of which must be Executive Brand Partners) and generate 10,000 GV in lesser binary volume a week for two consecutive weeks and 8000 GV in unilevel team volume a month (max 4000 GV from any one unilevel leg)
- Blue Sapphire – generate 160 PV a month, maintain at least four active customers and four active affiliates (two on either side of the binary team, three of which must be Executive Brand Partners) and generate 12,000 GV in lesser binary volume a week for two consecutive weeks and 12,000 GV in unilevel team volume a month (max 6000 GV from any one unilevel leg)
- Ruby – generate 160 PV a month, maintain at least four active customers and four active affiliates (two on either side of the binary team, four of which must be Executive Brand Partners) and generate 15,000 GV in lesser binary volume a week for two consecutive weeks and 20,000 GV in unilevel team volume a month (max 10,000 GV from any one unilevel leg)
- Emerald – generate 160 PV a month, maintain at least four active customers and four active affiliates (two on either side of the binary team, five of which must be Executive Brand Partners) and generate 20,000 GV in lesser binary volume a week for three consecutive weeks and 30,000 GV in unilevel team volume a month (max 15,000 GV from any one unilevel leg)
- Diamond – generate 240 PV a month, maintain at least six active customers and six active affiliates (three on either side of the binary team, three of which must be Blue Sapphire or higher) and generate 30,000 GV in lesser binary volume a week for four consecutive weeks and 50,000 GV in unilevel team volume a month (max 20,000 GV from any one unilevel leg)
- Black Diamond – generate 240 PV a month, maintain at least six active customers and six active affiliates (three on either side of the binary team, three of which must be Emerald or higher) and generate 50,000 GV in lesser binary volume a week for four consecutive weeks and 150,000 GV in unilevel team volume a month (max 50,000 GV from any one unilevel leg)
- Royal Black Diamond – generate 240 PV a month, maintain at least six active customers and six active affiliates (three on either side of the binary team, three of which must be Diamond or higher) and generate 70,000 GV in lesser binary volume a week for four consecutive weeks and 250,000 GV in unilevel team volume a month (max 80,000 GV from any one unilevel leg)
- Imperial Black Diamond – generate 240 PV a month, maintain at least six active customers and six active affiliates (three on either side of the binary team, four of which must be Diamond or higher) and generate 90,000 GV in lesser binary volume a week for four consecutive weeks and 500,000 GV in unilevel team volume a month (max 125,000 GV from any one unilevel leg)
- Crown Blue Diamond – generate 320 PV a month, maintain at least six active customers and eight active affiliates (four on either side of the binary team, five of which must be Diamond or higher) and generate 110,000 GV in lesser binary volume a week for six consecutive weeks and 800,000 GV in unilevel team volume a month (max 150,000 GV from any one unilevel leg)
- Double Crown Blue Diamond – generate 320 PV a month, maintain at least six active customers and eight active affiliates (four on either side of the binary team, six of which must be Diamond or higher) and generate 130,000 GV in lesser binary volume a week for six consecutive weeks and 1,000,000 GV in unilevel team volume a month (max 175,000 GV from any one unilevel leg)
- Triple Crown Blue Diamond – generate 320 PV a month, maintain at least six active customers and eight active affiliates (four on either side of the binary team, six of which must be Diamond or higher) and generate 150,000 GV in lesser binary volume a week for six consecutive weeks and 1,500,000 GV in unilevel team volume a month (max 250,000 GV from any one unilevel leg)
PV is “Personal Volume” and is sales volume generated by a Vasayo affiliate’s own product orders and that of their retail customers.
GV stands for “Group Volume” and is PV generated by a Vasayo affiliate’s downline.
An active customer is a retail customer who has ordered at least 35 PV worth of products within 4 weeks.
An active affiliate is a Vasayo affiliate who generates at least 80 PV a month (4 weeks).
Lesser binary volume is GV generated by a Vasayo affiliate’s weaker binary side (see residual commission explanation below).
Retail Commissions
Vasayo affiliates earn a 20% retail commission on products ordered by their retail customers.
- a bonus $50 is paid if a Vasayo affiliate generates 500 PV in retail volume over a rolling four-week period
- a bonus $150 is paid out if a Vasayo affiliate generates 1000 VP in retail volume over a rolling four-week period
Recruitment Commissions
When a Vasayo affiliate recruits a new affiliate, they earn a Product Introduction Bonus on that affiliate’s product orders for 4 calendar weeks.
The Product Introduction Bonus is a percentage bonus on sales volume generated by the recruited affiliate’s orders.
How much of a percentage is paid out is determined by volume generated by the recruiting affiliate for that month:
- 80 PV a month = 10% Product Introduction Bonus
- 160 PV a month or more = 20% Product Introduction Bonus
Residual Commissions
Residual commissions in Vasayo are paid out via a binary compensation structure.
A binary compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a binary team, split into two sides (left and right):
The second level of the binary team is generated as required, by splitting each of the first two positions into another two positions each.
Subsequent levels of the binary team are generated in the same manner, with each new binary level housing twice as many positions as the previous level.
Positions in the binary team are filled via direct and indirect recruitment of new affiliates.
At the end of each week sales volume on both sides of the binary team is tallied up. Vasayo pay affiliates a $25 cycle commission per 240/480 GV matched on both sides of the binary team.
This volume can be matched on either side, capped at 1100 cycles ($27,500) a week:
- Starter Group to Executive Brand Partner – 100 cycles ($2500)
- Bronze – 200 cycles ($5000)
- Silver – 300 cycles ($7500)
- Gold – 400 cycles ($10,000)
- Platinum – 500 cycles ($12,500)
- Pearl – 600 cycles ($15,000)
- Blue Sapphire – 700 cycles ($17,500)
- Ruby – 800 cycles ($20,000)
- Emerald – 900 cycles ($22,500)
- Diamond to Imperial Black Diamond – 1000 cycles ($25000)
- Crown Blue Diamond and higher – 1100 cycles ($27500)
Note that to qualify for residual commissions a Vasayo affiliate must recruit and maintain at least two active affiliates (one on either side of the binary team).
Matching Bonus
Vasayo affiliates who generate at least 160 PV a month qualify for a matching bonus on residual commissions earned by their downline.
Vasayo pay the Matching Bonus based on unilevel generations.
A unilevel compensation structure places a Vasayo affiliate at the top of a unilevel tea, with every personally recruited affiliate placed directly under them (level 1):
If any level 1 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 2 of the original affiliate’s unievel team.
If any level 2 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 3 and so on and so forth down a theoretical infinite number of levels.
Generations are defined when a Bronze affiliate is found in each individual unilevel leg.
Once a Bronze ranked affiliate is found, the first generation is capped off and the second generation begins.
If no second Bronze ranked affiliate is found, the second generation extends down the entire length of the unilevel leg.
The Matching Bonus is paid out as a percentage of residual binary commissions paid to downline affiliates in these generations.
How many generations a Vasayo affiliate can earn on is determined by their rank as follows:
- Bronze – 20% on one generation
- Bronze (with five active retail customers and 400 monthly PV) – 25%
- Bronze (with eight or more active retail customers and 640 monthly PV) – 30%
- Silver – 10% across two generations
- Gold and Platinum – 5% across three generations
- Pearl and Blue Sapphire – 5% across four generations
- Ruby and Emerald – 5% across five generations
- Diamond to Imperial Black Diamond – 5% across six generations
- Crown Blue Diamond and higher – 5% across seven generations
Rank Achievement Bonus
Vasayo affiliates earn a Rank Achievement Bonus for qualifying at the following ranks:
- Black Diamond – $100,000
- Royal Black Diamond – $200,000
- Imperial Black Diamond – $400,000
- Crown Blue Diamond – $600,000
- Double Crown Blue Diamond – $800,000
- Triple Crown Blue Diamond – $1,000,000
All Rank Achievement Bonuses are paid over ten four-week installments.
The appropriate rank must be maintained along with 160 PV in qualifying monthly volume.
Leadership Bonus
Ruby ranked Vasayo affiliates who generate 160 PV a month qualify for shares in the Leadership Bonus pool.
The Leadership Bonus pool is made up of 2% of Vasayo’s company-wide sales volume.
The Vasayo compensation plan states that affiliates can
earn shares based on your paid-as rank and additional shares based on additional qualifications.
No specific information on the qualification criteria is provided.
Joining Vasayo
Regular Vasayo affiliate membership is priced at $239, $329, $499 and $889.
The more a Vasayo affiliate pays for membership the more products they receive.
There is also a Vasayo “Founders Package” for $1495. Apparently there’s a separate 1% bonus pool paid out to Founders Package affiliates (I’ve also seen 2% advertised).
Conclusion
From the Vasayo marketing video I quoted from in the introduction of this review;
[5:16] In today’s regulatory environment, the only companies that will survive and thrive, will be those companies that create a massive and loyal customer base.
Rather than those companies that simply focus on recruiting other distributors.
It is indeed a new day in direct selling and in my view this is good news, not bad news.
Broadly speaking Vasayo lives up to Dallin Larsen’s philosophy, meaning it’s not just lip-service to retail sales activity.
Before we get into the compensation plan, I want to address the $1495 Founders Package. If the package is indeed tied to one or more bonus pools, that’s clearly pay to play and should be discouraged.
If Vasayo affiliates want to pay $1495 to receive a deeper discount on products, that’s fine but from a regulatory standpoint there shouldn’t be any financial incentive for doing so.
Outside of that red flag, Vasayo’s compensation plan is extremely well-balanced between retail sales and building a downline.
The key to this are the active customer requirements, which require retail orders of 35 PV or more per active retail customer required.
Right from the start (Qualified Brand Partner), Vasayo affiliates are required to maintain active customers. This balances out the required PV requirements, with each active customer generating 35 PV towards the requirements.
At each Vasayo affiliate rank the required retail customer PV counts for well over majority of required monthly PV. That means an affiliate is going to be primarily qualifying for commissions via retail customer sales, which is ideally what you want in an MLM opportunity.
The retail qualifiers also ensure that a good percentage of downline volume will also be derived from retail customer orders.
The recruitment commissions on newly recruited affiliate orders are capped at thirty days and are of course subject to retail volume qualification.
Normally I’d raise an eyebrow but trying to focus solely on recruiting new affiliates and collecting on their orders isn’t really sustainable in Vasayo. You’ve got nothing to work towards residually unless you put in the time generating a decent retail customer-base.
As to Vasayo’s products, I felt this was the weakest component of the company. The MicroLife Nutritionals range doesn’t appear to be any different to what you might find in a health store or through rival MLM companies.
That’s not to say the products are a write-off, just that carving out a retail market might be more of a challenge than your average Vasayo affiliate is prepared for.
That and pricing has yet to be disclosed. Given the readily available competition, if Vasayo’s products are priced too high selling them might prove difficult.
Given the retail sales qualifiers in the compensation plan, costly products will discourage affiliates if they can’t make sales. The solution won’t be to remove the retail qualifiers but rather to increase the value of Vasayo’s products beyond the affiliate wholesale discount.
On that note, Vasayo’s steep affiliate package entry ($239) might set he bar a little too high for the mainstream (why isn’t there a non-product joining level?).
From the Vasayo marketing videos I watched, it’s clear that the company intends to introduce other products further down the line. These might eventually make the product line stand out but for now Vasayo’s offering is a bit uninspiring.
Nothing really struck me as targeting anything other than broad health and nutrition.
Say what you will about Monavie, from an MLM business model standpoint Vasayo has clearly been well thought out and executed.
I can’t fault the company for regulatory compliance (Founders package aside), but it remains to be seen if the rest of the opportunity lives up to expectations.
Update 15th February 2023 – Vasayo has announced it is shutting down.
CEO Daniel Picou has purportedly bought out the Larsens, and intends to prelaunch a reboot MLM opp on February 20th.
Nowadays, Google and Amazon are the popular go-to sources for price and quality comparisons of nutritional products.
After the Vemma fiasco, it’ll be interesting to see how these new nutritional mlm companies stay in compliance with 50% retail sales to non-distributors ruling.
Amazon & eBay are retailing millions of dollars each month for Jeunesse and Visalas at lower than distributor’s wholesale prices.
It’s the toxic game-changer involving MLM ‘hot’ products. Watch for Vasayo on Amazon real soon.
Gosh that whole snake oil thing seems to be the one thing holding these companies back.
Well, at least the energy products will probably have caffeine… i mean guarana. Caffeine free of course.
@Suzi
Selling direct through the company, or are you talking about affiliates who bought too much trying to make some money back?
No doubt independent distributors selling off their overstock of rank qualification purchases. And many customers who just don’t like the products and/or can’t get refunds.
Must suck to be a distributor then.
Is it against the terms to still on these outlets? I thought for real mlm like Scentsy you could not use eBay.
The only ones you find are people who go out of business to liquidate or end users.
If affiliates are dumping product on eBay or Amazon it has an interesting effect on the economy. In a way, it allows the MLM game to continue longer than it should.
Most people who “garage qualify” (i.e. just buy a lot of stuff and no refund) now can make back at least partial investment in their inventory even if they can’t ‘retail’ it, as they manage to find another outlet, even if they have to take a loss. OTOH, dumping on Amazon and eBay destroys any “legitimate” retail out there.
MLMers will put out the “refund card”, i.e. if they can’t sell it why don’t they just ask for a refund for unsold inventory?
The answer is simple: they don’t want to disappoint their team. In fact, they probably LEARNED the tactic from their team leader, who used the same tactic.
Asking for refund basically triggers an intervention from their “team”, either a shame-n-blame session or secret deals where the team leader agrees to buy back the product under the table so it doesn’t trigger a commission clawback.
Now leaders don’t have to buyback, they’ll secretly suggest the minions to dump excess inventory on eBay.
Which is a roundabout way of saying: MLM products are NOT retailable.
@John Doh, There’s always garage sales and flea markets.
@k. Chang, One of the many unspoken truths of mlm.
I have seen plenty of dead sea mud masks competing for sales with Seacret mud masks on Amazon alone.
But is it wrong to sell on Amazon and Ebay? After all they have a built in customer base of buyers.
This looks like a good way to meet the retail requirements in my opinion, unless it is against the company’s policy.
Because the idea behind mlm is you have everyday folks in their extra time running a business of sorts. Once you can buy it at Wal-Mart the little 1man operation is done for.
So selling the unknown unproven “snake oil” with the exciting story of making millions.
Still has an appeal in this day and age?
Its nearly 2017 these mlm giants think no one can price shop or do basic research on products.
Greed still kills most of these before they get legs.
This may push the product into discount which may be against company policy, i.e. undercutting other retailers (it’s a fiction MLM must maintain, that they actually do retail).
To be somewhat fair to the companies, there are also many sellers on Amazon and eBay selling off products they’ve received as gifts that they no longer want or need for various reasons.
People selling gifts on Ebay is completely unrelated to people inventory loading and being forced to offload the product at reduced prices.
I agree.
The products will not be marketed on Amazon , eBay or Craigslist by me they will be marketed on a site competing with them.
I am glad the company rewards retailing as well as leadership with a diverse product line and time this will be huge.
To many people mis~understand “retail”. Whether you use the product, give it away, or throw it away… or sell it to re~coop your out of pocket (dosn’t matter), Retail customers have to purchase thru your company link as a non afilliate or it means nothing.
When your company has to open their books up to show where the money came from, it won’t say Bob sold to jane on Ebay.
I have been in business online for 7 years selling a variety of retail products. I looked into the Vasayo business because someone introduced me to it.
The founders of the business were extremely successful at building other successful businesses and they are offering to do it again but with a far more significant and important product line that has outstanding growth potential.
Yes, their former products are being sold on Amazon and on Ebay, but, how is that bad?
That means there is a market and a continuing demand because why? Maybe the products work or maybe they offer benefits to individuals that feel they have value so they purchase them over and over again.
If you don’t want to be part of a company like Vasayo, yet you want the product, you can still just sign up as a customer.
You can choose to do autoship or you can order one time. You can do it through the company or affiliate partner’s website or, if you see it online and you want to try it, you can do that too.
The new product line for Vasayo offers the latest and proven most effective methods in technology delivery systems. This simply means that the way the vitamins are made and the way they are put into your body, allows your body to absorb the majority of the vitamins rather than having them sail through your system and out the other end.
The new technology is called liposomal technology. Just look up liposomes on Google to find out more of what they are or you can watch the video on the Vasayo website that shows you how it works.
If you do the research, you will see that very little of the vitamins you use now are absorbed into your body, if at all. With the usual delivery sytem, they all, for the most part, have to go through your digestive system.
If you like lumps of pills sitting in your stomach, that may be ok. Even my chiropractor has told me that pills do sit in your stomach and don’t always dissolve, according to the x-rays he has seen. So this way of delivering vitamins to your body is so much more beneficial and only usage over time will prove how much more.
Back to Vasayo as a company. . . In addition, their line of products (with more to come) falls in line with what all healthcare research reveals. . . due to a variety of climate and soil factors, the lack of sun in many places, we are not getting the vitamins and minerals we need.
We also have an aging population that needs good supplements to help them in their attempts to remain active, reduce symptoms of brain fog, live longer and much more.
I signed up with Vasayo having never been a part of any of the founder’s other companies, not blindly, but after doing my research.
It took me about 2 weeks to decide how dedicated I wanted to be with this, and what was the worst that could happen? I get to try a whole new line of vitamins to replace the numerous vitamins I have been paying for over the last year, and get even better benefits for about the same cost.
AND, if I like what I try and think it works, I can now build a new business on the side that offers residual income.
I intend to sell the items through my own website, to others in person and through where ever else I am allowed to market the products.
I have already used 4/5 products for the past several weeks and my family members and variety of friends and others have started using them as well.
The founders have been using the products for months, along with their down lines, families and friends.
Everyone thinks their opinions will be biased, so we won’t worry about those, but others who are not members of Vasayo who are using the products, are starting to give their feedback.
I am getting some of my own feedback from those I have given some of the products to try. The results are positive so far with some helpful comments on others.
For example, several people have told me that they have had to adjust the amount of the sleep product they have been taking because they sleep in too long. Adjusting it seems to be working.
People using the energy supplement are replacing their caffeine and Monster drinks for the healthier alternative and saying that it seems to be working.
As with any and all vitamins, each person is different, so each person will have to adjust accordingly and check with their doctors to make sure they can take them by looking at the ingredients and effects the products are designed to achieve.
So the bottom line of this long story is. . there is nothing wrong with taking a new, exciting line of products and marketing them whatever way you deem is the best for you and for the company you are representing while helping the general public discover what else is available to enhance their lives. Fair enough?
@ Margaret
Key phrase – “even better benefits for about the same cost”
Could you provide details to back up this statement? How about listing your “old product” with name and price and compare that to the “Vasayo product” with name and price. Also include information to show why you “get even better benefits” with Vasayo products.
You know, apples-to-apples type comparison, so we can all see the numbers behind your evaluation and decision to become a distributor and customer with Vasayo.
Via email:
If you’re a Vasayo affiliate and your own autoship order is qualifying you for commissions (counting as a customer), that’s chain-recruitment.
You sign up on autoship, recruit other affiliates who do the same and get paid.
Can any Vasayo affiliates confirm?
Yes that’s correct, unless your moving mass product and have 2 other buddy’s under you doing the same, it’s a waste of time.
2019 anyone still involved with Vaseyo. In early stages now.
Didn’t reall Like what you guys had to say.
Review updated with news of Vasayo’s closure.