NewULife Review: Homeopathic human growth hormone gel
NewULife operate in the health and wellness MLM niche and are based out of California in the US.
The company is headed up founder Alex Goldstein.
Goldstein’s NewULife corporate bio cites him as a
certified homeopath, herbalist, respected iridologist, nutritional consultant (and) creator of many exclusive formulas.
The bio goes on to claim Goldstein took over the family business at age 18.
Store owner by day, college student by night, Goldstein mastered and expanded his retail business.
Soon, he began researching the products he was selling and wondered if he could develop his own line to higher standards and answer particular customer needs.
After he graduated, Goldstein “went back to school” and became a Certified Homeopath and Certified Herbalist.
His new comprehensive knowledge of the human body, combined with insights gained from customer interactions, highlighted gaps in the marketplace.
This led him to launch Natural Life Foods, a line of natural, premium nutraceutical products the company retails online and in their California stores.
The beginning of what sprouted the rest of the phenomenal quality companies to follow.
One of those companies in NewULife, launched by Goldstein earlier this year.
Read on for a full review of the NewULife MLM opportunity.
NewULife Products
NewULife market a flagship gel containing “homeopathic human growth hormone”.
NewULife’s homeopathic HGH gel is the only transdermal, FDA registered human growth hormone product available without a prescription.
The molecular breakdown of HGH found in HGH gel is a synthetic USP human growth hormone (somatropin).
“Expected benefits” of using HGH gel provided on the NewULife website include:
- improved stamina
- increased energy
- improved sleep
- vivid dreams
- improved muscle definition
- heightened libido
- increased strength
- significant weight loss
- improved vision
- enhanced focus
- enhanced muscle mass
- hair growth
- PMS symptoms reduced
- greater flexibility
- healthier nails
- improved joint mobility
- increase in sexual desire
- alleviation in some menopausal symptoms
- greater improvements in skin texture and appearance
- skin has greater elasticity
- reduction of the appearance of wrinkles
- hair becomes even healthier and thicker
- cellulite greatly diminishes
- improved immune system
- pain & general soreness diminishes
- wounds heal quicker
- greater metabolic output
- grayed hair returns to natural color
- reduction in LDL cholesterol
- blood pressure normalizes
- heart rate improves
NewULife advise that none of the “expected benefits” above have been ‘evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration‘.
NewULife’s HGH gel retails at $169.99 for a 3.5 oz (100 ml) pump bottle.
The NewULife Compensation Plan
The NewULife compensation plan rewards affiliates for selling products to retail customers and recruiting new affiliates.
NewULife Affiliate Ranks
There are seven affiliate ranks within the NewULife compensation plan.
Along with their respective qualification criteria, they are as follows:
- Associate – sign up and generate 140 PV over a rolling five-week period
- Promoter – maintain 140 PV over a five-week rolling period and recruit and maintain at least two Associates (one on either side of the binary team)
- Coordinator – maintain 140 PV over a five-week rolling period, recruit and maintain at least four Associates (two on both sides of the binary team) and generate 5000 GV in your weaker binary side (five weeks)
- Coach – maintain 140 PV over a five-week rolling period, recruit and maintain at least six Associates (three on both sides of the binary team) and generate 10,000 GV in your weaker binary side (five weeks)
- Life Coach – maintain 140 PV over a five-week rolling period, maintain at least six Associates (three on both sides of the binary team) and generate 20,000 GV in your weaker binary side (five weeks)
- Ambassador – maintain 140 PV over a five-week rolling period, recruit and maintain at least eight Associates and generate 50,000 GV in your weaker binary side (five weeks)
- Diamond Ambassador – maintain 140 PV over a five-week rolling period, recruit and maintain at least ten Associates and generate 100,000 GV in your weaker binary side (five weeks)
Retail Commissions
NewULife pay retail commissions on the sale of products to retail customers (non-affiliates).
- one retail order of HGH gel pays a $45 commission
- a HGH gel retail autoship order pays a $25 commission
- a retail commercial customer order (40 gel order) pays a $520 commission
Recruitment Commissions
NewULife affiliates are paid to recruit new affiliates.
How much of a recruitment commission is paid out is determined by how much a newly recruited affiliate spends when they sign up:
- recruit a standard affiliate ($199) and get paid $20
- recruit a Pro Pack affiliate ($499) and get paid $60
- recruit an Executive Pack affiliate ($899) and get paid $120
A residual recruitment commission one each recruited affiliate is paid out to Coach and higher ranked affiliates.
Residual recruitment commission rates are as follows:
- new standard affiliate = $20
- new Pro Pack affiliate = $60
- new Executive Pack affiliate = $120
These commissions are paid out as a coded bonus determined by rank.
When a new NewULife affiliate is recruited, the system pays the a residual recruitment commission to the recruiting affiliate as follows:
- Coaches are paid 20%
- Life Coaches are paid 30%
- Ambassadors are paid 30%
- Diamond Ambassadors are paid 20%
The system then searches the upline to pay the remaining residual commission.
E.g. if a Coach ranked affiliate recruited a new affiliate, they’d be paid 20% of the residual recruitment commission rate with 80% remaining.
If this was a standard affiliate recruitment, the Coach would be paid 20% of $20 ($2), with $18 remaining.
The system would then continue to search for a Life Coach or higher ranked affiliate to pay the remaining $18 to.
If an Ambassador ranked affiliate was the next found, they’d be paid 60% (they receive the Life Coach Coded Bonus).
The first upline Diamond Ambassador after that would be paid the remaining 20%.
A Coded Bonus does try to pay sequentially on rank, however if the next qualifying affiliate is of a higher rank, they collect the bonus percentages allocated to lower ranks.
This means that when a Diamond Ambassador recruits a new affiliate, they receive 100% of the residual recruitment commission rate.
Lower ranked affiliates receive their rank percentage plus that of ranks below them. The remainder is passed up as per the coded bonus explanation above.
Residual Commissions
NewULife pay residual commissions via a binary compensation structure.
A binary compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a binary team, split into two sides (left and right):
The first level of the binary team houses two positions. The second level of the binary team is generated by splitting these first two positions into another two positions each (4 positions).
Subsequent levels of the binary team are generated as required, with each new level housing twice as many positions as the previous level.
Positions in the binary team are filled via direct and indirect recruitment of affiliates. Note there is no limit to how deep a binary team can grow.
Sales volume is generated across the binary team via retail sales and affiliate orders.
At the end of each week NewULife tally up generated sales volume.
Residual commissions are paid using a 600/400 PV ratio. That is 600 PV on one side of the binary team is matched with 400 PV on the other side.
Each match is referred to as a “cycle”, with a cycle generating a commission based on rank:
- Promoter and Coordinator affiliates earn $40 per cycle
- Coach and higher ranked affiliates earn $60 per cycle
Note that all NewULife affiliates are capped at 417 cycles a week.
To qualify for residual commissions a NewULife affiliate must
- generate 140 PV over a rolling five-week period (280 PV for Coach and higher ranked affiliates) and
- recruit at least two affiliates who each generate 140 PV or more over a rolling five-week period
Matching Bonus
NewULife pay a Matching Bonus via a unilevel compensation structure.
A unilevel compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a unilevel team, with every personally recruited affiliate placed directly under them (level 1):
If any level 1 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 2 of the original affiliate’s unilevel team.
If any level 2 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 3 and so on and so forth down a theoretical infinite number of levels.
Using this unilevel compensation structure, NewULife pay a Matching Bonus on residual binary commissions on up to seven levels of recruitment.
- Coordinator ranked affiliates earn a 10% match on level 1 (personally recruited affiliates)
- Coach ranked affiliates each a 15% match on level 1 and 10% on level 2
- Life Coach ranked affiliates earn a 15% match on level 1, 10% on level 2 and 5% on level 3
- Ambassador ranked affiliates earn a 15% match on level 1, 10% match on level 2 and 5% on levels 3 and 4
- Diamond Ambassador ranked affiliates earn a 15% match on level 1, 10% match on level 2 and 5% match on levels 3 to 7
Car Bonus
Coach ranked NewULife affiliates receive a $700 a month Car Bonus.
Ambassador and higher ranked affiliates receive $1500 a month.
Joining NewULife
Basic NewULife affiliate membership is $199. This options comes with one bottle of HGH gel.
NewULife affiliates can also opt to sign up with a Pro Pack for $499 (6 bottles) or an Executive Pack for $899 (8 bottles).
Conclusion
There’s no question NewULife’s “expected benefits” list for what is essentially a gel application product is impressive.
Perhaps less so though when you dig deeper.
For starters while NewULife’s HGH gel is registered with the FDA, the regulators hasn’t tested the product.
That means the “expected benefits” are based on… well NewULife don’t really say.
The active ingredient in the HGH gel is somatropin.
According to WebMD, somatropin is used to treat
growth failure, growth hormone deficiency, intestinal disorder (short bowel syndrome) or HIV-related weight loss or wasting.
Somatropin is also used to increase height in children with certain genetic disorders (such as Noonan syndrome, Turner’s syndrome).
This is for the injection variety mind. I didn’t find anything on a gel application outside of NewULife’s marketing material.
Despite listing a plethora of spectacular “expected benefits”, NewULife attempt to cover themselves with the standard FDA disclaimer:
These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration.
These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
Curious about the difference between something being FDA registered and approved, I went searching on the FDA website.
That lead to the discovery that one of Alex Goldstein’s other companies, Strike First Nutrition also has a HGH gel registered with the FDA (click to enlarge):
As you can see both products appear to be identical, with the exception that Strike First Nutrition’s HGH gel has been marketed from October 2nd, 2015.
Alexa currently rank the Strike First Nutrition website at 6.3 million, which for an e-commerce site is dead.
How is it that this wonder HGH gel with purportedly significant medical benefits hasn’t caught on in two and a half years?
Strike First Nutrition currently list the HGH gel as being “out of stock”. Further research however suggests it retailed for $149.99, $20 cheaper than NewULife.
Why the $20 markup? No idea.
Oh and as to the boilerplate FDA disclaimer, here’s an additional “expected benefit” of the HGH gel you won’t find on the NewULife website;
Medically speaking, the flu is classified as an infectious disease.
Considering we’re talking about a retail spend of $180 for a 100 ml bottle of HGH gel, I have some serious reservations as to the retail viability of the product.
And that’s pretty important when you factor in NewULife currently has no alternative products to fall back on.
And that leads us into NewULife’s compensation plan.
The first red-flag are the direct and residual recruitment commissions paid out. This shouldn’t be happening in any company.
At least not without a “no product” affiliate membership option, wherein affiliates can choose to purchase products if they wish.
The next red flag ties directly into the retail viability of NewULife’s HGH gel.
Here’s two MLM commission qualification definitions taken directly from the NewULife compensation plan documentation:
Active - This means that you must maintain at least 140 PV within a 5-week rolling period.
Being on autoship for at least 140 PV is the best way to maintain an active status.
Qualified – This means you must maintain an active status and at least two active personally sponsored Distributors, one on each leg.
To earn MLM commissions in NewULife, all affiliates must be active. As above, the best way to qualify for MLM commissions is via monthly autoship.
I’m sorry, shouldn’t the best way to qualify for commissions in an MLM company be via the sale of products and services to retail customers?
Residual binary commissions require “Qualified” criteria to be met, which is recruit two active affiliates.
It follows that the best way to be qualified is sign up for autoship yourself and recruit two other affiliates who do the same.
At no point are retail sales encouraged or even necessary. Not if you want to achieve the best way to qualify for Active and Qualified.
The combination of a product with questionable retail viability and a focus on affiliate autoship recruitment, lends itself to an MLM company operating as a pyramid scheme.
Significant retail sales volume is required to balance out affiliate autoship orders, and in NewULife I’m just not seeing it.
For all the purported “expected benefits” of HGH gel, I think what it comes down to is if Alex Goldstein wasn’t able to sell it successfully through Strike First Nutrition, why would NewULife affiliates fare any better?
What the **** does “homeopathic” have ANYTHING to do with this?
Homeopathic hormone is an oxymoron.
Iridology is the bogus science there the iris is examined to determine health of the person.
Homeopathy is “treatment of disease by minute doses of natural substances”. This HGH is synthetic. It’s totally BOGUS and UNhomeopathic.
I can’t wait to see the NewULife explanation of how a topical application of a hormone makes its’ way past the skin barrier and then supposedly works in a similar manner to prescribed injectable HGH.
For that matter, if it did work as described (and the FTC can find no evidence HGH pills, sprays and gels work the same as injections) then why when a patient sits in a bath does he or she not absorb sufficient bathwater to explode ?
From the marketing material I read, you’re supposed to rub it into areas where you can see your veins.
Thus the HGH gel is supposedly absorbed into your bloodstream.
Not correct. Homeopathy is treatment of disease by water (or sugar pills or another medium). The “natural substance”, whatever it is, is diluted again and again and again until no trace of the ingredient remains. There isn’t a “minute dose”, there is no dose.
Homeopaths claim the remedy still works because the water has “memory” of the ingredient, which is as woo as it sounds.
So Oz didn’t really need to go into all that detail about the “active ingredient”. If this is indeed a homeopathic remedy, then by defintion there is no active ingredient (this isn’t just me being a sceptic, this is what homeopathy means to homeopaths) and Newulife are selling $170 bottles of handwash.
So who would have tested the product and conclude to all the listed benefits mentioned above?
Seems like quite the huge list!
Easiest money in MLM is by controlling your COSTS.
If your product is worthless – you can get rich!!
I suspect he is putting new labels on OLD STOCK with this relaunch of the same product that never really sold in the first place.
We can probably bank on other mlm programs doing the same thing.
Lots of padding to pay those commissions upline!!
Malthusian is correct, but he forgot a further important point: according to the principles of homeopathy the effect of a homeopathic preparation is supposed to be the opposite of the substance whose “memory” it retains.
Equivalently, the cure for a disease in a healthy person would produce the same symptoms as the disease.
This is not a detail: the “homeo-” prefix in “homeopathy” describes this sameness.
This comes from Wikipedia, at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy:
As a practical demonstration of the silliness of all of this, James Randi used to swallow supposedly dangerous doses of homeopathic sleeping pills in public, at the beginning of his lectures. The preparation was supposed to contain “memory” of caffeine.
They are not even correctly applying the basic principles of their own laughable discipline.
I thought hgh scams were so last decade?
Either way by now the market has fallen for these and science pretty much says if you want any benefits you need to directly inject pharmaceutical hgh.
I know a lady using this and she is noticing results.
I don’t quite understand their payment plan, but not really interested in that.
My Auntie Ethel says she used it and nothing happened, so that’s your anecdote cancelled out.
The way the payment plan works is that you pay Newulife money every month (a tiny percentage of which is used to send you some worthless handwash with no active ingredients) and in exchange you then try to recruit other people into the scheme and persuade them to pay Newulife money every month.
When they do you get a cut of their monthly payments, and those of people who join under them.
Basic mathematics dictates that participants will rapidly exhaust the number of people willing to join such schemes, most will fail to recruit enough people and earn enough commission to cover their monthly fees, and most people will lose money.
The handwash is irrelevant.
Hgh MUST cross the Blood Brain Barrier in order to be effective! Some crap you rub on your skin is NOT going to work End of Discussion.
@Top Gun: The discussion actually ends a step before that.
At the risk of banging on, this is a homeopathic remedy, which means there is no human growth hormone present. There is therefore nothing to cross the blood brain barrier in the first place.
This is not a sceptical statement like “There is no God”, this is what homeopathy means to homeopaths.
@ Malthusian: Yowza!! I just had someone send me a bottle I will report my results in about 45 day’s from today. Most likely laughable results. innocent until proven guilty LOL
Of course whether or not the product works isn’t all that relevant anyway as MLMing isn’t a product but rather a system. A system that has a 99% failure rate for those who join.
When looking for a nice introduction to cite in a similar discussion some time ago I stumbled upon this article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
It is a very good survey of the difficulties of observation in a scientific context, even assuming perfect good faith; you can see it as a list of precautions to keep while measuring any phenomenon in a rigorous way.
Highly recommended to anybody who plans to personally test a product for efficacy.
Sorry Oz; no more off-topic contributions to this thread from me after this.
This is NOT homeopathic HGH. This Is a synthetic drug.
One of their ingredients is also potassium sorbate which has been shown in studies to be a genetic disruptor and negatively disrupt your DNA. Buyer beware.
The HgH content is listed as “30X”. If I’m not mistaken, that means they take one part of hgh and dilute it with 10 parts of water. They then take one part of that and dilute it with 10 parts of water. They repeat this process another 28 times.
Basically, you end up with 1 part of HgH to 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 parts of water (1 * 10 to the 30th).
For comparison’s sake, the mass of the earth is 5.98 * 10 to the 27 grams. 1 times to the 30th is roughly 100 times MORE than that.
Bottom line – if there’s that little HgH in their product, their production costs are pretty low!
Im using it , and it works great. Has dramatically lessened the effects of Menopause that I am experiencing and has helped my sleep patterns immensely.
Say what you will , but if you are not using it yourself, you may just want to sit down and well… you know 😉 try it , THEN make a comment …
non-biased, reputable, peer reviewed paper documenting your claims please.
once you can produce that as proof of your claims, THEN make a comment.
Amazing how many people post and have no idea what they are talking about!
Homeopathic products do work and if you understand quantum physics you would understand why.
Secondly most people do fail in mlms because they are lazy and dont know how to sell or too scared to ask people to try the product.
I personally know a plethora of people who have used the product and had life changing results.
Give me $10 million and I will get a double blind peer reviewed study on anything.(Hence half the drugs on the market have more side effects than medicinal results).
And transdermal delivery works and is used for almost every hormone therapy.
It does not have to pass the blood brain barrier to increase IGF1 levels.
When you inject something into your adipose tissue it does not cross the blood brain barrier which is how hgh injections are administered.
Quantum Mechanics and homeopathy.
Remember that everything in the universe is energy, vibration and frequency!
subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/QuantumHomeopathy.htm
@Mark
Please tell us more about how quantum mechanics proves homeopathy works. I read the Greek guy’s paper but am not sure I quite got it.
I promise I genuinely want to know more and am not just encouraging you to make a fool of yourself for our amusement.
Been using this for over 3 months and say what you will, this works!
I sleep better, I dream vividly, I have more energy, my moods are happier, my daily headaches are gone, no joint pain, lost some weight, eyebrows, eyelashes and hair are growing in again, nails are stronger, skin looks younger…
I don’t care how it’s working – I just feel so much better that I know it’s working.
Thanks you all for talking me down, lol.
^^ You started your comment on a review of a specific MLM company with
and then proceeded to launch into a tirade of cliched MLM social media copypasta. And you’re wondering why I marked your comment as spam?
If you have nothing relevant to add to the discussion, stay on Facebook.
Homeopathic HGH 30X – this dilution means that the original substance has been diluted 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times.
That’s like taking a bottle of pure HGH and mixing it with more than the total amount of all water on Earth. Actually you would need the total water of over a million Earths.
This is highly pure water. The likelihood of a single molecule of HGH being found in a bottle of this product is extremely low. The contaminants leaching from the container itself would be far more easy to find.
The memory effects in water have been studied and published, and the memory lasts for a far shorter time than a billionth of a second.
I find it hilarious that someone thinks that an 18th century notion which was thought up before the concepts of an atom or molecule was completely recognized, has anything to do with quantum physics.
Yes, I understand quantum physics, passed my graduate courses in it, still read the latest discussions and findings on it, and I’m guessing you are trying to invoke quantum entanglement.
You clearly have no clue about quantum physics to even try to go there.
This product is a classic very expensive placebo.
Any discussion of somatropin is beside the point because there is nothing here. FDA simply isn’t going to worry about the safety of a bottle of water gel.
I’m hearing of hundreds of people getting results with this product. All I see here is people who haven’t tried it saying it doesn’t work.
What you are hearing is ancedotes. There is a saying in medical science, the plural of ancedote is not evidence.
By your logic, if I told you a story that I felt much better after recovering from a snake bite and then claimed I believed the snake bite helped me, then you would want to go have a snake bite too.
Slapping a homeopathic gel on your skin is basically the same level of evidence, only difference is your common sense tells you that a snake bite is probably not good.
It’s simply because you don’t have any scientific common sense that you think your statements are reasonable.
The very fact that the current size of the global homeopathy product market is reportedly estimated at over 4 billion dollars(US) and that stores like the Whole Foods chain in the US devote whole aisles to marketing it, tells you there is definitely money to be made and a large number of people willing to believe in it and buy it and convince themselves it works.
The power of the mind to delusion should not be understimated. Placebo in medicine is a powerful effect and it’s why double blind controlled studies have to be done.
Even those studies have to be done carefully or misleading conclusions can occur.
The question is not whether you can make money peddling this version of a 19th century medicine show “miracle cure” but whether it is ethical to do so given by no stretch of the imagination is there anything recognizable as actual medical science backing it up.
The problem is such effects are not reliable and very often besides placebo effects, people do simply get better on their own.
Just because any one person claims they applied it and felt it worked, is extremely weak evidence that the next person applying it will feel anything.
No hospital medical bioethics board would allow a Doctor to replace HGH with Homeopathic HGH in treating a patient that really needed HGH for the simple reason that it would be highly unethical to replace something with nothing.
So you can claim all the stories you want, but without any check on common human gullibility, it remains a more than highly questionable endevour.
Tell us, Bryan, where does one go to hear these hundreds of stories ??
I just saw this,
subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/QuantumHomeopathy.htm
An M.D. in Greece attempting to claim a connection between quantum mechanics and homeopathy.
First off, you don’t need to learn quantum mechanics to get a medical degree. And it shows here, this guy gets QM completely wrong in his first paragraph and it goes down from there.
The law of Reflection is a macroscopic effect not a quantum effect. He is mixing physics terms of macroscopic effects of classical physics and barely touching the surface quantum mechanics.
He throws bits of historical terms, etc. There is really nothing here but nonsense. Any actual quantum physicist would be scratching their head.
You can’t do a bunch of handwaving like this and magically show any real connection to quantum fields.
Saying “everything in the universe is energy, vibration and frequency!” is not saying anything. You could just as well say everything in the universe is fields.
So at least the Greek M.D. understands that nothing is there past 12X dilution (the homeopathic HGH is 30x)
“When reaching the 12th centecimal dilution, there is not even one molecule of the initial substance inside the solution ( Am. Avogadro’s law ).
However the potentizations (dilutions and vibrations) continue, resulting in the increase of the remedy’s force. What actually increases is the width of the wave of the vibrating self frequency of the substance, its pure energy form.”
Making claims here without evidence or any actual data. Just some crude hand drawings like this was a 18th century report. How appropriate.
Somewhere in this mish-mash is a hidden assumption about the presence of “the Vital Force”. You actually see it mentioned elsewhere when homeopaths trying to invoke QM as an explanation for nothing working.
The mish-mash of classicial physics thrown in here with the discussion of spins and most of what is here seems to be just referencing classical electromagnetism and not quantum field theory.
There is also a complete absence of in actual calculations. This completely ignores that precision in quantum mechanics comes from the mathematics, not from the cartoon analogies and interpretations in a given human language ( English (Greek?) ).
Trying to argue that you can explain something with quantum mechanics without using the equations of quantum mechanics is pure folly.
It’s why popular books like The Tao of Physics cause actual quantum physicists to cringe in pain.
This product is a joke. Real HGH is classified as a schedule 3 drug in the USA. These owners are making an absolute fortune peddling bottled water and a binary plan only a fool would join.
Straight money game and pyramid. Recruit, Recruit, Recruit.
The whole thing is a Joke. Major leaders Pimping water to their huge email list..Plain and simple.
Of course the suckers are going to claim they feel great after receiving their $87.89 12 pack of water after shipping and tax…if they dont…they feel even worse!!!
Such a shame… another Lotion and Potion.. if it had the HGH it claimed it did. IT WOULD BE ILLEGAL!! Plain and SIMPLE!!
Or perhaps the product is just not worth buying and the people can’t convince anyone to pay monthly for it.
Mainly because EVERYONE THAT WANTS IT is already a member!!
Wish I would have seen this article a month ago when I signed up.
I was excited to see an HGH product that I could get without a prescription. The injectable pen I was looking at was $1000 so this seemed like semi reasonable price point.
WORST PART is I still have’t received my product. Ive called the support number multiple times and no one answers??
How do these companies get away with this?
I hope I can get my money back. Anyone else experiencing this like me?
@Mike Simmons, since you have already tried to resolve the issue with the vendor and they have refused to even respond, you should just put in a dispute with your credit card.
If they ignore that, the dispute will be upheld. If they respond, it will still most likely be upheld since they didn’t supply you with your order.
However, depending on the card you used, you typically only have 30 or 60 days to dispute a charge, so don’t delay.
The person whom you got the information from, should have told you that it was on backorder. I am waiting for mine also. Backorders started going out the first week in May & it said it would take two weeks to get them all out.
It is micro-dosed. It does enter the bloodstream & reaches cellular level.
Perhaps you should educate yourself on the product from the company & not website that have nothing to do with or hear say.
Knowledge is power… Smart people educate themselves.
Product ordered in March has been shipped. Product ordered 4/1-4/12 ships this week. 4/13-4/30 the following week.
10,000+ shipments in 1 week…. lets be real. There are going to be delays for any company that is still in soft-launch.
The company has received such an incredible influx of demand. The demand far outpaced and exceeded the manufacturing ability to keep up.
The company is currently suspending new orders or enrollments so that they can continue to fullfill the current orders pending & align more manufacturing channels and build inventory.
Many are still awaiting their product. Demand is great, which tells you that you should anticipate some great results!
Apple iPhone does the same darn thing… I also dont go to a new restaurant that open last wee and expect 5 star service with speed.
There are 2 facebook customer testimonial groups with over 76,000 people in them sharing photos, stories, results etc…
There is no “it”. There is no active ingredient in a homeopathic product.
No “micro-dose”. No dose whatsoever. There is nothing there to reach the cells.
Perhaps you should educate yourself on what homeopathy means even according to homeopaths.
Smart people don’t pay $90 for soap. Does that sound like something a smart person does to you?
Smart people earn money by providing something of value, they don’t need to scam people in pyramid schemes.
There’s a reason most MLM reps can barely string a sentence together without dropping ellipses everywhere in the way that a horse drops horseshit.
Nonsense.
The most popular NewULife Facebook page has:
2,254 people like this 2,454 people follow this 53 Reviews
On top of which your supposed FDA approved product has “The statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease”
So, what exactly is the product FDA approved as ??
And, why is the Somaderm Facebook page claiming the delays in shipment are caused by a “change in manufacturer” rather than the reason you’ve given ???
On the NewULife Somaderm page in large letters it states:
SOMADERM™ Gel
NDC #61877-0005-1
If we go to (National Drug Code) NDC #61877-0005-1 what do we find ???
“Market Category UNAPPROVED HOMEOPATHIC”
that explains why you’re still a dope.
The company NewULife is in full and absolute DAMAGE CONTROL. They can’t circle the wagons any tighter.
They didn’t ship any product from late March through April and into May. They shipped some product out recently, and afterwards told their distributors that they’ve shipped 2/3’s of the orders BUT ONLY to people already in the deal.
Now the company’s higher ups are telling distributors that they won’t be able to ship products to new people for about 50 days.
Therefore, zero sales volume is being created. Therefore, virtually no commission checks are going out.
The company has brought on some corporate hotshot named Bruce Levitin who is being billed as the “savior” to fix the manufacturing and distribution issues.
The dude’s been with some big companies such as Home Depot. One has to wonder why the hell he’d jump on board with this company.
The company heads and higher-up distributors are on calls and webinars that are taking place regularly to keep people on board, but slowly people are coming to their senses and are jumping off the sinking ship.
This whole thing is one big f-ing joke. I think NewULife should change its name to TITANIC.
Who would want any synthetic products in their body, vitamins or otherwise, never mind one from any mlm company where lies and hype are all you get in most every case when it comes to supplements.
These bottled water scams are never ending.
I started on the product April 3rd. along with my wife. Having had a problem sleeping for the past two years I was very happy to have been sleeping through the night since then.
My wife had hot flashes every night. She was taking Paxil for that but it stopped working. Her hot flashes have been gone since April 6th.
Our energy is much better, our moods are much better and I just cancelled an upcoming epidural for my lower back. I do not need it.
Say what you will, this product works. It is a shame that demand outpaced supply.
People are on the Facebook page saying it’s a scam because they haven’t received their product yet.
I ordered March 28th and they sent one bottle at that time. Then they went into full backorder. Luckily someone sent us a bottle so we were able to stay on it.
May 16th. we received the other three.
This is the furthest thing from a scam. It is more like the biggest product the World has ever seen.
The way they went from 3,000 distributors in early April to 12,000 5 weeks later with the product on back order is because of the testimonials real people are getting.
The testimonials are on two websites that people have to be invited to: Girls Club Testimonials and Guys Club Testimonials.
If you want to text me my number is: 910.340.4717 I will invite you. By the way, if a Company went into a back order situation and just did nothing that would be one thing.
This Company brought in the Vice President of Home Depot from the days that he helped that Company go from 138 stores to 2,200. He is an expert in infrastructure.
A week and a half ago he was on a live call, his first instruction: No new enrollments with product for the next 60 days.
This way as they ramp up Manufacturing all current distributors can receive their autoship. Sounds good to me.
Where are the peer-reviewed studies?
All I’m seeing is anecdotal evidence NewULife affiliates.
One of the comments on this page said that NewULife is in “soft launch”. As compared to a “hard launch”? Or as compared to “pre launch? Hard? Soft? Pre?
NewULife is beginning to sound like a bad porn movie from the 70s titled “Soft Hard Joy Pole”.
Let’s get real! This company is a joke. Its one and only product, Somaderm, has been sold under three different names in just the past two years. THINK ABOUT IT!!!
What kind of “Einstein” company owner tries to make money selling a skin gel under three different names?????
I’ll tell you who, a desperate slime ball con artist who knows he can suck in people into his mlm scheme.
His first two attempts to sell the product (direct to consumers from two different web sites) failed. So he quickly created NewULife and is now trying to pump the product (which is pumped from a dinky bottle) through network marketing, because he knows he can make a quick buck preying on stupid network marketers who will believe anything they hear and who will never go online and click on a few web sites to learn the truth about their beloved NewULife.
OH and get this . . . at the NewULife Facebook page are posts of people asking for their money back. Cracks me up!
Also, people in the company are bragging that the company has 12K, 15K, even 25K “happy customers”, yet at their Facebook page are only a few dozen “likes” per post. It’s all bullshit.
OH . . . in an effort to keep people from leaving, now the owner is pitching some product he’s going to release a year from now, telling everyone it will be “bigger and better” than Somaderm, which he couldn’t sell under the first two names, and is now trying to sell it through mlm.
I wonder if NewULife’s Somaderm gel can be used in a porn movie? The name of the movie can be “Hard Soft Maybe Never”. Hey, they could get Stormy Daniels’ in the lead role!
To all of NewULife’s distributors . . . if you really believe your company is the “next big thing”, then please visit me here in Utah as I’ve got some ocean-front property outside of Provo to sell you.
I have a friend that tried to recruit me into this company a few weeks ago. I will say upfront now that I’m glad I DID NOT join!
Though I don’t generally look at start-ups, the product initially intrigued me as a middle aged guy.
I mean who wouldn’t want to lose weight without exercise, no longer need reading glasses to see, have their gray hair turn back its original color in weeks, get better sleep with vivid dreams, naturally improve one’s sex life, and other “testimonials” that were shared with me?
So I decided to do some diligence on the owner. Turns out when I did a little digging, no verifiable background information on the owner “Alexy Goldstein” could be found, other than he is an alleged certified homeopath and herbalist, and has owned a company since 1997 under the name of “Natural Life Foods Corporation”.
He also claims to have allegedly formulated over 600 products, but this too could not be verified.
So how did NewULife come to be? The rumor is that some top-earning ex Quivana reps out of Rhode Island approached Alexy in the fall of 2017 and convinced him to start an MLM company with his HGH Gel (now “Somaderm”) product.
Mind you, Alexy has no prior experience running an MLM company that I could find. And, as they say, “The rest is history”.
Fast forward to today, they are currently back-ordered and some people have been waiting 8 weeks for their product, yet their credit cards were still charged by the company in advance, knowing no inventory was available, and after putting a notice on their site that “credit cards wouldn’t be charged until the product shipped”.
They also only offer a 30 day guarantee, when other homeopathic HGH products offer 60 – 90 days (because that’s how long it takes to generally “feel” something”, so 30 days is a joke).
They charge $140 per month (distributor price) per Gel ($149 – $169 for customers), when other FDA registered homeopathic HGH products sell for under $90. Lastly, supposedly the Gel has been sold for 14 years online and at a few boutique shops in Northern California, yet not ONE online review from an actual customer can be found on it – NOT ONE review in 14 years!!!
You’d think that a product with so many alleged “fountain of youth” type benefits would be plastered all over TV ads, newspapers, health magazines, etc., or at the very least, in major chain stores like Walmart, Target, etc.!
And please, no one insult my intelligence by telling me that Alexy would turn down a possible multi-million dollar deal with Walmart to instead choose to sell his Gel via MLM!!
Speaking of which, until recently, he (Alexy) was still selling the Gel under his other company by the name of Strike First Nutrition, which sometimes offered 30% off coupons, making the real price closer to $100 per bottle. (Guess he needed to mark it up to $140 to pay out MLM commissions.)
I heard that NewULife grew to over 15,000 reps since December of 2017, and because they are not currently taking in new orders for another 60-90 days, they are allowing distributors to “position” themselves in the binary for a $59.95 distributor fee (which is non-commissionable by the way) until product is available for shipment again. (I wonder how the FTC and AG will like that? Sounds like a classic “Pyramid” to me!)
This is supposedly due to fact that they are changing manufacturers; but I heard through the grapevine that the real culprit may be that a “rumored” million dollars is “frozen” in their merchant account (which would explain why they can only process the $59.95 via echeck, last I heard).
One of the big selling points is that Somaderm (formerly “HGH Gel” as of last month) is FDA registered. What they don’t tell you is that FDA registration doesn’t have the same strict requirements as FDA approval.
In fact, if you look up their NDC # (61877-0005-1), you will read:
Therefore, many of their uninformed customers and distributors joined thinking they had access to the first FDA “Approved” product in MLM!
The other big selling point is the reps that were showing checks of them making $5,000 – $30,000 per week after only 3 months in the business!
Naturally, new reps looked at the big money potential by convincing their prospects to shell out $899 for the big pack of 8 bottles of Somaderm.
Those same top earning reps are now desperately trying to stop all the flooding that is occurring due to their downlines jumping ship!
Combine all these issues with poor customer service that’s not returning calls or emails for days or weeks because they are inundated and understaffed, product orders that they cannot keep up with, cheap back-office software with limitations, a compensation plan that requires 1,000 points in binary volume to earn a $40 cycle check (definitely not a little guy/gal friendly plan), no way for someone to simply sell the product without first buying a business pack for at least $199 (which may be illegal in some states), a $700 or $1,500 car bonus that pays you HALF if you don’t use it for a car payment (where does the other half go if you genuinely earned it? You guessed it — company greed!), no legal team in place, no real management team in place (a one-man operation with no prior MLM ownership experience), a product that is overpriced by $40 – $50, a product that contains pork & cow glands (not knowing if the food fed to these animals was non-GMO), a product with no verifiable science, human clinical trials or studies, a product with its main ingredient (synthetic HGH) being very controversial, and it spells a recipe for disaster from what I’m hearing.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they finally “crack” under the mounting pressure of growing faster than their current infrastructure will allow, sell to a larger more established MLM company, or simply close down and go back to retail…all in the next 60 days or so.
I’ve seen this happen before, even with more well financed start ups. MLM is not the business model for every new company to venture into.
And from what I’m hearing, NewULife is starting to become a sinking ship of credit card disputes (aka “chargebacks”) and negative rumors circulating on the internet.
There biggest blunder was most likely processing credit cards when no product was available for shipment, under the guise of a “pre-order”. Makes the company seem as though it had no money, and used pre-orders as a way to fund the manufacturing. But time will tell how it all turns out.
Like I said earlier, I’m glad I DID NOT join this one!
This guy seems to know what he’s talking about (fast forward to [4:50]):
facebook.com/victor.black.muscleandiron/videos/pcb.2090844821187994/2090844284521381/?type=3&theater
Here is a letter from the owner of New U Life. It was sent to all distributors on Friday May 26, 2018.
Thanks, Oz, for the link to that video. Yes, that fellow seems to know what he’s talking about.
Craig K’s post is amazing. I’d like to see if any NewULife people will have the balls to counter anything that Craig wrote. (How is it that NewULife can charge people’s credit cards, and not ship anything? Isn’t that against the law?)
That pathetic letter that Bill posted, the one Alexy Goldstein sent out to the NewULife distributors, is a prime example of a company owner desperately trying to hold it together.
Goldstein’s letter is like pouring two pounds of sugar into a gallon of the already heavily-sweetened Kool-Aid that’s being poured down the throats of the NewULife distributors (at least the ones that are stupid enough to keep hanging on).
To Bill, I say this – don’t post Goldstein’s POS letter as a counter to Oz’s review and all the comments on this page. Come back with facts, if you have any.
To all NewULIfe distributors, I say this – put on your life jacket and jump overboard! Then swim ashore and find another company to join.
Alexy Goldstein:
That’s it!
Of course it is, and if they sue NewULife, the court will order NewULife to return the money.
Or they can request a chargeback from their card issuer. But there’s no law that says the customer has to.
I’m getting hit up about this over and over and over. A LOT of people are believing the BS. The surgeon on their audio gives it a full endorsement, although he claims his HGH level on his blood test is ZERO. And that’s PROOF it works!
WTF? There is NO HGH in the stuff and they market it as if it (illegally as HGH is a drug) has the same benefits as injecting HGH.
Could there be a bigger scam?
I was added to a secret FB group by a friend, who thought that I’d join this company after seeing all the “testimonials (and FYI, this friend is on her 4th MLM company in (2) years).
What blows me away are the claims that are being made – how the Hell hasn’t this company been shut down? I’ve been in the fitness industry for 27 years, and I know HGH very well (I’m not a doctor, I just play one on TV), and even the real stuff doesn’t work as fast as this stuff supposedly does.
I emailed the company for the test results that they have for this product, and imagine that – no response.
It’s crap like this that doesn’t help the industry (and oh boy, is there a lot of crap out there).
Same company’s other product:
strikefirstnutrition.com/product/nightcrawler-capsules/
ANY nutritional product can obtain a NDC number, so the claim is just paperwork.
This HGH gel works. I lost 5lbs, my skin has shine to it and my hot flashes are gone. This is just a start. I can’t wait for more results.
Bought 3 bottles May 1st still no product. I guess it don’t work if you never get the product.
Hmmmmmm…
They just sent out a notice on FB the timeline for shipments & Jackie you should be getting yours.
I ordered mine on April 16 & got it June 1st after calling the company. I knew when I ordered that it was on backorder.
They also said orders would NOT be charged till shipped.
It does work. Some people it takes longer to notice anything.
My complexion is shinier. My female issues are improving. My husbands is also, after having issues with ED. So who can lie about that?
My hip is better. I have two replaced knees, but still had ache issues with pain, achiness around them. I am noticing a difference.
Also noticed nails growing and not breaking. I am not a distributor.
When the FDA or the FDA starts receiving complaints about illegal medical claims, they’ll investigate the company.
The company will do a half-assed job telling distributors to not make claims (“I canceled my appointment for an epidural, I no longer need it”, and “My husband no longer has ED” are illegal medical claims, even if they’re true!), but the distributors will always make claims. How else can they sell it???
The FDA will revoke the NDC code and the company will fade into obscurity.
Oh. Did I mention there are several other companies that are in the process of formulating “homeopathic hgh gels?
Better get it while you can, SomaDolts.
I have to say I was very skeptical about a homeopathic HGH gel since I have tried HGH injections and Semorelin which both took at least a month before i saw results.
My wife and I have been taking it for 3 weeks and this is way beyond placebo.
My blood pressure has been around 140/100 for 6 years and I have taken my bp over the last 3 days and I had an average BP around 120/80. Our energy levels and sleep are better than they have been in years.
I totally understand why people are bashing the product but it works and maybe you should actually try it for a month before you make a comment about a product you have never tried.
I don’t care what people say about the “science”, all I know is that the product works!!
I wouldn’t believe it if I didn’t experience it myself. Maybe they are forgetting to dilute it 30X. lol
But at what cost to your body? If it did work on your body, then obviously some sort of chemical entered your body.
It’s not homeopathic as it claimed. Remember, homeopathic med is water. What exactly did you apply/ingest/absorb?
Ordered on May 3rd… Have not received the product???????
I signed on as a distributor in April after three coworkers told me about the amazing results they were having.
One has fibromyalgia and chronic back pain and stated she had almost complete relief. Another stated that because of the gel, she was able to stop seven other supplements and products she was using for anti-aging. Another reported improved cognition, sleep, and memory.
The testimonials on the secret Facebook group were amazing. I only signed on because people I personally know and trust felt that it was really making a difference for them.
I finally received my first shipment one month ago. I am in perimenopause and I have chronic pain due to arthritis. I have thinning hair that I hoped would also be helped.
One month in and my joint pain is much worse. My hair loss has increased and my skin does not look good at all. No improvements to sleep either.
The only real change I noticed is a return of my period (that I could have lived without).
I’m a yogi and this gel went against everything in my teachings about living in harmony with nature and the seasons of life.
I truly believe that it’s snake oil and any positive changes people have reported are solely due to the placebo effect – and possibly positive lifestyle changes they made while on the gel. (For example, they recommend discontinuing alcohol consumption as it supposedly inhibits some of the benefits).
I feel more confident embracing Ayurvedic therapies which at least have historical support for their effectiveness, and where at least I’m not putting possible damaging synthetics into my body.
As far as transdermal products being absorbed into your system… yes, this really does work. However, the product has to be something that actually has an active constituent.
More people are telling me about the BIG money to be made here. People it’s WATER. There is NO HGH in this. Not a drop, not a molecule, not a single atom.
So to believe the product claims, of which there are many, you must believe in water memory, period.
You must believe that once a little bit of HGH was in a vial of water the properties of the HGH and the biochemical results somehow continue to be passed along through dilution after dilution until it is beyond impossible for any of the HGH to be present at all, yet the benefits are still there because the water touched it at one time.
Do you believe this? If not how can you promote this at over a hundred dollars a bottle?
You are selling pure water with a supposed memory of HGH, chemically from a galaxy far, far away.
The person who introduced me to this is a nationally known anti-aging doctor. He was very sceptical about the benefits of “micro-dosing” but unlike the naysayers he decided to try the product.
He was shocked when 6 weeks later he weighed what he hasn’t weighed in 30 years. Keep in mind as an anti-aging MD he has access to every manner of hormone replacement, stem cell therapy etc etc.
Personally in the 24 years Ive been in natural health Ive seen products with “great science” hardly work at all and other products that really didn’t make sense be stunningly effective.
In the last week of putting people on product it is exceeding eveyone’s expectations.
Name or bullshit.
Call the company. They were out of stock & relaunching in Aug.
Oz please.
I dare Steven to name any person that would be titled as “a nationally known anti-aging doctor” while not being a con-artist.
The whole title is a pseudo-health science mumbojumbo.
lmao. there is no such thing.
Have received the product, using it today day 3.
I do not care about comp plans. If the product works, the company delivers, then comp plans become important. To me anyway!
Have tried networking over the years, most companies are bull pop!
I have noticed that the companies that survive seem to be product driven.
Time will tell.
Have you tried this product yet? I’m just curious because I’ve been seeing it and was considering it…but I’d rather take info from someone who has tried it already.
He’s probably talking about Dr. Sabido. I listened to his call and what I don’t get is he says it didn’t raise his HGH which proves how safe it is.
Question: If it didn’t raise his HGH doesn’t that mean it doesn’t work? Actually it would have to raise the IGF-1 to show it works. Do they have any proof it does that?
Here is a link to that recording: forexjoe.com/1/1.mp3
What do you mean by “then comp plans become important”?
Oh, don’t be ridiculous. You need viable products AND a legal comp plan for a company to be legal. FHTM sold legit products, but its comp plan was a pyramid scheme, and it was prosecuted to extinction as such.
I feel if the product does not work, compensation plans do not matter. Compensation plans are important if you have a quality product and a quality company, then compensation is important.
To many companies talk compensation as being a big plus, well if the product is no good, do not waist your time.
But how do you know the product is good? Is there lab tests? Field trials with large datasets?
Or is it mostly one guy’s word and a bunch of unverifiable (with occasional personal stories) of testimonials, none of which can be scientifically validated?
@Peter
That’s not how MLM regulation works.
If you like the product and the comp plan is good, will you sign up?
Yes, if you have a quality company and product, compensation is important.
Over the years I have had no interest in companys, if I did not like the product.
An observation, most companies crash and burn, the only companies that I know of that are still in business are product companies.
BTW I am on day five of my trial, I am using Somaderm.
With all the health claims being made by distributors I hope they have their paperwork in order as FDA/FTC watches this kind of stuff.
There’s tons of testimonials on Facebook and elsewhere. Who knows – maybe the stuff really DOES work. That’s not the point I’m making.
The point is that it is illegal for an unlicensed medical professional to make any statement that using ANY product led to the resolution of ANY disease.
Without testimonials it’s impossible for distributors to sell this product. So they’ll continue to try to skirt the law and be semi-compliant, but once agents of the FTC and the FDA start to attend their meetings undercover, they will be served with cease-and-desist letters.
Next, their vaunted NDC code will be revoked and people will start to leave the company. This will lead to distributors accusing the FDA of being in league with “big pharma”.
It’s all very predictable.
The problem is that advertising does a great job at pulling the wool over people’s eyes.
Flashy ads and fake “testimonials” lure people in, but those who take the time to do the research can make the right decision and get a treatment that really works.
hghinjections.com/hgh-injections-vs-cream/
michaelhcohen.com/2017/01/avoid-common-fda-mistakes-marketing-health-products/
Assuming the product works, which is very debatable to me, the health claims made by marketers are big trouble here.
The company is actually responsible for the health and income claims made by individual MLM’ers. Look what happened to Vemma.
I can see this having a lot of people jump in, which will then draw FDA/FTC scrutiny, and since they’re equating the results of their stuff with an actual drug available only by prescription, I can see this getting shut down.
Ron, this is even more crazy than HGH cream. I think you’re talking about HGH precursors, which are at least delivering something that COULD, MAYBE, PERHAPS do something to boost HGH.
The NewULife stuff is actually WATER. NO HGH, NO PRECURSOR…NOTHING! It’s so diluted that it would be like 1 drop of water in 50 Pacific oceans or maybe even more dilute than that.
So, unless you buy into the homeopathic concept called water memory, unless that works, this stuff is nothing but really expensive water in a transdermal delivery system.
I am not a distributor (yet) but was given a bottle a month ago. For all of you saying it can’t work and won’t work, I am literally sitting here laughing.
This is without a doubt the most impressive product I have ever used, MLM or not.
Why do you say that?
Yes Ken of course it is!
@markie Because results don’t lie. Instead of you slinging your dribble about how the product is useless, why don’t you grow a set and try it for a month or two before “educating” us all.
Amway has decent laundry soap, but it is the act of multi-level marketing that is the problem. Whether or not the product works is moot.
Having said that, because MLMing is flawed, you will usually get a totally bogus, inferior, or an over priced comparison as the product.. The founders know all too well it’s all about recruiting and only use the product to mask the scheme.
Just because MLMs fly under the radar, like Amway and Mary Kay, doesn’t mean they are not going to suck you dry unless you are willing to lie to recruit – because very few make money working the plan. Proven! But, people won’t join/buy without the lure of money.
Catch 22 and a big fat lie. Don’t be a shyster.
@Ken. ‘cos that would be putting our hard earned money in the hands of scammers.
Why don’t they “grow a pair” and offer 2 months samples for free. If it’s that good we would buy it.
@John. ‘cos they have a 93% reorder rate and are having enough trouble keeping up with paying customers. I guess you just call everyone a scammer unless they send you free stuff huh?
But if you really want “free” bottles (Ozedit: request for personal information removed)
So Ken, you didn’t answer my question. Why did you say it’s the most impressive product and results don’t lie. What results?
Flinging an insult at me instead of addressing my facts doesn’t look too good for you.
Empirical evidence of supposed re-order rates truly doesn’t mean anything.
First, have you been provided evidence of that? Even so I’ve seen enough to know that people in MLM will buy literally anything for awhile if they think they can make money.
The laundry disc comes to mind. People were killing it for several months and they couldn’t keep up with the orders.
Then people realized their clothes weren’t getting clean and it wasn’t some magic in the plastic disc but was in fact blue-colored water. Yet they had some crazy ordering rate for several months.
If this product was so miraculous why did Alex have to raise the price and bring it to MLM? It should have created such a buzz in the scientific and public world that it should be front-page news.
But even so, as I look at the label there is a TON of other stuff in there that may or may not have benefit, although the label says they’re “Inactive Ingredients” whatever that means; all that stuff is simply the transport system?
My understanding of this is it’s the Aloe Vera that is the transport system. Labeling the other ingredients as “Inactive” may be a deflection of the truth.
Perhaps ALL the benefits are from that part and none from the (not-present) HGH.
So perhaps people who are vitamin E deficient are deriving something. Green tea and aloe are good. Licorice is good. Stuff like that. But as I’ve said undisputedly there is absolutely NO HGH in the product, ZERO.
How much are you paying for this? Way more than just taking microscopic amounts of the other, non-HGH ingredients.
I’m not saying it’s harmful but again there’s no HGH in it so go ahead and pay a ton of money for “homeopathic” HGH and see if it’s worth it to you.
Dispute me on these facts, Ken. No need to fling insults. I have a set, thanks for your concern.
The product includes Somatropin, which is the same synthetic HGH you get via prescription and injection. It is the highest amount allowed without a prescription.
All I know is it works, and I really don’t care what “specific” components of it cause it to work.
Also, one of the very few side affects of synthetic HGH is carpal tunnel, which I have now (and is the only negative I have experienced).
What I have experienced in just over 4 weeks with no changes to diet or exercise (basically no exercise):
– lost 1.5″ off my waist
– 3 of 4 chronic pain issues gone (tennis elbow in both arms, left hip pain, right shoulder pain)
– My 4th chronic pain is in my neck and it is not gone but improved.
– Sleep and energy like I have not had since I was in my teens and 20s. Before the gel I struggled to get up at 6:30 only after hitting snooze a few times. 2 weeks after starting I am waking up at 5 or earlier and ready to start my day, no “crash” mid afternoon.
– Finger nails and toe nails growing faster.
– Hair is getting thicker and growing faster. Not noticing any of the gray reversing at this point.
– My vision is improved… things are more vibrant and I can see my phone without holding it an arm’s length away.
All that being said, I do not do MLM for my job. I only came across this site when doing some research prior to deciding to sign up as a distributor.
I decided to try the product because A) my buddy wouldn’t leave me alone and B) he gave me it for free and told me if I didn’t see results I would have to pay him. I was a huge skeptic and now a huge believer.
As a distributor a bottle costs $140. It should be triple that based on my experience. Bottle lasts anywhere between 1-2 months depending on what amount works for each person daily.
That doesn’t match the homeopathic 30 times diluted product people talk here about. (See comment #17)
Somatropin does not pass through skin nor is absorbed by it, as I understand it. It has to be injected. So… more blatherskite, Ken?
Bioactivity of transdermally delivered hGH is verified by measuring IGF-I levels.
Has anyone pre- and post-tested their IGF levels?
Has the MLM company provided anything objective besides Distributor subjective responses?
Same owners other product:
strikefirstnutrition.com/product/nightcrawler-capsules/
Could mucuna pruruiens be generating the positive results?
nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM197012242832602
Wait. Since you like the product, are you saying you’re not going to buy it retail from your buddy and support his business?…………..ROTFL
Anyone notice that Ken completely ignored my comment #95. They always do!
@Markie
I was reading the beginning of your post and the laundry discs filled with plain water came to my mind too. And then you mentioned it. Too funny!
“My clothes smell like rain” Hahahaha!
Even though it’s not about the product with MLMing, I still love poking fun.
@Char, apparently you don’t understand what MLMs are built on. Re your post 95, you didn’t ask me anything, you just spouted more nonsense, not sure what you are looking for.
Honestly folks, the product works, I know 5 other people that are having very positive results. You can give every reason there is why it won’t but you would be wrong. I do find it funny that you are so negative on MLMs yet you spend time commenting and reviewing an MLM watchdog’s site.
On the other hand, it’s entirely possible for someone to be pro HONEST MLMers and anti snake oil salesman and post here.
There’s a very good reason the medical profession demands peer reviewed studies before it will prescribe a product, Ken, and that reason is people like you with your anecdotal evidence and dismissive and superior attitude.
@little round man I was responding to Char.
You all need hobbies instead of bashing products you haven’t tried and know nothing about.
Best of luck to you all, you certainly sound like you need it.
To summarize: NewULife’s HGH Gel is backed only by selective anecdotal evidence from those marketing it.
There has been no specific research into the formulation or scientific studies conducted to verify any of the claims made.
As Ken has demonstrated above, NewULife affiliates don’t like being called out on this and will readily spit the dummy.
Thanks Ken, but I won’t need luck, I just bought some NewULife, which contains fairy dust and unicorn DNA as well as HGH.
I can’t speak for others using their products or any scientific testing, but I have been able to fly for short distances since I started taking it.
Could it be the longer toenails, longer airmpit hair or the new wings I’ve grown? Heck I don’t know, but this stuff works!
Fantastic results Ken!
If you like the results and your friends do, by all means buy it for the rest of your lives.
If, however, you are MARKETING it then you and the company must tell the TRUTH, otherwise you’re misleading, lying, and possibly (probably) committing FRAUD.
One thing for sure is any results you may have are NOT due to somatropin. You did say something absolutely true.
This stuff contains the highest amount of somatropin legal to sell by without prescription, because that amount is precisely ZERO.
Somatropin (HGH) is a PRESCRIPTION DRUG and you cannot prescribe it unless you are a medical doctor. Alex CANNOT SELL IT IF IT HAS ANY HGH IN IT AS WELL.
I’ve had numerous hyperventiling networkers contact me about this because there are people making a lot of money and, “you can get HGH without a prescription”.
The people are making a lot of money because they are selling a BS story that CANNOT be true.
There is NO HGH, NO SOMATROPIN…zero, zip, nada, in that stuff.
Until you get that through your skull you’ll continue to mislead and defraud people. The website makes all these claims about HGH…FRAUD!
By the way this product also has the highest amount of cocaine you can sell legally which is zero as well.
Also the highest amount of Lyrica, Insulin, Albuterol and every other drug available only through a prescription… which is ZERO, not a MOLECULE of any of those. Get the picture?
So everyone is simply parroting what they are being told by the marketers and the owner of the company, as we can tell by your statements as well as those everyone is now posting all over the internet.
Do you think there are not HUGE red flags being thrown up at the FDA and FTC when you guys are saying you’re selling some kind of formulation of a prescription drug without a prescription?
Are they going to say oh no problem that’s cool it’s an MLM? Or will they come down HARD like they have on other companies which, in my opinion, have not made such outrageous claims as this one?
So as I said, buy it if you like it but you’re not getting any somatropin. Do not LIE to people saying they’re getting a “microdose”, a “little bit”, “the highest amount you can get legally without a prescription”… don’t tell lies. There is ZERO.
If you start marketing the stuff be aware that there are a lot of red flags about getting shut down due to these claims and other things. You are now forewarned about it.
There’s no need to “bash” anything.
The product is either illegal or doesn’t contain somatropin, end of.
@Ken I have tried NewULife. I try NewULife several times a day, every time I use handwash to soap my hands. It’s the exact same thing, only minus the scent ingredients in the soap.
This is not me being a sceptic, this is NewULife’s own description of their own product, i.e. that it is a homeopathic solution and therefore contains absolutely nothing except gel.
I can confirm that it does absolutely nothing to improve stamina, improve sleep, cure cancer etc etc.
Everyone who uses handwash has tried NewULife’s product (with some added ingredients to make it smell nice). You cannot dispute this unless you are accusing NewULife of being liars and misrepresenting their product.
Okay, but I did ask one in #103.
Please explain your response and why you think I don’t understand MLMs.
That’s great actually. Will they potentially be under you if you sign up? Are they upline? Or something else? Just asking.
@Char – I told my buddy I would continue as a customer but he asked me to instead sign up as a distributor (under him). So I did.
Unfortunately the other 5 people are not in my up or down line… people that I noticed were part of a Facebook group that I knew that were already involved.
@Malthusian – Sorry it didn’t work for you, you are in a very small minority of people who didn’t experience results. Did you stay on it for the full bottle?
@Markie and Chuck Nasty – You are wrong. The product includes Somatropin. Much like a product you have all heard of – Ibuprofen – you can buy it over the counter at one dose but to get Ibuprofen 800 you need a prescription.
No different here, the dose is below that of which is required for a script. Not sure why that is too complicated for you.
I have really enjoyed our chats on this thread but back to my day job so please expect delayed responses. Also heading out of the country for a few days later in the week.
Are your employers aware you are running around the Internet accusing them of being liars?
The product is described by your employers as a homeopathic solution of somatropin which means that at the point of sale it contains no somatropin whatsoever. This is not coming from me, this is what NewULife claims.
Why do you think they are lying and are not properly preparing it according to the homeopathic process?
Not sure what my employer has to do with this…I work for a $10B technology company. I don’t work for NewULife.
They are very clear that the gel contains a 30x diluted amount of Somatropin. It is very clear including on the bottle.
Yes, that is an extremely small amount, but it is more than my body creates on it’s own and is enough to provide results for me.
If it is something else within the gel that is the reason for my results so be it, I really don’t care, it works for me. Frankly it has changed my life when I compare where I was prior to and now.
I don’t expect you to believe me because you don’t know me so it is what it is.
HEY KEN….. FDA REGISTERED MY BUTT.
hXXps://ndclist.com/ndc/61877-0005/package/61877-0005-1#
@Ken
I do believe you about how it makes you feel. (No sarcasm)
Don’t you think this is odd though?
Why turn your willing customer (you) into competition? What does he know, that you don’t? Have you asked him how many repeat retail customers he has?
You obviously don’t count as one and would be a poor example.
Char, re your question about being a customer vs a distributor… my buddy gets more benefit out of me signing up under him and building my own downline than he would if I just bought product from him.
Just like most MLMs are structured. Does that make sense? Essentially a “distributor” is also a “customer.”
Ken I don’t mean to be picking on you specifically but you are either playing dumb or simply not paying attention, or lying.
You continue to say the product contains Somatropin. Either it does or it doesn’t.
If it DOES it’s an illegal prescription and it’s a FELONY to sell it at ANY amount. Don’t give us BS that it’s like Advil.
Do you just make stuff up or is this what NewULife is telling people to say when the subject is brought up?
If it DOESN’T then you’re basing the Somatropin/HGH supposed benefits on a principle of “Water Memory” which is TOTAL BS and dare I say Quackery.
Want to know how absolutely IMPOSSIBLE it is to have ANY Somatropin in that pump bottle of yours? It says on the label, and Alex himself has said, that it is a 30X (AKA 30C) dilution. What does that mean?
A 30X dilution means that the original substance has been diluted 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times.
Assuming that a cubic centimeter of water contains 15 drops, this number is greater than the number of drops of water that would fill a container more than 50 times the size of the Earth.
Robert L. Park, PhD., a prominent physicist who is executive director of The American Physical Society, has noted that since the least amount of a substance in a solution is one molecule, a 30C solution would have to have at least one molecule of the original substance dissolved in a minimum of 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 molecules of water.
This would require a container more than 30,000,000,000 times the size of the Earth.
Uh, your pump bottle is not 30 billion times the size of the earth is it? And that would be just to get ONE MOLECULE of Somatropin.
So if you, or anyone associated with NewULife, continue to say there is some, any, a tiny amount, a microdose, or anything else they are flat out LYING.
Lying to their friends about this stuff. Lying to their marketers, distributors, Facebook friends, LYING pure and simple and indisputable.
Don’t be a darn fool or an ostrich. Look it up before you have people pay for something. You’re an accessory to a fraud if it’s a phony as I believe it is.
You’re free to take this…go ahead. People can drink horse urine if they want. But don’t lie to other people to get them to pay their money under false pretenses.
Markie, no worries, I am enjoy all this. I guess all I can do is point you to the FDA national drug code directory where Somaderm is listed.
accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cder/ndc/dsp_searchresult.cfm
Choose “NDC Code” from the drop down, then enter “61877-0005-1” in the field below, and hit “Search.”
Even the FDA acknowledges the product includes Somatropin. So I guess they must be lying too.
I couldn’t agree more.
Any concerns about the FTC reading this thread?
FWIW, I don’t think you are trying to be deceptive with your answers at all. You’re being honest in what you believe and think you know.
No offense Ken, but you are the perfect willing victim.
If this is what being a victim is then I should try it more often. My experience has been nothing short of mind blowing. No concerns about the FTC (or did you mean FDA)? They know about this product it is registered with them.
I am not new to MLMs. I have been involved with Isagenix for years. I love and believe in Isagenix’s products. I never built much of a business because I don’t really need the residual income.
I really don’t get most of the posters on this thread. You spend way too much time being negative about something you have nothing to do with.
Almost feels like you are threatened by the product because it might impact whatever MLMs you all are involved in.
Ahhh, the NDC code PROVES it has Somatropin, eh Ken? Even though the bottle is not 30 billion times the size of the earth, right?
I’ve not disputed that there WAS Somatropin, diluted a ZiLLION, ZILLION times, at one point. There probably was a little.
Can you imagine the profit margin on this stuff? Start with a little Somatropin and then dilute it until there’s ZERO molecules left in the water, and then put that in with the other stuff in the gel.
Again there’s NO HGH actually in the product.
An NDC code is simply a BARCODE. It’s what the company claims is in the product. The FDA didn’t test it! Did you not look up what an NDC code is?
What’ funny is if you search NDC code and put in 61877-0005-1 at accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cder/ndc/index.cfm it says, “Unapproved Homeopathic”.
THAT’S proof?
And yes I meant BOTH FDA and FTC. I believe they will have major problems with this product IMO.
Violations all over the place and I know what I’m talking about, both from the company side, their website and label, as well as the health and income claims being made by distributors.
The comp plan also is trouble and I see a Vemma problem here as well.
I’m posting this because people who are being told, like I was, “Now you can get HGH without a prescription and without getting shots”.
That is NOT TRUE and DON’T FALL FOR IT.
@Markie, you have the right to make your own choices and have your own beliefs, flawed or not.
Thanks for the advise. I will continue using a product that is helping thousands of people already and growing virally – because it works.
Pay attention.
FDA says the product has Somatropin as an ingredient. That is 100% accurate and matches to the production process as described here. Too bad that 0% of that ingredient makes it to the final product.
(And yes it also says it is unapproved homeopathic.)
But don’t LIE and tell people what I was told which was,
Them: “Hey Markie, you want to have all the anti-aging benefits of HGH don’t you?”
Me:”Absolutely. I know HGH can have some great benefits but it’s expensive and you have to get shots in the butt on a regular basis”.
Them:”Now you can get HGH without a prescription and without getting shots!”
Me: “What? How is that possible?”
Them: “This FDA approved gel has the highest amount of HGH you can get without a prescription and you simply put it on your forearm and it’s absorbed through the skin”
Me: “Wow! Where do I get information about this?”
Them: “I’ll send you the company website and a recording with an anti-aging MD who totally validates it”.
Me: “Great! Send it over”
This is how it’s going down all over the place.
There is NO HGH IN THE PRODUCT AT ALL! I’ve proven that and Alex has said it’s a 30C (30X) dilution and that’s what’s on the bottle.
As I said the bottle would have to be 30 BILLION times the size of the earth to have ONE MOLECULE OF HGH. That’s a SCIENTIFIC FACT.
So…yes I’m free to buy or not buy and I won’t buy.
YOU on the other hand, have a responsibility to tell the TRUTH, not lie, and not misrepresent, as do ALL NewULife distributors do as well.
They’re NOT! That’s the problem!
Pay attention. The product works. If you don’t believe in it then don’t use it. I really don’t care.
It works for me, extremely well at that. And I have one of the well documented potential side affects of Somatropin.
Ken…YOU pay attention and stop being an ostrich.
Are you or are you not going to tell people there is Somatropin in this stuff?
I’d say you don’t care. There’s money to be made here and you’re going to ignore the facts.
I wonder what side-effect you’re suffering from. Here’s the list:
Call your doctor at once if you have any of these serious side effects:
I’d say if you have any of these stop taking that crap! There’s something in the laundry list of other ingredients, of which there are MANY that is harmful to you.
Well this list can be due to…let’s say, MANY other causes…yet you’d attribute it to the Somatropin? Come on! A STRETCH to say the least.
By the way the placebo effect is very strong and that’s a proven, scientific fact related to homeopathy and may explain why people say they’re doing better.
It’s NOT from Somatropin… there’s ZERO in the bottle!
Markie, ANY person that uses the words “FDA approved” is not telling the truth, I 100% agree with you on that.
That should not be happening. It is merely FDA Registered. That’s all.
Your assessment about there being no Somatropin in the product is wrong, so maybe you should stop lying as well. You don’t understand homeopathy and clearly have no interest in educating yourself.
Dilution is potency, read up on it. You’re like an ignorant child.
I am not here to convince you and you are not convincing me otherwise, so have a wonderful life. Mine has changed dramatically since take Somaderm and I could not be happier about it.
Markie, – carpal tunnel. That’s the only one. Well known side affect. That is easily fixed with ARP Wave (which you are probably going to tell me doesn’t work either).
Love,
Your favorite Ostrich
Nope. Definitely meant the F…T…C…
Not a chance. I don’t participate in and get others involved in product based pyramid schemes.
Doesn’t matter. Best of luck pyramid scheming Ken.
Ken,
I GUARANTEE you I have quite an understanding of homeopathy.
Here is what these diltions mean, from a HOMEOPATHIC website: homeopathycenter.org/homeopathy-today/what-potency-should-i-take-how-often
100:1 30 times is exactly what I posted before. It would take, based on MATH, a bottle 30 billion times the size of the earth to have a single HGH molecule.
That’s homeopathy. There is NO HGH in the product. That’s a fact.
If you tell people there is HGH in the product, as I’ve said many times, that’s a lie.
You CAN tell them the facts and they can believe in the concept of “water memory” and say the bottle has a water memory of HGH and somehow that’s going to have an HGH effect in your body if water memory works… THAT would be true. But that’s NOT what’s being said Ken.
Facts, not ignorance.
There a hundreds of homeopathic products that use 30x dilutions or even higher.
You can guarantee all you want, doesn’t mean a thing since you are just some person somewhere in the world who clearly has an agenda.
If you want to lie to push that agenda have at it buddy. You didn’t even get the ratio right. 100:1 is “C”, “X” is 10:1.
Your ignorance is embarrassing. Dilution is a core philosophy of homeopathy.
I am done responding to you as you are an idiot. Done with this post as well since all we do is go in circles.
I am sure there will be plenty of “See, Ken stopped responding because we got him” but I am telling you now I am done wasting my time. Peace out and start gellin’ you will be much better off for it.
THIS IS MY LAST POST ON THIS THREAD. BYE.
Some people just want to believe in miracle products bad enough, no explanation or analysis of truth or scientific studies will matter.
These are the lost people that this site won’t help unfortunately, and the perfect marks for scammers.
Who you going to believe? Ken or your lying eyes and ears?
You’re not even trying. There are people who convince themselves that they’re having a baby so hard that they present all of the symptoms, apart from an actual baby. What is this, Psychosomatic Amateur Hour?
You’re sitting there trying to convince us that you managed to get the same effects as somatropin from a chemically inactive hand gel because your wrist hurts a bit.
I’m glad to hear the actual Homeopaths agree with me.
Check this out: aahp.info/position-statements/homeopathic-human-growth-hormone-hgh/
It’s a FELONY if there were any HGH in it. In fact #3 above goes on:
Ken knows when he’s beat.
Anyway if you are interested take a look at James Randi’s TED talk from 2007 regarding Homeopathy called Homeopathy, quackery and fraud. About 11mins 20 secs for the Homeopathy part.
So there you go. The American Association of Homeopathic Pharmacists agree with me that if you’re selling, even a smidge, of HGH it’s a FELONY.
They’re totally distancing themselves from this bunk.
So who you gonna believe now? Alex who stands to make a fortune? NewULife distributors (including Ken) who want to make bucks selling crap?
Or the actual Association of Homeopathic Pharmacists who realize this is treading in DANGEROUS regulatory waters, as I’ve been saying.
Homeopathic remedies may have some value. I know people who swear by some of the formulas, for colds, sniffles, improved sleep, etc. Hey give it a try.
Generally they have some plant materials and natural stuff in a homeopathic formulation and maybe there’s a benefit.
But when you’re talking about a HORMONE you’ve crossed into a TOTALLY different realm, in terms of not only regulation (FDA and FTC), but also powerful impact potential on people.
The good thing about NewULife’s product is there’s NO HGH in it…it’s crap.
But they’re promoting it AS IF THERE WERE HGH IN IT and that’s FRAUDULENT and if there were it’s a FELONY.
Can’t have it both ways.
I’m aware of the difference between 30X and 30C is BTW. I’ve heard mention of NewU’s product being both.
I got out my magnifying glass and see it’s a 30x formula. Big deal. Once it’s been diluted to 24x (based on Avogadro’s Law…actual SCIENCE) it’s IMPOSSIBLE to have any HGH in it. It gets far more diluted than that.
Let’s use this as an example. Say your child is an insulin-dependent diabetic and needs insulin shots or their blood sugar level can get so high it can kill them.
So you go to Alex and he puts insulin in a “homeopathic” formula. Here’s how he’d do it:
Take a little syringe of insulin and squirt it into a bathtub full of water.
Pull out a syringe full of the water in the tub, and squirt that into a backyard-sized swimming pool full of water.
Pull out a syringe of that and squirt that into an Olympic-sized pool of water.
Let’s just stop there as it’s already ridiculous.
He’ll pull our a little syringe from the Olympic pool and mix it with the gel and then have your child put that on their forearm and low and behold they’ll get HIGHLY POTENT INSULIN into their system.
Are you saying that’s CRAZY? Why? Don’t you BELIEVE in homeopathy? But that’s what NewU people are saying about their product.
You’d never risk it with kid, you’re not crazy, but if you sell this Homeopathic HGH stuff it is way more diluted than that.
Simply replace HGH with the insulin in the example above and charge people $150+ for that stuff. Does THAT make any sense?
If you sell that stuff, knowing what you do now, hope you sleep well; I couldn’t.
Not correct. There are no plant materials or natural stuff in a homeopathic forumulation. The formula has been diluted until there is no plant material left whatsoever.
This is not the claim of a skeptic, this is what homeopathy means to homeopaths.
There is indeed a benefit to homeopathic medicine, it’s called the placebo effect. However the same benefit can be obtained much more cheaply and effectively through, for example, moderate exercise and physiotherapy.
Or through a drug which actually induces a chemical reaction which targets whatever is actually physically wrong with you, on top of which you will still get the placebo effect providing you believe the drug will work (a rational belief in this case).
The notion of “not an official homeopathic drug” makes me smile. You can have homeopathic whatever you want, there is no “official” about it.
If you take a bottle of homeopathic mandrake root solution you can turn it into a bottle of homeopathic HGH gel or a bottle of homeopathic rhino horn simply by taking the label off and putting a new one on it.
No fiddling about with somatropin or violating anti-poaching laws is necessary. Solutions of homeopathic mandrake root and homeopathic HGH gel and homeopathic rhino horn are all the exact same thing: water.
Absolutely anything can be a homeopathic ingredient simply because we can call a solution of water whatever we like.
It seems like every network marketer in the USA is jumping onto this deal; I’ve had numerous calls and people are name-dropping a lot of people.
Since there is ZERO HGH in it, yet the claims are being made as if there were, I wonder how long this will last, regulatory or otherwise.
I am hearing of some results people feel; it’s not from HGH that’s clear. There are other ingredients in it, although they’re labelled “Inactive Ingredients”, and that may explain any benefits IMO.
Expensive for just getting those other herbs and such.
Potentially the greatest MLM product of all time…… a homeopathic cure for gullibility. The sales pitch just writes itself.
They should have called those MLM laundry discs homeopathic!
I can’t remember, maybe they actually did.
Are they secretly adding in Stemtech? You know, the MLM that increases stem cells and gives you the same results as this stuff. And why not wash it down with some MLM exotic berry juice for double the benefit?
Makes one wonder why anyone is still sick – and not retired on residual, basking on a beach somewhere.
I have been on injectable growth hormone for years (Saizen, Serostim etc.) and I can personally tell it takes months for it to kick in and show major results. Just ask any athlete whose used it.
Also, it is measured by an IGF-1 blood test and has to be injected DAILY and subcutaneously on an empty stomach and you should not eat for an hour. Even testosterone injections do not REALLY KICK IN until into week three.
So, maybe this SOMADERM GEL is creating the placebo effect of the century or…. there is something else in it making it work.
But it is NOT somatropin. Because somatropin would have to be monitored carefully and personally, I do NOT believe the technology is available yet to deliver it via a gel and for such low cost.
Will be interesting to see how this plays out. But when the doctor on one of the webinars says it has no affect on IGF-1 readings that would seem to be red flag #1.
And when Mr. Goldstein claims the reorder rate is 90%, that is red flag #2. Heck, coffee does NOT even have a 90% reorder rate.
Somehow, I don’t think this is going to end well. ON the other hand, maybe an MLM with a god awful BINARY COMPENSATION PLAN has discovered the fountain of youth?
And as we’ve proven there is NO HGH in the product in the first place; it’s been diluted out of existence. So why the supposed results? Good question
I’ve been on the gel for 2 months now. I’m addition to increased muscle and joint pain, I’ve had the return of my monthly cycle with a vengeance after 6 months of perimenopause. I’ve also had increased breast growth.
The only positive result I can report is a decrease in brain fog and improved attention span. Not really work $150 per month and I’m a little concerned about the hormonal issues since breast cancer runs in my family.
My best friend used the gel for less than a month and her cycles went crazy. She had breast growth she didn’t want and crazy, heavy periods less than a month apart.
I don’t know what is in this gel, but I feel like whatever it is, if it does anything at all it is certainly not all good. I can think of better places to spend my money on wellness support.
What happened to the “nationally known anti-aging doctor”? (See comment #69)
I merely asked to name one person – any person – that would have the title and not be self appointed with one. Didn’t have to be the one he was talking about, just name ONE.
Comedy gold.
I suspect they illegally spiked it with prescription Sucrosa.
theonion.com/fda-approves-sale-of-prescription-placebo-1819567087
Placebo effect is powerful and of course these people REALLY WANT to have some results!
If a topically applied to the skin formulation has a stated effect on a distant part of the body (brain), therefore it is not described as a topical but rather a transdermal delivery system of a drug.
genscopharma.com/difference-topical-transdermal-medications/
It is very difficult to bring a large molecule through the skin barrier even with sophisticated transport chemicals. But there is NO HGH in this stuff anyway.
Placebo effect.
It is a common mistake to think that “placebo” means “fake” or “ineffective”. Placebos work. Outstandingly well. There is no better panacea than a positive attitude.
The problem is not that placebos don’t work, but that you don’t have to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars for a placebo.
Moderate exercise and physiotherapy will give you the same effect as a placebo, only more powerfully (because you know rationally that it has a real physical benefit). And it’s free.
Real drugs that target what is actually chemically wrong with you also have a placebo effect, for the same reason.
The product was introduced to me by a very close friend. She was definitely ALL-IN.
I wasn’t so sure so I did some research and decided against it because IF it really did work for the good – It could work for the bad too (ref comment # 146).
Now I believe it is harmless. I’m not a scientist or a doctor, just a savvy consumer. If it just seems “too good to be true” well.. you should know the rest.
What really got me was her lack of concern about the possible bad side affects of the product for me. What she needed was to sign somebody up NOW, and I didn’t do it.
They “brainwash ” their people and pressure them into getting in and signing up with the Autofill so the company has direct access to your bank account.
WTH people? This is a sham, a snake oil, it for the people who just NEED something to make them BELIEVE again. It’s so sad people are wasting their hard earned money this way.
I say invest $500 and add $150 month. Go back in one year, look at what you’ve saved and that ought to make you feel better than this gel.
Alex Goldstein
President and CEO
Strike First Nutrition.com
(Photo)
You be the judge…
strikefirstnutrition.com/executive-team/
Wa-Hey! Look here…
“THE ONLY FDA REGISTERED TRANSDERMAL TESTOSTERONE PRODUCT AVAILABLE, WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION!”
strikefirstnutrition.com/product/testall-gel/
$169.99 per 3.5oz pump bottle
(…But remember, this ISN’T about money. This is about HELPING PEOPLE!)
And more Dr. Alex Goldstein.
Ooooops.
I thought he was a doctor.
He’s not.
But here you go…
(Ozedit: marketing spam removed)
Listen… after watching these videos (and despite some of you finding him a little “shady”) I am going to order some “TESTALL GEL” for $169.99 because if you look at the ingredients it has NEW U LIFE SOMADERM INGREDIENTS….
….PLUS A TON OF OTHER STUFF!
And I want to try it.
I will keep you posted.
Thanks man!
Neil
If you want to try NewULife or Strike First Nutrition products, awesome. No need to use that as an excuse to post marketing spam.
Oz,
Post the videos as they are NOT marketing SPAM.
They were old video from 2012 and 2013 of Alex Goldstein.
TRULY: The tail of my post was a joke.
Post of the videos from Youtube.
It is important people see them ok?
After all, I am done.
Thank you.
Neil
I watched one of them for a bit. It was some corny 2012 interview with Goldstein to market Strike First products.
How is that not spam?
I guess you could call it that. But I don’t believe anyone here is going to BUY the stuff.
I think the videos allow your readers to make a character assessment from the video of him talking. Make sense?
Either way, love your site. Thank you.
My last post.
Because here’s how it will LIKELY end for New U Life and their Somaderm HGH Gel.
Just my prediction.
Since the (sometimes) the best way to predict the future is to first study the past:
LINK 1 (FDA letter to prior HGH product TransdTropin)
fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm352633.htm
LINK 2 (Statement of product discontinued and not sold anymore on site)
transd.com/discontinued.php
PS – Will be interesting to so how New U Life reps will argue this will NOT apply to New U Life and Somaderm HGH Gel.
I would like to thank Oz and all the folks responding with facts, figures, and science regarding the product.
A good friend has become a distributor and made some decent money over the past three months, and I was ready to sign up and “get on line” to wait for a batch of Somaderm Gel (formerly known as HGH Gel) and pay through the nose for the ‘right’ to do so.
I have learned so much reading through your expose and comments. So many of her customers (some of who I know personally) have been sharing rave reviews and results statements on the private Facebook groups, I was nearly convinced.
One of the the best responses I read here is ‘the plural of anecdote is not evidence’. So true! When I mentioned the dilution math to my friend, and said there is zero Somaderm in this gel, she said she believes it is the other ingredients, the botanicals, that are causing the results her friends and customers are seeing, so she stopped referencing the HGH.
I pointed out that the other ingredients are listed as Inactive ingredients, so how can that be?
Anyway – thank you again, you saved me a bunch of money and several ounces of frustration!
(Ozedit: Conspiracy derail attempt removed)
I am not saying the post above is one of them but the information is incorrect.
Where it says “A good friend has become a distributor and has made some decent money over the past three months”, New U Life has not paid ANY commissions over the past three months.
They have been on a product freeze as they grew their manufacturing capacity. The product was released on August 8th. and the money is flowing now 🙂
The friend has been taking orders since the beginning of the year, and several shipments have gone out before the latest round of inventory ‘sold out’.
He has been taking orders every month during the backlog. The commission income showed to me may be what his cut will be once those current orders ship.
I have no other screen names and am not interested in taking down this company. My only interest is in discovering the truth about the product and the company behind it, and sharing the truth so that others may make informed decisions.
Some modern MLM companies employ posting tactics designed to game Google listings and rankings, keeping positive and flattering posts up top and on the first page, forcing less flattering and critical posts to the second or third page (which is where I found this website’s New U Life listing) where statistically, most casual searchers won’t drill down to.
Any and all claims made regarding the efficacy of a transdermal gel and its supposed benefits should withstand scrutiny. Any reputable manufacturer marketing and selling such a gel should be unafraid of such scrutiny if the product is legitimate, and its benefits scientifically demonstrable and repeatable.
@Hype Averse
Are there any actual “botanicals” in the gel or are they subject to the same homeopathic treatment, i.e. there’s no botanicals in it at all? Genuine question.
Be cautious about trying to persuade your friend that NewULife is just handwash (which it is), as MLM-bots can take criticism of the product as criticism of them personally.
See botwatch.blog/2016/06/17/how-to-help-someone-in-an-mlm/
That’s a very good question, one that I asked. Since they are listed as “inactive ingredients”, they may not be homeopathic.
I could not get a straight answer. My friend did say that the botanicals are what are delivering the benefits his customers are experiencing – which led me to believe the botanicals were not homeopathic, i.e. diluted – which would make sense as to the reposted efficacy, especially from things like Ginko Biloba.
If the botanicals are also 30X dilutions, then the only explanation for the reported benefits would be the placebo effect.
Food for thought. “Making decent money” is not always reputable. Our brain just tends to default to a positive context when we hear that term.
Sorry – you are 100% correct. It’s all relative, isn’t it.
My friend does it part time, is averaging $1100 a month. Once the product starts shipping in earnest, he expects it to go up. The key question (for me) is, at $169 a bottle, will customers re-up? Those that themselves became distributors, will they keep buying product at $149 a bottle?
What happens if the FDA or FTC steps in? New U Life could become a victim of their own success.
BTW, read this from Dr. Steven Gundry today about drinking seltzer or carbonated water from plastic bottles or metal cans:
“These containers contain compounds called phytoestrogens (like BPA).
And it can throw off your natural hormone balance… which can lead to some serious health problems down the line.”
Speaking of food for thought, isn’t it likely that there are more phytotoestrogen molecules in Somaderm Gel leached from the plastic bottle than there are somatropin molecules left over from a 30X dilution?
Hmmm…
Yes, especially the former, but with an added twist. How many “stayed” non-affiliates and continued to buy the stuff retail – and didn’t join as a distributor.
But Ken already answered that for us:
I think we can all agree that acquiring money as a pyramid schemer is not what we should aspire to do. Unfortunately, some don’t even know they are doing it.
Then there’s that chance of being busted as you pointed out Hype. Busted by the FDA for false claims, and/or busted by the FTC for running a product based pyramid scheme. Flip a coin.
My key question is always:
If I’m going to run a pyramid scheme where the opportunity is clearly the focus, why bother with an expensive manufacturer, or waste a bonafide game changing product on it.
Found this “income disclaimer” on one of their recruitment sites, get on the gel dot com:
Their ALL CAPS, not mine. And if common sense were common, more people would have it.
This guy should also add:
THIS PRODUCT CONTAINS ZERO, ZIP, NADA ACTUAL HGH. ALSO THIS PRODUCT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED BY THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF HOMEOPATHIC PHARMACISTS AND THEY STATE THERE ARE NO ACCEPTED METHODS OF HOMEOPATHIC DELIVERY OF HGH.
THEY ALSO STATE IF THERE WERE ANY HGH PRESENT IT WOULD BE A FELONY TO MANUFACTURE AND/OR DISTRIBUTE THIS PRODUCT (SOMADERM).
YOUR RESULTS MAY VARY. NO ONE KNOWS HOW ANY INDIVIDUAL WILL REACT TO THIS FORMULA AS ALEX SIMPLY MADE IT UP AND WE HOPE A LOT OF YOU WILL BUY IT BEFORE THE FDA AND/OR FTC SHUTS THE COMPANY DOWN.
I have been using Somaderm for 2 months now. I am not a distributor, I am a customer.
The product does not contain Somatropin or HGH, it has been diluted to the point of non-existence. Which is the base theory of homeopathy.
In any case, I really don’t care because the results are astounding. I know 5 other people using the product and they have had results that range from good to outstanding.
There is no placebo effect here as some of the results are in no way imagined (hair, nails especially).
You all spend way too much time being negative and commenting on a product that you have never tried. I jumped on this site to see what I could find related to the business opportunity and felt compelled to comment due to all the negativity and people that don’t want the product to work… probably because you are missing the boat.
Enjoy your shakes and Herbalife crap. I am 55 and haven’t felt this good in 15 years. I haven’t changed anything in my diet or my exercise (pretty much no exercise besides walking a dog). This product has changed my life.
But you all can keep bitching and attacking and explaining why it doesn’t work…. have fun with that! Oh and get lives.
@ Peter Quinn, comment #80, just wanted to point out that you spelled “waste” wrong.
And FYI to you all-just to clarify a few things, it’s only $169 for a one time order. Autoship for customers and distributors is $149. You can also cancel at anytime.
It’s FDA registered, not approved. I’m pretty sure most OTC, homeopathic remedies are not “approved.” Also, everything we put in our bodies comes with a risk, including approved prescription drugs.
Oh….. and you don’t need to sign new distributors to get paid. You can make money buy retail sales ALONE.
Someone stated earlier that you couldn’t but you in fact can.
Solid logic. 9/10, IGN.
Most non-perscription products have not been approved
No need to insult us, we have lives, believe me.
I too know people who are showing results on the gel. They attribute it to the botanicals and the fact that they followed the directions, including avoiding alcohol while using the gel.
As you astutely point out, HGH is non-existent in this gel, so the results have to come from something besides simply placebo effect.
If you and your five friends are seeing results and are happy to pay $149 a month for purified water with aloe, gingko biloba and licorice root in it then by all means go to town.
You “believers” have not read the posts above carefully. You continue to say things that are not true.
Using hormones in a “homeopathic” manner is absolutely NOT homeopathy. Alex and the gang say that but it’s NOT TRUE. Homeopathic principles do NOT include these hormone-type therapy. That’s why the American Academy of Homeopathic Pharmacists (AAHP) have specifically disavowed any formula like this.
Look, you are free to spend your money on whatever you wish. Go ahead. But don’t TELL people that they are getting HGH because it’s NOT TRUE. The AAHP says it’s not true and they’re the grand poobahs of homeopathy.
Your benefits may be coming from other ingredients in the product. OK I can go with that. Look at the label and you’ll see a lot of other things in there; you can pay a lot for a little of that stuff if you want; free country.
The website makes ALL KINDS of claims for this product, and from what I can tell it’s all about HGH; again which is not in the product, not a speck, and it’s not an approved homeopathic remedy and I mean approved the the group that approves homeopathic remedies. In other words this is the definition of snake oil.
Experience has shown this kind of stuff is specifically targeted by both the FDA and FTC. BTW getting an FDA registration number is no big deal although Alex tries to convince you people that it is some kind of stamp of approval.
Don’t put all your eggs in this basket people. I’m telling you it will get shut down at some point.
And DON’T LIE to people and tell them they can now get HGH without a prescription with this stuff. That is a flat-out LIE and you are then a LIAR yourself if you are saying that.
I’m sure you all are aware of the benefits of epimedium (in Somaderm). Btw, you can get some for $19.95 on Amazon. As one reviewer of the cheaper Amazon product put it:
“This product works so well I can’t blieve it. However, I took the advice of a friend and used it transdermally, rather than taking it in juice or water. Seven to ten drops put on the back of a hand or on an inner thigh twice a day, and libido went high enough to keep a smile on my face all day. I mean, transdermal is the way to go – bypasses the liver and goes straight to, well, you know. . .I highly recommend this product!”
Here’s another account of the broader benefits of epimedium:
selfhacked.com/blog/icariin/
Like all MLMing products, you overpay to shuffle money up the Ponzi chain. To convince you to do this, they need a hook for otherwise average priced ingredients. Enter “non-existent” hgh. Seriously Derek?!!!!!!!!
Nevertheless, the main issue is pyramid scheming. Discussing the product is always a secondary matter and only plays a supportive role for the MLMing scam.
Derek was here admittedly researching the “opportunity” instead of just staying a customer. Why? It makes no sense to stay one when you can make an opportunity out of it and buy it cheaper. But how to prove real market value? Round and round we go with the inherent flaw of MLMing.
I have no doubt that this is a pyramid scheme and that there is no hard physical science trace of anything except water in this gel, and finally that a placebo effect has some bearing on its claim of effectiveness.
However, I invite you to look at it from a different perspective of perceived reality or alternate form of consciousness.
Perhaps as a type of quantum energy signature of the ingredients that remains recorded in the water. Call it what you wish, mysticism, New Age nonsense or plain insanity. But if you strongly enough believe in something, you can manifest it in your own perception of reality.
Brave enough to put on a pair of rose-colored glasses??
No thanks. Actual reality is good enough for me.
You can keep your magical fantasy reality to yourself.
You gloriously missed the point, but that’s ok. God bless.
The only point made was you have to be a fruitcake who believes in alternative realities for NewULife’s water gel product to work.
Point observed and ridiculed. Rightly so.
It is possible that a combination of the (supposedly) inactive ingredients (mostly botanicals) and the belief that something magical in the ‘water memory’ of the purified water in the gel has mystical energy is what is manifesting itself in the testimonials for the gel. But there is no repeatable, testable, scientific or medical evidence of the efficacy of this product.
If you are willing to pay $140 for three and a half ounces of Unicorn Tears, that’s your business.
Google Najjar vs. Goldstein. Opens your eyes to the supposed ‘backorder’ situation. Goldstein is a snake!
Saw this today and found it interesting – first time I’ve seen specifics of the somatropin in Somaderm and the process used:
mlmgateway.com/announcements/39636624-new-u-lifes-somaderm—fda-approved-vs-fda-registered.php
You still haven’t seen it.
What you’ve seen is the (fake) marketing hype attached to Somaderm, and it’s nonsense.
I signed up for Somaderm because I can afford to try it to see for myself whether it works or not.
I have read every comment above and am offended by people’s willingness to draw conclusions and make absolute statements without any facts much less evidence to back them up.
Luckily, I have a lengthy legal/judicial background that taught me that one is unable to draw conclusions and make decisions without adequate evidence.
Thus, I not only reject the statements made but will continue to do my own due diligence by researching credible sources that explain, with evidence to support their conclusions, the ingredients, the manufacturing process, the benefits, and the side effects, if any. And if they are not available in our world of imperfect science, I will experiment on myself.
At this point, I have found nothing to suggest that Somaderm is as potentially dangerous to the human body as most pharmaceuticals.
I find it sad that there are people who will attempt to influence innocent, well-meaning consumers with dire warnings based only on their own biases.
Eastern medicine has taught us that just because we don’t understand certain ingredients and how or why they work in the body, doesn’t mean they don’t work. And if you have attacked the Multi-level marketing concept, where are the sources and statistics to back up those claims??
(Ozedit: Derail attempts and whinging removed)
^^ You concluded that water gel is not potentially dangerous to the human body?
Sounds like that legal/judicial background is sure being put to good use…
Will 476 pages, by a qualified analyst, published on the FTC website, evaluating 600 multi-level marketing companies suffice?
Google: “Multi-level Marketing Unmasked” by Dr. Taylor for a free PDF download.
Please pay particular attention to the summary on page 11:
I doubt “Judge” above is not actually a distributor of this junk. He’s “offended” by people pointing out that there are a number of ingredients in the product and there is obviously a potential for some people to have negative reactions.
That is the TRUTH. Virtually ALL substances have that potential and there are a TON of them supposedly in this stuff.
Are you saying it’s IMPOSSIBLE for someone to get a rash or to have other negative effects and people should not point that out? Ridiculous.
Again, knock yourself out if you want to use this yourself. BUT if you LIE to people and tell them this product will give you HGH without a prescription that is FALSE. There is NO HGH in the product whatsoever.
I happen to have a background in Eastern medicine and to simply claim that since we “don’t understand certain ingredients and how or why they work in the body, doesn’t mean they don’t work” if pure nonsense in this case.
“Your Honor”, if there is NO HGH in something is it true to say that you can get HGH into your body by using it, or is that false?
If it’s false, and someone tells you that anyway are they lying? Well now…
“Offended” my arse…he’s just bummed that people are pointing out this stuff is baloney.
The (illegal) medical claims being made by users of the gel will come back to haunt the company.
They help sell the product, so the company is happy to see them, even if they pretend that they want distributors to not post them.
The results being posted online are real. The mind is a very powerful machine. Until there are published, placebo-controlled double blind studies all the hype has to be taken with a grain of salt.
Here’s how the gel story will end, sometime in the next six months:
1. The company’s quality control will fail. They’ll start shipping crap that doesn’t comply with the fda listing, or worse yet, that causes people to get sick.
2.Because zealous distributors are saying it is “approved by the fda” the fda will withdraw their listing, which will hurt sales.
3. As the emperor’s new clothes are seen for what they are – that there is no high in the product and there might be some risk from using it – sales will fall off precipitously and the people who are currently raking in the money will move on to the next shiny object.
My friend, who is a distributor and is raving about the results he and his customers are experiencing and the money he is making, has now taken to saying he can not mention the name of the product on his Facebook page, and to ‘DM’ him for more info on this revolutionary product.
I’m assuming New U Life has told the distributors to do this so as not to run afoul of FDA and FTC rules and practices.
You are correct in that. I was trying to find the original message from my upline.
I’ve never actually sold a bottle of the gel, but I get all the sales messages anyway. I’m no longer in the FB groups because I deactivated the account that was linked to it.
I’m currently using the gel and I’m still on the fence about whether to continue it.
All chemistry aside, my hair and nail growth has been incredible. I’ve had weak and bendy nails my whole life and they are suddenly strong and growing like crazy.
My hair also stopped falling out (I have a thryroid disorder). My flexibility increased.
I should note that I started taking Ayurvedic supplements at the same time I started the gel, so it’s hard to say what is having the effect.
“I started taking Ayurvedic supplements at the same time I started the gel, so it’s hard to say what is having the effect.”
I can help you to narrow it down:
No active ingredients in the gel.
For anything beyond placebo effect, seek the cause from something else.
Here’s a partial text from an email I just received:
As I and others have said… this crap is being promoted as a way to get HGH without a prescription. A TOTAL LIE! WHERE IS THE FDA AND FTC WITH THIS?
Everything we’ve been saying, including the LIE that they were given an NDC number “due to its efficacy and many benefits” is blatantly FALSE. This false promotion needs to stop.
articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/01/health/la-he-0301-skeptic-20100301
One classification you got wrong regarding being paid to recruit. You are paid for VOLUME you create.
The 6 bottles at 499 is a culmination of $59 signup and $450 give or take for the sale of 6 bottles.
You ARE encouraged to sell retail. $520 for retail account. $45 per bottle that you sell or $25 if they sign up for the $149.99 autoship which you were wondering the difference between the $170 and the @150. That’s it.
It’s likely that the company had to RESUBMIT IT due to the NON-COMPLIANCE ISSUE. FDA regulations will not allow you to NAME ANY DISEASE. “Flu”, “cold” etc. are doctor called names.
The FDA doesn’t allow that and it is no longer contained in it’s expected benefits.
Because we ARE FDA REGISTERED we HAVE TO have the plaquard saying we do not intended to diagnose, treat or cure any dieseases with the product. It’s not a “out”.
We also aren’t allowed to make promises as to efficacy which is why in the benefits it has to be noted as “MAY”. It’s to cover our ass legally with the FDA. It’s not because it DOESN’T do what we expect it to do we just can’t make CLAIMS THAT IT WILL.
I am SUPER HAPPY to be on the product. I’ve only been on it a couple days and I’ve seen IMMEDIATE results.
Increased testosterone, libido, deeper sleep, to name a few. It’s not a miracle thing. It’s a product that is valuable because it seems to work as expected. And those benefits are worth $140 a month in my opinion.
I have a homeopathic doc in my downline. She loves it! I’m very happy that I joined the company even with the recruitment requirement to qualify for residual which will eventually always eclipse any direct sales.
This is a pyramidical STRUCTURE as in ANY newtwork marketing company but it does not meet FTC requirements to be deemed a “pyramid scheme”.
That term is a catch all to discred any and all network marketing companies by folks that think they know what they are talking about. You need to know the diffrence first before you deem something a pyramid scheme.
Which if is primarily generated via affiliate autoship recruitment, is getting paid to recruit.
The NewULife comp plan states the best way to stay active is to sign up for autoship. So which is it, retail sales or autoship (and then recruit affiliates who also go on autoship)?
And you’ve of course subjected yourself to independent laboratory testing to verify your claims? Or are these claims just based on your “feels”?
Can we leave the cliched “lulz everything is a pyramid scheme” bullshit excuses on Facebook? Kthx.
If the majority of volume in NewULife is affiliates on autoship, it’s a pyramid scheme (FTC references: Vemma, Herbalife).
Adam’s post is full of sh** as is usual with this crap. He’s been on it a few days and is experiencing “INCREASED TESTOSTERONE”.
Prove it, Adam. Did you have a before, then after, blood test showing increased testosterone, or do you just lie about stuff? Which is it? Typical NewU BS
Top Gun, what were your results? I was sure mine would be nil, but I was (embarrassingly) wrong. I’ll eat crow forever, just don’t take away this stuff!
I’m not sure it’s the hgh doing the work, but there is definitely something (or somethings working synergistically) in this product that is legit.
We were introduced by a trusted friend to this company and product in April and have seen the amazing results and so have many of our friends.
Mine includes sleeping all night (use to wake 1-3 times a night), significant weight loss, ability to exercise longer and harder and better blood work (I have Hashimoto’s). And yes I did have blood work done before and after!
PLEASE NOTE the gel is FDA REGISTERED NOT APPROVED and 14 years old and was used by Alex Goldstein’s patients in California. It’s not magic it just puts back into the body what it no longer makes itself.
Educate yourselves on Homeopathy and how it works. It’s $59 to join and $140 per bottle some are acting like it’s $1000’s to join and it has a 30 day money back guarantee. Take it or leave it!
Sadly there are those that are anti networking and don’t like to see people/companies succeed and the issues described above are all part and parcel of a new company setting up, but worse with Newulife because of the huge success it’s having!
A lot of the wealthiest people and companies failed and often more then once before succeeding.
What specifically improved in your blood work? Or did you just get a printed A4 certificate back that said “Congratulations! Your blood work is better…”?
And are you taking any other medication or receiving any other treatment for your Hasimoto’s disease?
I mean hey, if HGH gel is a cure all and has been for fourteen years, aren’t you the least bit curious why it’s not used by every hospital on the planet to treat everything by now?
I mean surely Goldstein would have gotten it evaluated and approved by the FDA by now, right? Why settle for $140 a bottle when you could be distributing it nation-wide as an approved treatment to every medical retailer?
Improved sleep and weight loss are also published benefits of Licorice Root and improved memory and stamina are touted benefits of Gingko Biloba.
There are many potentially potent and efficacious botanicals in the gel, though they’re listed as ‘inactive ingredients’. I suspect they are more active or responsible than the ‘water memory’ of non-existent somatropin in Somaderm.
…and lowered anxiety (= better sleep) and increased motivation is a benefit of any placebo you care to name. Weight loss is in turn a side benefit of exercising longer and harder (with the right regime), which comes from the increased motivation.
Congratulations on your hard work and improved fitness. Why not give the credit to yourself, the one who deserves it, instead of some expensive snake oil?
Haven’t you seen one of those films where a kid finds some magic football boots, becomes the star of the team, loses the boots and has a crisis, and then realises that the boots were just bog-standard ones and it was their own hard work and improved confidence that made them a better player?
NewULife is your magic football boots. Only it costs $140 a bottle.
Unless, of course, this is all made up.
Educate yourself. It puts nothing in the body. This is what homeopathy means according to homeopaths.
New? You just said they’ve been going for fourteen years.
Top Gun. What were your results?
A multi-million dollar company that has grown exponentially yet when you try to reach customer service? Oh wait….”they don’t have enough staff to accomodate”, oh wait…..”their phone lines were down for almost two weeks. In this day and age??? Please.
“Reach out via email”. To no avail and zero response.
My password reset didn’t work to get into my account. Emailed them on that….to no avail.
I called my bank and cancelled this scam. I did get suckered in and it blows my mind that people can succeed in this company.
Whatever is in that synthetic version had adverse effects on me and I discontinued. On multiple occasions people told me, ” Oh, you weren’t taking it properly”, or” you didn’t give it enough time to fully kick in”.
Needless to say I have to agree with the claims that this is BS. Unfortunately we all do want to believe that there is some sort of , “fountain of youth”, out there as we age.
Exercise and a really good diet. ( Oh and throw in a little bit of good genetics 🙂 ). That is all.
I was very suspicious because of the micro dosage, so I took 2X as much.
Two months passed and I noticed my eye sight has improved and I don’t need reading glasses anymore. I sleep through the night instead of waking up 2 to 3 times. I feel rested and have more energy. Other than that no huge changes.
I am not feeling any strength increases or loosing any body fat. No changes in my skin. I don’t look any younger. I think if they would say may make your penis grow they could sell a ton more, but it hasn’t done that either.
I’ll give it another month. I have experienced no harmful side effects from this product. I will update this when my blood work comes back.
Dr. Greg,
I started taking the gel and within 90 days… threw away my crutches! Been on them for years from an old oil rig injury. And yes, I don’t need glasses anymore! I’d never believe but I can see it (no pun intended!)
Also, I shared the gel with my neighbor whose been in a wheelchair for 4 years due to bad MS. She is now getting around with a walker.
It also turns hair from gray to black (just ask my wife).
But if you think this stuff works well in people… just wait till you start giving it to your pets!
My cats and dogs have never felt better. Bouncing off the walls.
Speaking of walls, did I forget to mention I wake up in the morning now POLE VAULTING OFF THE WALLS?
And I am 67.
Just incredible.
I think this stuff could seriously PUT HILLARY CLINTON IN THE WHITEHOUSE COME ELECTION TIME!
~Peace~
If your doctorate was in mathematics, you might have learned that 2X 0 = 0.
Congratulations on your new positive outlook. Why not give the credit to yourself, who deserves it, instead of a criminally overpriced placebo?
Now THIS is a review I can get behind! It ranks right up there with all the “miracles” that people are claiming to have happened to them.
It’s insane to see the negative comments about this amazing product. Yes the company is NEW TO DIRECT SALES but has been sold for almost 14 years to happy customers.
I’m 53 and my husband is almost 62. My husband is the biggest skeptic he’s suffered from insomnia for over 10 years trying everything on the market to get some darn sleep.
Within a few days we were both sleeping a solid 8 hours a night. It was lights out for both. We wake up and giggle at how deep we slept. Pinching ourselves lol.
At Almost 2 months on the gel, I bet the big ass skeptics who mock this company can’t explain why our GRAY hair is GROWING in our NATURAL COLOR??? Hmmmm can you say “ GROWTH HORMONE?
This isn’t just happening to us but it’s happenyng to many people I personally know.
We are both also waking with no need to grab coffee, have great energy, awesome mood, losing belly fat, people say my skin looks amazing, my hair & nails are super strong, joint discomfort GONE! So many other things too.
I am patient and kind and will stick by this company as we go through these growing pains.
The company is doing everything they can to expand customer service. I’ve not had one problem with my orders.
by all means….. post a non-bias peer reviewed scientific study that proves what you say. we’ll wait. you wouldn’t need to be here if it wasn’t the scam that it is.
Interesting that I found this online:
When I clicked the visit link it took me to the website with “page not found”.
This is the same website that has another page with the product “out of stock” for 149.99. Something fishy going on here.
Oh I know, product not selling, go MLM and jack up the price. MLMers will buy and pay anything when an opportunity is attached.
Well, since there is not one iota of HGH in the gel, thanks to its 30X dilution, do you think the wondrous things you and your husband are experiencing may be attributed to the botanicals in the formula?
I’m just a regular-sized ass skeptic, who went and had blood work done and met with my cardiologist before trying the gel, so I can do demonstrable A-to-B comparisons of BMI, blood panels, sleep and weight loss journaling.
So far, after 3 weeks on the gel I have experienced none of the benefits you and others have mentioned, though I sure want to – especially having my hair grow in without grey, and joint discomfort go away.
I’ll check back after the 90 days is up, I hope I get similar results to yours at some point.
@Malthusina it seems you are so committed in the negative side of this product. I have read your most of your post and I don’t see any positive comments from you. Just wondering where is this coming from and why so much commitment in putting this product down.
We all value difference of opinion and for those people who have a good effect on them you cannot deny what they are feeling.
I myself felt something good using this product and with that it would be hard for anyone to convince me that the product does not work.
My question to you @Malthusian is have you tried the product already? As I myself have all these bad comments about the product before I have tried it. Also if you try it out please try it with an open mind approach. Just give the product a fair chance to prove itself.
Thanks,
Junno
Isn’t this the playbook for a placebo?
Bugger opinion and anecdotal stories from affiliates, if I’m going to take anything I want to know exactly what it does.
Why hasn’t NewULife sought FDA approval for their cure-all water gel?
@Junno, what does an open mind approach have to do with results?
I’m CEO of a rival company selling a competing homeopathic handwash called Scam-U-Like. Oh dear, you’ve found me out, congratulations Mr Holmes.
As Oz says, if success depends solely on whether you approach the product “with an open mind” (i.e. thinking that it’ll work), that’s the definition of a placebo.
I do not. You claim to have read most of my posts but you obviously missed the ones where I emphasised that the placebo effect is genuine.
The issue is not that NewULife is a placebo, the issue is that it is an extremely overpriced placebo. The reason it is overpriced is MLM commissions.
We are spending far too much time discussing the placebo effect given that this is an MLM pyramid scheme.
You pay at least $199 to join the scheme, a tiny percentage of which is used to send you some handwash. This qualifies you to recruit others into the scheme, for which you get commission, who will also try to recruit others into the scheme, on which you also get commission.
The $199+ is primarily used to pay commission to the person who recruited you, and the person who recruited them and so on, and of course the operators of the scheme. Virtually nobody is interested in the handwash. The commission is what they are interested in.
I’m researching this product and after many years of evaluating numerous network marketing companies, the very fact that the company is attaching FDA registered and all of your representatives are probably running around saying FDA approved, sooner or later the fact that you’re throwing FDA and connecting it with your product is going to raise a red flag REGARDLESS of whether or not the product works.
I don’t see this company making it far slinging FDA “anything” as a valid sell point. Once the media digs in and gets and contacts them FDA to cross verify claims, a cease and desist won’t be far behind.
This is probably gonna rob some diehard distributor is wrong but reality is reality I’ve seen other MLM companies (very good ones on the surface) get shut down for less.
The old Latin caveat emptor applies well here folks.
Is that like researching Henkel’s knives and not the act of stabbing someone?
Sure hope you are also researching MLMing.
I’d be referencing the FTC too and their rules on who is buying/using/associating with the “FDA” product.
fdahelp.us/fda_registration/how-to-get-ndc-number-for-dietary-supplement-medical-food.html
So that would mean they got an FDA number based on the HGH? Something that is not even present in the gel (if it were it would be a felony to distribute it without a prescription)?
This gets fishier and fishier
ummmmm, have you looked into the 14 years worth of sales??? Have you actually looked into the amount sold???? If you actually did, then you are either uneducated or purposefully lying…
The beauty of the internet is you can find everything you want… The only people hyping this are those selling it… Oh, wait, the 200,000 members in the secret facebook group… hmmmmm, do the numbers people on sales, especially back then.
The FDA number… means absolutely nothing… the FDA will start looking into the sales of this product and more importantly the sales techniques given most are selling it as HGH…
The people at the top will get rich selling the dream… I have a very close friend who is a diamond ambassador and I know exactly what they are making and it would surprise most, what’s sold and what reality is… huge difference.
However they are in it for the money, like most at the top, they hop around and make money and then move to the next opportunity. Great salespeople don’t get me wrong!! It’s the same pitch they give at every MLM company they are with at the time.
They know 99.9% of the distributors have no clue about the comp plan and will make little to no money. But they will make a ton! Which is awesome, this is my friends 4th really move like this and yes he makes bank… But again 99.99% won’t make anything meaningful.
That said, this is not HGH, tell yourself what you will, but the dilution means you really are putting on your body nothing more than placebo. Oh wait, if you are having vivid dreams then it must be real.
Just do the math people, 10mm in monthly revenue and go backward and you will get to the money being made. And do some real research on the founder and see what you come up with…
This did not sell meaningfully in anyway before but with the power of an MLM strategy sales are what they are… Make money while you can
Prohibited “To promote or imply that a drug has FDA approval”:
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I was an educator in the field of NUL. I have been in the holistic healing field for 16 years. I am a researcher. I have Zero professional medical education. Zero.
Because the company offers no education manual for either product or compensation plan (other than the comp plan Bri g posted in your back office), I started hosting four calls each week to teach on homeopathy and the botanical ingredients.
Many years ago I worked as a professional esthetician and am familiar w/many of the inactive ingredients. I locked arms with a Naturopathic Physician in the company in late spring and we both became the leading educators of the product.
After the second batch of product was released in early August we began to receive countless reports of adverse side effects as well as NO benefits whatsoever. Adverse side effects can only be substantiated by the users testimonial after experiencing side effects very shortly after beginning their protocol.
The side effects which have been reported are (but not limited to):
-Increased joint pain
-Cortisol weight gain
-Breast enlargement
-Breast tenderness
-Post menopausal bleeding
-Shortness of breath
-Chest pain
-Tachycardia/Irregular arythmia
-Hair loss
-Tingling and numbness in hands and feet
-Night terrors
-Rage/Altered mood states
-Upset stomach/Ulcerative colitis
-Pituitary tumor
-Ovarian tumor
-Increased cholesterol levels
-Sleeplessness/Anxiety
-Vertigo/Dizziness
Again, these symptoms were relayed to us by users who have stated that nothing else had changed in their lifestyle but for using the Somaderm product.
I spoke to my upline (Chris Cavedon) on 10/16 to tell him I was resigning my position. He had zero concern, even though I conducted four training calls each week that benefited his team, until I told him about the laundry list of side effects.
He told me he would get Alex (aka Alexy/aka Alexander) Goldstein (NewULife CEO) on the phone with Dr. Georgia Balsley N.D. and myself immediately.
On that call Mr. Goldstein stated that “No one who’s EVER had cancer should use the product.” He also stated, “No matter what age a woman is, she should be happy to get her period. She’ll feel better afterward.”
Throughout the call he continued to tamp down all the side effects. Essentially sweeping each under the rug.
He said that he wished to speak to each person individually so he could tell them what’s going on. Cavedon immediately told him that was not viable.
Then Goldstein asked Dr. Balsley and me to create an FAQ page for The NewU FB Page. We declined.
We asked him if there would ever be clinical data presented on the product or a double blind study conducted. His answer was, “I can ask legal but I do t think so. I just don’t think so. They won’t ever let me publish papers on the product. We need to fly under the radar of the FDA. I’ll ask legal, but I just don’t think so.”
The company claims to have over 70k in Reps and yet it has been told to me by a Diamond Ambassador with the company that there are only 12k+ who are active Reps and that only, roughly, 4,500 Reps were even paid a commission in late September.
While there are many other facts about the company and it’s bus practices that I could share I will refrain. Suffice it to say that I was also told that the company pays less than $15 to produce the product (bottles and all).
Mr. Goldstein admitted that all botanicals are grown in China. Although I’ve now submitted four resignation letters, I’ve yet to receive any correspondence from the company.
On 10/16 they shut down my business center which prevents me from discontinuing my autoship and removing my credit card information from their system.
Just this past Friday they charged my CC $140 for an autoship purchase and shipped it to my home. Despite that they are telling the field that I have been terminated. I also receive all company emails and text messages to my phone.
I am both infuriated and embarrassed. My husband and I have a long standing reputation as honest, and reliable, business people.
I am confident that I have shocked hundreds in the field by resigning and speaking up about the poor business practices and I’ll egfects of the product.
My upline, and other leaders, will say I’m angry because I didn’t earn the money I “could” have etc. The truth is I never developed enough confidence in either the product or the company to reach out to the influential people in my life. I’m deeply grateful for that now.
Are many receiving benefits? Yes, they are. Can this be scientifically explained or supported? No, it cannot.
I’m not willing to put money before a persons health and I’m not willing to risk a persons finances with a company built by people with HIGHLY questionable backgrounds.
We’ll see what transpires in court today between Goldy and Najjar.
Any chance those phonecalls were recorded?
Thanks for that post. I wish you had realized that good, honest owners don’t go the MLM route. There is always a slimy, suspicious reason if they do. Lousy product, lousy value, usually both.
Who cares what your upline says about you. They are scammers.
Looks like this is being sent out on commissions. Binary creep already kicking in…
There’s a distinct lack of retail focus in that announcement.
I found this New York Times Magazine article fascinating, and more than a little illuminating:
nytimes.com/2018/11/07/magazine/placebo-effect-medicine.html
I fell for the nonsense. I became a “distributor”. They sent me one bottle and the next didn’t come until two months later (but they took my payment right away).
They were behind on manufacturing the product and I was put on a wait list. I finally got the product and took it back to back with another bottle.
First, it didn’t work for anything that I noticed, second it made me bloated like I was 3 months pregnant.
I was on their auto ship program which had an order placed on every 10th of the month.
The July order wasn’t shipped until 7/30 and didn’t arrive until the first week of August. August order was shipped 8/15 which arrived third week of Aug so two orders arrived within 2 weeks of each other.
I decided to give the second (not the july or august) bottle a full chance to see if consistency/time would make a difference, because many said it took consistency of a couple of months to see results.
When the adverse effects didn’t subside and I still had no results I cancelled my membership mid Sept. F
or almost two months I have been trying to reach someone to return the two unopened boxes of product I finally received a call back today (nov). They will only take back the august bottle even though both boxes were received within 2 wks of each other.
The CS manager basically called me a liar saying they don’t have record of me calling them or writing them.
By the way, there is no way to get in touch with anyone there if you have a problem. Their fb page cs form has no send button and their cs online has a memo and submit button but neither works plus for those of you that have a ton of time to waste, you get the pleasure of holding in line to talk to a rep for at least 15-30 minutes before the auto play drops you into leave a message. This happened to me many times.
If no rep will get to you then why make people hold that long? The product didn’t work for me but my issue is mainly with their Customer Service response to valid issues and that there is no easy, clear way to contact anyone there within a reasonable time.
My experience with this company is not positive in any way.
The problem with this product is that it’s not one ingredient. So the “placebo” is thinking that non-existent HGH is causing the effects when in fact it’s probably the other cheap botanicals. Epimedium/Icariin/Horny Goat Weed is one such example – assuming it even contains that.
Botanicals can impact the body. I can’t take any flax due to it being a phytoestrogen, and my symptoms mimic many of the side effects listed in post #225. For some, flax has positive effects. Flax is cheap and so is Epimedium. I also order an herbal viagra from Thailand and it works for people. Not kidding. No it’s not MLM as it would then cost waaayyyy too much. Point is, herbs can work. MLM is a rip.
Nevertheless, the product is only a secondary issue as MLM isn’t a product. It’s a method one uses and does, and a scammy one to boot. And because of this, the best products/prices aren’t used to support it. The products are just good enough to trick you into the opportunity of sending all that unnecessarily spent money up the chain.
Btw, there could also be just water in the gel. Maybe it changes form batch to batch? That’s the chance you take when dealing with MLMers.
Bottom line, you can’t trust scammers in a scam industry for a plethora of reasons.
I’ve been on the product for three months and I have not felt this good in years. Sleeping better, moving better. Skin is softer and the appearance of wrinkles and crappy skin had diminished.
Living without daily discomfort makes this amazing. It’s not just the HGH in the product that has been helping but it had boosted my thyroid and adrenals. This all help in boosting your MASTER HORMONE.
I fell amazing? It really works!
You of course have before and after evidence of your boosted thyroid and adrenals?
And “master hormone”, is that a medical term?
Sounds if FDA and FTC action will be coming soon.
(Ozedit: video link removed)
The problem with that video is there’s no specifics – what conference? Where, when, links to sponsoring body, links to findings?
Very nebulous.
Yeah some guy in a random YT video isn’t evidence of a regulatory investigation. I’ve removed the video link as it adds nothing to the discussion.
What makes me laugh are the testimonials that I have read, especially those who say their sex drive is through the roof and their testosterone levels are higher than ever….. there’s only one problem with that – HGH does not impact testosterone production in any way, shape, or form.
Also, and I believe that this has been mentioned earlier, HGH usage takes months for the effects to be noticed, and that falls in about the (6) months range or so.
So when you see all of these “remarkable” results in just a few weeks, you know it’s either the other “ingredients” working, or it’s people making it up so that people will join this amazing opportunity….I go with the latter.
Simple question, are you a distributor? Thanks.
Just as a follow up.. No, the call on 10/16 was not recorded although there were four others on the call. Three of whom will all concur with what was said.
Many people are experiencing benefits. I, myself, began to sleep better and my anxiety lessened. My post menopausal issues also seemed to lessen.
Then at month three a huge decrease came and I experienced increased joint pain, nightmares and my hot flashes and night sweats returned. I also experienced an increase in a condition I’ve had for many years called PAT Syndrome (Pulmonary Atrial Tachycardia).
By the middle of September I was incredibly anxious about the product AND the business.
I disagree about the network industry being about scamming people. I’ve met some of the most wonderful people in the world in the industry and I e also used some of the most remarkable products which are only offered through relationship marketing.
With that said, companies such as NewULife absolutely ruin the reputation of the industry.
Since my initial post the company has added a new address to their website. Under the Contact Us button you will find a Northern Ireland address. Google Maps shows a side street in a residential area with mostly two story apartment buildings.
The bank that they are now using is in London, UK. I’ve sent two more resignation letters (this time to compliance@newulife) and still no response.
My husband and I decided to close the bank account attached to the CC they had on file so that they can no longer withdraw from our account.
I know a lot of kind and well intentioned people who are involved with NewULife. I pray the FDA or FTC comes in before long but I’m not holding my breath.
I ordered this but want to cancel my order!
I replied to your email but have not received a response. I will reject it if I receive it!
FYI, 12 months in and we just cracked 75k reps and $100M for the year. We will be 150K reps by April…500K by Christmas 2019.
Doctor offices are getting on board. The “results” speak for themselves but they are now being documented. (Those of you who have hated are just not fated to be successful in this. Nobody is called to spread hate. )
That’s ~$1333 per affiliate and $111 per month over 12 months on average.
Not a lot of retail margin there, if any. Sounds like NewULife has gone for the “autoship recruitment till bust” model.
Personally I think they’re ripe for an FDA warning before FTC action though. Bottled water marketed as miracle gel…
I’ll bet a cool $1000 that they are not still in business by Christmas 2019.
Too many red flags with both FDA and FTC and complaints and health problems, not to mention health claims and actually the BS in what they’re supposedly selling because there’s NO HGH in the product anyway (talk about misleading labeling)…no way this lasts long.
Wow…. do basic math based on your numbers…. terrible…. also what checks and balances are there?? I NEVER see customers promoting this, those that are customers actually say more times than not it does not work.
I bought 10 bottles selected 10 people to try. I said I was considering promoting, not one person said anything close to what is being said. Not one! Every single one did not notice a results…
Shocking the only people sharing results are those selling it. Ohhhh there’s a “private” group of customers???
Aww man, we weren’t invited!!
Timothy M Allen manages a Facebook group called On The Gel Success Stories, with 192 followers.
He hosted a Zoom web call November 5th for Male Skeptics On The Gel, saying that:
…and then featuring five guys (well, four guys and one couple) with cross-links back to their Facebook pages.
Well, I was a guy who thought the gel was too good to be true, and gave it a try but if only to prove it *could* work! Why wasn’t I invited?
After 60 days of religiously following the directions for dosage and usage, the only difference I experienced was some vivid dreams. No increased libido (much to my wife’s dismay), no increased eyebrow growth nor hair regrowth, no change in stamina, no increased or accerlated weight loss… I am male and therefore did not experience a reversal of menopause nor a decrease in varicose veins.
I was hoping for at lease SOME of the amazing, miraculous, life-changing, age-defying results I read about on the public and private New U Life groups. Something, anything besides more vivid dreams.
All I got was a whole lot of nada, zip, zilch. You know, the same numerical amount of results as the amount of somatropin HGH in the gel – zero.
I’m sorry, but wishful thinking and hyperbole aside, facts are facts, science is science. Purported and testimonial results should be demonstrable and repeatable, and withstand scientific and clinical scrutiny. NUL Somaderm Gel does not, period.
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I’ve been using Soma derm for 3 weeks now based on the recommendation of a knowledgeable nurse. NO positive results at all! I may even be losing some hair!
I stopped it 2 days ago. Now I have to contact New Life and hope they do not send another bottle. As the old age says, “If it sounds too good o be true…….”
I’ve used it for five weeks. No discernible results of any kind; specifically no perceived changes in anything on NewULife’s “may experience” benefit list.
Based on the 30X discussions I’ve now seen many places, I believe there is no HGH in the product. A useless placebo, at best.
imagine that they are taking down or “revamping” the testimonials page… the guy who created the video about the FTC and FDA was checking them out was correct they are under the gun…..
Not to mention the product does not work….. beginning of the end….
Here is my experience with “the gel.” A friend introduced it to me (and assured me it was a safe product). He actually purchased it for me.
I began using it according to the LABEL INSTRUCTIONS for a few days, and then was contacted by his upline sponsor, Mitch Reynolds. He asked me if I had viewed the “How To” video? and told me I needed to “super load” for 2 weeks, applying 2 blueberry size pumps in the am and pm, on different locations, in order to get the “full effect.”
I did this for a couple weeks and noticed my legs started to badly ache and then started having severe back pains.
Having been assured this is a safe product, I did not attribute this to “the gel.” In fact, I was told that I may feel bad for a few days, but that is expected because my body is going through a “healing period,” and then it would stop.
Now, after reading a past NUL rep’s post on FB (Missy Russell) along with another past rep, it makes perfect sense that I had an adverse reaction to this product.
I have contacted my friend who introduced me to this product and shared Missy Russell’s post with him. There are a couple past reps who posted horrific side effects have been reported.
I am grateful for your transparency for coming forward with the truth about New U Life, the company and its product. I have diligently searched for anything “bad” about this product and cannot find it. Is New U Life deleting negative reports?
Shame on me for blindly trying this product. Shame on NUL for continuing to sell it knowing people are being harmed by it. I have made a complaint to the FDA.
It has come to our attention via many in the industry of an unjustified attack on this company. First off we are not part of this company although many have tried to recruit us away from our current field of concentration.
We know many in this industry and and also in this company. The reason for this post is that much misinformation and propaganda have been disseminated throughout this thread. Let’s discuss 2 in particular that are quite disturbing.
1. The comments by post #225 and #240 are articulated by someone claiming to be impartial after a short stint at the company. In actuality this person was asked to leave the company after refusing to stop her product calls.
These calls were being made twice weekly in order to create the appearance of a semblance of expertise as a homeopathic/naturopathic/holistic practitioner. In fact her background is a “medium “.
When this strategy failed after a few months and her success in the growth of the company was not obtained, it is apparent she looked for another place to hang her hat in which many of the colleagues we have are being approached by her.
With respect to the aforementioned Ms. Russell (post #250), we were told she was also an unsuccessful rep at the company who has changed mlm ventures a number of times.
It was no wonder to us that her FB post in condemnation of the firm was no more than a ploy to move folks over to her new company in conjunction with her sponsor Tony.
We have the names of the new companies and all of the parties but are not posting here to disparage them. The post is intended to show a different side to this story which in these 2 cases show the lack of integrity of people in order to boost their stature in the industry while attempting to destroy a company with no more than rumors.
Until there is evidence to the contrary we find these and any accusations posted in this thread and on this site and/or others with respect to any company, contrary to any ethical standards whether set by the DSA or not. This is a witch hunt or FAKE NEWS – pick your poison.
Isn’t it funny how the requirement of evidence is a one way street to those who run around calling fake news on everything.
My wager is still valid. $1000 says this company is not selling this product Christmas 2019. All the reps will have seen their income go poof and the very top earners will be clawed-back for ill-gotten gains (see Zeek Rewards) for fraudulently misrepresenting and selling a phony, bogus product with absolutely NO HGH in the stuff.
I’ve bought 2 bottles and have had many friends sample with varying results. My son said best sleep he ever had. My one friend’s blood sugar dropped as she is diabetic. I no longer need naps.
I noticed on the top 200 earners on business for home website that two new u life people have already earned over a million.
If you are going to come here and “defend” your scam product, at least support the notion that the gel begins to work within one day to one week, and that it is LEGAL to sell a product that is listed as a controlled substance in the U.S…. oh, that’s right – you can’t. If you did just a little bit of research on actual science, you’d see why your product is nothing but expensive gel.
Here, let me do the work for you:
Other “variations” of legal HGH products that are in circulation do not work:
deadiversion.usdoj.gov/drug_chem_info/hgh.pdf
HGH has a molecular weight of 22,124 Dalton, so there is no way that this compound will penetrate the stratum corneum epidermidis (the outer layer of the skin, also known as the corneal layer).
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So according to businessforhome.org:
Self-reported income based on screen shots of back office, conventions and up and downline information is hardly proof positive of the income stated on that chart. I doubt any of those folks would provide copies of their tax returns.
“best sleep ever had” is subjective, and may be attributed to the botanicals in the gel, since there is zero HGH in it.
No longer needing naps (improved energy) could be attributed to any number of the botanical ingredients listed as being in the gel – ingredients which can be sourced for a lot less than $169 a month.
If “Top Earner” Troy Landwehr is earning $2.2 million a year, and the average compensation on Somaderm (directs sales sale amount less COGS plus commissions on downline distributors) is $69 a bottle, he’s sold or responsible for selling approximately 31,795 bottles a year = 2650 bottles per month.
According to his Facebook page, God is responsible for his success (I wonder if the Lord gets a cut of his revenue?) and he studied at a PHD – for Poor/Hungry/Driven. Not sure how poor he is being a multimillionaire. Sounds like his PHD might stand for Pile it Higher and Deeper instead.
No one said people aren’t making a ton of money selling this stuff.
Show us some REAL tests that it does anything. Blood sugar goes up and down naturally, even with diabetics.
Placebo has been covered here extensively and of course we’ve proven there’s no HGH in the product so any results are certainly not due to that.
So comical what this product has become… as they have said in their own videos the FTC is all over them and watching their every move. Not surprising, I have never used the product who knows if it works, it very may well help some people.
What’s crazy is the marketing is all BS. You have people saying it stopped irregular heartbeats… Really, in two weeks and other crazy things, which has gotten the attention of the FTC???? Give me a break..
On earnings, there is no doubt the top handful have made a million, I would say plus plus… Suckers are the ones that think that will ever happen to them. Just educate yourself on these comp plans. And if you don’t know how to write them or read them, pay an industry expert to explain it to you in plain English, not someone with the company……
Taking down the testimonial page is just the first blow. They can spin it how they want but those who have been in the business understand what is happening. Being able to only say certain words and phrases will greatly reduce sales and those that come on to sell the product.
That said, the top, like all MLM’s will get rich selling the dream and move on to the next hot dot when it’s available. The problem with anything MLM, is the BS dream the top sells to enrich themselves.
Regarding this product, the background of the founder and his other products lack off success and this one is just repackaged and has a new sales force is very concerning…. Happy pitching your friends probably nothing more than a cream that is useless.
Of course, you are not with the company…………. And of course, they were unsuccessful reps…….. Isn’t that the SOP MO to say about anyone that speaks their views???
What is comical is the MLM people think they can make any real money, most of the time mathematically its just not possible. Real money being 250k plus…
Real simple have indepenxt studies done….
#251 Dear Mr. Walker…I would like to congratulate you!!! You’ve managed to pour kerosene over a fire that had gone out.
FACTS regarding NewULife, it’s owner and TOP field leaders will be on the way. Good for you! Job well done! 😉
Been pretty quiet around here. I haven’t been hearing much about this stuff lately. Anyone have any updates?
I heard yesterday from my distributor that he was at a convention last week and a sleep doctor was there who said he gives his patients the CPAP prescription/machine and a bottle of gel and in six months 65% are off the CPAP. Most men said it was months before they got great results on other published purported benefits.
He also said that New U Life now have a scientific advisory board and are getting the clinical trials together.
Also, that NUL gave away ten $1000 dollar checks in a distributor lottery in November.
I would love to see clinical trials published. I’d also love to see the CPAP patient results quantified and published. I’ll not hold my breath.
Sleep docs will pitch and sell anything. And the thought that this gel or any gel would get people off of a CPAP is sickening…. absolutely shocking given the medical reasons for a CPAP…
Sleep docs are they real docs???? Joke, to the medical profession…
Sleep apnoea is a life threatening condition, so it’s more than “absolutely shocking” that anyone, especially a doctor would even hint that a gel could replace a CPAP machine.
Without peer reviewed proof, it’s both bloody dangerous and illegal.
I recently saw an interview with the MLM Attorney Kevin Grimes and MLM Advocate Tony Canulli and they claim to be investigating this company and will be making a video reporting on their findings.
Why would they get involved?
Is an MLM Attorney like an Anti-Aging Doctor?
So nebulous. But I’d like to read the interview, do you have a link?
This is when you should run away from the company at full speed.
An MLM attorney is there to advise the company on whether they are breaking the law or not, preferably BEFORE they are formed, and the way it’s being run. They are NOT supposed to be promoting (or demoting) the company, i.e. as a PR resource.
Kevin Grimes was fired from his own firm after endorsing ZeekRewards and put his own name in the promo material, in exchange for selling a “compliance” course to Zeek.
NOLINKS://behindmlm.com/mlm/kevin-grimes-fired-from-rr-law-formerly-grimes-reese/
KG was later hired by Thompson & Burton, the lawfirm of “The MLM Attorney” Kevin Thompson as a junior partner. He ended up coughing up 1.18 million to the Zeek receiver to be refunded to the victims.
Here’s the interview:
youtu.be/3atEt_3r-9U
And apparently MLM Attorney is a real thing. Here’s Kevin’s current corporate bio:
thompsonburton.com/attorneys/kevin-grimes/
I’m confused, is it going to be a “we were hired for PR” investigation or independent?
So now that this stuff has been in the marketplace for months we’re awaiting the factual basis that this has any impact on HGH, i.e. actual blood tests showing a meaningful increase.
Surely there are lots of these out there. OK, let’s see them, let’s see the PROOF! We’re waiting!
I noticed that the gel-ers have been extremely quiet for a while. Any updates?
I was 1 promotion away from top of compensation plan, then they changed it and my earnings dropped by 75%.
I have been solicited via LinkedIn by two Distributors to rub the Kool Aid.
I responded to both “Send clinical studies.”
They both sent to me the Company website “Science” page
newulife.com/science/why-we-age/
IF there are true reported benefits, like better sleep, better mood, etc., the HgH window dressing of the gel is more than likely covering an undeclared nutraceutical, such as, alpha GPC, which is fat-soluble, and may diffuse into the subbcutaneous tissue:
examine.com/supplements/alpha-gpc/
There’s no actual clinical studies on the NewULife Science page. Instead of hypothesizing you should have gone back to the distributors and re-asked for clinical studies.
Oz, I know there is just MLM caca de toro on their ‘science’ voodoo page. I did re-ask, and I specified that if they do not have actual clinicals to stop wasting my time.
BTW, there are contraindications against HgH: cancer, pregnancy.
The comp plan changed? Amy, do tell!
Those guys must have gone into hiding, they have not published anything.
Still wondering what changes were made to the comp plan and also waiting to see proof of increased HGH. Tick-tock…
If I get such a good brainwashing that a placebo effect, consisting of dramatic improvements in my health, what do I care if the product has double blind studies? Quantum physics is at work.
HGH has side effects apparently, but the gel doesn’t have much in, so they don’t happen. Whatever active ingredient that is in the ingredients, might have side effects.
I have been using the gel for a few months, and am definitely stronger. able to lift more a lot more weight at the gym than I have in a long time. I did experience a weekend of joint pain and feeling out of sorts, but that went away and I continue to feel good.
If it is just placebo, Great! I’m paying for a good mental programming! If it is actually some amazing compound, great!
In my experience, antidotal testimonies, if they duplicate in me in a good way, are highly appreciated.
The big pharma (Ozedit: nutjob conspiracy theory derails removed)
I don’t think you quite get what quantum physics is.
anecdotal claims above “health improvements” != placebo effect != quantum physics.
There’s a reason the FDA regulate people like yourself running around making unverifiable bullshit claims about products.
A pre-clinical study may be as few as 10 volunteers. Pre/post test IGF levels, C Reactive Protein, etc. Cost can be as little as $100 p/p.
Is your company that skilled at avoiding a shred of evidence re efficacy?
Testimonials? Flat Earthers have them. We never landed on the moon, etc.
Humans are a lazy breed, always seeking out the latest quick fix! Nothing in the world will undo years of sun damage, not Botox, fillers to plastic surgery will remove that damage!
Weight issues? You need get moving and work that body to get it off! Same deal if you want feel great and healthy, change your diet! These ALL require your input!
Basically folks are lazy, and looking for an easy way to these results above that have been proving to change your body, improve your health, feeling great to livening longer!
They want this all, without the input on their part! Instead they turn to products with a long list of promises, some these products are even dangerous and can lead to death!
Real HGH can lead/promote cancerous tumors growth in adults, just might be why the body doesn’t make a lot of it once you reach adulthood!
Real HGH is given in a shot, by a doctor, the law require that! Not from a or in a gel! So save your money, go buy a gym membership, and invest in SPF of 50 or more, wear it daily, indoors to and buy organic foods! These will change you from the inside out!
Human growth hormone might cause a number of side effects for healthy adults, including:
– Carpal tunnel syndrome.
– Increased insulin resistance.
– Swelling in the arms and legs (edema)
– Joint and muscle pain.
For men, enlargement of breast tissue (gynecomastia)
Is HGH bad for your heart?
But experts say that hope is unfounded. And worse, these products can be harmful. HGH, produced by the pituitary gland, spurs growth in children and adolescents.
It also helps to regulate body composition, body fluids, muscle and bone growth, sugar and fat metabolism, and possibly heart function.
Here are 11 evidence-based ways to increase human growth hormone (HGH) levels naturally.
– Lose Body Fat. …
– Fast Intermittently. …
– Try an Arginine Supplement. …
– Reduce Sugar Intake. …
– Don’t Eat a Lot Before Bedtime. …
– Take a GABA Supplement. …
– Exercise at a High Intensity. …
– Take Beta-Alanine and/or a Sports Drink Around Your Workouts.
11 Ways to Boost Human Growth Hormone (HGH) Naturally:
healthline.com/nutrition/11-ways-to-increase-hgh
Free and simplest way to promote the release of your endogenous growth hormone:
tuck.com/sleep-hgh/
I’m calling bullshit. People who gorge themselves on sugar diets have no problem growing sideways lulz.
Actually, according to research…
So the effect is REVERSED… typical backwards reasoning used to promote woo.
( NOLINKs://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17315038/ )
Happily, excess HGH isn’t something NewULife users are ever going to have to worry about
ALL This Chatter about the HGH …. Placebo and So On and So Forth ……
I am like the WIKI on Ingredients and Toxic Chemicals ……
#1.. ALL the Good things that people are being and feeling are Nothing more than SIDE EFFECTS of what HGH is and Does ….
HGH is a Hormone that is on your body for ONE Reason … To GROW Your Internal Organs to the Proper Sizes ….. according to your Body and bone Size and then it STOPS …..
Yes we feel good when we are Young and HgH is Running through our Bodies ….. so You cannot Have the Side Effects Happen ( All these good feelings ) and NOT Induce Internal Organ Growth ….
No Matter How you use or How much you use HGH … It will Start slowly Re-growing your Heart …. Liver .. Kidneys and other Organs …. PERIOD !!!
Now, ask yourself …. Is it worth it to feel So Good and Die and Early Death due to Stimulating a Hormone that Should Never be Stimulated ????
#2. So you want to talk about Micro-dosing …. Well Along with All this Chatter about Micro-Dosing …. Just read the Ingredient Deck … You are also Micro-dosing Extremely Toxic Chemicals linked to Cancer and other Horrific Diseases …..
For Goodness Sakes ….. Your Micro-dosing PEG’s which are found in EVERY Gallon of Anti-freeze ….. The Formula costs under 50 cents to produce per bottle and the includes the Bottle and Label …..
I also do Manufacturing … I can look at ANY Ingredient Deck and and tell how much something is to product and e with a 3-5 cent variance ……
#3. So my Question is …. For Every Action there is an Opposite and Equal Re-Action …. So what is the Action — ALL these So Called Benefits which are Nothing more than SIDE EFFECTS of Stimulating a Hormone that should NEVER be Messed with …..
What is the Opposite and Equal Reaction — LONG TERM HEALTH CONSEQUENCES for ANYBODY that is Brave and Stupid Enough to NOT Read the Label and just Listen the the BS about something that will Guarantee a Consequence for EVERYBODY that uses a Product and Toxic Chemicals such as this …..
Here is a Great find if you want to look it up … Look at what the actual Inventor of the Synthetic HGH died from …. A Massive Heart Attack and Stroke due to and Enlarge Heart ….. End of Story !!
The side effects (or effects) of HGH are of zero meaning.
By all the info from the company there isn’t a single molecule of HGH in the product.
asrcreviews.org/hormone-gel-cannot-make-health-benefit-claims-somaderm-agrees-to-modify-discontinue-certain-claims-after-ersp-review-of-its-advertising/
Google “somaderm health benefits” (without quotation marks). Kind of makes a non-binding non-regulatory PR press-release somewhat irrelevant.
This was recently shared on a Facebook page about this email from top NUL leader, a medical doctor that he “released” apparently for public sharing;
At least Randy Nordyke was trying to address the elephant in the room however, they did not heed his advice and still collecting a check.
This letter was released today but written in March. Please read it carefully if you are a Somaderm user.
Classic response they said told the doctor to never put anything like above in writing what a shit show and shit product that company has.
scribd.com/document/422414077/Response-to-Nordyke-Email-Joe-Juliano
this product is a total scam. I was promised a 100% customer satisfaction if not 100% money back guarantee.
I spent over 1K and received a little over 600 back. they know this is a crap product that is why they don’t stand behind it.
Truth in Advertising dot Org just released an article on NewULife:
truthinadvertising.org/what-you-should-know-about-new-u-life/
Well worth a read.
Been on the Gel for over a year. Until about 2-3 months ago, I used it pretty consistently with fairly good results with better hair, skin, etc. Due to a serious financial crunch, I had to cut down in the gel to using it about 50-60%.
I am now dealing with very uncomfortable hot flashes—which I should NOT be having since I am 71 years old!!
I went through Menopause about 20 years ago and feel strongly there is something way off! I am a breast cancer survivor (6 years ago) and do NOT feel comfortable using this product since it appears as though my hormones are all screwed up!!
It is one thing for the product to not work but it is totally scary if it could cause a health crisis!!
And, NO ONE ever mentioned any concern about me using The Gel having had breast cancer.
Has anyone else had or heard of anyone who has had hot flashes when coming off the gel ?? Please feel free to contact me via email ASAP. Thanks!! Lana R.
I feel like I’m pointing out the obvious but instead of self medicating with wonder woo gel, have you gone and seen a doctor?
Be sure to take a bottle of NewULife’s gel with you (or at least a list of ingredients), so they know exactly what you’ve been subjecting your body to (water gel mostly from what I gather).
From what I read above, it is a wonder that the FTC has not dropped the hammer on them yet. I bet they are on the FTC “Hit List!