TelexFree disputed victim claims resolution approved
Back in October the TelexFree Trustee filed a proposal to resolve some 19,530 disallowed victim claims.
Concerned that they might be potentially held accountable for more than they stole, net-winners objected to the Trustee’s proposal.
The Trustee responded to these objections, asserting that net-winners had no say or standing in the victim claims process.
On December 26th the Trustee’s proposals were signed off on, paving the way for claim resolution.
As per the order, the Trustee is now
authorized to send Participants who filed claims through the Portal established by the Trustee (the “Participant Claimants”) a Proposed Claim Allowance.
This means that sometime in early 2018, TelexFree affiliates with disputed claims will receive notification of a proposed claim allowance (how much they are entitled to).
Claimants have thirty days to respond to the determination. Responses are to be sent to the Trustee, not the court.
Affiliates who don’t respond within thirty days will be sent a Notice of Claim Allowance. A response detailing why no response was filed to the original determination is required to be filed within fourteen days.
Claim responses are categorized as disputes, which the Trustee will work toward resolving.
If the amount remains disputed,
the Trustee may file with the Court an Affidavit of Claim Allowance … which shall establish the allowed amount of the Participant Claim without further notice or order.
Basically as I understand it, you can argue with the Trustee as to how much you can claim but ultimately the Trustee (based on TelexFree’s financial records), has final say.
Omnibus claim objections proposed by the Trustee have remained intact, with omnibus reasons including:
- Multiple Participant Claimants (affiliates with multiple accounts) claimed ownership of one or more of the same User Accounts;
- Participant Claimants deleted User Accounts associated with them by the Debtors’ records without adequate explanation or documentation; (caught trying to cover their tracks)
- Participant Claimants added User Accounts that were not associated with them by the Debtors’ records without adequate explanation or documentation; (typically used by scammers trying to scam the system with credits)
- Participant Claimants added or deleted a transaction or adjusted a transaction amount in a User Account without adequate explanation or documentation; (TelexFree affiliates cooking the books, so to speak)
- Participant Claimants adjusted the amount of their claim based on transactions not consistent with the Net Equity formula, without adequate explanation or documentation; (usually affiliates trying to claim promised ROIs that don’t actually exist)
- Participant Claimants asserted claims in foreign currencies or asserted punitive claims or other claims that do not qualify for allowance under the Net Equity formulation approved by the Court; and
- The claims are objectionable under Sections 502(d) of the Bankruptcy Code.
The Trustee is able to group 250 claims under each omnibus objection.
Responses to the objections can be filed with the court and must be served on the Trustee’s counsel.
I assume the court will then deal with the disputes.
Seeing as the court hasn’t objected to anything the Trustee has proposed, I don’t see it ruling in favor of affiliates on any disputes.
That obviously isn’t for certain however, with unusual mitigating circumstances possibly resulting in a claim determination being overturned.
Highly doubtful though, given the Trustee will already have tried to resolve the issue with the claimant affiliate.
No word yet on when Proposed Claim Allowances will be sent out. Stay tuned…
you have it a bit sideways, the trustee will send a proposed claim allowance, in it, it will detail why the amount you originally claimed is not being accepted by the trustee.(it will tell you exactly which user accounts are being disputed and why)
if you believe that the amount you originally claimed is the correct one, then you must respond fixing or factually supporting whatever issue or deficiency is being disputed in your claim within 30 days of having recieved the letter.
If you wish to accept the trustees proposed claim allowance amount you simply don’t respond and wait for the 30 days to be over, Time after which the trustee Will send a final notice letting you know that the proposed claim allowance amount is the total amount that they will try to fully pay depending on availability funds,
if you do not agree with that amount, then you must respond as you should have initially fixing or factually supporting whatever issue or deficiency was being disputed in your claim, and to this, add proper explanation as to why you did not do so within the originally established 30 days.
After this 44 day process is over, the trustee Will have most claims fixed by the claimant, and the rest, those he did not reach an agreement with because their supporting documentation and explanation of why they are entitled to the original amount they claimed he does not agree with, he will then formally object those in the court, at that point, those claimants will have another chance at being heard directly by the court after which the court will come to a determination
Yah so far so good. that is at least a step forward! Some of us in the third world are waiting to be compensated basing on what was calculated and determined in the claims portal and we close the chapter!
How can l help you locate some net winners l know here in Entebbe- Uganda?
The money pool needs to be big for us net losers to have a chance to recover anything substantial from the defunct Telexfree thieves.
We were really blinded by the likes of Emmanuel Kasanga, who recruited many of us into that fake thing.
Your best bet will be getting in contact with the TelexFree Trustee.
HOW COME , THE MONEY WHICH WAS FROZEN IN BRAZIL, 350 MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, DOESNT GET REFUNDED TO THE VICTIMS OF TELEXFREE, ONLY THE MONEY, WHICH WAS FROZEN IN AMERICA?
You’d have to ask the Brazilian authorities.
I still have to see any notification of a proposed claim allowance. None!
Might be a hold up. Contact the receivership to clarify.
How do I know if I will recover any loss.. I filed all the info and have never hear back.. How can I contact the trustee so that I can see where in the process is my claim?
You should be able to see the status of your claim through the portal?
How long the telexfree court process will continue, when its going to be over?
How long is a piece of string?
Until the claims are sorted nobody gets paid. This is what the fallout of a Ponzi scheme with over a million victims and poorly kept records looks like.
The processes towards payment is taking too long for those of us in the 3rd World, more especially when we hear some people in America have received some payments.
Our monies are depreciating by the day and we do not know the status of our claims as published sometime ago on the portal.
The Trustee should tell us when we are going to be paid.
Here’s a tissue? You invested in a Ponzi scheme, be grateful you’re getting anything back at all.
Didn’t happen.
If you have filed a claim through the portal, surely you can see its current status?
You’ll get paid when all the claims are sorted and the objections are worked through.
It says, that victims will get allowance from the trustee begining of 2018.
Now is Agust alreadu, it would be nice,if it would be resolved by now.
Nice sure but things don’t always go to plan.
TelexFree was one of the biggest MLM Ponzi schemes in history (second only to BitConnect IIRC, and that hasn’t been verified).
Actually some victims in Massachusetts did indeed get thier money back. They did a documentary on “American Greed” the money that was recovered from the mattress was giving back to a group of Mexican organization.
Hello, woke up this morning and just thought why isnt theee anything new about telexfree claims in my inbox for ovee a year since I submitted claim as was asked???
How do I find out the status of my claim? What portal are you talking about?
Kindly avail me with any address that I can contact about developments on my reimbursement. Thank you.
Sorry what? The DOJ recovered $20 million in stolen Ponzi funds and with an open SEC case and Trustee in place, they gave the money to a “Mexican organization”?
Yeah no worries…
Same portal you initially submitted your claim through.
You had to login to submit the claim so you should be able to login again and see the status of the claim.
How can we find out when the trustee will send the allowance to the victims.
@igor
You can’t, so stop asking.
Well, it seems the portal is closed so there is no way to tell where we are at in the process.
I certainly feel bad for those in 3rd world countries who invested. I myself can be patient but many people who should never had invested are desperate. Hopefully some kind of resolution soon.
SAD SAD SAD…. 🙁
I have put all my life time savings upto ($40,000), and can’t get a dime of it nor any update as to how things are going.
I have become numbed at this point. Can’t call anyone, Can’t receive any update.
The year 2018 is almost gone, since 2016 that claims haven been submitted , yet there is no head way as per payment or refund.
i think individual bank account should have been part of request for submission during filling of claims. Hope, hope will not be dashed?.
Oh I’m sure there’d headway behind the scenes. Just we’re not privy to it.
I was hoping that we will get any news before the end of the year.
Thanks for wonderful work for recovery.
We have hope that we would also be paid like the Americans. However, we are yet to receive refund of filed claims.
Please assist some of us in Africa. looking forward to receiving refund of our investment in telexfree.
Nobody with an accepted claim has been paid yet.
ON JANUARY 29, 2019 JUDGE HILLMAN DISMISSED ALL THE BANKS PARTICIPATING IN SUPPORTING TELEXFREE
TelexFree was up for an update today. Nothing new on the case docket since I last checked it (Jan 27th).
There’s also no new filings on the Trustee website so…?
So, what is going on with the money distribution, is it any news at all.
No.
so how can we find out about the distribution, its been since august 2018, what it means , that we didnt get any news.
It means you have to wait until the Trustee is ready. There is no timeframe for this.
I received an offer from a law firm to purchase my claim for 10% of the value… has anyone else received this?
Not sure if it would be wise to accept sounds like they may be getting closer to resolving this and lawyers are getting greedy trying to steal our money….. but on the other hand something may be better than nothing….
If you were that desperate I wouldn’t be taking anything less than 50%.
10% is on the verge of being a scam in and of itself.
How the law firm knows about the money distribution and the amount you entitled too?