Vasayo shuts down, Daniel Picou to head up reboot MLM opp
On or around February 11th, Vasayo informed its distributors is was shutting down its MLM opportunity.
The announcement was made via a Zoom webinar, which I’ve unfortunately not been able to find a copy of.
Nonetheless following a tip off from a BehindMLM reader, here’s what I’ve been able to suss out.
Vasayo launched back in 2016. The company was founded by Monavie founder Dallin Larsen and wife Karree.
In BehindMLM’s published December 2016 Vasayo review, we praised the company’s strong retail focus.
Why Vasayo collapsed its MLM operations remains unclear. SimilarWeb tracked ~22,000 visits to Vasayo’s website in November 2022. That rose to ~28,000 in January 2023.
Neither Dallin Larsen or Vasayo corporate have issued a public statement addressing the closure.
Instead, Vasayo’s website is advertising a 50% off sale:
Various social media postings from Vasayo distributors claim Daniel Picou bought out the Larsens.
Picou is credited as co-founder and CEO of Vasayo. I’m not doubting that, but I didn’t come across Picou in researching Vasayo’s launch back in 2016.
On a May 2020 Vasayo webinar, Dallin Larsen described Picou as a “very private person”.
Whatever Picou has planned is scheduled to enter prelaunch on February 20th.
Given it takes far longer than a week to set up an MLM company, even a reboot of an existing MLM company, Vasayo’s demise has likely have been on the cards for some time.
Picou’s Vasayo reboot will purportedly remain in prelaunch till sometime in June.
BehindMLM intends to publish a full review pending release of further information on or before February 20th.
Update 23rd February 2023 – Daniel Picou’s new company is awkwardly named “Three”.
Three operates from the domain “iii.earth”. Pending compensation details being made public, BehindMLM will publish a full Three review.
Update 8th March 2023 – Vasayo has closed its official YouTube channel.
This video originally linked to the cited Vasayo 2020 webinar, featuring Dallin Larsen and Daniel Picou.
As a result of Vasayo’s channel closure, I’ve now disabled the previously accessible webinar link.
Dallin strikes again! 3 strikes your out?
He killed a juice company in 2000s. Started monarch Health sciences/ Monavie. $200m debt later TSG foreclosed in 2012 he lost company!
Vasayo 1.0 2.0 he flushed banked points 2 times. And now killed the company selling products for 50-75% off, turning off checks, flushing points for the 3rd time!
Yet 3 weeks ago everyone knew nothing!
You have to be desperate, dumb, or stupid to stay! The story is dead, the people cant run a company, and now a poached new master distributor is going to be the new story in Asia markets!
Vasayos chief science officer is starting a new company with Rob Alwin! (vasayo Black diamond)!
White label me too products to the rescue!
I’ll keep you updated.
You are so flushed, Roman; volumes have never been flushed twice. I still have volume from 2016 per se. When they switched CMS systems, they provided a URL or email address to retrieve any lost data. Even if you forget your AS, they would let you to reclaim your lost volume. They never stole or poached a master distributor. After conducting interviews, she joined them at the table, and they co-founded a new company. Her prior firm was sold (Jeunesse Sold to LaCore Enterprises) she’s a $100 million earner in retirement. During the past two years, Dallin has coped personally with his divorce and a new life. What company with over a billion dollars in annual revenue does not have debt? Either embark on the ship or depart. Last year they finished with revenues of $80m. Not the greatest but still lofty.
About Rob Alwin, he departed Vasayo many times and simultaneously built other MLMs. Each time he returned, he praised GOD for Vasayo’s forbearance; Vasayo forgave him several times. I don’t believe many corporations will allow a Black Diamond to establish competitor enterprises while jumping on the HEMP bandwagon and returning. There is a loss of credibility. Some executives or leaders may leave Vasayo, but others will remain and protect what they’ve achieved there. The company’s integrity was essential to keeping the teams together in this new journey. To move or stay is a decision one makes on their own or after being persuaded. All the best.
So, the new vitamins look very good, healthy. So the new doctor Goubler is not the one who invented these vitamins??
I would like to try them as I already take Exiler with Isagenix, with is great.
This group is stating Isagenix is in trouble??? Do I join or should I keep my distance?
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I was on the call yesterday, and the new products look good. I was surprised to see Daniel headed the zoom call with Dr. Gubler.
They both were with Vasayo before yesterday. Now they are with a new company that was founded by the top Jeunesse earner in retirement.
Products look good but I am not so sure about the leadership now.
So basically new company has been planned for months. Everyone will have to re buy in. What a founders packs? $2000 1200 pv on an old tired binary geared for Asians with another miracle of the rainforest.
But at least Ted will get another client to pump and pay for his next Dubai trip.
Article updated to note Picou’s new company name is Three.
Well Mark ……
I know they Flushed Volume Twice because I have a Family Member that was a Victim of it ……
Plus ….. For a guy Crying 6 years ago on how he is going to change Families Lives …. WoW …. He certainly did ….. Stole the $$ ….. Ans Starts it back up again a week later …… Same Stuff — Different Product Name …. And as Someone told me … Oh No …. Different Ingredients ….. Let’s All just Remember … You can find the Old Labels online ….. and THEY ARE THE SAME ……
Plus ( Not to mention Names ) …. He told me I’m not going back there to start over because ” My Volume is Gone as Well……
Huh ……
A……
Explain to me How a Three is a New Company ……. They were not Founded but the Gal from Jeunesse …..
They Closed for a week ….. Changed Labels but Kept the Same Ingredient Decks …. Flushed Volume and Re-Opened …. I DON’T Think Anybody would want to take Credit for that ……
And the Old Spokesperson …… Tracy is starting his own Company Now …..
C’mon ….. Wake Up !!! …… Even the OLD OWNER has a PIECE of the NEW COMPANY ….. Because I was told Directly by One of the Masters when I put them on the SPOT !!!!
Hmmmmmmm………
And Let’s Not forget …. I was told THE ONLY Way to get into the 2% Pool is you CANNOT Earn You Way into it ….. You HAVE to Meet Certain Requirements and it INVOLVES PURCHASE of the $2k Package ….. Oh and there are ONLY 20,000 of those Positions Available at this Time …. WHO COMES UP WITH THAT NUMBER …… ?????
Look at that FTC in this Situation ….. You CANNOT Purchase Positions !!!! PERIOD !!!
Three’s website domain was created in November 2022. It’s a new company in the sense it didn’t exist until then.
Obviously it’s going to carry over Vasayo’s baggage, it’s a rebrand. That Larsen has a stake in Three is the first I’m hearing of it.
Are we able to get the Vasayo SLEEP product anymore? It was the ONLY product that helped my Type 1 diabetic daughter go to sleep.
I doubt there’s anything unique is Vasayo’s Sleep product. Just look for something with the same primary ingredients.
Three doesn’t appear to have a sleep aid supplement.
It was already foretold.
I was one of the first to join Vasayo back in 2016. I learned some new skills and gained some nice relationships.
After achieving a few rank advancements and incentive trips, I also generated a side income. I started to feel uneasy and something just didn’t seem right.
I left Vasayo about 5 months ago (September 2022) to join a better structured and stable company with far better Leadership, more effective wellness products and significantly more profitable compensation plan.
Many of the orphaned distributors rejoined there new company, some followed their upline to another existing company, and some followed a different leader who put together a startup company.
Personally… I didn’t experience much great leadership so I chose to chart a completely different path away from anyone who was associated with Vasayo. So much happier and more profitable since!!!
What I know is that there are many customers who had come to rely on Vasayo products and for this company to just pull the rug out from under everyone speaks volumes for the lack of integrity.
How many companies sell out their distributors opportunities by allowing WalMart to market their products?
The buy in was too much and the products, good or bad were far too costly for the average wage earners!
Thanks VASAYO, Thanks Larson and everyone else who sold out customers and the boots on the ground!!!!
Typical MLM BS!!! First onboard…first to win! After that your just make the top wealthy!!! Shame!!!!
Well, I’m disappointed again, since we too were into MONAVIE, and that collapsed and now VASAYO. I will not sign up again with VASAYO and then to turn around and buy a big package to get back in.
I will be going over to Tracy Gibbs’s new company “LIFE WISE” that is starting up, since he will be having the SLEEP< NEURO< RENEW products at his company, plus many new other products he will be marketing for much less than Vasayo was. GOOD-BYE VAYASO!!
Obligatory review link:
behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/life-wise-review-vasayo-black-diamond-spins-off-own-mlm/
This makes me so angry. I was skeptical from the beginning and was told I asked too many unnecessary questions. I needed to have faith in the process. The Larson’s promised they’d never run and I should be OK with that.
I feel terrible for all the people who stopped asking questions. I feel terribly for actually bringing people in to this scheme when I smelled a rat from the beginning. To any I brought in reading this: my sincere apologies.
Washed up company. Terrible leadership. Great place to lose your money.
Make no mistake, this is only a rebrand of Vasayo. Same products, top distributors, comp plan etc.
I would say same corporate leadership but Dallin and Dan Zhu are gone and they were the only ones who knew anything about running an MLM. Now it’s just Picou who hasn’t got a clue.
This is a money grab where the company wants you to buy another big pack with empty promises of big returns. This only ever enriches the pre-ordained leaders under whom your account will be added despite them doing nothing for you or even knowing you.
You don’t have to believe me, but I’ve lived this already and I am right. You will lose your initial investment and will have nothing but sub-par products to show for it.
Does anyone know what the reason they explained for the shutdown? Not that their explanation would not be a lie.
I haven’t seen an official reason. You can kind of put two and two together from Vasayo’s declining website traffic though.
Dallin Larsen Message:
Many people lost their checks. Imagine you build for many years and have people ordering products and the next day they are 50-75% off.
Does that make any since at all?
Dallin Larsen is still the owner and founder along with the ex wife karree larsen. History will continue to repeat it self and Im not going to be used again.
Lawsuits.
Bit hard to take Larsen’s spiel at face value when that was essentially the pitch for Vasayo years ago and it didn’t eventuate.
I am extremely disturbed about Vasyao shutting down. Why they rebranded to “free” and trashed all products; exception of a few. I will not invest in a company that is so disloyal to their customers about why they had to buckle!!
Some products in my opinion were suffering because FDA WAS putting warning labels on their products such as V-Shake. “Could cause cancer!! This might explain revamp.
For me I am DONE✅
No Transparency, No guilt?
I was onboard as a founder. I made my monthly PV signed and grew but not big, but enjoyed large growth in outsied leg.
Feeling my future was still anchored, I have spent $144 x 6 yrs & Fpounder’s fee $12,0000 Yes countless miles and hours recruiting (I said it).
I enjoyed the process. I believed in the Trinity and trusted Dallin to be a true open leader. He speaks well but does not reflect himself oit seems by continuing to make this change public and open, It borders on criminnal we were business owners, not customers, He said we have a legacy, non flushing.
That would seem to be fraud if people get to stay and others cannot hold any equity at all.
Why not come clean somewhere and say what has happened. No Diamonds seem to speak the truth either, do they? So much weird silence.
What does Holly & Roushes do or get to choose. Didn’t they have the same opportunity “Contract” as all of us, Other than top position, which they did do well at.
I am only 4 levels below them and because I was in a direct keg of a leg of a leg the count was over 12,000 Some had way more (Equity I called it) A false fact, now.
Even the founders pack in 2016-17 was never expalined leagally. Dallin personally said the pool of ALL, monthly sales was to be divided 2% amongst qualifiers at each level gold and up. A Finite amount of people. Founders!!!
But later when they expanded to ther countries, where the sponsorship originated from the 2016-2017 people. He again seemed to magically offer another new tier of founders???? Reslicing the primary Pie.
That alone was a signal We all had to be active every period 100% OR YOU WOULD FLUSH OUT & NEVER REGAIN YOUR FOUNDER Bonus when you earned it, No one explained those cash infusions either.
How much credibilty do we retain when we reperesent to others, a pipe dream we do not control or know about. We seem to bve fools.
I have had my heart in 3 since 82 Amway, Monavie, Vasayo. Who do you trust or believe in, even if you are honest, it does not have validity.
Yes only 3% make money, Who ????
At a job 100% do each 40 hours. Or they quit or sue. I never berate a job or a college degree. Thats how many of us have gotten by. Even Dallin. But the charismatic 3% don’t seem as pressed to make lowly sums below even 50K.
The pathos Dallin & the speakers say makes us feel for them, but really we are at the mercy of few facts.
A nice house and appearance is almost a must. laws of attraction are real. People are sometimes praised or preyed upon.
I know I care, I wish no harm, I want to help and not take advantage of people and support them to excel and surpass; not have them support me.
I am almost 70 and trying to know my new future. Five close friends have died these last 4 months and I am runnig out of time and options.
I want to be happy not jaded. I dont ewant to hear about Dallin climbing Kilimanjaro, having a new wife, baby, travelling the world and pretending all is okay.
It is better to say nothing and keep himself silent if he offers no honesty and truth.
In a 20 year career, I suffered multiple concussions at my job in law enforcement. In 2017, the last concussion put me out of work.
Neuro was only product that helped me with fogginess and V3 helped me with my fatigue. Is there anywhere I can still get those products?
Not if it’s not being manufactured. I’d suggest taking a bottle to an actual medical practitioner and going from there.
Life Wise has 3 new products very effective and similar to previous products DREAM, *CLARITY*, and RESTORE.
In my opinion, Tracy Gibbs is a genius. He greatly helped my cancer (Ozedit: snip, see below)
Feel free to provide peer-reviewed studies to prove Tracy Gibbs’ products had any effect on your cancer.
Failing which shame on you for targeting vulnerable people with your Life Wise marketing lies.
So the products from the new company (‘Three’) are the same as the ones that were sold before through Vasayo?
I believe so. Three hasn’t come up for review yet so I haven’t looked into it.
A bunch of my friends have joined Three and are trying to get me to join. Worth it or not?
I’ve always been skeptical on companies like this. I know nothing about marketing and have fill time job.
I have tried looking up Three on sunbiz and have found a couple of companies but their register agents are subsidiary companies.
Any advice?
Three has been on the review list for a while. Haven’t gotten around to it yet unfortunately.