OneCoin now laundering funds directly through affiliates
OneCoin’s ongoing banking problems have taken a sinister turn, with the company potentially shifting criminal liability onto some of its affiliates.
After losing their last bank account, OneCoin was unable to secure a legitimate banking channel to process deposited affiliate investments.
This quickly lead to grapevine promises of a solution “coming soon”.
Recently the OneCoin backoffice has been updated to reflect a solution, with select affiliates themselves processing new OneCoin investment deposits.
The OneCoin backoffice now displays the following message when an affiliate attempts to deposit funds via bank wire:
Following your bank wire request to purchase the Starter package, the OneLife team would like to kindly refer you to an official OneLife member for your region who will handle the payment for you.
This procedure is necessary so that we can ensure that your payment will get processed effectively and on time.
You can use the bank wire payment by contacting distributor:
Depending on the country the affiliate wishing to deposit funds is made, a different email address is provided for contact.
The email addresses are numeric in nature and do not disclose the chosen OneCoin affiliate(s) managing them.
Whether affiliates who contact the provided email addresses are made aware which OneCoin affiliate they are depositing funds with is unclear.
This turn of events adds a level of organized crime to OneCoin’s already fraudulent business model. Local affiliates who have signed up to handle OneCoin investment payments are now operatives in a global money laundering scheme.
This separates them from regular OneCoin affiliates, who progress no further than investors in the scheme.
And if you’re wondering why a OneCoin affiliate might take on potential criminal liability, there’s likely a commission attached to each payment processed. Either that or secret backroom deals will see base-salaries paid out to affiliates willing to expose themselves.
Either way the goal appears to be to distribute incoming deposits into OneCoin, so as not to trip global money laundering filters as easily.
It’s much easier to replace an affiliate who ruins their own banking relationships in a country with another affiliate, than OneCoin itself having to create bogus shell companies to temporarily fool banks.
How this system will work in the long-term is unclear.
I figure eventually affiliates who have signed up to accept payments will have their own accounts shut down. What happens then remains to be seen.
Lets put here also those affiliate addresses known so far:
UK: distributor13(at)onelife.eu
Italy: distributor12(at)onelife.eu
Finland: distributor7(at)onelife.eu
many countries which have issued warnings about onecoin, were unable to launch proper investigations into the scam, as onecoin had no ‘official’ presence in that country.
these distributors who are collecting payments for onecoin, now become official representatives for onecoin in that country, and the regulators have a place to begin investigations.
also, what happens if a distributor collects payments and does not forward them to onecoin? being a ponzi scam onecoin can hardly register a complaint against such a distributor. there is a lot of ‘trust’ involved in setting up such a loose collection system.
things are now so bad that ruja has to depend on the ‘honesty’ of her top scamming affiliates to keep her scam afloat.
I wondered this too. Say some affiliate in a third-world country suddenly realizes he or she is sitting on a ton of money (comparatively), what happens if they do a runner?
OneCoin has also obviously opened up accounts for these affiliates to deposit into… so you really have to wonder how deep the rabbit hole goes at this point. Exactly how many generations of empty shell companies have they set up this time?
There is one more point of note: in ZeekRewards, and TelexFree, a lot of losses by participants CANNOT be verified as they are paid directly to their upline, rather than to ZR or TF corporate. This means receiver CANNOT document/verify the amount of money paid into the scheme, and thus, give any refunds.
OneCoin only make this worse.
What they will probably do is get some homeless person to open a bank account in his name, then some criminal will “manage” the account.
The homeless will act as a fall guy / straw man in exchange for a small amount of money.
Sweden: distributor6(at)onelife.eu
Nigeria: Oops, interesting, “unbanked”, I get this message:
Whether this was part of the Plan or forced on them by the banking situation is unclear.
What it does is decentralize the operation and gut Onecoin Inc. itself of capital inflow and recoverable funds. It also provides the name and address of a person (distributor) who is receiving large amounts of cash to the national tax authorities.
As international regulatory coordination to combat large global frauds such as Onecoin seems pretty much non existent, this seems a window of opportunity to start cutting heads of the Hydra by reporting distributors to their local tax authorities.
I’ve started with the odious “Dr.” Zafar and am working my way through the UK diamonds. I urge everyone to do the same in their country.
Remember Capone’s downfall.
Or could this be the cash out for the loyal? What if there is no plan to move the incoming funds through to onecoin central.
Are incoming funds going to be anything significant at this stage?
Dear Oz, recently someone published a link to a thorough research into OneCoin from Islamic point of view.
I shared the document with concerned people to help them see the truth. But they gave me a link to news about OneCoin getting a Shariah Sertificate – coin-lab.ru/onecoin-poluchil-oficialnyj-sertifikat-sootvetstviya-shariatu/. May be you will comment on it.
That would be my guess.
It’s not unusual nearing the end of a “next-big-thing” fraud for the top 10% of insiders to be given advanced warning to allow them to make a last grab for cash.
At least what comes to European countries, this might make it easier for authorities to start criminal investigations.
Hence the scammers collecting the money could be sued in their home country, refunds could be possible… assuming that there’s a frozen bank account to collect refunds from.
OneCoin paid for that certificate. I really couldn’t care less about Shariah compliance.
The way I see it, if you need some religious certification to stop you from scamming people in a Ponzi scheme then you’ve hardly a pious foot to stand on.
It is however worth noting that the research paper condemning OneCoin was independently published.
FWIW, and not that it really matters, but that questionable Shariah Certificate only applies to the CoinSafe product and not to OneCoin itself according to what a commenter posted here .. behindmlm.com/companies/onecoin/laurent-louis-flaunts-onecoin-criminal-injunction/#comment-372696
That commenter allegedly contacted AlHuda Centre of Islamic Banking and Economics for clarification.
So, the OneCoin pyramid/ponzi hasn’t been declared as compliant, but their CoinSafe product has, lol.
If anyone wants to speed up the demise of onecoin you should:
– Email the distributor and get the bank info.
– Use this information, and email the bank’s fraud department and police/economic-criminality unit in their respective country.
Very Nice, Oz!!!
Latvia warns against OneCoin again. Here Ari’s article:
kusetukset.blogspot.com/2016/12/latvian-financial-and-capital-market.html?m=1
We’re back?
You are back.I guess it takes a while before all knows.Congratulations!
Cheers. Well, let’s put this week behind us and get on with it then hey.
!!!
New article from Ari Widell
kusetukset.blogspot.fi/2016/12/a-stooge-appointed-as-new-manager-of.html?m=1N
there’s a story breaking on murrobs today, about touhid rahman a top onecoin recruiter of the ‘one dream team’, UK, being arrested by the london police with a lot of cash and drugs.
the onecoin ‘one dream team’ is led by monir and moyn islam who are allegedly involved with rahman in trafficking, and are on the run.
this was disclosed to tim tayshun by an anonymous onecoin affiliate:
the video can be viewed here:
youtube.com/watch?v=DP5POdIYZck
have the islam brothers and rahman been routing onecoin money into drug trafficking? maybe tim tayshun can provide more details?
we have previously seen another UK link between onecoin and the drug trade. martin henry bickett, the director of zala-group ltd, who was the mastercard issuing merchant for onecoin, was convicted for drug trafficking in march 2016.
monir and moyn islam seem to have come into big money suddenly, after growing up poor.
if the news of rahman’s arrest is indeed true, it may open up a can of worms for onecoin.
murobbs.muropaketti.com/threads/onecoin-uusi-pyramidihuijaus-krp-rikosta-voidaan-arvioida-luotettavasti-vasta-myoehemmin.1197240/page-551
So OncoinForex is supposed to start doing testing beginning 12/12 where people can exchange OneCoin for other currencies.
I’m not quite sure how that is different than xcoinx but I guess we will wait and see how this gets bungled.
The Forex platform is just a desperate attempt to delay the inevitable.
Thank goodness Behindmlm is back
@ Oz I believe troubles with hosting now fixed?
Yep it will be abrupt for local affiliates considering what happened in the UK: arrested or fleeing pick your choice.
I’m monitoring the new setup. Should be smooth sailing but might be a hiccup here and there while I tweak.
After a month I’ll have to pull the site down for a few hours and either make this setup permanent or move back to the old hosting. Might do it in a fortnight if this is stable.
I speak to a investor. she wired money to OC/UOB (account frozen). she recovered her money tuesday. not scammed by OC.
@anjali
The video is obviously authentic. Clearly this is Touhid Rahman in the video. I’ve been trying to substantiate the story and learn more.
Literally moments ago i received the following:
TT DISCLAIMER: THIS IS THE MOST OF AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS OF THIS CONVERSATION. THAT SAID, THIS IT’S SOMEONE WHOM I DO NOT KNOW PRIOR, AND WHOM I AM JUST SHARING WHAT I AM BEING TOLD, DO TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT’S WORTH.
NOTE: interestingly, as I was about 1/3 through posting this info here, the thread almost entirely disappeared from my inbox! I was copy/ pasting from my phone and then, BOOM!
Most of what you just read DISAPPEARED! There were maybe only the last 2 or 3 comments and I could scroll back no further! A message appeared at the bottom of my screen saying “you can no longer reply to this thread.”
So, I hope I’m not hacked :/
@anon
He did not elaborate any further than what I shared above on these points
It also disappeared from my iPad! I luckily had my laptop open and on, downstairs, overnight, and was able to copy/ paste the info from my open Facebook feed! Wjew!
DISCLAIMER UPDATE: feedback in:
The above it’s from someone in an “ex-Onecoiner WhatsApp group.” So, I’m not certain what to believe yet :/
I’ll try to obtain better or multiple sourcing/ documentation. Ugh.
And this from WhistleBlowerFinn:
Touhid has at least access to internet. He posted one hour ago to his FB page: facebook.com/touhid.rahman.94
His post was very short. only this was posted:
WBF: but it seems he deleted or removed all other comments from public
It is clear that something is going on judging the video. Police doesn’t just stop and handcuff people and find money bags for no reason. But I think it is still good to remmeber we have nothing official yet.
I will just post the same what is said in the description of the video in question:
I’m holding off reporting anything till we got official confirmation of what’s going on.
it may be best to hold off on this story of touhid rahman’s arrest pending information from a reliable source or official news.
the fact that he was back on FB after the alleged arrest, points to some discrepancy in the story. moyn islam has also posted a roundabout denial blaming ‘haters’ for spreading lies:
maybe touhid rahman was stopped and checked and found to be carrying cash. nothing more is known at this point.
the fact is that the london police are investigating onecoin, and top distributors are laundering cash for onecoin in the absence of bank accounts. if touhid was carrying onecoin cash it may help the police join the dots about how cash is being collected from victims and transferred to onecoin.
This is what Imran “Imi” Shah had to say about Onecoin Team Leaders and some of the bigger affiliates prancing around London and the U.K. on May 1st 2016:
As it’s obvious that international copoeration between regulators is nil and the extent of the action they’re taking is toothless “warnings”, now that affiliates are opening dealing in cash the way forward seems to be reporting individuals to their local (national) tax authorities, which I’ll be methodically starting on Monday for the UK.
Yeah, though it doesn’t seem like a random stoppage by a local police. There are clearly some investigators not in typical police uniform wearing gloves.
I don’t think it is illegal to carry a cash bag, nor it should be a reason for investigators to appear with gloves, so there is probably more in this than just a random stoppage.
@tmfp – that may “seem” to be the case, but there is much more brewing under the hood (and shit takes time to build a case in order to trap as many rats as possible before they all scurry …fortunately or unfortunately).
But YES! Methodical attack its the way to go! I recommend attaching the much I’d Research Paper with any correspondence, as it seems to be the clearest and most precise single document covering the history and spectrum of the scam.
Ps. In the early hours of this morning I also staged an all out, full frontal attack on OC Member pages.
My next methodic attack has begun by visiting ALL OneCoin/ OneLife Event pages and carpet bombing both those, as well as the hotels which are hosting future events. BUT WE COULD ALL USE MORE SOLDIERS TO DOUBLE DOWN ON SUCH EFFORTS.
Doing god’s work there Tim, keep it up!
OneLife Lottery. Buy packages!!! Spin the Winter Wonder Wheel
Win extra tokens or an instant Split…
Ill take this to The Swedish LotteryBoard at once.
us9.campaign-archive2.com/?u=cf9659fd672fe664d487e7e1b&id=60974aabb6&e=a0e0b3336a
WINTER WONDER WHEEL
Oh these’s f***ks are plain ridiculous!!!!
Winter is coming bank account freezing!!!!
@Moi – RE: “Winter Wonder Wheel”
“Duplication is everything” – Juha Parhiala (#1 income scammer in MLM Ponzi-Land)
Hmmmmm. Not to be the, “You’re so vane you probably think this song is about you” guy. But, I’m obviously not a “friendly,” and the idea shows curious similarity to my own “Wheel of Bitcoin” which I made: news.bitcoin.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/timt8ion-full.png
The only difference being that the Wheel I created HAS NEVER been used to raise any money – only to use at conferences, Meet-Ups, live podcasts and other events TO GIVE AWAY FREE bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies and prizes to demonstrate “ease-of-use” of how to get newbies involved in setting up their digital wallets and experience their first transactions in cryptocurrency!
OneCoin has taken copy-catting of bitcoin rhetoric, history, stories, etc., and constantly twisted them into some ridiculous parallel-universe-Circus-side-show act, buy trying to fit square pegs into round holes.
The very idea that members of a “software and technology company/ MLM/ cryptocurrency” can “SPIN the wheel and get 10%, 25%, 50% more Promotional Tokens, or even an EXTRA SPLIT, which they will receive IMMEDIATELY (i.e. 100% more Tokens!),” if they PAY FOR MORE PACKAGES really demonstrates the desperation of trying to keep the scam going and “keep money in the GAME; and flies in the face of how actual mining works, how a blockchain functions and what true cryptocurrency is all about!
This only FURTHER SUPPORTS the fact that OneCoin is not, not had it ever been a cryptocurrency, but a series of inputs and outputs entering scripts and commands into an Excel spreadsheet SQL Database type of environment.
I don’t believe I’ve NEVER used the word “gypsy” to describe Ruja #KleptoQueen or the infection scam, but this new marketing ploy is nothing but an outrageous attempt by “Carnies” to announce the “Step right up!” approach to selling their snake-oil to new and existing victims.
(*blood pressure levels increasing, le Sigh)
(Please excuse some autocorrect grammar and spelling nonsense)
@Tim
My thoughts are about the same.My ears are like two hot tomatoes…. But we have to stay cool as ice.
Spinning wheels has been done before.
My Advertising Pays (MAP) recruitment based Ponzi scheme also has/had a spinning wheel. This ‘business’ pretends to sell advertising, clicks, banners, or something of the sort. Serial scammer Simon Stepsys promotes this one for the U.K..
As usual, I don’t know $hit about banner ads or cryptocurrency. All I need to know is that it’s MLM, as the product never matters in an inherently flawed system. Be careful not to get sucked in by the product du jour.
@Tim
According to Frank Ricketts, the spinning wheel was adopted from SiteTalk/OPN: youtube.com/watch?v=ThKFaIwNWu0
Well, here’s a pretty revealing direct quote from the #KleptoQueen herself
facebook.com/oneacademyeu/photos/a.1608523212794012.1073741828.1601041163542217/1694737910839208/?type=3&theater
Oh, the sweet irony.
Tim, after looking at your link I went to the webpage of this “OneAcademy” oneacademy.eu/en/experts
Besides the typical scammer profiles there is someone who seems to be an actual academic (with real publications in academic journals), Numan Ulku. He is full time employed by a serious University people.unisa.edu.au/Numan.Ulku
Do you know if this guy is actually involved in the scheme? Of all the people mentioned since the beginning of the story, they all fit the prototype of the con artist. But this one is really out of place.
Here is the latest OneLife webinar with OPN/SiteTalk/OneCoin founder Frank Ricketts: youtube.com/watch?v=id_J1sPKHKQ
RE: my comment #27 in Dec. 11th:
Well, no other info came on the 12th. Or the 13th.
Also, there is no additional substantiating evidence outside the video this person sent, himself. And there is not support for claims regarding San amount of £150,000 seized OR any cocaine being found (much less 1, 5 or 10kg)!!
If nothing is communicated to me about this, by this person, in the next 48 hours, I will publish the screen capture of the conversation HERE and then we can try to figure out whether this was some proxy profile to set up some strange sort of entrapment by the alleged (identifiable) profile to “catch a hater making up stories,” or whether something else.
In terms of the video itself, there is little doubt that this was Touhid Rahman being “detained” by what looks to be more than just a “chance” encounter.
When such an exclusive video is accompanied by a story which seems to very logically “fit,” furnished by an alleged disgruntled OneLife member who claims to have observed both the scamming AND the arrest, well, that comes across as pretty credible.
Stay tuned. I’ll report back within 48hours or sooner if I hear back from this person.
He is the author, composer and/or narrator of the Level 7 course of the OneAcademy.
Announced by OneAcademy on FaceBook on 30 November 2016: facebook.com/oneacademyeu/posts/1691374931175506
Course info: NOLINK://oneacademy.eu/en/course/show/12
It is not clear which package you need to get access to the course material. I have logged in with a Pro Trader account, but that is not sufficient.
@Victor/ @Oz RE: “Besides the typical scammer profiles there is someone who seems to be an actual academic (with real publications in academic journals), Numan Ulku. He is full time employed by a serious University people.unisa.edu.au/Numan.Ulku
Do you know if this guy is actually involved in the scheme? Of all the people mentioned since the beginning of the story, they all fit the prototype of the con artist. But this one is really out of place.”
I just got off of a 40 minute phone call with DOCTOR (Dr.) Numan Ülkü who represents University of South Australia. Dr. Ülkü is definitely NOT involved in the scheme, but only contracted to provide lectures for OneAcademy as a professor of Economics (my notes of the conversation say “an electoral at the University on the subject of economics).
He was given a paid contract to provide video lectures and was asked if he was able to do so on the subject of Cryptocurrency. He stated that he was not, and that he had “no knowledge of cryptocurrency.” He suggested that he would be happy to do one on “Behavior of Markets,” and another on “Forecasting the Behavior of Financial Markets.”
He was originally contacted for the service around April/ May of this year. On September 15th of this year he met in Hong Kong with a “very professional team of filmers from Bulgaria” to prepare and record his first two lectures for video to be included in OneAcademy’s Training Packages. More recently, just a few weeks ago, they contacted him to speak on a new subject, regarding IPO’s.
“OneAcademy” agreed to send a film crew in the coming weeks to fulfill this service contract.
MORE INTERESTINGLY, according to Dr. Ülkü, “OneAcademy” had negotiated with him, and he had brought the agorememtioned idea to the faculty/ Board of the University of South Australia to discuss a “joint IPO” with OneAcademy, directly. Dr. Ülkü stated that “OneAcademy” had paid some money to the University of Australia for “consultation” and was trying to work out a joint venture in “building a co-op ‘corporation’,” with them.
OneAcademy had positioned to “sponsor the tuition of a (as in “one”) student for (some type of) a “Full Scholarship” through the Program which was being proposed. The University deliberated and came back with a nullification on the grounds that the proposal was lesser than other donor arrangements and financial support they had been offered or were accustomed to.
Dr. Ülkü was completely unaware of OneAcademy’s affiliation with Onecoin (and he knew little about the Academy being anything other than an online school and training endeavor). He was pretty much unfamiliar with “Onecoin – the cryptocurrency” altogether.
He was unaware of “OneLife Network,” equally, and seemed to believe that “OneAcademy” was an effort to train Bulgarians on economic principles and markets.
When I conveyed that there existed so-called “Education Packages” exceeding the €20,000 (or 27K?) “Elite” Package, he was uninformed and even “snickered” (at the idea of the so-called “Ultimate Package” [€118,000] ) and was (what I would describe as:) awestruck at the idea of some “Ultimate Package” (of ‘education’) costing €118,000; and even furthermore dumbfounded at the higher packages I referenced at €188,000 & 225,500!
When I brought earlier up the fact that “OneAcademy Training” really had only defined “education” curriculum up to the “Tycoon” Level, he stated that ” this seemed to be areas for which the Bulgarian Team had been “striving to fulfill.”
Dr. Numan Ülkü was only interested in providing assumedly lucrative work for an organization who was willing to pay him for it, and record the lectures he had been contracted to record, on a case-by-case basis. He was quite both interested and perplexed by the allegations I had laid forth, and agreed to keep an open conversation in regards to these matters.
I promised to send him the Mufti Research Paper and other information regarding the fraud/ Ponzi being perpetuated, tomorrow, for his considerations in participation for further projects. His part of Australia is 14 hours ahead of my geo location in USA.
I expect more interesting information to come of this, as we have shared contact information, and will be following up soon, once I get him some of the data that he has requested to substantiate the context of our conversation
…more to come on this matter soon…
Ps. @Oz or Victor – please contact me via Twitter (or other if you know how) for a “pow-wow” if you want to discuss either this conversation or have input/ questions regarding my follow-up (ie., constructive “strategy”), or any specific questions/ “discovery” which may help the cause of finally trying to blow the kid off this scheme.
Twitter: @ezCoinAccess
Tim this is brilliant, I’m very impressed. I’m not on twitter but will join if I have something to communicate you (or if you need to tell me something).
Great work Tim.
Now that the Dr. has been informed, he would be KNOWINGLY accepting stolen Ponzi funds for future services. I hope he realizes this and ceases the relationship.
I have been studying OneCoin for about 15 months including academic papers and most recently conducted a Survey on the effectiveness and efficiency of OneCoin in one of its early territories.
As you will imagine when you combine a false strategy with amateurish local management the only thing that is driving the frenzy is greed and hope that it will somehow come true.
Delusional and very harmful to those who have brought members into the Club and who now need to start unravelling from this parallel world.
Criminal activity now popping up in the territory and police are now involved. Where is Ruja as she appears to have disappeared and isn’t answering her emails any more.
I just got extraordinarily terminated from OneCoin. Interestingly enough they have offered me as a goodwill gesture my original payments for educational material-see below:
Does this mean they are being nice (goodwill) or by accepting the refund will this exonerate them in court if they take me as they have in effect revoked the original contract?
Also I don@t remember signing up with OneLife as it was OneCoin then (aug 2015) so I have asked them to clarify this week.
MY REPLY IS BELOW;
@Tim
Might be worth following, let’s see if anything comes of it.
OneCoin’s packages have traditionally not had anything to do with OneCoin.
The first lot were just copy and pasted Wikipedia articles until the company got called out on it. That and they’re not going to attract third-party speakers if they lead with OneCoin this late in the game.
@cryptokill
So, since I have not yet received any (legal) correspondence for “exorbitant behavior and pursuit of raising ‘unjustified’ claims,” despite my campaign lasting in excess of 18 months or more, I will assume that they must find my claims quite justified 😉
/s
I just published Part 4 of my analysis of the OneCoin “Blockchain” with my favourite topic, the “genesis Block #0”.
NOLINK://onecoinonelifefacts.blogspot.nl/2016/12/analysis-of-onecoin-blockchain-part-4.html
Nice one 🙂
Your complete reply is OK by the way, please keep us posted.
Of course I agree with that and I’m very courious which evidence they would present in a court of law to refute your assertions. I guess nothing, so imo any threats to take legal action would be pointless.
Nevertheless I prefer to stay anonymous as I’m allergic to lawyers in general.
CleptoQueen at her Christmasparty in Sofia…
https://youtu.be/KY2oNfLqxuk
@MikeR Thanks for the analysis
I guess they mean 100 Euros per account for the packages and against
1840 value at todays dates. That represents of 4.5% published value which suggest that the coin is worthless.
I kind of worked that out for myself but interesting to see that is how they see it themselves.
What other examples of buy out /extraordinary termination have been offered so we can compare notes.
As ruja says transparency is key
@MikeR – some top attorneys in the cryptocurrency/ blockchain space have been following this case now for some time and would LOVE the opportunity to see and respond to any such “Legal actions taken” by OneCoin attorneys.
Essentially, they’ve clearly conveyed to me that they have my (and OUR) back, and that if we continue y to expose the truth and call them in their lies, false marketing, broken promises AND OBVIOUS PONZI FRAUD, that we can legally yell it as loud as we like and does it as broadly as we want!
So, I’m holding my breath still, anxiously waiting for such a “cease your ‘harassment,’ ‘threats,’ and ‘unjustified claims/ defamation/ libel/ slander” Letter.
Remember, “Discovery” works both ways in Court! You hear that you LYING, THIEVING, SCOUNDREL CON-ARTIST SCAMMERS: Tom McMurrain, Joby Boughey, Ken Labile, etc!!!
It’s time to put those guys in jail and shut down Questra as well.
Justice need to take some serius action otherwise those scams just keep repeating again and again and promoters jumping from one to another.
Unfortunately my experience is there are many differences between justice and the law, However, I agree that it would be very useful to have detailed evidence of precedents etc.
I am happy to forward copy of the Survey conducted here which seems to have upset them so if you want to send me a direct contact I will be happy to wend direct.
I think we should also be warning OneCoin about money laundering as there new route to obtaining accounts. Can anyone tell us how they are paying out affiliates money owed which used to go into the cash accounts but now presumably need to be filtered in some other way.
Tax evasion is also part of this I imagine so
dr zafar is planning an assault on pakistan:
19th dec Lahore
20th dec Faisalbad
21st dec Islamabad
22nd dec Gujarawala
23rd dec Multan
25th dec Karachi…
Black diamond tour of pakistan. obviously U.K. is slowing down…..
@Tim Tayshun
Can you advise where I can get a copy of your mufti research paper and how I can forward my two articles to you. The second one can be used as a national Survey with a request to get the Pioneers to host an EGM.
I also paradoxically think it would be a good idea to draft up an article for those who have innocently joined this bandwagon to get out with some kind of honour.
eg Identify the upline Pioneer, state how much he /she has taken out of the business and whether he ‘she dealt in tax and whether this person is now trying to launder out the last drop of cash as an Account distributor-which may be a golden goodbye for these special brown diamonds (haha).
It seems to me if you are innocent you should limit the damage before you get hit really hard . The scammers deserve what they get and the rest should just learn from their greed and hyper–optimism,
I hope zafar is shaken down at the airport!!!
@cryptokill – On December 1st the most brilliant single sourced, independent and neutral 3rd party ((this is important because it was not work by a “blogger who gets paid to fabricate and sensationalized stories” or a “hater Bitcoiner who is just scared and jealous that OneCoin is taking over”) …Research Paper on the subject was dropped by an Islamic house of Muslim clerics and scholars.
The Muftis took incredible care in both the presentation of this RESEARCH PAPER, as well as in making sure that EVERY SINGLE BULLET-POINT And claim was backed up via original source material.
The result of their work is a concise, albeit multi-page report whose layout is very quick and easy to follow (despite it being 18 pages with every bullet point exposing flaws and lies of the company) but which also contains some 245 footnotes(!!!)
nawaader.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/onecoin-research-paper-islamic-ruling1.pdf
Additionally, please spread this report and if you or anyone had access to putting it in the right hands of media or authorities, they should help do so.
Oz’ coverage here at BMLM is also, of course, invaluable to investigators.
Here’s a couple other great sources:
Technical analysis series OneCoin POS (Proof of Scam)
onecoinonelifefacts.blogspot.nl/2016/12/analysis-of-onecoin-blockchain-part-4.html?m=1
This guy had done about 50 insightful stories On OneCoin (about half as many as BMLM): kusetukset.blogspot.com/2016/12/a-stooge-appointed-as-new-manager-of.html?m=1
Finnish forum MuroBBS has over 13,000 comments regularly updated covering the scam:
murobbs.muropaketti.com/threads/onecoin-uusi-pyramidihuijaus-krp-rikosta-voidaan-arvioida-luotettavasti-vasta-myoehemmin.1197240/page-548
This Swedish forum is similar with several thousand comments: flashback.org/t2546019p271
And here’s another good site out of Italy which aims to help victims and work with authorities, it seems: truffacoin.com/onecoin-sotto-inchiesta
Find me in Twitter @ezCoinAccess and PM me & I’ll give additional contact info so we can exchange leads
@cryptokill
The mufti research paper can be found here: nawaader.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/onecoin-research-paper-islamic-ruling1.pdf
Thanks for the mufti paper which I will enjoy reading being interested in cross cultural understanding (really!110
Sorry for the length of this next post below but I wanted to share a note I have just sent off to Dr Ruja and the rest of our friends in Bulgaria.
@cryptokill – RE: “Irina Dilkinska”
It is my understanding that Irina Dilkinska, Head of Legal and Compliance, disappeared (ie., “ran away without looking back”) just before the London “CoinRush” Event on June 11th.
Do you have any additional verifiable (or semi-verifiable) information on her position or whereabouts at any point of time between that date and today?
Thank you.
2,799,681 (FROZEN): The stagnant number of OneLife Members is unchanged since Sunday, according to fellow #OneCULT ponzi crime fighter and Swedish computer scientist/ technologist, Petteri Jarvinen’s Twitter post, a few hours ago.
Seeing that #OneCULT is “the fastest growing software and technology company in the history of the world” and “the fastest company to reach a billion dollars in sales (11 months),” and is, furthermore, 5x bigger sales volume/ revenue than Steve Job’s former legacy company, Apple, producing >$1,000,000,000 every 42 hours for it’s “users” (yet somehow, astonishingly not a single legitimate Tech Review, Cover or even ARTICLE bestowed upon them in Forbes Magazine, Time, Newsweek, The Economist, Tech Crunch, Wired, Gizmo, or ANY FINANCIAL IT FOCUSED magazine, newspaper, television show, special, documentary, cryptocurrency publication in the world, or other major media source [at least which hasn’t rightly labeled it for exactly what it is]); maybe they just can’t catch a break.
Oh the hue manatee! imgur.com/jALYM
TT Note: Petteri’s Tweet was 7 hours ago, and since then I’ve been monitoring that member. As of the time of this post it remains stagnant at 2,799,681 still.
OneCon/ OneLie Network definitely should have their CTO and skilled development Team immediately look into this, cause I’m sure their robust Customer Service force is anxious to return inquiries, and it kinda gives a bad impression and makes people wonder if all suck cryptocurrency COMPANIES have similar issues.
As a fellow cryptocurrency professional and enthusiast, I’d like to offer them some community support: These problems began when they switched from a green blockchain to the new blue one.
They should know by now, nobody is interested in blue blockchain anymore. But hey! What do I know? (I’m just a “hater” and jealous/ scared Bitcoiner who looks to the technology and mathematics for answers and proof).
Someone probably just needs to restart the script that generates the random affiliate number increases.
I DO feel a documentary is probably in the works.
However, I don’t feel it will be the documentary that the Kool-Aid sippers are quite expecting :/
well duh, Everyone Knows ruja is busy partying with her top scammer gang.
her IQ may be a scale busting 200 and all that, but that still doesn’t mean she can party And change affiliate numbers at the same time!
Just a small correction. Dear Petteri is Finish.
As I could not detect a proper messaging method from your blog, I’m mentioning here that I at least _tried_ to comment on your blog but I’m not 100% sure if the comment got through.
There are 10 blocks in the blockchain where 1,000,000 OC is moved to one output address and it’s always to same address. (Blocks 16067-16074 and original 16041 and 16042.)
I just published your comments on the blog. This is very interesting (I did not yet notice this myself).
Definitely worth a special investigation, maybe even a dedicated article. Nice to have something to do this weekend 😉
@Tim
I have ben in email correspondence with Irina for about 3 months initially complaining about the antics of various affiliates over here and the failure of Compliance to get the incompetent out of our Organisation. That includes the three guys who opened up Ireland –Peter Shaw, Pehr Karlsson and John Barrett.
She actually conducted an Investigation and confirmed my assertions but the both Ruja and Compliance froze my accounts as they would not buy me out.
They then went on to damage my reputation, circulate private mails and eventually Ruja lost her rag and indicated that she was beyond (email) reproach and certainly would not counternace emails from Affiliates.
Irina than got into legal speak which didnt address any of the issues raised but to give her her due she always replied and apart from delays she seemed to be based out Of Bulgaria all this time but I have no easy of confirming that.
So I conductted a Survey amaongst about 120 Affiliates over here looking at Strengths,Weaknesses,Opportunities and Threats which confirmed that everything negative was getting worse over the last six months and positive elements were eroded significantly.
I even offered to provide workshops for them in running their flawed Organisation but the cost was too high and their marketing team thought that all was ok (surprise surprise).
Have recently sent Ruja a copy of the Survey *and 120 Affiliates and I have been extrardinariLy terminated -which I am appealing but no rely yet so maybe Irina has now disappeared as you suggest?
I would hope that a complaint against her with the Bulagarian Law Society there might flush her out as as at least she has a name as an employee as opposed to the “Team” from other correspondence.
The Survey shows widely held perceptions here and can readily be adapted for use in other countries -it certainly has caused ripples here in Ireland and threats to me so always watch your back.
If there is anyway I can post it to you for further distribution without exposing my email address on the Net I will gladly forward it.
Keep up the good work and for all you believers it looks as if denial and avoidance are insufficient strategies–time to aplogise??
Yup, they just pressed the button to a nice big round figure 2,800,000.
You missed the third comment (that had like… 10 hyperlinks.)
Published also (automatically put in the “Spam” box indeed). Great stuff ! 🙂
@cryptokill
Can you message me on Twitter anonymously @ezCoinAccess? Or set up a Telegram account? My telegram name is TimTayshun (no spaces).
2017 is the new “Year of the Merchants,” according to Ruja at their Christmas Party.
Goals remain 1 million merchants, 10 million users and €25 coin.
VIDEO SOURCE: youtu.be/7wk3g3KHyL0
So by the end of January the platform that was already hyped once will be hyped again.
How many legitimate merchants will be interested in “joining” a pyramid/ponzi opportunity, even for free, in order to accept overpriced coins that have magically been given a value over 7 euros without actually being used for anything?
in an interview with top UK recruiter muhammad zafar, CEO pablo munoz ‘acknowledged’ that onecoin has huge problems in the UK which has ‘stagnated’ growth.
he says he’s working on setting up a public relations company and a legal brief to ‘resolve’ these problems.
he hinted that they may organize an event in the UK in late february/early march, 2017.
so, munoz has all of two months to convince the UK that onecoin is not a ponzi/pyramid scheme. he will need a lot of luck!!
the video of this interview is available on muhammad zafar’s FB page.
Pablo, run as fast as you can before its too late !!!
m.facebook.com/OneCoinRujaIgnatova/#!/OneCoinRujaIgnatova/photos/a.465282920339011.1073741827.465280963672540/616803018520333/?type=3&source=44
@Otto et al:
We have a Bingo! on Address 9gZYr1K99chvfLRpuS33hsZLHVjqimYtdy (where all those genesis-block coins were moved to in Block #16041).
9gZYr1K99chvfLRpuS33hsZLHVjqimYtdy is the Output Address of 1 of 66 (!) transactions in Block #20519
onelife.eu/backend/cryptocurrency/blockchain/block/0f286b4fdf82e0b601525f6aacaf9f51b6e93df6931e18783d753012a219cd95
Tranaction ID: NOLINK://onelife.eu/backend/cryptocurrency/blockchain/tx/7b4a2300e9645609f46a999e85690d076a2f4aad299696cf8f32ab9f0ec7a125
The script is still running.
@MOI – I hadn’t noticed this previously, but Ruja obviously seems to have had immaculate conception of her baby (being that she was never pregnant, IMO, and was actually skinnier than ever at the Criminal Mastermind Event on October 1st). However LOOK AT THE DESIGN OF THIS DRESS:
i.ytimg.com/vi/TG9Rq6hAJHk/maxresdefault.jpg
The LINES of the design are quite peculiar, in fact! They actually are DESIGNED to give an appearance or accentuate (illusion?) that her belly is highlighted and pregnant!!
Okay. I need a female observers input on this. Having been a photographer this might have otherwise escaped my observation, but this dress is DEFINITELY DESIGNED FOR THIS EVENT, I believe. In fact, any such design is unflattering, as FROM THE FRONT its AWKWARD to make her belly look deceptively bigger than it is!
You can see it here too:
4.bp.blogspot.com/-eOvOUPr-3HE/V_BRmOk_AII/AAAAAAAABHU/EWwnEm_UtCcPeMz4pSfIC2KU94GhD_JuQCLcB/s1600/cake.jpg
Now look at her profile at 1:04 in this video: youtu.be/lVmlyML7CpI
Also see 3:44, 6:23, and particularly 22:21. These are the PROFILE shots. There are many. Was Ruja ever actually pregnant during this time?
By comparison, here is what I found of a “middle” emphasized belly images of someone 8months pregnant: farm7.static.flickr.com/6071/6054322689_068a0d9251.jpg
According to this video: youtu.be/4rVC21NVdf0
Ruja have birth around the end of October.
The big question is, “was Ruja 8 months + pregnant at the Criminal Mastermind Event at all?!?!
Inside information suggests that she had her child through a surrogate mother. This had been stated. The information she was never pregnant during this time.
Mariana Lopez de Waard interviewed her on September 26, in Mexico a week before the Bangkok Event, when she announced the baby, here: youtu.be/y28BIu0A4IY
I have seen (though am having trouble sourcing) better profile picture which make it appear impossible that she was truly pregnant. Can anyone help disprove this (if it it’s the case) with additional screen shots or images?
Can we determine whether she was or was not pregnant, as she claimed, during this Event? Or was it all pay of the OneCoin game, escape plan, avoiding extradition, etc., add had been suggested in these blogs previously?
EXPLORATION:
Can we prove she either was or want pregnant? Because this Can play into her escape plan (or not) of we have enough evidence to prove this.
Maybe that is already the solution to your question.
Tim. Noooo way she was ever pregnant. I reacted at once when I saw her in that dress in Bangkok. No way.. Its a fake all over.
Little time to go through the links ill do it as soon as possible.
It looks as if the end is near for OnecOin and certainly the delusion of a new merchants platform in end.
@Asphyx –
It is. But for the first time I’m now noticing that it appears that she has taken special extra effort to look pregnant for the charade. I would like to PROVE otherwise, and the trickery (and speculation) behind it.
@MOI – little time to go through the links ill do it as soon as possible
Not that big of a deal. Same observations you had with the addition of seemingly extra effort to play the role; ie., the design of the dress itself. It’s unflattering, generally, but suits the purpose.
The lines run horizontal (a no-no in design for women cause it makes them look “fatter”) and it actually “bows” over her stomach, somewhat (like half a Target logo), and drapes out and down; though nothing is in there at 8 months and one week.
Ari Widdel also brought up a good point:
I’m unfamiliar with this policy, but I tend to believe she did not take a private jet to Bangkok. I’m trying to see if a contact of mine can obtain a flight record for her to Bangkok to confirm or deny.
Well, Tim. No it isnt that important, but as you brought it up we can point at this fake as well. lol
If you look at the interview with Lopez she should have been in the end of mth8. 23.9. sits with no problems…
youtube.com/watch?v=9NdB2mWymzI So in Thailand she would have been even bigger,but her body is even thinner except for the” muckup”.
Shortly after a onecoiner posted on her facebook that Ruja had given birth to a daughter… Unfortunately i cant find the link.
After that the surrogate stuff started. 4.11 the video with her newborn.
facebook.com/Dr.RujaIgnatova/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE&fref=nf
If she had been really pregnantit would have been hard to travel to Bangkok even if it would be allowed.We have all seen women in 8,9m.Its along journey…….
i hope to see a soooon ending to this fars. Her new face is coming direct from Madame Tussaud. I feel sarcastic…
Rather surreal goings on here.
businessforhome.org/2016/12/city-of-london-police-threads-for-reporting-about-onecoin/
Nuyten shows himself up for the stupid puppet that he is.
Printing the photo of a leading London QC (with a fearsome cv) over someone else’s (misspelt) name, pretending to be a bobby, on the Interwebs…..
All he had to do was ring the phone number.
Nuyten has a wrong guy’s name and face there. According to the name in the letter it is this guy:
linkedin.com/in/kieron-vaughan-b5213848
Reported in MuroBBS, OneLife sign in now has warning that unpaid accounts will be removed: i.imgur.com/IMsjMPD.png
Apparently they try to make it harder to see what a facade the BackOffice (especially the blockchain) is.
Thanks for the info. This means I will need 26 accounts per year 🙂
Nyuten is on OneCoin payroll. I have a witness whom I will try to get to make a statement.
….and, our fearless defender of freedom Nuyten defends his freedom by deleting a growing list of derisive/critical comments.
Too late, Ted….
imgur.com/Yepb6Xz
Ain’t no photos on this website anymore.
So it’s confirmed then.
Ted Nuyten is OneCoin’s Troy Dooly. I wonder what will come of it.
This is the page, with the QC’s photo. archive.is/h50sc
Nuyten has since edited it out, deleted the comments and changed the hyperlink on “Kieron Vaughan” to direct to an actual policeman’s Linkedin, instead of the QC’s.
This fits the profile of the author of the “threat”, but doesn’t explain the false phone number.
As I said earlier, surreal….
sounds like a troll to me though
Oh, absolutely likely.
My point was the acute amateurism displayed by Nuyten in the way he’s handled it, especially when he’s piously emphasizing that doing your own research is essential to avoid being duped.
@tmfp – yep. Comments are now closed and eliminated on that article, altogether.
I also tried to call the number but couldn’t connect.
Nyuten’s “official reply” however still has a comments section opened here: businessforhome.org/2016/12/legit-direct-selling-companies-ponzis-pyramids-and-our-opinion-2/
Wonder how long until those go down too?
And in typical Nyuten fashion, he retorted to one commenter who stated outright, “OneCoin is a known ponzi scam! Why would you post…….”
To which he weakly replied, “Can’t you read!?”
Lol.
Also, I seem to recall that Nyuten’s own wife is actually a paid member of OneCoin (well, “paid” or “paying” – not sure 😉 ). Can’t remember where were that sourced from though (probably here somewhere?).
So nobody’s been able to get in touch with Kieron Vaughan and verify contact?
Tempted to put pen to paper but will hold off till we get confirmation.
My take is if money or incentives have directly or indirectly exchanged hands, you’re no longer reporting and can’t hide behind freedom of press.
@Tim
IIRC she had a Vemma affiliate position. Not sure about OneCoin.
On a separate note:
alhudacibe.com/pressrelease75.php
AFAIK Coin Safe hasn’t changed since inception. It is and always has been just a vehicle to trap invested funds for a few years.
The model AlHuge CIBE granted certification for is the same model today. Did the check to AlHuda CIBE bounce or what?
When companies start to fake “certifications” and other “social proofs”, it is near its last legs. Remember when Zeek tried to trick its local TV station to say the state of North Carolina declared it not a scam? The state got the TV station to withdraw the entire video segment so fast…
I’m in two minds about the London Police thing.
If it was a troll, surely Nuyten would have realized? I imagine the email correspondence between BFH and Vaughan was through a .gov.uk email address.
Wasn’t spoofed, as obviously the a dialogue has gone both ways (you can spoof an address but replies aren’t delivered).
Kieron Vaughan meanwhile appears to be an actual investigator. As per London Police’s announcement, he’d very much be involved in the investigation (money laundering).
On the other hand, I’ve not seen a law enforcement agency issue a cease and desist for promotion of a Ponzi scheme before. Least of all with the reasoning that an investigation is underway. That part is a little strange.
Given Vaughan is with the money laundering investigation dept, perhaps they’ve linked payments between OneCoin and BFH (that have obviously not been disclosed)?
Otherwise other than Nuyten’s articles commonly being cited on social media by Ponzi supporters, I can’t see why they’d initiate contact.
Surely if they had bigger plans they’d have just lead with that (ala Troy Dooly)? And I’m giving Nuyten the benefit of the doubt as, despite our different approaches to MLM reporting, I don’t think he’d make the whole thing up.
Anyway, I did try to find a contact for Vaughan but came up blank. The phone number not working is also a bit suspicious.
That’s where I’m at on the story. Not publishing anything until it can be verified that Kieron Vaughan actually made contact. That seems to be the responsible thing to do.
@Tim why do you wright stuff if you don’t remember? you loose credibility on the things that you do know…..
@Sly – “I seem too recall” / “maybe here”
It’s more a question than statement, and certainly not any sort of assertion.
Perhaps someone can reply by saying, “yes! Comment #xxx on story xxx here: (link), we determined that _____ Nyuten is a rep because ______.”
No one remembers everything. Especially when it comes to a story the size of War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy. A little help is novice sometimes.
dooly what?
I have asked a friend of mine, who is a senior police officer to confirm that Keiron Vaughan is legit. If so, then the City of London police have far reaching powers, beyond what other forces have and they reach into Europe.
As for Ted at Business for Home and his claim of free speech. That is a big oops on his part. I do not think he understands, what he is dealing with here.
Further, I suspect he is treading on very thin ground, since previously he has supported a number of Ponzis as being legit and someone somewhere is going to sue him one of these days for their losses.
There is also something called Joint Enterprise and he could be brought to court by the authorities too.
Refusing to assist the City of London police is not good policy.
It’s not that Vaughan isn’t a real policeman, it’s whether he wrote those emails to Nuyten.
Knowing the UK police’s methods a little, I would be astonished if they would communicate in that way. The take down threat is absurd if you think about it.
My money’s on troll (a good one too) with faked email headers that a dunderhead like Nuyten wouldn’t know how to recognize.
@Sly – Reviewing my notes from April of this year, someone contacted me from the Netherlands who said he worked with Nyuten previously during the acquisition which became Business for Home under Nyuten. He provided quite a bit of interesting information, including starting that Nyuten’s wife, Dini Noorlander, was a member.
This is the person who convincingly described how he knew for a fact that Nyuten “is on OneCoin payroll and receives EXACTLY 40K (€ or $ I’m not sure) to NOT write anything bad about OneCoin.”
This is a person i meet and exchanged cards with at a conference in 2015 and who saw me and others battling OneCoin, so he reached out to me with substantial info at the time, with a lot of back and forth Q&A over Skype; and i was convinced he was telling the truth (although i was unsure of what to do with the info at the time as he requested to remain anonymous “for now” – he emphasized).
So that’s the story. I’ll try to go back to that conversation and reopen communication.
For more on Ted Nyuten, Business for Home, and its “pay-to-play” structure, see: behindmlm.com/mlm/where-do-you-get-your-mlm-news-from/
That was the violation of term of certification and non-compliance of the guidelines they talk about.
Hi Oz, Edit and post if you like..
Hm,.. interesting eh ?
I watched this little video last weekend, Dutch with English subtitles.
🙂
facebook.com/wdreamsmaycome/videos/vb.854961694608903/975265615911843/?type=2&theater
Errr…no? Thanks for wasting 7 minutes of my life.
In addition to what Otto posted:
and possibly
@tmfp
You’re welcome 🙂
It clearly shows how tight Nuyten obviously is with one of the biggest Onecoin leaders/scammers.
Originally it was posted on this guy’s FB page but has since been removed.
Thx, good motivator for me.
The mufti paper was really good and well researched and I recommend it to you all.
I am taking a civil case here in Ireland against the OneCoin Pioneer here in Ireland -John Barrett for financial loss of 910 Euros-being 7 starters at 100 Euros and 30 admin cost per account.
I shall argue that these accounts were knowingly sold to me as part of a non viable pyramid scheme and consequently with intent to defraud.
Over here and indeed in UK you take the offending individual (after all OneCoin accepts no liability for the fraudulent actions of their Affiliates) to the small claims court as it is less than 2000 Euros and no costs are charged to either party.
I shall tell all the other disgruntled Affiliates in Ireland to do the same and seek appropriate justice . For those of you who have similar remedies I would recommend you consider such an approach as regulatory authorities -so called -are not really moving against this Scheme.
I imagine the Press shall attend so we will invite Peter Shaw as a witness on behalf of the defendant and a decent television article and some papers will help the transparency of this Organisations workings and its impending difficulties
Wish me luck.
@cryptokill – Great work. Kudos. Many more will follow suit. Pursue as much local media as possible and lead by example 🙂
Good news. I feel often sorry for all those poor or greedy victims in third world countries begging to have their Onecoins sold at 1 € special price because they actually need teh investment back, but being unable to sell shit.
So words needs to spread and these mentioned papers should be made public by newspaper in islam countries which should not be such a big thing.
Just my two pence, good night.
best of luck! sounds like a great plan!
@Oz @anyone
I need a translation of this. Can anyone help us in this?
youtu.be/C9sK9MaoUNs
Uh, Arabic?
How do you even know it has anything to do with OneCoin? (other than the video title)
Anyway, the video description reads:
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! Christmas Eve in Sweden.
@Tim emoneyspace.com/forum/index.php/topic,402553.105.html
“Beautiful” dossier you posted in emoneyspace. love it.
@Oz –
because a defected Onecoinist victim recommended it is all.
NEVERMIND: HERE IS THE TRANSLATION/OVERVIEW
FWDD: “translation from de marocco guy who psted the video on my FB an ex oincoiner”
ORIGINAL
TRANSLATION (as given to me)
Merry Christmas everyone.
CORRECTION TO TRANSLATION:
Onecoin has DIRECTLY ADDRESSED the Islamic Scholars and Muslim Clerics regarding their INTENSE “Research Paper” on what Onecoin is: A SCAM/ not a Cryptocurrency.
THIS is their “Official Response:”
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6186163/THE%20PERMISSIBILITY%20OF%20ONECOIN%20%20ACCORDING%20TO%20THE%20SHARIAH%20A%20RESPONSE.pdf
Nah, that’s not an “official response”
The logo is that of a “OneLife Independent Marketing Consultant”
actually a ‘disclaimer’ at the end of the ardous response claims this is written by
uh, so a muslim onecoin affiliate has written this response and is disagreeing with the research paper signed off by many islamic clerics?
i guess the clink of money is more important than islamic laws, which these guys pretend to follow religiously! if these guys can run around overturning each others ‘fatwas’ why have them at all? just ridiculous.
the ‘response’ says:
hello. whats this friggin ‘backoffice’ secrecy? which investigative bodies have issued ‘positive’ conclusions’ except for the Paid Opinion of a couple of private law firms from germany?
shame on you pablo pinnochio [i’m sure he’s behind this ‘response’] for this bunch of lies you’re dumping on muslims. we know your UK affiliates are crawling all over dubai and pakistan and bangladesh and you need the islamic communities money to line ruja’s nest.
shame on you pablo pinocchio for using religion to attract people to your ponzi with your claims of ‘shariah compliance’.
cryptocurrency needs religion to work? shame.
i wonder what the ‘sharia’ has to say about a company which no bank in the world will host?
onecoin could open it’s account in some ‘islamic bank’ since it’s so darn ‘shariah compliant’. so why hasn’t it?
Hey there Maulan Muminur Rahman, in what finance world? Certainly not Europes. I’d say only in the world of OneCoinTopscammers.
Sober reply by Yusuf Chambers on FaceBook: NOLINK://www.facebook.com/officialYusufChambers/posts/1277681168921312
a Md Mashuk of london, who believes onecoin is a scam, has posted this message on facebook in response to Maulana Muminur Rahman’s reiteration that onecoin is shariah compliant:
by the above post, it seems that detective Kieron Vaughan is ‘real’ and is involved in the london police investigation into onecoin!
let’s see how pablo pinnochio convinces the london police that onecoin is not a ponzi/pyramid scam!
Thanks for the input. Notice not one claim was addressed “head on.” I thought the Official LetterHead was interesting in its “blanket denial” of any misgivings.
Rather than address any or all if the 245(qty.) SOURCE DOCUMENTS, the entire Research Paper, as a whole, was more-or-less completely distracted from.
What deplorable and deceptive tactics to wholly attempt to dismiss the relative research!
I really hope these scammers get what they deserve! I hope such is a prosecutable offense.
the reply is from md mashuk and not yusuf chambers. chambers seems to be still involved with onecoin.
Thx for correcting this, I made a mistake there, Yusuf Chambers has fallen into the trap: NOLINK://youtube.com/watch?v=WbO3ULCcNQI&t=1m34s
Maulana Muminur Rahman is in the downline of moyn and munir islam of the UK, who run one of the most successful onecoin groups called ‘one dream team’.
touhid rahman who was recently stopped by the police with a bag full of cash also belongs to this gang.
it seems to me, that onecoin corporate under pablo munoz’s instructions, drafted this ‘response’ and rahman agreed to put his name on it.
munoz has recently said something about setting up better public relations to peddle onecoin better, and this ‘response’ looks like a step in that direction – publish slick lies to help the recruitment efforts of their affiliates in the muslim community.
Can somebody in the UK please get in contact with Keiron Vaughan and confirm whether or not they contacted Business For Home?
This is the second time his name has popped up.
Are we talking about this Kieran Vaughan who is a lawyer, and apparently can’t even spell his own name correctly:
gardencourtchambers.co.uk/barrister/kieran-vaughan-qc/
Isn’t Bullshit for Home based in Holland or somewhere else outside the U.K. Why would the London police contact someone outside the boarders?
The lawyer isn’t the guy. There’s an actual agent with the same name working in a money laundering investigative unit within London Police.
England is still part of the EU. Isn’t it all connected?
Yes, but the Police in the U.K. doesn’t operate in Holland. They are still two separate countries.
Sure. But both being member states of EU, I’d imagine authorities in both countries are more inclined to cooperate with eachother.
Part 5 of the analysis of the OneCoin “Blockchain”, automatic buy orders of Onecoins after the exchange of Euros in the Trading Account for Tokens. It will not come as a surprise that these transactions are not visible in the “Blockchain explorer”.
onecoinonelifefacts.blogspot.nl/2016/12/analysis-of-onecoin-blockchain-part-5.html
Hi everyone,
I live in London and was personally contacted by DC Kieron Vaughan. Anyone having any information regarding onecoin or has invested money in onecoin can contact him directly.
Please only contact him if you want to file a personal complaint against anyone in Onecoin or Onelife and is willing to provide evidence.
Please do not contact him for Q&A as he does not have the time to do this. He can be emailed directly to
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You can also write to him or speak with him on the phone. The full address and contact details are below.
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This is something I posted on a public figures facebook page after discovering that he was lured into the scam as well. Thought you should all have a read as well.
I have kept his identity confidential out of respect for him. He is also a mutual friend. He is now having second thoughts. If you can guess who it is then please leave it to yourself.
@MD
I removed those contact details only because I don’t think it’s in the best interest of Vaughan to have his work email slammed.
The City of London police have only requested the public contact Action Fraud (0300 123 2040), not Vaughan directly.
@Oz
Ok. Can you email me with an address that I reply back to you on?
Contact form button is on the top right of every page.
Anyone who receives money from customers for or on behalf of Onecoin/Onelife will also be charged with charges that would otherwise have only been made to Ruja.
Historically every single Ponzi scam always come to an end and Onecoin is more serious than that. You are involved with organised crime. If any greedy affiliate is reading this posts then take heed from this information.
could you share with us when DC vaughan contacted you? when did the london police start investigating onecoin and do you have any idea about how long the investigation will take? i read some claims on facebook that it will be over within 3 months.
in a recent interview with muhammad zafar, onelife CEO pablo munoz said that he was tentatively planning an event in the UK for late feb/early march 2017. so, he seems to suggest that the UK will close the investigation into onecoin and clear them by that time.
do you have any idea whether onecoin corporate is in touch and cooperating with the london police investigation?
muhammad zafar and yasir mirza, both UK based onecoin recruiters, were recently in pakistan, recruiting heavily for their diamond club team.
pakistan is apparently showing such great promise that the great kari wahlroos is ‘considering’ visiting it himself:
so, if pakistanis cough up enough money, wahlroos will grace them with a personal visit and fleece them some more!!
yasir mirza has met with the paksitani politician dr babar awan in sharjah, UAE. awan is a well known member of the pakistani peoples party [PPP]. mirza has posted photos of this meeting on his FB page.
is yasir mirza cultivating political patronage in pakistan to have easy access there?
Hi Anjali, I made a report to the Serious Fraud Office on the 26th of December 2015. Kieron only contacted me on the 17th of October 2016.
I am aware that Onecoin are still being investigated and victims are still coming forward.
Unless an individual has invested money in onecoin and made a complaint, the police will not provide specifics. When I know more then, I will post the info.
After period of quiet and no big events it seems a big event is planned by odt group by Islam brothers and Touhid. London 21st Jan so it seems investigation had no impact.
You can see video of this event on the Facebook timeline of Karolina Kaliton. She is rumoured to be girlfriend of Black Diamond Jose Gordo.
Interesting venue is not mentioned so I suppose they concerned venue will be contacted and their farce show will be exposed.
Onecoin is marketing heavily in Muslim community. Bought new half page ad here:
Check out @OneCoinAbohamza’s Tweet: twitter.com/OneCoinAbohamza/status/813875924236206080?s=09
Having read the paper and looked at the sources, I would say mainly primary sources and some secondary sources.
Easier said than done and for what benefit?
If OneCoin cult members can’t be convinced with clear proof, they can just as easily dismiss personal testimonies as lies and propaganda by haters.
Happy New Year everyone and hopefully this facade will be finished in 2017 and we can write a book about our learning.
Two things–Compliance appear to have stopped replying to enquiries and also are not issuing tickets of acknowledgement so it would be interesting if anyone in Bulgaria can find whether the office is still manned or what might explain this increasing black hole of communication.
Secondly ,has anyone got Pablo’s email address as Ruja isn’t answering her mails?
Most companies use a standard structure for email addresses, so for instance if Ruja’s email is ruja.ignative (at) onelife.eu I would try pablo.munoz (at) onelife.eu.
Or you can use their customer support email or contact form and ask them to forward your message.
Some tips which might help you during your preparation:
1. Gather evidence about the methods and practices of your OneLife/OneCoin upline/leaders. They’re not just selling educational packages, they’re trying to establish a “global reserve cryptocurrency”.
2. Try to find the original IMA Agreement and Terms & Conditions which were valid on the day you signed up. New versions pop up regularly, but just publishing these on the onelife.eu website does not bind you automatically.
3. Try to find YouTube videos of your uplines and save them on your own computer.
This is the Firefox add-on I use: addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-video-and-audio-dow/?src=api
While the video plays, click on the icon > Download Links > Choose a format.
Here’s one with Peter Shaw on 22-Oct-2016: youtube.com/watch?v=HhiY8tA9xBY
4. I also found this post: https://behindmlm.com/companies/onecoin/onecoin-under-regulatory-investigation-in-germany/#comment-361367
If this is the same person, he sure is a true believer.
Any idea when your case will be up in court?
We can then sell that as an educational package about the perils of ponzi schemes. paying commissions for downstream sales and include some free “scamcoin” tokens which will be worth billions…
Just kidding, but I’m not sure what learning there is in all of this. Onecoin seem to exhibit aspects of many known problematic schemes.
(1) Selling one product which no one cares about, as a mask for the real “product” being sold. So obviously so that the “leaders” have to continually remind people about the product being just the educational package nothing else.
(2) MLM where there is no real product, the main thing is selling to other affiliates
(3) Boiler room share scam where shares are sold at an inflated price with the “promise” that it’s about to sky rocket in value, whilst preventing people selling their shares in any meaningful sense.
These all seem fairly well known and people still fall for them.
Thanks and that post was from John Barrett who was one of the early Pioneers under Peter Shaw although he also did some business in Portugal in the last 3 months of the year.
I am delighted that he has gone public on his leadership role which I shall share with the police ,the courts and at the right time as part of an ongoing dialogue withe Affiliates over here.
Having said that he just sent out folksy mail to Affiliates attaching a work schedule which I note below;
(Ozedit: Spam removed)
It is seriously underwhelming and has just been sent out passively –god knows what a “blast off date” is.
The earlier Survey we ran here points out the VERY POOR efficiency ratings of the Organisation here and this integrates withe ineffective scores of OneCoin as a whole.
I have sent Pablo a copy of this and will be asking him if we can use it as Case study at a university in which I work as an Organisational Development Consultant. As i often say what is the worst thing that management could do next and this reaches -in my humble opinion new levels of delusion.
The counter from OneCoin is always we are still recruiting thousands of members weekly so they all can’t be wrong!!!!
Affiliates are very resistant to accept the probability that this is all collapsing and I guess that is about desperation, continuing greed and cognitive dissonance.
As I said a great book or actually a fantastic film -Phantom pregnancies, fast cars,fat people and the populists who will join up for the dream -god help them when it crashes.
You edited out as spam part of the above mail and it would make more sense if this below is included . I am now sending the second page which is helpful as the first page is just a calendar /task schedule list Nos 1-7 refer to the tasks after blast off!!!!!
Regards
Guide to what the above 7 numbers represent on the Income Producing Activity Tracker
(Ozedit: Marketing spam removed)
@cryptokill
It’s marketing spam, please don’t repost.
Next major conference is being advertised for 21st January 2017 in London – the financial capital of the world.
Tell Vaughn and Daily Mirror etc.
youtube.com/watch?v=2Aq9-idntyo
Have a look at post 168 above and John Barrett was doorstepped by a reporter in the week and an article on his activities and OneCoin was going to appear in the papers this weekend but he has taken out an injunction which will be heard in the Dublin High Court this coming Tuesday.
His arguments seem to be
The papers case isopposite to all above and;
ADD YOUR THOUGHTS SO WE CAN ADVISE THE PAPER -NOTHING TOO TECHNICAL!!!
i will arrange to forward them to the Courts after summary
@limercklady
If the newspaper is remotely competent they’re going to easily be able to prove otherwise in court.
All they have to do is hold up a copy of OneCoin’s compensation plan, ask Barrett how much he’s earned and how.
Please forward link to best site for Compensation plan and also the several streams of commission for uplines -both official eg commission and also unofficial such as discounted codes.
I will be in touch tomorrow night.
Keep these posts coming in and we will be in touch tomorrow after summary
Keepthosepostscomingin
ay additional benefits that significant uplineres get eg discounted codes.
I will be in touch tomorrowe newspaper and hopefully it’s lawyers are competent.
I’m not trying to self-promote but BehindMLM’s OneCoin review spells out the fraud.
That’s directly based on OneCoin’s compensation plan. The only thing that has changed since is the amount you can invest 225,000 EUR now IIRC.
Even that has now increased to 229250 EUR!
onecoin.eu/tech/
The John Barrett mentioned above in post #174 is he the same very lucky John Barrett who was one of the Irish Banners Broker Ponzi scheme leaders who coincidently won The Tesla in the Banners Broker car raffle?
It looks like his luck might have finally run out.
@John
consumerhelp.ie/contact-form
thanks for that detail and if you are based in Ireland you might like to put a complaint into the above contact form which the reporter has suggested as John has said there have never been any complaints about him -other than me!!!..
If any of you are based in Ireland that would be great-also the rest of the world.
This isn’t John Barretts first rodeo.
Sorry not located in Ireland.
Does this refer to anything concrete or is it just blah?
tfmp asked what was the significance of 3 Mining suppliers and auditing and whether this is blah blah?
Firstly with an open source blockchain there is no need to audit as the miners regulate and confirm the transactions. Auditing is about true and accurate sets of accounts and these are not subject to any such scrutiny by Oncopin’s auditors who appear to have diesngaged and disappeared anyway.
The miners are suppliers to OneCoin and therefore would appear to be under their commercial control -particularly since 123 Billion coins!!! Cant see them rocking any boats if they actually exist.
There is significant doubt that a blockchain actually exists and to get through the alleged new transaction rates they would be very sturdy and use lots of electricity and would ge nearate plenty of hot air –so you don’t have a supplier in Hong Kong and the other two are alleged to be in Bulgaria so they would have their work closely -to say the least.
Auditing is irrelevant and in any case as they claim it is independent It has not beEN published on the back office for 9 or so months (enough time for Ruja to have a baby which again has not been independently verified.)
So not —blah blah -more crazy crazy.
John Barrett ‘s case was heard last Tuesday and a temporary injunction was placed on the paper until the full case is heard in about 6 weeks -so we expect him to run off to Portugal and take cash from giftcodes he is managing at the moment.
This whole project is getting more and more bizarre and I see OneCoin links are now also pumping Swiss coin which is obviously another default pyramid whilst the IPO for late 2018 is offered.
The so called merchants platform is utterly worthless and I assume even the most gullible affiliates working under Barrett will now see this and start focusing on him.
@limercklady Thanks for the update, I appreciate it. Can you tell us more about the temporay injunction, what does it imply?
This means that the paper is not allowed to disclose Barrett’s name but they are able to write a broader article about OneCoin and by referring to Banners any one who is in the loop may be able to work out who they are talking about.
The interesting fact is that Barrett was financed by OneCoin (possibly Peter SHAW) and the OneCoin press department have been in touch with the paper and we await details of their response.
The fact that he has directed the criticism and risk to OneCoin will be interesting to Pablo (the new CEO)and if the Press department are involved I assume this is with the authority of their lawyer -Irina Dilkinska.
She has previously indicated that they are not responsible for their Affiliates actions in their terms but are involved directly in this one. Don’t know why given all the other rubbish they are involved in but we appear to have touched a nerve.
So I recommend that those of you who want to get out simply write to OneCoin and indicate that you signed up on the basis of a public exchange when 1.5 million coins were mined and want you payment -copy your Pioneer or significant upline and if not paid within a local week take the upline to yourlocal small claims court or news paper.
Finally I read this note re Japan and as the Corrs would say it left me breathless.
Nope, nothing shady about OneCoin at all.
I’m 100% certain that all those universities who offer cryptocurrency “education” collect their tuition via bags of cash in dark alleys.
If that is truly what is occurring in some places, I just have to shake my head.
I wonder if these scammers get to pocket their 10% commission in addition to pocketing the 10% fee for the “foreign exchange law”?
Again, nothing shady here folks, lol.
I have just found out that OneLife/OneCoin are now registered out of Belize having originally been registered in Gibraltar and later last year described as registered out of Dubai.
I know they lost their Bank account in Dubai but wonder if the transfer to Belize has any particular significance. I do know that when Banners Brokers went bust they transferred their Company contact details to Belize and am wondering if there is any advantage to OneCoin (ie disadvantage to us) in such transfer.
I have asked Irina Dilkinska -their Corporate lawyer -to offer an explanation but no answer –although I imagine she is pretty busy anyway with all the legal dvelopments etc
@cryptokill – I had heard that Irina Dilkinski bailed out unannounced just prior to CoinFlood in London, last June 11th. Do you have any knowledge contradicting this or demonstrating that she hadn’t already jumped ship? Thx.
Is any legal action planned in Sweden?
With so many people being scanned there that would make sense!
OMG….there is some serious money laundering going on here! What the hell is the government waiting for? The longer they wait to take this scam down, the more people that will lose!
Hope to have some very interesting developments midweek but it would be useful if those watching can link me into the best links regarding the range of educational packages.
The contents, the levels and their association with the packages,the certification and any reference to their terms of usage.
When do the packages become irrelevant e,g Tycoon. Does the back office monitor and publish certification rates.
I know it is theoretical (ie-bullshit) but that is their primary defence.
I am frozen from OneCoin but they are claiming the fundamental contract is for educational packages and it is going to court!!!!
Versus it is a pyramid scheme. They are spending a lot of money and I suspect Corporate are involved and bank rolling the plaintiff as an Independent Affiliate engaging indirect sales for an honest living (sic).
@limerick lady
The “educational packages” started off as PDFs of copy and pasted content from free sources (Wikipedia, Investopedia etc.).
They’ve since added paid recorded “lectures” from paid stooges.
If you want to emphasise the irrelevancy of the packages, just ask what different education you receive when you invest 225,000 EUR vs. 5500 EUR.
Also ask if the education packages alone are indeed worth up to 225,000 EUR, why OneCoin doesn’t sell them to retail customers?
Add in the fact that members are allowed and encouraged to own multiple positions and you have zero value to the “education”.
Why on earth would anyone need to buy multiple “education” packages if the primary interest was in the education?
Oz’s old buddy Ken admitted outright that he wouldn’t have purchased the packages if the tokens weren’t attached.
He has purchased at least 7 packages. Why? For the tokens, for bonus tokens, for additional splits, and to maximize the comp plan to payout to deeper levels.
On the subject of multiples, the Dealshaker hype is bandying about “access to 12 million members”.
Although their numbers have always been fantasy, how do they get from 2.9 on the ticker to 12, when even OC accept that members hold multiple accounts, meaning that the number of actual individual people involved will be always multiples less than 2.9 million, not more?
@limericklady you can find an overview of Product packages on NOLINK://onelife.eu/en/oneacademy or NOLINK://onelife.eu/en/ (no login required).
The contents of the educational packages are only visible with a paid account.
Certification is not required to be able to upgrade to higher levels (i.e. more expensive) educational packages.
To get access to the onelife.eu backoffice I recommend making a fake account via NOLINK://onecoin.eu/signup
Don’t fill in personal data. For the required conformation email you can create a temporary email account via NOLINK://guerrillamail.com
This presentation contains an overview of product packages and Bonus plan:
NOLINK://slideshare.net/MarianaLopezdeWaardO/new-onecoin-reward-plan-in-english
Good luck!
Well, heres the OneLife Newsletter of the week.
us9.campaign-archive2.com/?u=cf9659fd672fe664d487e7e1b&id=ea8d5b235a&e=a0e0b3336a
Either the “education” is for for a cat, or no one (not even cats) buy or read the “education packages,” but “invest” for the ponzi tokens/ coins.
SOME FUN EXCERPTS FROM COMMENTS SECTION AT: news.bitcoin.com/beware-definitive-onecoin-ponzi/#comments
TimTayshun:
WhistleBlowerFin >> Ken Labine:
Ken Labine >> WhistleBlowerFin
Tim Tayshun >> Ken Labine
SUMMARY:
A.) the cat, Milo, bought education
B.) the cat is a “miner”
C.) the cat is “already making money”
D.) Labile directly infers that the cat is an INVESTOR (“right place, right time, opportunity is magic”)
E.) the cat’s identity is registered in Onecoin’s superior blockchain?
F.) Therefore, the cat must have provided suitable “Know-Your-Customer” identification documents to the Company Compliance Dept. (you know, so he doesn’t “buy drugs or fund terrorism”)?
G.) the cat can now be a part of the amazing IPO in 2018?
Labile is an Encyclopedia of contradiction and deception. You can enjoy at least 300 more of his, often incriminating, comments and silly arguments on this article.
Ps. Originally, and up to the beginning of last year, all “Education Package” .pdf’s remained online WITHOUT any sort of security or password protection.
This, from the same “software and technology company” who professes to keep OneCULT members KYC documents and identifications (bank account info?) “SECURE” and sound.
@MOI – per an earlier comment, DealShitter TOS clearly defines Onecoin’s as nothing more than “COUPONS.” 58x to be exact.
This most recent NewsLetter continues to clarify that Onecoins CANNOT be referred to as “Merchant acceptance of OC as a cryptocurrency,” despite claiming that the DealShitter marketplace has now 4,000 merchants registered to accept Onecoin (coupons).
QUOTE:
NOTE THE VERBIAGE: “(Onecoins …not accepted…)…AS A MEANS OF PAYMENT…”
Who knows what legal mumbo-jumbo compliance issues they’re trying to skirt here, but it’s clear that according to this, *mined “tokens” are still not crypto”COINS”/ “cryptocurrency.”
Quite the quagmire they are getting themselves into!!!
Oz and Tim
I would imagine you have my direct address and I want o send some direct confidential questions to you both regarding educational products and some other issues.
Please send me a mail.
Regards
@limericklady
Tim can be contacted via Twitter. Contact form button for BehindMLM is on the top right of every page.
LimerickLady: ^^^
@ezCoinAccess
PM me and we’ll share contact details.