Turbo Cycler Review: Cash gifting with a monthly fee
When I sit down to review a MLM company and see 100% commissions being offered, it always raises my eyebrows.
When I see the same company also provides members with utilities to spam people online, via SMS and phone… that only makes things worse.
Read on for a full review of the Turbo Cycler MLM opportunity.
The Turbo Cycler website operates as a capture page and contains no information about who runs or owns the Turbo Cycler opportunity. Infact the only thing you can do on the Turbo Cycler website is become a member of the opportunity.
The domain ‘turbocycler.com’ was registered on the 31st of August 2010 but the registration information is set to private. The domain however uses the nameservers ‘NS1.MLMTOOLGUY.COM’ and ‘NS2.MLMTOOLGUY.COM’.
The domain ‘mlmtoolguy.com’ also has its registration information set to private and itself does not point to an active website.
The YouTube videos that feature on the Turbo Cycler website were uploaded on the account ‘multiplexsystems’ with more than a few of them featuring some guy called Peter Wolfing (photo right).
Wolfing lists himself as the President of Multiplex Systems on his LinkedIn profile,
and likes to refer to himself online as ‘The Tool Guy’ and ‘The Online Tool Guy’, so that additionally ties him in with the ‘mlmtoolguy.com’ domain.
Furthermore the following appears on the Turbo Cycler website:
We are backed by our parent company with a 14 year track record and many successful sites to prove it.
The Facebook page for the MLM opportunity ‘Infinity Downline’ lists Multiplex as a parent company and states:
Multiplex Systems (MS) is a 13-year tradition in the United States Internet service company tools!
Infinity Downline was a 100% commission $25 a month gifting scam launched in March 2009 with the above quote published in 2010. Despite being a year off, Turbo Cycler claiming they are backed by a 14 year old company is close enough to suggest they are referring to Wolfing’s Multiplex Systems.
Oh, and just incase there was any doubt… here’s Wolfing personally promoting Turbo Cycler on his Twitter account less than 24 hours ago:
Wolfing and Multiplex Systems appear to have a bit of a history spamming people with his lead generation products and services. Back in 2010 Stephen Barret wrote an article on the website Quackwatch discussing one of Wolfing’s other ventures, ‘Scaper Pro’;
Several callers told me that Scraper Pro and Phone Broadcast Club were developed and are owned by Peter Wolfing, who has been involved with multilevel marketing for many years.
The parent company for Wolfing’s operations is New-York-based Multiplex Systems. After I located them. I reported my experience to the North Carolina Attorney General’s office, which asked Multiplex Systems for a response.
To my delight, an attorney representing the company replied that the company upgraded its programs so that people who do not wish to receive calls will be removed from its overall calling system by pressing a designated telephone key.
That way, the lawyer said, opting out from any of the automated calls will result in having the recipient’s number blocked from receiving calls from all marketers using the system.
Combining Multiplex’s “lead generation” spam software solutions with a MLM backend and the demise of Infinity Downline, appears to be the motivation behind Wolfing’s launch of Turbo Cycler.
The Turbo Cycler Product Line
Turbo Cycler include a bunch of marketing materials to members who join the company. As far as I can tell, there is no way to purchase anything at a retail level within the opportunity, so in effect members of Turbo Cycler are marketing the business opportunity.
As for the marketing materials included with a membership purchase, Turbo Cycler describe them as products
that people would get regardless if there was a business attached.
Included, webinar education on dozens of topics. Email Blaster, SMS Blaster, Phone Blaster, (and the leads to go into them) & PC based Lead Scrapper.
Tools that anyone can use for any business all included!
Why Turbo Cycler don’t sell their “products” without the business attached when they claim people would purchase them regardless, is a mystery.
The rest of the product line sounds like a bunch of spam tools designed to push opportunities and whatever else it is you want to spam people with via email, SMS or phone.
All of these services are I believe cloud-based and provided for use by Turbo Cycler members provided they continue to pay the monthly membership fee.
The Turbo Cycler Compensation Plan
The Turbo Cycler compensation plan revolves around three 2×2 matrices. These matrices start with you at the top and have six positions underneath you that need to be filled with members (new and existing).
There are three matrices within the Turbo Cycler opportunity costing $200, $500 and $1000 to enter respectively.
Instead of a traditional cycle bonus, Turbo Cycler uses a cash gifting 100% commission structure that has all new entrants to a member’s matrix on level 2 (4 members) pay their entire membership fee to the owner of the matrix.
In the above matrix illustration example, the four members of the bottom would each pay $200 to the top member as they joined the matrix. The $500 and $1000 matrix require a $500 and $1000 commission pass-up in much the same manner.
The only way to gain access to the $500 and $1000 matrices is to cycle out of the $200 matrix first.
Once cycled out, members are able to re-enter the matrix level they just cycled out of and enter the next level matrix (at their own expense).
Joining Turbo Cycler
Membership to Turbo Cycler is $39.95 per quarter. Participation in the compensation plan however will set you back $200, $500 or $1000 depending on which particular matrix you are entering.
Everyone must start off at the $200 matrix level so effectively you are looking at $239.95 to get started with Turbo Cycler.
There is also a $39.95 quarterly admin fee that needs to be paid too. This $39.95 quarterly fee is where Turbo Cycler make their money.
Although Turbo Cycler try to pass off their 100% commission structure as product sales, the reality is it’s the quarterly admin fee that is the actual cost of the product.
The 100% commission is pure cash gifting as it’s got nothing to do with the product and is effectively a recruitment commission for signing someone up. Turbo Cycler themselves appear to not even handle the money that passes between members.
True retail would mean being able to bypass the 100% commission as it’s got nothing to do with the products associated with Turbo Cycler. Without this option all we’re looking at here is a MLM business opportunity that is simply shuffling the bulk of money paid in amongst existing members.
Members don’t get a cut of the ongoing membership fees so it’s up to them collectively to continue recruiting new members and paying out commissions themselves by re-entering matrices at their own cost.
OK let’s get your facts straight. The admin/lease fee is $39.95 every 90 days but if itemized monthly it would be $13 per month (not both). Lead capture pages alone cost $9.95 to $39.95 if you buy them elsewhere so the administration cost is minor.
Members are leasing a system. They in turn keep 100% of their sales. Isn’t that what business owners do all over the country? In a franchise the business keeps the sale and pays a royalty. Why can’t the company get a flat rate per quarter of 39.95?
I think you should look up what cash gifting is. The only relationship Turbo Cycler has is that it pays 100% direct member to member. Gifting has no product while Turbo Cycler has tons of products.
Gifting uses cash which in itself is not illegal as evidenced by the billions paid in cash transactions every day. Turbo Members can collect the funds any way they want which is the right of any business owner and must pay taxes on those earnings.
You also often use vague wording which shows your lack of understanding. “As far as I can tell” Seems Like” “Sounds like” etc.
People buy the product which are educational 1-2 hour webinars. Who’s to say what education is worth. They average about $40 which is well within the norm of a webinar cost. The fact they they can refer people and make money is optional. They can choose to refer others or not to do so.
The Infinity Downline “demise” as you put it has just passed 3 years with 230,000 members. You can’t do that as a gifting scam. The business model is incredible.
You seem to want to give false and outrageous statements to get traffic to your site.
Cheers for that, I’ll update the article to reflect that accordingly.
If the cost of the product is the quarterly fee, then what exactly are members selling? Either the product is a once off cost or it’s a monthly cost.
Use of the product has nothing to do with the 100% commissions structure. Infact, you could remove the 100% commissions altogether and accurately reflect the cost of the service offered.
The only reason it exists is to facilitate gifting amongst members and serve as a recruitment platform to get more people to join the system.
If there was no monthly fee you could argue that it wasn’t gifting, but of course then the company wouldn’t make any money. The gifting is not paying for anything except a commission for the sake of recruiting someone new, it’s in no way tied into the product or service sale.
It only exists to prop up the matrix gifting game Turbo Cycler have set up amongst their members.
False. This is the same ‘ponzi schemes aren’t ponzi schemes if they pay out’ argument.
Gifting, as the name suggests, is money being gifted between members of a scheme. That’s exactly what is going on here within the MLM business structure of Turbo Cycler. No commission is tied into use or sale of the product, ie. the quarterly fee. It’s just a straight 100% transfer of money between members.
Yes, Turbo Cycler is indeed a SCAM. I joined LONG before the launch as a Founder. My sponsor hounded me to take two positions because Peter Wolfing had promised her that all of his people (I suppose his list) would be joining after her team, and we would cycle quickly and multiple times. This did not happen.
What did happen was that I lost a great deal of money that I could have used to join another program which has, in fact, been very lucrative for me.
I would advise anyone NOT to join this program. Yes, it is gifting. Yes, cash gifting is illegal. Yes, I was deceived. No,I will never join another program structured like this one.
In case you were wondering, there is absolutely NO benefit to having joined as a Founder-other than being beat out of your money much earlier in the game. I am never joining another program under my sponsor as she uses people to fill her own matrices, then she abandons them.
DO NOT JOIN TURBO CYCLER. JOIN A PROGRAM WITH A REAL PRODUCT AND REAL PAYMENT SYSTEM.
This is too funny!
Founder position , being first , free money xtc.. you cant make money in any business unless you share the info with someone. Fortunately with Turbocycler , i cycled several times without recruiting or inviting because I received spill over of people that were actively promoting their business.
Yes its a business, and you can resell the tools for a commission without having to recruit anyone that is not interested in making a profit from the cycler..
In this day and Age if you think that you will make money doing nothing , you might as well not join..
The bottom line is..
If you do what you have to do , meaning get 2 business partners to leverage this opportunity with you , you will make money , if you don’t you will not .. that said if you don’t know how to invite someone to see and understand the opportunity , then its just not for you …
People are quick to call a business a scam.. when they are scamming themselves by not doing what it takes to make it work.. only you can stop your productivity , not the business
Sure you can, try selling some products or services sometime.
The “info” (what you really mean is income opportunity) isn’t what you should solely be marketing.
And what is spillover? Oh, it’s just other people doing the recruiting for you.
Bottom line – people are still required to be recruited.
And who exactly is going to waste their time trying to resell a bunch of private label crap available dirt cheap from anywhere?
Let’s face it, this is all about the cycle commissions which you can’t earn without people getting recruited.
And there it is. Recruit, recruit, recruit!
And others analyse the business model before making the call. Recruitment for commissions? Scam.
And you on the other hand are slow or something? The opposite of quick?
Turbo Cycler looks very similar to a Cash Gifting scheme, in case you haven’t noticed the similarities? And Cash Gifting schemes seems to be illegal in the U.S.?
I may have missed something here, since the source I used was a little outdated.
Just found another Turbo Cycler member: Sherry Dossey… ex- TVI Express.
Sherry Dossey wrote a “don’t blame me, people are just lazy” disclaimers when TVI Express got busted. Just checked her websites… she’s on Google Plus and one of her sites is a TurboCycler recruiting site.
Found this reference of InfinityDownline in Malaysia using deceptive ads on Facebook.
So no, wouldn’t touch it with a ten-foot pole, or anything else related to this guy.