MyNyloxin Review: Cobra venom and revenue-sharing
Nyloxin is a product of Nutra Pharma Corporation. MyNyloxin is an MLM business opportunity that was attached to the Nyloxin product, circa 2012.
In a press release dated October 2013, Nutra Pharma Corporation reveal that they essentially outsource the MLM marketing for Nyloxin to the True Cash Network (formerly the Text Cash Network).
October 8, 2013 – Nutra Pharma Corp. is providing updates on the sales and marketing activities of TCN, a distributor of Nutra Pharma’s over-the-counter (OTC) pain reliever, Nyloxin
In September 2012, Nutra Pharma announced the beginning of distribution efforts by the TCN group of direct distributors. Since that time, TCN has worked diligently to introduce Nyloxin to approximately 40,000 distributors in the United States and almost 400,000 distributors globally.
In August 2013, TCN re-launched their company as the “True Cash Network” and have subsequently expanded their internet presence.
They have been working to overhaul their product offerings and have allowed their distributors personal websites under their MyNyloxin.com portal. Additionally, TCN has scheduled marketing efforts in the US that will include internet, radio and television.
Text Cash Network are a long running matrix-based scheme who appear to have gone through as many product changes as they have management.
I first reviewed Text Cash Network back in 2011, when the company initially attached itself to a voucher/savings network. Affiliates weren’t charged to join, but had to watch 5 SMS ads a day to maintain their account.
If they recruited any new affiliates, they were paid $1.50. Advertising commissions were also touted, but at the time of launch there were no specifics provided.
Initially not disclosed on their website, it was later revealed the Brett Hudson was running things as President of the company.
By 2012 the savings/coupon site idea was dead, and as per the Nutra Pharma Corp press-release above, TCN was marketing Nyloxin through their opportunity.
Management seems to have changed by that point too, with the Nutra Pharma Corp release citing a Dalton Johnson as CEO:
The Nyloxin products continue to represent a wonderful opportunity for our distributors,” commented Dalton Johnson, CEO of TCN.
In the same year the MLM opportunity Noca Now appeared. This company initially looked to be a standlone but analysis of the compensation plan made multiple references to TCN.
Noca Cola and Tea were the products behind the Noca Now opportunity, having been merged with TCN’s compensation plan in the same manner Nyloxin was.
The Noca Now website still exists, however the opportunity itself appears to be all but dead.
Again, as per the Nutra Pharma release, TCN renamed itself to True Cash Network in 2013 and continued to market Nyloxin.
Today the MyNyloxin website credits Steve Gewecke (right) as the President of the company, indicating yet another change of management at TCN.
Exactly how many products TCN have attached themselves to over the years is unclear. They still maintain a website over at “truecashnetwork.com”, however the website only mentions affiliates being able to join “many TCN Opportunities”.
No specifics on the current management structure of the company are provided either.
If you find all of this as confusing as I do, a major contributing factor is that all of TCN’s incarnations are a result of serial-scammer Phil Piccolo (aliases Felice Angelo and Felix Angelo Piccolo) running TCN without actually putting his name to anything.
Earlier this year Rod Cook over at MLM Watchdog reported,
Phil is back under the name: Felice Angelo at MyNyloxin.com. If you get on their webinars you can see him under felice. Rik Dietch, the waiora scientiest (sic) is behind it as well.
They say the product is good, But, phil is selling his stock to individuals and giving it away as incentives under the table illegally and running $500 co-ops scamming people out of their money.They only have 300 members.Stop him before it becomes 3,000 or 30,000 scammed, please!
Patrick Pretty then wrote a followup piece on Nyloxin and Piccolo, observing
Piccolo is known as “the one-man Internet crime wave.” If there’s a Piccolo signature, it’s his ability largely (though not exclusively) to remain in the shadows while engineering scams within scams or within dubious “opportunities” in which an affiliate’s success chances are exceptionally low going in.
Piccolo appears to be particularly keen on “programs” ostensibly in the health-maintenance and electronic-technology fields. The “programs” may remain in “prelaunch” phase virtually indefinitely while gathering cash and gaining a head of steam.
Another part of Piccolo’s MO includes suggestions that “opportunities” he pitches soon will “go public” or already are part of public companies. In the TextCashNetwork scheme, for instance, the Piccolo group suggested that TCN was part of Johnson & Johnson, the famous pharmaceutical company.
Both articles are worth a read in their entirety.
Meanwhile I’m left slightly confused over the recent emergence of MyNyoloxin. As per the Nutra Pharma press-release, TCN began marketing Nyloxin back in 2012.
Yet is it only recently that traffic to the MyNyoloxin domain took off:
What the story is there I have no idea, but mid-July is also around the time MyNyloxin review requests trickled in.
In any event, read on for a full review of the MyNyloxin MLM business opportunity.
The MyNyloxin Product Line
MyNyloxin (TCN) serve as a network marketing arm for Nutra Pharma Corporation’s Nyloxin product.
As per the Nyloxin website (“nyloxin.net”), Nyloxin is a cobra venom based product that is
primarily aimed at treating moderate to severe chronic pain.
Using a pain scale of 1 to 10, Nyloxin may be used to treat pain in the range of 2-6. Nyloxin Extra Strength is recommended for people experiencing severe pain, usually above a threshold of 6.
Nyloxin is specifically indicated to treat back pain, neck pain, headaches, joint pain, migraines, neuralgia, arthritis pain and pain from repetitive stress. Clinical experience shows that Nyloxin may also provide relief from other forms of pain such as pain associated with cancer.
Through MyNyloxin, Nyloxin is available as
- an oral spray ($29.95 regular, $49.95 extra strength)
- a topical roll-on ($29.95 regular, $49.95 extra strength)
- a topical gel ($29.95 regular, $49.95 extra strength)
- a large bottle of regular topical gel for $89.95 (8 fl oz)
The difference between regular and extra strength Nyloxin is the amount of venom present in the product. Extra strength Nyloxin contains double the venom present in the regular varieties.
Regular Nyloxin contains 70 mcg/ml in the spray and 30 mcg/ml in the roll-on and gel. Extra strength doubles that to 140 mcg/ml in the oral spray and 60 mcg/ml in the roll-on and gel.
For what it’s worth, the Wikipedia entry on “snake venom” reads:
The analgesic (pain-killing) activity of many snake venom proteins has been long known.
The main challenge, however, is to deliver protein to the nerve cells as proteins usually are not applicable as pills.
Presumably the oral and topical delivery of Nyloxin is designed to maximize the absorption of cobra venom proteins.
The MyNyloxin Compensation Plan
The MyNyloxin compensation plan sees affiliates pay initial fees to maximize their income earning potential. This can then be further maximized via affiliate recruitment and investment into “media units”.
Retail Commissions
MyNyloxin offers retail commissions to all affiliates on the sale of Nyloxin to retail customers.
How much of a retail commission is paid out is determined by what is being purchased, as well as the amount of money the affiliate who makes the sale spent when they joined the company.
Affiliate ($1)
- Nyloxin regular spray, roll-on and gel = $2
- Nyloxin extra strength spray, roll-on and gel = $4
- large bottle of regular Nyloxin gel = $6
- regular Nyloxin sample pack (1 gel, spray and roll-on) = $4
- extra strength Nyloxin sample pack (1 extra strength gel, spray and roll-on) – $4
- complete sample pack (regular and extra strength gel, spray and roll-on) – $8
Bronze ($300)
- Nyloxin regular spray, roll-on and gel = $3
- Nyloxin extra strength spray, roll-on and gel = $6
- large bottle of regular Nyloxin gel = $8
- regular Nyloxin sample pack (1 gel, spray and roll-on) = $7
- extra strength Nyloxin sample pack (1 extra strength gel, spray and roll-on) – $10
- complete sample pack (regular and extra strength gel, spray and roll-on) – $17
Silver ($750)
- Nyloxin regular spray, roll-on and gel = $4
- Nyloxin extra strength spray, roll-on and gel = $8
- large bottle of regular Nyloxin gel = $12
- regular Nyloxin sample pack (1 gel, spray and roll-on) = $10
- extra strength Nyloxin sample pack (1 extra strength gel, spray and roll-on) – $16
- complete sample pack (regular and extra strength gel, spray and roll-on) – $26
Gold ($1500)
- Nyloxin regular spray, roll-on and gel = $6
- Nyloxin extra strength spray, roll-on and gel = $12
- large bottle of regular Nyloxin gel = $26
- regular Nyloxin sample pack (1 gel, spray and roll-on) = $16
- extra strength Nyloxin sample pack (1 extra strength gel, spray and roll-on) – $28
- complete sample pack (regular and extra strength gel, spray and roll-on) – $44
A residual retail commission is also offered, paying out 10% of the wholesale price of any Nyloxin retail sales made by personally recruited affiliates.
Recruitment Commissions
For each MyNyloxin affiliate who joins with an affiliate pack, the company pays out a recruitment commission.
How much of a recruitment commission is paid is determined by how much a newly recruited MyNyloxin affiliate pays to join the company, as well as how much the recruiting affiliate spent:
Bronze ($300) and Silver ($750)
- recruit a Bronze affiliate = $30
- recruit a Silver affiliate = $75
- recruit a Gold affiliate = $150
Gold ($1500)
- recruit a Bronze affiliate = $90
- recruit a Silver affiliate = $225
- recruit a Gold affiliate = $450
Residual Matrix Commissions
Residual commissions in MyNyloxin are paid out using a 4×4 matrix compensation structure.
A 4×4 matrix places an affiliate a the top of a matrix, with four positions directly under them (level 1):
In turn, these four positions branch out into another four positions each (level 2) and so on and so forth down a total of four levels.
Positions in the matrix represent recruited affiliates paying $99 a month. These affiliates can be directly or indirectly recruited by an affiliate’s up and downlines.
Commissions are paid out on the monthly fee charged affiliates, with how much of a commission paid out determined by what level a recruited affiliate placed in the matrix:
- level 1 – $10 per affiliate (4 positions, total payout: $40)
- level 2 – $10 per affiliate (16 positions, total payout: $160)
- level 3 – $10 per affiliate (64 positions, total payout: $640)
- level 4 – $20 per affiliate (256 positions, total payout: $5120)
Matching Matrix Bonus
MyNyloxin affiliates who buy in at the Bronze, Silver or Gold level are eligible to receive up to 40% of the matrix commissions earnt by their personally referred affiliates.
How much of a matching bonus is earned depends on how much a MyNyloxin affiliate spent on their membership:
- Bronze affiliates receive a 10% matching bonus
- Silver affiliates receive a 20% matching bonus
- Gold affiliates receive a 40% matching bonus
Additional Matrix Positions
If a MyNyloxin affiliate recruits four affiliates and one of those affiliates recruits at least three affiliates, the recruiting affiliate qualifies for another matrix position in their own matrix.
This qualification is repeatable (with each new matrix required to meet the recruitment qualification to generate a new matrix position), with there appearing to be no limit on how many new matrices an affiliate can create.
Note that in addition to the above recruitment requirements, only Gold MyNyloxin affiliates ($1500) can qualify for additional matrix positions.
Residual Unilevel Commissions
The second residual commission offered by MyNyloxin is via a unilevel compensation structure.
A unilevel compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a unilevel team, with every personally recruited affiliate placed directly under them (level 1):
If any of these level 1 affiliates go on to recruit new affiliates of their own, they are placed on level 2 of the original affiliate’s unilevel team. If any level 2 affiliates recruit new affiliates they are placed on level 3 and so on and so forth down a theoretical infinite number of levels.
MyNyloxin cap payable unilevel levels at ten, with how many levels an affiliate is able to earn on tied into their MyNyloxin affiliate membership rank:
- Active Affiliate (maintain 50 PV a month) – 2% on levels 1 to 3
- Ruby (maintain 50 PV a month and recruit 3 affiliates who maintain 50 PV a month (must be in separate unilevel legs)) – 2% on levels 1 to 4
- Emerald (maintain 50 PV a month and recruit 3 affiliates who maintain Ruby rank (must be in separate unilevel legs)) – 2% on levels 1 to 5
- Diamond (maintain 100 PV a month and recruit 3 affiliates who maintain Emerald rank (must be in separate unilevel legs)) – 2% on levels 1 to 6
- Black Diamond (maintain 100 PV a month and recruit 3 affiliates who maintain Diamond rank (must be in separate unilevel legs)) – 2% on levels 1 to 7
- Blue Diamond (maintain 200 PV a month and recruit 3 affiliates who maintain Black Diamond rank (must be in separate unilevel legs)) – 2% on levels 1 to 8
- Yellow Diamond (maintain 200 PV a month and recruit 3 affiliates who maintain Blue Diamond rank (must be in separate unilevel legs)) – 2% on levels 1 to 9
- Red Diamond (maintain 300 PV a month and recruit 3 affiliates who maintain Yellow Diamond rank (must be in separate unilevel legs)) – 2% on levels 1 to 10
PV stands for “Personal Volume” and is product sales volume generated by an affiliate’s own purchase of Nyloxin or retail customers.
At the Diamond affiliate rank, a 10% matching bonus is also offered on unilevel commission earned by personally recruited affiliates:
- Diamond – 10% on levels 1 and 2
- Black Diamond – 10% on levels 1 to 4
- Blue Diamond – 10% on levels 1 to 6
- Yellow Diamond – 10% on levels 1 to 8
- Red Diamond – 10% on levels 1 to 10
Media Unit Investment
MyNyloxin offer affiliates “media unit” investment positions. Each position costs $50 and correlates to a purported televised advertising campaign.
As per an official MyNyloxin video presentation:
[22:06] What are we doing here? We’re allowing people like you and me to buy media units for $50 a piece. You can buy anywhere from one to two hundred at a time… you can’t buy more than $10,000 media units at one given time.
[22:32] Why are we um, allowing you to buy media units? Because you’re funding, you and I are actually funding these infomercials. We’ll actually be paying for airtime.
So, it just makes sense that we would actually get commissions back from that.
[22:54] So let’s talk about how I got started here. I came in (and) I purchased $5000. We’ve had people buy $20,000, $40,000, $50,000 worth.
I started off with $5000 and I earned a daily profit share of $75.
As many of these units as you purchase, you’re going to earn a profit-share for a 90 day period if you’re a gold, for 85 days if you’re a Silver, for 80 days if you’re a Bronze and for 75 days if you just come in as an MIE (affiliate).
As above, affiliates invest in media units, with MyNyloxin paying them out a ROI over 75 to 90 days.
The more an affiliate spends when they join the company (on membership), the longer the ROI payout.
Referral commissions are paid out on all media unit investments, paying out up to 8% on a personally recruited affiliate’s investment, and up to 2% down an additional five levels of recruitment.
How much of a referral percentage is paid out depends on how much an affiliate spends when they join the company (Bronze, Silver or Gold).
Performance Bonuses
No specifics about MyNyloxin’s performance bonuses are presented in their compensation plan, with the company only stating that
bonuses will included luxury travel to exotic destinations, such as the Caribbean, Ireland or Hawaii; valuable prizes, including cars; and even thousands of dollars in extra cash!
Joining MyNyloxin
Basic affiliate membership to MyNyloxin is $1.
Various components of the MyNyloxin compensation plan require Silver to Gold status however, meaning most if not all MyNyloxin affiliates will be spending $300 to $1500 on affiliate membership:
- Bronze – $300
- Silver – $750
- Gold – $1500
A regular affiliate can also qualify at these ranks by acquiring retail customers on monthly autoship:
- Bronze – have 15 retail customers on monthly autoship for at least 3 months
- Silver – have 30 retail customers on monthly autoship for at least 3 months
- Gold – have 50 retail customers on monthly autoship for at least 3 months
It should be noted though that likelihood of these qualifications being met is unlikely. The alternative qualifications above would exist solely so that MyNyloxin can claim the $300 to $1500 fee alternative as “optional” (psuedo-compliance).
The reality is that most, if not all MyNyloxin affiliates will spend $300 to $1500 when they join.
Conclusion
After analysing the MyNyloxin compensation plan as presented on the company website, I after reaching the vague performance bonus spiel I thought I was done.
It was only through chance that I saw a screenshot of a YouTube video in a MyNyloxin affiliate’s backoffice that I thought to search YouTube for an official MyNyloxin corporate channel.
Upon finding one, it was only then that I discovered the whole Media Unit Ponzi scheme the company has going.
What I will give MyNyloxin credit for is originality. I for one certainly haven’t seen infomercials used as Ponzi bait before, and what’s presented in the backoffice certainly allures to some shred of legitimacy being behind the scheme.
The reality however is that behind the smoke and mirrors MyNyloxin is just another $50 a pop fraudulent Ponzi investment scheme.
The notion that infomercials might deliver a consistent ROI, or even one that might cover a $50 investment over a minimum 75 days is ridiculous. Money in equaling a fixed ROI out is not how advertising works on any platform, let along televised infomercials.
Yet here we have MyNyloxin claiming that should an affiliate spend $50, an infomercial will be aired that will fund a guaranteed $50 minimum ROI over 75 days.
MyNyloxin corporate and affiliate investors would of course be quick to point out that nothing is guaranteed, but quite obviously nobody is invested in media units without the expectation of a >100% ROI paid out over 75 days.
It’s an implied ROI guarantee.
Given that we know the infomercials themselves having nothing to do with the revenue generated to pay the ROI, it begs the question as to where the ROI money is coming from.
An infomercial might certainly generate brand and product awareness that in turn might lead to an increase in sales. But it’s a far cry from the explicit >$50 ROI MyNyloxin tout over 75 days.
Retail product sales don’t account for the ROI funds either, as they are certainly not reliable. Ditto affiliate autoship purchases (a whole separate issue), which are used to fund matrix and unilevel commissions.
Any way you cut it, the only revenue left to share is that affiliate are pumping into the scheme by way of media unit investment.
Sharing that out of course makes MyNyloxin your run-of-the-mill Ponzi investment scheme. And even should the hardest of Ponzi fraud supporters continue to suspend belief, at the very least MyNyloxin are engaging in the sale of unregistered securities.
As for the rest of the MyNyloxin compensation plan, it’s what you’d expect for something that now exists solely to act as a facade for the backend Ponzi scheme.
MyNyloxin marketing material urges affiliates to buy in at the Gold level at every given opportunity. Hardly surprising when this offers the longest media unit ROI, unilevel and matrix commission payouts and matching bonus rates.
On the membership packages alone MyNyloxin falls foul of running a pay to play scheme. And the matrix commissions in particular stand out, with MyNyloxin charging a separate $99 a month participation fee (which is quite obviously used to fund commissions paid out).
As to the commissions themselves, autoship is touted as an optional requirement to meet monthly sales quotas – but in reality is going to be a defacto participation fee.
Why? Ponzi affiliate investors aren’t interested in selling products to retail customers. They join schemes like MyNyloxin to passively invest.
Something MyNyloxin readily permits them to do.
Pay your $1500 entrance fee, invest in media units and collect a 90 day >100% ROI. So long as you pay your monthly autoship fees, nothing need be sold to retail customers.
As I do with all BehindMLM reviews, I wrote the introduction to this review after I’d finished conducting background research into the company but before I’d gone over the compensation plan.
To recap, here’s what I wrote at the start of this review:
Meanwhile I’m left slightly confused over the recent emergence of MyNyoloxin. As per the Nutra Pharma press-release, TCN began marketing Nyloxin back in 2012.
Yet is it only recently that traffic to the MyNyoloxin domain took off:
Having now gone over the MyNyloxin compensation plan I’m no longer confused about the above spike in traffic.
For two years TCN marketed MyNyloxin without so much as generating even the tiniest of blips on the website traffic radar. Care to guess when they introduced media unit investment?
MyNyloxin.com, a new company that has the exclusive rights to market and distribute Nutra Pharma’s over-the-counter (OTC) pain reliever, Nyloxin®, has signed contracts to begin airing television commercials beginning June 23rd.
The advertisements focus on the benefits of Nyloxin®. The first contract includes over 30,000 spots to run throughout the Southeast Region from Comcast and AT&T U-Verse Cable providers.
Putting aside the fact that Nutra Pharma Corp refer to MyNyloxin as new, despite it being two years old, does anyone think the purported contracts between MyNyloixin and Comcast and AT&T would have been signed if MyNyloxin didn’t
- have the commercials ready to air and
- have the funds to pay for the airing of them?
Asking affiliates to pay for what has already been paid for makes little sense. Well, unless you’re using new affiliates payments to pay out implied >100% returns over 70 days…
What with publicly traded Nutra Pharma Corp. indirectly promoting MyNyloxin (there has to be a deeper link somewhere between the two companies) and television stations potentially being paid Ponzi funds – MyNyloxin certainly has the potential to turn into a right royal regulatory mess.
Speaking of Nutra Pharma Corp. being publicly traded, their quarterly report for Q1 2014 reveals why they might be turning a blind-eye to MyNyloxin’s obvious Ponzi business model:
Our condensed consolidated unaudited financial statements are presented on a going concern basis, which contemplate the realization of assets and satisfaction of liabilities in the normal course of business.
We have experienced recurring, significant losses from operations, and have an accumulated deficit of $ 42,193,729 at March 31, 2014. In addition, we had respective working capital and stockholders’ deficits at March 31, 2014 of $ 3,980,007 and $ 3,973,263, respectively.
There is substantial doubt regarding our ability to continue as a going concern which is contingent upon our ability to secure additional financing, increase ownership equity and attain profitable operations.In addition, our ability to continue as a going concern must be considered in light of the problems, expenses and complications frequently encountered in established markets and the competitive environment in which we operate.
As of March 31, 2014, we do not have sufficient cash to sustain our operations for the next year and will require additional financing in order to execute our operating plan and continue as a going concern.
Since our sales are not currently adequate to fund our operations, we continue to rely principally on debt and equity funding; however proceeds from such funding have not been sufficient to execute our business plan.
Not that you’d expect anything less of course from Phil Piccolo and the rest of the guys who brought you Text Cash Network and its various incarnations…
Update 3rd April 2024 – The SEC sued Nutra Pharma Corporation for securities fraud in 2018. A trial was scheduled to kick off in late March 2024.
Following a request the trial be continued in early April, a settlement between the SEC and Nutra Pharma Corporation defendants has been reached.
Guess we’ll be hearing about the big investment in the cobra farm to keep up with the growing demand in pain killing snake venom soon.
You thought you’re joking, except you’re not. There actually *are* cobra farms in Vietnam. Had been for a decade.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/08/0806_020806_wirecobras.html
So true. Though, I was going to mention something about snake harvesting in India instead.
But thanks for the heads up, K Chang.
I have to say this Phil Piccolo character gets sniffed out from behind every scheme he’s supporting. Guy can’t catch a break even if he offered to pay cash for it.
Must’ve done several people wrong.
This is going to be big!!!!
marketwired.com/press-release/Nutra-Pharma-Introduces-Nyloxin-Pets-Treatment-Moderate-Severe-Chronic-Pain-Companion-1325292.htm
Invest now!!!
Stock could break into the $0.01 range soon.
bloomberg.com/quote/NPHC:US
Actually, I’m a bit surprised that the “I raised my dead parent with Nyloxin” and “Nyloxin cured my Ebola” crowd hasn’t showed up yet to comment … like they did on this blog:
medicinereport.com/article/nyloxin-and-cobroxin-next-great-quackery-scam
Have to wonder though if it was the Nyloxin or rather the “opportunity” that cured all those arthritic pains.
The product works. I signed up 2 weeks ago for $1 and bought the extra strength for my arthritis pain. I am thinking of joining and sell this at a farmer’s market just like my sponsor. I can’t wait for the pets pain killer.
As for the comments about the MID on this page, I think time will tell very quickly. Those TV commercials (they claim later TV and Radio Infomercials) are key. If they work, then it is all good. If they do not, oh well, MyNyloxin.com will be toast in short order.
Did you actually read the *date* of Nyloxin for pets press release? 2010. FOUR YEARS AGO. Either it’s already out or it’s NEVER coming out.
What you peddle is your business. 🙂
As one who evaluates all pain relief products due to chronic back pain issues, never mind a bum knee from an old motorcycle accident, my pain comes on like clockwork, I can tell when it will rain days ahead of storms.
I could care less about how the compensation plan or marketing plan works, I am interested in only one thing, does the product work. Well, having used it for the last year, and having tried all the other pain relief products on the market, hundreds, I have no doubt this is the real deal product for it works for my pain relief issues every time.
How do I know, I stop using it, and sure enough pain returns, start and stopped several times and just like clock work, the pain returns and goes away, so no placebo effect here.
I have suggested others try it who have similar pain issues, and none can believe it, it works like nothing else out there, and we all see tons on TV these days, and I did see an ad for Nyloxin on TV the other day, so I guess this is an effective marketing strategy given they all advertise on TV.
I agree, MLM is not the ideal model for most products, because most hyped by MLM do not work, simple. Having evaluated dozens of products over the years, I have only been happy with a few which lived up to their promotions.
When you allow people to try it before they buy a product, sure seems to be another marketing strategy which works when the products work as promoted, and for me, that is how I learned about Nyloxin, tired, it, then buy it, free samples is an effective marketing strategy which is also very popular these days as more people are more skeptical than ever.
Time will tell as it always does if this company will succeed long term or not. Past track records do not always define future success stories, you just never know.
Maybe you should ask another question or two…
2) What’s really in this product?
3) Can I buy it cheaper anywhere else?
You’ve heard of the stories, right? An “all-natural” libido-raising coffee actually contains a Viagra-variant? (Yes, it’s MLM, or WAS)
In the context of a discussion about whether a multi level marketing company is 1) legal and 2) a viable long term home business, whether or not the product “works” is irrelevant.
I just looked up a guy on Linkedin and found he is a “Gold Member.” I then looked up the product MyNyloxin and found this site.
Trust me, and do your research. The guy I am speaking of scammed me out of $500 for a seminar that was useless. Included a Certificate that was valued at around 5 cents-the cost of the paper.
For the sake of integrity (I have not seen him in almost 10 years) I will not name him but my hunch is that if he is involved-it is not legit. You’ve been warned.
This scam is now being promoted by the latest scam called Lumaxa. Without a doubt, you can count on Phil Picollo being involved, as well as his number one criminal, Joe Reid!
The ‘ new ‘ Lumaxa comp plan is a bit bizarre now. Retail and wholesale prices have dramatically increased and ILE’s ( affiliates ) are now being forced to pay at least double for the Nyloxin pain relief product.
Previous I paid $44 for 1 bottle of Nyloxin ES ( extra strength ) and that qualified me to participate in the MID Profit Share that pays 1.2% daily.
The Fast Track Matrix ( FTM ) that cost $99 was optional before but I guess it wasn’t getting a lot of participation because most ILE’s joined for the passive money paid from the MID.
Now the FTM is mandatory by combining the FTM and the Nyloxin together and it’s costing me $132 for 1 bottle of ES Spray and 1 bottle of ES Gel and a matrix position.
Problem now is that recruiting is mandatory to get paid from the FTM and I’m not a recruiter nor do I want to recruit so this FTM is useless to me.
If I upgrade to GOLD for $1500 I can get paid on my first level without recruiting…. whoopeee.
On top of that if I don’t purchase the FTM Package deal my MID Profit Share account gets suspended so they have us over a barrel.
Those of us who have money tied up in the MID Profit Share are being held ransom to pay the higher prices or get cut off in the MID. Meanwhile the good recruiters are raking it in from the FTM.
It will be 2 years sept that I can in as a gold member. Not a recruiter but thought I might see some spillover.
Came into the mid and just rolled everything until this last month when I requested 3 withdrawls. There is a 120 day wait period for the funds to be sent.
Now you can’t transfer mid funds out but only exchange them with another member.
My total commissions from sales over the 18 month period was 52 cents from indirect sales. No one purchased from my id.
So in my opinion the mid is a total farce.
As too the product that’s another story.
THE PRODUCT WORKS PERIOD.
I have taken care of a person who is quadriplegic for the last 29 years , with the exception of 1 year when I was paralyzed from the neck down after having neck surgery myself in 2008.
I have spent thousands of my own money trying to find a topical pail reliever that would work for this person over the years to no avail until I found MyNyloxin.
They have nerve pain in there hand that is there 24/7. Nothing has been able to touch it. Narcotics can’t be used due to there limited lung capacity.
I also developed an issue with my right hip and working 7 days a week didn’t help. Again MyNyloxin was the only thing that helped with the pain.
Like the person above the 2 of us can tell what the weather will be with our pain.
So will continue with the product, will just have to chock the MID us as a lose. I should have known it was too good to be true.
Well I can tell you I have lost a lot of money in the investment of Nyloxin.
We (my downline and I) have been promised so many things and yet the company keeps changing. They tell me it’s changed and you have to do this in order to receive your money after the money was already invested.
I’m sure Steve the president is pleased with how things are going seeing how he and the top dogs are taking our money!!
Also I have spoken with So called Felice and he is the biggest scam artist of all. He has access to everyone’s back office yet Claims he’s not part of the company!
I know this for a fact because while I’ve been on the phone with him He has pulled up my downline and showed me their accounts. This means he has access to social security numbers and credit card info.
When you get on to write a ticket he now goes by the last name of Johnson. I have looked up his name since and am shocked at how many names this man has gone by.
No one with a good standing would ever have to change their name, especially not over a dozen times. Shame on you Felice…..
I to invested on the MID and had several thousand coming to me that was sitting in my account. And know I have to spend more money in order to get MY money out.
Oh that’s right they changed that policy after everyone invested money.
I feel awful for bringing people into a company like Lumaxa and wasting their money. For heaven sakes the fact they still don’t have a customer service # after years of business should be a red flag alone.
In the beginning I could talk to Steve, Rick, and Felice on the phone and now they won’t pick up. We’re suppose to just right a ticket.
I invested all that money because they said you can contact us anytime if you have any questions. I would never have invested thinking the only way I could correspond is through email with generic answers!
You guys can hide behind a computer but I will make sure EVERYONE nows how crooked this company is. Thwy need to ne turned in.
So tired of people scamming others who are truly trying to work hard to earn a living. Please be cautious of this company and the people running it.
Please be very careful of the type of ” follow up” scam where those behind the fraud ask you to send more money to free up what they already owe you.
More often than not, you will be throwing good money after bad.
What indication do you have things will be different this time around ??
They’ve stolen your money once and won’t think twice about doing it again.
Thank you for your advice. I won’t be giving them anymore money I would rather lose what I’ve invested then give them one more dime.
Do you have an update on your Lumaxa review?
I invested a lot of money to get my position and now they don’t answer their emails from me. Is it all lost? I appreciate whatever you suggestion. Shelly
I just ran a post search for “Lumaxa” and nothing came up. Huh?
Edit: Oh right, the comments. Having read back through them seems most people lost money. No updates since Feb last year.
I wish we could start a class action suit against Lumaxa, but would we recover anything? Shelly H.
And this Blast from the Past is brought to you by the SEC:
sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2018/lr24295.htm
Snake oil and MLM’s, yea THAT never goes badly.
So uh what, there never was any cobra venom in the cream after all?
Paging NewULife affiliates to aisle three…
Well, in fairness they could have bought venom on the open market instead of lying to investors and affiliates about owning their own source.
But the again, Nyloxin was a HOMEOPATHIC preparation, so the less actual venom in the product the more powerful it becomes. So maybe Rik Deitsch was committed to selling the most powerful cobra venom product possible by simply not using any venom what so ever.
Pseudoscience works like that, you know, to the extent it works at all.
To our resident churlish skeptics I will point out that homeopathic remedies are EVERY BIT AS EFFECTIVE AS PLACEBOS, so suck on that Mr.(and Ms,) Science.
Is “cream memory” a thing?
Maybe if you gaslight a tube of cream into thinking it has cobra venom then you get the benefit of cobra venom when applied.
There really is an effective way of proving all of this. We take a tube of Ric’s cobra cream and lock it in a room with a tube of homeopathic mongoose cream and let them fight it out.
TINA said that FDA sent a stern latter to Nyloxin warning them of dozens and dozens of bogus claims, including the claim that the product is FDA registered (it’s not).
truthinadvertising.org/nyloxin/
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Two million plus shares trading hands sound a lot more impressive until you realize it amounts to less than $450 in actual value.