ViziNova Review: Renato Rodriguez reboots WCM777
Vizinova launched a few days ago and after some initial speculation, finally uploaded some information about the opportunity to their website.
ViziNova is a High-tech international E-Commerce firm that uses the power of the Personal Relationship Network Marketing model to share with a global community the latest and most exclusive mobile Apps for Telecommunication, Gaming and Personal Growth, plus Online Digital Marketing and Online E-Commerce Retail sales.
Credited as the founder and President of the company on Vizinova website is a one Mr. Alejandro Rodriguez Alvidrez. Alvidrez is credited with having ‘25 years of successful leadership in Advertising and Network Marketing‘ experience and being ‘one (of) Latin Americas’s most influential marketing leaders‘.
Exactly what network marketing Alivdrez has is unclear, with his LinkedIn profile only crediting him with being the CEO and Founder of Alquimia, which appears to be a marketing and advertising agency.
Things get interesting when you consider that Alvidrez lists himself as being based out of Mexico, but Vizinova state on their website that they ‘are located in Dubai, USA‘.
Assuming that the above is a typo and Vizinova aren’t asserting that there’s a Dubai in the US, it begs the question as to why Alvidrez would found a company based in two countries he’s not living in. And Dubai? That’s not even a stone’s throw away from the US.
The Vizinova website domain (“vizinova.com”) was registered on the 17th of January 2014, however the domain registration is set to private.
That’s odd. Vizinova provide ownership information about their company, so why would they bother to set their domain registration to private?
The Vizinova website domain has its own name-servers, with one eagle-eyed BehindMLM reader observing that the domains “vizinova.org”, “vizinova.biz” and “vizinova.net” also use these same name-servers, indicating they belong to the same owner (note that whilst the domains are registered, none of them are currently in use).
Whereas the Vizinova primary domain registration is set to private though, these secondary domains are not . Vizinova.net for example is registered to “ViziNova Incorporation”, with a supplied address in Dubai.
Dubai? Now we’re getting somewhere.
If one punches the email address used to register the vizinova.net domain into Google, this is what comes up:
WCM777? But that’s the Phil Ming Xu Ponzi scheme that is currently being investigated by the SEC…
Some Vizinova affiliates were claiming Phil Ming Xu owned Vizinova, but that has since been denied by a BehindMLM reader who claims to “work with corporate people”.
So who owns “email@example.com” then?
That’d be one Renato Rodriguez:
The above screenshot is from a YouTube video by Rodriguez, in which he’s presented as an “international leader” of Kingdom777. Kingdom777 of course being the failed second incarnation of Ming Xu’s WCM777 Ponzi scheme.
That’s Rodriguez above, pimping WCM777 to prospective affiliate investors in Spanish. Most of the information on Rodriguez online is in Spanish, as this is the demographic Rodriguez targets. All of it is related to Ming Xu’s WCM777, Kindgom777 and later Global-Unity Ponzi scheme empire.
I don’t know what the connection is between Alejandro Rodriguez Alvidrez and Renato Rodriguez is, but it’s clear through domain-ownership records that Rodriguez is pulling the strings behind Vizinova.
Still not convinced?
Here’s Rodriguez’s Facebook profile:
Read on for a full review of the ViziNova MLM business opportunity.
The ViziNova Product Line
On their website ViziNova claim to have “perfect products”. These include “ViziNova apps”, “high-tech digital advertising and marketing” and “ViziNova online retail store”.
Each “product” category is accompanied by a lengthy and generic marketing spiel, however no further specifics on any of the products are provided.
The ViziNova Compensation Plan
Described as “your opportunity of a lifetime”, the ViziNova compensation plan revolves around affiliates converting real money into ViziCoins, and then purchasing one of three packages.
ViziCoins Virtual Currency
ViziNova accept real money but pay out all commissions using an inhouse virtual currency called “ViziCoins”. 1 ViziCoin is equal to $1.
Commissions are paid out to a ViziCoins virtual currency ewallet, with affiliates being able to withdraw 80% of all commissions paid (excluding the Begginer’s Bonus Pool, which is paid out 100%).
19% of commissions paid out are sent to the Beginners Bonus Pool and the remaining 1% is paid out to ‘speciﬁc, company-approved non-proﬁts world-wide‘.
When a ViziNova affiliate signs up and pays their membership fees, the affiliate who recruited them earns a commission.
How much of a commission is paid out depends on how much the recruiting affiliate paid in membership fees when they joined ViziNova:
- Silver and Gold affiliates – 20% of the BV generated
- Diamond affiliates – 30% of the BV generated
This equates to recruitment commissions being paid out as follows:
- Silver (800 BV) – $160 (20%) or $240 (30%)
- Gold (1900 BV) – $380 (20%) or $570 (30%)
- Diamond (2800 BV) – $560 (20%) or $840 (30%)
Referral commissions are available on all affiliate deposits, paid out down six levels of recruitment. How much of a referral commission is paid out depends on how much a ViziNova affiliate paid in membership fees:
- Silver – 2%
- Gold – 3%
- Diamond – 4%
Residual commissions in ViziNova are paid via a binary compensation structure.
A binary compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a binary team with two positions directly under them:
These two positions branch out into another two positions each and so on and so forth down a theoretically infinite number of levels. Positions are filled when recruited affiliates (directly or indirectly recruited) purchase one of ViziNova’s packages.
ViziNova affiliates are paid $3 a month for each position filled in their binary.
Binary Matching Bonus
When a purchased position matches with another purchased position on either side of an affiliate’s binary team, it generates a binary matching bonus.
How much of a bonus is paid out depends on the value of the positions being matched. ViziNova state that the matching bonus paid out is “up to $125” (Diamond), but do not provide the amounts paid out on the cheaper package positions.
ViziNova take 19% (24% for National Director or higher ranked affiliates) of every commission paid out to affiliates, and put it into the Beginner’s Pool Bonus.
Affiliates then receive a $150 weekly commission until each individual position owned generates a 150-166% ROI.
- Silver – $1500 (150% ROI)
- Gold – $3000 (150% ROI)
- Diamond – $5000 (166% ROI)
Additional advertising qualification criteria applies, requiring affiliates to spam ‘blogs, websites, videos, and social media outlets‘ on behalf of ViziNova.
Package Sale Bonuses
As ViziNova affiliates recruit new affiliates and these affiliates purchase either Gold or Diamond package positions, the company rewards affiliates once specific package sale milestones are achieved:
- Junior Director (50 packages) – Tablet
- Senior Director (500 packages) – Caribbean vacation for four
- Regional Director (1000 packages) – Rolex watch
- National Director (5000 packages) – Luxury car
- International Director (15,000 packages) – Exotic car
- Presidential Council (50,000 packages) – House
Note that Silver package positions do not qualify towards the above required totals.
Affiliate membership to ViziNova is available via the purchase of one of three packages:
- Silver – $1000
- Gold – $2000
- Diamond – $3000
How much an affiliate pays in membership fees directly affects their commission payouts via the ViziNova compensation plan (see above).
A monthly fee is also applicable, with how much is charged directly correlating to how much an affiliate deposits with ViziNova:
- Silver – $25
- Gold – $50
- Diamond – $75
Note that I’ve seen a $200 fee mentioned in Spanish-language ViziNova presentations, however this fee is not mentioned anywhere on the ViziNova website or in the company’s official English-language compensation plan material.
Despite the mention of merchants and apps on the ViziNova website, the merchant side of the business makes little sense.
Distributors advertise the local Merchant’s goods and services through different blogs, websites, videos, and social media outlets, which will generate a 20% off Coupon from the Merchant for which the company earns 10% of the business volume created through the marketing efforts and the Customer earns 10% off the Merchant’s goods and services.
Merchants are going to offer a 20% discount just to advertise through ViziNova’s Ponzi players network?
Even if nominal revenue is generated via handful of businesses (likely to be owned by ViziNova affiliates solely to provide the illusion of interest outside of the affiliate investment opportunity), it’s quite obviously going to be dwarfed by generated affiliate revenue via position purchases.
Renato Rodriguez was a top affiliate investor in WCM777 and Kingdom777 and it certainly shows in the ViziNova compensation plan.
Breaking down the mechanics, affiliate buy in for between $1000 to $3000, with ViziNova using this money to pay out referral commissions and fund the Beginners Bonus Pool revenue-sharing scheme.
Despite the name, anyone who purchases a position in ViziNova and agrees to spam the internet collects their $150 a week, until a 150 to 160% ROI has been paid out. I believe this is irrespective of any other commissions paid out but the ViziNova compensation plan does not clarify this point.
Either way, all that’s happening here is new affiliate money is being recycled and paid out to affiliates who have already invested in positions. Throw in some referral commissions, an app and hopelessly unattractive merchant advertising hogwash and that pretty much sums up ViziNova.
If you’re wondering why Rodriguez is starting his own company, it’s because Phil Ming Xu’s WCM777 empire came crashing down after the SEC launched an investigation into the scheme. Xu later tweeted that following the SEC investigation, his partner in crime Zhi “Tiger” Liu ran off with $30 million of WCM777 affiliate investor funds.
In that photo above, you’re looking at none other than Liu and Rodriguez, albeit in happier times.
No doubt some of the money Liu ran off with “belonged” to Rodriguez… and as such here we are with WCM777 v4.0, which will be closely competing with sister spinoff Global-Unity (purportedly run by a different group of WCM777 top affiliates).
As with all Ponzi schemes, one new affiliates stop purchase package positions, ViziNova will run out of funds to pay out existing investors with. Nowhere is this clearer than the 19-24% e-wallet “tax” ViziNova charges affiliates. Affiliates only earn commissions when new positions are bought, so no new positions means no funds for the Beginner Bonus Pool.
What happens then?
The math doesn’t even make sense.
Advertising generates a 20% coupon? In which customers gets 10% off? WTF?! How can 20% off coupon save customer only 10%? who the **** wrote this piece of crap?
I’ll also point out that Renato Rodriguez is the same guy who went to Colombia and got recorded by the news crew going undercover.
Don’t they know that this sort of business is haram, and Dubai is no stranger to Ponzi schemes?
Yeah the 20% coupon should read 10% discount +10% ViziNova fee.
I first read it as 40% off (20% discount + 10% Vizi and 10% to the affiliate who made the spam). I suppose it doesn’t really matter, they only hastily put it together so people can run around going “but we have real products!” etc.
PS. The Russians are spamming this one hard. They’re keen to (silently) jump on board a lot of these South American based scams of late.
Must be a bunch of people who can speak Portuguese and/or Spanish over there :).
I’ll still bet you that Visinova had some backroom help from PMX. RR doesn’t have this sort of ambition. Someone “showed him the way”.
In this video:
Minute 2:25 “Founded in May 2014”.
Must be a video from the future.
Minute 3:50 “Their awarded futuristic apps”.
what apps was awarded, when and by who? is it possible have awarded apps when the company doesn’t have apps and still is not founded till May 2014?
About his supposed president Mr. Alejandro Rodriguez Alvidrez and his company Alquimia, their website alquimiag.com has contact info like addresses and phones and the whois info is not hidden like Vizinova.
I have the feeling that Alejandro Rodriguez can be a fake CEO in Vizinova like when WCM777 said Siemens was partners and supporting the Cloud.
In trademarks.justia.com/862/24/vizinova-human-86224552.html that is not a government official site you can see they registered the address (you have to log in to see it ):
This is not Dubai and is the same address of Alquimia as you can see in their contact info http://alquimiag.com/contacto/
Searching the address in Google Maps i found the building with the Alquimia logo:
The Alquimia website doesn’t have MLM opportunities, something weird for someone that they said to have more than 25 years of experience in the MLM industry.
My take is Alvidrez is bringing the marketing (app) technology (either directly or through contacts) and Rodriguez is bringing the “I was in a Ponzi scheme so I know how they work” expertise to the table.
Whether Alvidrez was involved in WCM777 would be interesting to find out (I did search but didn’t turn up anything).
I also found it odd there was nothing when he’s claiming 25 years MLM experience too.
And here’s Renato Rodriguez (hugging Jose Cesar in Visinova debut in Las Vegas)
Renato, you are aware that you’re doing a F*** YOU ALL sign, right?
Oh, and here’s a picture of Mr. Alvidrez of Alquimia
As far as I can tell, Alquemia is a pretty legit PR agency, been around for over a dozen years. Wonder what’d cause them to dip their foot into this cesspool?
I know Rodriguez is a pretty popular surname… Can there be family relations?
Harold Zapata is the Vizinova Vicepresident.
They have the same address in Mexico: http://i.imgur.com/krcj0Nl.png
Mr. Alvidrez of Vizinova is the same guy of Alquimia but i think Vizinova is using his name without him knowing, like Ming Xu used Al Gore or the Rothschild family. Or like Organo Gold used the name of the actor Andy García.
Zapata’s involved? They really should have just called this WCM777 V4.
Claiming this has nothing to do with WCM777 or Xu, or at least wasn’t hugely inspired by him is a joke.
Vizinova = Xu’s top investors just wanting a bigger slice of the pie.
Aurix are doing the advertising / marketing for ViziNova / Alquima (including corporate video production):
If you go to the above address you can see the supplied music files for ViziNova’s corporate videos.
If you go to http://aurix.com.mx/clientes/alquimia/ you can see the rest of Alquima’s clients.
Beyond marketing and production I’m not sure what the relationship between Alquima, Alvidrez and ViziNova is. I’m tempted to suggest Alvidrez was a silent affiliate in WCM777 and this is his reboot too but there’s no information supporting that.
I received this additional information on ViziNova via email:
I’m guessing none of the known admins speak Chinese, so…
Which brings up an interesting observation. I noticed that on Renato’s FB page there’s that “lantern ceremony”.
As far as I know, that’s only held in Asia.
Makes you think who REALLY provided that footage, doesn’t it?
Yeah the lantern festival is a Chinese thing, there’s an actual lantern festival every year that goes on for a few days.
Other countries do it too but only those with significant Chinese cultural influence.
SEC has sent receiver in to take over Phil Ming Xu’s companies. SEC seized and froze all bank accounts. All business operations ceased.
Thank you every one here for doing great work.
Exactly, NOT something a South American would do… But PMX, on the other hand… I guess he couldn’t resist providing all this crap, doesn’t it? This smells like him, lots of that religious tone, except no mention of religion this time.
With Zapata’s involvement, you *know* PMX has a hand in it. It’d be stupid to assume otherwise.
Standby, article will be up in an hour or so. Going through the restraining order and SEC filing now.
And we’re live: https://behindmlm.com/companies/wcm777/sec-file-charges-against-wcm777-ming-xu/
Thanks Bob, Oz and K. Chang have really lead the charge on this one, but I’m curious what influence anyone here could have had (other than maybe stressing PMX out a little bit)
i had a one-to-one meeting with both Alejandro rodriguez alvidrez and harold zapata in alquimia offices in guadalajara mexico two weeks ago. i had to check myself about the company.
I asked them about phill ming xu and denied any kind of connection. I don’t think a person like Rodriguez Alvidrez, being a very successful professional would risk his reputation.
Zapata and Renato Rodriguez are part of a comitte or something important in the company. Comp plan doesn’t look like a pyramid since the company has to have sells in order to pay the shared pool … looks like a good opportunity once you talked to them and see company’s vision..
Hi all friends
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But these games just like slot machine in casino you knew that always lose but people keep play forever !!!!
Thank you for your time
Ah, but casinos are specifically DESIGNED to keep you playing.
Do you know why casinos are always kept dark, and doors are deeply tinted?
Do you know why casinos have very crazy pattern carpets, always very bright with special patterns?
Money games don’t have that. They are far more fraudulent to keep you playing. Casino merely “suggests” you keep playing.
I came across this note coming from a very reliable source, what do you think?
I think that Obtainer Online article is a load of horseshit.
So they’re interviewing two Ponzi kings for their source, and ignoring Vizinova’s business model. Alright, let’s hear them out.
Vizinova charges between $1000 to $3000 for a position, which then qualifies affiliates for recruitment commissions and a 150-166% ROI.
Looking at who’s involved again, of course it’s a WCM777 reboot.
Are you kidding me? You’re a top earner in a Ponzi scheme and you’re going to try and white-wash your past? Not gunna happen.
Rodriguez and Gutemberg are Ponzi pimps looking for their next hit. It’s not a pity they “get lumped together with Ming Xu”, it’s due to the fact they were the top pimps in his global WCM777 Ponzi scheme.
And it’s this transparency, thankfully, that deems Vizinova, by virtue of how it pays its affiliates, a Ponzi / pyramid scheme hybrid.
All the compairons to Whatsapp and Facebook are garbage, neither of them charge participants $1000s of dollars to simply be paid fees charged to later participants. And Obtainer have the gall to call themselves “The most trusted source for direct news”?
What a farce. They’re no better then your average spammy press-release site.
Sidenote: I’ve emailed KT for comment.
There’s a big banner ad on the Obtainer website, advertising a “choose UAE as your home for your business” offer through Obtainer’s “business solutions”.
Vizinova are based out of the UAE.
Reply from Kevin Thompson:
I’m reading that as “right now, Vizinova is an obvious Ponzi scheme. Having learnt from Ming Xu’s “mistakes”, they’re instead going to concentrate on fleecing people outside of the US and hope they get away with it”.
These guys are obviously going to go after the South American market and target former WCM777 investors (and likely TelexFree investors too now).
Wow, you had more patience then me. I stopped reading around paragraph 5. I guess since you have to write an intellingent analysis on the business/article so your forced to read the entire load o crap.
Kevin Thompson. Is this the same guy that was retained by ipayout to advise them about the companies they do business with? Um Telexfree?
I don’t trust any of these blood-sucking MLM lawyers! They are a major part of the problem! I wonder if any of these scumbags have had to give back any of their cash they got from the ponzi scams they represented.
from older behindmlm article:
Well, well, I guess my memory isn’t as bad as I thought.
So, Mr. Thompson? Apparently your advice to ipayout was to continue doing business with Telex free? Hmmm I supose your going to be the next professional that is involved with this mess to say “I didn’t know they were a Ponzie scheme”.
If I were ipayout….Id ask for my money back.
In regards to ViziNova, Mr. Thompson says: “Under my advice, they’ve made a decision to forgo operating in the United States.”
Good advice Kevin. Your catching on. You do see these guys as being a scheme. 🙂 You swim in scum Mr. Thompson.
🙁 I’m wondering How those guys get people to involve them into this “business” …