OneCoin top investors paid millions to join?
Disclosure is something often overlooked in the promotion of MLM opportunities.
In an industry where you’re actively promoting a business opportunity on the premise that anyone can be successful, disclosure of anything that might skew that representation is important.
Failure to do so is not only dishonest but also a prime target for regulatory investigation.
About two weeks ago, Angelina Lazar began commenting on one of BehindMLM’s OneCoin articles.
Oz, I owe you an apology . . .
I will read through all this new information on the switching up of banks you have provided here. – But it appears YOU are RIGHT and I was WRONG, Ozzie-Oz….
I didn’t recall having any communication with Lazar prior to her apology, so I was left a little confused.
Turns out Lazar was a fairly prominent OneCoin investor, who’d built a downline under the Team Charisma moniker.
Puportedly Lazar was conducting a OneCoin recruitment event in Dubai, when she was approached by a Dubai International Finance Center (DIFC) agent.
The other day, I STARTED to do a presentation on OneCoin as a Cryptocurrency at a Russian Business Club at Gloria Hotel. There was an agent from DIFC there here in Dubai.
I thought he was rude as can be and way off base. And yes, he was and is rude as can be, but was not as far off base, as I thought.
Only partially… It seems he actually KNEW more than me about the whole structure of OneCoin.
That, among other things, triggered open dissent against OneCoin from Lazar.
It is extremely important to me that the business opportunity is rock solid, the management team and board of directors integritous with serious expertise, the comp plan sustainable, and everything transparent and legal-proper.
I was hurt before in the past when all that wasn’t in place, so have an eye for this sort of thing.
So, what to my wondering eyes did appear, but some loop holes. Loop holes that I need to see plugged up, and corrections made.
This naturally hasn’t gone too well with Lazar’s OneCoin upline or other OneCoin investors.
Please, Guys,
Feel most free to DELETE ME & BLOCK ME if you care not for the truth and don’t want to be enlightened!
I MUST do BUSINESS ONLY RIGHTEOUSLY & HONESTLY!
If something is amiss, of course, I must warn people, and share the correct information to protect others with. YES… on Facebook! And YES…. on MY OWN TEAM PAGE where NO… I don’t need to CONSULT WITH YOU before doing so.
All the experts SEE THROUGH the OneCoin scam CLEARLY!
Ruja is a FRONT and part and parcel of a criminal organization.
They are SERIOUS SERIAL FRAUDSTERS!
Please forgive me for even promoting it.
I was just believing my upline & the Company but they are SCATHING liars!
They do not even SEEK to do ANYTHING legally!The ONLY people that can REMAIN in this Company
are those who are UNINTELLECTUAL, BLIND, IN DENIAL & GULLIBLE, at best,and at worst, those who are HEARTLESS, UNSCRUPULOUS, SEETHING LIARS & 100% UNCONSCIONABLE!
There is NO INBETWEEN.
We here at BehindMLM have been monitoring the situation, with posts on Lazar’s Team Charisma Facebook page made in the last 24 hours catching our attention.
14 hours ago, a post appeared on the Team Charisma Facebook page with information about Ruja Ignatova’s MLM history.
Ruja Ignatova, the Independent Representative of BIGCOIN, who copied their business model along with SEBASTIAN GREENDWOOD & NIGEL ALLEN to form:
ONECOIN / NOCOIN!
She is NO expert, HAS NOT WRITTEN ANY BOOK about CRYPTOCURRENCY, but PLAGIARIZED ONE, is NOT LEGIT, and is NOT SPEAKING THE TRUTH AT ALL ABOUT ANYTHING!
She said she NEVER DID A NETWORK MARKETING COMPANY BEFORE… but here she is PROMOTING BIGCOIN which she was a MEMBER OF RIGHT BEFORE COPYING their business model to create the OneCoin SCAM!
Next Lazar opened fire on Juha Parhiala, purportedly the top-earner in OneCoin.
PARTNERS IN CRIME . . . Partners in Business. . . Liar with Liar . . . SHAM IMAGE with SHAM IMAGE embrace each other:
A PERFECT MATCH, I say!
Voila! Here he is: Juha Parhiala: Ruja’s Business Partner!
As the story line goes….
that Juha is … my, my, my…. earning a whopping $4M per month as an Independent Networker, so COME ON IN, folks!
It’s the BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD… and YOU, TOO, can EARN!But this is NOT TRUE at all!
Juha is part OWNER of OneCoin! And this is ALL JUST A FACADE to fool you! I mean… AND THIS is yet ANOTHER facade!
To the best of my knowledge, Parhiala has never publicly disclosed an ownership stake in OneCoin.
This is just a PLOY to interest the masses into coming in OneCoin, making it SEEM like OneCoin earners have MORE POTENTIAL than an Amway, which didn’t have this kind of success record and which is 60 years old, or any other network marketing company, for that matter!
ONE BIG FAT-FAT Lie!
Next up on the OneCoin chopping block? Ted Nuyten (right) and Daniel Grenon.
Citing a fluff piece published in Nuyten’s Business For Home blog, Lazar quips:
This Ted Nuyten must have been PAID SO MUCH for publishing ALL THESE FLAGRANT LIES, STORY after STORY…. without even bothering to do ANY WHICH DUE DILIGENCE!
The title should read (if I wrote it):
ANTI-LEADER & ORGANO TRAITOR PAID $1M TO DEFECT & JOIN SCAM COMPANY ONECOIN
The last post on the Team Charisma page, made 13 hours ago, again takes aim at Nuyten and BusinessForHome. This time Igor Alberts is outed as a paid shill:
Here’s ANOTHER BOGUS ‘LEADER’ guys!
IGOR ALBERTS, ALSO, was paid $1M to join SCAM OPERATION ONECOIN!
So….. NO… he did NOT LEGITIMATELY HIT $95K per month!
He had one leg built too, and $1M in his pocket to catapult him here! So don’t mind what Ted says . . .
TED… TED.. IS SICK IN THE HEAD! . . . .
First and foremost, let me be clear: The notion that an MLM company paying someone to join is not the issue here. Rather it’s the lack of disclosure regarding the compensation that’s the problem.
The OneCoin investors Lazar has outed regularly appear on BusinessForHome as quantifiable OneCoin success stories. Invariable the articles Ted Nuyten writes for OneCoin are shared on social media and used to further promote the scheme.
The problem is, if these investors were paid and OneCoin is subsidizing their alleged “success”, a lack of disclosure means the public aren’t being given an accurate representation of OneCoin’s top investors.
By withholding the full story behind these OneCoin leader’s dealings with the company, OneCoin, through Nuyten’s BusinessForHome, are misrepresenting what investors can expect if they sign up.
Not providing full disclosure is illegal in the US, a country OneCoin fled amidst concerns it was operating a Ponzi scheme.
As for Ted Nuyten, BehindMLM has previously uncovered BusinessForHome’s “pay for content” scheme. How much OneCoin has paid for coverage in BusinessForHome has, not surprisingly, also never been disclosed.
On the flip-side, Lazar hasn’t provided a source for any of her claims thus far. In early April, Lazar appears to have attached Team Charisma to the FutureNet Ponzi scheme:
Whether or not Team Charisma are still promoting FutureNet is unclear.
Lazar has signed off the most recent Team Charisma Facebook post with:
You think I’m done?
– O no… not I! . . .
Stay tuned…
Drama… or Melodrama?
Hi, I asked this in a previous thread about Onecoin but no answer yet.
I wanted to know if there is any way that behindmlm or us as individuals can request Facebook to shut down the Onecoin page on the basis that it facilitates criminal activity?
1) Facebook are notoriously reluctant to shut down pages.
2) They require “proof” of illegal activity from a regulatory agency.
3) They have no capacity (or wish) to investigate every complaint.
4) There are billions of accounts and hundreds of thousands, if not millions of complaints and / or suspect FB pages. Consequently investigation of any type takes months or years to complete.
Good to see this posted. I was tipped off to Angelina’s page several days ago by _________ (an ally) who has finally, but successfully infiltrated the ranks and groups of Onecon (without having joined).
Like myself and others, he had been blocked by nearly all groups on FB after posting FACTS and challenges on various OC pages.
He thus created various fictitious FB accounts, nourishing them for sometime, in order to successfully gain entry and leave the proverbial back door opened for monitoring the chatter.
From what I see, Angelina respects her reputation within the MLM space (some of which, of course, IS legitimate). She has asked strong questions and has taken the unpopular (and un profitable path) of dissent.
I consider Angelina an “ally” and someone who is stirring the pot – in a good way!
I look fwd to some interesting developments!
There are also videos showing that Ruja was indeed heavily linked to Bigcoin:
kusetukset.blogspot.fi/2016/05/ruja-ignatova-was-part-of-bigcoin-scam.html
Being someone who was in the same position as Angelina when I had found out that UFUN and their so called UTOKENS were nothing more than a scam I can relate to how she is feeling.
It takes a very strong and honest person to admit when they have been fooled and to try and warn their team. I commend you Angelina.
Now if only Ken Labine would finally admit that this is a scam and also try to warn others instead of recruiting and hurting others…But for some reason I dont see him taking the high road.
Just saw this on Facebook….
When are these OneCoin pimps gonna finally wake up!!! Saying that this PROVES the OneCoin concept is just utterly ridiculous!
Oz….I just found this….would like your thoughts…
Check out this old scam site: sabway.biz/. Does it look familiar?
See also this part sabway.biz/news/details/dr-2.html. So Ruja Ignatova is behind that business. Note also that bottom of that previous page reads “© onecoin.eu”, so both
Sabway and OneCoin use the same web location! You may also google “Ruja Ignatova BigCoin”.
Got to have the best foot forward if you want your minions to follow you to the next show..
@Oz, Angelina Lazar is in fact apologising to me, but has wrongly assumed that you and I are the same person. Angelina and I have had numerous exchanges on YouTube going back to March 16th. I am the one who has woken her up to this scam.
@Angelina Lazar, aka QoS, please confirm the above.
The above sounds about right, however Ms. Lazar is no innocent victim, and has a history of running her own questionable schemes*
*offers not valid in Illinois
Is it just me, or has OneCoin’s Facebook page disappeared? I am receiving the message “Sorry, this content isn’t available at the moment”
It’s still there.
You need to login to see it, though
@Jodi
Not sure if Sabway is a standalone business, but the information on that page sounds like its describing OneCoin in its early stages.
Funny how they actually refer to the coins as points. OneCoins were always Ponzi points, at least back then they weren’t incorrectly claiming it to be a cryptocurrency.
@OzD
Thanks for clearing that up. Wasn’t thinking too hard about it but it was doing my head in a bit… 😀
Onecoin’s site was clearly built up on the same layout as Sabway’s and maybe even in the same server at some point. Check out these:
sabway.biz/welcome/products.html
sabway.biz/page/details/opportunity.html
sabway.biz/news/details/dr-2.html
Agreed
I ditched my FaceBook account years ago. No doubt anything interesting on their FaceBook will be posted here.
You’ll need a clear head for all the upcoming OneCoin drama, lol.
And on Ms. Lazar’s latest Onecoin mic drop posting, she reveals her latest mystery opportunity.
The anonymous leader who has found another successful ‘opportunity’ that has been successful for over a year..
Ms. Lazar, is there a reason you only travel between countries which don’t have extradition agreements with the USA? Warrants perhaps?
I see some people pretend to know something they don’t. So let me clarify.
I have no questionable schemes, neither have I ever!
The network marketing industry is full of disintegritous low-life, often that USE others who HAVE influence to bring THEM money, but THEY don’t have that kind of integrity!
Such was the case with FX Trainer, where I was one of the top 25 leaders in the Company! I, therefore, earned an Alaskan Cruise, which I always wanted to go on, but the Company never let me because I EXPOSED the CEO for the CROOK he was, too!… It ALWAYS lands on ME! Just my FATE!
It was all fluff they offered for training, and NO REAL TRADING on HOW to trade in the FOREX market! I exposed the Chinese CEO (another mafiozo), and that website got 5,000 hits that month! The owner of the site was threatened and took it down.
All the leaders were QUIET AS MOUSE (JUST like in OneCoin, breathing not a word)! It was ONLY ME, who exposed the MisManagement! All the employees were either PROMOTED with a raise (if they shut up) or FIRED, if they didn’t! So again… it was ONLY ME!
Every week, FX Trainer had a bogus trading contest. Whoever supposedly earned the most would win money. Every week, though, the CEO came up with a BOGUS NAME, and had the CFO, who was his GIRLFRIEND cut the check, and HE CASHED IT!
I was doing the presentations in Chicago too, and brought Chicago to be the FASTEST growing city in all of North America! So I knew people came in because they TRUSTED ME! So I made sure they GOT what they paid for!
I did the training along with 2 of my vice presidents (I just opened up a new company, Charismatic Exchange). So the Company’s receiving $1,000-$3,000 for the training, and I’m doing the training with my guys, Paul & Dan! …
After several months, they asked: “Angelina… how long are we gonna’ be doin’ this?”, as it made NO BUSINESS SENSE! I just made sure EVERYONE who TRUSTED ME got what they paid for so I didn’t hurt anyone!
I was the one hurt. And I left after I did that! .. Only something a former nun could do. No one else WOULD, believe me!
When it all hit! … FX Trainer hired the largest law firm in America, Baker & McKenzie and came up with … not 1.. but 76 BOGUS POINTS AGAINST ME! They went after me and tried to take me down bigtime because I had the guts to expose them!
They had their own guy in FX Trainer from the SEC, who went after me. They tried for 3 years to take me down, and couldn’t as I watched to do everything right!
So, no OZ….. I don’t have any which schemes I run, watch that you speak only the God-honest Truth as I have ZERO tolerance for anything else!
This is WHY I get myself into hot water….. as the culprits HATE when I do that! I am a KNOWN WHISTLE-BLOWER! But you’ll find out more about that later, I’m sure . . .
Ok, yes, whoever it was… it was Ozzie-Oz then and this other guy that really opened my eyes! THANK YOU, BOTH! Listen… I tell you something interesting, which you may find amusing, but here it is, all the same ……
The REASON…. I was doing SO MUCH RESEARCH on OneCoin initially was to be able to SOCK IT TO YOU, OZZIE-OZ!….. I smile as I write…. Well, you and others!…. I just thought Ruja was like me… fighting for the little guy…. fighting the insidious international banksters….
I am an ardent Orthodox Christian (to say the utmost least) and Defender of Human Rights (worldwide…. no.. no warrants, Ozzie-Oz… but a GLOBAL MISSION), and I’ve BEEN THROUGH that dark side trying to take me down, as a result, so I just NATURALLY ASSUMED she was going through the same thing, and was going to RUSH to her rescue!
When…… wowsio…… I discovered there is TRUTH to what you say. And as SOON as THAT became CLEAR as DAY, I had to CONFESS IT PUBLICLY and ENLIGHTEN and WARN EVERYONE!
As for BEING a OneCoin Investor, Ozzie-Oz… no, I’m not. I did not put a dime into it. And I did NOT sign up ANYONE! I was prepared to bring in some BIG LEADERS to launch COUNTRIES, when ALL the information hit!
So ALL my sideline and ALL my upline think I’m an infiltrated MOLE that put up a BIG SHOW to get INSIDE INFO to LAMBAST THEM and take them down from within, and that I’m paid who-knows-what by who-knows-who to do so….
and then, there are others, who come up with ANYTHING they think they can sling mud at me with ,
and that’s the THANKS I get for EXPOSING OneCoin!
But c’est la vie.. This is old hat for me…. It ALWAYS lands on ME, as people are usually gutless worms, and just bow out, speak not, think not, say not. But that’s not ME!
I am an Opinions Leader, a Defender of Human Rights and God’s Warrior, to say the least. . .
I do what I do because that’s what I was born for. So this is neither the first or the last of me…. You will put me in perspective as time goes on. Right now, Ozzie-Oz…. GO FIND TOTO!
Love & Best!
xo~A
Aha… as for Futurenet, if that’s a scam, not interested, in the least…
I just signed up for free to have a look as Mohammed, a former Stanford University Instructor & Samsung-Award winning Animator just told me about it, so I thought it was harmless!
Didn’t do a THING with it, neither had the time to check it out!
On THIS ONE, though, I’ll take YOUR word for it, and will just delete. (I woulda’ figured it out, though, rest assured . . . I always do)! So don’t be making nasty presumptions that are outta’ line or make SOMETHING out of NOTHING, Ozzie-O!
When we SPEAK, we need to NAIL IT!
– Or we ASK!
GOT IT?
That goes for YOU & the DIFC Agent!
All in all, thanks for the quasi-vote of confidence and half-hearted compliments. They are very SWEET!
Just don’t play KNOW-IT-ALLS, Oz!
– Question objectively!
Get REAL answers!
DONT make ASSUMPTIONS!
It’s NOT cool, NOT righteous, NOT fair,
and really is hitting below the belt.
All in all, thanks Ozzie-O!
ruff-ruff-ruff!….
~> Someone loves you very much, and is still looking for you….
Go give ‘im some love & receive some, Oz n’ come back nice n’ refreshed!
Kindest Regards…
And thanks for all your research.
You and your Oz-Clone.
You are both MIGHTY FINE CHAPS in my book!
GRACIE, SIGNORI!
Best & God Bless!
xo~A.
Angela I always base my analysis on the business model. Between Conligus, OneCoin and FutureNet, I think you might want to start doing the same…
Angelina, it usually only takes one person within a company to blow the whistle when all others stay quiet about the wrong doings they experience.
I can smell the passion you share in your writing about the experience you’ve had with OC.
Maybe you could serve many more by exposing the schemers and scammers popping up daily to steal victim’s money.
Much like Oz does here.
You have the knack for getting your point across clearly, I must say.
Oz you are far too kind.
What a piece of work she is. No way someone can be ‘team anything’ in network marketing and be genuine. They know too much.
Sounds like instead of the usual ‘victim’ exit strategy scammers use, this one uses ‘whistleblower’.
Question: Can the victims of the OneCoin Ponzi Scheme here in the USA sue their uplines to collect the money they collected after the scheme collapses or is closed down by the regulators?
It’s doubtful investors can go after the company since OneCoin is based out Romania. Even today, after all of the recent news has come to light, top OneCoin Pumper continue to promote OC.
I have yet to see ONE SINGLE POST on their Facebook pages about ANY of the recent stories about the company.
Since OneCoin is not even registered to do business here in the USA, I believe their victims will have a strong case against them.
Since OneCoin is about DONE, it’s time to discuss the next phase:
1. Regulatory Action
2. Civil Lawsuits
3. Clawbacks
Anyone else care to offer their opinions on this topic.
So why are you involved in the network marketing industry at all?
The sort of research you should have been doing BEFORE you did a single OneCoin presentation.
Full credit to you for doing that.
But you were trying to sign people up at /signup/Teamcharisma4, /signup/Teamcharisma5, /signup/Teamcharisma6, and, /signup/Teamcharisma7.
WRONGO, again, Ozzie-Oz!
I did NOTHING with those positions!
I gave that back to Romeo.
– NOT INTERESTED!
People shoved me in so quickly, just like they rushed me to do a presentation before I even attended one just as they were trying to rush me to sign up people; but I did not allow anyone to rush me to do the latter. I told them I am methodical in what I do. And the whole time continued my research. So that’s that.
Ok, got a new tidbit today. Another person who decided NOT to DO OC anymore, was offered BIG MONEY to continue, anyway, in the business and continue bringing people into OC, I just found out! Will get the full details from that person, then revert back.
These scammer & criminal anti-leaders are DESPERATE, and their offers are EXORBITANT; they are AGGRESSIVE & DANGEROUS!
I was warned NOT to go to Corporate in Bulgaria, or I may never come back. The creatures behind OC are NOT innocent in the least, and are of the underworld, let me tell you! They are decrepit sinister low-life, with NO CONSCIENCES!
And aside from the warnings I received, I STILL ALWAYS MUST DO WHAT’S RIGHT and SPEAK THE TRUTH! This is NOT a CORPORATE ENTITY, but a CRIMINAL UNDERGROUND ORGANIZATION!
These people try to RUSH people, CAJOLE people, BRIBE people and BUILD OUT 1 LEG FOR THEM in order to SOLIDFY them, and get them COMMITTED and ENSLAVED, and force them to BUILD it out! They don’t want ANYONE asking the RIGHT questions, refuse to ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS; they just want you OUT and to SHUT UP if you’re not interested! THIS is their m.o. . . .
Will come back with particulars on the latest who was offered $30,000 to STAY and BUILD once they found out it was a SCAM!
Thanks, Dave! Appreciate it, buddy. Good to see SOMEONE here has a PURE HEART!
As for nasty Char, I have zero tolerance for jaded low-life. – ZERO!
Network marketing is an IDEAL business model when ALL the elements are IN PERFECT PLACE; namely, unique and valuable, exciting products with perfect price points, a sustainable & lucrative comp plan, and an integritous management team!
No sin in that, Ozzie-Oz, so don’t even TRY to make that something nasty & dirty! It’s just SMART & SAVVY, and an OPTIMAL way to earn an income when you’re a marketing pro!
Only a fool would pass that up, and decide to do something LESS-THAN… Makes no sense your idle banter! So GET REAL!
Take yer loaded gun, aim and shoot at the target.. instead of shooting in circles. Makes no sense! You need to be GOAL-ORIENTED, instead of running around like a chicken with your head cut off.
Just FOLLOW the yellow brick road. It’s a STRAIGHT PATH, Oz, and doesn’t run in circles . . .
Over & out!
Will come back with more info tomorrow at: facebook.com/teamcharisma.onecoin
for anyone with pure intentions, an objective mind, a real truth-seeker and righteous soul, who wants REAL information about this UN-REAL opportunity! Low-life can just go their way with their wayward thoughts and wayward shots! I’ll shoot right back, and let the chips fall where they may . . .
A.L.
@Angelina Lazar-
Why are you capitalizing some words like you’re shouting? You really don’t have to do that in order to make a point.
How many would you say joined because they trusted you and your judgment?
Angelina,
So how did this all play out? Not wanted for fraud in Illinois?
nolink://bit.ly/1TxIIma
Who gives a rat’s ass what YOU will tolerate. Upline speak will get you no where here.
Also, you have no idea who I am, but I will say this. You can call me anything you want as long as you don’t accuse me of being a network marketer. Now that would be an insult.
Regarding your crapping on about MLM, I’ll let statistical data, the FTC, oh and your choices thus far, address that.
Now go out like a good little network marketer and sell some soap or something to your neighbors.
Guys, please. Let’s stop the name calling and stick to the mission: shutting down this ponzi with the mountains of more frequently flowing evidence and getting Ruja and her minions prosecuted.
Angelina was a recently recruited Onecon Leader who is actively making many enemies at the ponzi company now and calling out the lies from the inside, even with threats of physical harm either real or implied.
At least give her that. She could have left silently and without incident, but chose the less peaceful and greater friction: further exposing the scam FROM INSIDE! That’s gotta be worth something.
Let’s get back to business and not be distracted. Angelina is certainly don’t the right thing NOW. That is what is relevant to this mission at hand.
Thank you Angelina for going against the grain on this one. Keep up the good work.
She is not “recently recruited” – in fact, she has been shilling OneCoin for several months. She’s also has pushed Jeunesse and World Global Network to her followers. And let’s not forget the FOREX scam in Illinois. (I posted a link to the PDF earlier, but it looks like traffic has hosed their web server but for the curious who cant see the pdf, I offer this snippet.)
The investor never got his money back, and Lazar never responded to subpoenas.
This is the same game that Faith Sloan plays with her followers once she is able to identify the sinking ship. Play the victim and hopefully your downline will stick around for the next opportunity.
I’ll give her some credit for dishing some dirt on Onecoin – However on initial evaluation, she’s just greasing the wheels to the next great big thing. People researching her and her group also have a right to know about that as well.
Hi Ken!
On another note – another hilarious Ken Labine live cast on youtube now.
nolink://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knj0d1m57hM
Me and the other guy (2 total) watching are having a great time!
I just tuned in for a few minutes. He’s blabbing about OneCoin copying Sabway.
Uh… OneCoin is Sabway. They just didn’t follow-through with the name and stuck with OneCoin (for whatever reason). Both the Sabway and OneCoin websites were run parallel by OneCoin, again for whatever reason.
Tuning out because if that’s a one or two minute sample… the rest of it is probably going to be equally as twisted.
Good grief. The boy just doesn’t get it.
His needle is stuck on his incorrect interpretation of your statements, thinking you claimed that OC copied Sabway.
The poor lad can’t seem to comprehend that you’re stating that both sites were operated by OC.
That’s the way cranks argue… It’s a strawman.
Ken Labine’s reasoning reminds a lot of conspiracy theoretics explaining how the moon landings were hoaxed.
Interesting that the new facebook photos of the Macau event don’t show any audience. They usually try to capture a room full of people.
imgur.com/a/6k277
Source: facebook.com/jacky.rada.5?fref=pb&hc_location=profile_browser
Or how the natural cure / antivax quacks denying medicine to push their own alternative medicine. Strawman all the way.
Too bad there aren’t some police in those pictures of the crowd, to arrest them.
diging up a little more, shows us her child charity foundation (very few people in the audience as well).
I think it has bencome time to start a VPS on just Ms. Lazar and see what I am able to find. been concentrating on OC for so long new, might be just worth the work.
Heading to Las Vegas later in the week and will swing by the offices. With any lock, someone there will know something.
Well, Ken did respond to Angelina and let’s just say he wasn’t moved by her plea for him to do real due diligence and change his ways.
If you would like to read his response, it was posted at RS in a thread with his name. Interesting read, and it should be required reading fro all psych majors.
@Lyndell
What is RS (sorry) and can you provide a link?
Also, I am hoping to get some confirmation in writing to what some of the One World Fraudation “Partners” have stated about NOT being partners with OWF.
Additionally, the update on the Onecon China Union Pay credit card seems to be this: Again, it is only a pre-paid debit caard, and Onecoin Member Lucyna Piekarek said the following:
Additionally, the card relationship appears to be between “One Net” – one of OC’s shell companies. The card is referred to as “ONE NET UPI CARDS “in association with UnonPay.”
Also, someone else told me that OC is charging 100 Euro for the card and it has similar fees to their last one.
Not all of this information really makes sense, however, and the quote above may be incorrect. I dunno.
There is more about the cards, the Macau Event, a new “Opportunity” to receive an additional split if you upgrade to the Infinity Package (something like $33,300!!!!!!) and a bunch more ponzi Kool-Aid funny stuff
Here is the link for someone smarter than me to make sense of this hogwash: us9.campaign-archive2.com/?u=cf9659fd672fe664d487e7e1b&id=df7a54bca4&e=b2f474aa28
I ran the photo doing the rounds through error level analysis, it shows signs of being photoshopped.
Also they’ve registered under the name “One Net”. This is going to be the non-Chinese banks all over again, where after a few weeks they realize One Net = One Coin.
One Coin is under investigation in China and banks there have been instructed not to do with business with cryptocurrency related businesses (including Ponzi points faux cryptocurrencies).
Once China Union Pay realize they’ve been duped, you know what happens then. Cards will stop working and there will be complete silence from OneCoin.
On the plus side, the cards only work in China so it’s likely that only Chinese OneCoin investors will sign up for them.
Once obtained, that list of investors should assist authorities in their investigation.
Talking of “top investors” I see Deppisch is pushing this, ‘The Wealth Code’….man, what a tacky video!
(Ozedit: affiliate link removed)
Did BigCoin appear on an External Exchange and then disappear… ??
I don’t think BigCoin did. BNA might have though.
Anything BigCoin did that worked towards releasing their Ponzi points to the public was a disaster. That’s why OneCoin don’t do it.
Exactly, because releasing those “Coins” to the public would mean centralized control would be LOST, and the scheme can ONLY works with full centralized control over EVERYTHING because it’s cult tactic: information control.
“We control the horizontal, we control the vertical” — Twilight Zone
Oh c’mon…Outer Limits 🙂
Well, less than a month until the London Event.
Maybe they’ll put at least a few hundred of those 100K+ merchants ready to accept OneCoin in play before then.
The mission should be shutting down all Ponzis.
I’ll say it again. Tim, your work on OneCoin is commendable, but I’m not sure you are comprehending the entire picture.
I saw on Facebook that you are now ‘wowing’ scammer, and well known to behind MLM readers, Bob Woods. You’ve really got to get a better grip on how the scam community works or you are doing a disservice.
Entertaining the likes of Tom McMurrain, Angelina Lazar, and now Bob Woods is not the way to do it. They are using you and their intentions are self-serving.
facebook.com/teamcharisma.onecoin (Bob Woods posting there)
One Coin is one of so many. Why not use your wonderful energy to cast a wider net? This means NOT enabling and crediting ponzi pimps that will move to the next ponzi du jour.
Might as well call Bob Woods a poor man’s Dr. Ruja.
Bob Woods had his own version of OneCoin.
https://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/global-currency-reserve-review-2999-95-a-month-mining/
https://behindmlm.com/companies/global-currency-reserve/global-currency-reserve-abandon-gcr-coin/
@Char Thanks for the advice.
As you can probably tell, I am more or less a stranger/ naive to this very strange parrallel word called the MLM space.
I took Bob’s credentials from his LinkedIn/ notable tech background. I copy/ pasted his critique of the Ruja Malaysia presentation onto another Onecoin page, and received the same response you gave, pretty much. I remember seeing something on Behind MLM about GCR coin(?). Was that his? (anyone have a link?)
Anyway, take it for what it’s worth.
The “Wow” comment is in regards to his technical breakdown of how blockchains and mining process, as he nails it.
He also described pretty clearly that points purchase coins at a set rate, which is contradictory to actual mining, as mining itself, is unpredictable.
Furthermore, he discussed the ridiculous of Ruja’s claims about “mining difficulty” within a closed loop system, and that her assertations showed how little she knows even about algoritmic computation and difficulty (stating that every Onecoin, based upon Ruja’s own description) could be just as easily created (and I’m convinced it is) on a single laptop of Ruja.
I assumed his credibility in the tech space more powerfully represented an opinion that my own, only because, while knowing crypto pretty darn well, I do not have credentials in IT, programming, coding, development, security, etc., for which it would be easy to dismiss my “opinion” – but which it seems like he does actually have an intense background in.
Also, FYI: Once I read your guys post about Tom, I never again reached out to him.
Tom had offered me an interview on his program, etc., but after looking at your webpage, I told him that for someone who does have SOME (new) knowledge of crypto/ blocchain tech but was STILL pimping Onecoin, after clearly having the logical capability to see through the lies, that this was a total conflict of interest for my legitimate involvement in the crypto space and that I was not interested in any exposure tied to ANY OC affiliate channels.
I’m not interested in combating most MLM scams, as I simply don’t have the bandwidth (OC is already an overload – lol) OR really the knowledge of the space.
HOWEVER, as you can tell, I am very protective of the REAL crypto community and industry and will try to be an eyes, ears and mouth for helping how I can.
In conclusion, I can’t follow everything, and have only had a little downtime from the main projects I’ve been working on recently (as we are waiting on results from our devs before being able to take the next step). But, as crypt/ MLM hybrid scams continue to arise, please feel free to ping me at: Timo@ezCoinAccess.com
(on a funny side note: my company name: “ezCoinAccess” sounds MLM-ish now. Lol. Which I never would have even thought of had I not Googled OC 14 months ago, found Oz and continued following this site.
But, just FYI: the company was started to deploy bitcoin ATM’s [BTM’s] and the name also aligned with some of the bitcoin projects I have been working on in Africa with fellow bitcoiners over the past 2 1/2 year)
🙂