3 million EUR tied to OneCoin to remain frozen, objection dismissed
An internal investigation by Germany’s top financial regulator revealed OneCoin had received around 360 million euros into German bank accounts.
The funds were deposited and transferred through OneCoin’s international money laundering network between December 2015 to 2016.
Unfortunately by the time BaFin was in a position to seize the funds, only 29 million EUR remained in the accounts.
Nevertheless the 29 million euros were frozen and remain so pending the outcome of an ongoing investigation.
OneCoin appears to have petitioned for the release of 3 million EUR, through a complaint filed against BaFin’s freeze order.
As I understand it OneCoin, through the shell company, tried to make the case that the 3 million euros were a result of transaction fees and not their money laundering activities.
Last week the Higher Regional Court in Hamm rejected the objection. As per the court’s order, the funds will remain frozen ‘in case of a later criminal conviction‘.
The Managing Director of the Greven shell company OneCoin used to launder funds stands accused of Payment Service Supervision law violations.
That investigation is ongoing, as are wider investigations into OneCoin in Germany and Bulgaria.
In a statement issued to Westfalen-Blatt on Friday, Bielefeld prosecutor Ralf Günther stated “the investigation (into OneCoin) is far from complete.”
According to this follow-up report out of Bulgaria, flowing recent raids, “People Behind Onecoin Are Talking:”
I’m extremely curious, but have no translation of what is presented in this 5 minute news piece, yet!
If it is negative about OneCoin you can bet Igor Krnic will claim it is “yellow journalism,” as well as the other believers on his blog. Can’t have anything negative said about OneCoin or Ruja.
@Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington
It is exactly like that! My husband Harry wrote a post yesterday about xcoinx.com and goldvault.co – the comment was not unlocked.
Today my husband wrote another post. The result you can see here:
Critical comments unwanted – the brutal truth too!
Just reflecting on the uniqueness of OneCoin when there have been significant losses on the world’s financial markets and this included.
Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. Of course OC has remained unchanged because it has no value and is not traded in any market.
In fact it wouldn’t surprise me hat there will be another increase in the next few days as all other metrics are telling the real story.
where are 1 million merchants ,where are 10 million members,how can a company be raided and lose its servers as part of an investigation and there is no loss of appetite in the financial markets –the answer includes greed, stupidity and false hope.
The scammers continue to scam or defect and there are revelations such as we should have asked questions from Ruja. She has disappeared either long term or to be pulled out of the bag as some divine revelation whEn the spurious ICO reaches another tomb -sorry mile-stone.
Already laughed today? 😀
This reminds me of May 1945. At that time no German was a Nazi! Never!
Now next step freeze and seize the money of the leaders scammers in Germany, Italy, Austria, The Netherlands and so on. That would be a serious message to the market.
dont forget UK and Ireland—Indeed all the authorities associated with the Bulgarian raid.
Peter Shaw was the Leader behind opening up UK and Ireland (as well as downlines in Netherlands) he was conferred Crown diamond status in Bangkok in first week of December and since then has “stepped back” from OC citing his mother’s health. Bit late as she died 3 days or so later.
Netherland Affiliates see this as his exit strategy so if any of you know more about this guy please psot.
For french reader, “Streetpress” make a nice article in 3 part about the onecoin network, everything is explain (almost)
Not certain if this is something new or a rehash.
Damn, it’s hard to keep track of all this garbage.
New news to me. OneCoin was under investigation in Pakistan but this is the first arrest I’m aware of. Thanks for the heads up!
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I was going to put a report together on this but I can’t make out if the arrested is a OneCoin affiliate or not.
The FIA are investigating both OneCoin and bitcoin but there doesn’t seem to be any clarification as to whether the arrested was specifically a OneCoin affiliate.
A German lawyer explains the connections and the grounds of the court:
The court ruling by the Higher Regional Court (4. Penal Senate, Case 4 Ws 196/17; 4 Ws 197/17) is now stored in the case law database:
No. 3 Gs 6118/16 by the District Court Münster
No. 7 Qs 12/17 by the Regional Court Münster
I got the impression reading this article that it was one person who deals in Bitcoin and OneCoin that was arrested. Just my 2 cents worth.
BBC Panorama Investigates The OneCoin/OneLife Scheme. Aired 12th February 2018.
The last 30 seconds or so is pretty revealing. EU and the UK need to get their shit together re. regulation of unregistered securities.
Possible blockchain#1 now ready for prime time??? Perhaps pushed out early under the recent big BBC reveal?? Air drop???
So after finally acquiring a blockchain script from somewhere, looks like they’ll launch an altcoin, give everyone tokens (ala BitConnect’s collapse) and then do a runner.
Same old, same old.
@Oz – RE: “alla BitConnect…”
Speaking of BitConnect! The Merkle just published an article reporting that David Mehmet, and several other of the plaintiffs against BitConnect, are claiming or alleging that the three original Onecoin “Founders” (Figureheads) are associated with the scheme:
I’m reluctant to believe that this is anything more than heresy though, because I don’t believe Nigel Allen and Sebastian Greenwood/ Ruja Ignatova would ever work on a project together, from what I’ve learned of them.
Yeah I did see the video, treating it as Gerlach Report for now.
Mehmet cited BehindMLM as a source for Ignatova’s arrest, which as we know was never confirmed.
Seems to be a lot of “this person once worked with this person so 100% concrete connection in BitConnect guaranteed”.
Another revelation about Onecoin seems to have just surfaced, if we are to interpret Onecoin’s official CEO (Chief Excuse Officer) Igor Krnic’s statement in his Onecoin debate/ propaganda forum, in response to the earlier report concerning the Onecoin Exposé on BBC1’s award winning News Show, Panorama:
Unless Krnic can adequately source his claim he’s on the same level as Gerlach Report.
@Mr Timothy Curry
Mr J did not retire – rumors are: he is the owner of DagCoin&Ormeus.
I highly doubt Ruja “was tricked” into creating the double-edged sword of OneCoin/OneLife. Throughout the last two years the OneCoin leaders have always used the “OneCoin is not operating in country XXX” or “The company YYY has nothing to do with OneCoin” or “The person ZZZ is not related to OneCoin”…
…because in all cases these were associated with OneLife.
It’s been a perfect excuse to use every time your Pyramid fraud hits a wall.
(And totally pointless because onelife.eu web address was registered using onecoin.eu email address.)
This is only a little over 4 minutes, and the TV show was at least a half-hour if I heard correctly. I can’t play the video as I am not in the UK and the player is for UK residents only. So if anyone has the full show please let us know what it said. You can’t copy it and put it on YouTube without their permission.
If anyone recorded it, please send me a copy of the show to my email address. You can contact me at RS and I’ll give it to you. Thanks.
I was going to ask if that was the full episode, as 4 mins felt a bit short.
Guess I’ll look it up with a VPN later.
The full 30-minute Panorama episode is available here on iPlayer, although I’m not sure whether it’s accessible to non-UK viewers.
I haven’t sat through the whole thing, but I suspect that it is mostly about Bitcoin and the four minute excerpt is the part that deals with OneCoin.
I was able to watch it, and only those 4 minutes are about Onecoin. The rest of the episode is mostly focused on Bitcoin, Bitcoin future rise or fall, and people that made money with it.
That 4.5 minutes was the OneCoin part of the Panorama Episode “Who wants to be a Bitcoin millionaire”. It was pretty short.
Pretty sure that when they show the hidden camera inside the meeting room on that BBC video recording, some of the people she spoke to were the Islam brothers (listening to the accent) who took millions in the UK from people and later abandoned Onecoin as it became to hot under their butts.
Same story as Igor Clown, they didn’t know it was a scam blahblahblah. We are innocent we only took 6 Million poor us.
Now they are promoting Team Revolution network, I guess another fast growing crypto.
Those crypto scammers never stop once they had the taste of easy money, until someone puts them in jail.
Thanks for the clarification. Hopefully next time they will do a full show on OneCoin. God knows they could make it a 2-hour special and still not cover it all.
Yes this is disappointing considering all they could have done on OneCoin.
Dear Mr Scambuster789 – comment #32
Yasir did smartphone record this Igor Alberts video Remember: vimeo.com/175506099
With Peter Shaw in the room in Japan they can never say – we did not know!
deliberately they fooled people for their own sake! – the proof is on so much material.
just check Igor’s sleazy sales pitch, just watch his body language…a 5th grade school act, and now dagcoin – same dog same energy, same BS, but still no blockchain!
What a slimy scammer he is! I hope some of his victims will find him and settle accounts with him before the police gets him.
Now Igor Krnic has banned two major critics:
@Melanie – RE: “Now Igor Krnic has banned two major critics”
He banned me and a few others long ago, as well; but John Reiner and John Reiner (and/or “flat rate” …whomever) have name dropped me every other boring, deranged and pointless comment.
Funny how nearly all but Igor hide behind “PPP” pseudonyms themselves and clearly use multiple accounts – as they’ve claimed against us for the past 3-4 years.
I commend Crypto Xpose and EagleOne for having the patience of a God up until just very recently, even though it was evident that they had to walk on egg shells, to some extent, in order to survive in lunaticville debate forum as long as they did.
When I predicted suicides over Onecoin collapse, I’m now wondering if some of us “haterz” might be the ones who’ve lost faith in humanity interacting worth such epitome of ignorant and brainwashed human shells! Lol.
But seriously, I fully expect the last 2 pages of that thread addressing the raids: pages 67 & 68; to be deleted altogether by Igor Krnic, in true cult fashion, due to the BRUTAL battle axing tsunami of inconvenient facts both valiant truth warriors wrought against the invisible-pink-unicorn-in-a-box OneCULT disciples.
It was awesome and in the real world would have caused multiple fatal blows to their propaganda. But since One Zombies don’t live in the real world anyway …a flat earth, in fact, according to Igor Krnic, this will likely only strengthen their resolve.
God forbid Ruja is apprehended in China and faces a firing squad for her crime spree! That would immediately propel her into sainthood and “One Family” would declare adv international day of silence and remembrance. (Please God, just let it end finally!)
In brief, the criminal investigations, fines, bans, search warrants and court approved international raids including German authorities, Europol and Bulgarian prosecutors …and even BBC1 Panorama Special Report (just LOL!) were all the doing of lies perpetuated by BMLM, me, the two aforementioned, and the jealous & afraid Bitcoiners and bloggers (and of course a few rogue IMA’s who went against the company and got arrested).
^^^^No shit ….that is literally what they believe, what Igor wrote and what the congregation preach as the “obvious.”
Rather than an orange jumpsuit, perhaps “3.3 million” (*wink *wink) straight jackets would be more appropriate. They’re like Westboro Baptist Church, but with real numbers.
Krnic and other Onecoin/MLM apologists have the same sort of “illness”: narcissistic personality disorder and cognitive bias.
No matter how much facts and arguments you throw in their face, they will fully ignore them and direct their efforts to minimize the importance of those facts by calling them hate speech, fake, inaccurate and so on.
From their point of view what they believe is the only truth, and whatever comes against those “truths” is a lie.
These people are so convinced they are the only ones with the knowledge, that everybody else needs to first “educate” themselves before arguing with them. And even then, they consider themselves almost perfect, above all others like they are the most knowledgeable personas in the most known world, and will never admit they were wrong.
When their scheme comes crashing down there will always be somebody else to shift the blame to.
Sunk cost fallacy. They can’t get off a bucking bull without getting trampled. They don’t realize it can only get worse.
The members of the OneCoin-OneLife-sect always speak of “haters”. Totally idiotic! You can hate people, but not a pseudo-cryptocurrency. I propose a new name: ScientoloneCoin! 😀
By the way: A few names from former OneCoin members who now recommend DagCoin:
And the owner of the website onecoinupdate.com still publishes this ancient photo of Juha Parhiala:
Somebody is sleeping soundly…
This brainwashing technique has been used for a long time by MLMers. Sadly, it’s nothing new.
EXCERPT FROM SCIENTOL-ONECULT-OLOGY DEBATE FORUM:
WordPress doesn’t have a “ban” function.
All they’re doing is justifying banning anyone who doesn’t buy into Ponzi bullshit by strawman’ing made up bans on here. And lying about email account hacks too.
I don’t have time for idiots and even if I did, I think I could find something more constructive to do than waste my time trying to brute-force some random pleb’s email account.
OneCoin is dead and Krnic’s site serves even less of a purpose now than it did before (which isn’t saying much). There’s nobody left to convince, so why even bother Igor?
The Ponzi scammers who follow Krnic will go down with the OneCoin ship. The Earth will continue to turn and there’ll be new scams to track. Such is life.
that is quite the tale of intrigue all over forgetting one’s passwords. lmao!
I know that Igor said he banned cryptoXpose and EagleOne, but I was told that they are not showing being banned. All talk and no walk? Just curious.
Of course all the faithful are coming out of the woodwork praising Igor for his action. I doubt if flatrate and detroyer (yes he really spelled his moniker that way) together could come up with an IQ of 90. I’d tell them to sell, but there would be no buyers.
ICO Round One
I was wondering what had happened regarding the second round of th ICO which was scheduled the day the Bulgarian Office was raided by the police internationally.
As the second phase had been announced months ago I had assumed the cleaner could have pressed the button in the absence of Ruja or the acting(?) CEO Konstantin-Her brother?
What I did manage to find was the Phase 1 explanation which I fail to understand.
Can anyone elaborate and explain in straight forward terms. We are surely missing Ruja’s 200 Mensa score on this one!!!!!!!!
OOH AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE OFC ‘S AND HOW THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MANAGED—Sebastian Greenwood promised he would let us know by end January in his Kuala Lumpa Funeral speech but he has now gone to ground.
STILL THE COINS ARE USELESS ANYWAY—now I understand!!
Not possible. There is no such thing as a ‘blockchain script’. The term ‘blockchain’ means a distributed database, running on many computers around the globe, not just ‘software’. So there’s no way these idiots could set that up.
What they did is, they’ve created some tokens out of thin air, with no value and they’ve used the Ethereum platform for that. This can be done by a 6-year old very cheaply and doesn’t involve coding. I believe there must be an online app for that.
it is apparently even more bizarre as the application form requires applicants to forward 0.0025 Ethereum per coin.
I had assumed that you had already paid when you bought coins when you bought yoiur packages et. Ethereum exchange value per coin was quoted as .0.0025 per coin–so yet another payment to be made??
What is happening to the other 30%–is it going to Wahlroos, Greenwood and Alberts as part of their settlements or offered as a retention bonus to those that are left eg Zafar who are still hanging in.
Can anyone enlighten us chickens? (credit to Kari for that description in comparison to himself as the” mighty eagle”)
Sure there is. You can get ’em for a few hundred from dev teams India. That’s to launch it, what happens after who knows.
How do you think all these ICO lending Ponzi schemes are popping up (ethereum scripts). Even long-time scam supporters Your Free World are offering an ICO script for $799.
The MLM underbelly has turned whatever ideals cryptocurrency might have started with into a joke.
I have a second confirmation from a very strong source on Sebastian Greenwood’s departure from Onecoin.
Additionally, I have one report, also from a very good source that Stefan Liback is now gone.
Furthermore, it is alleged that the two aforementioned bought the following company: orbytal.net – which appears to be some sort of payment processing service (domain registration “private,” of course).
Udo Deppisch is said to be long gone for some time already, having taken much of his team with him, allegedly, to another project which he is said to have ownership in.
I was given a name of this project but would like a second (or 3rd) conformation at least on that, as it’s something everyone knows (not DAG, by the way).
Next one to leave will be probably Jose Gordo, who a month ago went nuts against Igor and Kari leaving.
Udo went to TCG the crypto group since a month now, he also states he’s the co-founder as well. He’s now dragging masses into that scam. He’s together there with another former Onecoin guys Max Milian Nilsénius and Navid Tavakoli.
Guys that took money inside Onecoin from thousands of people and with that money created their own scam.
I think they offered Udo the co-foundership after joining because they started some months before he left Onecoin.
I think they have a retention problem— I wonder why?
Presumably they wish to get out to make dirty scam money elsewhere and to avoid being in the Organisation when it finally goes under and arrests are made. Don’t forget these people.
The authorities have been slow and cumbersome and enormous losses have built up. Whilst there have been arrests (too few imo).
I AM AWARE OF ARRESTS BUT APART FROM CHINA HAVE THERE BEEN ANY PROSECUTIONS?
Sebastian Greenwood – the next Mother Theresa?
The German networker magazine “NETWORK CAREER” warns against cryptocurrencies and ICO’s:
The very detailed article contains many passages by Randy Gage, which have already been published on BFH in November 2017.
Steffan Liback is still on the poster for the DealShitter Event in Zagrab, along a “mystery guest” (maybe giant Ruja hologram?) on the 16-18th of this month.
We’ll see what happens. It’s coming up quickly!
And that’s the director of the Ltd. in UK:
There is a DealShaker expo going on in Zagreb, Croatia, and the organisers have managed to get the Croatia’s largest business daily to copy-paste their PR bullshit: poslovni.hr/trzista/najveci-dogaaj-u-regiji-vezan-za-kriptovalute-dealshaker-expo-zagreb-337667
Their desk can be reached at (removed) and if they get enough e-mails, perhaps they will publish an article presenting counter-arguments.
A great comment below the article (translated by Google):
It would be a lovely opportunity for Interpol and Europol, round them up in Zagreb! Sitting ducks!
I just write comment, Melanie do same and everybody do it please.
Onecoin scamers are still active in Serbia, Croatia, Macedonia…
@I just write comment, Melanie do same and everybody do it please.
Onecoin scamers are still active in Serbia, Croatia, Macedonia…
The Greek team of Onecoin scammers is under the influence of Dinos Bakalis and they insist that all bad news are just fake news.
Well, Igor Krnic is telling porkies again. He posted this and I quote:
There is no way in Hades he knows this. He’s as bad as the Gerlach Rerport telling this lie, but then that’s why he banned cryptoXpose and EagleOne so they couldn’t call him on it. And he knew he would be called on it. What an arse.
Unfortunately that is not possible. Only registered users can post comments there. Another problem is the font.
You can e-mail the desk with the counter arguments: redakcija AT poslovni.hr
This was just posted on FB by Luc Goosen, and I quote:
Now what is interesting is that Frank Ricketts wasn’t named, after the big deal about him being “Captain” and does anyone know who Luc Goosen is?
Okay, done! 🙂
The Belgian politician Laurent Louis is again involved in Onecoin fraud. Here is a photo from a recent workshop at Paris, where he encourages people to get acquainted with Onecoin through his Youtube channel:
He is also one of major organizers of a workshop that will take place today at Belgium, with speakers Dinos Bakalis and Vasileios Stamatoulas:
Something happened to Krnic. He suddenly became even more fanatic and started talking just blatant straight up lies without any shame.
I guess it’s his reaction towards all the investigations going on. A need to reinforce his own beliefs when things are more and more uncertain for the members.
I’m out of the OneCoin loop, what is the GLG?
Sounds like a half-baked attempt to create pseudo-management underneath Konstantin.
OneCoin are locked in an ever decreasing vacuum with non entities taking over -but some of them eg Steffan are supposed to have left anyway –did he turn up at Zagreb for Deal Shatter.
Where is Zafir and I see that Parwiz Daud has now taken responsibility -what a schmuck!!!!
Luc Goosen is a Belgian scammer from Onecoin that resides between Belgium and Suriname, probably where his wife or partner is from.
He’s still actively promoting Onecoin although his facebook profile says former Onecoin consultant. Before he was promoting Organo Gold Coffee, so he might belong to the group of Clown Igor. Will we see him soon in Dagcoin? Big possibility I guess.
Igor Krnic stated the following today:
“I heard Sebastian will retire but will remain as “honored” member.”
What a strange duplicitous sect.
They have no puplic Onecoin CEO
No Onelife CEO
No board of directors
But they have an honored member
An inner circle
A captain of the ship
It’s like Game of Thrones.
He’s now claiming that when he visited OC the people in charge told him there was no money laundering or fraud and he believed them. Talk about CYA when he got caught out.
He is scared to death charges are coming and he is doing all he can to keep the faithful in the fold so they won’t listen to any of us.
So the false narrative is spun out daily. He has enough sociopaths there that cling on every word and believes everything he says.
Here’s the latest from Igor Krnic’s blog, and I quote:
Another quote from there:
Your fake news is even more fake than the Italian authorities -get a life.. CIAO!
Belgian politician Laurent Louis on his FB page, besides expressing his political views, urges the people to be informed about the Onecoin revolution!!!
What ever happened to the ICO bullshite? onecoinico.io
Looks like 17th January has not yet been reached? 😀
See posts 48 and 52 above
No one seems to know what is happening -if indeed anything is happening.
Ricketts isn’t much of a global consultant. more and more stupid everyday.
On this new page the author explains about Onecoin…He insists that OC Works on the basis of blockchain technology, but also He admits they have no blockchain technology, but they’re developing one…
At the question “Is OC a scam?” he answers that bloggers are earning money saying so and you should ask someone involved in OC to tell you the truth (!!!)
Another PR article about the Zagreb Dealshaker conference has been published in Croatian media: lider.media/aktualno/tvrtke-i-trzista/poslovna-scena/foto-predstavljena-platforma-dealshaker-koja-kao-sredstvo-placanja-koristi-onecoin-kriptovalutu/
The CEO of Lider Media can be reached at bojana.bozanic AT lider.media
So if this author is correct, then OC has lied about their blockchain since day 1. While no surprise to any of us, it will be a shock to Igior and friends. Hmm if true, this is called FRAUD.
@APSA —REF POST81
i have posted two comments on the article and both have been removed so don@t bother disagreeing publically through that channel as it is a waste of time -This site of course is fine.
There re glaring inconsistencies in the article eg going public end of second quarter which is 8th October! And All Cryptocurrencies are decentralised but OneCoin is centralised —so I assume that it is therefore not a cryptocurrency???
Well, detroyer posted this on Igor’s blog, and I quote:
with respect to post 84 the author identifies OneCoin as being the first MLM marketed Crpytocurrency — I thought that that was BigCoin which was Ruja’s first experience in crypto and which crashed on public launch!!!!
Frank Ricketts -the current global consultant for OneCoin /OneLife in the now 4 month absence of the Cryptoqueen masterminded that launch –FANTASTIC TRACK RECORD BUT HISTORY WILL MOST LIKELY REPEAT ITSELF UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP
one can make any claim when it’s all imaginary.
While BigCoin was the first to try it, OC was the first to succeed. I have to give them that.
But the big news that Italy was back in business for OC announcement didn’t happen. Shock, Surprise, Gasp!
Now Igor is giving detroyer cover saying it could happen on Monday, but wasn’t guaranteeing it. Really Igor? This means that detroyer’s statement was fake news. I thought only us “HATERS” put out fake news.
HI WHY DO OC NEED AND EULOGISE 50 K TRANSACTIONS IN THEIR BLOCKCHAIN EVERY HOUR WHEN THERE IS NO EXCHANGE? what are they transacting?
Why (apart from lies that is )?
Remember how OC was touting the value of using CoinSafe? Well, things are not rosy in CoinSafe it seems, and I quote:
Of course everything is always going to be alright according to Igor. Standard answer to every question, and won’t admit there is no-one in charge that can answer these questions. That’s why no response from support after 3 requests.
Oh and detroyer did a mea culpa about jumping the gun with the announcement. At least he admitted it.
Joke: Donald Trump supports OneCo(i)n!
Well, it wouldn’t be the first scam he was involved in… Trump University. 🙂
That will make a great meme for the OC crowd.
Making OneCoin great again!!!
LOL, so now Igor will use the some servers being seized to explain away issues.
Igor will probably tell you it’s the DealShitter purchases.
In reality: simulation is a simulation and does what it was programmed to do.
I thought those servers were claimed to have three identical installations of which only one was in Sofia (all this to prevent any downtime due to one server site getting disconnected)?
Igor has now changed the name of the thread from “Bulgarian Investigation” to “German Investigation.” Handlers much, Igor?
Come on now Tim. We all know that Bulgaria was only cooperating with the Germans. Bulgaria has no problem with OneCoin, Igoor said as he bent over and grabbed his ankles, cough, cough.
It appears that OC members are experiencing significant delays in response to lodged tickets with Support.
Also a significant number appear to be complaining that coins are disappearing from their accounts for no apparent reason and requests to investigate these losses are not being acknowledged.
This is particularly the case where Coinsafe lodgements -the ones where you got 12% interest in coins for agreeing not to take them out for 2 years–have now matured.
HOW WIDESPREAD ARE THESE PROBLEMS AND WHAT ARE THE REASONS?
Simple answer: it’s a ponzi / pyramid scam doing what pyramid and ponzi scams do and everyone, except for the top 5% of members will be affected.
A bad joke is also the website goldvault.co
For many months it says there only:
Earlier, this fairytale was spread there:
yes I fully appreciate and understand that but these coin loss issues have recently started to appear–together with delays in replies from Support. Have they closed down the troubleshooting staff (sic)?
With respect to the Coinsafe disappearances this could be very bad news for the Affiliates who signed up in 2016 and who should be raising the uissue with their uplines.
Finally is there an ICO or not?
there was no coin.
Apparently Nikola Korbar has stopped promoting Onecoin. He left a comment on my blog, stating he has left (Onecoin) network a year ago, and that he is completely satisfied with mining (didn’t say what).
After I confronted him with info from seminar in Belgrade back in november 2017 where he was listed as one of the speakers NOLINK://image.ibb.co/cdVYEG/23213213_1546921135416144_2065332631018918270_o.jpg (first on the left), his words were “I’m still there to assist/help”. As far as I can see it he’s done a Ludbrook type of exit.
You can’t attend OneCoin recruitment events in an official capacity and claim you’re not promoting it.
The thing is his websites about onecon have not been updated since September 2017, his linked profile also lacks any recent activity about Onecoin and he rarely shows up on cult webinars.
He doesn’t share usual propaganda on his facebook profile (dealshitter crap) and his posts are mostly where he had been recorded or interviewed – he is posing as crypto/blockchain “expert” now and somehow he managed to reach local TV and Newspapers.
Considering OneCoin recruitment has been dead since late 2016, he’s probably just given up like the rest of them.
Made his money and whatever he now gets from OneCoin to attend events is a bonus.
As for Krnic his total investment in Onecon is: 60btc and 10000 eur.
His own words from reddit post NOLINK://www.reddit.com/r/serbia/comments/7crfw9/onecoin_onelife_veoma_opasna_prevara_na_koju/dpv0p9x/
He also commented somewhere, not sure if it was on his nodebate forum or facebook discussion, how his btc investment would have brought him more then 200.000$ if he kept them, but he is so sure his involvement in OC would prove to be much better decision (yeah right..).
60 BTC is almost half a mill today. Around a mill or so a month ago.
Gotta feed yourself a ton of bullshit to get over a loss like that, which explains Krnic’s made-up excuses for everything.
I just posted at Igor K’s blog that in regard to the claim that Italy was ready to allow OC to do business again that it was odd they would be doing that.
The reason being is they were part of the 8 member of the nations that brought the raid on OC offices. Why would they participate as one of the member countries in the raid and then before the investigation was complete give them a clean bill of health?
It is going to be interesting to see the replies.
Here is the link to the BBC: youtube.com/watch?v=F3f9_DSq3sM
Why hasn’t ONecoin mined any coins in over 3 weeks . That is over 1.5 trillion coins and if you add the lost coins disappearing when Coinsafe contracts are maturing (Remember the 12% lock in and the promotional interest for 2 years) it is deteriorating exponentially.
Bit stupid that level of interest for a lock in because the exchange has been closed most of that time anyway.
No news about the delayed ICO ,the prospectus for the next 6 months and what about the OFC’s and their transfer into the ICO .., Is there anybody left who is managing the 3 server farms who can tell us what is happening?
Where are the last dregs of money going??? Any of the believers know?
Well, according to Igor he said this about the coins in CoinSafe, and I quote:
Now what is interesting about Igor is that he says he is not an IMA, and is not an employee, but he knows everything about what is going on inside OC. He just can’t share some things.
As for why no coins are being mined, they have perfect cover to say it is because of the raid on the offices and the taking of the servers and computers.
As for the delayed ICO, that too is being blamed on the seizing of the computers and servers. But the good news is the big ICO for Oct 2018 is on schedule and won’t be delayed due to the investigation according to Igor.
He also let is be known that the results of the investigation might not be known until 4th Quarter of this year or later. That really has the faithful on his blog shook up.
So let me see if I got this straight according to Igor. They can’t do the scheduled ICO for late Jan or early Feb due to the seizure of the computers and servers, but the ICO for Oct of this year will be no problem. Hilarious.
Well Igor, shall I advise the 2500 affiliates here in Ireland that the problem is” a visual bug in the back office”?
Who are you anyway Igor and what authority do you have to speak on behalf of OneCoin /Onelife? Are you an Officer or just someone who is fielded to hold the fence in the absence of Ignatova, Greenwood and all your Ambassadors?
WHAT IS YOUR ROLE APART FROM DELAYING THE INEVITABLE?
He considers himself an Onecoin “enthusiast”.
limericklady, you can go here: NO LINK:onecoin-debate.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=965&start=840 and ask him yourself.
Look forward to your posting the question there and reading his answer.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Unless Igor Krnic can source his claims he’s no better than the Gerlach Report.
Interesting bit of investigative journalism from the Moldovan press: rise.md/articol/decriptarea-operatiunii-onecoin/
We can all gues under who’s line these people are or were.
Moldova and Romania must be for sure under the clown gang Igor-Andrea-Iulian, although they are not mentioned. All know by now they ran away already when these accusations and court attacks started to happen and they knew they would have been implicated otherwise.
It would be great if in every country somebody could do the same investigative article with names and structure.
The Moldovan article is really good and naming names has caused people to get their money back before going to court but fortunately the criminal charges are still continuing.
I agree about drawing up the structures as this will form the basis of class actions -unfortunately we will have lost our money by then and the leaders will have laundered it all
In Germany, unfortunately, no class action lawsuits are possible. Therefore, scammers are rarely sued in Germany.
I believe class actions are possible in UK and Ireland but can someone advise what is the position in other European countries -particularly Scandinavia where OC started early and where Pehr Karlsson-who has previous convictions for embezzlement-was supposedly one of the early Pioneers.
i also remember Ed Ludbrooke appeared on stage in Stockholm peddling the Coin. I IMAGINE PEHR WOULD HAVE BEEN AT THAT AS WELL.
This video includes Ludbrooke before he was misled by Ruja and left -whatever that means: youtube.com/watch?v=KvDE7dgfqaw
At 1.04 there is Karlsson in the foyer of the Conference (it may be Gothenburg) . The tall guy with the beard and glasses is Hakon who allegedly had tens of thousands in his downlines and accompanied Karlsson when they visited Dublin.
Would be nice to see them investigated.
Anyone recognise him and the others as they look cosy together.
The man behind Pehr Karlsson is Kenny Nordlund. The man with the beard and glasses is Navid Tavakoli, behind him is Max(imilian) Nilsenius.
Are there many unhappy Scandinavians who feel they have been let down by Pehr and OneCoin and does anyone know whether the authorities have moved on the leaderS.
Have settlements been negotiated -as was the case when Pehr was ultimately convicted and when he had to appear in Court What is the situation with respect to class actions or significant individual cases.
And my apologies regarding Hakon i mistook him for Navid. What was /is Navid’s role in OC.
Navid and Max have both left Onecoin and moved on to crypto mining scams.
The woman there is Lotta Spjut and it looks like she has also left Onecoin. At least she’s not promoting it on FB like before.
I don’t know if this was in Stockholm or Gothenburg but at the Stockholm event the Swedish Enforcement Authority was waiting for Kenny Nordlund and took his Hublot watch off his wrist, as he has a 1 million Euro tax debt that he can’t pay.
Lotta Spjut went with Udo deppisch to bitclub along with a whole slew of others in his downline who formerly were with onecoin.
I left her a message on LinkedIn about 3 or 4 weeks ago but for some reason she didn’t care to respond. How unprofessional.
Sorry if I thought Navid was Hakon AS i recall they look similar.
Hakon was in Dublin with Pehr in early 2016 and in discussion he said he had 40 thousand in his downline.
The interesting thing is that they came over as serious minded –not at all like crazy Kari who also used to grace us with his visits -as his wide’s family live in Dublin.
This attracted one or two big players here who set up syndicates with serious investment–although Pehr appears to have left they say they are still in touch with him.
Silly how they are still convinced OC is genuine– I suppose the loss is too severe to acknowledge as they would consider them selves to be sharp business men. Any arrests or prosecutions in Scandinavia.
I think Udo Deppisch is now TCG The Crypto Group!?
The Crypto Group many familiar faces from onecoin. youtube.com/watch?v=xFIOF8boSHQ
It appears “The Crypto Group (TCG)” is now part of Bitclub Network mining, with all those same faces. Here’s a Meet-Up in London if Police want to attend or nab any of the former Onecoin scammers on the spot.
Seems serial scammer Joby Boughey (U-Fun/ Onecoin/ EthTrade/ ad nauseam), whom we haven’t heard from for awhile is also a part of TCG:
@Lynn ===post 111
I have been advised that much of the Safe Coins and OFC data was held on spreadsheets and the SQL database servers and has not been retrieved since the Sofia offices were seized by the Bulgarian and International Police Authorities some Six weeks ago .. Is this true and what are OC doing about it -other than not communicating.
So much for full back ups in the immutable Blockchain and mining farms in Hong Kong and Bulgaria.
Put us out of our misery Ruja and close this scam down.
Paywall article is claiming OneCoin bought off a criminal complainant in Belgium to the tune of 50,000 EUR.
Sudpresse are claiming to have a copy of the confidential agreement. If you click any of the article links you’re directed to a La Capitale paywall.
Small update on Frank Ricket’s alleged company, Onecoin’s payment processor, International Monetary Services, GmBH, Germany:
WOW THAILAND BLACK DIAMOND WOMAN FROM ONECOIN LEFT ONECOIN!
SHE JOIN TOGETHER NOW WITH UDO!
I think you mean IMS Marketing Services GmbH in Greven, Germany.
Frank Ricketts uses the same address for his scam portal onesitetalk.eu
Incidentally, the lawyer’s website has not been available for hours.
post 133 Jakob
WHAT IS HER NAME AND HOW MANY ESTIMATED IN HER DOWNLINE?
I think she is Natchaphan Sonsirinun.
Thanks Rutjake and would you know who her main upline was -Peter Shaw, Juha Parhiala and how the leader lines were linked? How did Udo fit in the tree/pyramid?
Natchaphan Sonsirinun BLACK DIMAOND FROM THAILAND LEFT! She join UDO in his new SCAM!
Now also other THAI Leaders from Onelife join her! i think onecoin Thailand is dead soon.
MIHAIL PETROVIC NOW IN THAILAND is Black diamond left alone and he is serbian.
Onecoin Ponzi is in shambles after the raid:
¤ weekly newsletter – CEASED
¤ “Split Barometer” – stuck at 99% for past month and a half (I wonder if police planned it this way to prove a point?)
¤ OFC’s – disappeared
¤ CoinSafe accounts which have matured- LOST
¤ Ignatova will be missing for nearly half a year, despite claiming in Macau that she would begin regular “State of the Nation” calls again – this didn’t even happen once
¤ No official reassurance or statements from company in over 6 weeks
¤ massive leadership exodus …etc.
The various Onecoin Victim Support Group channels originally created and strongly supported by former Onecoin “Double Ruby,” Jen McAdam (a victim herself, who invested £10K of her interpretive), now have nearly 1,000 members and are growing now at an expanding pace of 1-2 dozen DAILY.
Chief Excuse Officer, Igor Krnic, fielding increased sentiment of desperation. Loyal CULT followers continue to primarily blame “jealous and we’ll funded Bitcoiners” for ALL of their problems. SMH.
If it looks like a bomb, smells like a bomb… KABOOM!
SOrry folks, this ones dead. Hopefully the rest are too!
Black Diamond since November 2017? Only for a little bit more than three months? Really a great career! Here is the newsletter from November 2017:
Mansour Tawafi BLACK DIAMOND FROM UK KEEP SCAMMING KENYA AND REST OF AFRICA!!
DISGUSTING! Scamming African people in SOMALIA AND KENYA SCUMBAG!
Proof of connection between Ruza and bulgarian authorities:
She is in board of directors from 2009 in Bulgarian company CSIF, together with Cvetelina Borislavova, who live together from 1988 to 2009 with Boiko Borisov, actual Bulgarian prime minister.
She is president of CI Bank Bulgaria, which is sold in 2009 and manage with several companies in BG. Interesting on second picture how capital of CSIF is growing in 2015, 2016 to 170 mil. leva ( 85 mil euro ), in the best days of Onecoin scam.
Now Ruza is resolved from board.
@CZ – Ruja and Tsvetelina Borislovava are rumoured to be long time friends and business partners.
There has been longstanding chatter that the two own interests in a ski resort/ hotel property in eastern Bulgaria, but I’ve never been able to find definitive documentation proving this.
CSIF may also be the link to Crypto Real Investment Trust (CRIT) which allegedly holds property/ shares in the Macedonia Oil Fields project (“purchased with Onecoin’s” – LOL).
Timothy, can You explain more about this oil project in Macedonia-CRIT. There is no oil in Macedonia for sure.
I found the joke here:
My bad. Haste. Sorry.
Thanks for the heads up on that one, Melanie. Cheers. Not sure if autocorrect or tired. Lol 😉
I just came across the receipt for my 5 figure withdrawal in June, 2016, a very sad day, indeed.
Thanks for the enlightenment via these postings. My hope of getting some money back pending the ICO in October, 2018, had fallen from 20% to 1% in recent months, but now it’s down to 0%. Live and learn.
My upline had told me that all the negative comments back in 2016 were from Bitcoin enthusiasts being jealous. I knew nothing about crypto then, didn’t get that I was “investing” in something that didn’t even trade on an exchange, while all the other cryptos were trading publicly.
Wow. My bad for not understanding crypto before getting in OC.
I trusted my upline. Big mistake, not researching enough to understand the whole picture before withdrawing thousands upon thousands of dollars, which should have been going into Bitcoin under $1,000, Ethereum at $11, Litecoin at $3.50.
I was always seeing the Litecoin price at the bottom of my back office, not getting that that was the place to be, rather than dumping into scam OC.
Digging into and reading different news sources concerning the “buy silence” operation in Belgium, we can only recommend other victims to locally file a criminal complaint against their upline leaders (living in their country) and bot Onecoin and Onelife.
To me this seems the only way to recuperate money as the family in Belgium did to recover their 50.000 €.
First one that files a complaint and attacks probably has a big possibility to win especially in markets where they still promote that scam.
Don’t dream when you are living in a market they already have abandoned.
Markets such as The Netherlands, Romania, Italy, United Kingdom, Czech Republic, Austria in Europe are waiting for the first victims to step up and attack that clown gang that are now doing exactly the same in Dagcoin.
@ Wendy from NY – who was your upline? Have you approached them for a return of your money?
Just curious, is your upline promoting another crypto coin MLM now? As you say, lesson learned. But as the saying goes – don’t just get mad….get even!
It is stories like yours that I have to keep repeating myself.
I hope you understand now that you did not get into “crypto”. You got into MLMing and joined their merry gang of thieves. Think of MLMing as an act – like stealing.
Never trust “upline” regardless of the product they are pimping. Plug your ears and don’t listen about it. It’s insignificant.
The product is a crutch and ruse to mask acquiring money from downline. Nothing more.
@Wendy from NY
As i understand it OneCoin were not allowed to operate in the States so whoever sold you this may well have been breaking the law, You can therefore refer the matter to your authorities as criminal activity.
However, if you brought Recruits in under you you too are guilty of same which may influence your thinking!!
The good news is that you have a receipt(s) and if you bought 10000 Euros (presumably two tycoons)you will have paid for at least two sets of the same plagiarised educational material which obviously made no economic sense unless you were just sold an investment for the Coins.
Get an Attorney to write to your upline pointing these facts out together with claims of misrepresentation etc.
Get Oc to confirm they do not operate in the States or there will be historical material here when Ignatova said that was the case Good luck and whilst I understand live and learn it may be important that your upline doesn’t move on again to other victims with Dagcoin or some other scheme.
With most MLM schemes it seems we are the product that is just being recycled to other manipulative uplines who are serial liers and actually incompetent in cryptocurrency.
I was wondering how long it was going to take before members in OC started posting their frustration and anger on Igor’s blog and now it has begun.
Of course they were attacked as being haters by the usual suspects that kiss Igor’s assets, but this is not stopping their posting. In fact they are attacking those calling them haters.
The irony is they are raising the same questions most of us have been asking for a long time, and all we got was smoke and mirror answers just like they are getting, and it is not sitting well with them.
I think Igor is beside himself that he is losing control of his blog to “members of OC” and not us haters. Fun to watch.
That’s right. The previously announced launch of OneCoin in the US was canceled in October 2015:
Konstantin Ignatov talks about the OneCoin investigations in Bogota Colombia. Claims that OneCoin was asked over 1 million euros to avoid bad press and articles by “them”. Lol…
Yeah I’m sure bad press and negative articles could have been avoided when news about the raid was announced on Bulgarian prosecutor and ministry of Interior websites.
Starting from 36 minutes: (Ozedit: video unavailable as of March 24th, 2019)
@Wendy from NY
You can see from Melanie that they were never registered in USA.
So subject to your own involvement I would write to your upline and copy Compliance. Ask for your money back and if unsuccessful talk to the SEC. It may put someone behind bars
I see that Konstantin Ignatov was in in British Columbia suggesting that the authorities found nothing in Sofia despite seizing servers and over 6000 documents as well.
They have been quick in reviewing these alleged documents and apparently they saw the blockchain as well.
God knows where in Sofia but there is plenty of spare room in the offices or other proprieties which he and her sister have purchased.
Now described as the Global Leader of OneLife please post qualifications and background so we can share his pedigree -surely just not nepotism?
I loved the part where he held his thumb and finger apart about an inch and said that was 1,000 pages. Guess he forgot that a ream of paper is 250 pages. Oh well, it sounded good and looked impressive.
Of course OC is cooperating with the authorities. They didn’t have a choice. Gotta love the spin. He’s as good as Ruja at telling porkies.
It is a very sad story and this guy Konsti… he’s the only one I feel sorry for, honestly. 😉
What was so disingenuous about Konstantin’s speech in Bogota was his claim that they had seen the investigators report and out of over 3,000 pages they found nothing BS.
Any investigator who would release the results of their report to a company under investigation before the Prosecutor had read it and determined what charges would be brought or exonerated the company would be fired and have criminal charges filed against them immediately.
I can’t wait for Friday to come and nothing from the Prosecutor’s office on the investigation.
Another great piece of acting was the fact that he said they were asked a million bribe to keep negativity out of the press.
About 6 months ago they themselves were soliciting SEO and social media experts with big money upfront to help them keep the negative articles out of the net and many blogs or at least bury them deep on google’s search listing so nobody would find them.
why this Friday-are you aware of a report coming out/ I had thought the authorities had seized (and reviewed 6000 pages) and they found nothing. What did Konstantin actually say?
I would not anticipate anyone other than Germany and Bulgaria saying anything for about another month. Italy have not issued any full report etc in 6 months.
Even in Bulgaria I assume they recognise the involvement of Europol is somewhat chastening?
A comment from Facebook about Konsti Keks (his pseudonym on facebook) and his statements (lies) in Colombia. Here as a German translation from Google:
Source: NOLINK://facebook.com/search/top/?q=konstantin%20ignatov (Author: Thanh Hoang Nguyen)
Igor on his blog posted this on March 4, and I quote:
Thanks for the clarification. I am sure it will be posted on here if anything comes out -if it is like the Italian reveal we may have to wait a long time.
By the way I have worked out why there is the difference between your 3000 pages and Kontantin’s 6000 in the alleged report.
IT WAS THE SPLIT (THE IGOR BULLSHIT BAROMETER HAD HIT 100% )
OK I need to eat my words as Italian authorities appear to have allowed them-ONELIFE -to resume their activities in Italy.
La Dolce Vita
The confusion came from flatrate, but there were 6,000 pages of documents seized by the raid and the statement was that the investigators report was 3,000 pages long, which is utter BS. But this is OC were talking about.
Anybody have the Italian Administrative Supreme Court (Consiglio di Stato) link to the decision?
Is this the document they’re talking about?
^ Looks like it.
I was trying to translate from Italian with Google Translate, but the English version looks like it is still foreign language.
Does anyone able to translate that into plain English? Thank you in advance!
Practically, the case is still open, but the sanctions have been lifted as a precausion, because the Italian Antitrust Authority’s results are not clear.
So the case continues, but sanctions are lifted for now.
I’m already seeing OneCoin members celebrating that the Italy case is closed, which is not the case.
OneLife has appealed the 2017 AGCM decision and now the court in Rome has decided to return the case to the first instance court for re-evaluation.
Until then, the execution of AGCM’s decision to ban OneLife/OneCoin from operating in Italy and to pay a 2.5M Euro fine has been postponed.
Found this on a Bulgarian web-sight that I translated to English in Google Translate:
Well, the BIG announcement from Konstantin that was to happen today (according to Igor) didn’t happen. Can’t wait to hear the spin they put on this one.
Also Frank Ricketts is supposed to be making some big positive announcement next week -saw it briefly on ONECoin facebook.
Frank’s big announcement was an upgrade in their servers. They had to show something they were doing to keep the faithful believing.
The natives were getting restless with no activity of any kind visible. Especially since Konstantin’s big announcement of OC not being found guilty of anything didn’t happen.
Why do you need to upgrade servers when less people are stressing them?
OneCoin has been losing affiliates since they stopped withdrawals in early 2017.
Udo Carsten Deppisch is cheating here now:
They have to get ready for the billions of people who will rush to purchase OC in October (cough, cough).
When an article is posted that is negative about OC, the immediate defense is the popularity of the website. But when the news is positive about OC then this is what is claimed and I quote:
Here’s the link to the article he was referencing:
Just another fluff piece from OC that distorts what is really happening with the investigation. But of course is heralded as being the definitive conclusion of the investigation.
Someone posted that article a few days ago. General consensus is it was a press-release written by Konstantin, published on some Bulgarian website with zero credibility and no readers (traffic).
I did see an article promoting an Argentinian OneCoin event yesterday. That seemed to be a reputable news website so not sure who dropped the ball there.
“Flooded in the medias”?????? No real media is talking about onecoin!! And I would like to understand why.
OneCoin had some media coverage in its prime.
After it collapsed so did media coverage. Bulgarian authorities should have stepped in by now so from a MSM perspective there’s nothing much to report on.
We go “behind” the companies and are typically offer more in depth coverage of the MLM industry.
In the forum of Igor Krnic from Serbia, “onecoinpk” claimed, among other things:
That was in March 2018. What does “onecoinpk” say about OneCoin today? Nothing! The domain onecoinpk.com can be bought at godaddy.com!
These contact details were given on the Pakistani website:
“Onecoinpk” also has a face and proudly calls himself on YouTube:
His YouTube account Pakistan Insight still contains many videos for the OneCoin scam.