Judge: “Government has a strong case against TelexFree”
That the SEC were going to object when James Merrill requested $4 million in seized funds be released was always a given.
Not only because Merrill claimed he needed the money to fund his legal defense but more importantly, because the money had been stolen from TelexFree affiliate investors.
Merrill didn’t deny otherwise, but argued that it was up to the government to prove the funds were derived from his involvement in TelexFree.
Unfortunately for Merrill, that’s not how it works. Filing their objection to Merrill’s request on the 14th of July, the SEC explain why.
The Defendant cannot use forfeitable, victim funds to pay for his defense, much less an unusually expensive one. Nor does he provide any evidence that he even needs the funds to retain counsel of his choice (indeed with $325,000 in the bank, nor can he).
At the forefront of the argument against Merrill’s motion is the fact that he already has $325,000 in known assets, and who knows how much more in as of yet undeclared assets.
In opposition of Merrill’s motion, the SEC write
As Merrill states in his Motion for Order Releasing Seized Funds, the assets seized by the United States are not the only assets of Merrill.
As detailed in his Motion for Release, after entry of the restraining order in the SEC Action, Merrill and the SEC agreed to the release of assets held in six accounts that were previously subject to the restraining order.
Of these six accounts, one was Waddell & Reed, account no. ****6892 listed in the chart above, from which the United States seized $79,684.28. The value of the other five accounts resealed in the SEC Action totals $328,191.
In his Motion for Release Merrill does not assert that the only assets he owns are those seized by the United States and the $328,191 released by agreement with the SEC. Nor does Merrill provide any information regarding what other assets he owns.
It cannot be disputed, however, that he has other assets. For example, Merrill owns at least one real property, located in Ashland, Massachusetts, which was used, in part, to secure the $900,000 bond required as a condition of his pretrial release.
Merrill’s Motion for Release is also devoid of any information regarding his access to other assets, such as current family income, or his ability to obtain assets from other family members or other third parties.
Merrill’s ability to access assets from other sources, likewise, cannot be disputed.
The second point of contention is Merrill’s failure to ‘Mmet a threshold showing that he is entitled to a
hearing.’
Not surprisingly, that threshold involves Merrill proving himself that the funds he is requesting aren’t derived from TelexFree’s Ponzi activities.
Merrill must make threshold showing that he has no access to funds and evidence showing error in finding of nexus between the offense and the asset.
A threshold showing requirement is not a novel concept. Criminal procedure regularly requires a defendant to make a threshold showing before a hearing is granted. As the First Circuit has repeatedly held, “a criminal defendant does not have a presumptive right to an evidentiary hearing on a motion to suppress.”
Rather, a “hearing is required only if the movant makes a sufficient threshold showing that material facts are in doubt or dispute, and that such facts cannot reliably be resolved on a paper record.”
Here, the Court should not part ways with jurisdictions across the country, and should require that the Defendant make a threshold showing to establish that a hearing is warranted.
Further, because Defendant provides no evidence to satisfy a threshold showing, his request should be denied.
In short, the SEC argue that Merrill’s “you have to prove the funds have come from TelexFree” argument doesn’t cut it. In presenting the motion, the onus is on him to prove the funds are “untainted” (as it should be).
Once again, at no point in Merrill’s original motion did he suggest that the $4 million was sourced outside of his involvement in TelexFree.
The alleged purpose of the funds Merrill has requested is also questioned, with the SEC calling out the alleged fees being charged by Merrill’s lawyer:
In addition to an inability to show that he does not have access to funds, neither can Merrill show that he needs more than what is currently available to him for his legal defense.
Although the Defendant has been charged by criminal complaint, he has not yet been indicted.
With the issuance of a criminal complaint, an indictment must issue within the period required under the Speedy Trial Act. Accordingly, at this juncture, unless the Defendant is willing to concede that there is sufficient probable cause for the issuance of an indictment against him, he cannot state whether or not he will have a criminal case to defend.
That issue, however, will by statute be resolved long before an attorney could – at any reasonable hourly rate – incur legal fees in excess of the funds currently available to the Defendant.
Brilliant.
Get Merrill to concede that there’s a case against him, thus implying guilt (which will of course be used against him at a later date), or otherwise acknowledge that there’s no way known he’s going to legitimately blow through $4 million in legal fees during the allowable period for an indictment to be issued against him.
That said and legal wrangling aside, whether or not Merrill concedes the probability of an indictment being issued against him will probably wind up a moot point:
The seizure warrants for the seized assets were issued on a finding of probable cause that criminal offenses were committed, and that the subject assets were proceeds traceable to or property involved in those offenses.
Since that time, this Court has twice found probable cause that the Defendant committed conspiracy to commit wire fraud.
First this Court found probable cause when it issued the criminal complaint against Merrill and Wanzeler.
Then, after an extended evidentiary hearing on the issue of pretrial release, the District Court again held that the government has a “strong” case against the Defendant.
The second finding is especially important, because it implicitly rejects Merrill’s argument that the Government’s affidavits in support of probable cause painted a misleading picture of whether TelexFree operated as a pyramid scheme.
Judge Hillman deemed the case “strong” even after defense counsel cross examined the Government’s agent for two hours on the strength of the Government’s case.
Finally, and echoing my own conclusion that Merill’s lawyers appeared to be engaging in a fishing expedition (trying to get the SEC to prematurely reveal their case against Merrill), the SEC argue
allowing a hearing as to probable cause on the substantive offenses, given the procedural posture of this case and the limited time for which such an inquiry is either allowable or relevant, would improperly provide the Defendant with a “sneak preview” of the case against him.
Three prior cases are cited as evidence, with quotes from each respective decision driving the point home:
In support of its holding that the defendant has no right to a judicial redetermination of the grand jury’s finding of probable cause when his property is restrained pre-trial, the Court explained that the Government should not have to choose between preserving the property and giving the defendant a “sneak preview” of its case and strategy beyond what the criminal rules or due process requires. (Kaley, 134 S. Ct. at 1090 (2014))
Offering defendant who cannot satisfy the first Jones-Farmer requirement the option of a Rule 41(g) hearing at which he would have the burden of proving the lack of probable cause, but holding that defendant must first make a preliminary showing that the property is not forfeitable (Ozedit: Again, Merrill at no point has contested the $4 million was derived from a source outside of TelexFree); this is needed to prevent the defendant from using the hearing to preview the Government’s criminal case. (United States v. Swenson, 2013 WL 4782134 (D. Idaho Sept. 5, 2013))
The Government should not be required to put on a dress rehearsal performance of part or all of its case-in-chief as the price for protecting its valid interest
in preserving assets that are allegedly subject to forfeiture. (Simpson, 2011 WL 195676 at *5-6)
Looking forward, Merrill now has the option to reply to the SEC’s opposition and somehow prove or assert that the $4 million wasn’t derived via his involvement in TelexFree (lol), or watch his fishing expedition go down in flames.
Stay tuned…
Footnote: Our thanks to ASDUpdates for providing a copy of the SEC’s objection.
It really is good to see justice keeping on top of these scammers.
Wondering if anyone has heard about labriola?
Oh Snap! Let the games begin. I suppose Merrill has requested one last Hail Mary phone call to his long lost buddy Carlos in Brazil.
I’m finding the legaleze a little difficult to digest, but overall it sounds like the SEC lawyers are doing a great job of replying to the various defendent motions.
What I’m reading is that Merrill is asking for a cool 4 mil to pay the lawyers. He says that the SEC have not proven that the 4 mil are the proceeds of a fraud and, therefore, they should either give him 4 mil or have a hearing to prove that the 4 mil are indeed part of the fraud and should not be given to him.
The SEC says that you’re already rich bitch and have plenty of assets to draw from. On top of that, you’re the one who has to prove to us that you need assets above and beyond what you already have and you’re not allowed to ask for a hearing where we have to give you a “sneak peek” in order to prove that the 4 mil are the proceeds of fraud.
Please correct me if any of the above is wrong or needs modification. I did not quite get the part where the SEC argued about the indictment and the right to a speedy trial.
Merrill needs to meet “the threshold”, which entails casting doubt or demonstrating a flaw in analysis that the funds he’s requesting are a result of his involvement in TelexFree.
He hasn’t contested the funds aren’t from TelexFree, so it’s a bit of a moot point but the SEC argue he doesn’t get a hearing without meeting this threshold.
They argue that any hearing will simply be a repeat of past hearing(s), with the exception that the government will have to prematurely reveal their case (in part or otherwise) against him (to conclusively demonstrate the funds he’s requesting are from TelexFree).
Merrill can try to meet this threshold (and claim the funds are from elsewhere with proof enough to cast doubt), or expect his request to be denied. That’s how I read it.
I’m thinking his lawyers aren’t completely stupid, so it was likely a fishing expedition to try and get the SEC to reveal their case at the hearing.
There’s no other plausible explanation to explain where the $4M came from, so Merrill claiming it’s from elsewhere makes little sense (he can’t just claim it, he has to, under penalty of perjury, provide enough proof to cast doubt (cross the threshold) and justify a hearing).
Didn’t you know that Merrill ran an escorting business on the side that catered exclusively to men. That’s where the 4 mil came from. Of course, he can’t just come out and say it so that’s why the request of 4 mil was kind of vague.
BTW How much time does the governement have to indict him?
At this stage Merril has only been arrested on suspicion but has not been charged.
He has the right to demand a “speedy trial,” where he would in effect demand that the state (indict) him or let him go.
If Merrill doesn’t make that demand the state has a set period of time in which to indict (let’s use three years for the sake of discussion.) If at the end of three years they have not done so then Merrill is no longer “under suspicion” and must be released from arrest (jail or bail.)
Therefore: “With the issuance of a criminal complaint, an indictment must issue within the period required under the Speedy Trial Act. Accordingly, at this juncture, unless the Defendant is willing to concede that there is sufficient probable cause for the issuance of an indictment against him, he cannot state whether or not he will have a criminal case to defend.
The SEC is saying they have lots of time on the clock to indict him, for now there are no charges, and thus Merrill has no need to defend himself, but if he “concedes” (which he will never do) then he might have a criminal case to defend.
Merrill was arrested in early May. I’d guess the deadline would be 3, 6 or 12 months but I’m not certain which (a basic Google search didn’t really help).
Actually it’s probably longer than that. Paul Burks hasn’t been criminally charged with anything and Zeek was taken down Aug 2012.
I’d also suggest a “Wanzeler strategy” would be put in place before Merrill is indicted over anything in the US.
The Acre PP mentioned co-operation between the SEC and her office, but how deep that runs remains to be seen.
Here, the Federal statutes cite a limitation of five years unless a speedy trial is demanded… longer for some particular crimes
Five Years from the date of the crime.
James merrill is full of shit. His family and friends defend him because they also benefited from his ponzi scheme.
They should investigate his family also they probably have telex money hidden in their bank accounts or hidden in their propertties. Throw them all in jail.
Merrill deserves atleast 20 years in jail for scamming so many people. Maybe he can clean the toilets in jail since he so good at cleaning
In Carlos Costa’s latest “news flash” (youtube.com/watch?v=ToybIMayUOE) he is complaining that Acre’s PP has included US accusations, charges and docs into the Brazilian process and that’s outrageous.
In his words, and the SEC, US DoJ and whatever foreign accusations there may be, they have nothing to do with Ympactus. He also complains that the “translation of the documents was not done by a Brazilian official translator”… LOL.
Of course he states his lawyers have already filed a motion against the inclusion of “foreign evidence”. And there’s the usual paper waving, justice blaming, self promoting, God evocation… And all that Costa’s freak show we are used to.
So, Oz, it seems Acre’s PP and SEC are doing something together, as we type.
You probably mean he has been charged with Conspiracy to commit wire fraud, but he has not yet been indicted?
No, that is not what I meant.
A Federal Complaint was filed, based on that a Federal Judge signed an arrest warrant, and based on that Merrill was arrested. SEE Below.
“Procedural Differences
The exact felony charging procedure differs between individual states, but there are generally two different procedures.
Grand Jury – Several states and the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT use a grand jury. A group of ordinary citizens are picked for the grand jury, and then the prosecutor presents evidence against the accused. The grand jury decides whether or not the person can be charged with a crime.”
Per Federal Law Merrill has been arrested but has not been charged. The grand jury has not returned an indictment.
From the article, blockquote #6:
You have probably read “THE LAW” as a Bible, and now you want us to believe in it too.
Don’t be an asshole.
I suggest that “charging by criminal complaint” but “not yet indicted” indicates that the defendant has been arrested but not actually or formally charged.
Under Federal law charges are brought after grand jury indictment. Believe it or don’t I don’t care. You can wallow in ignorance if that is your preference.
Arrested and held without bail without being charged ??
Where’s Amnesty International and the United Nations when you need them ?
@Diego
Ah wonderful. Finally the “Ympactus has nothing to do with TelexFree” BS is being called out for what it is on his home turf.
From memory a Brazilian judge already referred to Ympactus and TelexFree as one and the same did they not? Either way. Same owners, same website, same backoffice, same staff, same Ponzi scheme.
“Foreign evidence”, lol. Sweat Costa, sweat.
TelexFree affiliate brandishing a machete:
(Ozedit: Facebook post unavailable as of Aug 2019)
Can we get a rough translation?
Yeap. It went like this, down here:
They have Always tried to play the “but Telexfree and Ympactus are not related at all”. That must be one of the reasons Carlos Costa sold his share of Telexfree US to Merrill. But surely Wanzeler did not wanted to do the same.
Even in Ympactus legal register documentation it reads “Ympactus” under “Company Name” and “Telexfree Inc.” under “Trading Name” (Brazil does not have any “Inc.” company – it is called Ltda.). From that one can plainly see that they wanted people from Brazil to think Ympactus was Telexfree Inc. (even Costa was called Director of Telexfree and there’re lots of Costa’s “Telexfree news flash”).
The first time this “Ympactus is not Telexfree” came up was when Ympactus filed for bankruptcy in Brazil alleging that they owned millions of dollars to Telexfree US (their biggest debtors). The BK judge then denied the request saying it was impossible to pay a company if the owners and the company itself is the same requesting BK.
Costa then started to promote himself as “Ympactus Director” and changed it to “Ympactus news flash”. He said, at the time, that “Telexfree decided to cut relations with Ympactus”.
And, if you also remember, that’s when the Botafogo football team marketing contract was signed… They were trying then to promote Telexfree as a “brand new” company looking at opportunities in Brazil.
As someone who enjoys writing the odd conversational skit every now and again to explain something, consider my hat tipped Mr. Diego sir 🙂
Merrill has been arrested, okay, but I believe you have read the rules as a Bible and have ignored the realities.
The case is currently in a pre-trial phase. Merrill has been charged (formally accused, but not indicted) with Conspiracy to commit wire fraud, by a criminal complaint presented before a court (or a grand jury, but I’m not sure about that part).
The next step will be an indictment. It will also contain charges, probably in more details than the complaint. The grand jury has a function there, e.g. in deciding whether the case should be tried or be dismissed.
Some types of criminal charges are needed in the pre-trial phase, e.g. to show that there’s enough reason to arrest him, enough reason to freeze assets.
Here’s from the same source you used (I believe):
The part you quoted was probably out of context.
He says “Ympactus Telexfree” was a great company with “wonderful products” and when he saw the opportunity he ran to the bank and make some loan to join Ympactus. He complains that he received not a penny due to the f**king justice that has frozen TF accounts illegaly and with no proof. He blames politicians, justice and so on…
He then goes angrier and says since they do not value people down here, he will start cutting tourist’s heads off. He says if no judge, congressman, and even the president does nothing, he will kill everyone.
He also says he has a sick daughter and because he has no money, he cannot pay for her medical care and, if she dies, he will go to any PP office and “unload a box of ammo”.
That video’s been running around for some days now. In my opinion, that guy should be arrested for the things he says. But due to his accent (from specific Brazilian region) and the poor choice and repetition of words, it is almost impossible to take that seriuosly and it looks more like a prank than a thread.
Cheers for the translation. I won’t do a seperate writeup then… we’ll just leave it up here in the comments for what it is: a desperate joke.
Anyone from the US who profited, this is where your money came from.
TelexFree, changing lives.
In time: that video would make an AWSOME autotune montage. LOL.
Not according to Federal Rules. He can’t be charged unless and until the grand jury indicts by bringing back a True Bill. You’re capable of researching this so do your homework and quit relying on popular notions.
http://www.justice.gov/usao/mn/criminal_proc.html
NoLink- http://www.justice.gov/usao/ma/news/2014/May/MerrillJamesPR.html
It may be a popular way to describe events in a press release (charged in a complaint etc) but as I see it no charges have been filed against Merrill because under Federal Rules charges can not be filed until the grand jury brings back an indictment. If you want to consider him charged that is your prerogative. I don’t.
Its worth noting that the SEC argued that Merril did not need funds to pay a lawyer since he was unindicted and therefore had no reason to prepare a defense. and of course Merrill has not been arraigned, which is where the charges are read and the where the plea is entered.
I realize its a popular conception that if the grand jury fails to indict that the “charges are dropped” but this is not really so. In actuality a failure to indict means the charges are never brought.
Interesting but it begs the question of when charges attach, and I think attach is a good word here because a person can be arrested and never be charged.
Hoss your obstinance is of no consequence.
He was arrested and charged and held in jail, no matter how you choose to interpret it.
That’s why I used the expression “reading the rules like a Bible”. I am capable of researching it, but I’m not capable of researching how people have interpreted or misinterpreted something.
You must explain how you have (mis-)interpreted the source?
Your explanation can be something like this:
“Since the word ‘charges’ first was used in verse 8 of the Bible (the verse about Arraignment), it must have a very specific meaning, the word must have been reserved for that specific use.”
That explanation will point out exactly WHERE in the source (point 8, Arraignment) you have interpreted or misinterpreted something, and it will also explain WHY (e.g. you believed the word ‘charges’ was reserved).
You’re right, it’s a very popular way to describe it. 🙂
“Because under Federal Rules …” ignores that the word “charges” also are being used other places in Federal Rules for Criminal Procedure. “Charged” or “charges” are not reserved words.
Rule 4(b)(1)(B) – “describe the offense charged in the complaint”.
I am not saying that your understanding is wrong (as far as it goes,) and I do not disagree, but it does not explain
which is what I was addressing before you two knuckleheads butted in with your snide Amnesty International and Bible junk.
I originally said:
“At this stage Merril; has only been arrested on suspicion but has not been charged.”
To which Norway replied:
“You probably mean he has been charged with Conspiracy to commit wire fraud, but he has not yet been indicted?”
To which I replied:
“No that’s not what I meant.”
….
The SEC argued that Merrill’s motion for release of funds should be denied based partly on the premise that he needs no money to pay an attorney because he has nothing to defend against until and unless the grand jury hands down an indictment.
In that context and per Federal Rules he has not been charged and can not be until the grand jury returns a True Bill. Additionally he has not entered a plea and will not be required to do until charged at his formal arraignment. That is what I meant.
Had the SEC argued (as you two noggins have) that Merril has already been “charged” (which he hasn’t under Federal Rules) then he would already have been arraigned and entered a plea and would need money and the advice of an attorney to defend himself.
Clearly that argument does not work for the purpose of denying Merrill funds.
See?
Look in the mirror. I was addressing the SEC’s arguments against Merril’s Motion for Release of Funds (the subject of this article and Naz’s comment).
The SECs argument takes the position that Merril has not been indicted, thus not charged with a crime, thus has no need for money to pay an attorney.
So yes you are capable of researching raw statutes but apparently have no facility in applying them to the arguments that the SEC has made.
Either one of you could have said, “Oh I see what the SEC is doing here” but instead one of you brought up the Bible and the other Amnesty International.
That in a nutshell is why these discussions go on interminably. Neither of you two “get it” and then you argue until your blue in the face that you do.
The discussion about whether the word “charges” should be interpreted as a reserved word doesn’t make much sense, but the sources used to back up arguments did (make sense).
The link NOLINK://www.justice.gov/usao/mn/criminal_proc.html had a description of the whole process including deadlines. It makes sense as long as people don’t read it as a Bible (word by word, verse by verse, as the “True Source of Wisdom”).
We can simply STOP the irrelevant parts of the discussion. Most likely, none of us will be able to prove anything of importance.
“Thus not charged with a crime” was your own idea, it derived from your belief system rather than from the original source. The original doesn’t have the same conclusion:
You applied your own idea to it, “since he hasn’t been indicted then he can’t have been charged either”. That idea ignore the logic already used in the statement and replaces it with your own ideas.
Merrill has clearly been charged with criminal charges in the complaint. But that doesn’t mean he has been charged the way you see it. You might have a different interpretation (or misinterpretation) of the word “charges” (and many other words).
I don’t apply the same ideas as you do. That’s the difference. I’m less focused on written rules, and I will most likely interpret some rules differently than you do. I’m much more focused on the realities than you are, and less focused on specific details.
On or before June 6, 2014, Merrill agreed to provide the government “an additional 45 days to return an indictment (in
addition to the 30 days provided by statute).”
Source: Merrill defense filing, as published on the ASD Updates Blog Files Website. See final paragraph of Doc 42:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=YXNkdXBkYXRlcy5jb218ZmlsZXMtd2Vic2l0ZXxneDo1YzU2MzUyYmFjNGI1NWM5
The first 30 days would have tolled on or around June 9, given Merrill was arrested on May 9. So, if the 45-day-clock began ticking on June 9, it would mean he’d be indicted on or around July 24.
The Feds’ newest team member in the Merrill criminal case is the chief of the Asset Forfeiture Unit.
Here is a famous case with which she was involved. This case had ties to the case of racketeer James “Whitey” Bulger, one of the most notorious criminals in America and a onetime member of the FBI’s 10 Most Wanted list:
http://www.justice.gov/usao/ma/news/2012/June/SentencingPR.html
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So, according to Hoss, Merrill was jailed without being charged, merely on a complaint.
Thanks Patrick – You’re saying that the government has 30 days to indict after arrest unless the defendant agrees to extend or waives right to a speedy trial? That sounds right and reasonable.
All I ask is that you stick to topic and not run every discussion into a ditch.
I was addressing the SEC’s response to Merrills Motion to Release funds…. which was the subject of Oz’s article and also of Naz’s comment. None of your or LRMs crapping on addressed the substance of the SEC’s argument at all.
That’s right. The complaint or an affidavit substantiates probable cause, which leads an arrest warrant which leads to an arrest. The government then has a statutory period in which to have a bail hearing and then bring charges.
Procedures vary between states and federal.
In spite of what you think and hear and read the actual formal charging in Federal Court can not be brought until there is a grand jury indictment and that has not taken place yet.
This is why the SEC’s position is that Merril does not need an extraordinary amount of additional money released to him to pay a lawyer to defend charges…..because under the Federal Rules he has not even been charged and can’t be until the grand jury brings forth an indictment.
This is what lawyers do… they argue. If you want consistency buy a blender.
To prevent any further clogging of the blog, I think I might just stick with the USDOJ US Attorneys’ office getting it right, press release or no press release and ignore the opinions of an anonymous internet blogger
Like I said its your prerogative to wallow where you will. Below is the SEC response to Merrill’s Motion for Release of funds. Its the SEC position, not mine.
“he cannot state whether or not he will have a criminal case to defend.”
Wallow on boys.
Ok so I’ll use the word charged in the context that Merrill was arrested and charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud. My understanding is that he now has a right to a Speedy Trial or the charges need to be dropped UNLESS he waives his right to a Speedy Trial.
From the SEC response as stated in the article above:
So how long does the government have to indict Merrill under the Speedy Trial Act?
And what is the difference between conspiracy to commit wire fraud and committing wire fraud?
I have already accepted that Merrill may not have been charged in Hoss’ interpretation of the word “charged”. But you can’t expect me to post 2 versions in each and every post, i.e. I can’t post long explanations about how you have interpreted it in every post. I have briefly referred to it as some type of “belief system”.
To be honest, I’m unable to recognize parts of your ideas. I’m able to recognize that you strongly believe in those ideas, but I’m unable to recognize some logical explanations.
According to the court document (opposition against Motion to release funds), the Public Prosecutor clearly see Merrill as “charged, but not yet indicted”.
You don’t see it the same way, you see it like “
Although the Defendant has been charged by criminal complaint,he has not yet been indicted, so he can’t have been charged either”.Now you want the World to see it the same way you do. Life doesn’t work that way, the World won’t suddenly adjust itself to match your “World View”.
Its not my view its the position of the SEC as stated in Opposition against Motion to release funds. The prosecutors own words were…
Unless you can explain that statement you got nothin’ to say.
Patrick Pretty said the government had 30 days, plus there was a negotioated 45 day extension. That indicates indictment needs to be done by around around 7/24.
Unsure how soon thereafter the arraignment (formal charging) has to take place. I thought I read 10 days after a True Bill was delivered by the grand jury.
They would have to release him from custody whether the charges would have to be dropped is a matter of some debate.
I listed some time limits in post #32 (original source in post #26):
But you can’t read it like a Bible, the right to speedy trial is primarily meant to protect against tactical delays from the prosecution, e.g. tactical delays to get a more solid case against the defendant.
There’s a 70 day rule and a 180 day rule. And then there are tens of rules for acceptable delays, e.g. because a case may be complicated and simply need more time than an average case (many witnesses, many victims, etc.).
@Hoss
Here’s how Wikipedia describes “Criminal charges”:
Merrill may not have been criminally charged in your definition of “charged”, but that doesn’t mean people were incorrect about it when they pointed out some logical errors.
complaint
information
indictment
You asked me what I “meant.” I meant the charges or charging document that issued after indictment as it is the only one of the several forms that is relevant and consistent with the position the SEC took in their Opposition to the Motion for Release of Funds. It is also consistent with Federal Rules of Procedure.
Whether Merrill was “charged” at the time of arrest or complaint does not matter here. What matters is the charge by indictment that has yet to be issued, and that is what the SEC was talking about and what I was commenting on until you drug the conversation into your typical vortex of confusion.
No more on this topic, please
@Hoss
The discussion started when you INSISTED that Merrill only had been arrested (not charged). It started because of all the details you added to the replies to support your own viewpoint.
It would probably have been easier to understand if you clearly had identified your meaning, e.g. “My focus was on the type of charges normally associated with an indictment. It wasn’t on the type of charges normally associated with a complaint. According to that viewpoint, Merrill hasn’t been criminally charged yet”.
“According to that viewpoint” points back to that it is about a specific viewpoint or idea. People use ideas like that all the time. “According to Federal Rules” points to an official source, giving an impression that the viewpoint actually is supported by some rules. That wasn’t a proper argument to use.
It would have been easier to understand if you had been following the flow of the conversation and the logic involved rather than poaching. You poached, you missed. End of story. Your assumptions were your own.
After reading about Carmen M. Ortiz, United States Attourney, I got the impression the Fed’s weren’t just bringing out the big guns but a cannon.
“Telexfweeeee….you should be afwaid, vewy vewy affwaid”
It appears that all the top teir kept it “All in the Family”. Jim and the Carlos’s obviously had their wifey’s involved.
Wenzeler drove to Canada with his daughter so “most likely” she knew somthing was up.
Sloan’s mother obviously benefitted from the new condo Sloan bragged about buying her. Labriola had his wife and college age kids playing place the add as well.
There should be some interesting conversations around the “Thanks Giving” tables this year.
Why would Merrill lawyers back a 45 day extension? That would just allow the SEC to build a more solid case against them.
I don’t remember the actual document that allowed for an extension but, trying to think as a lawyer, I would never give the authorities more time than is required under the law.
I think it bears recalling that this extension was granted when Merrill was desperately trying to negotiate a bail package. He was probably in a giving mood.
I am not going to try and prove anything but I agree with you that Merrill was charged by complaint.
Whether he faces the charges is to be determined.